>he uses windows in 2017

>>60010701
public enemy number 1

>>60010701
>he's actually able to use his computer in 2017

Everyone should use Linux like me XD. Down with corporations lol!

>>60011238
Butthurt Microdick faggot.

>he doesnt use proprietary software but uses proprietary hardware
software backdoor=hardware backdoor
Not even a backdoor, more like the front door

>he uses linux for the sole purpose of impressing 16 year olds on 4chan's technology board

>>60011253
>Not even a backdoor, more like the front door
heh, that made me giggle

Honestly, there's really no reason to use Windows 90% of the time.

I have a windows box that I use purely for some games. It's hooked up to my TV, has no microphone/camera, isn't used to browse the web, etc. No real data can be collected from it other than what games I play and when. All my other computers are either Linux or Macs (inb4 retards that don't know how great bioinformatics tools on OSX are accuse me of being a fag).

If you use a Windows machine as your main rig you are basically saying "Pls spy on me gubberment.".

Cucks.

>>60011250
Assblasted lincuck.

>>60011310
Now try not to get too fired up winkid, windows will force you to restart any minute now.

>>60011332
Try not to lose your shit lincuck, Linux will not run professional applications.

>>60011372
And what "professional applications" will the average joe need?

>>60011372
skyrim and CSplzGO aren't "professional applications" dipshit

R and Emacs are the only things you need

>>60010701

>I'm drunk
>It's easier to use windows than linux while drunk
>I'm just watching porn or torrenting movies.
>I'm of legal age

Is there an officer, problem?

>>60011372

>implying you use "professional applications"

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>>60011430
>R and Emacs are the only things you need
>I don't make anything multimedia based

k lad

>>60011693
>I don't make meme shit for children and manchildren

ur rite i dont

lol @ non STEM

>>60011693
Just load your adobe shit or whatever you cocksuckers use in WINE. Winkids are the biggest tools.

>>60011292
What piece of mac hardware do you use the most?

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>>60011737
few people want an OS just to rice up with anime and post on an image board about their latest fizzbuzz

>>60011737
>instead of using my programs, I want to spend a week troubleshooting why they don't work before giving up on life and deciding that masturbating alone in my room is all I'll ever accomplish.

>>60011762

My main work rig is a MacPro 4,1

Two x5570s
32gb RAM
GTX 970

It's been pretty nice. Does everything I need and I put it together for pretty cheap.

>>60011381
>implying that everyone on 4chan is an unmotivated lazy NEET

shit never mind

>he doesn't know about LTSB

>>60010701
>He lives in 2017

Why wouldn't I use Windows 10 on a desktop or laptop in C U R R E N T Y E A R?
I already have to suffer ganoo/lenux on my raspberry pi, why should I dedicate computers that are capable of more than just playing a video and running a few python scripts to being useless besides that or at best do the same windows does? If the only point you're able to make is muh privacy or muh freedom then sorry, but you seem to be mentally handicapped.

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>>60010701
>he uses Linux
>Ever

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>>60010701
>using linoox

>>60010701
This may come as a surprise to you but some people aren't NEETs and need to use their computers for more things than watching anime and browsing /g/ on, which makes Windows or MacOS the only alternatives

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>>60011683

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>using wangblows

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>he uses Windows 10 x64 Enterprise N LTSB in 2017

>>60010701
>He is a cat who gets triggered by other people's preferences

>>60010701
Another unemployed neet in /g/, what are the odds?

>>60013520
BTFO

>>60011737
>he thinks WINE is a viable alternative

Lincucks are truly delusional.

>>60015150
>Why are there NEETs on an anime NEET website?

>>60016459
>He's a deluded wagecuck who thinks he needs windows because his master said so

>>60011504
>>It's easier to use windows than linux while drunk
>>I'm just watching porn or torrenting movies.
Browsers and torrentr clients work the same in Linux as they do in Windows, lad. Perhaps you should lay off the booze, it may kill the last two brain cells you have left.

>>60012178
Are you really implying you're making computer science studies with Windows? Hahahahaha

>>60013520
Pirating proprietary software doesn't mean you use professional applications… I mean, professionally

>>60016487
Found the NEET.

It just works tho

>>60017250
It means you need software that is only available on Windows therefore rendering Linux useless. Because Linux has no software and no drivers.

Why would somebody pay to be spied on?

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>>60011372
>>60013520
>>60016443
Relevant pasta:
Kicad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCG4daPvuVI
Natron
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2MvbfuITT8
Blender
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDRTjzLNK0g
Krita
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raKHHFv4nN8
Krita
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEoJgQAfb5Y
Lightworks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7znIHsyqfm0
Kdenlive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8hO4K7mZG4
Unity3D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4BUcIDdpAM
Opentoonz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGFUtqM8oAs
Godot engine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqumdhqy8Uw
BricsCAD VS Autocad
http://cad.softwareinsider.com/compare/5-10/AutoCAD-vs-BricsCAD
Bricscad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eLM3NrOJms
Freecad Demo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XW0AqKG5zI
Freecad BIM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qmjz6WXyWBY
Freecad & 3D printing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqZeThC38ug
Gimp 2.10 features
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5RIveQypgw
How to install photoshop on wine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-Mo3GTcOQ4
Digikam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnk_VzedqlU
Pixar Film Production
https://youtu.be/JmH4KYcmHOo
Linux art 1
http://www.sylvia-ritter.com/new-gallery/
Linux art 2
http://www.peppercarrot.com/
Davinci resolve
https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/davinciresolve

>>60017256
Why are you wasting time on 4chan during your weekend wagie? You have a busy week of making your boss lots of money to look forward to.

>>60010701
>no fun allowed
I use linux everything but gayming.

>>60017601
holy shit the freetards delusion is real.

>>60017281
>It means you need software that is only available on Windows therefore rendering Linux useless.
You need are not everyone's need, i respect if you have a hard dependency on a windows only program but i don't get how you using windows-only programs makes true your next statement.

>Because Linux has no software
Proved wrong, see >>60017601

>and no drivers
Yeah, i guess this is why i can use a full featured session on a live installation media on linux without even touching the drive but i need to search for the correct drivers on windows. Don't get me wrong, it's obvious that due to the huge marketshare windows holds they'll have unconditional support from third parties on the desktop hardware, but windows hardly supports hardware by itself. Honestly, despite there's some companies that ignore linux completely (less common each day) the only drivers i need to install on any computer i've tried are broadcom's and nvidia's, and those can be installed directly from a GUI included with the OS. Honestly drivers is not a reason why i would come back to windows, in fact is the opposite.

>>60017706
Ok, explain your reasoning instead of calling names.

>>60017716
>Proved wrong, see
There are "professional" software for almost every category anyone can imagine, so pasta not needed. If someone thinks the other way, he is an idiot or biased and will be on heavy denial.

>>60017736
>taking /v/ bait.

>>60017281
>Because Linux has no software and no drivers.
Are you serious?

>>60016459
>b-b-but that doesn't count! That MUST not count! That's cheating! Fucking lincucks cheaters with no honor! Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

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>>60017779
I know but the smear campaign is strong in this board, interestingly every time someone post this pasta the thread is not bumped anymore, because they know their arguments are based on baseless claims.

>>60011228
>shitposting
>torrents
>vpn
>media center

it just werks

>>60010701
>he values memes and fitting in on /g/ over user convenience
Kek. I use Windows because I'm not a jobless aspie with hundreds of hours of free time a week to fiddle around with my computer trying to get it to work competently for basic tasks when Windows handles them beautifully with zero effort on my part.

>>60010701
I use Windows because I want to.

>>60010701
There's nothing wrong with W10 LTSB so I'll continue using it, thanks

>>60017601
Ffs stop shilling software you haven't EVER used professionally. As an illustrator, Krita falls short on MANY areas, and pressure is specially shit if you're on a Cintiq. On the other hand, GIMP is still lacking on basic areas and user interface was clearly not designed to be friendly or intuitive. Believe, I fucking tried to like these programs, but your pasta is shit.

They may be a replacement for a hobbyist, but if you're doing professional work on these, you're just crippling yourself on purpose.

Its like saying "hey, I can do that Python server too in assembly". They all are fucking Turing complete, of course you can do the same things eventually.

>>60010701
>using loonix
>not even once.

>>60019250
related:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2g5qbvb7F4

Video games are literally my only vice and if I can't enjoy some old school vidya from time to time, no deal.

>inb4 some autist tries to tell me how to spend my free time

>>60019284
>some old school vidya
Are you aware that there are machines that don't require you to run Windows or connect to the internet to play old video games?

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lol at the wagecucks going "durr u neet" ITT, lmao.

Fact: a salary is only acceptable if you're a CEO (reality check, you wagecuck will never be a CEO. Think about it moron, there's millions of cucks like you, only 1 out of hundreds of thousands will be CEO of anything worth more than shit.)

OR a public servant, of any branch. You have no boss when your country is employing you.

Nothing beats the freedom of being self-employed though. Feels good being a lawyer.

>>60019299
I don't mean console games. I have a dedicated Raspberry Pi for console games. I'm talking DOS games and a load of other titles up until late 2000s (yeah yeah, I know this period doesn't count as old school, but it's old for me, since I grew up with that shit)

During my Linux phase I kind of started missing some stuff and when I had free time I tried to get stuff to work. Many titles worked through emulation with mediocre performance. Plenty of stuff didn't work. Then I dual booted Linux/Windows. Then I realized that I dont really need Linux and I can do everything I need with Windows.

>>60019304
>NEET

When is the last time you've seen a NEET that doesn't live off their parents?

>>60019351
>I'm talking DOS games and a load of other titles up until late 2000s
Why do you need an internet-connected Windows computer to do that

>>60019388
Because I don't need more than 1 system.

>>60019369
An acquaintance who lives off rent from 20+ properties.

>>60019421
That's not a NEET. That's an investor.

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>>60019304
I'm glad that I'm retired now. Fuck making money for someone else. Im going to get high, chill, and play with hardware for the foreseeable future.

>>60019421
Do you know what NEET stands for, right?

>>60019437
He inherited it. Hire people to manage it and does the bare minimum he has to.

>investor
That's a funny way to spell parasite.

>>60019475
An oldfag?
In my /g/?
It's less likely than I thought.

chromeOS a best

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>>60019514
Son I've been programming and building computers since the Apple II came out in 1977.

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>use windows
>turn off cortana and telemetry
>block MS servers
>no more spying

Funny that Linux users can use a CLI, but claim its too hard to change a few settings in Windows 10.

all of you bickering about this shit are retarded and probably do little productive work on your computers, it hardly natter what OS you fucking use so long as it suits your needs. stop with this m-muh special club shit, you're all faggots anyway.

>unfunny reaction image in 2017

kys you fucking retard

you fags are fucking retarded for getting this heated over OS LMAO who gives a shit

>>60019579
>>block MS servers
Nice delusion.

>>60019883
Name one ip that can't be blocked and I'll test for it at the router level.

>>60019937
MS outsmart your hosts file.

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Stop using GNU

>>60019722
underrated

>>60019960
Proofs?

>>60019960
Oh sweetie, either put up or shut up.

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>>60020038
>>60020188
>OS goes out of its way to report back to the mothership
>can't be turned off
>up to the user to prove it's happening vs MS to prove it's not


how's that corporate cock taste?

>>60020216
No evidence, as expected from applel shills!

>>60020216
I turned it off.

>>60019250
>>60019277
>Ffs stop shilling software you haven't EVER used professionally.
>As an illustrator...
Ok, so you can assume things about people on an anonymous board, then i can assume things too and it would be just as valid: you're not an illustrator, you're at best a hobbyist and a windows fanboy who feels butthurt by the fact that it was proved in this thread that there exists good tools for illustration on linux.

>Krita falls short on MANY areas
The pasta never claims any of that software is perfect or compares it directly the features with other programs, it's just evidence that they're useful tools for professional work. So elaborate and provide links please.

> and pressure is specially shit if you're on a Cintiq.
Prove it.

>On the other hand, GIMP is still lacking on basic areas and user interface was clearly not designed to be friendly or intuitive.
It's a pretty common opinion that gimp is not as good as (for example) photoshop, yet i consider is a powerful tool that has made strides lately which is evident if you try the development branch. I agree that the UI needs an overhaul definitely.

>Believe, I fucking tried to like these programs, but your pasta is shit.
Each one decides that, for you is shit but it may be useful for other people. Consider i'm providing evidence while you're providing at best opinions, so i just need to disagree with your claims.

>They may be a replacement for a hobbyist, but if you're doing professional work on these, you're just crippling yourself on purpose.
The pasta never states that if you need an specific tool for work you should ditch that tool and use the ones in the pasta. Again, the pasta only provides evidence of the capabilities of those tools, each one decides it they want to give them a shot, and who knows, maybe they could like them more than their current tool.

>>60019304
Found the NEET

>>60020555
>Its like saying "hey, I can do that Python server too in assembly". They all are fucking Turing complete, of course you can do the same things eventually.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2g5qbvb7F4
Hmm, basically you're trying to say that my evidence is not valid because i'm not showing useful and powerful tools that can potentially be used in a professional environment, but that by my logic you could even use paint for doing great things right? now, is your comparison valid? does the features of either krita or gimp are comparable to paints? It's a fair comparison or you're trying to pull a false equivalence? Simple, it's paint nearly as powerful as gimp or krita? Because you only provide an opinion i'll just need to say: i consider your comparison it's unfair and therefore false. Yet i'll put this here and let everyone to decide by themselves:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_raster_graphics_editors

>>60011381
>>60011430
>>60011683
>>60017601
Holy shit Lincucks on 100% damage control

Not even trying to play down any argument here. But why are Linux users this obsessive to defend their opinion?
I understand iFags who just spent 900€ on a new iPoo that they try to rationalize their really bad investment decision. But you guys do it for free.
Damn just live with it that other people have other demands or opinions.

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>>60022226
>my face in a few minutes

>>60011292
>bioinformatics tools on OSX
Care to elaborate?

>>60022226
>waah why do people explain their reasoning when you ask them to
Is this your first time arguing with people?

>>60022402
These "Linux vs Windows XD" arguments just seem really cancerous to me. This will never, ever be settled. Is the sole purpose of all this just to ruse people?

>>60022500
>Is the sole purpose of all this just to ruse people?
People love to spout their thoughts for no reason and do all sorts of things to defend them. Crying "damage control" when you can't respond to something is a good example.

>>60022639
>Can't respond to something
I mentioned that I'm not trying to play down any argument here. I'm not the guy who made that "professional applications" point either.

>>60022691
>. I'm not the guy who made that "professional applications" point either.
I'm aware of that. I'm not opposing you I just gave that guy as an example.

>>60022722
There seem to be some misunderstandings then. I really wish /g/ had ID's like some other boards have (or had).
Anyways. Glad to see normal replies.

>>60020555
>The pasta never states that if you need an specific tool for work you should ditch that tool and use the ones in the pasta. Again, the pasta only provides evidence of the capabilities of those tools, each one decides it they want to give them a shot, and who knows, maybe they could like them more than their current tool.

The capabilities of those tools may be fantastic, but if they don't fulfill the user's needs, introduces undue complexity or just don't integrate well in professional environments (it's perfectly valid to assume many people use a tool because their particular profession has standardized on that tool, such as Avid Media Composer for film or Photoshop for photography) then they won't be used.

Most people don't want to use an alternative once they have their workflow down. Others might use FL Studio while I prefer Ableton Live. That's not even crossing the OS divide. Traktor doesn't work on Linux and I don't expect it to anytime soon. Mixxx probably works well for point-and-click usage but from what I've read falls flat on Controller support and integration. I have no problem paying Native Instruments for their hardware (it's damn good stuff), their controller support, having a support avenue in case I need it and their continued work to maintain and keep stable what is, at the end of the day, a professional tool.

People will use Linux when their favorite software gets ported over. Not an imitation, the real thing. Unless that imitation has practically reached feature parity and workflow/UI is also practically the same. As an example LibreOffice introduced the Ribbon theme which makes it way easier to switch from MS Office to LibreOffice (opinion).

This unfortunately goes back to the chicken and egg problem. BigCorp wants users on Linux first before they invest in porting. People want BigCorp's software on Linux before they switch over.

>>60023131
>The capabilities of those tools may be fantastic, but if they don't fulfill the user's needs
So you basically read minds?

>introduces undue complexity or just don't integrate well in professional environments
Why? care to explain for each one, you seem to be talking about everyone. Did you actually open the links? does this means pixar and the studio ghibli are not professionals? and that tools like davinci resolve and lightworks or even blender are not used in the industry? what about natron? i'm starting to suspect you're just talking for the sake of talk.

>it's perfectly valid to assume many people use a tool because their particular profession has standardized on that tool, such as Avid Media Composer for film or Photoshop for photography) then they won't be used.
Basically your argument now is popularity right? well depends on the tool, some of the ones in the pasta are actually popular.

>Most people don't want to use an alternative once they have their workflow down.
True and it's respectable. Others might use FL Studio while I prefer Ableton Live. That's not even crossing the OS divide.

>Traktor doesn't work on Linux and I don't expect it to anytime soon. Mixxx probably works well for point-and-click usage but from what I've read falls flat on Controller support and integration. I have no problem paying Native Instruments for their hardware (it's damn good stuff), their controller support, having a support avenue in case I need it and their continued work to maintain and keep stable what is, at the end of the day, a professional tool.
So it's again the "my use case is everyone's use case" argument? i get what you say but you're extrapolating too much.

>People will use Linux when their favorite software gets ported over.
True, there's a lot of professional software that would help a lot to push the adoption of linux, the well known egg-chicken game.

>>60024316
>Not an imitation, the real thing.
What? what is your reasoning here?, where do you draw the line to qualify something as "authentic"? This sounds a lot like a dogma you follow blindly and negating completely the existence of competition for the sake of argumenting that linux has no good tools.

>Unless that imitation has practically reached feature parity and workflow/UI is also practically the same.
There's a lot of reasons to prefer one piece of software over another and different use cases including different prices and even different features that one program doesn't have but others does. At this point your argument seem to be "that dosen't count, it's not exactly the same program i use".

> As an example LibreOffice introduced the Ribbon theme which makes it way easier to switch from MS Office to LibreOffice (opinion).
True, when a program is very extended is necessary to implement similar workflows sometimes.

>This unfortunately goes back to the chicken and egg problem. BigCorp wants users on Linux first before they invest in porting. People want BigCorp's software on Linux before they switch over.
I agree in this point. This doesn't negate the previous evidence that shows there's software for professional use on linux tho.

>>60024316
>So you basically read minds?

I can guarantee you there will be users that will not find the provided software up to scratch, as well as the familiarity and workflow argument. The inverse is also true. People switch if there's a hugely compelling reason (generally the workplace shifts software and workflow).

>Why? care to explain for each one, you seem to be talking about everyone. Did you actually open the links? does this means pixar and the studio ghibli are not professionals?

We both know that we aren't experts in every field that is covered by software. I can't speak for CAD, for instance, so I'd have to get someone I know to weigh in on that.
Pixar has always pushed the envelope in what they do and I think it's fantastic. But it's just one industry and, from what I've read, they still do modeling in Autodesk Maya.
I do have some very brief experience with film and it was Final Cut (7, X had just launched). I haven't even heard of Lightworks until today. From what I've read "The Avid" is the most popular at super-high level production.

>Basically your argument now is popularity right?

It's a significant factor. If an industry generally uses one software product a new entrant into that industry is probably going to get started on it. Plus company could require you to use it to be interoperable with other employees.

>So it's again the "my use case is everyone's use case" argument? i get what you say but you're extrapolating too much.

My use case and every other DJ I've ever met, which is a fair few. You either play on hardware (CDJ's), Traktor or Serato.
The majority use Traktor. It's just become more convenient and familiar. I have never once seen Algoriddim DJay, Virtual DJ or Mixxx (outside of bedroom hobbyists).
For all intents and purposes my use case is the same as everyone else in this specific field, yes. Serato doesn't work on Linux either. Most use Macs as well anyway. This is one industry I can speak with 100% certainty on.

>>60010701
>W**dows
Computer illiterate people needs to stay contained into an OS and it does a good job doing that

>doesn't like Windows because "muh freedom"
>uses babby's first Linux distro instead
>literally only changes the colours and wallpaper, uses the default browser for social media and watching anime
>vehemently claims that "it's impossible" to disable the spyware in Windows
>argues that anybody who uses Windows is guaranteed to be spied on and doesn't know computers
>is really too afraid to admit they're computer illiterate as their grandmother

Come on, guys, just use the OS that you prefer, and if you're too stupid to disable the spyware in Windows...stop being so narcissistic. Nobody cares what weird fetish shit you jack it to, or how many hours you waste shitposting here.

If you like ease of access, use Windows. If you need "creative" shit, use Mac (older versions, newer ones are ass). And if you're actually into computers and NOT just trying to impress teenagers on /g/, then use Linux.

>>60019722
your OS is literally your computer. why would you use a shit computer