Win10

It's alright.

>>60014734
1337 h4x0r3z wh0 d0n'7 kn0w h0w 70 d154873 upd4735 wh173 w4n71ng t0?

I don't know, anon. Maybe Home version is actually shitty, but I love my Pro/Insider. I've shilled out my money for it after using it for over a year of "Activate your Windows, pls"

>>60014768
>not using KMSpico or Daz-loader
>calling 'insider' a good update

are you joking please

Dell laptop,

Just upgrade to win 10 creator,

graphic driver broke.
desktop icon auto-arrange broke, everytime i press F5 icon jump around like frogs.
muh windows defender security center warning about smartscreen filter that can't be turned off.

everything become slower and stutter

Why is it so sh!t? Just rollback to windows 8.1 and everything is much better now.

>>60014734
works fine on my machine (つ౪)つ━ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ

>>60014734
>more botnet
>more pajeet
>Microsoft fired all the testers
>more ads
>more tracking
>Something happened
>active hours
>Windows Update is even more shit if that is possible

>>60014734
i don't know what you guys are doing but
>win10pro
>x220
>smooth
>no ads

works fine for me except for the annoying bloat, that's why I'm now on 2016 LTSB. so clean.

>>60014781
>no calling "Insider" a good update
Let's see. My machine boots from hibernation to completely resuming the work in less than 20 seconds, including the time required to log in via fingerprint scan. Booting from the regular shut-down is even faster.
WSL has more goodness implemented and currently allows me to participate in the development of our current Ruby on Rails project with zero changes to the working copy despite other team members using Macs. Not to mention, I had way less problems setting the environment up and I still get a much faster-performing machine.
And despite being "unstable" it's yet to break on me - I'm using it for over 2 months atm.

I see zero reasons not to call Insider a good update.

>>60014879
>fingerprint scan
how do you manage the paranoia?

>>60014892
>how do you manage the paranoia?
It's a function my laptop has. Gotta use the function.

When it doesn't stutter, it's much faster than typing in the password. Gotta have a password, as I use it as both my personal and working PC.

>>60014734
more than 30 kinds of telemetry. They even collect the brand of your printer and joystick

>>60014879
>Basic
>Still has a long list of (((diagnostic))) data
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/itpro/windows/configure/windows-diagnostic-data

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>>60014734
>What went so fucking wrong?
It doesn't have to be terrible. I just saw a guide posted yesterday. https://lainchan.jp/tech/res/28.html#50

>>60014811

>Why is it so sh!t?
>sh!t

Jesus Christ. Where do you people come from?

It's still NT

>>60015130
Nigga, I'm using Insider. It has "Full" telemetry by default - otherwise, there's no point in Microsoft even having people to run it.
Do I look like I have a problem with telemetry? I've been working for Russian mobile and Internet service provider. I believe I know a tad bit more about "telemetry" than you do.

they asked for money, again. everyone will bitch every time a new windows comes out, unless they release it for free.

>>60014734
Honestly I think it's because Bill Gates stepped down. Think about it: the last thing he had anything to do with was Vista. 7 was more or less Vista 2 Electric Boogaloo. Everything since 7 has been fucked in some way or another.

And on that topic, while I'm not his biggest fan, I think we all can see that Apple has gone downhill since Steve Jobs died. Face it: we need visionaries.

>>60015807
>Face it: we need visionaries.
It's not even that. What we need, is to abandon this nonsense of "converging" desktop and mobile operating systems. It's fucking retarded. Mobile devices are an entirely different experience due to the nature of the hardware involved. They lack processing power as well. We get a half-assed product as a result. The user gains nothing, the developers win by covering two products at the same time. It's lazy, and disgusting. Also,don't even get me started on this bullshit of collecting user data under the guise of "improving the user experience".

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>>60014734

>>60016002
the obsession with iphones in the corporate world is ridiculous, it results in shit like that "internet of things" juicer

>>60016499
Yeah. How many years have desktop computers been commonly available? Why is it that we didn't have all of these retarded "Thingz" being controlled from desktop computers? I'll tell you why. In the heyday of PC's, the tech world wasn't flooded with mongoloids. People were responsible and practical. These days, we have people throwing money at doing insecure things on insecure as fuck devices, that have zero business being attached to the internet. Somehow this is being memed as progress, though. I've lost all hope for humanity.

>>60014734
The OS itself is great. For real, Windows 10 is the Windows it should've been. BUT: the telemetry. Mircosoft went fucking nuts with telemetry.

Why does Microsoft think Win 10 would be more secure when earlier versions of Windows would run as secure as 10 when they HADN'T telemetry?

>>60018970
>Windows would run as secure as 10
I ain't saying telemetry has anything to do with it, as I have no idea even if it does, but previous versions of Windows were full of critical vulnerabilities and were nowhere as safe as Win10. I guess, Win7 with all of the updates might be as safe as 10, but prior to that, they were vulnerable.
Like, nowadays almost the only way to get your PC infected is to launch a virus yourself and give it permissions to run. If an actual vulnerability is found, it's made known and patched away almost immediately.
On 98. XP and early 7, you could've easily gotten your PC infected by plugging in a USB, reading a CD, opening a web page or fucking connecting to a local network. For current Win10 you don't even need a dedicated antivirus. And the integrated firewall actually works.

>>60019237
>tfw autorun
>tfw walking around with a modified usb stick and infecting public computers by simply plugging it in for a few seconds

>>60019237
Sorry, I should've said > Win 7. I am using 8.1 without a goddamn antivirus because antivirus is only for people which don't use their brain.

>>60014734
PC was acting slow, so decided to give it a refresh/restart/whatever it's called.
shit took fucking ages and uninstalled my apps, but threw bloatware in my start menu.
Fucker even tried installing the facebook app. To what end I have no idea.
Instead of deleting my old shit, it threw them into an old windows version folder for god knows what reason. So yea, I;m pissed as fuck. Gonna format the hdd and clean install that shit from a dvd drive, because fuck microsoft for their own reset tool not working as advertised.

>>60022651
>it did exactly what it's supposed to but that's not what i expected so i'm mad

>>60015807
This. Every person after Bill Gates has been such a massive disappointment.

I extremely miss 1990s Cutthroat CEO Bill Gates.

He had ambition and a lot of it.

Now, Microsoft lacks fucking balls.

>>60014734
like everything else, normies

>>60019335
>>60020222
Windows defender is pretty good, though.

No popups and pretty light.

I don't think antivirus companies will have a stable future.

>>60018970
Its not about your security, its about Microsoft's financial security.
The writing is on the wall that Microsoft's old business model of selling Windows and Office to OEMs isn't going to work much longer.
Free operating systems are too capable and there aren't really any killer features now that Microsoft could introduce that would make it worth it to OEMs to pay a premium.
Microsoft needs to make money off of Windows at $0, and that means they need telemetry, advertising, and people buying their software from the Windows Store.

>>60014734
Nothing, it's fine

>>60018970
It's not great. It's a buggy piece of shit, and sometimes I wonder if it's not intentionally so.

>>60022862
>and people renting their software from the Windows Store.
Fixed.

>>60022777
It asked me multiple times if I'm fine with it deleting them. After that I think I am entitled to be slightly annoyed that it decides to keep them.

>>60022862
>Free operating systems are too capable
Such as? Android? Puh-lease!
OSX isn't free either, you just don't pay for it since it's subsidized by the hardware sales plus that's all you're gonna use it on anyway.
Linux? Let's not even go there. Although from what I hear, Linux is going to tackle the desktop and laptop market _THIS YEAR FOR SURE_ .. right...

>>60024063
Unless you select the option that you're giving the pc away you will be given a chance to revert to your previous installation.
The windows.old folder is automatically deleted after a month. Windows will also offer to delete it if you're running low on space.

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>ads
>More ads coming soon
>forcing the free upgrade
>worse performance on older hardware
>UWP
>Privacy, or more like the lack of it

works on my machine desu

>>60014734
Apathy.

>>60024146
been using it since it came out, gave it 3 refreshes and a reinstall since. Had to manually delete windows.old twice, figured I won't take chances - especially since I backed up everything already so there is literally no reason to keep that around.
And there was no option that I was giving the PC away, which is kinda weird, but whatever.
Anyhow, it works, just waiting to pull down my files from the cloud and I'll be all set.

I only use it, because there is some software for university, wich does not run on linux (ArcGis).

>>60014768
You do realize Microsoft phones home PNG screenshots of your desktop every few seconds right? You're sharing your porn with some pajeet

what's the deal?

>>60014734
The attitude and culture of the company who made the product. Think of it like vampiric corruption in Warhammer.

>>60024921
And it uses state of the art compression that makes it possible to store two such screenshots in only 6KB.

>>60014734
Micro$oft. The pajeet in charge finally realized that M$'s customers are governments and some large companies, not end users. To maximize profit, he exploited that fact, making wangblows 10 the most user-hostile operating system ever made in the history of computeres.

>>60015807
I remember if you go back and watch Steve Jobs stuff he is really passionate about the product. If you look at him explaining the iPad and iPhone in reveal you can see he cares a lot about it. He really thinks this is a good thing. He had an idea of how we would use our products. Like the iPad could sit in the living room and the family could pick it up and do stuff on it.

When I see Tim Cook reveal his Apple Watch it's just like. Look we have another product. See, we're still innovative guys! Steve Jobs hated charging shit apparantly so I doubt he would remove the headphone jack for wireless or release the Apple Watch at all. There's no sense of how it fits into our lives.

The iPhone 8 reveal spent so much time just on the black color. They advertise it like a fashion product now. I never remember that shit with Jobs either, but maybe I'm just not remembering..

>>60024113
>Such as?
The business model of selling operating system software is not going to survive the advent of mainstream sub $100 computers, and there's no really compelling reason why the majority of users need to spend more.

>Android? Puh-lease!
>Linux?
Deny it all you want, Android/Linux is now on the majority of computing devices in the world and desktop and mobile Linux based operating systems continue to move closer together. ChromeOS running Android applications on laptop hardware thanks in part to Wayland and Mesa is a glimpse of the future, as is the proliferation of cheap single board ARM computers.

Unless Microsoft manages to figure out how to make money off of a $0 version of Windows without losing their user base and OEMs in the process their power over OEMs and as an extension over the average desktop user will not survive.

>>60025230
Microsoft hasn't made money on windows for a long time. They make a shitload of money for governments and some large companies (such as macy's and adobe).
Overall, their current strategy is cloud-first, ai-first as a business (which really means, put everything in the cloud and hope people are dumb enough to fall for it and slap a program with the word AI in the title even though it's literally just a bunch of regex because AI is too haaaaard). As such, they believe that mobile as an end-user platform is a significantly higher-priority target than other devices.

>>60014734
being free

It is literally spyware, adware, and a botnet that you have to pay for.

>>60025301
>Microsoft hasn't made money on Windows
>Literally every non-apple Laptop or prebuilt system comes with a Windows licence which isn't free
>Being this retardedly brainwashed by anti-microsoft /g/
>Literally every new computer purchased that isn't from apple nets them $200 more or less pure profit.
>One of the most profitable companies in the world isn't making money from their main product
You can't make this shit up. This is what Linux Neckbeards actually believe.

>>60022842
>I don't think antivirus companies will have a stable future.
They really won't.
Remember what happened to paid firewalls after windows starting including a firewall for free?

>>60014879
I cold boot my thinkpad from off into windows 7 in 14 seconds using a fingerprint reader

>>60025462
The same shit that google maps did to GPS companies.

>>60025435
We're talking about Windows 10, not Android.

Huge company where decisions are made by higher-ups that don't understand changing technology

Still think it's a good idea to force your users to restart their computer every five minutes every time you install updates, install some program, or change a fucking setting

Got rid of white computer scientists who understood the source code and replaced them with pajeet code monkeys who have no idea what they're working with

tried to use the exact same windows 8.1 operating system base but just copy-pasted a million .dlls on top of it to make a "new" convoluted mess of an operating system

Microsoft will be dethroned before most of you even have kids

>>60025529
So am I.

>>60025457
I'm totally talking out of my ass but I thought most OEM sales netted them around $30?

They really are pursuing cloud first and the client / server side of things won't be the focus.

>>60025533
>Microsoft will be dethroned before most of you even have kids

Boiling frogs
People are apathetic. People like video games
Microsoft is going to just keep getting bigger

>>60025301
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/01/microsofts-second-quarter-shows-a-surprise-uptick-in-windows-revenue/

>Microsoft hasn't made money on Windows for a long time


>Windows 10 is now active on more than 400 million devices around the world and over 197 billion hours of usage. This is the fastest adoption rate of any prior Windows release.

>>60025549
>$30 for an oem licence
Kek no, literal computer stores sell Windows OEM editions for system builders and they're all around $150-200. Unless you're literally selling millions of copies you'd never get that low a price from them.

>>60025570
Nope, even normies hate Windows 10

My money is on Google replacing them

>>60025596
>normies hat Windows 10

see

>>60025577

>>60025457
I am a microsoft employee. You are a neet. Do the math.
>>60025577
$0 times 400m sure is a lot of money. Guess I am BTFO now.
Nu/g/ really is a strange place.

>>60025577
>This is the fastest adoption rate of any prior Windows release.

They don't tell you how that is largely due to them tricking people into installing it after people declined it, even for free, or how many people later uninstalled it.

>>60025596
Google is an Ad company, not a software company. It's literally worse than Microsoft in terms of consumer outcomes. Their OS is literally designed to mine data to sell to their customers.

>>60025618
>Microsoft Employee
Microsoft is a publicly traded company which releases financial reports to the public. What you think you 'know' is available to the public.

>They gave it away for free for 1 year!
You do know that it's been over a year since Microsoft has given away the 'free' upgrades shit right?
You do know that every single new computer is netting them about $100 pure profit in licensing fees right?

>>60025621
>Aww they tricked people!
Yeah and Google tricks people into thinking their services are free while they datamine the shit out of you and sell it to Ad companies.

>>60025671
And? Google being cunts doesn't make it okay fr M$ to be cunts too.

>>60014734
You tell me.

>>60025686
Yes, it's called competition. If you don't like it don't use Google or Microsoft software.
Buy Apple and get jewed by them instead.
>Bawwwwww companies exist to exploit their customers!

>>60025671
>What you think you 'know'
Pretty sure microsoft's business strategy is public knowledge. The execution is not. Keep backpedaling while striking at those mean strawmen of yours though. I'm sure you'll hit something solid one of these days.
>You do know that every single new computer is netting them about $100 pure profit in licensing fees right?
My sides.
>You do know that it's been over a year since Microsoft has given away the 'free' upgrades shit right?
My fucking sides.

We recently switched from Windows 7 to Windows 10 (LTSB) at work.
People complain about it constantly.

>>60025700
Or I could just Linux or an older version of WIndows.

>>60025612
This>>60025714
Is what I mean by normies hate it. Not business execs or managers paying for the software, just normal people who actually have to work with it.

>>60025577
>literal computer stores sell Windows OEM editions for system builders and they're all around $150-200

Dell is not buying Windows for the same price as some random joe buying it from the store.

>>60025706
>backpedalling while striking at those mean strawmen
You keep up those personal attacks. Lying to the public about financial data is an indictable offense.

>Microsoft's business strategy is public knowledge
No it isn't, The only thing that's public knowledge is their financial data. Their strategy is 'released' to the public and shareholders. They can switch that anytime without notifying anyone.

>Or I could just Linux or an older version of Windows
Yeah, you're really the market they're interested in m8. You and 0.001% of the market that actually buys software.

>Complain
Yeah, like they have an alternative. People complain about everything. They'll literally complain about free shit if you give it to them.
Just look at every camwhore thread on 4chan.

>>60025742
>Dell is not buying windows for the same price
Yeah but you aren't dell are you?
There might be a bulk discount, but literally nowhere near the $30 per license you are suggesting.

>>60025761
Your tears are delicious. What's more, you have impressive imagination. What reality will you imagine next? What strawman will you build? What lack of argument will you have? I just can't wait for your next post.

>>60025714
When my office updated from XP to 7 people complained constantly too, they do for any change.

>>60025781
>Tears are delicious
>Microsoft is dying
>Post evidence that you're just a fucking anti-shill and their financial data says otherwise
>B...b....b..but I work for Microsoft! I clean their offices!

Eat shit pajeet.

>>60024991
It's possible anon, and you know it.

>>60025778
Actually I looked and was pretty close.

>Microsoft has released licensing rates for OEM Windows 8, including US$60-80 for Windows 8, US$80-100 for Windows 8 Pro (with Office) and US$50-65 for Windows RT (with Office), according to Taiwan-based notebook supply chain makers.

>>60025803
I see that you are a deeply troubled individual, having to disassociate with reality so hard and yet claim your imagination is evidence of anything. It's OK, though, no matter how pathetic you are, your tears are still just as delicious as anyone else's!.

>>60025577
>Kek no, literal computer stores sell Windows OEM editions for system builders and they're all around $150-200. Unless you're literally selling millions of copies you'd never get that low a price from them.

ive bought windows licenses wholesale at $89.99 from microsoft. and it was for only 200 licenses. if youre a huge company youre going to pay a shit ton less.

>>60025783
They aren't complaining about change, they're complaining about dysfunction.

The biggest complaints I here are:
Outlook and Office go unresponsive constantly, and outright crash several times a day.
Windows will randomly spike in resource usage to the extent it prevents users from doing anything else (network, disk, and memory at 100%).
It takes longer to log in, start up, and log out.

>windows 8
Outdated numbers, that was a decade ago. easily $100-120 now with inflation.
>Notebook supply chain makers

>$90 for 200 licenses
Even if you did, it's never ever going to $30 like the retard suggested.
And even then you'd literally have to buy hundreds of thousands if not millions of licenses.

>>60025868
>The biggest complaints I GET here are

I accidentally a word.

>>60025868
Nah they're complaining about change.
90% of the computer using public can't take it when you rearrange the icons on their desktop.

>>60025853
More ad hominem posting without any proof your your assertions

Thanks Pajeet. Now go clean the Microsoft toilets of the poo that they can't put into the loo.

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>>60025822
Here's a screenshot for you. It's a fresh install. Try cramming it down to 6KB. I even made it easier by covering half the screen with Explorer.
There's 17849 unique colors in this screenshot. Good luck.

>>60025876
>Even if you did, it's never ever going to $30 like the retard suggested.
>And even then you'd literally have to buy hundreds of thousands if not millions of licenses.

companies like asus, acer, hp, dell, alienware etc etc put windows on their machines and pay pennies on the dollar because they buy their licenses wholesale. Youre crazy if you think they would pay retail.

>>60025868
>Outlook and Office go unresponsive constantly, and outright crash several times a day.
>Windows will randomly spike in resource usage to the extent it prevents users from doing anything else (network, disk, and memory at 100%).
>It takes longer to log in, start up, and log out.

This sounds like more like modern Windows on old hardware. Did the hardware get updated as well and include SSDs?
We've found the Windows experience to be pretty shit without it installed to an SSD, whether that be Windows 7 (patched) or newer.

>>60025898
>>60025853
You are both retarded.

>>60025868
In our office, skype video/audio freeze, audio randomly muted (but restart the program and it magically works, so it's not settings or hardware), skype full crash, teams crash/full crash and constant restarts. Edge constantly crashes with more than 10 pdfs open. Also coming back to work to a freshly restarted windows so you get to reopen everything again thanks to forced updates. Finally, at least when connected to displayport, computer going to sleep means the window layout gets beyond fucked, with some cases (like edge) where the actual program's inner layout breaks and makes the program unusable until restarted. Oh, and severe dpi scaling issues in multi-monitor setups fucking up several programs to the point of unusability.

>>60025928
>pay pennies on the dollar
There's a wholesale discount, but lets not pretend it's 1/10 of the retail price m8.

>>60025905
>1366x768
C U C K
U
C
K

>>60025932
Yum yum, delicious tears.

>>60025905
>use jpg
>subsample randomly to 50% size
gg

In my case, Windows doesn't like to open the downloads folder, even with an ssd hates it

>>60025966
But the other anon explicitly state png, not jpg.

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>>60025951
What's the problem?

>>60025966
I guess you're not familiar with the screenshot meme.
There's a webm that shows some retard capturing traffic on Windows 10 and dumping a 6KB tcp stream.
He then runs a "RSA_Decryptor.exe" with that file as an argument and it produces two different fullscreen png screenshots.

>>60025984

Turn the jpg back into a png

Bonus: after quantization.
Also note that colors are far from needed for this purpose anyway. You want text and you want edges.

>>60025940
So your company can pay for high-end monitors but are unable to pay for the staff and tools to control updates?

>>60026023
Yeah, I know about that and I know it's retarded (anyway as far as I know M$ doesn't actually collect any audiovisual data, only audiovisual metadata and text data).

>>60026024
So Microsoft is taking a screenshot of a PC in jpg only to turn it into png before uploading because of reasons?

>>60026038
The updates are being controlled and that is the result. We also lose VPN access (and thus all our work stuff) if we prevent updates for too long (including but not limited to by restricting device internet access).

>>60026062
Sure, why not, micropajeets aren't exactly known for their intelligence.

>>60026074
So all you have is conjecture then?

>>60014768
>you took time to write that

>>60026109
All I have is an answer to the question you asked.

Sigh, where to begin?
1. The ugly "let's have both touch & regular traditional desktops" deal.
2. Redesigned UI (kinda goes along with 1.) so that it takes 3- 5 more steps to do certain things than it did in Win 7. Some things get buried so deep or moved from where they were in Win 7 that it's fucking easier to use the damn search box in order to find them. Which is a shame btw.
3. The whole redone web enabled search assistant aka Cortiana. Do you really want nearly every thing you do broadcast over the net. If you use the new assistant kiss your privacy goodbye.
4. Windows Store (Shit) Again the whole let's combine both phone/touch and traditional desktop deal this time with ads thrown in for good measure.
5. Start menu - yeah so they listened and brought it back after they killed it in 8/8.1 but they also kept it so that it brings up fucking spam (news/ads,etc) everytime you launch it. You can disable the spam but its something that never should have been put in place to start with.
6. More Flash, "oh geez look at the pretty desktop thing" Do you really need a fashy desktop to read e-mail or surf the net? I highly doubt it.

7. More bloat, the install setup actually compresses the windows files to save disk space (a first for windows btw) So that right there should tell you that the designers had little or no clue as to how to what they were doing if they had to resort to compression in order to conserve drive space. (Yeah drives are cheap but still)

8. Lets see, what does Ten have over 7 again, other than more "Flash" and oh yes DX 12? Nothing, unless you want to count storage spaces (which is only good thing about Ten)

9. But new processors won't work on win 7. wrong they'll work just MS won't support them, Win 7 will be supported till 2020. Even after that date Anitvirus/internet Browers will still be compatible with win 7. Look at XP, Antivirus and Browsers still work fine on it and xp's been "dead" since 2014.

>>60025488
Glad for you, anon. My 7 never managed to boot even half as fast. And I have never seen it do so even after a clean install.
Well, that's unless you aren't counting the time it takes for BIOS to load.

Nothing, everything works except ICC profiles.

>>60026347
>More Flash
7 definitely has more "flash" with all the glass shit.

>what does Ten have over 7 again
WSL is pretty nice desu

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>>60014734
pretty much all of it. firing their qa department, dumping more spaghetti code onto the already bloated OS, the UI, the telemetry, the updates.

I mean wtf is pic related?

This is a clean install of windows 10 from like 3 days ago. Why is all this trash on my start menu? Why is everything

padding: 15px !important

? Why does this context sub-menu exist when it takes up just as much space as its parent? Who thought any of this was a good idea?

>>60026786
LTSB is slightly less shit in that:
- Cortana is removed
- App Store is removed
- no shit like Candy Crush or Minecraft installing without your permission
- no ads
- classic calculator, instead of metro

>>60026823
yea this is ultimately what i'll end up doing. LTSB for games and linux for everything else.

I should note, that picture is the """Professional""" version of windows. Professional my ass.

>>60026347
>1. The ugly "let's have both touch & regular traditional desktops" deal.
Which you have to enable manually to see.
>2. Redesigned UI (kinda goes along with 1.) so that it takes 3- 5 more steps to do certain things than it did in Win 7
It doesn't take more steps. Not to mention, Win7 was the actual Windows to implement extra steps on its options.
>use the damn search box
A lot of people started doing that all the way back on Win7, because if you know what you're doing - it's much faster.
>3. The whole redone web enabled search assistant aka Cortiana
Which has to be enabled manually
>every thing you do broadcast over the net
Give me an actual source for this meme
>so that it brings up fucking spam
It only has suggestions and the store tile in it. Two clicks to remove forever.
>oh geez look at the pretty desktop thing
You had never used Win10, hadn't you?
>More bloat
Another buzzword. Care to specify "the bloat" and especially how's there "more" of it?
>8. Lets see, what does Ten have over 7 again
It's better optimized, can make use of Quick Boot in modern UEFI, has much better universal driver support, has better tools out of the box, has great backward compatibility, has a marginally faster search.
Not to mention it has access to WSL which is fucking amazing.

>>60026867
Windows 7 still works fine.

>>60014734
Windows 10 is perfectly fine as long as you're on LTSB.

>>60014734
Holy shit, I installed that thing with a clean iso for my friend yesterday and it's crashing like hell, and his PC is very capable of running it.

How can I activate the Pro version? I'm still running the "limited" Pro (it doesn't allow cosmetic changes) since I don't have a product key.

>>60026910
this is another strong possibility assuming I can still find a way to get updates for it despite microsoft's best efforts.

I really don't want to give m$ the satisfaction of me switching to 10 considering all the bullshit they're pulling.

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>>60026867
This is also professional, to be fair. That said it's excessively difficult to fix the tiles and remove all the random unnecessary bullshit included in Win10.

>>60026966
KMSpico

>>60026984
How can I do it? And how can I remove those "apps" advertisements of the Start menu?

>>60026990
I tried the Microsoft tools or something like that back in the day but Windows Defender was blocking it. Will this really work?

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>>60026984
yea I get that you can "fix" it

>That said it's excessively difficult to fix the tiles and remove all the random unnecessary bullshit included in Win10.

this is the problem for me. I shouldn't have to do any of this bullshit in the pro version.

>>60027026
Just disable Windows Defender and it should work just fine.
Make sure to use AutoKMS so you don't have to keep renewing it manually.

>>60026984
>it's excessively difficult to fix the tiles
Right-click > Unpin is "excessively difficult"?
>remove all the random unnecessary bullshit included in Win10
Depends on what are you consider to be "unnecessary". Removing pre-installed apps is as easy as it gets. Removing apps that Windows considers to be mandatory - Store, for example - will require you to use PowerShell.
I see no reason to explicitly cut the functionality of the OS just to save ~50MB.

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>>60027070
>Depends on what are you consider to be "unnecessary".
you underestimate my power

>>60027127
So, you're installing a bunch of bloat to get rid of bloat. Got it.

What's your business with Win10 Calc though? It's good.

>>60027054
How? Through gpedit?

>>60027196
That's one way to do it, yeah.

>>60027196
I believe, through the fucking settings. Right click shit anon, you aren't using mac.

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>>60027183
I'm installing bloat to monitor telemetry. Winaero gets uninstalled as soon as I'm done, working on scripts to replace it still. The only other "bloat" is classic shell, which is needed if you want to search for .exe files in the start menu and fully disable cortana.


Win10 calc doesn't even open after my de-bloat scripts run. (nor do any metro style apps). It is otherwise functionally identical to the win 7 calculator.

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>>60027237

>>60027196
if you want it off for good, yes. It's under computer config / admin templates / windows components / windows defender / turn windows defender off

the UI setting reverts after a while because fuck you I guess

>>60027237
Windows 10 is restricted as a Mac from what I've experienced. But thanks God you still can do advanced things if you know it's quirks

>>60027244
>to monitor telemetry
You are an autist if you're using Fiddler to monitor telemetry. I really hope you are using it for work.
>my de-bloat scripts run
>my
Anon, you have a settings master folder on that screenshot named precisely "GodMode". All of these are random shit you've found while browsing The Internet and you have no idea what a half of these do and how 100% of these work.
>Win10 calc doesn't even open
I won't be surprised if you've managed to fuck up UWP host in your OS.

>>60027394
I don't run/install everything in this folder, it's just all the shit I've compiled along the way. I install Glasswire to monitor network traffic differences between win 7 and win 10 (trying to get 10 to 7 baselines). Classic shell and winaero for the reasons I already mentioned. Then my custom scripts in the scripts folder, which mostly deal with deleting telemetry services and tasks, killing cortana, removing all the UWP bloat, the update full screen overlay, and applying my other default settings.

>I won't be surprised if you've managed to fuck up UWP host in your OS.
The UWP breakage is due to my UAC settings, which are not compatible with UWP. This isn't a problem because I never intend to open a UWP app anyway.

>>60014734
>Windows 7
good
>Windows 8
bad
>MS tries to be cute and skip 9
>Windows 10
bad
maybe math programs for pajeets are not doing so well.

>>60022777
>2 sets of dubs and a set of trips

double triple checked

>>60027554
Oh well, more power to you, anon. I hope you'll achieve whatever result you're trying to achieve without breaking the OS down to the level which will make you question why you are using it in the first place.
I do think you should get a better hobby for your excessive free time, though.
>The UWP breakage is due to my UAC settings, which are not compatible with UWP.
That makes no sense, as the only way I can see UWP conflicting with UAC settings would be when you're trying to give UWP access to everything which it shouldn't have and which you shouldn't try to give. It sandboxes everything - how can it be affected by UAC settings?

>>60014734
Windows 10 Enterprise N LTSB is the successor to WIndows 7. Install it.

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>>60027937
>without breaking the OS down to the level which will make you question why you are using it in the first place.
I'm way past this point anon

> you're trying to give UWP access to everything
yes, I'm using the windows 7 style "UAC off", which runs everything with elevated privileges and is the reason UWP is broken.

>>60028029

The settings were changed because they want more users to configure their pc's, pre windows 10 versions somehow were not that friendly. Honestly I can't understand how but people literally didn't understand the control panel options.

>>60028029
Fuck that. Do this, make a new folder, press F2 and copypaste this:
GodMode.{ED7BA470-8E54-465E-825C-99712043E01C}

>>60028444
In case you haven't noticed, that's just one screenshot. There are two control panels with completely different UIs Windows 10.

Use the search feature and type settings, you get the right one, type control panel you get the left.

>>60028029
One for power users
One for the general consumer

>>60028541
>power users
See this: >>60028513
That default shit is nowhere near good enough.

>>60014734
inserting fucking ads into an operating system
forced updates
turning operating system into spyware

>>60026074
how about backing up your initial claim?

>not using Enterprise
You dont know what youre missing
>inb4 botnet=botnet
Using free OS still makes you part of the botnet if youve got propriety hardware

July 2015 - Horrible launch state, gayming benchmarks show worse performance than Windows 7, windows update insists on installing all your drivers for you even if they break your system. Unflexible update system. Minor app incompatibility.

April 2017 - It's decent now.

>>60022823
This is what happens when you hire pajeet.

Americans are generally visionaries; we have imagination.

When I teach engineering classes at a fairly rich high school full of indians and Asians, and let me tell you...Indians and Asian are definitely hard workers, but they only work to please. They don't have the skill set to imagine, or push boundaries. These students only care about trophies and certificates...Anything that makes them look good on paper but haver zero depth.

Americans on the other hand, push boundaries and take risks to push the envelope and try something new. More however are losing this due to standardized testing.

WSL should've caused a /thread from the start. It's the reason I ditched macOS and moved back to windows. I'm a game dev so Linux is kind of out.

Hey /g/ is there a guide to make win10 okay and less shit, i am going to get a laptop but in local market there are a lot of kabylakes and laptops with skylake and below are kinda uncommon, i will try my best to find them but still having a second option and backup plan is good,
Please help me and post a guide

>>60014734
>Be win8
>Ditch desktop for colorful blocks
>Realize entire customer base wants the desktop
>Fuck it, include desktop as legacy app
>Whole operating system based on tablet apps
>App store is a literal ghost town
>Be win10
>Fuck it, back to desktop
>But let's redesign it for tablet wielding man children
>And they're idiots so we'll throw some ads in the desktop and file explorer and they won't realize they're ads
>Realize you can't go anywhere from here without an app store
>Fucking fuck it let's announce win10 is the last windows so developers think we have a stable interface design and will create apps thinking they won't break with future updates

>>60014734
everything

>>60014878
>works fine for me except for the annoying bloat, that's why I'm now on 2016 LTSB. so clean.

There has been a lot of shilling here for 2016 LTSB, lately. Heard it comes without ads and cortana, is that true? Also, how much of the telemetry was removed compared to regular Botnet 10?

I am OK with Windows tracking me if it means I get a better product.

If I wasn't ok with it, I wouldn't use Windows.

However why people use it and complain about it is beyond me. Put your money where your mouth is or shut up

>>60030575
Sure, there are so many alternatives of a widely supported OS that has a tons of preexisting programs for it that span over a decade.

>>60027012
Different anon but it's literally just right click -> unpin from menu.

Also you have to turn off the suggestion from Privacy or use that spybot anti-beacon to just shut it all down.

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>>60030575
I would be okay with them tracking me and ads if I'd be using a free version, or a home/basic/community Windows.
But forcing people to watch ads and spying on their every move in fucking Pro version, when they paid for it... fucking hell, jews won


I would gladly pay for that famous LGBT-boynet free version if it were available for a normal customer.

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>>60032549
LTSB is crap as well.

>>60029079
I made no initial claim, unlike you. Which is why I have answered your question and you've been attacking me since then, due to my answer being unassailable.

>the best OS
>what went so wrong

>172 replies

/g/ - Cancerous shithole