You didn't actually fall for the meme, did you?

Pricing of the i3/i5 line up just needs an improvement and a REAL IPC improvement while we're at it.
Ryzen 5 was never meant to beat an unlocked i5 in a direct apples to apples comparison in games or tasks that are heavily single threaded or don't quite make use of more than 4 cores. Any one who tries to claim otherwise is a complete retard because that much should've been obvious. But see the thing is, AMD never had to beat Intel in the IPC game because as long as AMD comes close enough at a considerably lower price, that's MORE than enough to shift people to buy from Intel to AMD.
Take a look at the i7-6900K vs the R7 1800X. The i7-6900K is a bit better in some applications and trades blows with the R7 1800X in other cases. But that minuscule difference isn't worth $500. That's where AMD is beating Intel. MOST people don't need the Quad Channel memory support or the 40 PCI-Express lanes but it's still certainly a selling point. For those people who don't care about the cost, the choice here is obvious.
That being said, Ryzen 5 is being targeted at people who do other things with their desktops. Maybe in the future 6/8 Core CPU's will be the gold standard in gaming applications, but the way I see it we're still wee bit far way from that. The way I see it, Ryzen 5 is a literally a gift from the Gods to the lower end budget streamers who don't have a garage full of cash to dump into their new gaming rig. To me that's the real purpose of Ryzen 5.
While people who purely game and don't edit pictures/videos/music or stream aren't going to be affected by the extra cores/threads on Ryzen 5 CPU's, but to those who DO it could be the difference between light and day.

Thanks for asking. Of course I bought Ryzen 1600, the deal is too sweet. I will upgrade to nextgen Ryzen 7 years later when software will catch up to the core count.

>>59965240
Bought a 1700X for the higher rated TDP envelope. I game a bit, but mostly bought it for work. I do lots of computationally intensive simulations with massive data sets. The extra threads aren't very helpful for gaming performance, but they cut down my run times to about a third of what they were. Once Naples comes out and this shit makes it to server farms, hot damn.

>>59965240
of course not

they just caught up after years, anyone with the intention of having something that's this powerful has already had that for years with intel

>>59965240
Salty Jewtel (TM) fanboy having some self doubts?

soon, my 8320 has been gud to me, but want a refresh.
shopping around for parts.

>AMD
kek, I'm waiting for my Skylake E

>>59965240
I was close to buy a R7 1700. But Instead I bought a i7 7700K and everything feels good man. I also got lucky my chip can hit stable 5.2GHz. Just saving up money for a GTX1080 Ti

>>59965240
On ivy, waiting for second iteration with all the first generation kinks ironed out.

>>59965276
didnt read lol

>>59965240
switched to the 1700 from my i5 4670, no regrets, best CPU purchase in 4 years

>>59965286
Just got my 1600 today. Need a new wireless card to fit the PCIe slot, will get that tomorrow on the way home from work and setup my new rig.

>>59965489
Stop being an idiot and use Ethernet.

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>>59965417
What ram did you go with?

I never fall for any meme since 2600k.

>>59965531
modem is in the lounge room because that's where the phone jack is. Could not be bothered setting up a router in my computer room or running a cable through the house. Any options I'm overlooking?

>>59965531
Ethernet isn't good in many places. A friend of mine got his motherboard fried twice because of a thunderstorm shock coming from the internet line, which is obviously unshielded against thunders.

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>>59965240
Buyer's remorse thread?

>>59965240
Well I predicted Zen would be trash.
Guess I was wrong.

It's not a bad choice
Buying the FX series was a horrible buy no matter how you looked at it.

I'm looking forward to the i7 6 cores that will drop eventually as a result.

i did... ryzen was a mistake

Did not fall for AMD ever.
Gonna build 7700K build in a month.

>>59965404
Enjoy shelling out 1k$ for a House fire 6 core

>>59965240
Just sold my 7700k and bought an 1700X, not worth the stutering and the housefire, Ryzen is much better and smoother even in gaming.

Wish I could stay on my Phenom ll for a year or two longer but it recently started microstuttering and the mainboard is dying too feelsbadman

I didn't buy AMD, but I am very disappointed.

>Single thread performance shit
>More expensive than Intel
>A fucking pentium has better thread performance than the 1800x

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>>59965550
>17 clocks

>>59965240
Yeah I switched to Ryzen since the i5 is obsolete now

>>59965240

The 1600 is the best deal, Kaby Lake-X is a really bad joke.

>>59965613
I got a job m8, money ain't a problem.
>6 core
You mean 10

>>59965337
>Bought a 1700X for the higher rated TDP envelope

That was dumb of you. Listed TDP has zero meaning beyond stock settings. You're getting literally nothing except a higher clock out of the box with the 1700X. The 1800X is the only one which overclocks any better, and it's due to better binning, not TDP.

>As of 3/13/17, the top 26% of 1700s were able to hit 4.0GHz or greater.
>As of 3/13/17, the top 29% of 1700Xs were able to hit 4.0GHz or greater.
>As of 3/13/17, the top 73% of 1800Xs were able to hit 4.0GHz or greater.

>>59965631
>Single thread performance shit
The IPC is around Haswell/Broadwell level. The clocks are just lower
>More expensive than Intel
Wrong.
>A fucking pentium has better thread performance than the 1800x
Because it's clocked higher with 4 times less cores. Put any CPU heavy task on it and it will scream.

>>59965489
that is why I paid extra buck to get a board with two PCI slots
if only somebody slapped one IDE onto the board I would be totally happy

>>59965660
>You mean 10
That'd be 2k$ then.

>>59965576
>Buying the FX series was a horrible buy no matter how you looked at it.
price was right

>>59965660
Still not a good deal M8. Over paying for the Intel Epeen while could have used that 500$ for a better SSD/GPU.

>>59965705
>GPU
Haven't grown out of vidya I see

>>59965720
Vidya is pretty much the only reason anyone should even consider buying an Intel CPU at this point.

>>59965240
It's probably not good for a beginners build but it's great if you've done a few builds and know what you're doing.

>>59965576
no way. cheap ass 6300 got me through uni like a dream

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>>59965240

>tfw you shrink your porn collection from 5TB to 2TB because Ryzen 7 is an h.265 beast encoder

>>59965560
Buy another router as a media bridge

>>59965613
>Muh house fire
It's like you're not capable of individual thought or something...

>>59965720
I still play the ocassiocal game here and there. You do know that GPUs have uses other than video games right? Ever heard of OpenCL/CUDA?

>>59965854
>responding to trollposts
shiggydiggy

>>59965738
>5TB to 2TB
Is this real?
How long does it take to re-encode 5TB of video on ryzen?

>>59965286
Building some new computers for my entire family in the near future. It's all going to be AMD because Intel are cunts.

>>59965972
how could someone do this to their own flesh and blood

>>59965997
Paying less for better hardware? Dunno.

>>59965240
fall for what exactly? same shit different day?

>>59965997
Because some people actually DON'T hate their family.

>>59965240
>intel 7600k is cheaper than the 1600 in yuropoorland

Well, I guess I'll stick with supporting the jews then.

>>59966103
No, no it's not

>>59965946
few minutes

>>59965997
lol what

the only thing intel even has going for them is MUH GAYMES

>>59966112
Maybe in your country, but not in my shitty one. But even checking amazon.de the Ryzen is only cheaper by 10-20 eur.

Certainly not enough to offset to cost of having to buy a DGPU with Ryzen, and the intel integrated one is plenty for my needs.

>>59966163
Well, you need to take into account the motherboard, Z boards are not cheap.

>>59965240
>muh 6900k housefire

>>59966163
but it's like 20 euros for a cheap discrete gpu

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>>59966163
>le igpu meme

>>59965240

lol fuck no

have you seen these ddr4 prices?

>>59966177
Damn, that's true, it's been a while since I build a system, didn't expect to be jewed that hard for those. Well, a non-K chip with a cheaper chipset is still a more economic solution than a Ryzen + DGPU, but also leaves me without OC for some more future-proofing.

I'll have to research this more.

>>59966295
>>>/v/

>>59965276
fpbp

>>59965946

100GB of 1080p movies where each file is around 2GB each.

One file takes 15-20 minutes using the "VeryFast 1080p30" preset but with h.265 instead of h.264.

>>59966366
no one's spending that much on a cpu and not buying a graphics card

I can't wait until the apus release so you shills stop this retarded integrated graphics troll

>>59966657
You do know that people can have different needs, right? Not everyone is a gaymer kiddie like yourself.

>>59966657
I bought a 1700X for my 380X, and am waiting for Vega.
The compile times are insane.

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>>59966163
>igpu

>>59966189
Don't try to use logic against igpu retards.

>>59966692
if you need don't need GPU for your needs and you are using your PC as facebook machine, then getting anything but G4560 is dumb.

If you use it for any multithreaded work, getting 7600 over 1600 is also dumb.

>>59966163
If you truly work with stuff, you wouldn't rely on a igpu...

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>>59965286
My nigga, just bought mines about a hour ago. Feels good, upgrading from a x4 640.

>>59965276
TL;DR
Cheaper with comparable performance - good. Ryzen was targeted to be more affordable option.

>>59965276
When a 4chan argument has retarded / autistic alongside first 1 - 2 lines you know to ignore it - because it's just another angry basement dweller / anime enthusiast with opinions based on delusion and not real life.

>>59965404
>i5 2500 nonk @4ghz
Should i even bother or just get an 3570k on my z68 chipset and OC?

>X299 is literally Kabylake hexacores/octacores

1800X is finished

Knowing Intel though they'll fuck it up with their pricing

1500+ dollarydoos for the 10-core
1000 for the 8-core
400+ for the 6-core

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>>59965560
Could use pic related. I used them for a while but you may have concerns like >>59965566 pointed out regarding surges.

>>59967230
>"""""upgrading""""" from an i5 to an i5
>"""""upgrading""""" from Sandy Bridge to Inferno Bridge
>"""""upgrading""""" from solder to thermal jizz

You buy a 2600K or 2700K if you're intent on keeping your current platform. There are no other worthwhile upgrades. The 3770K is a housefire and any IPC gain is drowned by lower clocks.

>>59966163

Do the math again you dumb fuck.

In order to get the most out of intels iGPU (4k60hz playback etc) you need to get a top of the line mobo for DP support, not to mention overclocking too. Its literally cheaper to get a proper GPU for 100 dollars than to waste money on Intels platium mobos and unlocked "features".

>>59967241
>X299 is literally Kabylake hexacores/octacores
except its not, the only kabylake-x is the 7740k
>NEW socket lga 2066
>4c 8t
>112W Housefire™


everything else is Skylake-x
>https://videocardz.com/68219/intel-x299-basin-falls-platform-to-launch-in-june
>6 - 10 cores
>140W Housefire™

now go shit your bed, corelet

>>59967241
>Knowing Intel though they'll fuck it up with their pricing
What's the point then?

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>>59967615
SHUT UP

>>59965240
>You didn't actually fall for the meme, did you?

No, I bought one.

>>59965585
>4 cores...

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>>59967692
>oh boy can't wait to stream netflix on my new 7740k----

Both Skylake-X and Kabylake-X are to use the same LGA2066 socket (Socket R4) and both will lack integrated graphics processors.

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>>59967717
Just wait for Cannonlake

>>59967734
>just wait™
But why should i, mr. Shekelstein. Ryzen is so close, it's cheap and offers stellar performance.

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>mfw quadcore memes trying to flame the pain away

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>>59967734
will (((they))) solder cannonlake?

>>59967757
No.

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>>59967734
>Intelaviv shills are the new Just Wait™ fags

this fucking timeline keeps on giving

>>59967773
Just wait for Vega so resident novideo shills will tell everone to Just Wait™ for Volta.

>>59967779
>Volta
>pascal die shrink to 12nm
>which was a maxwell die shrink to 16nm

can' fucking wait™

>>59967825
Maybe they'll change something architecture-wise. I mean Maxwell was good but there's no reason to sit their asses.

>>59967754
How the fuck is the 1700X at 4GHz better than 7700k at 5GHz with the same RAM

MOAR GIGAHURTZ

>>59967466
>i7
is there even any advantage?

>>59967861
More threads and more L3.

>>59967867
Im just a faggy vidyafag, how would i benefit from 4+ threads?

>>59967871
Less CPU chokes.

>>59967230
>Non K
>@4ghz
enjoy your 1 core lol

>>59967871
Do you play something like BF1?

>>59967837
yes, Maxwell was bretty gud, they struck gold with the stream rasterizer( dunno the name lol)

pascal performs 'good' because of the clockspeeds dont you think? there isn't much new about pascal, just 12nm and those high clockspeed. correct me if i'm wrong

>>59967884
I don't play meme games
>>59967883
I turned off turbo gimmick and you can set the multiplier a bit higher on non k cpus
the rest mhz to 4ghz i achieved by setting bclk to 105mhz

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>>59965240
The meme that Ryzen is shit? No, I didn't fall for it.

>>59967901
Yes, Pascal is a dieshrink. But considering AMD is making the same chainges in Vega NVIDIA did in Maxwell they have to start pumping R&D money again.

>>59967757

Could someone aware me on this meme? Whats the story about soldering, thermal jizz and delidding? I am new to this.

>>59967956
Before ivy bridge they were soldering the cores to the ihs, this is the reason why i5 2500k got a fuckton high frequency like over 5ghz
Ivy bridge started to use the thermal gel to transmit the heat from the cores to IHS but that is a reaaaly shit
some people just get an razor and cut the whole IHS off and place the cooler directly on the cores

>>59967975
Lynnfields and some ye olde Opterons also contained thermal jizz.

>>59965240
nope i didnt fall for the intel meme

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>>59967918
yeah Vega looks a whole new arch
>High Bandwith Controller
>Next Compute Unit pic related
>Draw Stream Binning Rasterizer

looks promising but take it with a grain of salt, AMD has yet to deliver

Just Wait™ for benchmarks

>>59967840
More cache. A lot more cache.

>>59967989
>AMD has yet to deliver
TeraScale2 and first iteration of GCN both delivered. Only Fiji was meh and it was the most unbalanced design ever.

>>59967915
Kill yourself.

No decent small formfactor mainboards out there, means no AMD CPU for me.

>>59968005
Just Wait™.

>>59965240
>live in europe
>Ryzen is expensive as shit, therefore horrible value
>doesn't lead to pricecuts in Skylake or other modern intel products
>6600k is stil at 232 Eurobux on amazon, other retailers have shit return policies

it's a strange kind of feel, mang

You mom is a meme

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>>59967998

>>59967975

Thanks

>>59968035
poor volta, left without any competition

>>59968042
the day vega comes out and below by more than 10% 1080ti, I will buy 1080ti instantly

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>>59968042
>poor Titan X (Pascal) left without competition
oh wait
>poor 1080ti left without competition
oh wait
>poor Titan Xp left without competition


where were you when Nvidia fuck all their consumer?

>>59968086
You forgot Quadro P6000 but eh.

>>59965240
Looking forward to falling for the meme soon.

I am going to be away in May, so I am hoping by the time I get back in June the motherboard/ram issues have been sorted out and it will be prime time to buy.

Going to be sweet to move up from a 1090T.

why do you guys need cpus lol i just use my laptop.

>>59967840
>>59965550
3200 CL14 is all Ryzen can do when Skylake is clearly capable of 4133 CL17

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don't mind me, just enjoying every update Ryzen get

>>59965738
>transcoding lossy files to lossy files with immature codec

Why do you hate yourself?

>>59968390
>older platform has better memory support
Well who would've guessed. But then what the fuck was x99 launch?

>>59968419
>+2fps
woah

>>59968390
>8,2 vs 8,7 ns

Wew, that must change everything

The real question is, when does the 6700k and 7700k drop in price?

I have a i5-6500 and biding my time for a price drop. I sadly didnt manage to snag a used one when the ryzen hype was at it highest.

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>>59968490
>+2 fps
>more performance gains in a single update then Intels jump from Skylake to Kabylake clock-for-clock wise
>muh stutterlake 5 GIGAHURTZ Housefire™

>>59968437
2011 v3 launched in 2014
1151 launched in 2015

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>>59967861
>is there even any advantage?

Yes. A 2600K at stock beats an overclocked i5 from that era, whilst providing a much smoother experience.

>13fps 0.1% low on a 2500K at 4.5GHz
>15.3fps 0.1% low on a 3570K at stock
>74fps 0.1% low on a 2600K at stock
>89fps 0.1% low on a 2600K at 4.7GHz

i5s are a joke unless you like stuttering. The "hurr Hyberbreading does nuffink for ma gaymes" meme has been repeatedly blown the fuck out over the past several years. A used 2600K is around the same price as a 3570K too.

>>59968622
And? x99 launch was a major fuckup.

>>59968500
http://www.techspot.com/article/1171-ddr4-4000-mhz-performance/
Pretty big boost outside of gaming when combined with the higher clock speed.

>>59965487
Oh snap I got a 4690 gonna do the same soon

>>59968625
gpu bottleneck

>>59969928
You're a fucking retard.

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>tfw upgrading from a fx6350
my parts are supposed to come in today, i'm excited

>>59965404
JUST WAIT

>>59965404
4 months for 12C/24T
2 months for 10C/20T

>>59970020
Holy crap that cat and blanket looks extremely similar to mine. Enjoy your new Ryzen.

>>59970146
>4 months for 12C/24T

If we're going there, what are the price ranges for Opteron? How much would you expect a Naples chip to cost?

>>59965240
1800X master race.

I'm loving it!

>>59965474
you must have a double digit IQ lol XD :3

think its worth replacing the thermal paste on the wraith cooler? I've got some mx-2 laying around but not even sure if its worth the effort because I can't even find any reviews testing stock/aftermarket paste