Oh Dear, Oh my

>>59921668
hahaha rypooo btfo

>>59921668
>Paying someone to delid your CPU for you
Is this the hardware equivalent of cuckoldry?

>>59921668
Oh, well, i5's are dead. Like, really-really dead.

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>>59921699
Only $25 to unfuck your CPU!

>>59921723
That looks like a medival torture device.

>>59921668
Oh shit I forgot the voided warranty!

>>59921728
It is for your CPU

It's amazing how much shit /g/ starts over 2fps

>>59921685
>>59921699
I don't know what OP's intentions were, but as far as I can tell, the point of OP's image is that Ryzen is better, because
>2 average-FPS difference
>noticably better 1% and .1% performance

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>>59921668
Meanwhile with Novidea drivers

>>59921752
>>59921782
No matter the margin a loss is a loss. And there is no second place just failure

>>59921795
EVEN THE FUCKING 1500X STOCK WITH LOWER CLOCKED MEMORY IS BETTER THAN THE 7600k AT HOUSEFIRE CLOCKS

You can't make this shit up

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>>59921806

>>59921795
Dammit Nvidia.
Hopefully $700 will be enough for Vega.

>>59921668
>18-month-old Intel archetecture first and second
>brand new Poozen with two extra cores only manages third

Just goes to show why Intel are better and more futureproof.

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>>59921806
>Intelfags can only offer bait this weak

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It's okay s-s-s-sttuters are part of the experience.

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>>59921852

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>>59921863
Seriously

>>59921858
>>59921871
>If you hate my cpoo it must be bait!!!

AYYMDfags everybody.

>>59921896
Oh god Ramesh just stop it. This is getting too boring.

>>59921668
>implying you need to delid to get 5ghz

you have to win the silicon lottery to get to 5ghz
you don't have to delid kaby, stop being a cuck.

>>59921903
Easier to delid than win it.

>>59921903
>you don't have to delid kaby, stop being a cuck.
90C are totally acceptable temps, goy.

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Why are Nvidia's GPUs total fucking junk? This is even a gimpworks title.

1/2

Damn, so the R5 is actually good? Been off of /g/ for the last few weeks

>>59921944
Yes. Unless you have novideo card.
>>59921941
Y-you can't see past 3.5gb anyway goyim.

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>>59921941
480 test

>>59921941
>>59921957
hehe, 1060 gets 1.1 more higher average FPS

>>59921915
i don't go above 78 on air, fuck right off you shill.

>>59921941
>>59921957
Holy shit, the difference between those 1% frame times is insane

what the fuck is Nvidia doing

>>59921668
>$475 - 115 fps
>$310 - 113 fps

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW

>>59922001
>what the fuck is Nvidia doing
Snorting cocaine and sucking various amounts of cock. That, or they fired their driver department and hired H1B pajeets.

>>59921974
dem mins tho.

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>>59921668
Why don't you post the REAL benchmark of the game @ 480p at low settings. Then we'll see how's the boss of this gym.

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>>59921995
>in a full tower with 5 delta fans seated under the polar caps while still throttling

>>59922017
>not 240p

>>59922001
I gad a GTS450, now a 1060. They have the same dips.
Just let that sink in for a while.

>>59922025
>not 144p
Pleb pls.

>>59921974
And half the mins while being more expensive.

>>59922028
>not 80x25 text mode https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s15eJ9WMfVg

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>>59921668
Explain these percentiles to a casualfag pls

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>gets demolished in gaming
>gets demolished in productivity

What's the point of the i5? It's not AMD?

>>59921863
d-delet

>>59922068
$219 Ryzen has better lows than 7600k OCed to housefire levels.

>>59922062
>not 30x20 with 2bit color

>>59921863
>>59921884
Surely something else is up

That shit looks atrocious

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>>59922020
>being this clueless
congrats on your shilling, best i've ever seen

>>59922074
Isn't 1500X a 4 core? Where's that Intel IPC?

>>59922095
do they really have gandhi on the money? kek

>>59922112
1500x is a lower binned defective 1700 with cores disabled, the core that are still enabled are also defective. enjoy your poo from the loo.

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>>59922130

>>59922112
1500X is a 4 core 8 thread. Equivalent of an i7. Look at the difference though. You need to clock Intel kaby lake chips to the moon and back for it to be relevant. All while being more expensive than a 1500X as well.

I have an i7-6700k and 32GB of ddr4-2400mhz. If my ram wasn't so slow, I'd have swapped out to Ryzen by now.

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>>59922168
RAM slow? You have dual rank RAM, which is fine for Ryzen.

>>59922187
>posting these benchmarks from some random site again

Call me when a credible source does some research into it and confirms their results.

>>59922207
(You), Ramesh.

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>>59922187
Why is everyone saying Ryzen needs super fast ram then? That was the only thing stopping me from grabbing an 1800X. The fact that I'd also have to spend another $300 on more ram. I do a good amount of gaming, video editing, etc. I know for production, the ram doesn't make a huge difference. As far as gaming, if paired with a 980ti, is Ryzen + 2400mhz ram okay?

The ram is two kits of Corsair LP vengeance 2x8GB. 2400mhz @ CL14. (I can get CL as low as 12, but the ram doesn't overclockwell)

>>59922207
>why does 2R memory that can better spread the load over the IMC faster than single rank memory that's ran serial


https://www.golem.de/news/ram-overclocking-getestet-ryzen-profitiert-von-ddr4-3200-und-dual-rank-1704-127262.html

>>59922259
Because people don't usually take much note of RAM rank, since it has no affect on Intel's architecture.
It's only lucky some germans actually bothered to test, the English reviewers only got wind of it half a month later

i3 are dead, no sense wasting money when G4560 is out
i5 are dead, no sense wasting money when ryzen is out
i7 is barely holding on

I am curious what will be intels answer, but I am glad AMD is succeeding

>>59922308
>buying a defective low end ryzen to get lower performance over i5

you have to but a far more expensive ryzen chip to kill i5

>>59921957
1600 is so fucking good even in gayming

>>59922335
There's a $50 difference between the Ryzen 6 and 4 core, significantly? Lol

I wouldn't even buy the Ryzen quad cores, but everything higher is great.

>>59922335
huh? you are recommending buying i5?
a 4 core / 4 threads?

>delidding a 7600k
>Buying a 160 dollar motherboard
Fucking shit dude

>>59922358
>getting 5GHz on a nondelided KBL without watercooling
>pulling over 200W from the socket with shitty $120 3 phase Z "Housefire-Ready" boards

>>59922335
>More expensive Ryzen chip to kill it

Lol no. An i5 unlocked is $200+ most places and you're looking at another $140 for any half way decent Z series board to take advantage of the Overclocking ability you paid extra for. Even at the end of it, you're only at 4 cores. AND you're paying for a cooler.

Meanwhile the r5-1500X is an 8 thread CPU with similar performance in gaming and the extra threads are he!Pful not only in gaming, but in work too. All for $190

Or the 12 thread 1600 for $210

Both of which can be thrown into the same budget B350 series motherboard that can be had for $80-$110 since AMD doesn't mean you for OC capabilities. And Ryzen chips will do a decent OC on their included stock coolers. You're delusional if you think he it is in any way still relevant for its current price. If Intel came down and lowered the price of their it's to $200 ish, they'd have a chance. But we all know how Jewish Intel can be.

t. I7-6700k owner

>>59922391
And that's the exact reason i5 is dead.

>>59922412
>you're looking at another $140 for any half way decent Z series board
you can buy decent z boards for 90 - 100

>Meanwhile the r5-1500X is an 8 thread CPU with similar performance
the r5 1500x is a 4 core low binned 1700 with defective cores symmetrically cut down that performs on average well below the i5 7600.

>>59922358
>>59922391
you've already been paid for shilling today pajeet.

>>59922358
delid not necessary for all 7700Ks to reach 5ghz
5.2 is the highest without delid

>>59922481
>you can buy decent z boards for 90 - 100
Shitty 3phases just kill my CPU tier piece of shit? No thanks.

>>59922297
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOsYOASddeo

>>59922412
so for around $40 more you can have a better processor and the motherboards are literally the same price range.

fuck right off with your diatribe of idiocy.

>>59922530
>>59922481
Goodest goys right here.

>>59922512
>you

>>59922481
HouseFire-Ready(TM) motherboards.

>>59922520
RAM frequency != RAM rank

Get a clue.

>>59922539
>a defender of a jewish company calling someone who called them out on his lies about another jewish company a goy.

you're cute boychik

>>59922512
you literally have to pay out the ass for higher power phases in amd boards too.

>>59922481
>the r5 1500x
>i5 7600.

Too bad the 1600 exists, is cheaper than the 7600, and eats it alive. Thanks for trying though, shekelchaser.

>>59922594
Except ayymd CPU's don't need shitton of power delivery to reach hosuefire clocks to have a resemblance of performance.

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>>59922346
>1600 is so fucking good even in gayming

>>59922641
Remember to filter the filthy avatarfag.

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>>59921752
It's amazing how one company's mid and low end still throws punches with and surpasses the other's high end whilst remaining just about stock.
Really causes you to ponder.

>>59921668

Dear Goyim

Please delete your post as this may result in a decreased Intel market share and hence decreased revenue that Intel could potentially invest in manufacturing facilities located in seized West Bank sites in the promised land of Israel.

Thank you for your understanding and cooperation.

Intel marketing team
All of our products are certified "Conflict Free". Visit Intel.com for more information.

>muh cockspeed


Netburst - The return

>>59922614
>eats it alive
No it fucking doesnt its way worse than the 7600k

>>59922729
*chases shekels down the street*

>>59922729
>> Min FPS is 10 frames higher
>> Despite being clocked 1.1 GHz higher
>> Costs less
>> Not even taking into account the 2 extra cores.

>> Is way fucking worse

Ok kike

Which site or channel is this?

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>>59922641

>>59922794
This is the technology board on the 4chan imageboard

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>>59922708
Yes goy, all you need is clockspeed! TDP, multicore, price, and upgradeability are all irrelevant!

And irrelevant one

>>59922794
No command 'Which site or channel is this?' found, did you mean:
Command 'pwd' from package 'coreutils' (main)

>>59922079
Yeah ok so it's the 1% lowest frames and the 0.1% lowest frames?

The smaller sample size gives us the lower average

>>59922853

If 'Which site or channel is this?' is not a typo you can use command-not-found to lookup the package that contains it, like this:
    cnf Which site or channel is this?

>>59922641
Stutters don't lie, your days are numbered, corelet.

>>59922912
*autistic screeching*

>>59922641
Your posting is just like Intel, always pulling the same old shit and expecting people to not get tired of it.

>>59921668
Ryzen gets destroyed by Intel, ur point?

>>59922930
>posting

All this cancerous avatarfag has been doing since launch is greentext

>>59922068
average is the fps under which the fps of your game is under half of the time (and over that half of the time).
1% and 0.1% are the frames per second that the game dips 1% of the time and 0.1% of the time, respectively.

A good way to think about these is that the bigger the difference between average and 1%, the greater the spread in fps that the game experiences. This can show as stuttering or just as the fps dropping during an intensive scene.

In an ideal world, the avg would be as close to the 1% and 0.1% as possible, which would mean that you'd get a constant fps and your experience would be without stuttering or things like that.

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>>59922938
>Not wanting to spit on Intel's grave

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>>59922912

>>59921668
>>59921795

>> 5.0GHz vs 3.9 GHz

So the 7700k performs marginally better than 1600x despite being clocked 1.1GHz higher.

lel. Intel is done.

>>59921941
so these are the famous nvidia drivers....

Is there a specific reason Intel doesn't solder or use a liquid metal on the IHS? It really can't keep manufacturing costs down much, as they already overcharge for their products...

>>59922997
>Is there a specific reason Intel doesn't solder or use a liquid metal on the IHS?
Kikery so condensed it's about to kickstart a black hole.

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>>59922614
>$10 savings
> realising you spent less on a gimped 1700 with defective cores.

>>59921941
Every *60 series is a piece of shit

>>59922729
Did you see a k at the end of "i5 7600" you kike shekelchaser? The 1600 is cheaper than the LOCKED it 7600 and eats it up, while the 1600x is cheaper than the it 7600k +delid +water-cooling for 5ghz and beats it too.

You shoah has arrived, shekelchaser.

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>>59923038
Mmm, synthetic tests.

I love Sysmark too.

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>>59922017
Is this still relevant?

>>59922997
they are preparing and laying the groundwork for further kikery

>>59922997
Die size is under 130mm^2 when die sizes are that small the solder joint is susceptible to micro cracks during thermal cycles. Ryzens die size is like 320mm^2 Intel e processors are 230+ so both of them can be and are soldiered

>>59923091
Ryzen is 202mm2
Broadwell-e is 246mm2

>>59923091
(((Thermal cycles))) only occur during extreme temp changes like LN2 OCing. Gas yourself kike.

>>59923099
192mm2 for Ryzen

>>59923099
Still quite large, AMD will do the same thing when it shrinks dies.

>>59923038
Enjoy your warranty voiding delid, more expensive board and more expensive cooling solution to stutter like a bitch in games, kike.

And after all that the 1600x still dominates the 7600K on 1% and 0.1%. intelcucks on literal suicide watch.

>>59922481
>the r5 1500x is a 4 core low binned 1700 with defective cores symmetrically cut down that performs on average well below the i5 7600.
>on average
And on minimum it's 50% better.
I guess you probably don't understand what smooth gameplay is actually like though.

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>>59923117
>Implying they won't just add MOAR CORES to keep the die size up

>OP shows a graphics of a $210 USD Ryzen kicking a $350 USD Kaby Lake
>AMD IS FINISHED AND BANKRUPT
If only Intel put into R&D the money they put into shilling, they wouldn't need to spend so much in shilling in the first place.
>>59921806
You're right and Intel lost here.

>>59923110
Thermal cycles occur any time your cpu has power go through it and then turns off.

>>59923127
y-y-y-yeah who c-c-c-cares about smoothness

>>59923127
Nice made-up facts you fucking AMDrone.

>>59921668
DELID THIS!

>>59923192
Even Faildozer is better than Intel now

>>59923155
>A thermal cycle is performed by going from -55 °C to 125 °C while each temperature is hold for 15 minutes.
Literally the exact article you're using to shill jew cum.

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>>59923133
There's no way they'd scale well, Amada Kokoro poster.

>>59922017
360p? what do you need 240p for?

>>59923235
Maybe they can add an iGPU then.

>>59923284
>wanting a iGPU in your fucking system with Volta/Vega/Navi $600 GPU

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>>59923267
oi vey

>>59923221
LOL NO

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>>59923305
Audible kek.

>>59923227
Eat my ass boychik

>>59923325
Nice try, schlomo.

>>59922510
>delid not necessary for all 7700Ks to reach 5ghz
If you have an expensive cooling solution and live in a 24/7 winter zone, you're right.

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>>59923038
The way they weigh those categories is fucked
>Intel ~20% better single/quad core
>AMD ~80% better multi core
>Intel 10% better overall

>>59923227
A thermal cycle is literally defined as heating and cooling of a material. There's literally no defined temperature of a thermal cycle. It gets hot then it's cooled.

I wasn't using an article you infantile dunce.

>>59921668
>>59921795
>>59921884
>>59921941
>>59921957
>>59922187
1080p in the year of our lord 2017

>>59921949
I've still got a GTX 670, what's the matter if i'd pair it with a 1600x?

>>59923341
You need to perform the exact thermal cycle for microcracks to appper, kike.

>>59923038
You know they're pulling the prices off random retard 3rd party sellers on Amazon, right? Never pay attention to the prices set on that site, they're never accurate.

But you probably knew that already, didn't you, shill?

>>59923312
LOL YES

>>59923342
1440p and 4k just make Intel look worse.

>>59923340
Yeah this is another one of those dumbass sites that claim K series i5's are a better value despite not coming with a cooler and requiring a more expensive motherboard. All they look at is the price of the CPU itself.

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>>59923342

>>59921668
whats the purpose of the white strokes there?
if they have purpose of comparing the cpus there is a problem. the r5 1600 reaches 113 fps at heighest whilst the i 5 7600k reaches 2 fps more.

>>59923373
>The largest online market place in the world
> random

>>59923463
Can't tell if trolling or just retarded.

>>59923398
>In instances where the gpu does all the work Intel looks bad.

Holy fuck is this the amd creed?

>>59923463
They're comparing lows, not highs. AMD's lows are on average a lot higher than Intel's lows.

>>59923467
>3rd party sellers
fuck off kike

>>59923463
you snort them.

>>59923489
Intel looks bad no matter what. It just looks worse on high resolutions.

>>59923360
> all solders are the same

Just fucking noise dive into freeway traffic please.

Since the 7700k is the only Intel SKU worth shit, Intel must literally be selling them so fast they can't even keep stock up

>>59923532
Most solders using fucking Indium behave the same way you moronic cockgobbler.

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>>59923398
That's as may be. I'm not gaming at 1080p on my PC today and I hope you aren't either.

>>59923548
I'm a professional CSGO player and the only thing I care about is 720p benchmarks

>>59921723
>When a product is so shit companies spring out of the ground to correct it by ripping it in half
LUL

>>59923548
1080p/144hz is pretty great to be honest. Would rather have the higher frames than 4k.

>>59923559
My dad works at Nintendo

>>59921806
>And there is no second place just failure
You mean like how Intel comes in a distant fourth on the 1% and 0.1% metrics?

>>59923573
I don't play FPS so I don't give a damn about high resolution monitors.
Though admittedly there is a difference between 60 and 90FPS in RPGs and action games so for me a 4k@80-100Hz is optimal

>>59923588
>4k@80-100Hz is optimal
So get a 1080ti or Vega, lower tessellation levels and you got over 60fps average on 4k

>>59921699
>>59921668

does deliding you CPU give you bonus throughput or something?

>>59923610
No, it gives you manageable, non destructive and throttling temperatures.

>>59923610
it's a requirement for OC'ing a 7700k unless you live in alaska

>>59923610
Intel decided to use TIM instead of soldering the IHS to the die, so post-Ivy Bridge CPUs reach meltdown temperatures even at stock clocks.

>>59921806
>there is no second place just failure
intel fanboy accepting intel is a failure lmao

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>>59923489

>>59923573
1080p is shit. If you can't afford a GPU to support 4k, go 1440p. It's a world of difference. You're literally running the same resolution as console players...

WHAT THE FUCK THATVISNT A REAL DELID, YOU NEED TO FUCKING SEND IT TO TEL AVIV FOR A GenuineIntel™ DELID.

YOU STUPID ASSHOLES!

>>59923669
I wish we'd get the
>Time spent beneath (X) fps
To go along side these fucking average/min graphs. They're meaningless otherwise.

>Cheap 3.9Ghz CPU almost wrecking Intels premium 'consumer' CPU overclocked to 5Ghz.
kek

>>59923715
Oy vey delet

*autistic screeching*

>>59921668
DELID THIS

Give it another couple of months and Ryzen 'FineWine TM' will be beating all of Intels lineup and Vega + Ryzen beating both Intel and Nvidia.

>>59923677
>consoles

blech, nobody wants to be like them

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>>59921668
HNNNNNGGGGGG
The 1600 is such a great CPU. 6 cores and it's not even that far behind from the muh GHz Intel CPUs. This is THE CPU to buy, you get much more headroom with all of the cores, you don't break bank, and you still have an upgrade path on the next iteration since AM4 is here to stay. Oh, did I also mention they have ECC support? You could even turn your desktop into a small homeserver running a ZFS pool if you decide to buy newer mobos.

>>59923669
A Core i7-7700K at only 4.2GHz? What the hell are you posting? Why hasn't it been properly delidded and warranty-voided like strongly recommended from Tel Aviv headquarters? Why are the tests done at 4K resolution instead of 720p? Delete this RIGHT NOW.

>>59923788
The best wine is from Israel you anti Semite. It's time to stop posting lies You terrorist sympathizer

>>59923806
consoles use x86 these days, so you better kys my dude

>>59923812
What about the 1600x?

based jim keller

>>59923610

>does deliding you CPU give you bonus throughput

Oh my god.

>>59923826
you better kys milady

>>59923833
I'd get the 1600x but not overclock it at all, so you can get the cheapest of cheap mobo for it.

>>59923835
They dont call him Jim Keller the Jew killer for nothing.

>>59923857
did you just rape me over the internet you shitlord?

Really don't get AMD fanboys, they're so dedicated to some brand they want others to buy inferior products

>>59923835
CERTIFIED

>tfw not going to get a new rig for like 4 years
just imagining the power levels this competition is going to create makes my dick drip

>>59923833
You lose the value prospect. Let the math speak
1600: $219 + $100-110(mb)= $329-339 for 3.8ghz
1600x: $249 + $130-150(mb) + $100-110( liquid cooler) = $479-509 for 4.1ghz

>>59923890
didn't expect that, huh sweetie?

>>59921723
Having to delid your jewpu

>>59923903
>implying Intel won't just pay people to take their CPUs again

Israel always wins, stupid asshole

>>59923909
I'M TELLING MY GENDER STUDIES PROFESSOR ABOUT THIS!!!

>>59922089
If it's any consolation you probably wouldn't notice playing at 60Hz.

>>59923931
israel wont exist in 4 years

>>59923893
anon, are you blind or have trouble understanding numbers?

>>59923826
lol. wat?

Tablets and laptops and IoT devices and all kinds of other shit use x86. Doesn't make it a PC.

>>59923959
Don't get my hopes up, I heard the same thing in 1940

>>59923940
point is frame takes much more time than even 20ms

>>59923305
kek

>>59923979
Many of them do, I'm not arguing with you on that point. I'd just be interested in knowing how the game subjectively feels playing on Kaby with frametimes like that though, since it'd likely be much more apparent on a 120Hz+ monitor than on 60Hz where it'd probably only hitch occasionally.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Efg5DojzeI
Pfff, Ryzen isn't worth ripping out my Mobo.

>>59921668

>$615 setup performing <3% better than a $310 setup
>also performing better than a $475 setup

Holy shit. Intel must be pulling on their side curls.

>>59924026
>that fucking shitty music

>>59924013
same way, never played on outdated hardware?
it doesn't matter if it drop from 60 or 100
if it drops you feel it, microstutter is even worse than drops though

>>59924049
Intel doesn't give a shit. They're making $4k per CPU on the server side (where dual CPU systems are common) and completely dominate laptops which is the popular solution today.

http://ark.intel.com/products/91317/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-2699-v4-55M-Cache-2_20-GHz

>>59924076
>that fucking bullshit shitty source

>>59924049
Doesn't need to, Intel has mindshare and that's all that matters.
Now if the people they're selling are mostly enthusiast like they were in 1995-2004, Intel wouldn't even be an option.

>>59924092
Right, the markets AMD is about to invade (and assrape).

>>59924092
AMD's server offerings are far more impressive than their HEDT ones.
And by far I mean Intel's getting sodomized.

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>>59924092
>He doesn't know about Server Ryzen

>>59921668
>-60 fps in CPU intensive games
yea fuck off pajeet, Bf1 is one of the few games where multicore is noticeable

>>59924092
will know for sure q4 2017 financial report

>>59924078
Oh, I have. Silky smooth 15 fps can still be playable if it doesn't stutter. But if it stutters, then the game becomes unbearable.

>>59921668
>>59924126
http://imgur.com/gallery/ESjL0#92DGnyK
my bad, actually is 180 fps less

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>>59924116
>literally
>another
>shoah

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>>59923749
ARE YOU SERIOUSLY TELLING US TO BENCHMARK AT ANYTHING OTHER THAN 720p LOWEST SETTINGS??? REEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>59924105
>>59924116
Oh you mean unreleased products?
Yeah I'm sure. And "Bulldozer will have 50% higher IPC" too!

>>59924180
>Oh you mean unreleased products?
Anon, i...

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>>59924180
Sshhhh, no tears, only lube now.

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>>59924126
>The damage control
Xbox Scorpio is using shitty Jaguar Cores still, so developers will have to program for lower CPU overhead and better multicore optimization.
Basically, once Scorpio comes out every multiplat is going to have proper DX12 optimization, AKA better multicore optimization.

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>>59924180
>implying this overheating garbage can compete with more cores, higher clocks, far more I/O and more DIMMs, higher memory bandwidth when Intel has to use 3 ring buses now to communicate

Lel

>>59924180
Someone's nervous...

>>59923610

Moment when watching someone being redpilled.
Its a beautiful fucking moment.

>>59924192
Are we taking AMD cherry-picked benchmarks as useful now? I'm sure the reason AMD picked a 'seismic analysis' benchmark is because that's the most relevant application to their users. lol.

>>59924212
Wait, what, THREE ring buses? Why
the
fuck
would you chain THREE ring buses, that's some fuckretarded latency pentaly.

>>59924241
because you need more ram
not faster ram

>>59924209
>DX12 will save gaming
did you miss this last year? dx12 was a scam, scorpio is doomed with that shitty jaguar cpu same as ps4pro

>>59924235
>I'm sure the reason AMD picked a 'seismic analysis' benchmark is because that's the most relevant application to their users. lol.
Oil companies do it all the time and they pay big bucks for quality hardware.

>>59921668
>Uses RX48 for benchmark
>toppest of the top keks

>>59924241
Because scaling becomes a issue for the ring bus over some 10-12 cores and you need to compensate with higher frequency, which means housefires.
The 32 core Skylake-EX releasing latter will most certainly use 3 ring buses, the 28 core ones might or might not, but I'm leaning on they will.

>>59924235
>Server chip
>"Seismic analysis isn't a real-life benchmark"
>AMD's Server chip can do seismic analysis? Lol but it can't even gayme well... AMD BTFO

>>59924263
>putting mid range hardware with mid range hardware for people buying mid range builds

Difficult?

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>>59921723
>buy intel cpu
>pay extra arbitrary amount of money for the ability to overclock
>pay extra to delid so that the temperatures aren't shit
>pay extra to purchase a cooler that isn't garbage
>pay EXTRA $100+ for 4 more LOGICAL cores

jesus christ, I am so glad I got myself a r7 1700 and oc'd it to 3.9ghz

>>59923305
that blue goes out further
that means intel is way better

amd btfo

>>59924263
>Ignoring the fact that Intel's own locked quad-core underperforms while being more expensive

>>59924282
REEEE tests should be only done on 80x45 resolution with 2 bit color

>>59922017
fuck you

>>59924307
that's because AMD is gimping Intel CPUs

>>59924262
>>59924273
0.00001% of the population has any interest in seismic analysis work. There are thousands of server benchmarks. Almost any of them would have been relevant to more of their server users than seismic analysis. If they were serious, they'd use an industry standard benchmark like SPEC Cloud IaaS.

>>59924286
>Deluded Intelfags™ trying to argue against this

>>59924331
>dx12 is AMD cheat

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>>59924331
ICC gives more performance to AMD than Intel, heard it here first folks.

Now lets use something that's more agnostic and fair like GCC

<<--

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>>59924092

AMD are about to wreck shit even more in the enterprise arena though. You think this gaymur desktop shit is anything? Watch when Naples is released. The consumer level Ryzen chips are just providing AMD with more information to further optimize their server chips.

>>59924339
>one of the most difficult server workloads is not an indicator of performance

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>>59924339
>Implying the results of a seismic analysis benchmark aren't indicative of server performance

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>>59924339
Go gobble that jew cum, son.

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>>59924373
lol seismic analysis again. Good one. I'm sure AMD will sell at least 2,000 servers into the Seismic Analysis industry.

>>59923931
> Israel
The crushing moment when he realised amd research is done in Israel too

>>59924421
Mr. Papermaster and Mr. Keller do not sound jew.

>>59924421
>Much of the design work on these chips was done nearly 19 miles away at Advanced Micro Devices’ 58-acre Austin campus.

>>59923149
>ryzen graphics

Can't be ryzen graphics there's no Igpu.

>>59924393

You would have been better off just not replying, rather you just showed how illiterate and butthurt you are.

>>59923498
>i pay more to buy direct
You sure you're not with Intel

>>59924373
I love the cop-out here. They couldn't afford to buy a (readily-available) Intel 96-core system so they just said Intel "couldn't handle it".

https://www.supermicro.com/products/system/2U/8028/SYS-8028B-TR4F.cfm

>>59924487
Never heard of Austin, Israel.

>>59924508
Amazon has a fantastic return policy, meaning I can fuck around with them, buy cheap stuff up to €6 "return it", get a full refund but not have to send it back.

>>59921668
>delidding
Enjoy your voided warranted

>>59924529
I love how you think these are 4P motherboards, which make around... uhh.. some 2% of the total market?

>>59924535
I'm aware, the other faggot was the one taking about Amazon being a random online company.

>>59924545
Point is, they could have put in a competing Intel solution, but they chose to say Intel "can't do it".

>>59924529
>2S is the same as 4S
Lol, nobody besides fucking Stanford uses 4S anymore.

>>59924576
>2P vs 4P board
What the fuck are you talking about are you tech illiterate?

>>59922705
kek

>>59924583
>>59924586
Show me where AMD specifies 2 sockets. They made up an arbitrary set of rules to exclude Intel. It's a worse than useless benchmark.

>>59924576
The point is that you're freaking clueless, you're not sticking this shit in 1U/2U racks or blades , they all have power requirements and 4P far exceed those, boards are 90% custom made for universities and some supercomputers.

1P/2P is over 98% of the market.

>>59924608
ARE
YOU
FUCKING
MOTHERFUCKING
RETARDED?

(((intel))) a shit

A SHHHHJHHHHIIITTTTTT

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>>59922997
infinite amount of jewery to save every shekel possible

>>59924570
>>59924508
>buying from shady chinese dealers

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>>59924608
Where the fuck do you think Intel or AMD can fit in 44 cores besides a 2P motherboard? Are you literally braindead?

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>>59924393
Seems AMD has a bit more markets in mind.
All that direct attached I/O will really be nice for ML

any bets? how much market share AMD got? 5-7% in one go?
Personally set on getting 1600x.

>>59924622
>>59924626
If you're maxing out the RAM it's not going to fit on a blade anyway. In this situation, a 4 socket is going to be cheaper since it can use smaller RAM modules in more sockets to get the same amount of RAM. Power requirements? We're talking maybe 200W more on probably an $80,000 server.

Good argument though. Calling someone a clueless retard is always a winner.

>>59923588
where the fuck do you get 4k @80-100 Hz? What monitor are you fucking using?

>>59924708
I said optimal, not that I fucking have it.
A lot of monitors can overclock to 75/80Hz though

>>59924644
Amazon warehouses in America are shady and chinese. Fuck of shill, bugging direct will yield you a processor straight from taiwan.

>>59924690
>maybe 200W more
are you sure it's not 300-350W more?

>>59924622
>1p/2p is over 98% of the market
...and seismic analysis is more than 2%?

>>59922259
Because the "Infinity fabric" which connects the core complexes together is clocked at the same rate as your RAM, so if you have faster RAM, the CCXes can communicate with each other faster. That helps when a thread running on one CCX needs something in the other CCX's cache or when migrating threads and processes between CCXes.

>>59924421
Almost every company has relations with Israel. But Intel is on a whole other level.

>>59924734
you know that intel has to daisy chain bullshit for bigger RAM pool on xeons right? no, not for seismic analysis

>>59924734
MORE FUCKING MEMORY PER RACK is always, fucking ALWAYS relevant.

>>59924765
>daisy chain bullshit
sounds like a technical term.

I guess we'll never know how big of a performance hit you'd take on Intel 4 socket for this application, since AMD didn't bother to test it. I wonder why they didn't, since it would have made them look so good!

>>59923967
the point was that he doesnt want to be like a console player, so the other dude said "consoles use x86". its not that hes calling consoles pcs, just saying that if he doesnt want to be like a console faggot then he needs to not use x86

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Optimally if you're maxing RAM you got a point, but in real world nobody uses 4P.

On top of that the 4P board you posted has 32 DIMMs, while the 2P Naples has 32 DIMMs as well thanks to its immense amount of channels.

https://www.servethehome.com/second-amd-naples-server-pictures-platform-block-diagram-112-pcie-lanes/

>>59924754
>Because they have a building in one of the top the technology centers in the world they're evil

>>59924806
oh i see. consoles use x86 in the same way that consoles use 1080p?

I never would have thought of that angle, because x86 isn't a practical limitation whereas 1080p IS.

>>59924819
Go away turbokike

Gas wasn't enough

>>59924814
Someone in this thread is really-really clueless how FUCKING BONKERS are 32DIMMs for 2P board.

>>59922095
Despite Gandhi talking about peace and stuff, he wasn't very fond of the black peoples.

>>59924837
The I/O count is more impressive to me, literally drooling the ML market, 6 GPUs that don't have to piss all over chipset or PLX bridge lanes.

>>59924795
you must be paid to act stupid, there's no other explanation.

the whole point of that benchmark was to test two similar systems of different vendors, so that's why both are 2-socket.
if AMD were showing their 4-socket board, they'd compare it against a 4-socket Intel, but that's not the case here.

but again, the shekels are too good to act rationally

>>59924872
All paired with Radeon Instinct in a bundle deal.

>>59924894
Optimally, but no small amount of these will go with Teslas, unless IBM decides to take over the world with Nvidia.

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>>59924192
>44 cores ever necessary
>when a GPU is much better

>>59924836
You're supporting Israel by buying AMD yet you're being a total hypocrite calling someone else out in the same. Fuck right off you dense waste of oxygen.

Pinch the pennies boychik, keep denying what you really are.

>>59924912
Yes, but bundle deal looks so sweet.

>>59924939
I loved hearing stories of my dad watching kikes get naked and buried alive while he was in Mauthausen

>>59924935
>Nvidia Tesla revenue per quarter: $150 million
>Intel x86 datacenter/enterprise revenue per quarter: $4 billion

You tell the industry son, I'm gonna buy a Tesla to run a multi petabyte storage farm because /g/ said so

>>59924978
Must be nice to live in a constant state of denial. If you save your shekels buying amd you can afford to give the Jews at amd more.

>>59924978
yeah goyim, the lampshades were real too.

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>>59924935
>he doesn't have 256 cores and 16 1080 ti's

socket change a year keeps the goyim in fear

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>>59924935
>Intelfags are this desperate

>>59924718
Not if you want to prevent housefires they can't. The FIRST 4k >60Hz monitor is just finally releasing later this year, but at a retarded price.

>>59925141
Whoa, exploding monitors.

Will go nicely with my Red LED(red goes 3x faster) 4500MHz RAM, overclocked 512SP Fermi and 7700k at 5.2GHz

>>59925118

>a socket change a year keeps the Intel accounts in the clear

>>59925197
A socket change a year keeps stockholders in cheer

>>59922068
91.3 1% FPS means that 1% of the registered framerates are below 91.3

>>59924721
There's a guarantee your shit works or your money back. Amazon doesn't play with returns. Buying from third-party is a gamble and you usually end up paying the difference in shipping. You're the shill trying to say AMD is more expensive than Intel.

>>59925118
a monopoly in growing keeps the shekels flowing

>>59924935
> nigger logic in action

>>59924878
You literally don't see the point of comparing an Intel solution at the same price point just because it has 4 sockets instead of 2? Great, lets just come up with technicalities to exclude all our competitors. We'll be the only ones with ANY benchmark data in our advertisements.

>>59925743
Holy shit you massive retard they're testing a Intel 2P rack against a AMD 2P rack, how is that fucking difficult to understand?

>>59925772
They didn't specify that was the requirement first off. Secondly, a benchmark that only shows one company's system is worthless other than as an ad.

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>>59925864
They say exactly what it is.
CPUs are dual Intel Xeon E5-2699 V4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtYTPcshyA0

>>59925924
AMD can't even compete with the 7700k you think they can compete with fucking Xeons? Get over yourself you fucking retard

>>59926018
Oh I am laughing.
Why shitpost in a thread that is nearing it's EOL?

>>59926018
7700k? Who the fuck would use a that corelet in something like a ECHELON or CP2K environment? Are you fucking drunk or really off your rocker?

>>59924638

kek, dat pic tho. I have been spending too much time on 4chan.

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>>59926018
Lmao, Intel's 8 core with quad channel memory can barely keep up with the AMD 8 core with dual channel memory, what makes you think a Intel 22 core with a slow ring bus (and still quad channel) can keep up with a AMD 32 core with 8 channel memory?

>>59926161
>MOAR COREZ
>MOAR MEMORY

>>59924421

Intel literally DEMANDED the Kike Government to build on seized lands. Even the kikes thought it was a bad idea, but Intel insisted. Wikileaks.

>>59926186
At this point your tears probably are devoid of any salt, what a roller-coaster.

>>59923645

Does that mean that my Ivy Bridge i7 3770k is affected? Never reaches 80 °C on stock cooler.

>>59926161
How about fair tests? Most of those are single threaded tests so Ryzen with its slightly higher clockspeeds obviously wins against the 6900k

>>59926273
>mfw Intelfags are now complaining about biased single threaded benchmarks

>>59926273
That explains the 7700k being absolute dogshit in each test and sometimes even 250% slower than Ryzen and BDW-E? Are you fucking retarded? What kind of HPC and compute workloads are single threaded? You're out of your fucking mind so hard you've started literally fucking foaming without any coherent thought left in that fucking sludge you call a brain.

>>59926273
>what the fuck is this guy thinking
>look at benchmarks
>7700k gets obliterated all over the place
Oh right, you aren't thinking.
I hope Intel pays you well, I wouldn't want this kind of pathetic shilling even for free, would make everyone else connected look fucking retarded.

>>59926273
>those are single threaded tests so Ryzen with its slightly higher clockspeeds obviously wins


HOLY SHIT. How times have changed.

>>59926273
Has Intel really devolved to shilling about its crappy server hardware on /g/?

>>59926161
>in 2 tests Ryzen performs like Bulldozer regardless of the fact it's whooping Broadwell-E most of the time

Talk about optimizations, AMD should fix these before Naples launches.
The 6 year of Intel's dominance has really put the software landscape into a shitpile.

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>>59926161
>>59926452
The Obench at the bottom is really interesting, the 7700k are pretty close but the 6900k is doing as bad as Bulldozer.

Well, it is GNU software so I really shouldn't be surprised.
But I wonder what the 6900k's bottleneck is? Here? Is teh test completely trashing its caches or something?

>>59922957
>average is the fps under which the fps of your game is under half of the time (and over that half of the time).

That'd be the median frametime. Average frametime is the sum of all the fps divided by the seconds of the benchmark.