/pcbg/ - PC Building General

CPUZ my RAM is dual ranked, but i can't find any information about it on crucial website.

How reliable is CPUZ?

>>59983743
Is the heat sink that obstructive that you can't just see with your eyes?

>no good AM4 itx motherboards, if any at all, available right now
What kind of tomfoolery is this?

>>59983811
dumb motherboard manufacturers.
It's also hard to fit all the chipset features on a small board.

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>https://videocardz.com/68741/galax-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-hof-features-163-phase-design

Anyone think the Sliverstone ST45SF-G PSU can power a GTX 1080? My mini build needs an updgrade.

Just found this while watching reviews etc.: https://youtu.be/aZjOx3iimr8
Do you think this guy is right? I'm thinking of getting either X370 + 1600X or B350 + 1600 and OC it to 3.8GHz for 24/7 stable usage.
1600 vs 1600X is like 40€ difference here, for mobo it's Asus X370 vs whatever B350 is like 45€ plus 40€ for cooler. So it's about 120€ difference between those two setups.

>>59983807
What am I even looking for?

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>>59983838
>only 3 8pins
Why bother?

>>59983885
Is there a wattage monitor on it?
If you undervolt and watch it, you'll be fine. Worse that happens is that power cuts out if you overload the PSU.

>>59983888
Yes, it seems that pretty much all the 1600s overlock to 4GHz at 1.4v fine. It's the best value. You might get 4.1-4.2 with a 1600X. The performance/$ of the 1600 is better and plus it comes with a cooler that you can probably get 3.7-3.8 on.
That's basically common knowledge stuff at this point.

What are some average operating temps for a Ryzen 1600?

Mine's hovering around 40C just downloading some Steam stuff and browsing the web. Was getting up to about 49C in Overwatch the other night. Am I good? This is my first time using real shit in a computer so I'm still fuzzy on how it all works.

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>>59983716
>Scandinaviafag
>Not a gamingfag (use a ps4 for limited gaming)
>Will get into Vid-edit, 1080p (DJI Ph Adv)
>also, photo edit.

Ordered Anus mobo and Case, waiting to order the rest (hoping prices will drop).
Idk if i could go for saphire 460 instead, could save me about 80 usd.
Dont know if i even Windows

>>59984006
I'm getting 25c on idle just now, Ryzen 1600

>>59984037
How's your cooling set up? I only have the CPU fan plus the two fans that came stock on the case.

>>59983960
>What am I even looking for?
Oh kek I was thinking double sided vs single sided.
For SR/DR it's tricker. But it should say "DR" or "SR" in the model number.

Ryzen PSA:

SAMSUNG M378A1K43CB2-CRC

these cheap modules work at 3200 at CL18-18-18.

I'm getting a gtx 1070.
Does it make any difference if I get a cheaper msi version or a more expensive one, asus, gigabyte etc?

>>59984074
it makes difference to your ears

it may or may not sound like vacuum

>>59984060
dual sided =dual rank
no? so if its got chips on both sides = dual rank

>>59984074
Yes they vary, any comparison review can show you that, but not enough to make the difference between $325 for one and $400 for one worth the extra $75.

>>59984106
Cheaper one it is then, not like I'll be hearing it through headphones.

>>59984120
na dual rank isn't dual sided. It's something different.
I think single sided are always single rank, but dual sided can also be single rank.
It's how many data paths there are to the dies.

How can I know how much watts my computer is using at any moment? I have a lot of stuff like HWMonitor or HWinFO but I can't seem to find anything like that.

>>59984006
As long as it doesn't hit over 80-85 you're fine. Though I don't know anything AMD.

>>59984259
buy wattmeter

>>59984259
You get a PSU that can measure it and give results to software, or buy a wattmeter.

>>59983531
1600 if you want to OC, 1600X if you might not want to, or 7700. Idk I'm too tired right now, maybe someone else can help. Repost your build so far and what you wanted again.

>>59984006
If you're concerned about your temps, run a stress test and see how high it will go.

The reported temp should be below 75C to be within safe limits.

>>59983716
>price for 500gb mushkin ssd rose from 130 to 160 bucks

fuck, should've coped earlier. Now I could either buy a crucial or ocz or samsung I think.

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Would anyone recommend the Thermaltake core v21?

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Rate my budget 1080p build /g/

Also pricedrop on 470 when?

>>59984476
You can still get the good ADATA or Crucial model for around that price.

>>59984555
Board seems expensive even for Aus.
And get 2400 RAM. It's a significant gaming performance improvement for cheap and the only way to get more performance out of that CPU.
Looks pretty okay, though.

>>59984071
Apparently samsung does not test their chips at above 2400 (2666 not available anywhere) so it's a lottery?
Or maybe they actually do and sell good chips to other companies and make their own sticks out of leftovers?
Anyway another interesting module is M378A1G43EB1-CRC that is dual rank.

FYI:

CL16 for RYZEN 5

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Cytxjc

First time build, how did I do?

>>59984595
Thanks for the RAM tip, and yeah I can get cheaper boards but then i'd have to flash the BIOS and i don't have another cpu lying around to do it with, for $30 more or so the B250M doesn't have that problem.

Any news about Skylake-E?

I almost bought a 1800X plus motherboard

Is Prime95 actually good at doing stress tests?

That shit would run for a while at only 50C after installing a Cryorig H7. My CPU would reach 70 before and make 20 times more noise while playing old ass unoptimized games. Dunno if this is normal.

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How to improve this build?

what's a good modem/router to get? anything is prob better than the leased one I have. I can spend as much as $120 on it.

>>59984741
move out of europe

cheapest pc that will:

1) play overwatch @ 144Hz minimum 1080p, any settings
2) stream somewhat smoothly to twitch

what's the cheapest CPU + GPU combo that can do this?

>>59984741
Personally I would like more PSU headroom for that build - at least 500W from a good brand.

>>59984675
Shit that sucks. You can get B250 boards for +/- $5 the cost of the G4560 itself here.

>>59984691
Should be announced at Computex.
Looks like they're making the wafers in late July. So on sale in September.
It looks like X399 may come sooner than that but AMD is just waiting to cuck Intel on that.

>>59984691
You want to buy overpriced housefires?

Thoughts on the micro PC form factor? Wanna replace my Lenovo tiny sometime in the near future and I've really come to love their size.

>>59984741
2400 RAM with Ryzen sounds pointless.

>>59984060
checked the RAM stickers there's no indication other than cpuz

>>59984802
he's not gonna draw over like 325. That's a nice PSU, too. But 450 or 500 wouldn't hurt if the same cost...

>>59984794
>1) play overwatch @ 144Hz minimum 1080p, any settings
>2) stream somewhat smoothly to twitch
>what's the cheapest CPU + GPU combo that can do this?
R7 1700 with a GTX 1060 overclocked to 2000MHz+.
If you're too pussy to overclock, get a GTX 1070.

>>59984730
No, Prime95 is not good for stress tests. Run 10 varied things simultaneously.

AMD is really getting it's shit together. Their WATTMAN over-clocking tool completely BTFO of anything that Nvidia offers.

Can anyone even name a good overclocking tool for nvidia cards? (you can't because there isn't one)

>>59984895
because you don't need to overclock it, nvidia is faster than any AMD card out of the box

ohh burn

>>59984666
Looks like a fairly ideal build, unless you can find a good 8GB RX480 on sale for around the same price.
Though I'd get the pro4 mATX board. Isn't it only $7 more?

>>59984895
The thing that bothers me about Nvidia's tools is that no one even realizes it has a framerate limiter in there that works way better than Vsync in games.
Enabling Vsync in games themselves is usually broken as fuck. It usually increases input latency, and usually locks it to 60fps instead of your monitor's refresh rate.
Nvidia's an AMD's framerate limiter both actually reduce latency.

But AMD's, besides having a high and low setting for it, puts it right there in Wattman so you can't miss it. Most people don't know the tool exists for Nvidia, when it's an extremely useful thing.

>>59984913
Typical Nvidiot. Did you sign over your social security number to Nvidia so you can use their gayforce experience?

VEGA will BTFO of the 1080ti while being cheaper.

Are temperatures of 83C normal for a 280x?

I'm just trying the demo for doom and even on low settings it gets there.

>>59984969
>Are temperatures of 83C normal for a 280x?
Not really, no. That's about as high as they should be getting at 100% load on a stock cooler I guess.

>>59984969
>Are temperatures of 83C normal for a 280x?

probably, my 290x jumps up to 94c and throttles for lack of a better word

that era of amd gpus ran hot

>>59984992
Well, idle temperatures are about 45C.

>>59984958
good to know AMD cards are just REACTING to whatever Nvidia puts out.

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>>59984969

here's what tomshardware has to say, keep in mind room temperature affects temps

replacing thermal paste on a gpu is a pain in the ass but you can probably get a few c cooler if you do as well as clean the fans and heatsink fins

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/7rxZD8
thoughts?

Does those pre-activated torrents of Windows 10 work, or will I need to buy it?

>>59985017
and Nivida will be REACTING to VEGA by shitting their pants as their stock prices plummet.

>>59985026
Damn, I have the ASUS one. I guess I do have to check that shit up. Many thanks.

>>59985059
they've got something coming out. Just wait lol, it'll be epic

>>59985064

they don't state what their room temp is but keep in mind if yours is 10c higher than theirs was at test condition yours should show about 10c higher than room temp

>>59985058
Windows 10 is free.

>>59985056
>aus prices
jesus fucking christ.
It seems like the RX570 prices are way less retarded in Aus. You can get one for just 20% more than the US cost. But your 1070s are 80% more expensive. That price/performance makes no sense. Paying 2x for a card that's not nearly 2x more performant.
Maybe drop memory to 2800-3000 if prices are more sane there, too?

>>59984612
only thing that looks terrible is CL17 on both sticks

at this point i'm pretty sure AMD just forgot about hynix/micron at higher clock, because IMC is confirmed capable of high RAM clocks
microcode simply not programmed for hynix ram? will know next update

Need a 1080p and 1440p gaming machine on 60 fps and have a budget of 600$. Can someone help out with this?

should i go with the ryzen 5 1600 or 1600x?

>>59985259
1600 and overclock.

>>59985259
Your choice

>>59985240
How do you mean both?
No you can't do 1440p on max/high settings with a $600 budget. Wtf.

>>59985215
CL16-18 is fine on Ryzen. It doesn't care as much about latency as Intel CPUs do.

>>59985147
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=windows+10

That's some expensive freeware

>>59984048
motherboard just on top of the box lol still waiting for a case left it on for a while now and its hovering around 33-34c

>>59985259
do you want to buy a cooler? go 1600x
otherwise 1600

>>59985299
using stock cooler with stock paste.

>>59984821
>included preliminary support for AMD Zen 12-core and 16-core HEDT CPUs.
From AIDA64 change-logs, that were hence removed. Listed as X399.
It looks like AMD's X399 may show up right after Intel simply announces the date for X299. Early August or so.
AMD has been trying to keep it a secret despite announcing most else 6+ months ahead.

Expectation is quad channel, 64 PCIe lanes, and the same 3.6/4.1Ghz clocks on 12 and 16 cores.
There may also be an 8 core 1850X(tentative) that has quad channel memory support and more PCIe lanes, 2 cores per CCX (and thus double the cache per core), but is otherwise the same.

>>59985215
Samsung chip catalog only has three types:
CPB: DDR4-2133 (1066MHz @ CL=15, tRCD=15, tRP=15)
CRC: DDR4-2400 (1200MHz @ CL=17, tRCD=17, tRP=17)
CTD: DDR4-2666 (1333MHz @ CL=19, tRCD=19, tRP=19)
But that's all tested at 1.2V
I guess stick manufacturers buy these chips, bump voltage to 1.35V or whatever they consider "safe" and test max frequency and latency possible (idk if it's usually per stick or per bulk, in DDR2 days some manufacturers advertised every stick being tested manually)

Actually, out of the three types above, which one should have better OC chances?

I need a suggestion for 1080p gaming for this build.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

There are two choices here for a gpu which is basically rx 470/570 or nvidia 1060 (3gb). What would you chose for this build?

>>59985294
Anon.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/software-download/windows10
Put it on an USB stick and install it. Everything works.

>>59985354
probably 2400 cl17, because you have wide range of timings to play with at reasonable clock

Took a desktop out of our building's dumpster. Turns out it's a P5QL-VM DO mobo with a C2Q Q8300, 2GB RAM, and a 500GB HDD. RAM is most certainly fucked up. Everything else seems to work fine. I'm gonna 4GB and use a 2GB I have laying around to fix it. Did I do good?

SALE

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VFS2KP4
loaf of bread keyboard wrist rest for only $14. 50% off.

>>59985357
nice link.
But you obviously don't go 1060 3GB.

>>59985443
Pretty good.

>>59984832
faggotry

>>59985517
>nice link.
oops

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/BTGBJV

why not? If I'm on a budget for 1080p gaming should I rather go for amd?

>>59985517
think it would be strong enough to use as a guest computer? sometimes friends come over and want to play overwatch
My local Kijiji has a 7950 HD for $100, should I grab it?

>>59985540
Nvidia GPUs generally shit the bed when they run out of VRAM. It's easy to use 3GB of VRAM. And lots of games use 3GB+ of VRAM.

Your build looks good, though.

>>59985627
Yeah, as long as you don't put a bloated OS on it.
Win7 with most services disabled, aero disabled, and a decent enough GPU, like, yeah a 7950 but really just an RX550 ($80 USD) or RX560 would be enough. Weaker, yes, but much more power efficient.
The CPU is strong enough.
Ideally you'd run Linux, though. But Blizzard is garbage and doesn't support Linux.

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Which one?

And why?

I'm still in the process of evaluating which hardware to get for my new 1080p 144Hz gaming pc and I can't quite decide between getting a R5 1600 w/ GTX 1080 or a 7700k w/ GTX 1070, which would cost about the same.
Will there be significant performance differences between these two options ? Even if the 1600 / 1080 combo would perform about on par with the 7700 / 1070, having 2 extra cores would be nice.

>>59985699
get the one that'll fix your shit font rendering

>>59985699
msi one because its ips

>>59984786
>>>59984741
>move out of europe

Top kek

>>59984490
I've just bought one for my first build. It starts with one 200mm fan at the front and you can add loads more on the sides with extra brackets. I haven't started my build yet because I'm waiting for my other parts but kitguru has a good review of it

>>59985699
>asus tilts right and left
never
ever
my current monitor has tilt sag and it's a bitch to deal with

>>59985750
The later is going to be GPU bottlenecked in almost everything.
The former should almost always get higher FPS but will be basically CPU bottlenecked despite only being at 70% utilization and shit, so CPU to spare for other shit despite the higher FPS.
The only problem with that is that Nvidia's driver is, at least currently, sketchy on Ryzen in a fair number of games. I would assume they'd fix it, but they haven't said anything about it.

>>59985821
Would a 1060 be an appropriate gpu to pair with the MSI?

>>59985699
None, 27 inch is too big for 1080p.

Help me, /pcbg/.
Should I wait for the big RAM OC compatibility BIOS update coming in a couple of weeks (AMD said May) before going Ryzen? Do you think it will help things a lot or is it not worth waiting for? Will the cookie-cutter build change?

>>59985889
yeah but it's cheap and I can watch movies on it from a distance easier

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WVc2nn
Obligatory best build post

>>59985838

I see, I'll probably start buying the parts in July, so hopefully the drivers will be fixed until then. Thanks man.

>>59985900
If you're gunna be using it at a distance then I guess thats fair. Otherwise for 1080p I would reccomend this guy
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16824022485
VA panel, 144hz, Freesync, curved memes, under $300.

>>59985868
>1060
no, the 480 is cheaper and the 580 is faster

>>59985922
nice bait faggotron

>[Update from the previous PC Building thread.]
>Hey anons. I see the Samsung 850 Evo 500GB on sale for $140 (tax already included). Should I jump on this sale? Or should I wait for a better deal? I don't think I could find a deal better than this in the near future, especially with all the NAND flash prices getting higher with every month.
Yeah, I decided to buy the Samsung 850 Evo 500GB that Newegg was selling on eBay for $134. Compared to all the other options, this one was just the best for its given price point. Glad I bought it just in time. It's out of stock now. SSD and RAM prices will only get worse in 2018 it seems. :(

>>59985961
Not bait friend. Just a good lookin pc

>>59985868
Neither of them list freesync or gsync in your shit screenshot that gives no info

>>59985974
That's an okay deal.
But I wouldn't be surprised if on black friday you have similar 1TB SSDs for sale for $200.

>>59985986
(you)

>>59986003
>AMD is better in every situation!!
I dont stream. I dont need moar coars. I just play shitty games and shitpost on this cancerous website

>>59986025
>I dont need moar coars.
good goyim

>>59986025
meanwhile ayymads can do both at the same time

>>59986042
Its kind of sad seeing so many people caught up in marketing hype. I bought the best cpu for what ill use it for. Im not gonna pay more or sacrifice performance just so i can be part of the AMD fan club. Theres a lot of times AMD is the prudent choice. My situation isnt one of them

Can you faggots stop yourselves from getting baited?

>>59986050
Lol

>>59985997
Black Friday (and Cyber Monday) was something I had in mind. But I'm retardedly slow when it comes to those things. I only bought this because I just happened to come across it in time.

Also, the 850 Evo is about $330 on Amazon and Newegg. Would retailers really do a $130 discount for Black Friday? Or were you talking about MX300, ADATA, and OCZ stuff for example?

I'm just glad I got the supposed best of the best of the SSDs for somewhat less then the price of the other competing brands.

>>59986087
If you have to wait 7 months to save $50 you need a better job

>>59986075
If youre referring to
>>59985922
This isnt bait. Its my build. I just like seeing amd shills swarm when someone posts an i7
>but what if you have 300 tabs open when youre playing the witcher on ultra!!!
>what if you want to stream!!
>your productivity beeds moar coars!!!
Thats not me man

>>59986101
Yeah, that's another thing I was thinking about. Waiting until November 24th would feel like a big fucking waste of time lol. But then again, he did mention a 1TB SSD rather than a 500 GB one. Still not worth it in my opinion.

>>59986101
$130 is not $50.

>>59986087
The MX300 1.1TB was $200 last black friday. It's 95-99% the same speed and reliable.

>>59986128
I know you post it every thread because everyone will say its garbage regardless of the brands.
Spamming is against the 4chan rules.

>>59985699
>27"
>1080p
kek

>>59986128
>call your shitty build only meant for one garbage activity at a time "best build"
>wooooow why are you all bullying me

How does pentium g4560 and rx 580 perform for a temporary setup?

>>59986158
Literally nobody has had any criticisms other than
>corelet
>houssefire
>goyim
Or other memes. One guy said he didnt like my mouse or white wires which is understandable but doesnt affect performance. i7 is better for single threaded tasks plain and simple

>>59986184
Pretty good, I'd imagine. Go 480 though, should be much cheaper for 5% difference.

>>59986184
the pentium might bottleneck the rx580

>>59986169
I mean if you want to run a 3 monitor set up to run blender twitch and cemu at the same time go for it. Thats not what i do. Itd be dumb to buy a cpu based on anything else

>>59986158
That sounds pretty awesome, but wouldn't the V-NAND stuff in the 850 Evo be more beneficial in the long run compared to the MX300? Or is V-NAND just a meme? I also plan to a bunch of video editing and other read/write heavyish things.

Also, I don't know if I'd want to wait 7 months for a great deal still.

Hi, does anyone here have any experience with Mushkin Reactor SSD? Are they any good, or should i go with an MX300?

>>59986199
>Literally nobody has had any criticisms other than
>corelet
>houssefire
>goyim
Because it's obvious bait. $2200 build for just a 7700k and gtx 1080 non-ti. Fuck off.

>>59986227
still not best build
maybe "eh build" at best

I'm looking at building a little PC for my living room to stream movies and browse the web on my 4k TV.
Too much?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/D2bnr7

I have an old E8400 Wolfdale and ATI 6950 build at my parents that I'm going to try to use, but I'm not sure it's working. In the event that it's not, I might upgrade build something like the above. Would a cheaper Sempron or A6 build be better for my needs?

>>59986245
Most people dont include speakers and peripherals in their price. Its really a riced out $1750 build. Thats not bad for fully watercooled

>>59986272
Memes aside what would you change?

>>59986241
I just double-checked my order. It's actually 3D V-NAND, which has 48 layers of flash memory (compared to the 32 of the older version) and lower power consumption.

I am currently using a GTX1080 at 2K res ultra gives pretty good frame rates.

Should I upgrade to a 1080Ti for maybe 25-30 FPS @ Ultra or wait?

>>59986443
If you want to

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2jyp4C

Need a mouse.
Need a monitor.
Have a budget of about $2,000.
The custom parts are my budget for each item.

Desired monitor: 1440p IPS. Perferably with freesync.

Desired mouse: anything big and comfortable. I used a fingertip grip but my ring and pinky finger don't have any room on smaller mice.

Need to chose the foundation for my Vega 1440p build, this is what i have so far:
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/CKZxQV
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/DYJ7qk
I already have some parts like Define R5 and Hitachi 7k1000 HDD, others like SSD don't depend on the core build, just tell me if i'm stupid if i get the X370 instead the B350.
Target is good value high-end cool'n'quiet build that i can put under my desk. Budget isn't that much limited, but i don't waste a large amount of money for no gains.
Also what about 1440p Freesync monitors? I read BenQ and Asus generally make good 1440p monitors, but some AOC has great value, but idk about AOC. It's generally not that popular here.

>>59986443
>You are satisfied.
Don't upgrade.

>You are not satisfied.
Upgrade.

Building for the first time, what should I take into consideration when picking a motherboard? Also are SSD's considered reliable? I bought one for my current build and it managed to fail within a few months.

Whats the deal with these really fast M.2 PCIe NVMe SSDs? Are they worth having? I know having a ssd makes everything really nice and fast, do these make things even snappier? What about games with loading screens, or is that mostly cpu?

>>59986500
Well I think 1440p freesync ips gives you like 4 choices. I forget what they are, though.
AMD's website is actually outdated for Freesync monitors. You have to google around a bit.

>>59986508
Whichever way you go, get the cooler, assuming it's AM4 compatible. You won't get as good of an OC on the stock one. And it'll still be a cooler to use if you get zen2/3/4.

>>59986399
Don't respond to him. People have pointed out problems with his build many times for weeks. He keeps spamming the same bait.

>>59986658
>Also are SSD's considered reliable
Good ones, yes.

>what should I take into consideration when picking a motherboard
For an i7:
4 phases minimum for stock. 8 minimum for OC. And a heatsink.
For Ryzen:
4 phases for either stock or OC, with a heatsink, minimum. Can get away with 3 if using a down-blower.
For an 8 core, if you want a crazy OC, probably 5-6 phases minimum.

Besides that, you pick the one with features you want.

>>59986674
>NVMe SSDs? Are they worth having?
read the fucking OP.

>>59986718
>People have pointed out problems with his build many times for weeks. He keeps spamming the same bait.
Literally have yet to hear any non-meme criticism
>corelet
>housefire
I get it this board is on AMDs dick. However i have said many times ill be mostly doing single threaded tasks

>>59986718
Im just as annoyed by the spam as you but there arnt any "problems" with his build. Hes blowing money on aesthetics that i personally would never do but who the fuck cares

>>59986839
I care. Its a fucking waste of money. Only an aspie would throw money away on goofy shit like that and brag about it

>>59986877
The rice shit is like $150. Who cares. Not all of us are neetfags. Thats like the price of one nice dinner date. Not that youd know how much those cost

>>59986911
If you actually had money and dinner dates you wouldn't be asking for help on building a lego brickhouse on a taiwanese cartoon board.
>b-but I do I and I-I'm not the same guy
yeah whatever makes you feel better about yourself

Is MSI a good choice for gpus?Especially the rx 570

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1800X $420 4/20 sale with free shipping and no tax outside of CA.
http://www.frys.com/product/9099607

You have to sign up for their promocode emails at the top-right of the site. They email you a promocode to apply for the discount at checkout.

>$5 mouse
>suddenly shoots off to the right a bit while I'm holding still and left clicking
>lags going up and down; no consistency in movement speed

Goddamn UPS guy with my new gaming mouse that's supposed to arrive today, hurry up and get here, fuck.

German anons. Where do you look out for hardware deals? Other than Geizhals.de.

>>59986987
Mydealz.de, Geizhals.de, Billiger.de, Idealo.de, Mindfactory.de, that's pretty much all sites i use to compare prices and buy. Sometimes i use Caseking.de and Amazon too if i can't find something on other sites.

>>59986960
>4chan isnt for normies XXXXDDD
lol. I didnt expect any other response from you faggots

Currently deciding between the Gigabyte Aorus RX 580 4GB (https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gyNypg/gigabyte-radeon-rx-580-4gb-aorus-4g-video-card-gv-rx580aorus-4gdl) and the Sapphire Pulse RX 580 4GB (https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PWs8TW/sapphire-radeon-rx-580-4gb-pulse-video-card-11265-09)

Which should I get?

>>59987077
Sapphire, it's quieter this time.

>>59987077
I'd just get the 570 for a 4GB card. It's all you need for 1080p. Just save the extra money.
580 8GB for 1440p.
Or get a good RX480 8GB if it's the same price as the 570 4GB.

>>59986244
Check if it's 3D NAND, uses MLC and not TLC or at least a not so crippled version of TLC, and look at what it's using for a controller.
Then compare it to the MX300.

>>59987133
>I need help deciding between these two things
>just choose this entirely unrelated thing!
Fuck off. The 580 4gb has higher clocks than the 570 anyways.

I have a hp zbook 15 which is like 3 years old now. but I would like to upgrade my Quadro 2100M which has the MXM-A interface I think. what are my options?

>>59986979

Oh shit, I didn't hear it arrive.

Question: What is this metal thing that says "10g" on it? The only thing that I can find is instructions to place it inside the mouse. Is it just there to make the mouse heavier for people who prefer that?

>>59987210
Yes. 10g stands for 10 grams you brainlet.

I need some help troubleshooting my graphics card.

my motherboard (ga-z170x-ud5) has two options in its bios. One that tells the computer to look at Pcie Slot 1 and use its display adapter if available and the other option is to Disable the Onboard Graphics. the first Option lets me decide if i want the computer to look at Pcie slot 1,2,3, or Onboard Graphics.

When I plug in my GPU, with Priority to Pcie Slot 1 and onboard graphics on my screens stay black. the Screen doesnt even turn on when receiving output from the Motherboard, the screen turns on and stay black when receiving output from the gpu.

When I plug in my Gpu, with Priority to OnboardGraphics and onboard graphics on my computer turns on normally, but only the screen receiving output from the motherboard turns on. the Screen receiving output from the GPU doesnt turn on.

(took over 8 hours to figure that out)

once i got my computer on and check device manager, it had a Yellow Triangle over it in the display adaptor section, but it was named "microsoft display adaptor." I went to Nvidia's driver page and installed the Gtx1080 drivers for the Zotac Gtx1080 Amp Edition and once they were installed on the computer the name changed to "Nvidia Geforce gtx 1080," but the Yellow Triangle remains.

when i click on the gtx1080 in device manager its device status is "Windows has stopped this device because it has reported problems. (Code 43)"

What should I try from here.

>>59987174
Alright fair enough.
I haven't seen a good review of the Aorus.
Gigabyte RX400s sucked ass, but they were supposed to improve a lot and their Aorus line is supposed to be much better.
Without seeing a good review that goes over noise, overclockability, etc, I'd go with the Sapphire.

>>59987282
Are you using two monitors or something.

>>59987312
yes.
DVI-D from Motherboard
HDMI from GPU

what do you have in mind.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/RH7YzM
Current build, thinking about upgrading to AMD ryzen and rx480/rx580 but im reading so much shit.

Anyone able to to come up with a suggestion for a upgrade? Mainly gaming at 1080p 60 fps+.

Is this build ok? I have an idea how far this build could go in terms of gaming, but I'm more concerned about efficiency/compatibility.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KKKHD8

>>59987407
You really don't need an R7. I would get higher frequency RAM as well.

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Am I doing good, senpai ?

>>59987484
There's 2 1080s on sale around $450 right now. I forget which 2.
Also get a semi-modular PSU that's not shit when you're spending so much on other components.
And why not 1440p?

>>59987484
You should really get an SSD and a bigger case.

>>59987484
Build seems bretty gud but like >>59987504 said get a better PSU and an SSD for that kind of money, also i've heard that Ryzen's run better with faster RAM, so I'd go with 3200 but other anons might know more about that than me

>>59987484
define s is $20 cheaper and bigger

>>59987439
>You really don't need an R7
Why? Besides, I'm interested in longevity as well. Shouldn't an R7 last for +5 years even for non-gaming uses?

>>59987210

Dat smoothness. This is definitely what I paid for.

>>59987351
Windows 10?

>>59987566
Ryzen is only good for productivity at that price range. Either get an i7 or go R5. An 1600 should serve just good for 5+ years.

>>59987573
yes. Windows 10 Pro and got the Creators update 2 days ago.

>>59987504

I'll look for the 1080s and I'll see about the PSU. How exactly do I identify a shitty PSU ? Bronze rating isn't enough ?

I want to go for 1080p 144Hz since I'd like to think it's more "future proof" (pushing 1440p will be a lot harder for the CPU/GPU than pushing 1080p in a couple of years) and mainly because I'm playing a lot of old pc games (1990 onwards) and emulators, besides AAA titles, which wouldn't be able run on nearly as good or at all at 1440p as they would on 1080p.On the other hand, they will be able run prettier in general (1080p will look like shit on a 27inch 1440p display) a lot smoother and a lot more consistent on a 1080p 144Hz display. Also I'm just fine with 1080p.

>>59987541
>>59987560

Shit didn't realize how small this one was. I'll get the Define S. I'll search for a cheap SSD as well.

>>59987558

Wasn't that proven to be bullshit or at least insignificant ?

Does anyone here run Starcraft 2 on Ryzen? I wanted to upgrade to the 1500x from my Phenom ll but there are no benchmarks.

>>59987618
Did it work prior to Creator's update? If so roll back to a previous version of windows.
Only other thing I can think of doing is removing all but onboard graphics using DDU, making sure the fucking hdmi/dvi CABLES are connected in the right ports, hdmi to mobo, dvi to gpu, and then reinstalling the Nvidia driver.

>>59987558
>>59987652
I've read 2666MHz Dual Ranked only causes your system to be 3% slower than 3200MHz Single Ranked. For large MHz Dual Ranked is pretty uncommon as far as I know. Unfortunately RAM producers don't mention on their websites if their RAM sticks are single or dual ranked.

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>want to build a portable itx G4560 for werk purposes since its just 50€ in the europes
>itx is smaller so it have less features and less production cost
>yet is way more expensive than a full mobo with the same chipset
>muh LE GAIMING plastered into everything

What the fucking shit

>>59987074
what
good strawman bruh

I want to build a PC for 1080p so I have something to play with and I plan on upgrading my gpu and CPU in the next year or two. Should I go with the G4560 or is it worth it to get a 1500x even though I plan on replacing it?

>>59987875
Source if anyone cars.
https://www.computerbase.de/2017-04/amd-ryzen-ram/

>>59987919
If you get a 1500X you won't be replacing that until 3rd generation of Zen, maybe not even. It's Ivy Bridge tier single thread perf + ridiculously good multi thread perf.

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>ryzen 7 1700 vs ryzen 5 1600
Man the differences seem so fucking minimal to the untrained eye. Main goal is gaming, I don't know which one would get me better performance.

does anything speak against buying used? I thought about picking up on ebay:
15€ psu corsair
20€ 1TB Hdd
150€ i2500k/mobo/8Gb DDr3 ram bundle
130€ rx 480 4 gb
20 € case
which totals at around 335 bucks and should bring me some good 1080p performance.
Dont really have a better budget and thought I would build a cheap bang/buck pc for the next 6 months till my budgets back on track for a new buld at around 800€.
Is this a good plan? would be my first build so Im not sure.

>>59987952
the difference is two fucking cores but just get the 1600 because you don't have the brain power required to do anything that'd fully utilize those extra cores.

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>>59987952
oy vey goy 8 cores? what do you need 4 cores for? 2 cores is all you need

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RnymvV

My first attempt at a build... it's cheaper on amazon right now to go for the 6600k than a ryzen 5 1600k. I don't know for sure if I will overclock but I want the option. I do plan down the line to add a second 480.

I have an old Dell case that I'm going to shove it all in. Maybe an optical drive later on, doesn't matter too much.

Opinions? Total on amazon for me is 669. I'm hesitant but I want to be able to gaym

>>59987944
I'll save up for a good CPU then which CPU would you recommend for games at 1440/ maybe 4K, 1600,1600x,or 1700x?

>>59988119
Any Ryzen ending in X. That shit can overclock itself.

http://blog.sec-consult.com/2017/04/application-whitelisting-application.html
MY FUCKING SIDES

>>59987864
i got the gpu after the creators update.

This might be a stupid question, but what's the best method to apply thermal compound to a Ryzen CPU?
I usually use the dot method, but since the heatspreader and die of a Ryzen CPU are a lot bigger compared to an Intel CPU i'm not sure if the dot method is still the best.

>>59988167
grain of rice / tiny x

>>59988167
swastika method

>>59988167
I trust this guy's method.
https://youtu.be/P0oyG5Z55KM

>>59988048
You want dual channel RAM, a non-reference design for your GPU (the XFX GTR is fantastic), an HHD if you can, and at least gold rating for your PSU

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help me to improve my upgrade.

>>59988048
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QdWGRG

Fixed it for you.

>>59988222
>Hyper 212
worst meme cooler, get bequiet!, Noctua or Cryorig
>buying an i5 krabby
No.

>>59987952
intel+nvidia best for gaming
ryzen+nvidia best for gaming+streaming

>>59988222
Get Ryzen. Only go Intel for budget builds or an i7.

>>59987969
someone answer please... my plan is to sell the rig after these 6 months

>>59988266
don't buy used HDDs
don't buy used PSUs either

Anon with really bad memory ( >>59981115 ) reporting.
At 1.4V computer does not boot, even the memory settings autorecovery system does not work, had to reset cmos.
All subsequent testing done at 1866-16-18-18-1.35V. Yes, fucking 1866.

y-cruncher (all tests enabled) seems to be the reliable way to initiate bsod chain, with at most two minutes from finishing memory allocation to crash. Thanks again for suggesting it. After the first bsod system goes unstable for 10-15 minutes with 2-3 bsods/reboots during boot or within a minute from logon (including windows installer / winpe / live linux, so it's not drivers) and subsequent bsods on any cpu stress.
OCCT did not crash in 2 hours of PSU mode.

Running individual tests in y-cruncher now. All except NTT going for 30 minutes so far.

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I can't help but feel that the door on my Define R5 is completely starving the two Arctic F12s that I have in the front of air.
Testing with a very thin piece of toilet paper, even on 50% speed they can't get enough air to provide a nice flow all the way through the computer when the door is closed, and cranking up the speed does jack shit.
The problem is immediately removed if I have the door open, but that makes the thing look like a turd.

This is all rather disappointing since I was told that the side slits were adequate for a good flow on their own.

Verdict: don't buy this case if you care about good airflow.

>>59988330
You can remove the door you know.

>>59988353
I know, but that's not really a satisfying solution.

>>59988428
Get fans with much higher static pressure. And if you're using the manual 3V-5V-12V switch, set it to 12V.

>>59988315
>>59981237
> I suggest trying y-cruncher, especially the NTT tests.
Well now I do have a way to get instant guaranteed bsod, but what does it mean?
I still have neither a spare psu nor ram to test.

would you pay like 10 bucks more for a gpu with the zero fan mode?

https://geizhals.de/?cmp=1610160&cmp=1610148

>>59988791
Absolutely, zero rpm mode is great.
Less noise and dust buildup

Is the CM Storm Trooper a meme or is it good?
My build would be using a Deepcool Tesseract SW for $65, but I have an opportunity to get the Trooper for $80, is the $15 difference worth copping?
(Yeah its a $220 case but the guy could be lying about the wear and tear and the temps might not be that much better, i don't really care about how it looks)
The guy selling:
https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/mariginiup/components/black-pc-case-retail-200-cm-storm-trooper/1141702841

>>59988791
aren't all sapphires do that now?
my 390 nitro from 2015 keeps fans off at idle

>>59988791
>>59989114
also yes, it is very useful feature

>>59989114
Not all of them. Sapphire sells a 570 that is from the pulse line that has NO zero fan modus while the nitro line has a zero fan modus.

>>59988330
how the heck do you measure airflow?
besides inside temps
are you putting toilet paper on the back of the case? or on the front slits?
because i can tell you, I have stock fans and it works pretty well on the back

Just got a GTX 1080 Gaming X 8G for 380. Good choice?

>>59989130
>>59989114
see

https://geizhals.de/?cmp=1610160&cmp=1610161&cmp=1610159

Look at "Besonderheiten"

>>59989150
if you spend sometime without headphones/sound idling gpu it is a good feature worth $10

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what are some good white mid towers, you anons have experience with?
this one look ok, and under 100 usd.

>>59985946
>curved panel
What's the actual benefit to this? I almost picked it up before but didn't want it to be distracting or have some drawback a standard flatscreen doesn't have.

>>59989200

The Define R5 comes in white iirc.

>>59989200
>>59989266
also nzxt 440 is okay
R5 is the best case I owned though

>>59989266
thanks, was looking at a cube from fractal design, but after deciding against go in that form factor, forgot to check their cases again. might just go with that one then.
>>59989314
that nzxt was the one that was in my cart waiting actually, are the fans on the R5 good enough, or should I switch them out?

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First build, Did I do good guys?
ryzen 1800

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>>59989172
I'm measuring it from there.
If the door is open, the air will happily go all the way through the whole case, if it's closed it doesn't, no matter what the fan speed is.

>>59989369
just checked with pretty thick note paper

stock fans on min, no difference between open and closed door, pushes that paper about 30 degrees from the fan 1 cm away
maybe f12 suck for this case

>>59989175
For 380 i bet it is used.
Yeah, its ok

>>59989032
Help a poorfag out out /g/ I just want a cool case

>>59989438
It's been used for 2 months, warranty added. Had a GTX570 before so I guess it's a huge upgrade

>>59989461
you'd be safer with corsair 200R

>>59989349

>are the fans on the R5 good enough, or should I switch them out?

They're alright. They mainly are focused on low noise so they don't push too much air. It really depends on what you are going to be cooling - if you are only using a handful of drives (i.e can remove the top drive cage) and your typical 100w cpu along with a <200w gpu they will suffice.

>>59989436

Such imprecise measuring doesn't lend itself well. If you had really high rpm fans it is more obvious.

>>59989505
>Such imprecise measuring doesn't lend itself well
the guy started toilet paper measurement, not me, i just tried to confirm his results

I'm heavily traumatized because of slow hard drive speeds so I was planning to get the M.2 Samsung 960 Evo with 250GB but something tells me I should use the money to get the Samsung 850Evo SATA SSD with 500GB instead. It's either more speed or more space. What should I do?

>>59989436
I guess they really must suck then if I'm getting such a drastic difference.

>>59989540
its really hard to notice above 400mb/s read speeds,unless you know why exactly you need those 1.5Gb/s, it starts to bottleneck in other places for normal use
no m2 doesn't load games faster than normal ssd

>>59989505
should be 4 drives, two spinning disk, two ssds, a r7 1700, and a rx 480.
might just get some fans just in case

>>59989613
Nice, thanks for your help. I guess I will take the SATA SSD then. I can still use that M.2 slot later when those things become cheaper.

fuck this ram shit, the sticks i'm getting just went up 20 dollars in two days
when will it end?

Anyone have any idea when the InWin 301 comes out? It's looking like my number 1 candidate for my next build

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2bQzgL

How's this look for gaming and also video editing?
I have more storage in my current computer, i'm only adding an SSD now.

>>59989790

Do you need x370?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qFBDNN

Thoughts? Will be used primarily for gayming.

>>59989498
For what reasons?
The Trooper comes with 5 fans and all the space I'd need for an upgrade path, and the Tesseract is similar to the 200R but also cheaper, despite its gaudy LED shit.

>>59983716
Is this the best build possible for $400?
will it rape a PS4 Pro?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4qLrf8

The incompatibility comes from the bios, which whould be fixed with an update.

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Guys, is pic related acceptable? Constructive criticism that a noob can understand, please

>>59989833
I figured it would be better to help render/edit videos plus it's the nicest and cheapest x370 board I'd prefer to buy, next to that Biostar one.

>>59990247
>is pic related acceptable?
Yes.

But we need to know the price, to seeif it's more expensive than what it shoudl be. read the OP and please build the same thing on pcpartpicker.com and compare the prices.

>>59990312
It's 1650 British bongs. Yeah I know I'm sorry my laptop died so using pc part picker is a bitch on a phone

>>59990247
The BIOS update requires a non-Kaby Lake cpu to do, so I hope you have one lying around or can borrow one.
I'd change your RAM to a faster clock speed, even 2300 will make a difference and won't cost much more.
The 1050 ti is not recommended in the OP for a reason, its just not good enough for the price point it asks, wait for the 470 to drop down because of the 500 series release and get that.
AFAIK the PS4 Pro is on equal terms with a 470, don't know about its CPU though.

>>59990266

>figured it would be better to help render/edit videos

It does nothing other than rpovide better I/O.

> plus it's the nicest and cheapest x370 board I'd prefer to buy

I can't argue the preference, but realistically only reason to get x370 is for any of the following-

1) to-the-limit overclocking
2) shitloads of sata for drives
3) crossfire/sli

The only one that would remotely apply would be number 2 (and its a reason I went x370 - I have 8 hard drives in use).

>>59990338
meant for
>>59990175

>>59990338

>don't know about its CPU though.

There never was an 8 core desktop chip based on the jaguar core iirc, but you're looking at more IPC than vishera but less than kaveri. That is still way, way behind ryzen and anything Intel has made in the last few years.

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>everyone says ryzen stock cooler is mediocre and should move on to an aftermarket cooler
>tfw it is actually amazing

Holy fucking shit. This thing is great. It's pretty much an aesthetic version of the 212 EVO.

>>59990454
cool anon, still wasn't sure about getting it or not, i like my current 212 evo

>>59990454

It just doesn't handle 16 threads at nearly 4ghz, which is why the 1700x and 1800x don't come with it.

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should I kill myself?

>>59990502
Well worth using the stock one. Was blown away at how good it was. Forgot to mention how freakishly quiet it is also.

>>59990553
yeah, getting the 1700 then. don't think i'll overclock it yet, even though i'll get a pricier mb so i can stick with it for a few years.

>>59990547
rope it

Laptop is old and shitty. My bro gave me his old gtx970 so I've started buying parts and found that my sister had an old dell tower laying around that had win7. From reading around I've heard that MS will allow me to activate the same key if I call and just say I'm installing a new mobo; has anyone done this recently? Is it that simple?

>>59990341
>shitloads of sata for drives

well there you go then, i do have a lot of personal storage plus video files can get pretty big.

All these retards, what is this, a stupid questions thread?

What are the pros/cons of hooking up my pc to my 55" 4k tv?

I'll be building a pc with ryzen 5 and rx 580 and dont have a monitor for now. I'll be mostly gaming.

>>59990665
check the display latency on your TV, if it's more than 5ms you're fucked

>>59990665
It's dumb.

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This is for work. Will throw an optical in there I have just for incase someone hands me an optical disk and I have a video card lying around. Seems like the best I could get out of the current chips. The memory is a premium but its got 3200 out of the box was made for ryzen and has that low latency. Could tighten up with some cheaper memory but I wanted to try it out.

Any thoughts ideas? Probably will build two of them dropping the second to a 1600 or something in the r5 range without a x on it.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FV7PHN

>>59990752
You need a GPU and that RAM is overpriced.

>>59990752

I also have AIO coolers lying around for when I feel like overclocking that CPU. All the value kind of people reviewing these say get the non x parts and oc.

>>59990804
Ya it is but I am really curious about what performance I can get with it. As I said its 3200 low timings and made for ryzen.

Could save 60 bucks though if I dropped down on it.

Also have GPUs around already. OP says nvidia cards have problems on ryzen how bad is that?

>>59990752
g skill ripjaw 3200 ddr4 costs around 130 bucks

>>59990877

With higher timings though if I drop it down that is what Ill be looking at.

>>59990338
Oh shit, does it REALLY need a non Kaby?
Crap

Well, do all other chipsets require the update?

I want to build a HTPC, what would you recommend?

>>59990749
not him but why is that?

>>59984555
get a card wifi
and a 120hz monitor
get a 1x 8GB stick, so in future can get second 8GB

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So I have this GPU, and right below, almost touching it, some sound card. That sound card is roughly half the size of the GPU.

Since the sound card is sort of "blocking" part of each fan (the GPU has two), is airflow going to be shitty enough that it'd be more convenient for me to just take that sound card away?

Pic related, GPU model not related

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>use meme pcpartpicker for best prices
>order from 4 different sites
>Amazon, newegg and jet here in 2-3 days
>super biiz still processing my motherboard

Yeah I shouldn't have been a cheapskate desu

>>59985240
R5 1600 and RX 580 but that probably exceeds ur budget after u add everything else

>>59990247
>phoneposter
>locked i7
>1060
>Corsair PSU
>RGB LED strip
>paying for Winkek 10
Checks out.

>>59990752
>>59990877
>>59990909

The more Im looking at reviews of memory the less that 16 to 14 memory timing difference seems to matter. Ill likely be picking up that ripjaw instead.

>>59991146
Just buy an external thing. Those are better anyway.

>>59991650
Nah, I just tried taking it out and it ain't improving shit.

Oh well.

>>59983716
what's the best case for 10+ hard drives?

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/pny-anarchy-2-pack-8gb-pc4-19200-ddr4-dimm-desktop-memory-kit-blue/4842608.p?skuId=4842608

How decent is this? I have to get new RAM and I'm considering just running to best buy rather than waiting for something to ship.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/43Mp4C
Primary purpose is video editing. 1050ti was given, not purchased.

>>59990971
This is what I'm looking at: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sdhPHN

This warehouse sale close to me is selling off thin clients for ten bucks.

What can I do with a thin client?

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/d27DFd

First time Build, am Canadian. Looking semi-casual gaming Computer with decent graphics and the like. Thoughts?

any1 got insider info on when microcenter restocks? asking 4 a fiend

/pcbg/ help me out
>budget 400
>need case+mobo+cpu, preferably ddr3 compatible (cuz i have a lot of ddr3 sticks) but if not, i'll get whatever the mobo needs
>ideally supports 5+ sata hdds
>graphics card optional
>need it to last years
also need it in the next month or so, so if i need to wait +2 weeks i can

>>59992465
400 what? gold coins?

>>59992490
USD you dumb person. It's the currency of the world.

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>>59992490
>yes, bones, or clams, or whatever you call them
dollars

>>59992465
g4560
b250m
evga 430w
cheapest 8gb ddr4 on offer
should have enough for a rx470

this is the cheapest new budget setup going right now

Anyone use Nixeus mice? Any good?

>>59992490
400 american wheat pennies

>>59991063
input lag

>>59990750
Its fine unless youre a professional csgo player

>>59992771
How do i check that? Just google the serial number?

>>59992465
>>59992560
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RvMp4C
500$ so far
help me save some $
i prefer quad core w/hyper if possible, and need full atx with tons of sata
had to add ram cuz ddr4

>>59991518
Just make sure you're getting Samsung B-die, senpai
Most of the higher latency G.Skill sticks are E-die.

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I'm having a problem connecting the 24-pin power connector of my Corsair TX750 to my z77.

I was fixing the "cable management" dumb teenager me did five years ago and unplugging the damn thing took me 15 minutes of finagling it with a flathead. Now I'm trying to plug it back in and it'll slide in about 1/2 a centimeter into the socket but won't make a solid connection.

What the fuck do I do? I've been trying to wiggle it in for twenty minutes and I don't want to force anything.

>>59993149
That should be a non-issue next month, right?

>>59993185
Looks like you beat the shit out of the connection with your screwdriver.

>>59993219
Yes, I fucked it up pretty badly with the screwdriver. I had to use it as a crowbar basically. It wouldn't come out any other way.

Is it done for now?

Maybe this is peobably the best place to ask this.
I found a pc in a pawn shop, it has an i3, 8gb ram and a decent gpu (I dont remember exactly really) for 150 bucks, is there a risk to buy it?
The guys lets me test it for a week, what should I check during that time?

>>59993259
Lol time to buy another m8

>>59993267
I'm a good boyim anyway so it doesn't matter. If it's fucked then I'll deal with it.

>>59990752
Protip: the Define C doesn't have any bays for an optical drive.

... unless you're using an external drive, in which case disregard this post.

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is there a lower priced cpu compatible with this setup that is quad core? or maybe cheaper psu/ram? the board is the only thing that seems solid for what i need >>59993024

>>59993260
There's always a risk with used shit but if it's like an Optiplex 7010 or some other pre-built, it's probably lightly used from a business. Get us some pictures

>>59993440
total w/o rebates is 535$

>>59993440
What are you planning to use the system for? Id get a cheaper psu desu, do you really need modular?

>>59993476
upgrading from existing (dying) server/main pc
have several sata drives, multiple usb devices that need power, and lots of compiling
no gaming/video editing/music or such other high load/high graphics, but i do enjoy 1080p x264/5
mainly I want to replace the long lasting gigabit ga-p45/intel q6600 combo i've had for 7+ years (which is starting to go)
my current case also needs replacing or i'd keep it
psu i currently have is 500watt modular, dont think that's enough to power everything anymore

i'm looking for longevity/performance over latest/greatest

>>59987652
>I'll look for the 1080s and I'll see about the PSU. How exactly do I identify a shitty PSU ? Bronze rating isn't enough ?
No, the model and the manufacturer that corsair has make those.

Avoid Corsair and EVGA low end models. They changed manufacturers last year and are pretty junk now.
Go read reviews to find a good one around $50-$70.

>>59987782
lol. Yes, it's fine. It will generally perform at least a bit better than a stock clocked 4770k which runs SC2 fine.
You got way caught up into its "single core performance is bad" memes. It's just slightly behind the best of Intel there.

>>59990454
eh. It depends on what you think of good or mediocre.
I think most of us think the 212Evo is mediocre.
Yes, the stock cooler is basically a 212Evo that doesn't spin up as high. It's as good as it is on a medium fan and quiet load. It just doesn't get loud as fuck to cool more than that.

For a stock cooler, it's fantastic. Easily worth $20. But most people would rather use a $35-$60 cooler for that 4+GHz. That makes it "mediocre" whereas Intel's as "shit".

>>59993442
Its an optiplex, actually. 3020 if I remember correctly.

>>59992174
Looks good.

>>59992465
>>59993024
I think 4 SATA is the most you can get in that budget for something new.
I don't think a Pentium G and B250 or even Z270 with a Pentium G will support that many SATA.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

>>59993440
Yes get a 1500X with a $70 B350 board.
Then you have something faster and cheaper. What do you specifically need a shit CPU like that for?

new thread

>>59993389

>>59984006
My 1600 is also hovering around 40°C but I also don't have ac right now so ambient temps are around 75°F.

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I got a 1080 Ti today but this shit uses 2 of the 8 pin connectors. How the fuck do I hook this shit up?

Guys I need your input. How is the 1080 ti Pny founders? This guy is giving me a very good deal on one sealed.