RX 580 Launch thread

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>>59950048
INTEL ON SUICIDE WATCH

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blocks 1060's path

yeah but the cost is the real factor here. iirc most if not all 480 8gb can clock to 1350 mhz even with the stock power setup. if you can pick up a 480 8gb for like $170 but then this comes out at like $250 then this is basically a useless purchase. you just need the 480 and can overclock it or spend a little more (but still less than the 580) and get an aftermarket oc version with better cooling.

unless this is $200 for 580 8gb then it's a pointless purchase.

>>59950406
reference probably will be 200
would strictly depend on new cooler performance if reference worth buying or not

the only reason I stayed away from reference is blower cooler

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>>59950048
>another rebrand

>>59950406
>most if not all 480 8gb can clock to 1350 mhz
Yes but the xtr 580s are all in the 1425-1450 range ootb, with 1500mhz range being the probable oc limit. 1340 is reference which just might be $200 and still have some oc room thanks to new cooler.

The RX 570 8GiB seems to be the best value as long as it's cheaper than the RX 470 8GiB.

Some shops have them for sale already

http://www.kmcomputer.de/shopware.php?sViewport=detail&sArticle=25394

They are a bit overpriced if you ask me.

Shit I just bought a RX 480 couple of weeks ago.

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>>59950542

>>59950556
Don't worry the 580 is a rebrand

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>>59950592

>>59950592
That's 6+8, you blind retard.

>>59950592
185w TDP ayyyy
>its a 8+6 tho

I just got a GTX 1070 and im happy with it

>>59950103
get it? because amd gpu only competes with intels cpu gpu

nvidia is a real gpu.

>>59950879
XDDDDDDDDD epik joke, Pajeet!

>>59950048
What a waste of time - or perhaps not, it probably didn't take that much time to replace the 4 with a 5 on the RX 480 boxes. That's - seriously - the only difference.

>>59950406
If you don't have a GPU or an old GPU then it would make total sense to buy the RX 480 if the prices on those go down due to the RX 580. If the RX 580 is cheaper then that makes sense.

Obviously it makes zero sense to buy any of the 4xx re-branded 5xx cards if you already have a 4xx card.

>>59950477
this.

>>59950556
Don't feel bad. The RX 580 is the same shit in a new box. Just draw a 5 on a piece of paper and tape that over the 4 on your box and you're all up to date.

One of the biggest selling-points for the RX 580 is a "new cooler on the reference card". Not everyone will add new coolers, though, the MSI 480 and 580's, for example, are as good as identical.

>>59950986
adoredtv unironically defended this shit

>>59951004
he did not though

>>59950986
Where can I buy these stickers?

I have a RX 470 so I'd like the RX 570 sticker.

>>59950940
>>59950566
just a rebrand.

Just a shitty rebrand of a year-old card and it still outperforms its more expensive Nvidia equivalent.

Really makes you think.

>>59951004
Have you watched the video or are you talking out of your ass as usual?

*COUGH scorpio

>>59951011
except he did. he started off about how ati were the first to do rebrands but then went on the how bad apparently nvidia are for copying them and that the 580 rebrand is acceptable if you compare it to what nvidia did in 2002. it was literally a whole damage control fest where he tried to cover up amd's rebrands with what nvidia did 20 years ago. he didn't even mention the rebranded 300 series yet went through the comprehensive history of nvidia's rebrands.

but he's unbiased and the best reviewer amirite?

>>59950712
SOMEBODY CALL NINE ONE ONE
8+8 FOR MIDRANGE PIECE OF SHIT REBRAND

>>59951232
He causes immense frustration to underage Nvidia fangirls like yourself, so he's the best reviewer, yes.

>>59951248
kek

>>59951248
but i own an r9 390 msi gaming 8g back at home

i got it for free but wouldn't pay a penny for it. it's not worth it.

>>59951248
>Implying anyone with a brain watches and takes that poofter seriously

>>59951232
What a dumb goy. He literally says at the end of the video that rebrands slow innovation and ignorant suckers like you keep buying them and promoting this business model.

>>59951276
i'm not buying a 580 like 90% of the people in this thread will though. the people he's marketing to in all his vids are the ones who he is talking about holding the industry back. ironic.

>>59951273
You guys run straight here and make a thread crying about it every time he posts a new video. When that stops happening, I might believe that you've gotten over him, lads.

>>59950712
at least king poojeet decided not to melt pci-e slots this time
he will set your whole house on fire for change

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>>59951313
as opposed to all the hate posts against everyone from linus to HUB because they don't call amd the best thing ever?

l m a o

>>59951330
>they don't call amd the best thing ever?
Linus did though. And HU are confirmed Intel shills

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>>59951363
>And HU are confirmed Intel shills

who's crying now?

>>59951301
Please point at me at what time in the video he recommends the RX580.

>>59951374
please point at me what time in the video he explicitly says don't buy amd or the rx 580 and talks about anything other than a history lesson on nvidia rebrands.

>>59951373
Crying over what? You fanboys are dumb as bricks.

>>59950477
i.e. how the GPU industry worked for 20 years and will continue to work for the next 20 years.

In less than a year Nvidia is going to rebrand Pascal as 1150, 1160 and 1170.

>all the rebranded amd cards are recognized as the older ones in the new crimson drivers
>shitton of threads about this on the amd forums
>windows 10 freaks out about this because it sees the new drivers as incorrect ones and lets you install them but WON'T let you uninstall them (???) (you literally NEED to use DDU)
>amd's official response is "j-just ignore it"

I swear to god I will never fall for the amd meme again

I'm sorry nvidia, please let me come back

>>59951414
>how the GPU industry worked for 20 years and will continue to work for the next 20 years.
Also applies to the CPU industry.

More like relaunch thread XDDDD

>>59951390
Except every time Nvidia rebranded is because they're dirty jews, like it happened with the GT 260 and the GTS 250/240/8800GTS.

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>>59951458
how much are amd paying you? they rebranded a perfectly capable card and charged more money for it despite it having literally 2 fps difference at max in most games even with the higher clocks and ram speeds.

are you going to defend this?

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>>59950712

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Fastest 480 factory overclock is 1342
580 Aorus XTR is 1439

Having a card that will achieve higher factory clocks than OC model has to be the best rebrand ever.

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>>59951458
>>59951474
and here's an example of the minuscule performance differences, in an amd gaming evolved optimized title.

>>59951431
fucking EPIC troll

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>>59951485

>>59951474
How much is Nvidia paying you? You know, they also did this, several times.

Are you going to defend this, too?

>>59951488
>troll

haven't checked the forums lately, have you?

>>59951474
>charged more money for it
Stop lying on the internet. it cost exactly the same as the 290x 8GB.

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>>59951500
nope. pretty much all their rebrands had a lower cost compared to the original rebrand e.g. 680 > 770 etc. the 680 was $440 when the 770 released and the 770 was $40 cheaper and also faster in general and wasn't a straight rebrand as it had many other features (even adored tv said this).

the 290x was ~$300 when the 390x released and the 390x was over $120 more despite having pretty much no extra features. i don't even think it had DCC. it was a literal rebrand with more ram (which has been factually tested to not even be an advantage for the 3xx series over 2xx series).

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JUST RELEASE POLARIS AGAIN

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>>59951580
>$120 more despite having pretty much no extra features
>more ram

>ram is free

>>59951580
you could flash a 680 to have the same "features" as the 770. Nvidia literally jewed 680 owners by not enabling all features that were on the chip.

390x cost the same as 290x 8GB, so quit fucking lying.

>>59951580
You are one dedicated shill, aren't you?

>>59951556
the 8gb 290x wasn't $430 when the 390x released. it was only $50 more than the 4gb 290x.

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>>59951497
1500+ for +$10 than last years model

>>59951634
still not worth an extra $100

http://www.techspot.com/review/1114-vram-comparison-test/page5.html

>As for the 4GB R9 290 vs. 8GB R9 390 comparison, there was nothing to see here. Most games didn’t consume more than 4GBs of VRAM, but there were cases such as in Assassin's Creed Syndicate where with almost 5GBs of memory usage, there was still not a single frame difference. Moreover, in this Assassin's Creed Syndicate example the 290 and 390 were good for just 26fps on average, so clearly the quality settings will need to be reduced for achieving playable performance and consequently memory use will drop.

>The 390 and 390X are really graphics cards we never wanted. At the time of their release the Radeon R9 290 and 290X were exceptional buys. The 290X cost just $330, while today the 390X costs around $100 more for no additional performance and it is no different with the 290 and 390.

>We see plenty of gamers claiming that the 390 and 390X are excellent buys due to their 8GB frame buffer ensuring that they are "future proofed," and well, that simply isn’t the case, as neither GPU has the horsepower to efficiently crunch that much data. Perhaps the only valid argument here is that the larger frame buffer could support Crossfire better, but we haven’t seen any concrete evidence of this yet.

people will still defend this yet criticize any other company who does this. /g/ really is amd central.

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>>59951678

>>59951650
>make only truthful posts with evidence to back it
>s-shill
>w-why are you n-not calling AMD your l-lord and s-saviour

christ

>>59951731
What evidence? Pulling numbers out of your ass is not considered "evidence".

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>>59951745
>purposely ignoring the anandtech price picture >>59951580

ayy lmao

>>59951694
>8GB frame buffer ensuring that they are "future proofed," and well, that simply isn’t the case
actually it is the case now.

>>59950048

I'm not really expecting miracles on the performance side of things - consider yourselves lucky if the performance jump reaches 10%. I am curious on the other hand, about one slide where AMD claims better power consumption on multimonitor, even if I most probably end up not buying one. That's what made me sell my 280x in favor of a 970.
I always have my pc streaming something on the second monitor (6-7 hours/day), and this scenario is where AMD shits the bed currently. Measured at the wall, I got a whooping 170w consumption on my pc with the 280x, which dropped to much more reasonable 90w for the 970. With our electricity prices, I save roughly 50€/year on the card alone. That's 100€ in 2 years that can go for a better gpu upgrade instead.
If AMD does fix this, I can seriously consider them on my next upgrade.

>>59951769
i don't see anyone with 4gb gpu's struggling to run the latest games. my best friend has a 290x and he can even run shadow of mordor with the 6gb texture setting on his 4gb card with no performance impact or stuttering.

the same goes for the gtx 970 even with its slow partition. 8gb being a necessity is a meme until there is comprehensive evidence that proves any gpu with a lesser amount of vram can't run the latest games properly, or at all.

>>59951801
I've ran shadow of mordor on 770 with 6Gb setting
it was terrible compared to running it on my current 390

So this is what the rebrand performance looks like

RX580
RX570=RX480
RX470

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>>59951869
More importantly

if it aint broke why should they fix it?

I don't get what's wrong about this

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>>59951869
huh? power consumption matters again?
so running i7 at 200W is not okay then? good to know

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Anyone still remembers how the MSI was the most silent RX 480? It's the opposite now.

>>59951916
the king is back!

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>>59951787

This just in: no they fucking didn't

>>59951879
>weaker older gpu performs worse than a stronger and more modern gpu

wow stop the presses!

>>59951916
noooooooooooooooooooo, I don't want to peel off my msi swag stickers, I just got them on last yerar

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>>59951935

They did improve on media playback though, that's half of it done at least

>>59951944
is it even a test? run real renderer god

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huh, tw3 60fps barrier finally broken on budget card

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>>59951901
before: 3% slower than 1060
now: 5% faster than 1060
how is this bad again?

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Sapphire/RX_580_Nitro_Plus/33.html

it seems the 580 is literally just a maxed out 480 since it can't even overclock very far. 4.4% is laughable.

>>59950048
>Rebranded card for the same price as last year's
>Don't even get a free game with it like the 1060
It's DOA.

>nitro

do they really use nitrous oxide in graphic cards?

>>59951984
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Gigabyte/GTX_1080_Ti_Xtreme_Gaming/33.html

>Actual 3D performance gained from overclocking is 3.5%.

NVIDIA BTFO

>>59951989
>No Ubishit game activated through GoyForce Experience
>Outperforms the 1060 across the board
>Still cheaper

The 1060 is dead.

>>59951999
yeah but cmon mate that thing is already overclocked to 2.0 ghz out of the box. the rx 580 is supposed to have overclocked headroom to over 1500 mhz according to people who have been posting about it all week in threads. we already know the current generation of pascal tops out at 2.0ghz.

>>59951978
It could be 50% better in every metric but nvidiots will claim its the wrong colour and therefore a failure

>>59951955
it's nice to have. i watch way more youtube/streams than i play games

>>59951431
>>all the rebranded amd cards are recognized as the older ones in the new crimson drivers
Why wouldn't they be? They are the older ones with a new box and a new sticker and perhaps slightly higher boost-clock...

>>59951474
>ebranded a perfectly capable card and charged more money for
>are you going to defend this?
If the release of the RX580 moves the price of hte RX480 down then yes, I'll defend that as great. If the price of the RX580 is set higher and the RX480 doesn't go down in price so I can buy that for a rig I'm building for a nephew then AMD Fuck You.

>>59951650
>You are one dedicated shill, aren't you?
If I was actually paid to shitpost on a forum then I too would be one amazingly dedicated shill. Sadly, I'm not paid by anyone for doing this so Intel, fuck you. Amd, fuck you. Xiaomi, fuck you. Lenovo, fuck you.

>>59951935
>>59951944

But meanwhile tomsshillware claims both improved, so what gives?

>>59951978
5% faster for an aib 580 card clocked at 1400mhz compared to a bog standard stock 1060 is nothing to gloat about. i bet any aftermarket 1060 can match that in relative performance. i'm not even fanboying either, it's simple logic.

Is UVD and VCE parts of the die updated on these? Does it have native VP9 hardware decoding?

>>59952049
well, they could at least bother to have the device ID be correctly recognized by the driver so windows doesn't freak the fuck out. but they can't even do that, lazy pajeet fucks

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>>59952084
it's slower than a 1060 at stock?

what the fug

>>59952106
>0.48 FPS less
ITS SLOWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!OMG!!!!!!!!1111!!!!!1

>>59951756
>>purposely ignoring the anandtech price picture

anandtech is not a re-seller. Prices listed there means absolutely nothing. This is not a statement relating to your pic related specifically, btw. I live in Europe and I only care about what I can buy things for locally. The "listing" prices for Ryzen from AMD, for example, has nothing even remotely to do with reality.

>>59951869
How can this possibly be true? The RX 580 is just the RX 480 with a slightly higher boost clock, they are identical cards apart from that. How the flying f... does it have a that much higher power consumption? This makes zero sense.

>>59951885
nah, it's more like
RX 580 = RX 480
RX 570 = RX 470
Seriously, they are the same cards with a minor increase in boost clocks.

>>59952119
w-what? it should be faster considering it's overclocked...

>>59952106
>000.48 slower
>margin of error
>IT'S SLOWER

come on, when will you learn these numbers are not absolute?
want real benchmark watch people doing game runs with afterburner on for prolonged time

>>59950048
>Okay, but what’s XTR, XTX and XL?

what
the
fuck

Is it binning?

>>59952128
it is, it doesn't drop 15% of it's clock more than 5 minutes into the game like nvidia

>>59952146
but the graph shows otherwise

also that's impressive if the 1060 is still ahead even with throttling

is there a 1060 refresh coming or shall i just pick up a regular 1060 evga?

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>>59951905
>huh? power consumption matters again?

I have a 65W CPU because that's the highest I'm willing to buy so I can have a (mostly) fan-less 140W TDP cooler.

I specifically went for the RX 470 and not the RX480 because the MSI cards have the exact same cooler on both and the RX470 has a lower TDP and apart from a lower clock these are the exact same cards. This means that the GPU-fan doesn't spin since the GPU will only reach 60C when playing the most demanding games.

I prefer silence to noise. Also, I'm an adult and I don't live in my mother's basement so I pay my own electricity bill.

>>59951916
The MSI RX 470 (what I have) is still the most silent RX 470.

>>59952105
Well, they call the die "Polaris 20" and "rx 550" has a new die "Polaris 12". I can't find any confirmation of any changes from 4xx series though, was wondering if any reviewers checked it

>>59952158
>still considering a 1060
???????
i bet you'd also get an i5

>>59952158
What do you get out of pretending to be stupid on 4chan? Do you like being abused? Post Kik if so.

if the 500 series has the same price as 400 then there's literally nothing to complain.

i hope that pushes nvidia to also release something or to bring the prices down (lol).

>>59952158
>also that's impressive if the 1060 is still ahead even with throttling

benchmarks are under 5 minutes.
are you trying to be retarded?

>>59952176
this graph shows its faster than the new gpu >>59952084 from amd. why would i buy the slower one? it seems the 580 will be more expensive too

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So funny watching AMDrones defend this. No matter how bad you shill this rebrandeon the 1060 will outsell it 10:1.

>>59951944
People watch... blueray? like .. on a disc? like what supposedly goes into my computers coffee cup holder?

>>59952019
>overclocked headroom to over 1500 mhz
That's just foolish bullshit. You can overclock a CPU to a zillion mhz with liquid nitrogen but nobody's going to run a computer like that and almost nobody's going to take their GPU apart and put a water cooling block on it so they can overclock and brag on the internet. And if you are going to do that you might as well do it with the "older" RX 480's anyway. I'm sure those too can be overclocked way high with liquid nitrogen - but again, nobody cares, not even a little.

Will AMD release a 590 or something along those lines? I am looking for something similar to the GTX 1080 in price and performance from AMD.
>imb4 just get a 1080
I want to encourage competition but I am willing to just get the 1080.

>>59952229
>nvidia never rebranded their cards

>>59952229
It's even funnier watching the relentless shilling from Nvidia fangirls. There's already been about 20 threads today.

You poorfags enjoy fighting over which of the 1060 and 580 is slightly less shit. I'll be chilling with my 1080. :^)

>>59952226
and this one doesn't >>59951978
maybe you should read the actual fucking benchmarks instead of basing your opinion on a single image from 4chan.
also there are other benefits like freesync support, better dx12 and more vram.

>>59952250
It's been over 2 years since they even made a flagship card besides the 390x and fury x so I doubt it maybe Vega will come at some point but for now they need mainstream GPUs and CPUs to sell and selling well they are.

Shame they won't pull their finger out and release Vega already I've been waiting over a bloody year

>>59952265
I remember the 680 and 770 where identical and the 8800 got rebranded across 3 gens hahaha

>>59952285
Guess I'll just wait a little longer

>>59952247

Replace bluray with any type of media playback then. I noticed even lightweight decoding to vlc/mpc would sometimes jump my 280x to max clocks. But an even worse offender is how a lot of websites still insist on flash based players. That's what reached the 170w I mentioned in >>59951787

>>59952060
>>59952105
>Is UVD and VCE parts of the die updated on these? Does it have native VP9 hardware decoding?

http://wiki.webmproject.org/hardware/socs

Things that have VP9 hardware decoding:
[ ] $300 AMD GPU
[x] $100 /csg/ cellphone
[x] $1000 Nvidia GPU

>>59952073
Well said.

>>59952285
Something tells me that nvidia's performance gap will have increased so much that VEGA will just be some mid-range card when it finally hits the stores-shelves.

>>59952250
obligatory "wait for vega".

they haven't said anything new. i wouldn't expect it before june.

>>59952279
yeah but like i also said it looks to be more expensive.

so which is better evga or zotac? they're both offering cheap models under $200 for 6gb

>>59952302
Sadly Anon here is right Vega will be 1070-1080 level performance for 3/4 of the price at best.

If it ends up to be useless dogshit like the rx480/580 that can't even beat ancient 290x/390x housefires I'll just keep my 390x forever it's fine for 1080p and 4k useless still because no single gpu can give 60-100fps+ with high settings

AMD doesn't even really compete with Nvidia anymore, at least not directly. They're basically relegated to "just keep them honest" status by being an alternative option to one out of every ten or so buyers, and that'll always be at the budget or mid-range level from here on out.

Nvidia is so powerful at this point that it doesn't really matter.

why didn't they just release cards like these off the bat

>>59952418
LPP wasn't ready

>>59952418
amd incompetency

>>59952418
The power consumption and heat would have been through the roof if they tried to crank them to these clockspeeds before the process improved.

>>59952418
Same reason all Geforce 700 series cards were rebrands.

VEGA WHEN?

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>Vega won't come out
>stuck with a refresh that's within 8% at absolute best of what they replace
Is AMD kill? Is this where they throw in the towel and we get shafted by Nvidia having no competition forever?

>>59952890

>Vega won't come out


Says who?

>>59952924
>Vega won't come out in any reasonable period of time
i thought my wording was obvious

>>59950477
You do know Vega is going to be the new arch, and we knew from the get-go this was going to be a rebrand, right?

>>59952942
computex

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>>59952954
O S O I

>>59952517
Ummm the GTX 700 series wasn't all rebrands.

is AMD seriously still rebranding the 7000 series cards?

>>59952418
Because it's hard to find where your weak points are in the fabrication process until you go through with the fabrication process. Once you have some real feedback you can make some small changes to the layouts, the routing, and the critical paths.

Yeah this is pretty embarrassing.

Least they're keeping the prices the same, so if you spend $229 you at least get a 580

What is the point in this card?

Why the fuck did they even bother?

It is about time they released something to compete against the 1070/1080 not a fucking refresh of a 480 that is less than 6 months old and only 5fps slower

Fuck AMD and fuck Pajeet. .

so whats /g/'s verdict on the patricians choice?

i build a R5 1600 rig last week, but didnt buy a new graphics card, because of the 5XX launch.

should i get one of the new cards, or wait till the prices drop for the 480?

>>59953254
>What is the point in this card?
Cryptominning

>Why the fuck did they even bother?
test new 14nn before vega

>>59953266
>480 price drops
They're not making anymore, and they've been going on sale pretty frequently already. You can get a decent aftermarket 480 for $190, a blower model for as low as $170 if you look really hard. Depends on how much money you want to save.

>>59953266
the patricians choice is r5 1600 + gtx 1070

>>59953266
Get whatever is cheaper, you might overclock a 480.

>>59953355
This. But if you are tight on budget you should buy a 480.

>>59951935
Good, no one gives a shit about an extra couple bucks a month on their power bill.

>>59951021
Don't commit GPU fraud, Jamal!
Smart people will notice.

Looking at the pictures of the cards available on newegg, everything looks like it's only a single 8pin. Why is everything else saying its an 8pin plus a 6pin?

>>59951486
AMD Title
>well optimised and works great on everything

Nvidia title
>runs bad on Nvidia and even worse on AMD

Tell my why AMD titles are bad again

>>59953410

>the "no one should care about anything other than performance" argument again

A couple dollars a month is $50 in 2 years, which is a reasonable time for an upgrade. And those are $50 achieved by sacrificing nothing, which can then be put into, for instance, an higher performance gpu.

>>59953156
What the fuck. 210W was the most I saw on my RX 480 at 1450MHz

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Its a rebadge with a 10% performance gain and better overclockability, at the same launch prices, its not bad desu

>>59953934
i haven't had a problem with any nvidia game. as far as i've seen most people don't either since they still sell like hotcakes e.g. for honor

>>59954068
>$50 in TWO years
>TWO years
>YWO
really pulling at straws. if you're that poor that $50 every two years matter's that most then maybe you should reevaluate your life. actually, reevaluate it even if its $50 every six months.,

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>>59954123
DELET DIS

>>59954199

I just KNEW you would come down to the "are you a poorfag" argument

It's not a matter that I need, it's that I have the option. I would be a poorfag if I was giving up something to save money. But no, I chose the product A, that allowed me a lower electricity bill, with zero drawbacks to my use case over product B. That's not being a poorfag, that's buying wisely. And if you can really tell me you would go for product B because "lol I don't care", then let's just stop, you're only looking to start an argument.

You know, people spending unnecessarily on shit they don't need is exactly how they become poorfags, not the opposite.

>>59951247
>2017
>8+8 pin
>2018
>24 pin
PINLETTS BTFO

>>59954425
>cant afford $50 every 2 years
rajesh poo in the loo

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>tfw missed out on 8 GB 480s under 200
They were asking that much yesterday but now that AMD has released the exact same card they're 40 dollars more :(

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I think my GPU is dying. Sometimes, when I turn on my computer, I get this. But I just have to turn my computer off and on again and everything is normal... Performance in games and stuff is the same even. It's the weirdest thing.

Anyways, is the RX 550 good enough to handle like low settings at 1440p? I'm thinking of picking one up and using it until Vega and Volta come out to get a proper GPU since my GPU is probably dying.

>>59950406
>if you can pick up a 480 8gb for like $170
4GB maybe, but 8GB are still at least $200USD if I shop around the block.

>>59955089
Is all of that bleeding? Woah. And yes, almost any card after the 750ti will be enought for 1400p at low. I think the 550 will be just a little faster 750ti with new shit on it.

>>59955141
The camera exaggerates how bad the bleeding is a lot, but it's still there. And thanks.

>>59954937
The prices haven't changed at all over the past week, for amazon and newegg at least. Just canceled my order for a 480, trying to decide between gigabyte, powercooler, and sapphire for a 580 now.

>>59950048
>nvidia launches ti cards
oh wow such innovation
>amd launches 5xx cards
AYYMD REBRANDEONS

you're funny shills

>>59955114
>>>59950406
>>if you can pick up a 480 8gb for like $170
>4GB maybe, but 8GB are still at least $200USD if I shop around the block.

You are retarded the 8gb is 179

>>59950048
we told you to wait for Vega™

RX580 bios dump when
can't wait to upgrade my RX480

>>59958465

I don't have either but you're comparing Nvidia releasing a GPU marginally more powerful, less power hungry and significantly cheaper than their last year's top performer (Titan XP), to AMD releasing a lineup marginally more powerful, more power hungry and just as expensive as their last year's (Polaris), and saying they did the same thing.

Find me a 580 8gb for less than 300 Canada bucks that isn't reference cooler and I'll buy it.

REEEEEE.

We get taxed out the ass, AND our dollar is worth less.

>>59951984
nitro was never a good overclocker
>>59955089
try downclocking it a few mhz, if its still shitty, remove the cooler and oven bake it on loose tinfoil balls in a preheated oven @ 375° for 8 minutes.

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>>59950048

whats better, rx580 8gb or r9 fury 4gb

/g/ tell meeeeee

>>59958958
What do you have right now? How much do you want to spend? R9 fury is outdated, if you want flagship then wait(tm) for vega.

AYYMD REBRANDEON HOUSEFIRES

>look for charts
>reviewers never feature a r9 390
>always a 390x instead
wtf is my card better than this new turd 580 or not?

>>59958465
The TI cards are not rebrands, they have more cuda cores and shit. But Nvidia is rumored to rebrand the 10 series this year so that they have something between now and Volta. Allegedly the main difference will be the *70 card gets GDDR5X.

>>59958957
I did that already. It didn't help. I'm going to wait for more symptoms to appear before I do anything drastic though. I'm also going to try taking out my GPU and booting up a few times to see if it could somehow be a problem with my motherboard.

my 480 GTR is already hitting about 1400MHz easily, would there be a noticeable difference if I switched to a 580?

>>59959535
>noticeable
no

>rx480 could easily be had for £220
>rx580 going for £300
Welp. At that point I might as well buy a 1070.

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>>59959595
SIR PLEAS

>>59959595
YOU ARE WORSE THAN BRITISH. I HAVE FAMILY, THEY NEED TO EAT. PLEASE DO THE NEEDFUL AND BUY AMD RX 500 SERIES GPU.

>>59959595
I only see one card with an actual price on pcpartpicker. Just wait. Although if things stay at that point it does look like they just priced themselves out of the UK market.

>got a 470 for $90

>completely happy with the purchase, no complaints

Fresh out of hecks

https://www.hardocp.com/article/2016/05/27/from_ati_to_amd_back_journey_in_futility

>In the simplest terms AMD has created a product that runs hotter and slower than its competition's new architecture by a potentially significant margin.

He warned you, but you wouldn't listen

>>59958958
Technically the R9 Fury will outperform the 480/580, but only buy it on a sale (~$220) or wait for Vega.

>>59952890
Meh

I'm just going to keep running my GTX-780Ti until Vega reviews get released.

And if that's not impressive enough, I'll wait for Vega20 / nVidia equivalent and make my choice then.

>>59953247
>Least they're keeping the prices the same
They aren't, though.

The RX400 series was selling below MSRP at this point of its product lifecycle. AMD has now rebranded binned RX400s and called them RX500s in an effort to sell them again for MSRP instead of the rebates and sales that were the only thing moving the RX400s from shelves.

>>59952265
they at least drop one number x70 to x60 for example, while amd just keeps on lying that "580 is totally new card XDDDD"

fuck amd

>>59950704
>im happy with it

This is all that should matter whether AMD/Intel/nVidia

>>59953200
No

>>59953355
Unironically this

>>59950556
It's an overclocked rebranding of the rx 480. All you have to do is overclock.

>>59955089
>that display
pls don't be an nvidia GPU
pls

>>59955213
if you're getting powercooler, only get their devil brand
sapphire? nitro and up only

The best 480 aib cards are almost always 180 burger bucks the last few months. Hell furys can be had for 200 to 230 dollars. Good times.

>>59953266
wait for vega

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Is 1070 worth the price upgrade over 580?

>>59953266
1600+RX580 for sane price. Then you can sell 580 and buy Vega if you need it. Dont listen to 1070 fags its not worth it with no freesync and new cards on the horizon.

>>59961124
It is, but why is that important? My post has a sample size of 1, and these companies sell millions of GPUs. There are going to be a few duds from every company.

>>59961341
1070 isn't even worth comparing with a 580, the rx 580 is just like the rx 480, they're budget mainstream cards
1070 isn't budget, it's the lowest of the high end Nvidia gpus

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WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT
IT'S TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE

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>>59961378
because it's always Nvidia on 4chan that seems to be suffering
always
pic related

>>59961341
What is your display

>>59961474
Staying at 1080p for a while I'd imagine

>>59959765
shiiiit
i wanted to believe that this silence is about something big

>>59961499
Why would you need a 1070 for 1080p 60hz gaming?

an 8GB 480/580 is more than enough for that, though I'd maybe stick to a 500 series for the possibility of hitting 1500mhz

>>59961499
This guy's chip hits over 1500mhz, though it's a power color golden sample

sapphire also has a limited edition card that hits 1450mhz out of the box, but may not OC much past that

http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/powercolor_radeon_red_devil_rx580_8gb_golden_sample/4.htm

Those aren't really worth it unless you're super into overclocking

>>59961431
it's a mistake. That seller just launched and every listing is for $400 for some reason.

>>59961453
I've seen a few people mention broken AMD cards on /g/, but I doubt /g/ is even big enough to get a representative sample size. Plus board partners have more responsibility for failures when using non reference PCBs.

>>59961431
>>59961554
More likely a scam if it's a new seller, some people were listing R7 1700s for $299 on amazon on launch day

>>59961563
If your GPU breaks outside of extreme overclocking it's always your fault

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>>59961577
>If your GPU breaks outside of extreme overclocking it's always your fault
Not really. Sometimes the GPU has problems straight from the manufacturer. Here's pic related from EVGA.
For AMD there's that shitshow about some faggot with a cheap ass dinky mobo burning his PCI-E using an rx480.

I've got an old 980, would a 580 be a decent upgrade from it?

>>59961879
If you want a free-sync display maybe

>>59961879

>trading down by 400

Why?

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>>59951916
Sapphire listened to the criticsm, I like it.

>>59961879
Nvidia high end cards generally last a bit unlike their lower or mid range offerings. 980 is hard to upgrade from unless you spend major scratch.

>>59951916
what the fuck are they doing over at MSI
they had one good thing going with AMD and then they mess up

>>59961879
>trading high end before it got unseated by 980ti for a budget AMD GPU
No. If you had a 970, then yes.

>>59961879
Basically 980 = 390x = RX 580
minor differences in speed

Should I upgrade my crossfire 290's to 580's?

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>>59962056
Waaait for Vega or be a good goy and buy jen hsun's 1080/ti

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>tfw got meme'd big time with my current 970
>it was fine until I moved up from 1080p
>want to upgrade but don't want to jump the gun if Volta or Vega are going to be substantial improvements and I'm stuck behind the curve
>conversely I might spend so much time waiting to drop a premium on a brand new architecture and get meme'd on again by it being not worth the money or some unforseen problem
>tfw I get like this every time I start looking to upgrade my gpu
It's fucking nerve wracking.

>>59958495
Source?

>>59962056
The performance would be the same but you could cut your power consumption by 50% or more by undervolting 480s/580s, just wait for Vega

>>59950048
V E G A W H E N
E
G
A

W
H
E
N

>>59961920
They also gave you an extra of 50W power draw to compete with Nvidias 1080, good guy Sapphire.

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It's tiny

>>59951414
Pascal wasn't a rebrand of Maxwell
Maxwell wasn't a rebrand of Kepler

Okay Kepler was a bit of a rebrand of Fermi....

>>59951711
Nice
So we have pretty much all xtr cards at over 1500mhz easy
>>59951916
oh my
>>59952066
$200 reference card 6.1fps under 1070, nvidia needs to get its dx12 shit together
>>59959535
if you have a 400 series already, just keep it.
>>59961920
bout time
>>59962996
a cute

So I guess Vega will be the 600 series?

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Nvidia shills BTFO

>>59952954

Just keep waiting™

>>59961378
>>59961453
Ok, I just removed my GPU from my computer and am only using the integrated graphics now. I'm getting a lot of weird graphical issues, like my mouse being slow to update and the screen flickering. I'm going to do a lot more poking around to see if I can narrow down the problem, but I'm leaning towards it being my motherboard now.

>>59963753
use ddu to uninstall drivers. Then right click on your pc in device manager and check for hardware changes.
>>59963276
finewine™
mantle/gcn were sleeper, look at them slot right in a gen behind each other. well it took the 580 to finally top 390/x

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>>59950048
AYYYMDPOOJEETS ON SUICIDE WATCH

>>59952952
>I'll shoot you
>*shoots you*
>Why are you complaining? I SAID I was going to shoot you!

>>59963275
Nah, it's literally called RX Vega/Vega X.

I'd really be interested in seeing one of these new 580s, like the new sapphire or powercolor with the ridiculous clocks overclocked to 1550ish with the memory strapped with the 1500 timings clocked at around 2100. That would be some beastly performance there, easily 10-15% over stock 480 if not more

>>59963999
I wish somebody shot some 580 at me

>>59950449
There is no reference 580

>>59965107
>There is no reference 580
it's the first pic in op link :/

>>59952123
Absolutely disgusting. My non-X Fury throttles itself at 75C. It can do 80 but that's too hot for my liking.

>>59952278
I just wanted to say that I'm content with my Fury (paid tree fiddy), still laughing at the 400/500/1060 faggots hahaha

>>59950048
In light of this, I think I'm just going to buy another r9 Fury on the cheap and do crossfire.

>>59965564
It's ok anon. They're laughing at you too.

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AYYMD REBRANDEON HOUSEFIRES

>>59963276
Funny how AMD cards just marginally drop in performance when a game uses more VRAM than they have.
But Nvidia cards just fucking commit suicide when a game is allocating more VRAM than they have.

Planned obsolescence at its finest.

>>59966520
>234w is a housefire now
>480w Fermi was okay
>300watt 7700k overclock is okay

No one cares about power consumption when it's still under 350watts.

>>59966642
>d-d-d-dd--ddd-dd-del--l-l-idd--ddd-d tth-his p-p-leas-s-sss-e

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>pic related

just give me some review of this card. XFX GTR was top- tier on rx 480

>>59962996
Are there any reviews of this yet?

I should probably wait to replace my r9 280 then.

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>>59966740
>stutter i7 7700k 5.1Ghz 1.55V

>>59951634
4gb is plenty.
(I have 8 but maybe 1% of the games even pass 2GB of VRAM on high textures. RS6 Siege uses some 3GB with the ultra-extra-high-definition textures that make loading times extra long so no one uses them anyway.)

>>59951711
Kinda sad a new card cannot beat the 1060.

>>59966705
The power color golden sample has his 1500+mhz in a review

https://www.techpowerup.com/232498/rx-480-cards-can-successfully-be-flashed-to-rx-580

AYYMD REBRANDEON HOUSEFIRES

>>59969292
You just know they had that articles written out for months just without any specifics.

>>59966642
>480w Fermi was okay
>not finding satisfaction in the fact that a 480 consumes 480w

>>59966789
Same here but i got a R9 280x.

>>59963863
>to finally top 390/x
Which are just 290/290X with more VRAM and tweaked clocks.

>>59970322
>more VRAM
???

>>59970595
290/290X came out with 4GB, 390/390X with 8GB.

>>59953337
Wait, really? They aren't making 480s anymore? Source?

>>59951879
As someone who made a similar upgrade path (680 4GB heavy OC to R9 290 heavy OC), no shit it runs better. That's not a VRAM thing, that's a "this card is 50% better" thing.

Swapping my 980ti for one of these

Fuck nvidiots

>>59971128
I believe you poojeet.

>>59970675
why come there are 290x with 8 gb then?

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>>59952952
>just wait! vega will come!
How much longer

WE'RE SO FUCKED

>>59971305
Special models, the standard was 4GB. You really that new that you don't remember when the R9 200s came out?

>>59969425
>not finding satisfaction in the fact that a 480 consumes 480w
That's actually poetic.

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>>59966705
unknown xfx at 1520, I believe the new top xfx card is the gtr-s

>>59963014
Maxwell performance wasn't much above Kepler, though power draw was much better.

>>59971466
I just want to be able to buy a 144hz monitor without paying an extra $200 for Nvidia's Gsync. That's the only reason I'm holding out anymore, I have to replace this 1080@60 monitor that's a decade old.

>>59950704
This is what I did last fall because I got tired of waiting for vega. Holy shit am I glad I didn't wait for the 500 series.

>>59950048
WTF?
Where's Vega?

>>59972976
wait for it

>>59972111
my first videocard was a radeon hd 4850
forgive me for not remaining constantly vigilant after that
by the time the 290x/390x were coming out I had zero dollars to my name and was living with my parents
I still live with my parents but I get NEETBUX
so $u$

>>59963276
there's no way my 770 would shit the bed that hard

>>59973255
It does if you play on those settings.

Nvidia cards shit the bed when they run out of VRAM. AMD cards don't.

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>>59973255
>VRAMlet

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>>59963276
>390 is now a midrange card
2 years later that 280 bucks was good deal

>>59974915
got a strix 390x off cl for $160 late last year, everyone made fun of me. No fucks given, works great. Still beating 580 in most games.

>>59973377
No it doesn't. I own a 770 and there's no way I'd get frame drops like that.

>>59973255
You're right

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>>59975003
>I own a 770 and there's no way I'd get frame drops like that.
Substantiate your claims

So, i guess AMD are doing a 2 year cycle with their architecture... mainstream one year, next year enthusiast along with a mainstream refresh, then next year i assume we'll get an enthusiast refresh alongside a new mainstream architecture?

>>59971003
Anyone?

>polaris is so efficient
>rebrand with 6+8 pin
Fuck off AMD. Vega or GTFO.

When shoukd I upgrade from my MSI 390?

>>59975565
When Vega comes if it doesn't disappoint.

Otherwise I'd wait for a scallable architecture which could be Volta but is more likely to first come with Navi.

>>59975440
You're retarded if you think a 770 gets 10fps playing any game at 1080p, you can't even claim limited VRAM would affect the game at such low resolutions.

I would expect 10fps at 4K perhaps.

>>59962901
and the means to reduce it to 50W total power draw when you don't need 200 fps.

dynamic states>>>>>>>static

>>59961920
thicc
too bad they reduced the costs on the pcb.

>>59975728
>200 fps
What are you smoking? You will NEVER achiev 200 FPS on modern titles on high settings and even if, 230W power draw on a midrange GPU that competes with a 1060 ist just absurd.
I pass on this 6+8 pin fuckery, maybe a 8pin RX580, otherwise it's Vega for me unless it disappoints.

>>59975945
People sill play CSGO. Millions of people.

>>59976235
CSGO is 5 years old, hardly modern.

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>>59975692
>he goes on to lie to everyone's face by making a blanket statement
Nigger, get the game, copy the settings, and show us yourself
Or find another benchmark with the same settings and hardware

>>59950480
>overclocking polaris

do you have a deathwish or something? its not worth it, you get the best results by under volting

>>59976277
No one ever said "modern" games, but nice goalpost moving.

>>59959595
>£
470s going for 150 bongs all the time
totally smokes the 1050ti and 1060 which are way too expensive

>>59976376
Uh, he did say "modern titles" in >>59975945

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>>59976424
Uh, he never said "modern titles" in >>59975728

>>59976445
Now you're moving the goal posts. You said in >>59976376 "no one ever". >>59975945 is a someone.

>>59976456
Obviously I meant no one besides
>>samefag
Quit being a fag.

>>59951414

>eleventy series can't come fast enough