Fuck this guy

Hello, I am a computer science student currently studying data compression, and I've taken the liberty of running your post through an algorithm I've developed. Here's the output:

>I'm retarded

No need to thank me :)

>>59973176

>state of stallman defenders

Free = free as in freedom.

You can still put a price tag on it

Linux is also heavily reliant upon its community. The ubuntu developers are paid but I haven't really read into it

>I can't stand this marxist piece of shit. He's your typical academic faggot. No consideration for anyone's pragmatic issues or reality, wants to just argue about semantics he defined himself and if you don't follow his semantics he erupts like a man child.

this 100% so much so many time 100% always every single time

as soon as someone says something contrary to what he's saying he goes into full manchild mode

>>59973176
Lmfao

>>59973294

Go outside to you car and leave the keys on the hood, put a sign that says "Free (optional $10,000)". Leave the car running. Let me know what happens

>>59973313
He likes to use the injusticessssss

>>59973340
>car analogy
Let's keep this grounded in reality: you talk about paying developers for their labor, but check this out:>>59973340
>car analogy
Let's keep this grounded in reality: you talk about paying developers for their labor, but check this out:>>59973340
>car analogy
Let's keep this grounded in reality: you talk about paying developers for their labor, but check this out:>>59973340
>car analogy
Let's keep this grounded in reality: you talk about paying developers for their labor, but check this out:>>59973340
>car analogy
Let's keep this grounded in reality: you talk about paying developers for their labor, but check this out:>>59973340
>car analogy
Let's keep this grounded in reality: you talk about paying developers for their labor, but check this out:>>59973340
>car analogy
Let's keep this grounded in reality: you talk about paying developers for their labor, but check this out:>>59973340
>car analogy
Let's keep this grounded in reality: you talk about paying developers for their labor, but check this out:>>59973340
>car analogy
Let's keep this grounded in reality: you talk about paying developers for their labor, but check this out:>>59973340
>car analogy
Let's keep this grounded in reality: you talk about paying developers for their labor, but check this out:

Look at that, I just made 10 identical copies. Virtually no labor was expended. Am I getting paid to do that?
If anything, I should be paid for the labor of writing the first instance, not for every copy I make.

>>59973145
>begging
>marxist
>argue about semantics
You really don't know who Richard Stallman is, or what he represents.

>>59973415

Why would I pay you for your labor of creating useless shit?

>>59973145

You really think we don't need a voice like his in this day and age?

>>59973436

>you aren't using my words
>you're wrong
>end of argument

k

>>59973468

is that a question or an argument? Nobody can really tell with you socialist fucks you never make any points you just virtue signal and appeal to authority.

>>59973145
The FSF should really get rid of him, or at least stop paying him to go around being a massive dickhead.

>>59973453
Why would you pay me for "labor" any retard can do?

>>59973468
WHY would we need it you flaming faggot

>>59973145
>Hey I wish to cucked, why don't others like it?
This is OP.

>>59973340
If you wanna do a car analogy then here's one for you friendo. Imagine a world where you aren't given access to what's underneath the hood of your vehicle. You can't fix it yourself or modify it in anyway. Now for some people(women) that's fine, but for the rest of us we'd like the option to work on our own shit. Why? Because we don't wanna gargle corporate cum like you.

>>59973145
>For everything else you need to give people $$$ as an incentive to improve software.
The GNU license doesn't stop that. The license is about software freedom. Not "free" as in price.

>>59973145
Are you saying that java is good?
If you please remove yourself from this planet,that shit has caused so much headaches that I want to kill the fagot that invented the thing.

>>59973597
>Hey I'm too retarded to build an argument but I'll post anyway
This is you

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Oh look, it's yet another RMS hate thread!

>>59973145
>He's your typical academic faggot
Citation needed.

t.Academic.

>>59973145
>rms
>Open Source
pick one

>>59973682
>hey I'm too retarded to google this shit that has been repeated millions of times and discussed to death already, so I'll blame the others who are tired of cucks like me shitting up their board.
You don't even fucking program, you dumb consumerist cuck. Why the hell do you care?

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>>59973145
> S T O P L I K I N G S T U F F I D O N ' T L I K E

>>59973145
>doesn't want to pay programmers for their labor
He does want programmers to be paid for their labor.

Do you know how many times he wants them to be paid?
Once.
One payment for one finished job.

>>59973313
Stallman doesn't interject because he wants credit for his ego, he interjects because calling the system Linux makes people think that Linux is more than a kernel. It makes people think the whole system is Linux, made by Linus Torvalds, who doesn't give a shit about freedom.
All RMS wants when he interjects is making people aware of the orgin of the system they are using.

>>59973145
OP, you really should visit one of his speeches or watch a video recording to fully understand what he's about.

>>59973764
>install mingw
>uninstall entire rest of windows userspace
>use mingw to build apt as an exe
>use apt to install gnome
>gnu/nt
>still call it linux
>problem

>>59973436
What he represents is long dead, he should follow suit

>>59973145

Already made that for him last weekend.

0xbeef.coffee/downloads/mickyd/mickyd.tar.gz

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>>59973818
>What he represents is long dead

>>59973759
Which is exactly how it works in most corporations nowadays.
The programmers get paid for their work, and the corporation produces copies and sells them.

>>59973807

yeah, there is a problem. You are running malware.

>>59973807
You're missing the point. GNU with Solaris, GNU with kFreeBSD, GNU with whatever else isn't Linux either, but that isn't the point. The point is that we're talking about the combination of GNU and Linux and its distributions.

>>59973764
If Linus doesn't give a shit why is he using the GPL?
Why not MIT, or BSD?
Because he cares obviously.

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>>59973871
If linus doesn't give a shit, why does he insult the FSF whenever he can? Why didn't he uplevel to GPLv3? Why does Linux.com shill for nonfree software? Why does he add nonfree blobs into the kernel?

>>59973850
>and the corporation produces copies and sells them
Yeah but this part is wrong. Copies of software should be gratis, because if they cost money, that money has to go somewhere, and no one it could possibly go to has done anything to deserve it.

>>59973721
>>This shit has been repeated a thousand times
>I still chose side with Stallman because I'm too retarded to see his completely derailed by now
>I'm gonna call you out as a retard instead of making a point
Well, shucks, I've been exposed as a consumerist cuck who cannot see that Stallman postures are completely oblivious of the world today and that he's a nostalgia fuck that wishes everyone was still using laminated cards he could check in his local library. All this while not actually being able to code because of the shitty editor he made.

>Why the hell do you care?
I care because Stallman default posture is his way or the highway, which doesn't work when you try to build a community unless you either choose to suck the leaders cock or are paid to do it (see the kernel dev).
Stallman is always in for a free ride that doesn't make him compromise anything. E.g. loyalty cards. He won't have one but gladly use yours, he won't use non-free software on his computer but gladly user yours. Is you believe that behaviour is acceptable, well kudos. But for me it's nothing but a manchild who wants to play with Bobby toys and calls them shit while going back to his backwater cabin to play with a pile of shit that he claims is superior because he shat it himself and watched Sally shat on it contribute to it.
The FSF doesn't need this kind of people.

>>59973871
>In some ways, Linux was the project that really made the split clear between what the FSF is pushing which is very different from what open source and Linux has always been about, which is more of a technical superiority instead of a -- this religious belief in freedom."
>-- Linus Torvalds

>>59973899
That's the point I'm implicitly making.
The system is fucked.

>>59973918
>open source is technical superior to free software
ebin brainwashing

>>59973893
>serious risks to the preservation of proprietary software rights

I'm triggered

>>59973871

He considers Expat (MIT) and (modified) BSD licensed programs to be free software.

They are whitelisted by LibreJS.

He doesn't like them as much as the GPLs though because if the proprietary licenses get to fuck us over as much as they do he thinks GNU/FSF should leverage the power of their own license

>>59973980
that article was deleted of linux.com because many people got triggered, kek
archived here: https://archive.fo/sE6eb

>>59973916
>posture
Which country are you from?
You sound like a tard. Are you a (don't)poo-in-the-loo?

Also what the fuck are you talking about?
You know nearly nothing about the man and what he stands for, but still start to shittalk him?
Inform yourself. Its painfully obvious that you have the mentality of a 12 year old.

>oblivious of the world today
His teachings are more relevant than ever in history.
You are basically retarded.

>>59974015
>Still no arguments
sure thing buddy

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>>59973145
>I can't stand this marxist piece of shit
The Marxist booyman strikes again!

>this image triggers /pol/ users

>>59973340
>keys on the hood
>Leave the car running
Damn, proprietary world must be fun to live in.

>>59973176
Yea u are ;)

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>>59973918
The philosophy of open source, with its purely practical values, impedes understanding of the deeper ideas of free software; it brings many people into our community, but does not teach them to defend it.

>>59974028
Not that anon but the free software movement has been around for over 33 years. People get tired of repeating the same tired arguments over and over again for decades to people who probably weren't born yet when free software took off.

>>59973868
I know. And the point I'm making, is that not only is the combination of GNU and Linux effectively just Linux, so is the combination of GNU and anything else, even if the isn't involved in any way. It's just the way things have turned out: "Linux" means GNU now, not Linux. No amount of language policing will ever change that.

In fact, the name "Linux" is so very synonymous with GNU, that when people combine the Linux kernel with OTHER userspaces, it's NOT called Linux. Example: Android.

>>59973711
He literally contradicted himself on several occasions by complaining some softwares weren't open source.

>>59974071
Dude, this is not an argument against free software and Stallman work in the early stages is invaluable but honestly he to be put to rest now.
Before he was quite coherent and inspiring, now he just rants all over the place. He's still right, but the way he approaches issues today isn't really helping. It's time to pass the torch.

>>59974093
The expression “the Linux kernel” can easily be misunderstood as meaning “the kernel of Linux” and implying that Linux must be more than a kernel. You can avoid the possibility of this misunderstanding by saying or writing “the kernel, Linux” or “Linux, the kernel”.

>>59974028
I am not arguing anything. There is not even a purpose to this thread.
Am I supposed to argue why you should like him or what? I don't care.
You can dislike him all you want while gargling corporate cock,
but actual programmers like him because he paved the way for a world where free software has it's place.
A world where we can share, learn from, and work on interesting software without any cost.

Anyway, I am basically pointing out that you are a retard.
Which is pretty useless, since it's painfully clear already.
Now get the fuck out of /g/ you fucking pajeet.

>>59974050
Aha so you admit it then! That you're retarded!

>>59974126
When someone else as right as he is steps up, feel free to nominate them as spokesperson.

>>59974129
sure thing buddy

>>59974128
see: >>59974093

>>59973145
Free as in Freedom, not Free Beer

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The purpose of cat is to concatenate (or catenate) files. If it is only one file, concatenating it with nothing at all is a waste of time, and costs you a process.

>>59974146
I don't think it's a matter of being "as right as he is" I think it's a matter of being both charismatic and energetic to take the post and preferably someone within the ranks of the FSF, which I'm familiar with since Stallman is it's most public face.

>>59973145
>be in your 60s
>life literally stopped for you at the college level and for the last 30-40 years you've just been some autistic commie mooch living in a fantasy world

>>59974168
I'm not* familiar.

>>59974168
If you settle for someone charismatic and energetic but who doesn't see nonfree software as the crime Stallman sees it as, you've lost ground.

>>59974161
>If it is only one file,
This is impossible.

Consider:

$ cat a

How many files are being concatenated?
>one
INCORRECT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There are TWO files being concatenated here: a, and stdout!!!!!!!!!

>non-free javascript
wut lmao

>>59974169
>fantasy world
Did you read the news? Everything stallman feard became reality. Watch out of the window, NSA, CIA, FBI, botnet of things, DRM books, spying kids toys. Holy shit. Stallman was right all the way and nobody listend, they told him:
>shut up, youre some autistic commie mooch living in a fantasy world

>>59973893
>These requirements present serious risks to the preservation of proprietary software rights.
>serious risks to the preservation of proprietary software rights.
>risks to the preservation of proprietary software rights

I just got cancer

>>59974196
That's the problem right there. What use is the FSF is Stallman is the FSF? What are they gonna do when Stallman is dead? The FSF is the one taking the posture, but it needs a better public face to attract new followers.

>>59974226
>These requirements present serious risks to the preservation of proprietary software rights.

These requirements present serious risks to the preservation of proprietary software rights.
1     2            3       4       5     6  7   8            9  10          11       12

Dammit, two words short.

>>59974257
I want that script or did you align it manually?

>>59974227

I wonder if any online meme forums will take up the cause.....

>>59974269
If shitposting was a way to contribute...

>>59974219
I'm well aware of that, the fact of the matter is that he is an Asperger who never did anything except rant like a crazy person.

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>>59974322
>get up on stage
"hello ladies and gents, i only have one thing to say tonight: >tfw no gf"
>mic drop
>leave
>applause erupts

>>59974373
>who never did anything
he made free software a thing
he made the gpl a thing
he made gcc a thing
witch again made linux a thing
which again made gnu/linux systems and severs all around the world a thing

after all the work, i guess it's ok to have some rest, but does he rest? no, he's still on it, traveling around the world, still fighting for freedom, with over 60 years

>>59973145
Who is this asshole? He reminds me of this pile of shit math prof I know from a couple of the townie bars here. I gorgeous woman could offer to cook him his favorite meal, fuck him, and leave, and the tub of shit would find something to bitch about.

abadon this troll thread, here's the real thread: >>59973107

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Stallman is right for the most part, but he's also horribly uncharismatic and has a grating personality. He's like the adult version of that annoying fat weird kid that every school had. The one who smells like cat piss and BO and argued with the teacher over stupid semantic shit and always had to be right. No doubt he's extremely intelligent but he's also horrible at socializing and the average joe will immediately write him off or ignore everything he says. OP is right, it's time to pass on the torch.

>>59973675
Java was never mentioned. Please read more carefully.

>>59974213
Yeah. Most web pages have some JavaScript software that they load onto your computer and run without giving you a chance to see the source code first. Sometimes the source code is available, but often it's in a minified form which is like a binary, since it's not the preferred form for editing. And either way, there's often no license attached, making it proprietary software. Nonfree JavaScript can have hard-to-find bugs and security vulnerabilities, though the browser does sandbox it to some extent.

The browser add-on LibreJS blocks scripts that aren't marked as free software. Try browsing the web with it: a lot of stuff doesn't work without nonfree JavaScript.

As for McDonalds, what RMS is requesting would make it possible for him and others who completely reject proprietary software to use the internet in many more places.

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/javascript-trap.html

>>59973848
Have you got a point or just shitposting in lieu of one?

>>59973340
Literally not a problem if we have infinite cars, like we have infinite software.

>>59973145
>It doesn't have't be super convenient, it just has to work.

Is "have't" a word?

>>59974129
HURR DURR Y DNT U LK TEH SAEM KOKSUKR I DO REEEEE

>>59974196
Yeah, because Stallman is constantly gaining ground? Face it, no one aside from the neckyiest of neck beards on /g/ care about what he says, mostly because he's an autistic manchild who normal people can't take seriously, hence his popularity in /g/; he's just like his average fan.

So yes, someone with any sort of charm or charisma would be a massive step up, at least then average people won't dismiss him as some homeless raving lunatic

>>59974841
We don't have infinite labour though.

>>59974958
Once you pass the torch, there's no going back. If you give it to someone who doesn't care and thinks proprietary software should exist, or that open source is enough, or that noncommercial licensing is acceptable, etc. then that will be the position they push. The people who will be inspired by this person won't care about the part this new spokesperson compromised on, and the people inspired by the people inspired by this person won't, and when it comes time for this new person to pass along the torch, will they give it to someone more "radical" so that we can finish the road to freedom, or will we be stuck with this wishy-washy compromise for the rest of this movement?

>>59974958
>/g/ doesn't care
>giving a shitposting board taken over by normies any value

>>59973848
Fuck off, Jaime.

>>59973145
>People will work on what interests them. That's good for open source. For everything else you need to give people $$$ as an incentive to improve software.

It's not even paying them as an incentive to help your software but to prioritize your project over a company's

There's people that are genuinely interested but can't spare the time. If i have a family or debt or both, i'm not going to quit my $60k+ a year stable job to freely contribute a lot of work to an open source base that will pay me nothing.

Sorry the world isn't breadlines and that growing children can't live off of ramen like most devs, rms.

This is why the best FOSS projects are the ones with funding. Linux, Krita, Blender, Aseprite are like my favorites that have recieved considerable funding (idk if Aseprite recieved great funding, but i love his model for payment) . Blender is nearing a contender in the professional space, do you think that would have happened with $0 contributions? Sorry... you can't compete with millions a year Autodesk and Pixar (as far as renderer goes) on a $0 budget anytime soon. Do you think HaikuOS would be GOAT if they had money to give developers time to help on the OS? Do you think GIMP would be good if people... well... idk if gimp can be saved... but :P (actually if professionals gave GIMP good money and ideas they'd be fine)

The ideals i'm fine with, but you can't act like developers will help for free out of the goodness of their heart, not professionals\real devs. If i had a shit load of cash and didn't have to worry about shit, i'd help out FOSS more, but nope, it's a 8-5 for me writing proprietary back-end code for a site in le C#

>>59975166
>but you can't act like developers will help for free out of the goodness of their heart
What a horrible world you must living in.

>>59974388
How do you pronounce ">"

>>59975185
reality sucks a little bit... sorry people prioritize their family and sustainability over furthering FOSS out of nothing more than raw passion for the projects and the neets it supports

>>59975206
>>59975166
IMPLYING anyone or anyone's kids would die if anyone would stop developing nonfree software

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>>59973294
>>59973764
>>59973807
>>59973868
>>59973893
>>59973918
>>59974013
>>59974093
>>59974128
>>59974437
>>59975166
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux,
is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux.
Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component
of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell
utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day,
without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU
which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are
not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a
part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system
that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run.
The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself;
it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is
normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system
is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux"
distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>59975227
learn2read

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If you're not willing to accept the terms of connecting to some other place's Wifi network, then you aren't welcome on the network.

Go find a hipster coffee shop that just buys a residential ISP plan and puts it on unsecured wifi.

Stallman isn't a marxist. He is a classical libertarian.

>>59974015
>His teachings
This is bait, right?

>>59973978
You are projecting. Stop projecting.

>>59973618
You can still tinker with the software, even if you don't have the source code. That would be like the car manufacturer giving you all the blueprints.

>>59975054
When some nutjob who acts out the way rms does speaks about free software, he's instantly dismissed by anyone who isn't exactly like him. If he's replaced by someone who is like him, the cycle of ignorance will continue. If he's replaced by someone who isn't as strict as him compromises will be made, so what this I.plies, unless by some miracle someone with Steve Jobs charisma and salesmanship with rms mentality on free and propriatary software comes along, the free software movement can only decline

>>59975227
Right here, this is why you free software dickheads will never be taken seriously. Believe it or not, money doesn't grow on trees. Most normal Dec's can't work on free software if they can't adequately provide for dependents at the same time. People with an actual life outside of software don't have a lot of free time, and something you NEETs can't seem to wrap your head's around(most likely due to lack of or almost instinctive hostility towards social interaction outside of your own cancerous community) is that most people would rather spend their time with families or friends, not writing someone else's software for them for free.

>>59975323
This is why we use the term "free software" and not "open source."
You can take your car to any mechanic in the world and have them fix it when it breaks down, or when you want it to be tinkered with, etc. You can make this decision based on any number of factors, including price, quality of service, speed of service, location, etc. This is a concept known as "competition," and it's generally seen as a good thing for capitalism.
With nonfree software, can you do the same? Can you take your software to someone else, pay them money, and get service in return? By default copyright law, that is illegal. Source code has fuckall to do with it.

>>59975359
>he's instantly dismissed by anyone who isn't exactly like him.
Do you have a source for that or are you phoneposting out of your ass?
>If he's replaced by someone who isn't as strict as him compromises will be made
which is why anyone who does replace him would need to be as radical as he is, or the movement is pussified and watered down. Believe it or not, there are people who aren't wizard-tier who care about freedom as much as Stallman does, if not more.

>>59975499
Are you fucking stupid? There is no one as radical as RMS who isn't a fucking autistic freak who can't hold a room of normal, not autistic people. You freetards bitch and moan that RMS is constantly ignored and it's solely because hes a fucking ubernert with zero social skills, if he was as highly and widely regarded as people like you make him out to be, the issue of propriatary and free software wouldn't exist, average people would give a shit about their freedom, and he would be considered the second fucking coming in software. None of that has happened last time I checked

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RMS is basically a homeless loser who hasn't made any real contributions in the last 20 years. He is still super butthurt that Linux beet HURD (but hey, HURD just got basic sound support in 2016!) and basically tries to claim Linux because Linus used GCC and the GNU coreutils. He survives on the charity of others and speaking engagements where he spouts his insane, paranoid, philosophy. Basically he won't be happy until all the programmers are homeless hackers like him and all the companies are shut down. How people are supposed to support themselves and their families in that scenario aren't things he has to deal with because he is basically a permanent grad student. He does make some good points about privacy, but for him, there is no middle ground. Anything that may reduce your privacy even the slightest bit (like movie recommendations on Netflix) is evil according to him, and must be destroyed. In a lot of ways he show classic signs of mental splitting, which is a classic symptom of mental illness. To top it off, when he does write code, he does so in the style of the awful GNU style guide which is a crime against humanity IMHO.

So, in a nutshell:
He's a bird-fucking, self-absorbed, power hungry, toe jam eating pedophile that thinks everything should be free and everyone should be forced to share, who looks like he hasn't showered in years so as to create a static shield around his body to protect from aliens. He also created an OS without a kernel because he's basically Steve Jobs gone communist. Oh, and he calls himself doctor though he holds no PhD.

>>59975796
your meme is bad and you should feel bad

>>59975722
>all these unsubstantiated claims
>getting this mad on the internet

>>59973708
underrated post

>>59973807
Is it even possible to compile apt for the windows kernel?

What a time to be alive

>>59975818
If RMS was such the Messiah he's made out to be, why are people still using propriatary software? Surely he would've converted the masses after 30 odd years of spouting nonsense?

>>59973848
dumb side bar poster

>>59975862
What was said:
>some people who aren't massive neckbeards listen to Stallman
What this anon read:
>everyone loves Stallman

>>59973145
How has Stallman's influence negatively affected you in any way?

You have a whole bunch of free software thanks to him, how has he harmed you? What did he do to you?

he's a programmer he should solve it for himself. lazy fuck

>>59975888
Show me where that was said, considering it's not in the post you linked. Stop shilling RMS, he's a cliche and he'll never get the traction /g/ maintains that he will. The FSF is better off without him, if anything he is holding them back. He is now the Linux to FSFs GNU

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>current year
>still not believing that rms is the messias
it may be inconvenient, but stallman is right
people who love free software, gnu/linux systems and the worldwide community ought to know that it's his idealism and stubborness made real

>>59974268

don't wory boiiii

>>59975236
no i was just referring to linux senpai, the kernel not the OS

Y'all faggots talking like you can't get money from a free and open source project.

https://community.ardour.org/download_form
http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/income-guide/

>>59976117
linux isn't an os

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>>59973340
A car isn't the same as software dumbass.

>>59973498
He IS the FSF. Once he's dead, they're done.

>>59976702
>Richard Stallman will die in your lifetime

>>59974042
Underrated

>>59973340
Every heard of Red Hat? Your argument is invalid.

>>59973340
I did this the other day and got the 10k dollars on the mail 2 weeks later

learned interesting things about human nature