WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ADS ARE SHOWING UP ON NOTIFICATIONS NOW?!

don't call it a grave it's the future you chose

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>windows users

>we'll restart your device
>casually flaunting the fact they control you
kek, wincucks

Kek. Not even my windoews 10 phone gets those.

Just turn off onedrive notifications.

>folder options -> view -> show sync provider notifications -> untick.

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>>59933584
>>59933585

>having to do all kinds of bullshit to turn of adds in your OS

>>59933584
>Using the word "just" to end user

>>59933584
>>59933585
>having to do this in the first place
Not to mention all the other shit you need to turn off

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>>59933585
It is unticked. I unticked it since I got the explorer ad. I think this is a new one that doesn't need it ticked.

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>>59933534
http://fdossena.com/?p=w10debotnet/index_1703.frag

Thank me later

>>59933534
Pajeet going to restart your device at 5:23 OP.

>>59933678
Looks fishy as fuck, update apps in app store, seriously?

>>59933584
just stop showing ads in the OS you piece of shit

>b-but it's advertising Microsoft's own services
>b-b-but you can easily prepare for a reboot
>b-b-b-but you can turn it off if you tweak deeply hidden settings and it won't bother you until Our Benefactors push an update

How can you tolerate this?

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>>59933534
>VLC

>>59933754
Best UI. Apps.

t ex-Linux user

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>>59933763
>Apps.

>>59933717
If you don't do it will download them while you're doing the rest, reinstalling shit with it

>>59933534
This is what you get when you use Jew hardware

>>59933534
It's not an ad, it's a reminder ;)

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>>59933763
>Apps

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>>59933763
So in other words, muh games?

>>59933606
off"
fucking linux users...

You should use the cloud space they offer for free. It's a few gigs but I found it's the best and fastest way to share files between different devices, like between my PC and android phone.

Just save your crappy memes on the onedrive folder and you got instant access from every device on which you have one cloud.

Very convenient.
But yeah, I used to get that reminder like every once in a week in the past.

So, after I activated the default one drive storage, the reminder disappeared and I can now use their cloud storage for free. It's small but it's free and I don't plan to get any paid plans.

>>59933811
Games. Drivers. Better file manager and desktop utilities.

>>59933763
UI? What OS-specific UI-having programs do you use, apart from a file manager?

Owning an Apple computer has never felt more supreme.

BOTNET
O
T
N
E
T

>>59933868
>just use our services goy, we'll stop nagging you if you use our service, good goy

>>59933606
>muh out-of-the-box experience
>also expects privacy

kys

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>>59933534
>download wangblows 10
>block updates
>remove spyware
>change privacy settings

it just werks

disable suggestions for windows

OR

install gentoo

>>59933908
Same faggots who shit on Linux because they have to set up things before using them.

>>59933534
Just stop using Windows 10. Its not that hard.

>>59933921
Seriously, it's like they are never moving/adjusting things in real life while/before using them. Imagine sitting in a chair but never moving closer to the desk to do work. CHAIRS ARE SO DUMB LOL, I PREFER TO FUCKING SIT ON A FLOOR.

>>59933898
It's probably possible to disable that reminder. I used to get it very rarely, so it wasn't really annoying enough to try.

But eventually, as I said, I thought wtf I'll give it a try and it's not that bad. Free cloud storage. And solved one constant problem I had with finding a good app to share files between my pc and phone.

I also had/have google drive, but it's more of a hassle to upload on it. Takes more time and you have to be logged in on both devices.

>>59933860
Oh yeh, becuse your choce of OS determnes whteher you can spell or not. Really maks sense. I could spell perfctley whit Windows, now im on Linx i'ev lost all mastery of English.

Think about it before you post. It's one post, not the entire community

>Windows 10 users

-dig around for the right boxes to tick/untick
-run downloaded scripts to remove unwanted shit
-install a 'special' version of Wangblows to pretend they are immune from the Microshit botnet
-complain when Microshit resets all their personal settings and they have to go through the tick/untick process again
-then pretend all the time wasted doing all this is "easy"
-then after all that they say installing and running Linux is hard work
Fucking idiots

>>59933584
>>59933585
>Just turn it off, nothing to see here
Are shills even trying anymore?

Oh btw. I think it's possible to activate one drive, then go to Settings (it's in the system tray) and disable this:

>Start OneDrive automatically when I sign in to Windows

It might disable that reminder for good.

>>59933964
Whatever, as long as I can play my video games and surf Facebook, I don't care how much work I have to do

Windows > Linux

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>>59934004
>normalfags

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>>59934027
>animefags

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>>59934051
>complains about anime
>on anime website
>>>/reddit/

>>59933964
>Linux users

-dig around for hours for the right commands just to install their OS
-run downloaded scripts to install basic shit
-install new kernels every week to pretend they are immune to the Russian botnet
-take it up the ass when an update breaks all their personal settings and they have to go through the process of setting them all up over again.
-then pretend all the time wasted doing all this means they're "good with computers" and that they've "accomplished something."
-then after all that they say installing and running Linux is easy, because with their need to be contrarian to make themselves feel special, it's the only thing they have.

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>>59934078
>posting anime
>on a technology focused board
>>>/a/

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>>59933534
>>59933663

DELETE THIS

>>59934100
>Chair users

-weirdly shuffle around while moving towards the desk
-make weird noises while doing so
-may need to change chair height for good posture
-can't just lie down as easily

Take that from sittingonthefloormasterrace, you chairfags.

>>59934100
I don't think you have any idea how moronic you sound right now.

>>59933534
Did you read the EULA?
You agreed.

>>59934102
>>>/reddit/

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>windows

>>59934100
>-dig around for hours for the right commands just to install their OS
Wrong. All modern non-meme distros come with an graphic installer.
>-run downloaded scripts to install basic shit
Wrong. "basic shit" is included in repos, so I can install them using package manager.
>-install new kernels every week to pretend they are immune to the Russian botnet
If you really want to do it, that's ok.
>-take it up the ass when an update breaks all their personal settings and they have to go through the process of setting them all up over again.
Wrong. Even on Arch I didn't encounter any package wiping my ~/.config, /etc or xorg.conf after update.

I love back when windows 7 was "it just werks" and winfags complained how you needed to insert dozens of terminal commands to make linux usable. Now look how the page has turned, where you need third-party programs to disable spying, dig into the settings menu to disable oneshit and there are still more.

yeah but can u gayme on linux???

>>59934156
>if you can't find your way to toggle a couple radio buttons in the greatest desktop OS in history, what you need is Linux!
And when they come crying to you for tech support you'll just tell them to go back to Windows. So exactly why are you shilling Linux?

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>people pirate Microsoft software
>Microsoft isn't making adequate profits because of it
>now they complain about the ads that they have caused themselves

I sometimes wish 4chan wasn't such a pirate shithole.

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Your bot couldn't contact the command and control servers, you can not use your computer.

#justwindowsthings

>>59933534
>now

>>59933584
>implying any normie will find this out

>>59934102
what is wrong with posting anime?

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>> 2017
>> Pajeet

>>59934257
That's expected behavior, more or less.

Also exists on *nix

https://linux.die.net/man/8/watchdog

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Pajeet restarting your PC whenever he feels like it.

This thread reeks of freetard asspain.

It's like linex fags can't be happy using their niche os, that nobody heard about.

>>59934257
>>59934274

$ ps -ef -u root | grep watchdog
root        12     2  0 Mar29 ?        00:00:02 [watchdog/0]
root        15     2  0 Mar29 ?        00:00:02 [watchdog/1]
root        21     2  0 Mar29 ?        00:00:02 [watchdog/2]
root        27     2  0 Mar29 ?        00:00:02 [watchdog/3]
root        46     2  0 Mar29 ?        00:00:00 [watchdogd]
....

Also exists on Linux.

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>>59934296
>linex
GNU/Linux thank you very much.

Microsoft must have thought "Well, Windows users put up with Adware back in the XP days, let's recreate Adware and make some cash off it because there won't be any legal consequences."

>>59934078
>anime website

lmao @ your life

>>59933534
how the fuck do you get that thing to appear? I've been using w10 for like a year now and I saw it like twice and I didn't know how I triggerd it

I have not seen a single ad on Windows 10, am I the only one? I disabled One Drive on the Registry I think.

>>59933534
GNU/Linux doesn't have this problem.

I have had updates disabled for like 2 months, should I update or just keep the current version?

>>59934407
You'll just become a part of another botnet, as soon as some vulnerability fucks up your security.

>>59934356
I don't get them either. I just turn off all the usual shit, not sure if americucks have such shit laws that they're allowed to get ads on the os over there or it's because retards don't know how to turn off basic shit to stop them getting them. Haven't had a single ad in file explorer or the notifications bar.

>>59934407
You're fine

t. NSA

>>59934388
That's true but it also has a lot of other problems.

>>59933534
Windows 10 is malware.

>>59934428
Sams here man, but anyways I still don't think MS should do that shit. We should still be concerned.

>>59934388
Neither does shooting yourself in the head.

>>59934448
Name some

Pro tip. you can't

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>>59933534
>Ads
>"We'll restart your device..."
Point and laugh

>>59934470
-screen tearing
-no games
-no drivers
-no photoshop

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>>59934388

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>>59934477
>no drivers

>>59933606
>having to do all kinds of bullshit to get basic functionality

>>59934492
Yes, that was my point: Windows sucks.

Thanks for adding your own meme-arrow input though.

>>59933901
>tfw wangblow users are so cucked they thubk privacy invasion and constant ad injection is necessary for a "out of box experience

>>59934537
>thubk

Opinion discarded

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>Proprietary software
What did you really expect?

>>59934481
>ubuntu
>thinking it's an argument
my GNU/Linux pc does not have this problem

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>>59933534

Server 2016 don't have this problem, win10cuck.

>>59934481
>Old version of ubuntu

>>59934600
>Windows Server
>on the desktop

How you gonna pay for that? Microsoft won't even sell Server + 1 CAL. I swear sometimes /g/ is retarded.

Does anyone know if I can use LTSB 2016 key on the creators update to switch from standard Enterprise? I went from Enterprise to Pro to get the update then switched back to Enterprise no problemo.

>>59934600
Windows Server is not for workstation use, you fucking retard. The price alone should tell you that.

>>59934537
thubk kek

>>59933534
windows 10 is funded by ads and your personal data.

>>59933584
what's next?

>>59934690
Which they wouldn't have had to do if there weren't so many fucking pirates

looks like microshit is taking the boiling frog approach, adding a little more ads each time

>>59934712
>pirates created Windows 10
No they didn't. Windows has always, predominentaly gotten more money and steady revenue from companies that pleb tier end users.

>>59934712
Microsoft makes a shitload of money already, particularly off enterprise accounts. Maintaining their status as default is more important than getting a bit more cash from ads, which they will soon learn.

>>59934690
Well, I'd prefer it to run out of funds and die, then. Or move at slower pace, using less money and more passion for development.
"Ooooh, we have to waste money on dumb shit, so we'll milk you to death to get it!"

>>59934737
We'd all prefer it if they just died.

>>59934731
>Maintaining their status as default is more important than getting a bit more cash from ads, which they will soon learn.

It maintains itself. The only direction people could possibly flee in is macOS, which they won't because they're used to Windows from work because all the big enterprise products are designed for Windows and Windows only.

>>59934517
>windows
>install shit and it works

>linux
>install these vaguely described dependencies and configure that
>install software and troubleshoot more until you realise why windows is superior

>>59933678
thanks buddy

>>59934813
>>install shit and it works
>I'll just conveniently ignore everything posted in this thread contradicting this

>>linux
>>install these vaguely described dependencies and configure that
>>install software and troubleshoot more until you realise why windows is superior

see above

>>59933584
Or you could... I don't know... Just use any other OS?

>>59934863
what other OS can u gayme on?

>>59934863
You need a file in .docx and exactly .docx. With very precise formatting requirements.

What the fuck do you do?

>>59934871
>>59934877
use win7

>>59934877
You download it into a special folder that is shared with a lightweight pirated Windows 10 virtual machine with no network access. No network access means it's pirated forever, no updates, no security vulnerabilities, no telemetry, no personal info gathered, no nothing. You open it in your pirated MS Word. When you finish your work - you set VM to paused, freeing all resources. You are a smart person, you get the best of all worlds, at no cost, paying not even with your identity.

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>>59933534
>tfw uninstalled it and everything else

and this is why u pirate windows

>>59934953
u did good anon

>>59934911
And what will you do when 2020 rolls around?

>>59934938
You'll find that Word will refuse to run without an Internet connection to check its activation status.

>>59934954
That's also *because* you pirate windows.

>>59934971
ask me again in 2020

>>59934971
There are cracked versions. And you know what's best about it? Even if you download an infected one - virus won't be able to do shit without an internet connection. And if it ever encrypts something (extremely rare case) - you can just load a backup.

>>59933534
install adblocker

>>59933585
Doing things like this breaks compadibility with other software you dumbfuck.

>>59933901
>you can't have good software without letting the NSA breathe down your neck

Please shoot yourself in the mouth.

I hate notifications in general. Even back on Win7, the first thing I'd do when setting up a machine would be disabling balloon alerts in the registry.

The fact that notifications are now ads makes me glad I'm Linux-only now.

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>>59933959
>community
wow

>>59933872
>Better file manager

500 rupees have been deposited in your account.

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>basic level telemetry

>>59933663
>something that came for free in Windows 98
>now a subscription for $1.49
truly the pinnacle of civilization

>>59934600
Don't forget to install your updates, goy.

>>59934877
Use LibreOffice or any other word processor, save in docx.

What now.

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>>59935234

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>>59934608

>pay for use windows

:^)

>>59934626

>implying that I paid

Fucking retard!

>>59934911
what if i want to use dx12

>>59935534
For what? Name 5 good games that work only on dx12.

>>59935507
I omitted ~20 and scaled down the image due to size constraint. Here is original link: https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/itpro/windows/configure/basic-level-windows-diagnostic-events-and-fields

>>59934221
User Profile Service is a local thing, nothing to do with the botnet unless you're using a Microsoft account

The ads in their own services are shitty but easy to disable with utilities like OO Software Shutup10 and Spybot Antibeacon. I agree it shouldn't be necessary in the first place.

More distressing is the lack of QA in Windows 10 as they rapidly iterate everything in development and then make developers responsible for QA. This is a recipe for buggy code that often fails in the real world.

So let me get this straight... you are aware of free alternatives, yet you choose to use windows? You deserve all the ads, bloat and spyware you get famalamalam.

I haven't seen any of these ads in the OS yet.

>>59933921
>>59933936
linux is shit though, it has shit drivers and games

now GNU, THAT'S what I'm talkin bout, but linux itself naah

>not uninstalling the windows userspace in its entirety and running debian GNU/NT
>being too much of an brainlet to obtain best of both worlds in one OS
>fagfags

>>59935618
Me neither
I live outside burguerland, maybe that's the reason

>>59935599
>you are aware of free alternatives
There are no free alternatives to Windows.
ReactOS doesn't count, it looks amazing but right now it's shit.
Wine doesn't count either, it's even worse.

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>>59935623
>debian GNU/NT
>debian
>"GNU/"
>NT

>picking the SJW version of GNU

>actually unironically calling it "GNU/"

>keeping the NT kernel

>>59935551
pretty much everything runs better in dx12 with an amd gpu, i intend on using an amd gpu

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>>59935637
>Wine is worse that reactos
>my sides when

>when your OS comes with adware
windows is just so convenient, I love it!

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>>59933534
am i the only one who noticed this?

>>59933606
>>having to do all kinds of bullshit to turn off adds in your OS

uncheck a box...
(Still beats sudo apt-get install the one piece of software we have bullshit...)

>>59933534
What's next?
Do I have to hand out self printed flyers with special w10 referral codes on them and when I get 10 people to fill them in I can finally use my computer for a week?

>>59933534
As if Apple doesn't pull this bullshit on the fucking iPhone! I can't even open my fucking photo library without getting bothered to "Upgrade" my iCloud storage plan aka shell out money for more storage. Fuck that. Plus they make it a total pain in the ass to manage the things that are actually in the iCloud library, so you never really know what is backed up and what isn't unless I'm missing something..

>>59936171
>As if Apple doesn't pull this bullshit on the fucking iPhone!
What do you mean "as if?" There's nothing "as if" about it. The disagreeable practices of two rival corporations can and should be examined independently from the context of their rivalry.

As other guys said, I've never encountered those ads on my Windows version,and I have a regular Home one. Maybe it's country based ?

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>get sick of win 10 bullshit
>install gahnoo slash loonix
>wtf is this garbage
>go back to windows

>>59936125
>turns off adds
>update comes
>more ads
>"Option to disable ads now available only in Microsoft Windows 10 Enterprise edition, update now for $299.99."

>>59933872
the file manager is worse than terminal file managers.

>>59936233
>install Windows Server
>enable DirectX
>uninstall all the server software
>disable all the security settings that are necessary for a server but impede comfortable use as a desktop
>ideal OS

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>>59933872
>>59934004
>>59934477
>>59935623
>games
Relevant pasta:
Not him but the no games argument is not true anymore. Windows is the best os for gaming mostly due to most game developers are trained into developing for it with microsoft's closed APIs, so the simple process of porting a game that was developed for windows to any other platform will affect negatively the performance of the game. This with the fact that the marketshare is small compared to windows there's hardly an incentive at the moment to optimize for linux, making look as if the platform were worse for games than windows when in fact to flip the situation you'll need to change the idiosyncrasies on the industry itself.

The fact though is that the situation on linux is not nearly the same than two years ago and now those who prefer linux over windows now can play games on it, helping to break the vicious circle, but still there's a lot of things to do for linux to compete in the gaming side. I anyone wants for this to change i recommend to play the games you can on linux when possible and ask for linux ports.

I notice some people doesn't want's for this to happen but if that the case let me ask (not directed specifically to the person i'm replying): how are any of you benefited in a meaningful way with the current situation? because i consider that keeping the statu quo just to have a tool to win an argument on what OS is better is not a meaningful thing. how having less options and practically being locked to MS products benefits you?

Some links:
https://steamdb.info/linux/
http://store.steampowered.com/search/?category1=998&os=linux
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXr8bqzf45Y
https://www.youtube.com/user/tuxreviews/videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/airspeedmph
https://www.youtube.com/user/Jakejw93/videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/mrdeathjr28/videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWZvwhwT1Sk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9gsu_YWUzE

>>59933629
Is this a fucking parody?

>>59936302
>terminal file managers
Fucking why.

The terminal IS a file manager. If you can only use the keyboard anyway, it's easier to remember ls, cd, mv, rm, mkdir, rmdir, and pwd than it is to learn a bunch of keyboard shortcuts.

>>59936208
Ok I reread the main post. While you/him aren't guilty of this many of the people posting in this thread are: People need to stop giving people shit for using Windows 10.
Where's this better alternative? I'm sure Apple pulls the same shit on macOS... Linux is obvious not a viable option for most people. Old versions of Windows are no longer getting any real attention/updates from Microsoft.

Idk if the economy is dying or what, but it seems like the majority of technology being released is no longer about offering useful functionality to people's lives and is now all about providing a product that is designed to ensure that the customer keeps generating profit for the company even after the initial purchase. I know it's always been this way to an extent, but now it's getting intrusive and sometimes products are intentionally crippled with features that must be purchased in order to be used.

I understand that these companies have to generate income, but there are better ways of doing it.

>>59936309
>takes forever to boot

>>59936309
> using a server os for deskt... fuck.

>>59936360
>macOS
i'm pretty sure a tim cook would slit somebody's throat if someone decided to pull that shit

>>59936309
>Oy Vey
>Windows Server 2016 will be priced and licensed per core, rather than per physical processor.
>The per-core pricing for Windows Server 2016 requires a minimum of eight 2‑core licenses for each physical server.

>>59934481
>your searches are sent to canonical that then query Amazon for you so you can't be tracked by Amazon for advertisement.
That's a really bad example.
This and the fact unity is dead

>>59934877
>You need a file in .docx and exactly .docx. With very precise formatting requirements.
No I don't. I never have. If I did, I'd use Office365.

>>59934100
>dig around for hours for the right commands just to install their OS
False if you use an user-oriented distro.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_Ja2PRt0cc
>run downloaded scripts to install basic shit
Do you even know what are the windows installers? they're scripts. Also reminder that windows don't have a proper package manager, chocolatey just run scripts that run the same windows installers silently.
>install new kernels every week to pretend they are immune to the Russian botnet.
So when security started to don't matter? are you upset because anyone can audit open source but on closed source you need to trust blindly?
>take it up the ass when an update breaks all their personal settings and they have to go through the process of setting them all up over again.
Uh? I can use the same linux installation for years with barely any maintenance and without performance degradation, i can't say the same about windows. Remember that the solution for all windows problems is "just reinstall".
>then pretend all the time wasted doing all this means they're "good with computers" and that they've "accomplished something."
This is like saying that the so called "windows power users" are "power users" just because they know very well a lot of workarounds for the bullshit windows push on them on purpose and now they invested a lot of their pride on being the "computer guy of the family and friends" so they need to look for ways to prove they're using the superior OS... oh wait, this is actually true.
>then after all that they say installing and running Linux is easy
Proved with evidence.
>because with their need to be contrarian to make themselves feel special, it's the only thing they have.
Nice argument, pretty sure you convinced a lot of people right now.

>>59933534
AAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!! once again winblows sheep are ass fucked by microshaft... when will they learn?

>>59934424
I have disabled Microsoft updates in January and no "vulnerability" will affect me because Windows Defender is updated individually, and I have a firewall with HIPS.

>>59936488
>pricing
>not getting it gratis because you're a college student
>not being a college student
pleb

>>59936531
Good approach, can't find a problem with that.

>>59933964
Honestly, this is like watching people standing in the rain wondering why they're getting wet. I can't get upset about every single drop that lands on them anymore, because they're not going to go inside no matter what I tell them.

>>59936533
>being a college student
>using windows
pleb

>>59935637
>Wine doesn't count
Delicious salty tears. The only thing windows has is their exclusivity, take that from them and you'll be able to see the dried up wench windows is in fact.

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>>59934477
>screen tearing
This is a fair complain, yet most drivers including AMD, Intel and Nvidia has a tear-free option, activate it and you're done.
>no games
Yeah, just +2000 right now including a bunch of AAA, almost nothing.
>no drivers
Yeah, that's why i can run a fully featured session from an installation media without even touching the drive and this is why i don't need to install or search for drivers after installing except maybe for Broadcom's and Nvidia's that can be installed from a GUI included with the OS.
>no photoshop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-Mo3GTcOQ4

>>59936642
>only thing windows has is their exclusivity,
No doubt about that. Running EXEs is the one and only reason I prefer it. Frankly if I could run EXEs in Linux (and I mean ACTUALLY run EXEs) I'd be using Debian Standard with Pantheon.
>take that from them and you'll be able to see the dried up wench windows is in fact.
Yeah, except that you can't take it from them, because Wine is shit.

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>>59936360
>I'm sure Apple pulls the same shit on macOS

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>>59936360
>I'm sure Apple pulls the same shit on macOS...

>>59936806
>because Wine is shit.
Delicious tears.

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>>59936360
>Linux is obvious not a viable option for most people
leave

>>59936776
number of games means nothing. the PS2 and Wii have a gorillion titles. that doesn't make them relevant.

continued support for newly released games is what matters and Linux doesn't have it. at best we get Aspyr and Feral ports that run like shit a few months after release.

let's not kid ourselves. GNU/Linux is decades ahead of Windows in most aspects but not in those that matter to /v/irgin kids.

>>59936806
what is so important about ""EXEs"". it's just a fucking file extension.

unless you want to tell me there's some reason why PE is better than ELF

>>59936905
Did you even read what I said? I'm not even a Windows fanboy you tunnel visioned extremist, I'm just a Linux guy who needs Windows software. I say Wine is shit because I know this from experience, because I have actually tried -- and failed, time and time again -- to run Windows software on Linux, so I wouldn't HAVE to use Windows, because Windows is shit.

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Gotta have dem gaymes and apps

>>59936948
1) it's the only format in which Anvil Studio is available
2) it's the only format in which Game Maker Studio is available
3) there is no 3

>>59933534
>keeping notifications on

you don't belong here

>>59936360
> I'm sure Apple pulls the same shit on macOS...
Nop, you're completely wrong.
> Linux is obvious not a viable option for most people.
Wrong again. Most people just need a fucking web browser and that's it. And GNU/Linux have Chrome.

>>59936980
Games are a viable artistic medium for communicating emotional messages and effecting positive social change in the new generation, you fucking pleb. If you don't believe me, play Mother 3, Yume Nikki, Off, and Lisa, and get back to me.

If I could make games on Linux, I would -- and once I can -- that is to say, once I've learned the necessary cross platform frameworks -- I will. But in the meantime, I need Game Maker Studio, because I need somewhere to serve as a project journal and plan my ideas in a way that I can see how they'll go before actually having to code them from scratch.

>>59934813
windows doesn't just work
not anymore

over the past few days I had the pleasure of installing windows on a few new gayman pcs

windows 7 refuses to install on the newer hardware
windows 10 needs to download a shitload of updates before you can actually install your drivers, leaving you with some shitty 640*480 resolution until that driver update has been downloaded.

that usually has never been a problem, because you could just download the driver from a location with high-speed internet and transfer it to the target system. not anymore.
because there were 4 systems on a slow internet connection (2Mbit/s) those updates took REALLY FUCKING LONG and I had to resort to updating a single system and cloning its hard drive to the other 3 systems (which only was an option because all of them were identical)

the cloning was done in an xubuntu live environment, which of course immediately recognized the graphics device and offered the adequate resolutions for the screen

windows is dead

>>59936980
If you play Mother 3, Yume Nikki, Off, and Lisa, and not one of them manages to make you think about society and psychology, you have no soul. Games are a powerful tool, their social power is largely misused by triple-A titles but that can change,

>>59937168
Windows is necessary because it has Game Maker Studio

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>>59936360

>Linux is obvious not a viable option for most people

kys

>>59937206
use unity, it's like gm studio except:
>cross platform
>actual programming languages instead of shitty "GML"
>doesn't constantly shove ads in your face QUITE as much
>more respected in the industry

>>59936959
>Did you even read what I said?
yes
>I'm not even a Windows fanboy you tunnel visioned extremist
Yet your argument is "wine is shit, therefore doesn't count", a pretty brad claim. I suggest you to change your argument to "wine doesn't run the software i need, therefore this makes linux non-viable for me in a lot of cases", i'll perfectly accept that.

>>59936994
>1) it's the only format in which Anvil Studio is available
>2) it's the only format in which Game Maker Studio is available
Even then there's other software available for linux that can do this, you liking it or not and already having a workflow with that programs is a different matter.

>>59937061
>If I could make games on Linux, I would
There's unity and godot and other engines for linux, there's nothing that impedes you to make games on linux except by the fact you already use a windows-only program to do that and it's respectable but the fact is that you could make games on linux. Read this:
https://www.gamingonlinux.com/wiki/Game_Engines

i cannot use the linux to rolled up my own fat dooby

therfor windows

>>59933561
But he didn't.
He sat there eating toe jam on stage like an autistic inbred fucktard screaming HURR DURR PROPRIETARY BLOBS FREE AS IN FREEDOM GNU/LINUX HURR
Linus warned us.

>>59933534
I wish I'd use looonix but my jewish overlords don't let me install it.

>>59937421
Lmao your such a fucking normie

>>59936360
>Linux is obvious not a viable option for most people.
Considering most people do all of their computing in a web browser, yes, it is most certainly viable.

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>>59935533
>using the smiley with a carat nose

>>59933534
>anno domini
>being a wincuck

ayy

>>59933534
not for me, stop posting bait asshole

>>59937435
Better than being an autistic deserving of being culled.

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>>59937463
you faggots need to install GNU/Linux

>>59937446

But not for people who actually have to use software and work on a computer. It's for casuals...

>>59933606
>one click
>all kinds of shit
must suck to be retarded and use linux, sounds like endless suffering.

>>59937248
>>59937278
Thanks, hadn't heard of unity, gonna check it out.

>>59934492
Yup, Linux is really terrible. It's bad enough on it's own but then when Linux zealots start bringing up Windows it becomes really embarrassing to hear these freaks wax poetic about how great they are.

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>>59937519
How do I play my favourite game while my gf sucks me off on linux?

>>59937446
Not only that, i have managed to get a lot of acquaintances to use google docs instead of MSO. It's great because it fits perfectly for their needs, it's better for any kind of collaborative work and you don't need to install anything, also most people have a gmail account thanks to android. Considering this not even office is an argument for viability on 9/10 cases.

>>59937522
libreoffice

>>59934600
win 10 pro doesn't have this problem either, in fact I don't think anyone but some free third world version of windows has this.

>>59937548
t. pajeet

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>>59937524
>one click
Start from desktop and show me.

>>59937550
>having a gf
>>>/facebook/

>>59937540
Seriously? it's easily the most popular and used engine. Here's the linux builds, they're still not advertised on the page, scroll to the bottom for the latest beta and stable, available in deb and tar packages:
https://forum.unity3d.com/threads/unity-on-linux-release-notes-and-known-issues.350256/#post-3004348

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>>59937574
I use VKontakte like my femanon gf

>>59937548
>Yup, Windows is really terrible. It's bad enough on it's own but then when windows zealots start bringing up Linux it becomes really embarrassing to hear these freaks wax poetic about how great they are.
FTFY

>>59937596
"gf" == boipussi

>>59937609
There's no such thing as a Windows zealot. All the zealots use Linux.

>>59934137
>save time
>linux
smugfrog.jpg

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>>59937619
No Yulia is my beautiful Ukrainian girl(girl)

>>59937625
The "PC master race" begs to differ.

>>59937657
>girl (girl (male))

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>>59937677
Girl ((girl)female)

>>59937672
Different kind of zealot. No one who's zealous *about operating systems ON COMPUTERS* uses Windows.

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>>59937688
girl (girl)((girl)girl (girl))((((girl))) girl) + girl*girl

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>>59937705
That's right senpai

>>59937690
>Different kind of zealot.
Oh wait so they doesn't count as windows users right?
>No one who's zealous *about operating systems ON COMPUTERS* uses Windows.
You just got proved wrong, don't you have a better argument than "b-b-but that doesn't count!".

>>59937722
(male)

>>59937740
>You just got proved wrong, don't you have a better argument than "b-b-but that doesn't count!".
No, I don't, because it actually doesn't count. It should have been obvious that when I said all zealots use Linux, I meant all PC operating system zealots, because the discussion was regarding PC operating systems. You had no more reason to believe I meant PC gaming zealots than you did to believe I meant exercise zealots.

>>59937705
(girl (girl)((girl)girl (girl))((((girl))) girl) + girl*girl)(male)

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>>59937757
Your making me angry

>>59936360
>here's a lengthy blog post about opinions pulled firmly from my ass and not based on any sort of actual experience or knowledge

>>>/g/
oh wait...

>>59937557
Thanks for proving my point.

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>>59937792
(((((((((((((((((((((((((male

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>>59933534
>whining about ads in Windows 10
>he doesn't know about Windows 10 LTSB + OOShutUp + SpybotAntiBeacon

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>>59933606
>implying every other OS you don't have to do bullshit to fix something simple

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>>59937812
xD

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>>59937786
>No, I don't, because it actually doesn't count.
KEK
>It should have been obvious that when I said all zealots use Linux.
This is some great line of thinking dude hehehe.
>I meant all PC operating system zealots, because the discussion was regarding PC operating systems
Again, lurk more the comments from the "PC master race" when you even mention the word linux. In the best case they'll tell you "use a real OS".
>You had no more reason to believe I meant PC gaming zealots than you did to believe I meant exercise zealots.
They still defend and push for windows like crazy, don't dare to mention any other OS on PC. they should be called the "Windows master race" instead.

Also more evidence and stop being intellectually dishonest.

>>59937814
>j-just turn it off
>a-anal doesn't hurt after a while anon

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>>59934078
>complaining about fags on gay website

>>59934171

It can't fail just because of that you shill. There has to be an alternate explanation. For example, it always fail, so he was able to predict the exact moment and time it with his actions. This just comes to show that Windows is reliable even at failing; Are other OSes this reliable? I don't think so.

if you don't simultaneously understand why windows is shit and why most people still have to use it you are a fucking idiot

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>>59937446
Most people will use another program for something, and that something will vary widely.
This is where Linux fails. Also, the distro fragmentation doesn't help. I mean, say you set up grandma and grandpa with Arch. Then they decide they want to install MikuMikuDance and Kinect so they can become virtual Youtubers like Kizuna Ai. They dutifully Google like you told them, see that they need wine, and follow the directions to install it:

sudo apt-get install wine winetricks

See the problem?

Even if they do install it, MMD is known to be buggy under wine. And now they need to get the Kinect to work, which is difficult enough under Windows:

http://ruchiip.deviantart.com/art/Kinect-to-MMD-tutorial-UPDATED-254447850
Try to translate this into Linux-speak.

There's a reason people use Windows. It just werks.

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>>59935948
^this

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>>59937875
>he doesn't know what Wireshark is

Bliss is running packet analysis and learning that your Windows 10 LTSB + OOShutUp + SpybotAntiBeacon pc is absolutely network silent.

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>>59934102

>>59937863
>This is some great line of thinking dude hehehe.
Not my fault you're too autistic to understand the concept of context
>Again, lurk more the comments from the "PC master race" when you even mention the word linux. In the best case they'll tell you "use a real OS".
That's a matter of ignorance, not genuine elitism. It's not "my OS is better," it's "I don't know what Linux is and don't want to give it away."
>They still defend and push for windows like crazy, don't dare to mention any other OS on PC. they should be called the "Windows master race" instead.
this is simply not at all true
the only two things PC gamers defend and push for:
1) The PC as a gaming system
2) shitty war games that reinforce their fragile masculinity
They couldn't care less about the fact that other operating systems exist and are better, they use Windows because that's where the games are and that's all they care about, and they're too stupid to figure out how to use Wine.

>>59937903
this is why we need standardized application packages like flatpack or snappy, complete with static binaries and/or all dependencies present

distros should adopt the pattern of having all their package-manager-acquired shit in the usual locations and all the proprietary normie apps in /opt so retards can just download random shit off the internet like they've been conditioned to do on Windows

>>59937933
bliss is not having to do this shit at all you dumb ass nerd

you turds simultaneously expect average users to be too dumb to know their distro's package managers and smart enough to run packet analysis. that's some major double think

>>59936233
I don't know man, I install the updates and still never see ads. It's like your some shill that's full of shit FUDposting on the internet....

>>59937557
Libreoffice is so terrible it makes Word and Google Docs look like the greatest thing since sliced bread.

>>59937563
nod and argumend

>>59934254
its fucking annoying

>>59933561

Professional IT jobs need use Windows server and Powershell.

>>59937571
>open settings
>click off "Get tips, tricks, and suggestions as you use Windows"
seriously one click. stop being such melodramatic babies about this stuff

>>59938033
professional IT jobs are largely situational and in most companies you'll have to be acquainted with multiple technologies including both GNU/Linux and Windows

t. resident Linux expert in a mostly Microsoft shop

>>59933534
>We will restart your device
>We are the Borg
>Resistance is futile

>>59937937
>2) shitty war games that reinforce their fragile masculinity
You are the worst kind of person and deserve to be bombed

>>59937421
Calm down, sperg.

>pay for an OS
>it spies on you
>it shows you ads

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>>59938025
but animu is za warudo desu nee chan uguu

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>>59937937
>Not my fault you're too autistic to understand the concept of context
Not my fault you're this hypocritical.
>That's a matter of ignorance, not genuine elitism.
Oh, so to count as elitism it need to be well informed claims always? Thanks, by this logic you just said that linux elitists only issues well informed opinions so most of the time they must be right. I beg to differ tho, IMHO most of the elitism actually comes from "mount stupid", pic related.
>It's not "my OS is better," it's "I don't know what Linux is and don't want to give it away."
No, they literally claim that windows is the only good OS, but be as hypocritical as you want.
>1) The PC as a gaming system
And attack any other OS that is not windows, go to any steam forum on a topic where people ask for a linux port and you'll be proved wrong immediately.
>2) shitty war games that reinforce their fragile masculinity
heh
>They couldn't care less about the fact that other operating systems exist and are better
Believe me, they care about proving windows is the best OS and the rest are thrash.
>they use Windows because that's where the games are and that's all they care about
I would wish for this to actually be true.
>and they're too stupid to figure out how to use Wine.
It's an irrationl hate for other OSs to the point of smearing on them and actively trying to convince developers of not porting games.

Seriously, we cannot generalize, on any group there's always idiots but pretending that the idiots are only on the other side is plainly stupid, i hope you're just baiting all this time.

>>59938054
nah, you can actually pause updating for 7 days now, which is longer than you should be waiting for critical security updates. you're mostly in control of shit again.

>>59933756
What's wrong with VLC?

>>59938078
>you're mostly in control of shit again.
yep, literal shit:
https://www.askwoody.com/2017/ongoing-list-of-bugs-in-win10-creators-update/

>>59938062
So if you have a heart attack and go to the telemetry unit does that mean they're 'spying' on your heart beat? Do you know what telemetry means? I didn't think so.

>>59938002
why tho?

>>59938096
>weird list of random bugs that affect 1 mentally ill person somewhere
>see it's bad!

>>59938097
Honestly what Microsoft is doing cannot be called telemetry anymore, it's just shitty and extremely broad TOS where they reserves the right to collect any info about you.

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>>59937853

>>59937937
this, completely. mistaking PCMR for a pro-consumer movement is a common mistake.

they are pro framerate, pro resolution, pro vidya mods, etc. sometimes they are against shit like DRM or pre-orders but only when it directly affects them, and they'll mostly only bitch about it while still happily throwing their money at cancerous companies.

they are better than consolefags by virtue of having higher standards but that's about all there is to it. they're useless faggots overall.

does windows 7 have telemetry now too?

>>59938072
dude what the hell.

a minority of PC fags are actively against Linux. a larger part of it are in favor of open-source ideals (not quite FSF stuff) and on the fence about it. most simple don't give a fuck and prefer to wallow in their unwarranted sense of superiority over console tards.

I have encountered many of the people you talk about, but still many more of the other kind.

>>59938133
Definitely, also they're supposed to be "pro-openness" and "pro-flexibility", except when this involves any other OS so then you have them trying to convince developers to not port to linux or mac, they're supposed to be "anti-exclusivity" except when the one losing that exclusivity is windows and not the consoles.

>>59938184
>a minority of PC fags are actively against Linux.
Well, by this logic i can also claim a minority of linux users are elitists. The thing is i proved there's elitists on windows too.
>a larger part of it are in favor of open-source ideals (not quite FSF stuff) and on the fence about it.
>most simple don't give a fuck and prefer to wallow in their unwarranted sense of superiority over console tards.
Well, show me the numbers, by this logic i can also claim a large part of linux users are not elitists and i don't need to present evidence. Your reasoning is good actually but you're being hypocritical regarding linux users.
>I have encountered many of the people you talk about, but still many more of the other kind.
Nice coincidence, i have found a lot more nice linux users than elitist linux users too.

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>>59938072
>Oh, so to count as elitism it need to be well informed claims always?
No, but it needs to at least be well informed enough for the sentiment behind it to be genuine. This isn't the case here. They're incapable of genuinely believing Windows is better, and they're aware of this. All they want is to project the illusion of this belief, so as to preserve their right to pretend they're infallible.
>Thanks, by this logic you just said that linux elitists only issues well informed opinions
They don't. Just mostly.
>so most of the time they must be right.
They are.
>I beg to differ tho, IMHO most of the elitism actually comes from "mount stupid", pic related.
I agree, but PC gamers aren't on Mount Stupid, they're on a shorter mountain immediately to the left (not pictured): Mount Can't-Bear-LOOKING-Stupid.
>No, they literally claim that windows is the only good OS
>And attack any other OS that is not windows,
>Believe me, they care about proving windows is the best OS and the rest are thrash.
>It's an irrationl hate for other OSs to the point of smearing on them and actively trying to convince developers of not porting games.
Blatant untruths. These things simply don't happen in any significant capacity. You must be from another planet. Welcome to Earth, here's your green card.

>Seriously, we cannot generalize, on any group there's always idiots but pretending that the idiots are only on the other side is plainly stupid, i hope you're just baiting all this time.
How are the idiots not only on the other side? You can't even BE an idiot who prefers Linux. The two qualifiers are mutually exclusive, because if you were an idiot, then as far as your ability to use a computer would be concerned there would be no Linux to prefer.

>>59936349
Nope, it's real. Ads show up in the start menu and the lock screen too.

>>59934100
Absolutely spot on topkek

>>59938235
>Well, by this logic i can also claim a minority of linux users are elitists.
and you would be 100% correct. there's bad apples everywhere.

>Well, show me the numbers
I'm presenting the same thing you are; anecdotal evidence.

not sure why you're accusing me of hypocrisy. I just walked into this argument.

>>59933534
notifications were always adds, dont click that button, it has nothing to tell you that you shouldnt already know about your computer

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>>59938241
>No, but it needs to at least be well informed enough for the sentiment behind it to be genuine. This isn't the case here.
or to believe you're, hence mount stupid.
>They're incapable of genuinely believing Windows is better, and they're aware of this. All they want is to project the illusion of this belief, so as to preserve their right to pretend they're infallible.
You cannot know waht each person is thinking do you?
>They don't. Just mostly.
>They are.
Well, thats for each one to judge.
>they're on a shorter mountain immediately to the left (not pictured): Mount Can't-Bear-LOOKING-Stupid.
I agree, there's a lot of people like this too. Then they call you "mean", "toxic" and "elitist" when you call them out of their bullshit.
>Blatant untruths. These things simply don't happen in any significant capacity.
Warning, cancer incoming:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/379720/discussions/0/357286663672815927/
https://steamcommunity.com/app/377160/discussions/0/618463738384963183/
https://steamcommunity.com/app/271590/discussions/0/522729901289014179/
https://steamcommunity.com/app/489830/discussions/0/359543951700447618/
>How are the idiots not only on the other side?
I respect windows users but i proved there's elitists on that side too.

>>59938304
Oh sorry, i was responding to >>59937625
>There's no such thing as a Windows zealot. All the zealots use Linux.

>>59936326
fuck off.

csgo stutters, has audio problems, crashes, has major input lag

it just isn't true

>>59937463
truth

>>59938471
>You cannot know waht each person is thinking do you?
You start getting to that point when you're around them long enough. It's easier with neckbearded manchildren.
>Warning, cancer incoming:
>https://steamcommunity.com/app/379720/discussions/0/357286663672815927/
>https://steamcommunity.com/app/377160/discussions/0/618463738384963183/
>https://steamcommunity.com/app/271590/discussions/0/522729901289014179/
>https://steamcommunity.com/app/489830/discussions/0/359543951700447618/
I don't understand. These are all quite civil discussions, far more supportive of Linux ports than to the contrary.
>I respect windows users but i proved there's elitists on that side too.
No you didn't. All you proved is that there's idiots on that side, something I never questioned. And by the way, I only said all the PC OS elitists use Linux, I never said they were idiots. Frankly I am one.

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>>59933584
Oh you want to fix Windows 10? JUST tweak this shit, JUST disable that, JUST install this, JUST configure that, JUST uninstall yourself from life.

>JUST
>JUST
>JUST
>JUST

What's next?

>>59938059
>Don't mindlessly worship fat freetard faggot
>Sperg
You know, I heard inability to question belief was a sign of autism.

>>59938618
oh you want linux?

JUST fix font rendering, JUST use WINE, JUST use shitty ported apps, JUST use worse office software, JUST do without any decent creativity software

>>59936355
>easier to remember commands than keyboard shortcuts

Shortcuts exist so we don't have to remember command names.
>vice versa?
I guess.

>>59938572
>You start getting to that point when you're around them long enough. It's easier with neckbearded manchildren.
If you say so.
>I don't understand. These are all quite civil discussions, far more supportive of Linux ports than to the contrary.
Well, let each one to open and read the threads and judge by themselves.
>No you didn't. All you proved is that there's idiots on that side, something I never questioned.
I don't know if you're the same person but i proved >>59937625 wrong.
>There's no such thing as a Windows zealot. All the zealots use Linux.

>And by the way, I only said all the PC OS elitists use Linux, I never said they were idiots.
I consider elitism a very unnecessary behavior regarding tastes and preferences of OS at least, you're free to agree or disagree if you want and also the claim "all the PC OS elitists use Linux" was proved wrong.

>Frankly I am one.
ok

>>59938642
>oh you want linux?
No, I'm fine with windows 8.1 and 7.

>what is the Enterprise edition?

>>59938495
well that guy is clearly an idiot, I don't know why you'd waste time on him

generalizations are always stupid

I'm so glad I haven't used windows for more than a decade

>>59938642
>JUST fix font rendering
Depends on the distro, there's distros with good font rendering by default.
>JUST use WINE
A fair argument but wine is a necessary evil as long windows holds that much exclusivity regarding a lot of programs.
>JUST use shitty ported apps
The "shitty" part is at best an opinion, does it hurts you that windows is losing exclusivity slowly?
>JUST use worse office software
Don't get me wrong, MSO is probably the best office suite by it's own merits but there's plenty of good alternatives on linux including google docs, libreoffice, WPS and onlyoffice, and MSO online too.

>>59938696
Something very few people have access to.

>>59938642
>implying anyone but turbo autists even notice the so-called "broken" font rendering
>implying you need windows shit
>implying there's no linux-centric programs for everything under the sun
>implying the average fuck uses anything beyond basic Office functionality which can usually be done better in other programs anyway
>implying "creativity" software is only that which fits in your narrow line of thinking
>implying "simple enough for a downie to use" equals "good".

>>59938642
>JUST do without any decent creativity software
False, pasta is relevant:
Kicad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCG4daPvuVI
Natron
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2MvbfuITT8
Blender
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDRTjzLNK0g
Krita
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raKHHFv4nN8
Krita
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEoJgQAfb5Y
Lightworks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7znIHsyqfm0
Kdenlive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8hO4K7mZG4
Unity3D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4BUcIDdpAM
Opentoonz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGFUtqM8oAs
Godot engine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqumdhqy8Uw
BricsCAD VS Autocad
http://cad.softwareinsider.com/compare/5-10/AutoCAD-vs-BricsCAD
Bricscad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eLM3NrOJms
Freecad Demo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XW0AqKG5zI
Freecad BIM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qmjz6WXyWBY
Freecad & 3D printing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqZeThC38ug
Gimp 2.10 features
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5RIveQypgw
How to install photoshop on wine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-Mo3GTcOQ4
Digikam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnk_VzedqlU
Pixar Film Production
https://youtu.be/JmH4KYcmHOo
Linux art 1
http://www.sylvia-ritter.com/new-gallery/
Linux art 2
http://www.peppercarrot.com/

>>59938726
HELLO WHAT IS A TORRENT

>>59938721
>>59938732
These two posters don't have a job

>>59938704
i agree.
>I don't know why you'd waste time on him.
just killing some free time.

>>59938753
Nice name calling. see >>59938734

>>59938737
>Having risk installing a chinese botnet just to get the """""""""good""""""""" version of windows 10
Autism much?

>>59938734
b-but those aren't adobe they're shit

>>59938737
>to avoid botnet you have to download some shady files from russian sites which probably have botnet included

>>59938734
Give me a decent GNU/Linux alternative for FL Studio, most Steinberg's VSTs, working drivers for most Roland Edirol Synthesizers. Good luck.

>>59938833
lmms