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so it wasn't a meme after all...

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http://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/4/20/15375828/intel-optane-3d-xpoint-ssd-reviews
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>>60008081
>sequential read speeds lower than Samsung's 960 series
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>>60008122

Let me know when use a 960 as as RAM for scratching.
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>>60008163

NVDIMM.
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>>60008081
>1.5k$
>375Gb
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THANK YOU INTEL!
YOU TRULY ARE OUR GREATEST ALLY!
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>>60008390
Emphasis on the inexpensive part. It's only like 5$ per GB.
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>>60008081
>sequential speeds slower than NVMe
>random access only marginally faster
>literally an order of magnitude more expensive
Are they out of their fucking minds?
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>>60008495
They had to release out otherwise investors would sue
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>>60008532
Huh. So I guess maybe the price is to get people not to buy it because they know it's shit? Do you think they're just writing it off?
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So this is the power of Intel monopoly........ woah
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>>60008081
>so it wasn't a meme after all
>it's actually a huge fucking meme

Guess it's opposite day as usual in shill land.
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>>60008825
Wrong. It isn't a meme because it is a huge fucking disappointment. Like, worse than the Itaniums level disappointment.

In a few years it'll be nothing but a footnote in history, like the Intel Turbo Memory (look it up - it's the reason Vista and Win7 had Readyboost).
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/g/ is too retarded to understand the purpose of this outside of WHUT SO ITS JUST A BIG EXPENSIVE SSD????????????
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>>60008892
Yeah yeah, cheap RAM substitute for massive data sets. Except it sucks at that, too.
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>>60008964
1) First generation hardware. The technology behind it is incredibly sound.
2) It sucks at that compared to pure DRAM, but it's not meant to fucking replace it. It's a supplement to the total memory pool. You take these and throw them into systems that would otherwise have already been maxed out.
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>>60008985
>throw them into systems
Not the anon you were typing at, but how exactly would this work? Would you have to open the case up and plug this into the mobo directly, or is there some kind of external attachment that would be used?
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>>60009039
m.2 slot.
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>>60008892
>/g/ is too retarded to understand the purpose of this outside of WHUT SO ITS JUST A BIG EXPENSIVE SSD????????????
/g/ is, this would be good as a cache tier storage device in a VMware VSAN setup. But the tards on /g/ dont understand the purpose of tiering.
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>>60009092
whoever designed the m.2 mounting paradigm needs to be put up a firing line, blindfolded with a rag soaked in vinegar and salt, crucifixed with apples pinned through every non-vital organ, and prize incentives given to the firing squad for hitting the apples with their BB guns.
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>>60009354
The concept was cheaper than RAM with much better than SSD performance, and it only managed to hit one of those marks. It's prototype garbage.
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>>60008985
>First generation hardware. The technology behind it is incredibly sound.
That's great, wake me up when it's actually worth half a shit.
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>>60009440
>The concept was cheaper than RAM with much better than SSD performance, and it only managed to hit one of those marks. It's prototype garbage.
It has a order of magnitude better latency. All the retards on /g/ think of is sequential throughput.
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>>60009039
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im still stuck on the 3D part, wtf do they mean ?
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>>60009507
Even Anandtech that practically worships Intel is critical of the thing

http://www.anandtech.com/show/11209/intel-optane-ssd-dc-p4800x-review-a-deep-dive-into-3d-xpoint-enterprise-performance/

"The Optane SSD is ultimately an expensive niche product. If you don't need high throughput random access with the strictest latency requirements, the Optane SSD DC P4800X may not be the best choice. It is very expensive compared to most flash-based SSDs."

"With the Optane SSD and 3D XPoint memory now clearly established as useful and usable, the big question is how broad its appeal will be. The originally announcements around Optane promised a lot, and this initial product delivers a few of those metrics, so to some extent, the P4800X may have to grow its own market and reteach partners what Optane is capable of today. "
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>>60009669
is it meant to be figurative or like ... actual 3d????
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>>60009540
Welp.
Time to fap to this one again.
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>>60009682
>the big question is how broad its appeal will be
Enormous in the right applications.
That article isn't critical of Optane itself, but rather is pointing out it's a fucking enterprise-level product with a fairly specific use-case. For consumers, there's no reason. Learn to think.
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>>60009714
They tried to market it to consumers as this readyboost thing. It was a joke, performed about as well as low end netbook eMMC.
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>>60009705
Disgusting degenerate. Go outside for one in your miserable existence. Work out and eat healthy you slob, you fucking human centipede, you miscreant. You're a disgrace to your gender and your species.
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I look forward to the ridiculous discounts i'll get as an Intel BB.
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>>60008985
>1) First generation hardware. The technology behind it is incredibly sound.

The same holds true for Zen and yet all of /g/ is collectively bashing it because it scores 5fps lower in World of Warcraft.
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>>60008644
The price is that high because the yields are total shit, they couldn't make it cheaper even if they wanted
>>60009507
It's more expensive than DRAM, the only reason to get it it's to prototype systems once decent products are released
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>>60009682
>"The Optane SSD is ultimately an expensive niche product. If you don't need high throughput random access with the strictest latency requirements, the Optane SSD DC P4800X may not be the best choice. It is very expensive compared to most flash-based SSDs."
Its not critical towards the device, it is stating the truth. This isnt intended for consumers, its a enterprise class drive. The entire P series SSDs from intel are enterprise

>>60009857
>It's more expensive than DRAM
lolwut? its cheaper than a pair of 64GB DDR4 ECC DIMMs. If you compared it to NVDIMMs they would be even more.

http://www.crucial.com/usa/en/ct2k64g4lfq424a

>the only reason to get it it's to prototype systems once decent products are released
how retarded are you?
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>>60009776
Cool story bro.
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>>60008425
>5 USD for a GB
WHEN YOUR CASH LEAVES YOUR SIDE, IN THE BLINK OF AN EYE

THAT'S JEWMORE
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>>60009776
>he gets off on this
You're the degenerate here roastie
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>>60009857
has nothing to do with yields and everything to do with production capacity
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>>60008345
ONLY GOOD GOYIM BUY OUR PRODUCTS FUCK YOU AMD SHILL
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>>60009669
Multi-layered microchips
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>>60009669
Super basic dumb shit explanation:
Traditional memory is like a 2D grid with memory cells and wires connecting them along the x and y axis. Voltage sent along a set of x and y wires sets the data for the memory cell at the intersection.
3D memory is similar but every now and then the wires go up along the z axis and string together multiple layers of memory.
3DXP is like 3D memory except each layer now has it's own wire topology in addition to wires that connect them along the z axis, for full granular control of data flow.
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>>60008081
It's not a meme, it's itanic-esque failure. They promised revolution again and we got extremely niche overcosted NAND replacement.
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