Synthesizers

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>>60006254
u want to make music using an 4 figure analog synth in 2017?

>>60006254
Eurorack

Zebra2 (the hans zimmer version) and serum. Most pros in electronic music nowadays have serum, and hans Zimmer literally uses a synthetizer worth thousands of dollars just as a keyborder and Zebra2 as synthetizer. Disregard every other post, nobody here knows shit.

Before you buy a synth, download reaper and some softsynths and make music that way for a while. then you'll slowly understand what you want in a synth.

I have a few modular synths but I mostly compose with softsynths.

>>60007211
this.
https://www.kvraudio.com/product/sq8l_sq8x_by_siegfried_kullmann this one is a very good vst for ambient music. And it's free!

>>60006254
go modular.

Do you already make music and know your way around a DAW? If not, a synth is probably a bad investment.

If you absolutely want some hardware, Korg Volcas are not a bad way to get started.

>>60007124
>>60007243

1000 won't even touch the sides.

on a budget get good at softsynths.

Reactor will do anything if you're good enough.

My Eurorack is good just not as powerful.

>>60006254
Honestly I'd just get something cheap like a korg MS 20 mini, arturia microbrute, or the korg volca series and spend the rest on cheap, used older stuff (Yamaha tx81z is a good FM synth for beginners, and was used on alot of 90's dance tracks), then use free software like reaper and VSTs to fill in the gaps with what you can't do with what hardware you have. I'd recommend an audio and midi interface too.

>>60007263
not that good for industrial, I love mine, don't get me wrong.

>>60007263
Volca's that is.

I heard 80's/90's synths are really cheap nowadays, and will become more expensive later on. What are some nice vintage 80s/90's synths?

>>60007419
That's probably true. I imagine you would really have to push the keys or fm to their limits to get something interesting enough for industrial.

>>60000000

Get a dank rack synth and a midi keyboard+DAW from this century
Yamaha had some nice analog synths, D9 or F7 or whatever it was still is a powerful analog synth and classic premade sound bank to learn around

step 1) learn adsr
step 2) make release go to infinity
step 3) step away from synthesizer as ambient msic makes itself

>>60006254
Moog Mother32 is a good starting point, Eurorack synth that basically has everything you need for the beginning, good as standalone for recording into a DAW, can be used for bass, leadsynth, pad and pretty much any other type of sound and can be further expanded with modules.
It's around 700 bucks but you can find them for 600 sometimes, great value tbqh senpai.

https://youtu.be/GCJacEzcU7A

>>60006254
The roland Gaia is surprisingly capable of making nice Ambient pads. Not so much for industrial though. Get yourself a used Nord Lead 2X or a prophet 08 module. If you really want to use a bread and butter synth, get the Virus TI Snow module and hook it up to your favorite daw.

>>60007585
>ADSR
>Using machines that only play premade recordings of synthesizers

>>60007515
Haven't heard the keys to be honest.
Industrial is mostly all about the fx though I would say, much like good techno, delayed to fuck and back, distortion, verbs.
Layered and layered, you aren't really hearing the tone generators at the end of it.

That's why it's cool.

>>60007477
2 affordable VA classics i can easily name (and which i both have): Roland JP-8000 and Yamaha AN1X.

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>>60007645
Torrent FL and Massive and fuck off with your "cool" music

>>60007663
Does Roland even make an analog synth now

>>60007670
woooaa, Fruity Loops?

haven't heard that in a while, shit m8

>>60007687
They actually have released one recently, but it's overpriced and looks like it was designed by Alienware, pretty fuckibg ugly, red LEDs all over that fucker. Not worth the money.

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>>60007670
Massive may be a massive meme but it's really very powerful, especially when you use it for stronger synth-dependent uses like ambience and pads instead of basically creating a generic wub sample

>>60007687
they got some 'hybrids' out, demo'd one the other day, not convinced

>>60007687
Actually, they do: https://www.roland.com/global/products/jd-xa/

>>60006254
It is really a question of 3 things.
1) Do you want to click or do you want to turn buttons
DAW or hardware or both ?
2) Do you have any experience ?
beginner / free / bundled first or you already know what subtractive and additive synthesis is.
3) What is your ultimate goal ?
Wana play for fun or do you want to play for others ?

Anyways herer are a few options:
You could start out with a DAW like Logic that has plenty of decent quality bundled synths, or some free daw like MU.Lab and hunt for free plugins.

You can also buy a synth like Serum or Omnisphere and plug it into your favorite DAW

You could also buy a basic multi purpose hardware synth like an Arturia Micro Brute (mono synth and keys)

You could get some Volcas and join them together.

You could go all out eurorack modules and mix and match to your pleasure.


In music the possibilities are endless

>>60007663
>Yamaha AN1X
sound really cool

>>60006254

Anything modular or semi-modular.

I got a lot of nice Skinny Puppy-like sounds out of a Korg MS-2000. There's also now that Korg MS-20 Mini or wtfever. These are my favorite. Not sure the MS-2000 would be good for ambient, though. It's hard to make it not sound "thin".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaVU_vqaMSU

Samplers can take you really far. The Korg Kaoss Pad is a lot of fun.

I'll also second the Nord Lead 2X -- seen a lot of industrial bands use this.

Pretty much anything by Dave Smith Instruments (like the Prophet 08) is going to make your panties drop.

Otherwise just a DAW and some VSTs.

>>60007762
Yeah, it's a hidden gem regarding VA's. It seems to be modelled towards the Prophet 5 regarding sound signature. It has a somewhat unique layering concept on it which "blends" 2 layers of synth parameters together which create pretty interesting sounds, especially when you use the mod wheel on it for blending.

>>60007768
>recommending Kaoss pad to 100% of people
Just like high school

>>60007821
>being mean to people
just like....

$600 Oculus with touch
$10 soundstage
Now your making music in VR for only $610

>>60006254
Am I the only one who uses it like a piano????

>>60007855
>>60007821
Well he's kind of right, mate. A Kaoss Pad is more of an effect unit than a looping module (Kaossilator pro does that).

While both are fun devices (i got them), they are of no use for someone who's buying his first synth. They are too specific for that. You're better off with a cheap synth from novation/korg/arturia/whatever for that pricerange.

>>60007821

Kaoss Pad is legit good for industrial when you want to stay out of the DAW as much as possible, but can't afford or unwilling to buy an extensive hardware setup, though.

>>60007952

Well, fuck. I take it back, Kaossilator Pro would be better.

My mind's still in 2008/2009 (when I last seriously worked on electronic music). Haven't kept up the best.

>>60007601
Probably the best choice, especially for ambient and industrial.
I wish i could buy one without making my wife freak out about the price. Kill me.

>>60008026
>>60007952
>Kaossilator pro
Still there are better options man, if you wan't to loop, get a Boss module, they are better. For sound creation there are several grooveboxes available (Novation Circuit, Korg Electribes). The kaossilator pro is a nice extra addition on an already existing live setup but it's limited for solo use. Except if you are beardyman. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apqF40rf5FY)

>>60007952
you may well be right!

I've been buying synths for 20 years and it's learned me one thing only,
There's no need to belittle someone for their opinion or lack of knowledge.
It's supposed to be fun. Yo

not heard the kaossilator, worth picking up?

>>60008072

I used to use the MS-2000 and a Kaoss Pad when I was a brokefag, along with my DAW. For like $500 worth of equipment, it REALLY helped me grow as a musician, and getting out of the DAW really helped my music feel like real music and people actually started listening to my stuff and I did a couple live shows.

It's why I recommended it. I wasn't intending OP to try to make music with *just* a Kaoss Pad. I'm assuming he probably works inside his DAW a lot.

>>60006254
massive is great
as far as daw, lmms seems neat on first impression

>>60008073
Second hand, for around 150-200 it's well worth it, but honestly it's sitting there in my studio. the DAW does a better job on recording/looping.

Still, it's fun to pick it up once in a while and just play on it with a mic / synth and hooked to the kaoss pad. It has a great beat library to quickly start off a song.

So yeah, if you find one in the 150-200 pricerange, grab it and enjoy. Shouldn't be a problem finding a regular one in that range. The "+" version honestly doesn't add that much extra to it (i had the regular, currently own the +).

Get a cheap M-Track audio interface, a midi controller and download FL Studio. Also find shitloads of samples, presets or other shit you want to use. But be careful. Once you become famous, you may happen to be in position, where you will have to buy all the pirated shit you have. Audio Industry is expensive.

>>60008140
Well that's what i'm also saying:
>The kaossilator pro is a nice extra addition on an already existing live setup but it's limited for solo use.

The Kaoss pad has a ton of effects that you can add to your synthesizer sound. It's a blessing for this.

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>>60008175
Got to get me one, thanks, it's nice to hit buttons once in a while, too much DAW in my life right now,

And get a Waldorf pulse analogue, best buy ever.

>>60008188
>Once you become famous, you may happen to be in position

Enjoy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfCmoEixxro

Also kids, don't forget, always add a shit ton of reverb!

>>60008245
yeah the pulse is a fun one, props to the VA classics setup.

>>60008276
it was a golden age, sound good and no re-capping ;)

>>60008276
favourite synth?

>>60007633
wut

Just buy Zebra and Omnisphere. You won't ever need anything else. Also don't fall for Serum which has been shilled by Jewel Zimmermann

>>60008276
>>60008491
Ehm....from what I have personally: Nord Wave.

VA/Digital: AN1X, Nord Lead 3 (its unique sound)
Analog: Roland Jupiter 6, Moog Sub 37
Do-it-all: Virus TI / KC (still), dismissing all the hate

it's all subjective though

>>60008775
yeh, that's what I thought, I was starting to question myself but actually, that makes no sense at all.

>only pre-made recordings
that's just a recorder wut.

>>60008827
>Buy omnisphere
are you nuts, that's a massive overkill of a library
Also nothing wrong with Serum, it's a proper VST

Also, real popular powerhouse VST's now are Dune 2 and Hive, worth a check.

>>60008864
good list, thanks.
gonna think about that.
got a virus b, didn't realise there was h8??
I love that thing.
never had any Nord but always wanted one.

Cheers.

>>60007633
???

>>60008947
There's hate towards the Virus TI because of it being used in nearly all EDM of today.

http://www.virus.info/fame

The Virus B is a great synth by the way. Nord (Lead)'s worth a check, you should test it in your local music store.

> arturia microbrute

second for this - i love my microbrute. another anon mentioned euroracks and the microbrute is a great start because it's semi-modular.

>>60009017
>being used
yeah, good reason to hate a synth.

Do you think the Nords do stuff the others can't do?

Friends swear by them and stuff, I mean, a lot of people use them. They must be unique?

>>60009135
Nord's are clean in osc sound / fx and properly build / thought out. They are very fun to use live. Not that interesting for recording.

I'd say Clavia did not release a synth/keyboard yet that wasn't appreciated...but they come at a pricerange where you could get other, perhaps more interesting options (eg. prophet, moog, elektron, ...).

>>60009263
personally (for the Nord Wave), it's my go-to synth i just start playing on for idea's.

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>>60009263
>>60009321
yup, need a Nord

post setup please.

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>>60009795
my tiny college setup

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>>60009939
stupid osx flipping shit

Is the Korg monologue any good?

>>60010181
yes

there are usually a bunch of lightly used ones on craigslist if you want to save

monologe + volca beats is a good combination for budget music making

>>60010181
ahhh ah ha yeah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emDEFtJIjy0

Nice unit.

>>60006254
just use softsynths until you figure out what you're doing

Novation X-Station if you want a DAW controller

Casio DS10 or whatever they call it now for an instrument (rather than controller)

ain't what you got, It's what you do with what you have.

>>60010489
WOW! I am enlightened.

>>60010588
one of the lucky ones.

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>>60006254
Best combo.

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>>60010614
that looks nice, bet it soundscool too.
>>60010588
was that sarcasm?

>>60010614
Is that an MS-20 mini or an ic?

>>60010757
IC.

>>60010740
Thanks, I love the sounds I can get out of both. I mostly use the virus one for pads.

>>60010740
I am truly enlightened.

>>60007356
this
eurorack is a hobby synth
you are never done buying modules
reminder: you need to buy a new case soon

>>60006254
Do you fags even make anything worth listening to? Post links.

>>60007718
i downloaded massive for the memes but i never got comfortable with it and only used presets

years later i got serum and now its just the opposite

>>60010778
yeah, got the rack virus, love it.

nice pile of synths m8.

ms20 any good? I know it is but yeah, A lot of famous people say it's their favourite, why?

there isnt a single good poly synth under 4 digits, right?

>>60010809
you are truly a cheeky monkey.

>>60010818
I can't speak for the rest of them, but I'm mostly interested in vanity projects.

gotta get yourself off right?

>>60010863
I think because it's simple, but it can get incredibly complex the more you use it. Has a giant range of sound, to calming pads to a giant wave of noise.

It's extremely versatile. One of my favorite features is the ability to hook up external instruments like bass guitars and get even more weird sounds out of it. I made a really weird buzzing noisey with a guitar hooked up.

me >>60010614
>>60010818
https://clyp.it/u5gpu3te

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I got a Waldorf Blofeld module thinking I would like synths but turns out I never use the thing. In fact I think its deadly boring. I think part of the problem is that it has a digital UI and the knobs mostly just navigate menus.

I've been playing piano and keyboard for over 20 years I thought I would enjoy anything keyboard related. no offense guys but that shit is so boring to me. Am I missing some critical element that makes synths fun or are they supposed to be dull and lifeless?

>>60006254
Alesis ion
Yamaha AN1x
Waldorf Blofeld
Korg radias

>>60010947
Anything with changing harmonies?
>>60011008
What makes it boring/dull/lifeless to you?

>>60011079
https://clyp.it/xcgens0l

https://clyp.it/1scnqjp4

https://clyp.it/ynpcuau4

>>60006656
shut the fuck up faggot

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>>60006254

>>60011396
kys retard

>>60006254
Roland juno

>>60006254
The Korg MS-20 is *the* sound of industrial music. The filter is very aggressive and it has a flexible sonic palette.

>>60006254
Industrial and ambient are best off with VST's, They've both been heavily based around digital synths since their inception, and realistically modulars and monophonic analogs will just be a terrible pain to work with if you're not already accustomed to synths in general.

People that make sense...
>>60007211
>>60007263
>>60007718
>>60008827
>>60010273

Anyone telling you to buy hardware worth more than 1k you can safely disregard.

>>60011396
this

A guitar, don't worry kid. One day you'll get good.

>>60014463
>Anyone telling you to buy hardware worth more than 1k you can safely disregard.

on this i can agree, everything else can be disregarded

I'm thinking of getting a Yamaha DGX-660 and teaching myself some shit. Or should I save some cash and get a cheap P115 + Pianoteq?

>>60006254
vsti and get a bunch of midi controllers.

>>60006254
you'd better be making some dank ass ambient dub music that stuff is fire and it's just not being made anymore.

>>60006254
Clavia Nord Lead 1 (with pcb upgrade)

and

Korg MS2000

or

Alesis Ion

>>60019210
oh and forgot to mention the glorious

Ensoniq ESR-1

and

Korg DS-8

and

Yamaha DX7 (the Korg above might be a better option as it it's an upgraded DX7 and has MIDI)

>>60007633
>implying you know what envelopes are
>implying ADSR means it's a rompler
kys

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$15 of led light strips can make any setup look fancy-ish

gonna make me some cinch-jones adapters soon so I can actually trigger the envelope for once

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>>60019428
ok, I seriously don't understand osx sometimes

it's not even phone posting that flips images, I guess...