/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBvscMLVLEU
IBM Power9 will be best cpu for linux.
quad-precision natively. 8 threads per core.

First for Leah Rowe.

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>The Debian Project is concerned to hear that one of our members, Dmitry Bogatov, has been arrested by Russian authorities.

>Dmitry is a mathematics teacher, and an active Debian contributor. As a Debian Maintainer, he worked in the Debian Haskell group and currently maintains several packages for command line and system tools.

>We await further details of the case against him, but hope that he receives fair treatment and due process.

>In the meantime, the Debian Project has taken measures to secure its systems by removing Dmitry's keys in the case that they are compromised.

>The Debian Project honours his good work and strong dedication to Debian and Free Software, and we hope he is back as soon as possible to his endeavours.

>We send our full support to him and his family.

https://www.debian.org/News/2017/20170417

Why does this echo the hostname of the computer I am calling the script from and not the hostname of the computer where the function ssh-s into?

foo() {
  ssh -p 22 user@"$1" /bin/bash << EOF
    echo "$HOSTNAME"
EOF
}

>>59933484
>>Dmitry is a mathematics teacher, and an active Debian cont
Lol.
>being a coder
>in Russia
>2017

>>59933529

ssh user@"$1" hostname

>>59933575

Still getting the hostname of the computer I am executing the script from and not the remote computer's hostname.

>>59933587
Are you sure you're actually sshing into a different computer with a different hostname? It works for me.

>>59933604
>>59933587

It works when I do what you wrote, but not when I use it with the here document.
Using here documents to execute scripts via ssh seems the easiest way. When I do "hostname" or "echo $HOSTNAME" with that, it gives me the local hostname and not the remote one.

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Can I get any more weeb than this?

how do you make latest ungoogled-chromium to work on arch?

>>59933616
>Using here documents to execute scripts via ssh seems the easiest way.
Sounds like a terrible idea. Don't do it.

It works for me too though.

>>59933672

How can I execute multiple commands via ssh without having to type my password for every line? I don't want to use key-based authentication.

>>59933616
What here document?

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>>59933646

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Want to dualboot gentoo with w10. Where is a guide how to do it but as I understand guide is made for one drive installation. I have w10 on ssd and want to install gentoo on hdd. What different steps do I need to take with this setup?

>>59933731

The one from the example here >>59933529.

<< EOF
    echo "$HOSTNAME"
EOF

>>59933743
Nothing in particular, but the drive with GNU/Linux should be the one to host the bootloader.

>>59933714
SSH into it and type the commands one by one, just like you would in any shell. If you want to script it, put the script on the server.

>I don't want to use key-based authentication.
Unless you're using ssh from a different or untrusted machine every time, there's no reason not to use keys.

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>>59921436
Not him, but i just discover (a minute ago) that drag&drop works, so thumbnail is not needed anymmore for me, i just let thunar opened in my 2nd screen

>>59933529

Solved it by escaping $HOSTNAME like \$HOSTNAME. No idea why it works.

>>59933820

>put the script on the server.
This is so complicated. My mind is so lost when I think about all the approaches. What I have now works, despite being really ugly and hacky.

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>>59933736

>>59933736
Ehhh, Unity.

>>59933894
I love these frogs please post more so I don't hang myself

>>59933743
>>59933804
Will I be able to use hdd as shared drive if I install gentoo on ssd?

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>>59933933
>I love these frogs please post more so I don't hang myself
I don't want to be called "dumb frogposter", /g/ people are often mean, but take this one.

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How does a tor exit node know the public key of the client?

Which is the best distro and why is it Debian Stable ?

It tried searching for things like "glsl kde" but apparently I'm the only one retarded enough to have considered GPU accelerated effects for my desktop.
Meh.

>>59934361
how uptodate is it with backports enabled?
I'd rather choose unstable.

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>>59934185
nobody knows, what a surprise

whats a neat wifi program i can use to manage connections? must work with wpa2 personal and enterprise
or
how could i configure wpa_supplicant to automatically connect to a network that i have a profile for?

If KDE is so good, why did Ubuntu choose GNOME?

https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/5644

>>59933484
>russia
someone nuke this shithole

Only recently fully switched to linux fulltime. Used it on my laptop for years, never on my desktop. Got fed up with how windows tends to break often.
Anyhow, is gpu passthrough possible with only one gpu & display? I only got as far as executing a shell script for KVM and being stuck on a black screen, plus every guide required an nvidia gpu, and I personally have an amd card. Can I still successfully run a vm with gpu passthrough?

>>59934543
I'm curious about this too. I'd like to do passthrough with only one GPU.

>>59934543
>>59934552
>Anyhow, is gpu passthrough possible with only one gpu & display?
Absolutely.
It's definitely less convenient because once you boot up the virtual machine you lose the display on the host machine but it's doable.

>>59934543
>fully switched to linux fulltime
>first thing I need to do is running Windows

>>59934649
why are you quoting that? it's clear to everyone in this thread that linux has horrible support for directx applications, including software & games, the two arguably most popular selling points of windows.

>>59934543
>>59934628
Also my advise is to really get a second storage device for your windows partition.
Dualbooting is a bad idea imho because Windows updates love to screw up with the bootloader setup.
Separate storage devices fix the problem

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>>59933448
I love arch - but they should definitely fix the logo

I can't get this image out of my head.

There's also a nsfw one - can I post it if I spoiler it?

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>>59934543
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>59934680
When his first worry after "fully" switching to Linux is how to continue running Windows he probably shouldn't have swtiched "fully" in the first place. Dual booting would have been the better option here anyway.

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>>59934715
>spoiler on /g/

>>59934715
They could just steal the Nine Inch Nails logo or something.

>>59934736
Linux is the name of the kernel that Linus Torvalds developed starting in 1991. The operating system in which Linux is used is basically GNU with Linux added. To call the whole system "Linux" is both unfair and confusing. Please call the complete system GNU/Linux, both to give the GNU Project credit and to distinguish the whole system from the kernel alone.

>>59934759
I could just edit the image so it reveal only when you click it but it's still nsfw that way - yea fuck it people can just google.

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>Murdock died on 28 December 2015 in San Francisco.[11][12][13] Though initially no cause of death was released,[14][15] in July 2016 it was announced his death had been ruled a suicide.[16][17] The police confirmed that the cause of death was due to asphyxiation caused by hanging himself with a vacuum cleaner electrical cord.
But why?

>>59934830
systemd

>>59934830
Debian = Debra + Ian

figure out the rest

Damn, bluez + pulseaudio is such an unholy combination of shit software.
Even 20$ chink mp3 players handle Bluetooth headsets better than Linux.

>>59934809
8% code contribution is such a big merit that it should have a prefix in the name LOL.

Then why not call it BIOS/MICROCODE/GNU/Linux ?

Or If I'm a 8% share holder at a big corporation should they put my name in front of the corporation name?

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>>59934869
Why don't we just call it Other?

>>59934869
It doesn't matter how muh GNU you're using just like it doesn't matter how much Windows your're using; there's not reason to call Windows just NT or GNU just Linux.

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>>59934906
Fixed this for you.

>>59934906
>gnome 5%
>gnu 8%
>total of 13%
windows users blown the fuck out.

>>59934906
whoever made this graph is a complete retard
whats the source of this calculations?
a distro running a mixture of gnome and kde?
also gnome is a gnu project

>>59935031
http://pedrocr.pt/text/how-much-gnu-in-gnu-linux/

Is removing avahi and it's dependencies on antergos hard/worth it? I'm never going to use a printer so i won't need cups and everything else like weather and maps and piss feels like bloat to me.

>>59935118
>hard
no
>worth it
no

>>59935124
muh minimalism

>>59935118
On that note; anyone experimented with a classic lpd on Linux?
I hate CUPS and prefer NetBSD's lpd.

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Other than Arch, what are some good rolling release distros that don't come with a DE?

>>59935169
gentoo

>>59935169
opensuse tumbleweed

>>59935169
there literally aren't any, and it pisses me off because arch would be the perfect distro if the dev's weren't such lazy pieces of shit that they delete the beginner's guide and refuse to make an installer because they don't feel like maintaining them

>>59935169
manjaro netinst

>>59934694
Hm okay.
So whether I want to run windows on a VM, or dual boot, either way I should get a second SSD.

That kinda sucks, since 1TB ones are pretty expensive now.
I have a 1TB 840 evo. I could get a 525GB MX300 for $145.
There's so many Vulkan games coming that run on Linux that I might actually fill that crap up pretty fast.
I don't want to wait until black friday to be able to get a 1TB for $200. So I don't know.

>>59935169
Antergos has the option to have no de.

>>59934185
what do you call a client?

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What are some cool terminal commands?

>>59935453
cowsay

>>59935453
rm -rf /

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>>59935452
the user

>>59935169
void
literally the perfect distro
>actually minimalist and simple unlike arch because it split packages
>logical policy on nonfree software: it's easy to keep it out of your system, and easy to enable if you're a gaymer loser
>no systemd garbage
>uses superior minimalist runit instead of openrc, systemd and boilerplate init script garbage
>rolling release, faster packages than arch (newer kernels, and it has GNOME 3.24 before arch, despite it not being supported...)
>no portage/compilation autism

>GNOME is a GNU project
>somehow it's accepted that gnome is totally controlled by red hat and freedesktop.org, with 90% of its developers literally being paid red hat employees
How did this happen?

I want something like putting your PC in hibernation, but I can shut off my computer completely and when I start it up again it's in the exact same state as when it was before I shut it off. Does this sort of functionality exist?

>>59935541
it's

sudo rm -rf --no-preserve-root /

you fucking normie

>>59935541
>>>/r/eddit

>>59935779
or just

rm -rf ~

more portable

>>59935453
This one is pretty cool, makes bash display random smileys:

:(){ :|:& };:

>>59935779
>

--no-preserve-root

busybox does not have this problem

Usage: rm [-irf] FILE...

Remove (unlink) FILEs

Options:
    -i    Always prompt before removing
    -f    Never prompt
    -R,-r    Recurse

>>59935816
>>59935541
do you faggots feel proud for reposting it the 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 time? holy shit

>>59935834
Since you replied, at least now they do, you dummy.

>>59935834
Reposts on 4chan?
Stop the presses!

>>59935718
being part of the GNU project is literally just appending GNU in front of the name.
The rules of entry are lax and pretty much the only hard requirement is being licensed under GPL and the willingness to represent GNU project with it.
Even transferring copyrights to FSF is optional. FSF will help you in case of a license violation if you chose to do so, but you're free to decide yourself.

Even if by GNU/FSF ruling a non-corporate-affiliated code maintainer (there are many in large projects) is appointed, there's nothing that stops corporate entities from contributing to it and becoming the majority of contributors.

GPL warrants it.

>>59935750
hibernation to disk is the process you described.
What you incorrectly called "hibernation" is actually sleep

You'll have a bad time on linux buddy.

>>59935875
Can the /fglt/ terminal ruler be GNU project?
GNU ruler, or gnuler.

>>59935453
for n in $(seq `tput cols`);{ x=-;((n%5))||x=+;((n%10))||x=\|;echo -n $x;}

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>>59935665
It asks the last relay on the circuit to pass the handshake forward to the new one, encrypted with the lasts' public key.

Is there a distro that's nothing but gcc? Like not even the full kernel, just
>boot computer
>write kernel mode C program
>computer compiles the program to a new partition, gives it a boot entry, and shuts down

>>59935896
GNU/Linux*

>>59935912
Does the /fglt/ ruler even have a license?
Posting code without a free license is automatically proprietary (c) Author.

>>59935933

And what then?

>>59935933
just write your own

>>59935924
>>59935665
Forgot to mention. Pic from the tor paper.

>>59933888
Your shell probably looks up the $ substitution prior to running the command, whereas it's passed to ssh the way you want it to be when you escape it.

>>59935912
neat, saved as alias gnuler

>>59935934
>Posting code without a free license is automatically proprietary (c) Author.
Doesn't that depend on the country?
I thought in America all works without copyright are public domain.

>>59934454

network manager

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>>59935949
I'm crashing the computer.

>>59935968
>I thought in America all works without copyright are public domain.
It doesn't automatically go into public domain unless it was a work created by the government.

>>59935169

Every distribution has a minimal installer.

>>59935299

Normal people install their operating system once. Normal people are smart enough to understand why the beginner guide page was removed. Normal people can look up 10 commands and install their operating system in 10 minutes and then be done for years.
Kill yourself you poser.

Is there anything wrong with Debian? I want to install it as a main OS for stability and compatibility.

>>59936014
it's ancient.

>>59936025
nice meme

>>59936014
not really

>>59935968
>all works without copyright are public domain.
There are no works without copyright.

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>>59935933
Yes, it's called a rooty tooty point-and-booty.

>>59936014
lol noob, just install arch

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>>59936059

>>59936014
Only thing wrong is that you get really old packages if you use any of the more stable versions of it. If you don't do that, it's a very good distro.

Oh and it doesn't have the AUR.

>>59936014
If you don't mind systemd or aged packages (or what you want was backported) it's completely fine.

>>59936083
>old packages
when will this meme die

What would be the fastest way to switch between two operating systems? Windows and Linux hotswapping must be a thing without wms, right?

>>59936082
Arch linux is the only distro if you want to properly rice it.

>>59936102
GNU/Linux*

>>59936005
Ah, they changed it.
>For works first published on or after March 1, 1989, use of the copyright notice is optional. Before March 1, 1989, the use of the notice was mandatory on all published works. Omitting the notice on any work first published from January 1, 1978 to February 28, 1989 could have resulted in the loss of copyright protection if corrective steps were not taken within a certain amount of time

I was thinking of Magic Sword which is public domain because they forgot the copyright notice. But that's from 1962.

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>>59936084
>>59936083
>>59936037
>>59936030
>>59936014
You are all completely stupid. Debian is outdated and insecure. More over, it's just a noobuntu spin that was made to attract power users. All it's maintainers are SJW and the distro is sponsored by jews and the liberal media.
The Debian project shows through it's public statements and manifests that it's clearly not aligned with the moral Christian values that made the US the great nation it came to be.
It's degenerate.

Arch Linux is superior to it in every way. It has bleeding edge packages, what means more stability and security, since you get all the last bug fixes.
It's rolling release, it doesn't randomly breaks during version updates.
It's also more configurable and extensible. On overall you just have more control over your computer.
Anyone that is serious about their OS uses Arch.

>>59936113
Yes, besides the copy pasta, can you answer the question?

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>>59936054
>booty

>>59936082
Arch Linux is the only distro that eaches you about Linux

>>59936091
When Debian stops shipping old as fuck packages with just security patches on top of them. So, roughly never.

>>59936113
Linux/GNU**

>>59936082
Arch Linux is the only distro that doesn't come with bloat

>>59936136
GNU/NT***

>>59936119
someone saved my oc

>>59936135
>>59936119
get the fuck out 9gag
stop the fud

>>59936157
The pic right? The text I wrote myself some months ago.

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>>59936136
It is right and proper to mention the principal contribution first. The GNU contribution to the system is not only bigger than Linux and prior to Linux, we actually started the whole activity.

However, if you prefer to call the system “Linux/GNU”, that is a lot better than what people usually do, which is to omit GNU entirely and make it seem that the whole system is Linux.

>>59936179
Thank you, Dr. Stallman.

>>59936151
This, professionals use arch linux, not n00bs who need a GUI.

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>>59936188
May the freedom be with you.

Guys, devuan is 1.0 RC, it's almost ready.

>>59936082
Arch Linux is the only distro that has the best wiki.

>>59936234
Arch's wiki mostly applies to some other distros like Void except for pacman and systemd.

>>59936234
Why should I do dual boot instead of this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37D2bRsthfI

>>59936082
Arch Linux is best distro for fixing xorg.conf

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>>59936119
>>59936151
Arch isn't minimalist.

"It has never been a minimalist distribution. Splitting packages is rare compared to other distributions, and dependencies aren't made optional whenever possible."

"It has also never been a distribution offering much user freedom / choice compared to Gentoo and even Debian. There are very few cases where there are multiple packages offering different configurations of the same project. There's no equivalent to update-alternatives or the comparable uses of USE flags. Changing /bin/sh from Bash will be broken, as will changing the python symlink to point to python2 instead of python3 even though this works on some other distributions. It doesn't strive to offer choices like this, and never has."

"Arch is the opposite of a user-centric freedom. The opinion of users has no weight here. Only the developers have an opinion, and there aren't voting systems as there are in Debian. Technical decisions are made based on merit via consensus among the developers, not popularity."

"Arch has never been minimalist... a Linux kernel with every module available and every feature enabled at least when there's no non-bloat related cost, feature-packed/complex GNU tools, nearly all optional features enabled across all the packages, etc."

"It has always used significantly more disk space and a measurable amount of additional memory than Debian and especially Gentoo as a consequence of keeping things simple (again, from a development perspective)."

"Memes about minimalism and user freedom != actual distribution policy / principles / history."

t. arch wiki admin
https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2015-July/039443.html

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>>59933448
Hey /fglt/!

I want to make a free software machine, running libreboot and guixsd. I'm only going to use it at home, so I'd prefer it to be a "desktop", although a mini-pc or chromebox is a viable alternative.

I'd like to use the ARM architecture, to avoid any of the intel/amd out of band management that is unable to be audited.

What sort of hardware should I look into? I first went to libreboot's list of compatible devices, and it doesn't really have any desktops other than old intel/amd motherboards from before their management engines came into existence.

Any suggestions /g/?

>>59936261
It used to be.
I remember when they advertised silly shit like not including online docs in their packages to save a few bytes of disk space.

well the last red team vs blue team fight has been some months...

>>59936261
>Arch linux actually breaks if you tried to point to python2 rather than python3
Archfags will defend this.

>>59936262
https://minifree.org/product/libreboot-d16/

why use arch when you could just use fedora?

>>59936310
>systemd, the distro

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>>59936308
I'm skeptical about the nvidia GPU working optimally without proprietary software, and that is quite expensive and I'm still trying to figure out if they ship to the US regardless, but thanks for your input anon!

>>59936234
>no using the wiki on whatever distro you're using

>>59936328
nvidia gpus do not work without proprietary drivers.
you're better off getting an amd card.

they sell liberbooted motherboard by itself.

>>59936317
Arch was the first distros to adopt systemd.
One of their dev also works on systemd.

is there something wrong with just sticking to ubuntu, even when experienced?

>>59936365
Ah I didn't know that, if I can buy the board that is more optimal.

>>59936376
If you're happy with it.

>>59936376
no, don't let manchildren tell you otherwise.

>>59936376
I switched to Debian because it's basically the same but with better philosophy.

So me being a fool added a command called "source" to my bashrc, now I can't reload it. Any ideas how I can force reload my bashrc file?

>>59936456
root@Ape ~ # source ~/.bashrc
bash: /root/.bashrc: line 106: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `''
bash: /root/.bashrc: line 107: syntax error: unexpected end of file

>>59936376
yes

>>59936456
>>59936467
You can't just open it and remove it? What am I missing here?

>>59936456
use '.', same as source

>>59936456
You do know that the bashrc file is for?

>>59936376
If you don't care about Canonial being fags, stick with it. Ubuntu is a good and well configured distro, the only problem is that it tends to steer the users to nonfree software and the Canonical + Microsoft friendship doesn't help the community either.

>>59936482
I removed the command but bashrc still thinks it's there

>>59936485
you mean like: . .bashrc ? spits out same error

>>59936486
I don't understand your question

>>59936467
>root
why

>>59936519
lazy

>>59934694
>>59933804
Now I don't know who to believe.
One says same drive for dualboot, other says two different drives for different os. What is what I dont understand?

>>59936508
Fix the syntax error in your bashrc
sounds like you have an unbalanced quote somewhere

>>59936529
If you install two operating systems on a single storage drive they have to coexist with each other.
Windows bootloader boots windows. But in a dualboot configuration it's grub that loads first, then grub loads the windows bootloader which boots windows.
And because Windows is made by h1b visas every other update will overwrite your bootloader and nigger up the ability to boot linux.

Get a second storage device.
Install the second OS on the second storage device.
Both OSes on the separate storage devices are completely unaware of the existence of the other and one will not lock you up from the other because both Windows and Linux will happily use their own bootloaders in proper single-system configuration.

Learn to read.

>>59936556
That did it, thanks

>>59936597
GNU/Linux*

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>he doesn't use glorious manjaro

>Install a "minimalistic" OS
>Install a fuckton of meta packages and DE packages "just in case I need them"
Every time.

>>59936751
data existing on your drive doesn't slow down your system

>>59936768
it does, the more files you have, the slower you can access them

>>59936597
desu just install linux without grub and setup an entry for it in wbm

>>59935956

Ooh, that makes sense. Thanks.

>>59936884
GNU/Linux*

>>59936883

Show objective data which proves that. Then show data which shows a non-negligible difference.
Hint: you can't.

>>59936748

>he has to pressure and convince strangers to use a shitty downstream distribution just so he can justify and reassure himself for his retarded decisions

You are the most pathetic person in this thread currently.

>>59936914
create a directory with 10k files and a directory with 10 files
now try acessing both with a file manager

>>59936914
>mom, cancel my meetings, my upstream distribution fuck up xorg again

>>59936914
install gentoo

>>59936940
You'd have to directly access files to prove your claim, not the directory those files happen to be in.

>>59936940

The same. ls from coreutils has no problems, neither do good file managers.
That wasn't the point. The point was that having occupied space on a hard drive slows the operating system down, it doesn't.

>>59936976
>>59936970
try running:
find / -iname something
on a 5GB full disc and on a 5TB disc
now tell me again that more data doesn't slow things down

hey guys, quick question: what is the best distro?
I just want to install and move on with my life

>>59936995
it doesn't.
performing an 4K 10bit HEVS encode will not be slower on a disc drive with 5TB on it vs a disc drive with 5gb on it.
You're confusing two massively different concepts.
What you compares was the speed at which your computer can process a 5GB database vs a 5TB database where the speed of processing is constant.

>>59937030
refer to the OP friend :)

>>59936995

>doing specific tasks on more files takes more time than doing same task on less files

Are you legitimately retarded?
Do you also complain when it takes more time to compile larger programs? That it takes more time to render longer videos? That it takes more time to listen to longer audio clips?

You might actually be retarded, because now twice in a row you missed the original claim and resort to posting ridiculously obvious things while trying to pass it off as an argument.

>>59936995
Your OS isn't stupid and needs to search over all data if it wants to access a file.

>>59936940

~% mkdir foo1; (cd foo1 && for i in `seq 1 10`; do touch "$i"; done)  
~% mkdir foo2 && (cd foo2 && for i in `seq 1 10000`; do touch "$i"; done) 
~% time cat foo1/3
cat foo1/3  0.00s user 0.00s system 82% cpu 0.006 total
~% time cat foo2/3
cat foo2/3  0.00s user 0.00s system 79% cpu 0.005 total

>>59937060
>comparing files with no size
lmao, found the retard

>>59937060
>iteratively touching the files instead of doing touch {0..9999}

>>59936893 (You)

>>59937060
>backticks
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>59937060
>for i in `seq 1 10000`; do touch "$i"; done)
touch {1..10000} does the same friend

>>59937060
>

~% time cat foo1/3

what are you trying to say?

>>59937060
>zsh
>using ` as seen on ancient loonix blogs

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>>59937121

>>59937078
how does it fucking matter?
Is it really the level of knowledge an average arch manchild posesses?

Your precious graphical file manager does a lot of stuff in the background when you open a directory. It checks filesizes, it checks mime types, it matches whether it has a thumbnail and if not it will ask for thumbnail to be generated.

Of course it will be fucking slower when accessing a directory with 100k files vs a directory with 10 files. It has to process a lot more data. It doesn't slow the access times.

bad thread

>>59937078

~% mkdir foo1 && (cd foo1 && for i in `seq 1 10`; do echo "fuck off retard" > "$i"; done)
~% mkdir foo2 && (cd foo2 && for i in `seq 1 10000`; do echo "fuck off retard" > "$i"; done) 
~% time cat foo1/3                                                                          
fuck off retard
cat foo1/3  0.00s user 0.00s system 78% cpu 0.005 total
~% time cat foo2/3                                                                          
fuck off retard
cat foo2/3  0.00s user 0.00s system 88% cpu 0.006 total

>>59937088
>>59937103
>bashisms
no thanks

>>59937159
>bsd users so poor they can't even afford a thread

lmoa

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>>59937103
>starting at 1

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>>59937189
i forgot

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>>59937189
>not using lua

I'm thinking of setting up a server that I'll use for a few stuff and one of those thing would be to stream music.
Basically I want to put all my music on my server and be able to stream it on my smartphone.
What would be the best way for doing that ?

>>59937189
natural numbers start at 1
fucking CS shits
REEEEEEEEEEEE

>>59937174
There almost never a good reason to use seq. It's an additional process.

$ sh -c 'i=1; while [ $i -ne 11 ]; do echo faggot $i; i=$((i+1)); done'
faggot 1
faggot 2
faggot 3
faggot 4
faggot 5
faggot 6
faggot 7
faggot 8
faggot 9
faggot 10

>>59937237
Okay. What natural number of apples do I need to add to a basket containing four apples, in order to get four apples?

what's all this?
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/?O=0&K=doom3
is doom 3 free as in bear?
why can't I download it from their site?

>>59937267
The engine is, the game files aren't.

>>59937267
>You need the retail .pk4 files to play.

data files (sounds, maps, textures etc) are not free-as-in-free-beer

>>59937267
Can you read that shit before posting it here?

>>59937261
The equation 4 = 4 + x has no solution that is in the set of natural numbers.

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>>59937267
>is doom 3 free as in bear?

>>59937261
(1-1)

>>59937253
It spawns a single tiny additional process once.
Who gives a shit.

>>59937304
Except it does: it's 0 (zero).

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>>59937174
>>bashisms
>no thanks


get a load of this faggot everyone

>>59934809
Oh shut the fuck up faggot, I fucking hate people who feel the need to distinguish basic fucking knowledge whenever it isn't written out explicitly on the internet. Get the fuck on reddit you fag, you can get some free karma there for that comment.

>>59937343

His comment wouldn't be visible on Reddit, because people would keep hiding it. You are as cringe worthy and pathetic as he is with your elitism and "am I cool yet I hate this website u guys told me to hate" mindset.
You're behaving like a child.

who here can't resist running pacman -Syu every 10 minutes?

>>59937380
DO NOT RUN THIS, IT MAY BREAK YOUR SYSTEM

>>59936010
Yeah dumbass normal people install Arch Linux right
>huurrrrr durrrrrr all the normies at my school use ARCH LINUX!!1 over WANGBLOWS and MACSHIT lololololol
>the guys who don't are the WEIRDOS lolllollol

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>>59937325
You're mother's weight is 1kg + your mother's weight

>>59937404
2 kgs?

>>59937414
ymw = 1 + ymw = 1 + 1 + ymw = 1 + 1 + 1 + ymw = .....

>>59937376
And you are as cringeworthy as both of them for trying to act like le epik neutral dude. You should all kill yourselves.

>>59937441
>found /b/ last week and now needs to prove how tuff and edgy he is
Stop it already.

If I want to jump straight into linux and don't mind it being hard, which distro?

>>59937455
>straight
>doesn't mind it being too hard
A-are u a grill?
pls be in london

>>59937455
GNU/Linux

>>59937404
mw = 1kg + mw
mw - 1kg = 1kg + mw - 1kg = mw
mw = mw - 1kg
Your joke works both ways, my mother is infinitely thin now.

>>59937343
It doesn't really matter how people call something when they know what it is, but people usually don't know what Linux is. I've been using GNU/Linux for 3 years and have never heard about rms or the GNU project until someone pointed me to gnu.org - and I guess that's what he's about.

>>59937455
Source Mage

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It's probably more for the stupid questions thread but whatever. I accidentally deleted one of the xdg folders in my home directory. I created it again but now it doesn't have the cool special Documents icon that the original had. How do I get it back?

>>59937487
Only when you remove all the cum inside her.

>>59937455
install ubuntu

>>59937512

Either manually edit the file in ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs and put the directories back.
Or just delete that file and run xdg-user-dirs-update

>>59937342
That's because touch gets spawned 10,000 times.

touch `seq 1 10000`

is about as fast

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>>59937531
thanks senpai, fixed it right up

>>59937474
Im a guy sorry, i'd only dress as a girl for a crossdresser

>>59937494
?

>>59937476
which distro exactly?

>>59937518
That's not what the math says.

Sorry, but if you make 1/0 a valid expression by working in a one-point compactification of the complex plane, that expression isn't just infinity, it's signless infinity. It's just as much infinitely thin as infinitely fat. There's no "cum" variable that changes that.

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>>59937582
>?
http://sourcemage.org/Intro

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>>59937582
>which distro exactly?
Source Mage GNU/Linux

>>59937614
>>59937601
Ahh, ok, I get it now

Yeah, this looks interesting, so where do i start? Any books or online guides? Or is it on the website?

>>59937637
https://sourcemage.org/Docs

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>reboot
>decrypt (in 800x600 for some reason)
>distro logo pops up
Then this and it gets stuck here
How do I fix

>>59937591
cum is implicitly included in your mother's weight.
It's a common convention.

>>59937637
load any distro (ubuntu for example) live from a usb, download the stable x86_64 chroot image from here http://sourcemage.org/Download
and follow this guide http://sourcemage.org/Install/Chroot
use google for details you don't understand, like partitioning with fdisk and mkfs.ext4 from the command line
you can contact the source mage community on irc if you need any help, they're quite nice http://sourcemage.org/Contact/IRC

>>59937701
I don't mind it being hard, but are you sure this does'nt require pre-requisite knowledge on linux commands?

>>59937577
touch { } is faster

>>59937714
about as much as installing arch

>>59937682
is this arch?

>>59937737
No, Fedora

>>59937714
GNU/Linux*

>>59937737
>>59937749
Nevermind it fixed itself after I rebooted a few times I guess

>>59937756
that's exactly what i was gonna suggest lol

>>59937723

~/foo% time touch {1..100000}
touch {1..100000}  0.02s user 0.25s system 98% cpu 0.272 total
~/foo% time touch `seq 1 100000`
touch `seq 1 100000`  0.02s user 0.21s system 95% cpu 0.250 total

>>59937714
>I don't mind it being hard
>but
Make up your mind already.

>>59937824
STOP
USING
BACKTICKS

>>59937873
who cares

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Why aren't you using Swan GNU/Cygwin?
http://www.starlig.ht/about/

>>59937901
so thats windows 10 with cygwin and xfeces?

>>59937901
unfrei schweinehäßlich

>>59937901
>xfeces
DELET

>>59937901
Why would I want to run a perfectly fine OS from inside a pile of trash?

>>59937955
dies uezs

>>59937901
>(((Isaac)))

>>59937898
http://wiki.bash-hackers.org/scripting/obsolete
http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/utilities/V3_chap02.html#tag_18_06_03
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/CommandSubstitution

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How do I fix this?

>>59937898
Read: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/082

>>59938068
>>59938068
None of the problems with backticks apply here.

You're like the fags who cite Dijkstra every time they see a goto, regardless of how its used.

>>59938071
Install CJK font

>>59938071
is this archlinux?

>>59938197
I installed otf-ipa instead but I'm going to keep that tab open for later just to be safe.
>>59938247
Yes.

>>59937981
So you can use EXEs. But that's not the right way to do it. What you SHOULD do is use Cygwin to compile the GNU userspace for Windows, uninstall the entire Windows userspace so that you boot into a GNU-enabled command prompt (like with Windows Server, except with GNU commands) and THEN install Swan.

what's lighter manjaro lxqt or manjaro i3 ?

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For comparison.

>>59938295
>So you can use EXEs
Who cares?

>>59938305
i3

>>59938312
anyone with job

>>59938324
kys dumb memer

>>59933448
T

>>59938330
I

>>59938335
N

>>59938346
F

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>>59938328
The meme here is the laughable idea that there's any work environment in the world progressive enough not to require you to use numerous proprietary programs. You know Linux is better, I know it too, but there's no one else who both knows it and has work to offer us.

Is there a graphical filemanager that I can connect to my .xresources for its user interface and that can connect to remote file systems?

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>>59938375
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>59938375
lmao, do you really think the big companies run windows servers? I mean, really?

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>>59938399
I'd just like to interject that "Stall"-man is a very appropriate last name for the founder of GNU

>>59938425
>images (3).jpg

>>59938411
Yes. They do. They all fucking do and it's disgusting.

>>59937455
Gentoo

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>>59938431
>59938431

>>59937714
That's the only thing that makes it hard.

>>59938492
That's what she said.

>>59938492
Is your mom.

>>59937455
Linux From Scratch

>>59938459
>>59938425
>>59938375
stop avatarfagging you gay faggot

>>59938375
On my machine at work there is no propietary software at all installed. Where's your god now?

I installed iredmail for email service on my vps, and sometimes when I check my mail from a different IP than my home one iptables will block the ip until I go in and fix it, is there a way to make it less aggressive?

>>59938564
On mine the native Linux versions of matlab and labview are installed.

How come that /g/ can only think of /gd/ shit when it comes to professional software?

>>59938598
>"""""professional software"""""

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How do I save filenames in this format on baka-mplayer?

>>59938636
>baka-mplayer
what is this

>>59938636
>using a frontend to mpv

>>59938636
>watching anime

>>59938648
autism

>>59938665
anime website

Gnew Thread: >>59938682

>>59938680
but not a shit taste website

>>59938653
>wasting time reading a manual and learning CLI shit to use a fucking video player

>>59938699
Launch file with -> mpv

wow that requires a lot reading

>>59938699
>being this retarded

>>59938699
>double click
>movie starts

>>59938680
technology board

installed manjaro i3 and I can't connect to the wireless network, says "network manager active connection removed before it was initialized " restarting and uninstalling the wireless applet doesn't do shit

>>59938770
technology themed anime board

>>59938699
>go to directory
>type 'mpv <file name>'
>ctrl+f in manual if you can't find out how to do xyz, most defaults are sensible
>that's literally it

>>59938784
>ctrl+f
>not /

>>59938780
Technology themed anime?

>>59938715
>>59938718
>>59938752
>mouse literally doesn't work
>have to read key commands for basic functions
>have to dick around with a config file
baka-mplayer LITERALLY looks exactly the same as my setup on windows, and it lets me use the mouse for things like quick audio adjustment. The only thing I don't like is the lack of seeking on the progress bar but I only do that rarely so using the arrow keys isn't that big of a deal.

>>59938808
What?
mpv has an OSC by default

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>>59938808
>windows user

>>59938800
Holy shit.

>>59938804
board

>>59938808
kill yourself you dumb illiterate retard

>>59938831
Fuck, now I need to listen to the OST

>be me
>replace win7 with Linux Mint 18 (Sarah) last year
>fuckingloveit.jpg
>don't know why everyone hates it
>one year of daily use later
>still dislike Windows forever
>still appreciate considerable lack of bullshit associated with mint compared to win7
>becoming disillusioned with mint
>looking for something new in the n00b category, but I can learn some level 2 shit

Any advice/suggestions for my second Linux os?

>>59938825
Literally only works for pausing which I always did with the keyboard anyway.
>>59938831
Arch user now, none of my drives have Windows on them ;^)
>>59938865
>if you don't want to waste your valuable time reading a manual for a single program when you could use another version of said program and not have to learn anything and have everything just werk the way you want it to, you're a retard!
Kek, kid.

>>59938914
GNU/Linux*

>>59938914
debian netinst or arch w/ xfce, i3wm or openbox
you might learn something making those look good

>>59938939
>Literally only works for pausing
You can also skip between files / playlist items, seek and switch audio and subtitle tracks. Double click to fullscreen if you don't like pressing F.
Stop it with your shitty bait.

STOP REPLYING TO WINFAG BAIT

>>59938995
but moooooom

>>59937901
neat

>>59938980
Thanks, anon. You're an honor to your kind.

>>59934458
Same reason they thought they had to make Mir.