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/pcbg/: Post your component list; rate other anons'; as

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/pcbg/: Post your component list; rate other anons'; ask questions in general.

State the PURPOSE of your PC & BUDGET. State COUNTRY if not USA.
List GAMES/SOFTWARE you use often. List resolution & hz if gaming.
Seeking build improvements? Clarify goal: lower price or improved specs?
Put effort into your queries to make yourself easy to help.

>Assemble your parts list with price comparisons & compatibility filter.
https://pcpartpicker.com

>Information on how to assemble a PC, select components & more. (somewhat outdated)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC

Currently worthwhile CPUs:
>G4560 for budget builds (<$500) unless G4620/i3-6100 is heavily discounted
>i3 & i5 aren't worthwhile. Get Ryzen 5, drop down to G4560, or up to i7
>No R5 1400 unless discounted
>i7-7700k is good but pricey. If over budget: consider locked 7700; not chasing 4.8Ghz+ capable when you weren't gonna overclock, or get R5
>Cheap Z270 board is still good for faster memory in games w/ locked 7700, but aren't for overclocking (VRMs suck)
>R7/Xeon for compute/multitask/mixed use

Currently worthwhile GFX cards:
>RX470 , RX480, 1070, 1080, 1080TI
>1060 is worth considering over a 480 if same/cheaper in your country, or you just play games it's better on for the price. 1050Ti is for mITX builds
>470 is all you need for 1080p
>Wait for RX 580 in a few days
>Nvidia GPU + Ryzen has issues in DX12/Vulkan atm
>Budget builds: consider integrated graphics over a card weaker than RX470, unless price/performance is better (discounted/used)
>Vega comes in May

General:
>No brand/model loyalty. Parametric filters on pcpartpicker can help
>Consider SSD-only for what you budget SSD+HDD combined. Add HDD later once needed
>NVMe aren't worth it just for faster OS boot. They're primarily for productivity as a scratch disk
>Save money w/ mATX case/mobo, and if patient by purchasing your parts individually in flash sales

If you see another build advice thread, direct them here with >>>/g/pcbg
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I'm hoping you gents can help me out a bit. I'm trying to piece together a secondary PC to use as a dedicated streaming/encoding PC and double as my home server. I already own a decent gaming PC that I can stream from, just really want no additional CPU usage on it so I can crunch together a really high quality encode without affecting gameplay using OBS.

I currently own all of the peripherals, including GPU, I will need for this, just basically need a CPU, motherboard, and RAM capable of decent quality x264 encoding (720p60fps, ideally on OBS's medium or slower presets). The fly in the ointment: I own a functional Z97 motherboard already, but it only has a locked Pentium in it (long story.) Bottom line: LGA 2011/2011v3/shoot for a good ebay deal on a 4770k and hope it's enough? Or do I go Ryzen to make this happen? Ryzen seems to be almost impossibly good for the price. Thanks for the advice.
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VEGA
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>>59930261
>multithreaded applications
Get an R5, or an R7 if you have the budget. No ifs ands or buts.
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>>59930288
The 1600 compares favorably to the 8c/16t Xeon according to CPU mark. I found on ebay for $100, but I'd need to buy a sketchy LGA 2011 mobo to go with it as well as a cooler. Downside to Ryzen is I'd need to buy some DDR4 which has really spiked in price.
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What are the recommended b350 boards for someone interested in pairing it with a 1600?
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>>59930341
Wondering this myself. The B350 mortar still having issues? Not encouraged by Newegg reviews though I've had decent MSI mobos in the past.
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Mid range stuff seems to be in an awkward 1080p-1440p zone when it comes to 60fps gaming.

And the monitor pricing favors the 1080p stuff so I'm not sure if I should invest in a "gaming" monitor first and get a 1080p@144hz IPS monitor or try and get a workstation monitor first with a 1440p@60hz IPS without freesync or any bells and whistles
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>>59930029

The pro4 is out of stock, hopefully it will be in soon.

Is 16 GB the minimum now?

Where is the seasonic $50? I checked the link earlier today and it's up to 70 again.
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>>59930355
>>59930341
The ASRocks Pro4 is perfect.

>>59930374
Up to you. 1440p vs. 144hz. Keep in mind, getting stable 144 is a harder than getting 1440p.

>>59930386
>outta stock
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157762

???

>16gb
Yes.

>seasonic
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151119
50$ after rebate. For some reason, PCpartpicker isn't reflecting that. If you go to Superbiz, you can get it for 45$.
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>>59930355
I am actually torn between tree different b350 boards as well.

ASRock AB350M
GIGABYTE GA-AB350-GAMING 3
MSI B350 TOMAHAWK
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>>59930411
>ASSrock

>>59930413
>ASSrock
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>>59930448
Asrock is no worse than these other Taiwanese fucks.
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Should I commit to this?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009996

I'm now familiar with monitor brands or functionality, but the stats are what I want. I just want a big IPS screen for doing work.
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>>59930413
Gigabyte Gaming 3 looks pretty good, unless you want a small form factor board.
They're all only a 4-phase VRM for VCore, so don't expect big overclocks on 8-cores, but otherwise they all look fine.
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>>59930494
>I'm now
not*
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https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/XCg6d6

are you happy now anon?
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>>59930519
No mobo?
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>>59930519
>ASUS RX 480
>canadian prices
FUUUUUCK THAT
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>>59930502
That's not true.

>>59930519
>i7 with 480
Try again.
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>>59930543
?
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>>59930519
>paying 400 cucks to buy Intel
remove leaf
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>>59930527
still not decided on one. I'll pick after I'm done since there's still a lot of choices

>>59930543
>>59930536
great reasoning and motives faggots
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>>59930543
>i7 with 480
Not too much wrong with this desu.
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>>59930557
>>59930563
>>59930559
What reasoning do you want? The i7 is a waste of money unless you're enthusiast, which isn't a 480. The 480 is also a waste when the 580 is about to come out.
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>>59930576
>>>59930502 (You)
>That's not true.
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pleb here who never built and never had a good pc
i'm planning to get this: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KfRdcc

how good is it? any suggestion?
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So I have a decent HP case, and an evga 600w power supply lying around, and I kind of have the building itch. I figured it would be a nice opportunity to get used to Linux (probably mint or something) as a daily driver OS.
Do you think these types of parts are the way to go? I checked around my local craiglist for Ram, seems people are only selling laptop SODIMMs and the only decently price i3/pentium is a 50 minute drive away. I wasn't really willing to go older than ddr3 memory, which also means cpu's were limited too.
tl;dr, cheap ass linux web browsing pc, used parts in my area suck. What do you guys think?
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r8 my build
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jrqZjc
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>>59930576
fair enough about the 480. I should've explained what I was after in the first place

I want to be able to play at consistent 60+ FPS 1080p (or 720p when I start falling behind) for years to come and stream some games smoothly as well. The 480 is there as a placeholder as I wait for the 18th and the review of the 480. I'm also looking at emulation which, as I'm told, is really reliant on the CPU
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>>59930596
Literally everything is wrong with this.
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>>59930617
explain
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>>59930596
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KfRdcc
Better off with a 1500X.
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>>59930586
Pretty sure ASRock is 6 phases.

>>59930596
>i5
Read the OP.

>>59930601
Solid budget build.

>>59930602
Bait?

>>59930604
>I want to be able to play at consistent 60+ FPS 1080p
The 1600 + 470 will do that, and far smoother than any i5 or even some i7s will give you (see OP's pic).

>emulation
Depends on the emulator. CEMU is having a hard time with AMD, but that might be fixed soon considering they're still way unoptimized to the point even a 7700k at 5ghz can't get solid 30fps. If you really want to future proof, I'd wait on the 580/570.
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>>59930411
I complied with most of your suggestions and I'm back to my original cost of under $700, albeit with higher quality components. I'm however reluctant to shell out my shekels for 16 gb of RAM. Can you show me why I should?
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>>59930602(You)
>Bait?
No, I've never built a PC before. Is it bad?
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I dumbed guys, ordered a 1050ti for pickup at canada computers with my cheapo build instead of a 470. hopefully I can change the order.

>inb4 w8 for 570

too impatient, fuck that
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Would a 1070 be a good upgrade to a 290
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>>59930648
5th quote anon here. this is my previous build before trying to switch up the CPU for intel outta fear of compatibility issues. GFX is temporary until I get a good look at the 500 series

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/KtRdcc
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>>59930626
>>59930596
Something like this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dTqvcc
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>>59930669
meant to reply to
>>59930648
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>>59930604
>I'm also looking at emulation which, as I'm told, is really reliant on the CPU
http://www.legitreviews.com/amd-ryzen-7-1700-overclocking-best-ryzen-processor_192191/4
AMD hasn't quite closed the gap when it comes to emulation but it finally managed to surpass Sandy Bridge level in terms of IPC. This is assuming that the Dolphin emulator isn't really optimized for Ryzen CPUs just yet.
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>>59930667
It's empirical. Remember when 4gb was enough? Now it's not even enough for modded Skyrim. 8gb is fine for now, but in a few years it won't and you'll be stuck with use ram sticks. You could buy one 8gb stick and hope the RAM speed doesn't change too much in the future, but good luck finding the same ram you bought years ago.

>>59930669
Extremely. What are your goals?

>>59930670
Dude, the 570 and 580 come out in two days.

>>59930687
That's an okay build. I'm still firmly behind the AsRocks Pro4 and EVGA PSUs are sketchy. Then again, I don't know CAD prices all too well.
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>>59930687
>>59930648
something else I should have asked beforehand: does the cooler that comes bundled with the ryzen 5 fit in the rosewill mini case? how can I tell?
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>>59930715

Yea, I know. Idgaf
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>>59930717
It's Micro ATX so it should. Only way to truly know is to compare the dimensions, but I highly doubt it wouldn't. That'd be a dumb decision and Rosewill isn't that stupid.
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>>59930717
yes
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>>59930715
A rig to play some games and occasionally program with. Preferably on the cheaper side (is <$1000 possible?).
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>>59930715
so does the build I linked stack up to what I wanted? 1080/60 for a good while and streaming?
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Are Galax cards good?
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>>59930733
This is my 1080p build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NCCR6X

I'd wait for a better deal on the 470. The case is aesthetic/noise/airflow autism, look up your own if you want a better deal. Get the CPU for 30 dollars cheaper on Jet (coupon: SPRING15)

Under 900, not bad?

>>59930741
Yes, but I'd change the 1060 to a 480/580. Cheaper and better.
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how does the 580 compare to the 1080?
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>>59930766
Not their low end shit. Only go high.
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>>59930188
Can you stop making the thread images these stupid charts? I want my funny thread editions
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>>59930715
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/nahciino/saved/7LCcf7
good now?
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>>59930775
yeah I'm holding out for the 500 series
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>>59930775
holy shit the price on that fractal case
that's the cheapest I've seen yet, my R4 was 89.99
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>>59930782
It doesnt. Its performance is somewhere between the 1060 3GB and the 1070
>also this >>59930790
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>>59930792
looks good
throw in a 1TB caviar blue WD for mass storage
unless you're one of those who hoards all forms of medium for offline use
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>>59930787
1070 EX OC?
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>>59930792
That's pretty ideal. No critique from me.

>>59930795
Yeah, at the very least it should give one more solid set of deals on the 400s.

>>59930802
>>59930790
Provide an image then.
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>>59930802
i feel like i should've waited for the 500 series cards. I waited for ryzen 5 and i felt like that was enough.

hope they don't outperform the 1070's
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>>59930828
worth it but only if the price makes sense compared to other aftermarket brands
do some market comparisons for fucks sake
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>>59930851
Vega most likely will. But not these 500s
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>>59930858
I have. It's cheaper than the average 1070s in lolstralia is right now, hence the question.
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>>59930775
Thanks, I really appreciate it!
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>>59930867
Buy it then. To ignorant amerifats galax is some no name brand but they probably don't remember that its the old galaxy brand, they had to do a name change.
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>>59930800
Hoping it goes sub-60. Seemed it did around Dec 2016, but I wasn't building then.
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>>59930876
Thanks. Last card I bought was a GTX 690 so I'm kinda out of the loop.
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Hi all, I'm trying to do 1440p/60 gaming with a Ryzen + GTX 1070 build. Do you think it can be done?
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>>59930890
your cpu might need to be upgraded too, what is it?
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>>59930904
Yes, but swap the 1070 for a R9 Fury. Ryzen + Nvidia = gimped.
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>>59930904
Ryzen 5* If so what mobo do you recommend? Otherwise I have this build ready to go.
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>>59930909
noo, get a 480
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>>59930909
Ugh, I'd rather save up to buy an i7 than buy an AMD card
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does the ryzen cooler come with thermal paste already on it?

need to know if i should add some paste to my cart
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>>59930939
Yes. It's pre-applied.
I hope having a decent stock cooler after 10 fucking years spurs Intel to finally stop gimping on their stock coolers. FUCK PUSH PINS FUCK THAT PLASTIC SHIT GIVE ME BACK MY FIRST BUILD'S MOBO INTEL YOU JEWS
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>>59930906
2700K
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>>59930931
>Ugh, I'd rather save up to buy an i7 than buy an AMD card
You're retarded. Look at OPs pic again.
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>>59930961
you might want to upgrade that *cough* bottlenecks *cough*
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>>59930961
>Sandy Bridge
You did good, it's the CPU that keeps on kicking.
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>>59930909
>r9 fury
>4GB
>1GHz
And this competes with Nvidia how? Even with the GPU usage problems?
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>>59930977
Really makes me think
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>>59930977
The furries made sense when you could snag them at $240-$260 around Black Friday last year. They're almost out of stock so they're back at $350 and make no sense now so ignore that cuck. Also, clockspeed doesn't really matter so much when comparing two different GPU architectures and Fury cards have HBM, different than the GDDR5, so its 4 GB is a little misleading.
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>>59931013
Still 50 cheaper than 1070 for 90 percent performance.
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>>59931026
Bleh, too close for comfort with entry level 1070s being had at $360 after rebates on Newegg, given the need for a beefier PSU as well as the 4 GB constraints. Like I said, they were a steal at $250, not so much at $350 in mid 2017 with little Vega looming.
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>>59930519
Yes, yes I am.
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>>59931004
>>59931013
Maybe I'll consider it. But thats the Fury X, which is water cooled isnt it? I want the regular Fury.
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>>59931071
Same shit. Think fury x does a few frames better. Just wait for vega or 580 until vega. Nvidia isnt worth it for 1080p or 1440p 60fps
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>>59931071
We are mostly talking about the Sapphire Nitro Fury non-X which used to be available cheap, but not anymore. Either way, Fury and Fury X are almost 2 years old and are only hanging on thanks to AMD FineWine and Nvidia being incompetent at DX12. Wait for Vega.
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At what point will GDDR5 or GDDR5X finally give way to HBM2?
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should I buy a m.2 drive that isn't nvme, just to store games on for example the mx300 or WD blue m.2
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What's a well built case for around $50-$70?
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>>59931108
May for the high end.
probably 2019ish for the mainstream.
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>>59931291
It's it's cheaper or you're limited on room, sure.
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>>59931345
Fractal Define S no window 69.99 burgers RIGHT NOW AAAAAAAHHHHHH
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>>59931291
You could, but why would you want to? 2.5" drives do not take that much space and they aren't cheaper either, there's nothing you'd gain for doing that. I'd rather leave the m.2 slot free for future upgrades.
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Is the performance gained from switching to a 1500X worth it if I have pic related?
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>>59931381
>1500X
no

>1600 or 1600X
yes

but id say you might need a new gpu first
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>>59931381
considering that the 1500X is 4 cores + AMD's version of hyperthreading, yes
not to mention you won't have to delid it to get good temperatures, fuck haswell
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Is there anyway i can use my corsair H70 with ryzen without resorting to cable ties?
If it helps the H70 is compatible with brackets from the H40, H50, H55, H90, and H110 line.
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>>59931378
>getting a windowless case
for what reason?
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>>59931381
I got 4460 and rx 480 myself and I'm upgrading for 1600 or 1600x soon. I think it's well worth it, 1500x probably is too.

>>59931395
http://www.corsair.com/en-us/am4-amd-retention-bracket-kit-for-hydro-series-coolers
Try looking for something like this, perhaps?
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>>59931381
Depends on what you do with it.
It probably won't be noticeably different, better or worse, in gaming but it would be a good deal faster in productivity and video work.
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Give me ratings and feedback please
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8yz39W
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>>59931387
I dont really play demanding games so my GPU is alright for now, but I am looking forward to the RX 500 series.
>>59931390
>>59931416
Ill probably spend the extra 30 dollars for it. Thanks.

>>59931413
Extra fan mount and saving about 10 dollars which you can use to buy an extra fan than can be placed on said mount?
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>>59931433
Here's a (You).
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>>59930711
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DrSPCP9OIU

these numbers do not actually mean anything
even early core duos are enough for this shit
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>>59931439
You say that saving money to not see when your pc fucks up is a good thing.
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>>59931433
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8yz39W
beyond trash
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>>59931413
The lack of the usual noise that comes with a windowed case. Plus the build quality is pretty good for something under 100 dollars.
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>>59931447
Thanks for contributing man
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>>59931469
Why
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>>59931458
You don't need to see inside your PC to tell if you fucked up. The only time looking inside your PC is any important is when you first assemble and power it on.
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>>59931420
The most demanding thing I do is vidya, although Visual Studio has been a bitch to me lately.

>>59931458
Unless you're doing water cooling, I dont see how youd need to see when your pc fucks up.
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>>59931470
>windowed cases have more noise than windowless cases
when will this meme end?
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I bought a Rosewill Capstone-G750 for £78 off amazon since all PSU's seem expensive right now and this one seems good value.
Did I make a good purchase? Would it be worth the time to switch out with my CX750M in my main build, and put that in my secondary computer?
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>>59931416
Ah I see. I ignored that because it didn't mention compatibility with my cooler but it lists compatibility with 3 coolers that share compatibility with mine so it should work.
Thanks for that.
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>>59931487
>>59931490
>what are aesthetics
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>>59931494
when you're shitposting in a vacuum
sound travels through windows you know
and sound is partially absorbed by foam in non window cases
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>>59931379
>>59931372
I have 2 M.2 slots on my board, I would have to buy ssd mount brackets which will cost $7-$10
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>>59931507
I only gave a reason to not get a windowed version, Im not saying that Im against it. I have an R4 windowed version.
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>>59931507
A curse that any who are not a slave to, are better off staying that way.
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>>59931481
Its not. Looks good man. Probably overkill but if you can afford it cool for you
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>>59931523
Learn better english than start posting, pajeet
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>>59931519
That's a reasonable justification.
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>>59931519
>buying rebranded sandisk
stay away from those
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>>59931531
>than
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>>59931469
Whats wrong with it
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>>59931481
>intel
>2017

evga housefires

56cfm fans for $13 when fractal design makes a 115 cfm fan with noctua acoustics for the same price

NZXT case: no airflow edition

overpriced corsiar shit ram

crucial shit ssd

toshiba slow, shit and overpriced hdd

logigarbage gaymur keyboard

a mouse that isnt a mionix naos 7000

Closed loop liquid cooling for a housefire cpu

yea not a single fucking thing is right with it, its irredeamable shit and you're a retard or its bait
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>>59931557
see >>59931561
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>>59931519
>WD
>Crucial

fuck that garbage, get a samsung 960 evo
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>>59931541
which one?
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>>59931577
not in my budget, I would never pay $260+ just to store some programs and games on.
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>>59931596
then you are relegated to buying trash then, i suggest not being poor and buy quality parts
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>>59931606
what are the pros of buying that over the other two?
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>>59931610
>faster
>literaly the fastest ssd on the market
>more reliable
>not a rebranded sandisk
>not supporting intel jews
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>>59931578
western digital bought out sandisk
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>>59931561
Trolls out in full force tonight i see
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>>59931610
>>59931632
There are none. the slightly faster nVME isn't justifiable. You're talking .1 second vs 1 second in many cases.

Unless you're dealing with gigabyte sized files it's not worth nVME.
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>>59931634
wd is low tier gaymor shit, literally everything else is faster and more reliable
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>>59931610
Dont bother asking, there's not any point in buying anything faster than a SATA ssd at the moment for an average consumer.
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>>59931646
everything i said is a complete fact and you are retarded, go back to r/pcmasterrace if you want to just jack your self off to shit purchasing choices
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>>59931657
H O U S E F I R E
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>>59931561
>toshiba slow, shit and overpriced hdd
>not toshiba slow, zetta slow
you had one fucking job
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>>59931657
IT'S BACK
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Picking up my R5+Taichi today, still undecided on RAM. Any of these significantly better than others?
16GB would be stretching my budget a little, and if it's all the same lottery I'm going to get 2 AMD 4GB sticks.
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>>59931664
>my opinions are facts
Ok cook man
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>>59931519
One benefit to going with sata is if you eventually upgrade it you can retire it into an HTPC or gaming console.
That's why i'd personally go with a sata drive at this point but whether that's something you think you'll get a use out of going forward is completely up to you.
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>>59931700
How the fuck did you get a hold of a taichi?
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>>59931610
None. Hes been trolling every post
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>>59931704
>opinions
no those aren't my opinions they are objective facts that you can't and wont disprove
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>>59931708
In Moscow, Russia, it's harder to find 1600 than Taichi. Had to wait 3 days.
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>>59931561
>115 cfm for watercooled components
Nigger not everyone wants to sit by lambert airport while thyre shitposting
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>>59931722
>i dont like the case
>i dont like the ram
>i dont like the ssd
>i dont like the hdd
>I dont like this brand of ketboard
>i only like one mouse
Objective and insightful analysis
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>>59931632
>samsung 960 evo
Judging by this youtube video you are a cuck. I am not wasting money.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6Y6VdXO5es
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>>59930188
looking to upgrade my nas this summer. Currently running:
supermicro mbd-x9scm-f-o
i3-3xxx not sure the exact model, it does support ECC
16gb crucial ECC 1600mhz
gold silverstone 360 psu
4 4tb hgst nas drive
currently running everything in a raidz2 setup, which i know isnt optimal. looking to upgrade the capacity, I cant decide between a raidz3 with 7 drives or a raid z 2 with 6 drives. I know the benefits and all that of each, anyone have any advice here? anything i haven't considered or perhaps should?
open to really anything here
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>>59931768
>i dont like the case
because it has zero ventilation

>i dont like the ram
because its overpriced

>i dont like the ssd
bcause its slow

>i dont like the hdd
because its slow and overpriced

>I dont like this brand of ketboard
because its overpriced, gaymor marketed, and riced out the ass

>i only like one mouse
because i had a m65 before it broke and replaced it with a naos which was better than it in every single regard

you see i stated every single reason i didnt like your retarded decisions but you ignored them

>>59931769
>i didn't watch whole video: the post
im seeing the 960 noticeably faster than everything else
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>>59930188
>germany
>gaming for non aaa normie games (1080p)
>programming
>browsing
>should last me for the next 7 years or so
>hoping to stretch the budget below 800 once new shit is released

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/C33TRG

I somehow doubt that I can expect a lower price for ssds and RAM in the near future. Or is there a timeframe where prices are usually lower than the rest of the year?
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Will the asrock pro 4 pose any problems if I want to upgrade to vega and zen+ in the fall?
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>>59931870
looks good but the 500 series comes out in 2 days and will be the same price but higher clocked
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>>59931843
>i didn't watch whole video: the post
Its only good for large file transfers, I don't need that.
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>>59931561
>>59931481 (You) #
Ok faggot im bored heres your (You)
>intel
>2017
A lot better for what ill be using it for than AMD. I dont need 8 cores.
>evga housefires
Aftermarket cooler
>56cfm fans for $13 when fractal design makes a 115 cfm fan with noctua acoustics for the same price
i picked cheap quiet white fans. I dont need a jet engine
>NZXT case: no airflow edition
4 fans is plenty with ventilated bottom and front
>overpriced corsiar shit ram
One of the cheapest 3200 available. Never had a problem with corsair. Great reviews
>crucial shit ssd
Cheap low profile ssd for a boot drive. Dont need meme write soeeds to load my OS
>toshiba slow, shit and overpriced hdd
Ok heres where I knkw youre trolling. Its like 2 cents a gb. There was only one hard drive this size on pcpart picker even cheaper and thats some hitachi with bad reviews
>garbage gaymur keyboard
Ehhh. Meme lights but i really love the programable keys on the side
>a mouse that isnt a mionix naos 7000
Are you just running out of shit to say?
>Closed loop liquid cooling for a housefire cpu
I could put a bug ass fan on my pc but aio are quieter and more aesthetic in my opinion. And i dont really want to drop $500 on a custom loop

I mean im open to suggestions but I need more constructive criticism than "hurr durr its shit my mouse is better"
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>>59931870
You clicked on a 470 by accident Anon. 480/580 is what you desire.
580 soon.
Get a full atx mobo.
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>>59931894
470 is more or less placeholder since I want to see how much the price for the 480 drops in the next few weeks.

>>59931905
>480
see answer above
580 would probably be too expensive. What do you mean with full atx mobo? first time builder here.
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>>59931915
That motherboard is a micro atx, full atx is just bigger.
They're also more expensive, there's really not much difference between a budget micro atx and a budget full atx, you're getting memed.
Just focus on the features.
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>>59931915
Small mobo. large case. No window, so you're fine on ascetics.
Nothing wrong. Unless you're paying more for it.
>580 would probably be too expensive
Should be priced roughly the same.
Overclocking a GPU is piss easy. A few slider bars.
An a ton of extra performance gained. Only reason to not do it is if you can barely afford bills, and game 24/7.
Check out a youtube vid. It's really really simple.
Pic related.
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>>59931900
>I dont need 8 cores.
dumb argument, pro work will benifet from it and gaymen will benifit from the load balancing (no stutter)

>Aftermarket cooler
AIO is fucking stupid

>4 fans is plenty with ventilated bottom and front
whats this magic tech that NZXT made thatg alows air to travel through solid matter

holes on the side are less efficient than perforation

>One of the cheapest 3200 available
Its not THE cheapest, my point

>Cheap low profile ssd for a boot drive
and so is a samsung 960, you obviously aren't budget constrained

>Its like 2 cents a gb
and the seagate is cheaper

>i really love the programable keys on the side
non gaudy gamer shit has that too and is cheaper to boot

>>a mouse that isnt a mionix naos 7000
>Are you just running out of shit to say?
not an argument

>$500 on a custom loop
it can be done for -$300
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Would upgrading to a 1600 be a good choice for me? I'm kind of on the fence with it.
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>>59931989
yes
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>>59931989
You'd get about 2x single core performance with 12 cores total
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>>59931970
Amd loses on nearly every single benchmark
Opinion
4 Fans
$8 is not anything to cry over and it matches the color scheme
Dont need meme write speeds for os boot
No its not
Maybe youre only valid point in this incoheremt ramble
Neither was yours
Not worth the extra money to me. Aio will be sufficient
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>>59931995
Ok
>>59932003
Shit, CPUs really have taken a leap since my last one.
I'm just worried that my GPU (R9 290) will be a bit outdated for the 1600.
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>>59931970
Im confused why youre criticizing a few dollars here and there then advocate an evo m2. Nigga wut?
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Given that I won't have a computer until the one I ordered is built, will this be suitable for getiing windows onto my build?
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>>59932027
It wouldn't be getting 100% out of it, sure but then no GPUs do with ryzen yet.
A phenom x6 would be bottlenecking a R9 290 however.
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>>59932052
Well, that's true. Kind of knew even when I got the GPU that the CPU was a bit old even then. It's gotten really noticeable that my Phenom is lagging behind, too.
Fuck it, I'm going to go for it. Thanks guys.
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>>59932038
just download windows from MS directly at your local library
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>>59932018
>Amd loses on nearly every single benchmark
in unoptimized day 1 benchmarks? where is this time machine where it is perpetually February? are you in the twilight zone?

>Opinion
fact, especially considering you need it to cool delidstutter lake

>4 Fans
air passes through solid matter now, NZXT invented magic

>matches the color scheme
what are you going to jerk off over it constantly instead of actually using it

>Dont need meme write speeds for os boot
being faster is a meme now, what brilliant conclusion

>Neither was yours
no its called a testimonial

>Not worth the extra money to me.
spends $2000 of shitty desisions but $100 more for proper water cooling is too much

are you actually retarded or just baiting?
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>>59932069
With my own thumb drive? And where do I download it from?
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>>59932064
No, you did good holding out this long.
You wouldn't have been remiss getting a locked i5 or i7 somewhere along the way out of weakness but you managed to make your rig last until now.
Phenom-chan can rest now. It has done it's job longer than any CPU should reasonably be expected to.
>>
Is locked 7700 really that bad of idea right now?
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>>59932095
The CPU held out surprisingly well, actually. I got it, what, six, maybe seven years ago? Fucker still could run BF4 around 70 fps on medium-low settings.
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>>59932108
Price to performance is fine for gaming but Ryzen is more valuable on potential.
It's up to you.
Also It's the only way to get thunderbolt or 3D X-point if those matter to you for some reason.
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>>59932108
Yes, ryzen is better
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>>59932094
Yeah man, why the fuck not? All that's on that ebay stick is a disk image. You can make one yourself. You don't even have to be good with computers or anything. 2 seconds of google would get you this

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

(psst...it's free software)
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Could someone put something together for me with an i7-7700k and a 1070?

I'm looking to make a gaming rig that's less than $1000 to use with my 1080p samsung smart tv.

Only need 8gb memory.

SSD with ≤ 500gb space.

Also cheapest case I can get away with (don't care about looks)

The cheaper the better obviously.
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Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VKx9TW/intel-core-i7-7700k-42ghz-quad-core-processor-bx80677i77700k) | $338.44 @ OutletPC
**CPU Cooler** | [Corsair H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CrDzK8/corsair-cpu-cooler-cw9060025ww) | $117.49 @ OutletPC
**Motherboard** | [MSI Z270 XPOWER GAMING TITANIUM ATX LGA1151 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/M9X2FT/msi-z270-xpower-gaming-titanium-atx-lga1151-motherboard-z270-xpower-gaming-titanium) | $319.99 @ SuperBiiz
**Memory** | [Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ZBjWGX/corsair-vengeance-lpx-32gb-4-x-8gb-ddr4-3200-memory-cmk32gx4m4b3200c16w) | $249.99 @ Amazon
**Storage** | [Samsung 960 Evo 1TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4cyxFT/samsung-960-evo-1tb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-mz-v6e1t0) | $479.99 @ B&H
**Storage** | [Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KyCwrH/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st2000dm001) | $69.99 @ SuperBiiz
**Video Card** | [MSI GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Founders Edition Video Card](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6R98TW/msi-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-11gb-founders-edition-video-card-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-founders-edition) | $698.99 @ SuperBiiz
**Case** | [Corsair 750D ATX Full Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BKW9TW/corsair-case-750d) | $129.99 @ Best Buy
**Power Supply** | [EVGA SuperNOVA P2 850W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zhgPxr/evga-power-supply-220p20850x1) | $137.99 @ OutletPC
**Optical Drive** | [LG GH24NSC0B DVD/CD Writer](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9nQRsY/lg-optical-drive-gh24nsc0b) | $16.88 @ OutletPC
**Operating System** | [Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MfH48d/microsoft-os-fqc08930) | $138.88 @ OutletPC
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>>59932189
>i7-7700k and 1070
<$1000
Unless you already have some big parts that's not happening.
Also you dont need a 1070 for 1080p
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>>59932194
>>59932189
>i7 7700k
stuttering garbage, don't even consider it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybF7r4rogHc
>>
I know some Ryzen motherboards have built in video connectors even though Ryzen doesn't internal graphics. Does this mean that if I add a graphics card, I'll be able to get graphics output from it? This is pretty important because I need to be able to get VGA, which basically no graphics card has anymore, while motherboards typically have it.
>>
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cDP4hq

1080p gaming at 60fps. I need a motherboard and I'm gonna wait for the 580 and see how that turns out.
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>>59932219
>VGA
stop using a fucking CRT
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>>59932222
Any particular reason you're going with the X model over an OC'd 1600?
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>>59932219
Nope, that's for APUs coming later this year.

For VGA get a GPU with DVI-D
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>>59932209
okay then just a 1060 6gb?

appreciate all advice and help
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>>59932230
CRTs are comfy though.
>>59932248
You mean DVI-I, and no GPUs have them anymore either.
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>>59932189
Wait for skylake x if you want to go with intel. It's about a month away.
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>>59932177
I thought you weren't allowed to insert external memory into library computers. Do the thumb drives have to be completely empty? I have one but I think it has pictures on it and of course I wouldn't want to risk them being overwritten.
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>>59932189
Are you aware that's a less than sign for the SSD?
Usually people list a lower limit for what they'd accept, it's a little ambiguous otherwise
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>>59932252
they are shit and depreciated you fucking luddite

>>59932257
>memelake x
you know its going to be a overpriced failure and a housefire

>>59932222
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8QpTRG
fixed your build
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>>59932268
>they are shit and depreciated you fucking luddite
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>>59932244
I don't really plan to overclock since I've never done it before and I don't need/want to. Unless the OC'd 1600 performs better or vice versa.
>>
Why the fuck is the RAM I bought a year ago suddenly $15 more expensive? There isnt a single stick of DDR3-1600 I can buy for under $50
what gives?
>>
>>59932265
i don't really care about space, i usually only play one or two games at a time and don't really store anything
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>>59932268
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8QpTRG
>fixed your build

Thanks man, but no motherboard?
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>>59932268
please go shill your shit elsewhere, fandrone.
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>>59932275
>justifying being a poorfag
lol just lol
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>>59932268
>they are shit and depreciated you fucking luddite
You love wireless keyboards too?
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>>59932278
It doesn't perform better, just exactly the same so it's cheaper.
Of course an X model will have inherently higher value on the used market so it's not exactly burning money either way, it's fine as long as you're aware of the alternative.
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>>59932257
BESIN FALLS
>>
Gaming n streaming build is it good?

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($338.44 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($117.49 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI Z270 XPOWER GAMING TITANIUM ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($319.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($249.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 960 Evo 1TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($479.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Founders Edition Video Card ($698.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair 750D ATX Full Tower Case ($129.99 @ Best Buy)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA P2 850W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($137.99 @ OutletPC)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSC0B DVD/CD Writer ($16.88 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit ($138.88 @ OutletPC)
Total: $2698.62
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>>59932291
wait on a asrock taichi or get a gigabyte k7 if you cant wait

>>59932298
i cant hear you over the sound of your house burning down
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>>59932260
Do I look like I know the rules of your underfunded shithole homeless JO spot? Maybe if you are cool with the librarian she'll let you plug something in and maybe she'll let you stay logged in longer than 30 minutes. Yeah the drive should probably be empty. Buy the 5 dollar sandisk at officemax that isn't full of chink spyware. Or use a DVD. Nothing about this is insurmountable if you apply a minimal amount of critical thinking skills.
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>>59932317
>streaming
>on a quad core

get a ryzen 7 1700 instead
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>>59932307
>housefire falls
ftfy
>>
>>59932318
You're a pathetic shill, pajeet. Fandrones like you should be killed. This place would be so much nicer.
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>>59932306
Oh neat. Thanks!
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>>59932379
Nice power consumption bro

i bet it at least has better performance...
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>>59932390
... oh wait it doesn't

well i guess we can JUST WAIT(TM) for memelake-x then
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>>59932390
Look brownboy, all I did was suggest to wait for skylake x. I didn't suggest him buying it but at least to wait and see what it's worth. You're a shitty shill and you should hang yourself. There is no place for you here.
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>>59931700
1600x нe видaл нигдe? 1600ых пoлнo
икca нeтy

same dilemma for me mate, LPX seems to be working the best for now
personally i'm going for 3466 16-18-18 kit and tightening timings at 3200/2933 a bit

pretty sure Geil got exactly same hynix modules you overpay for lighting
avoid patriot it's got micron modules as far as I know
no idea about hyperX, I ordered gaming 5 it's on QVL list but even QVL doesn't mean shit not sure if it's worth it overpaying ~4kR over LPXs
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>>59932189
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9jmtbj
That's about as low as you can reasonably go with an unlocked i7.
You can squeeze a bit more out by skimping on the motherboard or GPU further, but there's not really much of a reason going for unlocked if you drop below Z170 and you can't get much less out of a nvidia card without significantly dropping performance.
You really should switch out for a ryzen 5 for this price point but you can make that decision on your own i trust.
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>>59932407
>Waiting for something that we already know is going to be another $1000 housefire

meanwhile he can buy a 1700 that has the tdp of a i5 and the performance of a broadwell-e
>>
>>59932414
>Stutterlake
"no"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybF7r4rogHc
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>>59932414
thank you sir
>>
>>59932420
We now nothing as of yet, shill. I understand that you want to protect your currytech company, but there is no place for fanboyism here. Drones need to get rangebanned.
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>>59932108
yes, it's basically 6700K which is within 3% of Ryzen 1600x and costs the same MINUS 2 cores
>>
>>59932407
>waitfagging for delidlake: NEW SOCKET GOOD GOYIM edition

pathetic, go back to the gas chambers you fucking sheenie
>>
>>59932428
Settle down there, if you weren't so trigger happy and read into the context a little you would have noticed he was specifically asking for a kaby lake build and I already recommended ryzen to him.
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>>59932317
>7700K
>gaming + streaming
This kills the housefire.
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>>59932437
other than its a absolute MOAR COARS housefire
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>>59932442
Nice try street shitter, but you gotta shill better than that in order to get people to buy your curry processors.
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>>59932451
>This kills the housefire.
it think you mean this fuels the housefire
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>>59932407
>wait for skylake x
Another $1000 stuttering housefire abortion
>>
>>59932317
if you are fine streaming 720p, sure looks fine

if you want to stream 1080/60 fps get ryzen or 6900k(haha)
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>>59932460
What like jacking up the TDP to FX 9000 tier?
see >>59932458
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>>59932465
It burns so hot it generates a pressure wave that extinguishes the house fire.
It's going nuclear.
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What version does g recommend for windows 10? Also: where do you guys typically get an genuine product key for it?
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>>59932486
ltsb
>>
>>59932486
most people got it upgrading from pirated wiundows 7
ltsb is a meme, seriously, I'd love chinese version though
apparently it has zero telemetry bullshit

Pro is best windows 10.
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>>59932486
>version
Generation2
>Where
TPB
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>>59932483
leaked image of the powersupply needed to power skylake x

>what did you think we were going to include it for free? get a load of this goyim
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>>59930188
Mobo
Aorus z270x Gaming 5
Cpu
Intel 7600k @ 4.6
GPU
Aorus 1080 ti xtreme
Ram
16 gb @ 3000mhz
SSD
Samsung 840 pro
HDD
2 x WD black caviar 1tb 7200rpm

Been dicking around with the 1080 ti and the performance has been pretty bad. Tried out the witcher 3 on my 144hz 1440p monitor and was only hitting about 60fps no matter what settings I used even with the frames unlocked. Had this same issue with a lot of the games I've tried including overwatch which was really inconsistent regardless of the settings. I'm wondering if I need to step up to the 7700k or maybe if the card is just too new.
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>>59932525
>i5
read the fucking OP you faggot
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>>59930188
What is the idea air cooled fan layout?

I have 2 front intake, 1 real exhaust. I have a few Noctua fans lying around, should I use one as a top exhaust?
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>>59932543
>aircooling
>housefire lake

N/A
>>
>>59932525
>i5
kek
>>
>>59932543
Ideal**
>>
>>59932525
windwos formatted?
try DDU.
try resetting BIOS and running it stock
also apparently 1080ti doesn't work on creators update without hotfix driver, try this first with DDU


>>59932535
he already got it so, meh
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>>59932525
>i5
>2017
good goyim you dont need those pesky 6 cores, or multithreading for that matter
>>
>>59932535
He's looking for tech support. not much he can do about ryzen at this point. Everyone needs to settle the fuck down about this shit.
>>59932525
Run GPU-Z and see if the buss interface is operating at a full x16. I had some really anomalously shit performance due to a poorly seated 770 running at x1 once so this is an easy thing to look into first.
Then try increasing the resolution and seeing if performance dips in proportion, if it doesnt or not by an expectedly significant amount it's probably something with your CPU and you might need to do more tests.
>>
>>59932571
not too late to return it
>>
>>59932582
well for starters he can return that delidlake housefire and get a real cpu
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>>59932543
it would lower temp maybe 1-2C
1out -2 in is a basic solution
i'd replace default case fans with noctua if you got them, their CFM is usually better, look it up though
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>>59932535
>>59932551
Guess that answers my question wish me luck on returning the i5 to amazon.
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>>59932594
calm down already, if it makes you happy i'm getting 1600x
>>
Hey guys, I'm trying to put together a budget build for my gf so she can play games with me. She wanted a PS4 so I'm trying to keep the price relatively tight. What'a a good build I could put together for sub 450 dollars with windows if that's even a thing which could play Total War?
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>>59932597
Of the 3 fans I'm using now, 2 are Fractal GP14's and 1 is a Noctua NF-P14s

Fractal - https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835352020&cm_re=GP14-_-35-352-020-_-Product

Noctua - https://www.amazon.com/Bearing-Cooling-NF-P14s-redux-1500-PWM/dp/B00KF7O58G/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1492418522&sr=8-2&keywords=nf-p14

The two fans I'm not currently using are Noctua NF-p14r
https://www.amazon.com/Bearing-Cooling-NF-P14r-redux-1500-PWM/dp/B00KF7QO2G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1492418548&sr=8-1&keywords=nf-p14r
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>>59932607
>im a normal person like you goyim

>>59932627
gp14s are shit

HF's are better
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835352023
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>>59932606
just say it ran too hot if you need a reason to return it
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>>59932655
CFM is not the only performance metric to which you should judge a fan's performance on, anon.
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>>59932627
keep it as is then
those fractals are okay in comaprison, only if they got noisy then replace them
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>>59932609
>G4560 for budget builds (<$500) unless G4620/i3-6100 is heavily discounted
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>>59932672
static pressure fans are just big memes that corsair made up to jew gaymors
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>>59932609
your waifu isnt real you faggot
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>>59932667
appreciate it! wouldn't exactly be a lie considering these things are fucking house fires even with NH-D15 who was the fucking moron who okayed the shitty thermals on these things?
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>>59932701
because goyim its too small to solder thats why we used shit TIM
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>>59932681
And meme is just a meme anons use to avoid seeming like they have to back up their claims.
There are scenarios where high airflow fans are appropriate and scenarios where they aren't.
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>>59932713
find me proof that static pressure fans are anything but a big meme
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>>59932413
No 1600x yet, only 1600
Surprisingly 1600 box with cooler is cheaper than 1600 oem or 1500x box in some stores. Still overpriced compared to US MSRP.

>3466 LPX
Aren't those even more expensive than HyperX?
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>>59932724
nah,both ~12K where I'm at
Hyper X 3200 is 12700 and LPX 3466 just 12
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>>59932413
>>59932724
[spoiler]Чe нa кyдaхтepe-тo нe пoкyпaeтe, дeбичи?[/spoiler]
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>>59932759
>spoilers
back to /v/ with you
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>>59932759
пoтoмy чтo c PMA вoзитcя нe oхoтo ecли чтo нe aдй бoг
и пocылкy ждaть нeдeлю вмecтo 2 днeй
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>>59932772
He's Russian, he's not from /v/.
>>59932781
Tы в peтapдe бepeшь?
>>
>>59932680
Thanks man, but what about a good gpu for the thing?
>>
I'm looking for a case.
>ATX
>silent
>don't take dust easily
>optical disk drive
any suggestion ?
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>>59932759
I too don't want to order it online just in case there's some bricking bios update or something.

>>59932876
> Tы в peтapдe бepeшь?
Anything wrong with that? Bad service? Unfortunately F-Center does not carry asrock at all.
>>
I can't seem to find any PSU's that power off the fan at idle.

Anyone know any PSU's off the top of their heads that do this?

Looking for 600w 80+ gold give or take
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>>59932896

The answer is always the Define R5.
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>>59932876
>Tы в peтapдe бepeшь?
province, it's more expensive to get there than in local citilink
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>>59932919
>some bricking bios update or something.
That's ANUS, not asscock.
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>>59932896
Define R5
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>>59933050
I heard assrock had some bad update once too, though user-fixable by flashing older version.
>>
>>59933079
I got Gigabyte just for that reason. In case something goes wrong, there is always second BIOS.
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wat /g/ think?

ryzen 5 1600x
MSI x370
ASUS RX 480 8gb

liquid cooling tbd
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>>59933112
>titanium
no.
get taichi, crosshair or gigabyte K7 if you want decent board
>>
anyone here experienced with NIC teaming? If I were to get a motherboard with 2 ethernet ports, will I be able to use both for increased local network speeds? do I need special switches or any enterprise grade one will do?
>>
>>59933112
>shitanium
Get fucking Taichi or Giga gaymen K7.
>>
>>59933112
Also fucking shit don't buy ANUS Radeons. Get XFX.
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>>59933112
Stop browsing Reddit.
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>>59933140
what's the difference between gigabyte k5 and k7, other than ricer lights?
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>>59931413
>Getting a windowed case. Ever.
This is an 18+ site, mate.
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>>59933183
the only way you would know i browsed reddit, is if you browsed reddit
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>>59933190
k5 is cheap , gaming 5 is mid range, k7 is gaming five with BCLK generator
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What's the sweet spot for ryzen ram? Really not feeling like spending 250$ on 3200 14c ram.
>>
>>59933207
>BCLK generator
oh shit, I assumed OC'ing a ryzen would be just like my previos amd cpus, didnt anticipate thius being an issue, thanks
>>
>>59933140
>>59933152
Why is titanium so shit? I know it's a fair bit overpriced but why such a strong reaction against it?
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>>59933205
Everyone posts that fucking icon you fucking fag
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>>59933249
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9t6LP9glKmc
Basically this.
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>>59933249
It's more expensive than Crosshair or even Fatality Professional, and the latter has wifi and a fucking 5gbit lan.
>>
Why is Speccy showing my mb at 113C when everything else is <30C? Also what software should I use to check temps?
>>
>>59933241
it's only if you want 3600 RAM

cores OC normally without BCLK involved
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>>59932929
halp?
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>>59933027
>>59933060
>120€
I was expecting to spend 70 -80€ max
>>
>>59933281
just search for silent PSU and proceed reading review on it
seasonics got that feature

>>59933290
silent and tidy is expensive
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>>59933275
VRMs overheat, did you OC?
>>
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/zzBVyf

The Galax EX OC is the cheapest 1070 that's factory overclocked and seems to have good reviews. It doesn't have giant strips of yellow like the Zotac or red plastics accoutrements like the MSI (the other alternatives at the same price point).

1700 is cheaper than the 1600X + decent aftermarket cooler (ie H7 and Hyper 212 are $55). Cause Australia sucks.

NVMe SSD is cause I have a server with a 8.5Tb RAID 5 setup attached to my local network. Figure for the same price of a 240Gb SSD and 2TB HDD.

Anything to consider altering?
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>>59933320
No OC, MB temp doesnt change at all (still 113) while everything else dropped to ~25C
>>
>>59933275

HWinfo64 - it reads considerably more sensors than speccy does (assuming the motherboard has them to report).
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>>59933337
for reference
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>>59933361

1) Does it ever change from 113c?
2) Does your case actually feel warm?

It could be a bugged sensor but equally your shit might be exploding.
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>>59933361
touch VRM heat sink, if you get burned it's bad
return it
also heard that MSI overheats not just carbon, cheaper boards do as well
>>
>>59933376
>1) Does it ever change from 113c?
No, and theres no trace of this 113C temp in hwinfo64

>2) Does your case actually feel warm?
Not at all, room temp is 17-18
>>
So Flare X is the only ram that's 3200 and supported on my Gigabyte 350 Gaming 3.

Is it worth paying so much? Or should I get the ripjaws V (which are not on the list) for about 90$ less?
>>
>>59933412

I would conclude speccy a shit based on this.
>>
>>59933417

Depends on if you feel like gambling with the upcoming may AGESA update that should increase ram support.
>>
>>59933417
>ripjaws V
they don't work
flare x barely works

people say that LPX works though
>>
>>59933495
>they don't work
Not him but wanted to buy Ripjaws V for my ASRock..... this sucks.
>>
>>59933361
its utter shit, your board would already be dead at 113*C
>>
>>59932413
Well according to random people on the internet LPX, at least 3200, is not guaranteed to work either
>The Corsair CMK16GX4M2B3200C16 VERSION 5.39 [16-18-18-36 @ 1.35v] is NOT a Samsung B-Die, it's SK Hynix and will NOT clock above 2666mhz on an Asus Crosshair VI Hero on not only my board but also a friend who bought the exact same setup, the CORSAIR CMK16GX4M2B3200C16 ver4.31 16-18-18-36 @ 1.35V however IS a Samsung B-Die and will behave as expected

Can't find any negative info on Geil now.
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>>59934176
yes but most other modules can't go beyond 2133, so LPX works better than others
and I think it has best chance going 3200 after next update
>>
>>59934176
>>59933495
More info on LPX:
>ver5.29 = Hynix SS
>ver4.23 = Samsung
>ver3.20 = Micron
For G.Skill beginning of your serial number is YYWW (year, week) Now the following 4 numbers you either have
>x40x - Hynix
>x50x (A500) - Samsung
>>
whats a good 80+ gold 600-700w psu with good caps?
>>
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>>59930188
What yall niggas think about this so far? Two things I'm thinking about changing are the motherboard and the 480 4GB, though for the graphics card I'm not sure if I'll really need the extra VRAM from the 8GB version or not. The heaviest game I can think about running on it right now is Witcher 3 at 1080p.
>>
>Nvidia GPU + Ryzen has issues in DX12/Vulkan atm

just as i bought ryzen 5 + 1070
>>
>>59934241
hm, I have option to buy LPX ver 4.24 which is it?
>>
>>59934176

I have that ram on the crosshair hero and via some BLCK tweaking (not much as I didn't test for long) I got it to run at 2800mhz. Using the standard profiles the motherboard gives though yeah, 2666mhz is the upper limit.
>>
The whole RAM situation with ryzen is getting stupid, does the speed matter all that much anyway?

I'm having trouble deciding whether to spend 200$ on ram, or just get a cheaper set at like 3000mhz.
>>
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Thinking of buying pic related.
I'll probably switch the RX480 for a 580 according the price and performances.

rate it. I would appreciate input on the ssd and mobo
>>
>>59934383
>650W power supply
Why
>>
>>59934541
What's wrong with 650w? Is it too little because pcpartpicker's telling me that all that shit uses like 373w
>>
>>59934532
You can save by dropping to the 1600 with no performance cost and that power supply is meant for SFF PCs, it's a waste of money to get it for a mid tower.
With the money you save dropping these 2 down you can pocket it or upgrade the GPU or RAM.
>>
>>59934532
WD SSD's are basically rebranded SanDisks so it's meh. Also wait for 580 and swap 1600x for 1600.
>>
>>59931004
>no AA
>all these cards running like smoking shit
kek
>>
>>59934561
>that power supply is meant for SFF PCs
Oh I didn't paid attention, I picked the first one on the list since the one I want isn't there. In my country we got a more limited choice.

>You can save by dropping to the 1600 with no performance cost
I'll check the reviews thx.

>you can pocket it or upgrade the GPU or RAM.
Sadly no, Europe prices are fucked up.
>>
>>59934593
Well for place holders those are fine.
Since you're europe i'm assuming you're going with a be quiet! psu in that price point which is acceptable. As an australian I understand the pain of seeing these actually usable sub $50 PSUs in everyone's builds well.
Be quiet is a pretty solid brand too. We have them here.
The 1600 doesn't perform the same out of the box but the 1600 and 1600X both have about the same max OCs, and if you're not into getting it to peak performance you can just OC the 1600 to 3.6 or 3.7GHz and it will be nearly exactly the same as a 1600X, expect it might use like 4% more power under load.
>>
>>59934561
>dropping to the 1600 with no performance cost
Oh it's this guy again
>>
>>59934557

A good psu delviers over what its rated for. if your system is going to be pulling just under 400w a 500w psu (assuming its a good one) will be more than ample - especially if you plan to keep it a long time.
>>
>>59934644
>be quiet! psu in that price point which is acceptable
yeah
>>
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>>59930188
Updated image with more examples.

>>59930326
Xeon can be a good way to go.
But did you do a complete build? afaik the motherboards are usually $75-$150 more. Like you said
>I'd need to buy a sketchy LGA 2011 mobo to go with it as well as a cooler
And are you sure you don't need USB 3.1, and other modern features?
> Downside to Ryzen is I'd need to buy some DDR4 which has really spiked in price.
It's expensive, but its speed also makes a difference in some applications.

>>59930601
I'd spend the $4 more for 2400 RAM.
Rest looks solid.

>>59930711
Like someone else mentioned, even a g4560 runs Dolphin fine, so so will Ryzen.
But if you're making a dedicated emulator box, I'd just do a little mITX with a high end i3. It's the one purpose that i3s have.
>>
>>59934811

For some reason /v/ gets rather agitated when that picture gets posted over there.
>>
>>59934532
Why do people just pick the "recommended" pcpartspicker cooler or whatever instead of actually googling coolers, looking at a few, and really picking one out?

Also you spent a lot on other shit only to get 2666 ram. 2933-3200 is recommended.
And you're paying too much for that RX480, even with the Jet $20 off.

>>59934525
Do you need 32GB? 3000 is fine.

>>59934383
Same about that being too much money for an RX480.
RX570s are "VR qualified" and $170 coming tomorrow.
Don't recommend that shit 3 VRM phase motherboard.
And yeah get a 550W PSU. >>59934541
>>59934557
>373w
373w is what it'll use if you manage to load all 8 threads with strenuous instruction sets and fully load the GPU under a torture test. In most cases you'll use 150-250w.
>>
>>59934425
>atm
Just Wait™
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>>59934849
>For some reason
Glad I took time to piece it together, then.
/v/ is full of morons. I've tried going there before, but I just can't stand it. It reeks of underage. You should share next time they sperg over it, doe.

I don't get how facts can trigger people so much.
I get that I should have bought a 2600k over a 2500k, but oh well, shit happens, it was hard to know better back in 2011 before hyperthreading was used in games. But it's been used a bit since like 2013 now and extensively since 2015. It's been clear from any reviewer that's done frame time analysis for years that 4c/4t is trash.
I don't just deny the facts over it because I bought the wrong CPU back then.
>>
>>59934966

Don't worry, /v/ thinks /g/ is full of shit as well.
>>
>>59934425
It actually has problems in games that aren't dx12/vulcan. Look at Witcher 3.
It looks like it's issues in "GameWorks" games as well, unless there are other examples that I'm missing.

Nvidia's driver just plain has issues, and has for years. AMDs has become much better than it.
>>
I've got a build nailed down, but now I just need someone to put it together. Don't know any local neckbeards. Checked out the two b+m places near me and they're a shower of shit I wouldn't trust to change a plug. Anyone know of any UK places that'll (competently) build a system using only my choice of parts?

Inb4 "Build it yourself faggot!" Cerebral palsy, senpai. Not going to happen.
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>>59934966
>/v/ is full of morons.
Good thing /g/ is practically /v/
>>
>>59934849
always_do_the_opposite_of_what_v_says.png
>>
>>59935073
It's definitely a lot of vidya, but still less bad in the user base.
>>
>>59935061
You shouldn't let any of those computer store places handle your computer.
They're legally obligated to tell the authorities if they find out you have CP
>>
>>59935090
No it's not, both boards are equally shitty and if you believe otherwise you're biased as fuck.
>>
>>59935132
>both boards are equally shitty and if you believe otherwise you're biased as fuck
What did he mean by this?
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>>59935114
11/10, anon.

But seriously, /g/, hook a wheeler up here. I'm thiiiiis close to giving up and going with some prebuilt shitbox and nobody wants that.
>>
>>59935012
Because it's a bandaid. And like every bandaid ever it can only fix the problems so much, like the lack of hardware scheduler.
>>
>>59934904
Prices outside USA are fucked up.
>>
>>59935425
In some cases yes, but for what in particular there?
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