NVIDIA ON SUICIDE WATCH

>>59952148
That's quite the improvement over the RX 480...

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>>59952148
NOOOOOOO

What? Any other source?
This is rather impressive

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>>59952148
Seem incredibly trustworthy.
Which AMD shilling channel of the week is this again?

That is actually embarrassing for amd since 480 has 10fps less than 1060.
580 looks good though, any idea when nvidia equivalent will come out ?

>>59952228
Linus (sponsored by AMD) is the only one who got results like these, you must be an idiot to trust him on benchmarking these days anyway.

>>59952232
https://youtu.be/BWqF5fDAZqA?t=345

>>59952148
This does not make any sense at all, can you link the source because I thought that the 580 was just a slightly higher clocked 480 and clock rates don't even give a linear improvement. This would be the equivalent of like a 480 clocked at like 1800-1900 on the core.

>>59952251
Ah, LinusMarketingTips.

>>59952232
lol my r9 290 is still near the top for 1080p. I guess I should wait at least for double+ the FPS for the same price to upgrade.

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How could this be?

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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTnFKwK_DaQ
>"OCing isn't great. With the Sapphire card I can only add 10Mhz to the core before it becomes unstable"
Embarrassing to be honest. I expected at least 10% performance increase, along with better power consumption and OC capabilities, but they've actually made it worse. The laziest attempt at rebranding I've ever seen, and we are talking about king of useless rebrands here.

>>59952338

400 series wasn't that OCable, what made you think the 500 series is? it's actually a good thing because they didn't leave any room to OC they were maxed at their highest performance level

it's 2017, OCing is a meme just like SLI/Crossfire is, why leave some headroom for OC when you can just max out the performance and sell them

>>59952375
this
playing with sliders is 2003
testing was crap, tech process was crap
now you can sell chips at their peak

even though 580 4.5% OC converts into 3.5% performance icnrease
when 20% nvidia OC converts into 7% performance icnrease

>>59952148

Where is the AMD card that rivals my 1080?

>>59952375
Because
>muh ePeen

>>59952375
> what made you think the 500 series is?
I expected something I cannot get from my home already. If they wanted to make a price cut, they should have made a price cut, not rebrand this them this lazily.

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GTX 1070 bros how do you feel about the rebrand?

>>59952507
>buying x70 card from novideo
Brainlets never learn?

>>59952532
Nvidia and Intel are the best

Polaris is an abomination of a failure.

Rebranding this piece if shit doesn't solve anything other then to water down your shittier and shittier GPU brand.

Just release Vega you stupid fucking twats.

Price of 580 and 570?

>>59952552
>stuttering
>no vulkan/dx12
>housefires
>supporting israel and international judaism

good goyim

What's with this 97th percentile shit that I keep seeing?

>>59952625
$10 less then the msrp of the 480 and 470

>>59952625
580 seems like 200-250 on amazon

>>59952649
Stuttering when?

>>59952661
intel stuttering lol delid stutterlake what a failure

>>59952674
Sorry, I don't speak meme.

>>59952649
>stuttering
you're pulling that from your ass
>no vulkan/dx12
raw performance makes up for that
>housefires
AMD cards run hotter
>supporting israel and international judaism
as opposed to what?

t. Sapphire 480 8GB owner, you're just a dumbass

>>59952666
always its a babbydelidstutterhousefire lake feature

>>59952703
i never had that

>>59952661
Its basically the minimum but discarding weird single frame outliers from stutters. I recall the part 3 rysen video on level1techs going over it, showing a GTA Vice benchmark where an Intel CPU had a 100ms frame, most likely due to the game itself rather than the cpu/GPU.

>>59952748
GTA V*
Sorry, phoneposting.

>>59952700

>AMD cards run hotter

amd makes reference cards, they run hot, just like nvidia's reference cards run hot

when an aftermarket card runs hot, that's not amd's problem vice verse with nvidia, blame the aftermarket cooling design, furthermore, get a AIO water cooling solution and you'll never have to worry about heat

>>59952700
>you're pulling that from your ass
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybF7r4rogHc
>raw performance makes up for that
lol no
>AMD cards run hotter
no they dont see pic related
>as opposed to what?
not being a globalist puppet

>t. Sapphire 480 8GB owner, you're just a dumbass
oy vey goyim belive me im one of you

>>59952784
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybF7r4rogHc
they even say in that video that there isn't any noticable difference

>>59952713
then you are used to eating shit

>>59952792
no maybe my cpu is not a fucking mess like yours

>>59952791
while saying that there was stuttering on all intel platforms just that its not a massive issue to them

>>59952784
Back to pol you go!

>>59952804
>im a intel cuck and i love to be KEKED
i have a i7 and hate it, i notice stuttering on it frequently, so stop lying on the internet shlomo

>>59952823
wtf are you doing then? i really never had this

>>59952818
Back to tumblr you go!

>>59952811
so there is a 150-500ms stutter every 10-20 minutes
and you imply that it's just stuttering all over the place like several times a minute

>>59952845
and you ignore the fact that there are some stutters with ryzen, they're just smaller

>>59952148
>1060 owners BTFO

>>59952248
Linus is a sold out faggot who would fuck his mother on livestream for a nickel. Fucking jew.

>>59952862
Funny how stuttering is only important now that AMD has that edge over Intel, when Polaris having garbage frame times compared to Pascal was ignored.

>>59952887
it wasn't, but for $200 it was ignored
and it doesn't have stuttering with ryzen, checkmate

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>fps
>>>/trash/
FPS is as inferior unit of measure and misleads consumers. There are no cases where it's better to use fps over sfp. You should always be measuring in seconds pull frame.

>>59952148
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME!!!???
That shit is just a 480 with a minor overclock, how this shit can be real?
This is a joke, has to be!

>>59952148
wtf i love radeon now

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>Be AMD
>graphics cards can't handle 1440p resolution
>CPU's can't handle 1080p high frame rates
>shills make a case for 1080p framerates not necessarily being the end all
>ok maybe
>test AMD GPUs at 1440p
>that's not fair!

>>59952836
>wtf are you doing then?
lying on the internet what else could an idiot like him do?

>>59952649
did i miss something?
>no vulkan/dx12
this is blatantly wrong
>housefires
evga people who buy evga are retarded and it has literally nothing to do with nvidia since the housefires are only happening on evga cards
>supporting israel and international judaism
buhu just like amd and ever other giant techcorp

>>59952961
>housefires are only happening on evga cards
Didn't Zotac also have crappy thermal paste on some cards?

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Say something about 980ti performance.

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>>59952944
>>test AMD GPUs at 1440p
AMD is generally better at 1440p though, what are you on about?

>>59952984
I have no interest in 1440/4k personally, 144hz 1080p is too good.

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>>59952148
bro's, we need to stop this. we can't let amd beat our cards in benchmarks!

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>>59952944

>>59952983
it's surprisingly alright in gimpworks

>>59952983
DELET

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finally a benchmarker who tests oc vs oc and not oc vs stock. even the 970 twats the 580 lmao

>>59952975
i seem to remember something like that
though at least they did not explode, at least as far as i know

>>59953019
>i-it's not fair!
>that's not an official AMD approved shill too- I mean game

Not reputable charts and no source

Only idiots would think it is legit.

The 580 is just a refresh with nothing but higher clocks.
The improvement is far to severe for it to make any sense.

But then again, there are obviously enough retards who will believe anything.

>>59952929
>seconds pull frame.
lmao what? Just call it frametime, in seconds.

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>>59953014
>sub 60 fps

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>>59952148
RX 580 is a re-brand of the RX 480, they are the same card with a marginally higher boost-clock. I don't buy that graph, it's very likely shopped. I can almost tell it's shopped from the pixels and from seeing a lot of shops in my time.

Also, look at the RX 470 vs 570: those cards perform nearly identical - which is what you'd expect when two cards are identical.

>>59953019
>we will test 480 burning pcie lanes
>oops it doesn't, let's forget about it, we won't tell you results either so assume it does
>we will fight to the end to disprove EVGA blowing up though
>yay we proved it!
>we won't test more than 5 minutes because, jsut because, no it doesn't throttle, no-no it won't lwoer fps at all
>buy NVIDIA IT'S BETTER

GN for you.

>>59953065
but its not shopped u retard. this is from the latest linus tech tips video

>>59952791
They also say in that video that the stuttering was really bad at some point. It's called damage control.

>>59952148
>testing at 1080p isn't fair! It makes Intel look better!
>look at these 1080 benchmarks. Nvidia is getting their ass owned
Make up your fucking minds already.

>>59953073
Does Nvidia actually pay GN or it's just Steve Burke being a massive jew cum guzzling faggot? I can't tell.

>>59953073
>buy NVIDIA IT'S BETTER
Yep

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>>59953062
it can get 60 in tw3 though unlike 1060.

>>59953073

They really are just incompetent aren't they?

>>59953073
>jsut
>lwoer

been skipping english class have you rajeet? amd won't be pleased with that.

nvidia: The Way It's Meant to be Played

>>59953099
>>59953111
yes.

>>59953019
>5% difference
>the card gets twatted

Yeah, and the 7700k completely destroys the 6700k, amiright.

>https://www.computerbase.de/2017-04/radeon-rx-580-570-test/2/#abschnitt_benchmarks_in_1920__1080_und_2560__1440

Ughh, still with the aftermarket RX580, AMD doesn't beat the 1060.

I know I shouldn't have listened to the internet community and should have just looked at the rare figures, but I didn't so I bought a MSI 480.

>https://www.computerbase.de/2017-04/radeon-rx-580-570-test/4/#abschnitt_performance_pro_watt

Performance pro Watt is obviously getting worse, because overclocking over the chip's sweetspot is never a good idea.


>NVIDIA ON SUICIDE WATCH

Nope
Nvidia is far away ahead and is producing performance boosts with each new generation, unlike Intel.

>>59953110
I have a GTX 760 a played through W3 with ~45 avg FPS with everything on high except foliage which was at medium. Ultra settings is a fucking joke.

>>59953110
>1080p
W O W
O
W

>>59953110
any aftermarket 1060, like that aftermarket oc 580, can easily achieve over 60 fps.

>>59953127
and thats only the GTX 1070 Founders Edition

>>59953135
are you a fucking amateur?

it's
....W
W O W
....W

>>59953153
AMDgoyjims are hoping for Vega

>>59953153
by the time vega releases the gtx 1070 will be midrange.

>>59953157
W O W
O W O
W O W

>>59953139
that 1060 is also aftermarket

>>59953081
Did you even watch the video, nowhere in that video was it on top, fucking AMD cuck.

>>59953177
>OWO

nah m8

.W..W.W..W
....O......O
.W..W.W..W

>>59953176
how? volta is not coming

>>59952148
I'm always down for my dudes at nvidia but... I'm just so... Sleepy. Let's hash this out later after we get some comfy rest.

>>59953212
no it's not.

You can say whatever you want about AMD new Ryzen CPU which is a big hit against Intel, thanks to Keller.

However no matter how much you dislike Nvidia for its company policies, they actually keep moving forward.

The market value is triple as high as the Intel one and it shows that investors are actually seeing great potential with Nvidia also thanks to the professional (automobile) market.

I have to live with my MSI RX480 for a few years now.
Have chosen AMD because I didn't want to spend extra 100 bucks on a G-Sync monitor which was the main argument against buying Nvidia card.

And please do not be delusional enough to think the Vega chip will somehow throw Nvidia over, especially with considering the price point with HBM2.

Has anyone tested on a Zen system?

>>59952984
1080 ti is consistant 60fps at 4k high settings and the coming Vega is stated to be better than that and set to release in may. This will be the summer of 4k.

>>59953276
ofc not

>>59953276
in linus video he did

>>59953229
with the way nvidia are pushing out these really powerful high end cards i wouldn't be surprised to see another 1080 ti in the next 6 months and the gtx 1070 pushed down into the low $300 range. i don't have any problem with nvidia releasing more at the high end because then i get the cards i actually want for cheaper, which tends to be the x70 gpu.

>>59953274

They aren't moving forward though, they are stagnating.

Imagine if every game was as optimized as Doom on Vulkan. Cheap i3 and R3 CPUs and big ass GPUs getting 120fps in 1440p would be the norm.

Instead, we have to deal with Nvidia holding back on DX11 legacy shit because they don't have the hardware to compete because they stripped it all out to improve performance per watt and offload it to the GPU.

>>59953317
no they wouldn't. not every game is a corridor shooter like doom which is not as graphically intensive as something like the witcher 3 or gta 5.

Can we not just be happy with amd and nvidia that we can choose between them?

>>59952255
Seemed odd a 1070 was only 10% faster than a 1060.

>>59953338

It would still be better performance for less money. It would still give you insane performance per dollar.

And how nice of you to ignore the point of the post. That Nvidia is doing the opposite of advancing technology. Because they have a death grip on Direct x 11.

>>59953370
considering the way 90% of directx 12 ports have been i'm more than happy with directx 11 for the time being. moving to dx12 just because of muh amd is fucking retarded. pretty much every dx12 port has been a broken mess in one way or the other compared to the dx11 version. the only game which i can't think of having problems is the division. everything else including amd's own optimized games like battlefield 1 shit the bed when it comes to dx12 mode with inconsistent performance compared to the dx11 mode.

don't blame nvidia for devs being shit. even in amd sponsored games as i said before, the performance in dx12 is unreliable.

i have a gtx 1070 anyway so i get excellent dx11 performance and also pretty good dx12 performance. the 1070 puts the overclockers dream fury x to shame with the latest dx12 driver update in all dx12 games. watch HUB's video if you don't believe me.

or you can just stop complaining with that buyers remorse and buy the product which actually works as intended with 9/10 modern games, which happens to be nvidia. you can fanboy and complain to me about nvidia all you want but that won't change anything about their good performance in most games.

and before you accuse me of being a fanboy, i have a 1600 on backorder.

>>59953462
>Shills for DX11 with it's atrocious multi-threading
>Buys a 1600
Congratulations, you are retarded.

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>>59953556
please tell me how i'm shilling for dx11 based on my comments on the weigh up between the current state of both api

..oh wait you're just mentally deficient. never mind.

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>>59953462

Your diatribe ignores that Nvidia gutted their hardware.

It ignores that they have a dominant market share with incredible weight to manipulate the market. It ignores that they also pay developers with cross marketing deals to utilize their proprietary technology.

It also ignores that when developers have properly implemented Direct x 12 away from Nvidias grubby little hands that it gives a performance boost on every piece of hardware, while Nvidia only optimizations give only modest performance bumps to their hardware, while crippling everything else.

I don't give a shit what you call yourself, I just call you obtuse to the facts that Nvidia is bad for the consumer, it's bad for the industry.

>>59953594

You're blaming developers for having to coddle Nvidia hardware by not completely crippling them in DX 12/Vulkan.

>>59953594
ignore him he just go full on fanboy
you did good 1600 and 1070 is the best combo value you can buy atm.

>>59952148
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTnFKwK_DaQ

unsubscribed this shitty channel.

>>59953690
yeah i know. this is the first time i'm buying an amd cpu and i'm looking forward to it. who would have though that i can still be called retarded for buying an amd product by amds own superfans. with that post it seemed like he was implying that buying the 1600 was bad and that i should have bought something like an intel. oh well, whatever suits the narrative.

>>59952248
>Linus (sponsored by AMD) is the only one who got results like these

Just watched the video, in the beginning he does say that they got a factory overclocked card. They probably tested stock clocked RX 470s and RX 480s to pretend that the RX 5XX's are anything more than re-brands with higher boost-clocks.

>>59952255
>This does not make any sense at all
It doesn't.

>>59952276
>>59952284
These make more sense - but they probably didn't test with the highest overclocked RX 5XX's available. The 480 and the 580 cards have the exact same hardware. Comparing an overclocked 480 with an overclocked 580 would give similar results, doing a Linus and comparing a stock clocked 480 with an overclocked 580 would obviously show a bigger "improvement".

>>59952662
>$10 less then the msrp of the 480 and 470
So essentially the same price. They might as well have saved the cost of that re-branding and just cut the prices on the 480.

>>59952148
As long as this cuts the price of the 480x I'm happy.

>>59953624
>gutted their hardware
How exactly?
Feature wise they have parity, or rather Nvidia offers more in some respects (DX 12.1 support).
Can you point me to something that AMD can do on their hardware, but Nvidia can't?

>>59953594
>>59953690
DX11 is very poorly multi-threaded compared to DX12 and Vulkan. Wider adoption form the latter two would help.bettwr utilize the multi-threaded advantages of a 1600 vs Intel corelet CPUs, thus it appears to be nonsensical to advocate in favor of DX11 while purchasing a CPU that would clearly benefit from a shift to a DX12 or Vulkan focus in games.

Do you understand my point now?

>>59952944
>>59952984

>current desktop resolution: 6400 x 1440
> using 3x1080p for years
> no graphics card can handle that
> graphics cards come close
> already replaced 1 with a 1440p, going to replace the other two soon-ish

AMD (and nvidia): Fuck You.

>>59952232
>>59952276
OP BTFO

>>59953123
the 970 is a 2 year old mid range card with 3,5gb vram though

The fact that it beats the 580 is pretty embarassing

>>59953935
Much less impressive than 580 beating 980ti, top of the range nvidia's last gen in vulkan though.

>>59953951
Considering the 980ti is also almost 2 years old now and was manufactured on a bigger node, I wouldn't say that is very impressive desu

Fake and gay

>>59952148
>no difference between rx470 and rx570
Why

>>59953832

Hahahahaha! Compute for one, hardware task scheduler for another.

Nvidia thinks they can just offload most of that to the CPU and get equal performance. And they tried to improve it with Pascal. But it still is absolute garbage at asynchronous compute. It's just not going to completely get choked out like Maxwell did.

He explains it.
https://youtu.be/nIoZB-cnjc0

>>59953966
Nah, it is still very impressive considering the price difference.

>>59952148
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTnFKwK_DaQ

>>59953951
You mean the one to the wall overclocked 580 beats a reference 980Ti by a whopping 0.1 fps in a game that's a poster child for AMD performance and contains optimizations targeting specific features of GCN on the hardware level.

>>59953317
>>59953338
The fact that Nvidia really has stripped quite a few things from their GPUs is true; there is no denying this. Nvidia cards don't even have a hardware scheduler anymore, their drivers do that with the CPU. This becomes specially apparent when playing games that require a lot from both the CPU and the GPU.

>>59953019
nice dx12 benchmark you got there

>>59953997
Yes, exactly that overclocked midrange card beating top of the line last gen card. Who would have though, right?

>>59953972
Well apparently they can, judging by how the cards stack against each other.
Also Nvidia was the first to market with a HW scheduler on Fermi.
Compute, especially double precision doesn't really matter much on a typical consumer card either - you can see it in how compute benchmarks and actual game performance rarely correspond to each other.

>>59953966
>nvidiots
>thinking their opinions matter
wew lad

>>59953872
rx580/480 good value for money. but he want 1070 performance, amd got nothing.

>>59953019
Dont post shill nexus here

>>59954051
it matters if you want to streamline profits from one SKU in enterprise to consumer

will see how it works in q4 2017

>>59954087
Well, as it did for the past 5 years.

>>59954034
Oh that's how AMDfriends must have felt since the Fury X launch.

>>59954101
AMD didn't have whole package with naples paltforn and OpenCL translators
they managed to lower TDP this much while keeping hardware intact. I'd imagine if they could cut out hardware scheduler and compute parts polaris would run under 70TDP

>>59953872
dx12 has already been "widely adopted" by many different game development companies and even though in an optimal scenario it would help game engines to run better due to better threaded utilization, the current crop of titles have been unreliable. as i said, i'm fine with dx11 "for the time being" i.e. till devs can actually learn to code properly and not released half assed botched dx12 patches which is literally just a shoddy bolted on dx12 mode (or dx11.3).

do you understand my point now?

>>59954140
Fair enough.

I just bought rx 480, rx 580 isn't that much better r-right?

>>59952232
>>59952148
linus is forcing tessellation to x16

>>59952532
I have a GTX970, I kinda regret it now, I should've gone with an R9 290x.

>>59954281
>implying everyone shouldn't do this

>>59954430
nvidia users can't
hahaha

>>59954204
No, this is linusshilltips

>>59954204
Its the same card

F A K E
A
K
E

>>59954460
>b-b-but muh """""""""better""""""""""" drivers
>cant touch tesselation
wew lad nvidia users, stay forever cucked

>>59952148

I jumped ship from my 8350/280x when I got my 3440x1440 monitor. At first I got a 1070 like 3 weeks after it came out (already last year holy shit time flies) but then eventually got a 6700k setup by August. I was tired of waiting on AMD but now I'm actually feeling some slight remorse.

This isn't Vega is it? That means we got even more to see.

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>>59952251
MFW he uses the exact same words as the nVidiots on /g/

>>59952375
>>59952401

Holy mental gymnastics batman.

The fact your gpu can't oc for shit is a feature guyze!

Top fucking kek. Man, reading the delusion from amd marketers is hilarious.

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>>59954558
I would love to buy a cheap AMDiarrhea card but they dissapointed me twice for not keeping up with how I like to play games and GPU intensive vidya.

>>59953213
It was though. Actually go watch it, it's the first slide after the For Honor benchmarks.

>>59954594
Overclocking GPUs was always just a matter of squeezing a few percent more performance out of them for those adventurous enough to do so. The whole "overclock your card 20 percent (for 15 minutes) before it thermally throttles back to stock speeds" thing is an Nvidia marketing meme, but it's paid dividends for them, along with custom dx11 driver hacks for in-built benchmarks.

>>59954594
>GPU can't overclock for shit
>gets actual performance gains from the overclock
>GPU can overclock to the moon and back
>doesn't get any performance gains from the overclock
LOL LOOK AT MY BIGGER MEGA HURTZ GUYZ

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>>59953356
be happy?

>>59954729
>"overclock your card 20 percent (for 15 minutes) before it thermally throttles back to stock speeds"

When you have an AMD housefire trash that throttles without even OCing and sounds like a jet engine while doubling as a space heater, yeah, that's pretty bad. Fortunately any smart person won't fall for the amd meme provided he has any brains.

>>59954746
Meanwhile, even the 970 that got memed to death easily OCs to stock 980 level and murders the ever living fuck out of the two garbage amd gpus you guys try to shill so much OC vs OC, the 390 and 480. And as a bonus you actually get to play something other than ashes of amd tears!

Enjoy your overvolted room heating garbage that only gets good performance in 1 amd sponsored game by the way.

>>59952987
>generally better
>top AMD card (Fury X) can't even beat some mid-range card (1080 is mid-range now that the 1080 Ti is out)
>top 580 still can't even beat mid-range 1080
u w0t m8

>>59953303
Which is weird, because according to that, there was no difference between 480 and 1060 performance on the ryzen system, but Anandtech shows its a MASSIVE fucking difference

What gives?
Is anandtech retarded
Is linustechtips retarded

Whos retarded?
halp.

>>59954904
1080 ti is enthusiast range not high range
1080 is high range
1070 is some kind of mid - high range
1060 is mid range
1050 is retard range

So the 500series is a refresh of the 400 series like the 300series was for the 200series?

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house fire rajeet tech edition

>>59955230
1070 is more like "I want to be high range, but this is the best I can afford".
1050 is "why dont I just use the gpu chip on the cpu?"

>>59955230
lol???

The Titan X is enthusiast range. It always has been that way and always will be.

1080 Ti is borderline enthusiast range. 1080 is high range. 1070 is also mid range. 1060 is poorfag range.

1080p is poorfag range. 1440p is mid range. 1440p ultrawide, 4K, and higher are high/enthusiast range.

>unironically buying novideo in 2017
Toppest of keks.

>>59955327
no, titans are "im a fucking chump" range.

>>59955273

HAHAHAHAAHHA

refresh my wattage edition

>>59955345
Titans are "i am fucking retarded so i buy compute card with gimped compute".

>>59955197
Everyone is retarded.

>>59955273

>Muh power consumption.

Literally who cares?

>>59955409
I do.

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>>59952148

nice fake, pajeet

>>59955409
>>59955416
>aftermarket 1080s require 225W
>ENJOY YOUR HOUSEFIRES NVIDIOTS XDDDDDDDDDD
>aftermarket 580s require close to 350W
>"Muh power consumption." "Literally who cares?"

>>59952148
HAHA
DIE NVIDIA
HAHAHAHAHA

>>59955409

literally everyone besides autists like you

>>59953832
not him but Nvidia is a one trick pony anon in dx11,which is only the case since nvidia gutted their hardware to make better use of their drivers to cut cost.AMD has significant performance over nvidia with GPUs of the same gen on dx12
dx12.1 isnt around so any offering is that isnt even released is wishful thinking.

>>59955453
>aftermarket 580s require close to 350W
350W is total system consumption. Learn to read before shilling, Ramesh.

>>59955444
>>59955454

AMDead

>>59954594
Owned ~7 GPUs, didn't OC once in 18 years

>>59952998
>Our cards
Are you implying that it won't take AMD a year + to beat the 1080 TI cause it will.

>>59952148
So Linus has started shilling for AMD instead now? Have noVidia become so Jewish they can't even be bothered to pay reviewers anymore? I guess they don't need it with such a performance lead.

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>>59955444
come on.

>>59955532
ayymd got him on their pay roll for poozen

AMD is such a waste holy fuck

who is going to buy this garbage ever?
All those desperate fags already got one RX480 or 1060 for their gayming needs.
What are they doing man release VEGA already.

I'm currently on a r9 270 so the rx 580 represents a substantial upgrade for me anyway, so i'm probably going to go for it.

Maybe its just outlets being shitty here, but i find once a series is discontinued they increase in price rather than decrease, so i might as well get a 580

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>>59955244
Seems like that,AMD probably dickedaround with the power delivery again for the extra mhz they squeezed out

>>59952532
I don't really understand that meme. Why would I shill out double the price for less than double the performance for the x80 version of the card?

>>59955642
those reference cooler look good though, is there any temp info on those? seen only partner cards eviews

>>59953756
you didn't even watch the video
he literally said that 5xx are OCed 4xx

>>59955473
Yes and what does it change exaclty if you cut out the system? Rajeet AMD is still on top raping the wattage.

>>59955851
Bigger die with more shaders at past optimal clocks consumers more? Well who would have guessed, Ramesh.

>>59955666

there are no reference coolers.

gamers nexus review gives much diff numbers btw.

>>59955878

hahahahahaha
get a load of this bastard

So we agree that AMD is fucking trash and even their pathetic refresh is useless in gains but consumes more power?
Good Rajeet, move on.

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I'm really trying to not to be intelvdiot, trying to be open-minded,to buy best price/perf ratio products.
I even watch AdoredTV(not shill), I had many ATI/AMD CPUs/GPUs (athlon 64,hd4850,hd4870,hd4890,hd7970ghz,Phenom2x4black etc).
But, nvidia had some fuckups(gtx2#0,gtx4#0(shit was hot and ate watts),gtx7#0(performance downgrade with drivers=true/false,who knows, but usually where there's smoke,there is fire),gtx970 minus 512mb, shit with dx10.1(assassins creed patch 1.01),game works, grabbing tessellation for themselves(actual tech that could really improve graphics cheaply) etc.
Intel had huge fuckup back in 2001 with Pentiums with first HT, they had 5% increments in tick /tock era but big picture, intel/nvidia combo just have better user experience than anything mixed with AMD.Rebranding (I honestly don't know who fucks who since r9 ##0,that whole tech is just hd7970 oced/tweaked little, they did same shit with hd5870=hd6970>hd6870),then fucking heat and watt eater, also drivers.
I5 2500k+hd7970ghz was probably best combo (longevity wise without breaking the bank) for a long time(almost totally relevant even today if you don't need more than 1080@60\almost ultra.But,its like phishing for a goldfish in a sea of piss.
Even if you are totally armed with all info/advice/knowledge you can find online/in magazines, you can fuck yourself hard or you can score up to a point that you are peaceful with your build for 5-7 years(example:when i5-2500k was released,reviews were :"CPU is OK but kinda meh!", some 8 months later folks figured out shit was ocable to hell and back).
Point is,ryzen is still hot and eat watts( as all past amd CPUs) yet not as cheap to be competitive on budget side, and ati GPUs are also hot and eat watts,yet also not attractive price point, basically nothing changed except better marketing.
Prove me wrong!? Not a fanboy, same shit happens since 486/ Voodoo's GPUs, only people get old and don't even have PCs .

where is VEGA my fellow street shitting Indians?

>>59955991
Computex, Rajeesh.

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>2year old graphics

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>>59955904
>Point is,ryzen is still hot and eat watts
anon, you pasted wrong pasta there
update your shilling material

>>59955904
wou that is really long copy pasta,and does not evven havve enought jokes

>>59956022

launch or another NDA slide?

>>59956088
Most certainly launch. The ususal Radeon launch window.

>>59956088
most likely launch, simply because enterprise already got their cards
you can buy vega already, it would probably not game at all though

The only good thing about this is lineup is no more GNC1 with the rx550 at the bottom

>>59956022
you mean compootex

>>59956302
Anything for the poo.

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>Still relevant 4 years later
holy shit where is vega?

>>59956038
Like i'd trust that AMD shill site

>>59956461
i thought tom's hardware was the intel shill website?

>>59956038
Well, as far as I can see, intel still leads where it counts.
You are so cucked by amd that you are satisfied when they manage to narrow the gap a little.
If AMD wants to be actual competition and stop chasing Intel's tail, they have to release CPU that's faster,cooler,less tdp and cheaper in mainstream category (usually mainstream is value price/performance gaming build PC, purely because gaymers are loudest minority and they will "advise" all their friends/relatives/normies/work colegues etc about bestest CPU available and historically gamers are best marketing tool),
that's just price of admission after almost 6 gens of total fuckup(I just don't see that, at best its meh choice,about the same).

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why can't you people just make the same thread on /v/eddit?

>>59956566
/v/ is computer illiterate

>>59956491
If anyone gets a positive result with AMD they are automatically an AMD shill and anyone who posts something with pro-intel even if the result is 0.5% better is miraculously ruining AMD

Step up your shitposting anon.

>>59956583
and fucking /v/eddit spillover on /g/ somehow becomes sentient?

>>59952836
You think that you don't have it but it is there and it exists and once you realize it you will hate it. It is just that you don't know about it. Go and look for frametime charts, Ryzen performance barely stutters while high end i7 chips have frametime jumps very often.

>>59956566
>muh /g/
shut the fuck up faggot

>>59956332
>>59956494
>>59956657

>>59953176
1070 was mid range at release

480 and 1060 are low end, but priced like last decade's enthusiast tier because nvidia's been able to get away with increasing market prices without competition.

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>>59956999

>>59957000
so what are the 1050/460 then?

>>59957000
>480 and 1060 are low end
watch out folks, we got a mustard race elitist in here.

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No graphics card general for now I guess

Can you guys help me find some high quality/large PCB images of the Sapphire Nitro Limited Edition, and the Power Color Golden Sample 580s?

You know what make me think both AMD and Nvidia are both garbage companies? They never finish anything. I have a high frikkin end AMD Firepro card from about 5 years or so back. I am running the latest drivers and they are STILL BUGGY AS SHIT. Stuff doesn't draw properly sometimes, etc. Nvidia is the same way.

>>59957203
is it pre-GCN? they dont support those cards anymore.

>>59955501
Been messing around with overclocking on my 980 G1 and it doesn't seem worth the hassle.
At factory settings everything works fine, different games respond differently to your clock settings which is annoying.
With CoH2 for instance even the slightest overclock causes the game to crash a few minutes in, meanwhile with planetside 2 it runs fine for a good while even pushing it as far as 1500MHz on core.

You spend far too much time fiddling with the little shit figuring out where it is stable for hours on end with most applications. I'd rather get a card maxed out performance wise with little headroom as long as that does not translate to the card crashing at factory clocks.

Can't really trust in chance, if two GPUs are neck on neck then fair enough I would choose the one with more overclocking headroom.
However, if one GPU costs less with more OC headroom while the other costs a little bit more with little OC headroom then I will choose the card with better performance out of the box because that is consistent and guaranteed.

>>59952823
I haven't noticed any stuttering playing at 4K 60fps with an i7 4790. Is it a 1080 144Hz thing? or only present in the newer models?

>>59952625
4gb 580 for $200 on newegg. 8gb is around $220 and up depending on clock speed.

>>59955273
Which CPU was it?

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>>59958337
Whole test bench in shot.

So is okay to buy a 580 if I don't own a 480? Or should I just wait and see if any 480s go on sale?

so, 580 or 1060?? or used 980ti?

>>59958398
>>59958407

1070 for $340.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PNY-GeForce-GTX-1070-DirectX-12-VCGGTX10708XGPB-OC-8GB-256-Bit-GDDR5-PCI-Express/302082916354

>>59958407
ofcourse a 580 if price is right

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>>59958454
Why it's using red leds?

>>59958643
thats actually fire, anon