How long until this kills Adblock?

About 3 minutes and 32 seconds

>>59919875
About tree fiddy

>>59919875
>have ublock

>it still gets detected

all that does is create an opening for someone else to make the same type of site that allows adblock users

link?

>>59919875
Useless again Umartix.

>>59920004
archived.moe

>Adverts then:
>A little bar on the side of the page
>An image that doubled as a link
>Annoying if overused but not strictly a problem on its own

>Adverts now:
>Full screen pop-up that covers the content
>Larger filesize than the content itself
>Animated
>Noisemaking
>Collects and distributes cookie data
>Totally disruptive and inconvenient on its own, when used en masse completely ruins a website

Wow, I sure can't figure out why people block adverts?

>>59920039
i don't see it

>>59919875
You mean:

>How long until ad blockers found ways around ad block detectors?

>>59920082
It's only time until that is fixed

>>59920051
Not to mention that websites have no control over the ads shown since they are served through an ad network

>>59919875
https://filterlists.com/

>>59919875
When i see that shit i just close the page and find what im looking for elsewhere.

>>59920092
I certainly hope so.

These things aren't even implemented correctly, you cal literally inspect element on it, delete it and you'd normally see site below it

>>59920136
>inspect element

only works on one page. Refresh it and it pops up again

I want an adblocker that hides the ads.

But still downloads them.....10.000 times over.
With enough people we could break the ad networks simply by requesting too many ads.

>>59920051
You forgot
>Liable to be hijacked by malvertising and serve you up drive-by downloads or fake tech support scam websites

>>59920145
Regex can solve that, since they typically use generated random strings so adblockers need specific rules for that invasive content.

Doable, certainly.

>>59920145
True that

>>59920149
There's a ublock fork that does similar to this. I forgot what it's called though.

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>>59920149

>he didn't remove adblock after the whole youtube fiasco

Free as in freedom , not free as in free of charge you faggots.

>>59920197
>>59920218
What are you doing

>>59920051
I don't get why we moved away from those google text ads. They fit into every website really well and it felt less obtrusive than all these giant video ads wasting space and time meanwhile there's only one link. Maybe they should've added a thumbnail to the text ad but that's about it.

The fact that majority of sites have no idea which ads flow through their site, just that they're from an ad network is pretty fucking horrendous. Global consumer protection agencies need to halt this shit immediately. iirc NYTimes website still is pushing malware through their ad networks.

>>59920227
avoiding your 9gag tier image

>>59920231
Because it's easier to get attention of retards with huge flashing ads that YELL click me

>has adblock
>checks x website
>"pls disable adblock to view this site"
>leaves and check another site
Done

>>59920115
This.
Fuck the shitheads who think because they created a website they have to 'fund' it by inflicting ads on people. Nobody asked them to create their shitty website. If they can't afford to run it or find a legitimate way to fund it they can fuck off and do something worthwhile.
There's no such thing as a unique website anymore.

>>59920237
Well, it didn't work.

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>>59920254
>>59920115
>>59920257

>Site is the only place that has said content

>Move elsewhere

>>59920240
It's funny because I recall clicking more text ads because they seemed less overt and in your face about it all, and you sort of trusted it way more than you do with ads now. More clicks = more money but hey I guess now all of the money comes from people who accidentally click a full screen video ad.

>>59920149
>>59920185
https://adnauseam.io/

>>59920185
Thanks, I'll look into it.

>>59920212
How is it "retarded" please explain or shut up.

>>59920295
That's because you're normal and most people aren't like that

>>59920275
What website?

>>59920303
How would it "brake" the ad network

>>59920298
>dat site design.

It's so terrible I love it.

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>>59920240
Or tech illiterate people.

I installed Windows 7 on my uncle's pc. He clicked something and the pc was filled with malware and viruses. Then i installed 8.1, same thing plus he was complaining about how confusing the start screen was. THEN I installed 10 and he managed to do the same thing in the very first day.

And I also tried installing Mint and Ubuntu on his pc so he could stop fucking up, but he found it too confusing and complained about how he couldn't run his Windows programs.

>>59920324
I'm guessing eating bandwidth or something? But that would require multiple people doing that at the same time

>>59920324
Ad networks sell clicks and views.

By generating shitloads of fake clicks and fake views nobody will be willing to pay for their shitty service.

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>>59920051
>>Adverts then:
>>A little bar on the side of the page
>>An image that doubled as a link
>>Annoying if overused but not strictly a problem on its own
Have you not polished your nostalgia glasses, or are you just imagining a time when you weren't actually around?

Websites have used annoying, blinking, interactive, huge and sometimes even aural ads since the 90s.

>>59920355
That would be a very ineffective way though

>>59920298
higher than normal zuz

>>59920355
when i fix normies' pcs i just install bunch of ad blockers so they can't even see the ads anymore

>>59920372
True, but on paper it would say people still view them etc, which would make people lost likely still buy them

>>59920298
>https://adnauseam.io/
Had no idea this existed, thanks.

>>59920393
I'm planning to, but the problem is now my uncle (for some retarded reason), install every single web browser out there, and uses all of them, even internet explorer. Now, if there's an adblocker that can work separated from web browsers, that would be nice (maybe there is, but i've been too lazy to search for it).

There's also this retarded reaction of his (and I assume this also happens with normies) where they download programs from any shaddy website, and they don't even care to read the checkboxes or buttons on the setup and end installing malware anyways.

>>59920298
>https://adnauseam.io/
This is great, but how does it handle malicious ads? I don't want what basically amounts to grandma clicking on every bit of malware she encounters.

>>59920355
You aren't doing your job as an actual tech literate person.
You're supposed to be setting up their system so that they actually have to try their hardest to fuck shit up. This means auto-updates for browser and OS. This means installing adblockers into every browser on their system. This means creating a separate account for them with less system privileges so they can't install BigBustyBabesOnline. And then you can go the extra mile for maintenance tasks, setting up auto backup and what have you.

It's much worse when you have family members who believe they're tech literate and refuse to change their shitty ways. Now that shit is agonizing.

>>59920298
zozzled

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>>59920063
i don't see it as well
he's fucking with you

>>59920051
They do it instead of requiring you to pay money, however. It's not particularly strange that they won't let those in who refuse to pay.

>>59919875

>find another site
>most just rehash the same information anyway

>>59920375
I remember playing games where they were parodying the constant stream of popups online.
Popups that generated more popups, it was hell

>>59920317
google.com

>>59920298
How legit is this? What about privacy, malware and other shit?

>>59920375
>or are you just imagining a time when you weren't actually around?

It may comes as a surprise to you but not all of us are underage.

You know what my first job was? Data entry.
You know what computer I used for that? CPC464+, monochrome 14" screen, lightpen input.

Likely before you were even born.

So yes, some of us really do remember "those days" so how about you fuck off?

>>59920450
The same way ublock does.

>>59920591
https://github.com/dhowe/AdNauseam/wiki/FAQ
As per usual, check out avail FAQ.

>>59920628
Must be the first alternative with the foggy nostalgia glasses, then, since you're still wrong.

Don't give a fuck about your web site. My privacy, security, and freedom from ads means more to me than any web site that does this. I'll just close the tab and move on.

>>59920628
It doesn't matter if you started doing arithmetic on an abacus, it matters that you're fucking wrong or senile if you think ads haven't always been annoying and massive as well as in audio.

>>59920685
So then why are you on 4chin?

>>59919875
>How long until this kills Adblock?
I read that as "This site is defective, go find the information you're looking for somewhere else".

I doubt it will change much.

>>59920095
> Not to mention that websites have no control over the ads shown since they are served through an ad network

Just a tip to any of you who are actually running some website.. try to sell advertisements directly. I know, it's really hard but if you have some special interesting topic then you may actually get some who are just out to put advertisements on the topic you're audience is into.

Advertisement network lack of control goes both ways, advertisers don't really know what kind of placement and traffic they are getting.

>>59920295
>It's funny because I recall clicking more text ads because they seemed less overt and in your face about it all
But you're here on /g/. A whole lot of "normal" people, specially now with mobile phones and tablets, will click those full screen ads links when trying to close them. If you're charging per click then this makes total sense. For those showing the advertisements... not so much.

>>59920441
I figured this shit out when I was 13, your uncle is just retarded. Only way to stop him would be setting up a restricted account where he can't install new software or use I.E. Then blacklist all adservers via hosts file. Make sure to install ublock on every browser.

>>59920735
4chin has ads? I never knew.

>>59920660
Looks good, gonna use it and see how it goes, thanks.

>>59920769
>Just a tip to any of you who are actually running some website.. try to sell advertisements directly. I know, it's really hard
Actually it's not that difficult, and selling advertisements isn't the only method. Using a combination of methods on top of 'direct' advertisements (that you can control explicitly), is absolutely the right path. Other methods to use in combination include accepting donations (incl bitcoin), having a subscription service, having a patreon, etc. This of course assumes you aren't running something like an ecommerce website in which you should be making enough from the services/products to cover server costs already.

>>59919875
Never, this is the same shit from when Google news rolled out. The aggregators get linked, paywalls fall out of relevance, again.

>>59920295
>I recall clicking more text ads
I have to ask what ads you've found worth clicking. In 20+ years of web browsing, I have literally never once seen an interesting ad.

I like what Horriblesubs had on their website
"If you find the ads annoying, feel free to manually block them. We won’t feel offended "

>>59920825
>has science gone too far

>>59919905
Because it's detects 3rd-party filter lists such as EasyList and so one.

>>59920857
how to avoid it then?

>>59920825
iirc, one was wow and the other was clothing. Although it's been years so.

>>59920780
Cloudflare + ads = no privacy, security, or freedom from ads.

>>59920082
>>59920092
Already, just enable this: https://github.com/reek/anti-adblock-killer

>>59920145
Set it globally.

>>59920906
how

>>59920218
What? Youtube fiasco is that companies pulled off ads from youtube, so there is nothing to block.

>>59920298
Gorhill don't approve this.

>>59920955
Because he wants to remain on google's good side and stay on the web store on the most popular browser around.

>>59920685
> privacy
> google CAPTCHA
Pick one.

>>59920298
Is this the shitposter's answer to adblocking?

>>59920972
He actually paid from google to transition rest of Firefox users from Adblock Plus and then to the Chrome because Ublock looks the same in both browsers.

>>59919875
Disable javascript.

Worst case scenario, let the ads load and then remove them.

>>59921086
That extra fun on fag sites that do their entire content loading via AJAX.

>>59921109
Or just basic form shit. But if you never fill out any forms, js has no use to you.

>>59920885
It's time for

4th party lists.

There are already grease/tamper monkey scripts that detect anti-adblock and feed it false information to prevent it from blocking you. I've not been stopped by an anti-adblock script in months.

>>59921378

name pls

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>onclick popups

>>59921410
anti adblock killer.

>>59919875
It doesen't. Its a constant game of cat and mouse and as long as you don't completely wall off your site for paying members only you will have people getting around this.

Remember most of these ad-killers are done on the client side, and as such can be manipulated by the user.

>>59921378
Also javascript whitelist plugins like µmatrix and NoScript are thing. They really aren't that difficult to use and only require intervention once per site.

>>59920051
Don't you remember how annoying 3000 pop-ups were? That is basically what adverts are right now.

>>59920039
it's the same on thebarchive

>>59920780
It has small, inoffensive images. Even when Hiro claimed he needed to sell out completely just to keep 4chan afloat (which nobody believed, but he did it anyway), we still never had anything too terrible. Of course, that's why moot isn't a millionaire and had to literally borrow money from his mother to keep the site alive, while soulless corporate psychopaths fuck our shit up for fun and profit with their own websites.

If it was impossible to make money from the Internet, we wouldn't need Adblock because greed wouldn't be an issue.

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>>59920825
>He never looked at based J-List

>>59922488
Maybe he's not into overpriced jap shit

>>59919875
Adblockers are for limpwrist commie cucks with tiny dicks who want to fight le ebile capitalism.

>>59920051
You forgot the video ads that turns the volume to 5000% making the computer shout at you with enough force to cause a second tsunami against Japan.

>>59920298
Quick question.

Should I disable uBlock Origin while using this?

>>59921412
Yeah, they're fucking abysmal and there's no way to block them like normal popups.

>>59920888
https://github.com/reek/anti-adblock-killer#instruction

>>59920578
>what is searx

>>59922623
You shouldn't use it at all. It flags your IP address as a spammer and you wind up being blocked from most websites. You can't even send email because they think you're 20 Russian students in a windowless room.

>>59922623
Never mind, I just answer my self, I'm stupid.

>>59922667
Please go back to Rddit....please?

Report it to anti-adblock killer:

https://reek.github.io/anti-adblock-killer/
https://github.com/reek/anti-adblock-killer/issues

It's a database of website-specific code that will kill their pathetic countermeasures. Obviously it can't cover the entire internet, but reporting it will surely help.

>>59920051
https://ux.stackexchange.com/questions/96680/asking-nicely-or-actively-combating-ad-blocking-what-are-the-ux-implications

>Ads are, practically by definition, content that the user did not intentionally seek out, which is at best tangentially related to the content that the user did seek out.

>From a pure UX point of view, there is no justification whatsoever for having ads at all

>Ad blockers are an attempt by the user to improve their user experience, by filtering out the elements which they don't want so they can focus on those elements which they do want.

>Attempts on your part to circumvent or block the user's attempt to improve their experience, will, quite obviously, further degrade their experience, because you're doubling down on the negative elements which they've given you a clear indication that they don't want

>>59920355
Why her tits so big

>>59919905
try
nameof.site##script:inject(bab-defuser.js)

>>59919875
You mean how long until we get an adblocker that can bypass these screens

http://realkana.com/
This is next level anti-adblock, trying to study and cannot with adblock.

>>59923085
Theres nothing new about self-destruction anti-adblockers, just report it to reek and it will generally get a fix added to the list.

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>>59923085
???
What ads?

>>59923137
>he doesn't know about japanese webpage ads

>>59923137
click on study

>>59923179
Ok now I see. Apparently, he thrown in adblock and study script in one file. If it's possible, it'll require hijacking that script and stripping adblock part.

>>59923179
>>59923242
It uses AJAX to load the study script, and it loads the ads through google. He can't detect them not loading.
He just disabled whatever was on that page, you can't see it even with the adblocker turned off.

>>59923137
it works for me with adnauseam

>>59919958
>Go through the process of designing a full website purely to appeal to people who specifically have adblock enabled.
>Non-adblock users will keep using site 1

Congrats you've accomplished nothing and made no money.

>>59923377
I could reverse-engineer that AJAX code and write my own "custom client" for his site that'd fetch the data without even accessing the initial ad-ridden pages in the first place.

Assuming I gave enough of a fuck about that content.

>>59923432
not everything does things for money mate.

>>59922474
Hiro added ads with drive by malware.

>>59923499
Don't waste your time, like i said it won't load anything even with everything turned off, i think the they just turned it off so you DL the app.
Don't know how OP made it work.

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>>59922552
>Gee I wonder who was behind this post

Don't know, but these targeted messages are usually a deal breaker for me. If a site feels the need to target them at me, then it has ads annoying enough that most people block them. I also don't want rogue javascripts hijacking my shit and modal dialogues covering up the content I want to see.

It's impossible for anti AdBlock to win. There are ways to completely stop AdBlock, but it is likely that a browser will flag your website as malicious because of how intrusive the method is.

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>>59923775
>It's impossible for anti AdBlock to win

It's been winning for a while now. So what if some web devs came up with new code recently? AAK is going to catch up.

It's a silly arms race backed by a failing business model whose proponents sound like whining manchildren.

>There are ways to completely stop AdBlock
>but it is likely that a browser will flag your website as malicious because of how intrusive the method is.

Explain.

https://pi-hole.net/

>>59923875
glorified iptables

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>>59920051
https://youtu.be/ulpeAAJEiZs

>>59923841
Not him, but the post you replied to argued that anti-adblock can't win, not that anti-adblock-killer can't win.

>>59923875
is this only for raspberry pi devices? wtf cant install it on arch.

>>59919875
What about redirecting all advertising domains to 0.0.0.0 on the hosts file? I do that and it effectively acts as a universal adblock, as it works for every application.

>>59919887
/thread

>>59924227
G'd day, you just invented an adblock.

>>59921170
this.
we can always stay one step ahead.

>>59923432
Traditional advertisements will go away in favor of astroturfing and shilling. You will not even know you're being advertised to.

>>59920375
I remember the web of the late 90's pretty well. Hell, I even bought ad space on a couple sites for a shareware app of mine.

Aside from the JavaScript popup dialog issue on less reputable sites, ads worked pretty much the way he described.

* Banner top, bottom, sometimes middle.
* 1-3 ad blocks in side bar.
* Animations were limited to gifs.
* There were limits on image size because website owners didn't want you fucking up end user's limited bandwidth.
* You dealt with the web site owner directly.
* You weren't tracked.
* Ads fit the site so if you're at a game site you will naturally see ads for games you might want.

If it had stayed like this I would have never thought of installing an ad blocker.

While I'm at it: the advertising I bought worked. It was worth my time and money and generated sales. Why? Because it wasn't annoying as fuck, and the people visiting those sites were likely candidates for my product.

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Retard.

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>>59924345
Or product placement

>>59924167
pretty sure it just werks on debian

>>59924167
It's in the AUR dummy

>Not using a hosts file
Shiggy diggy

>>59924398
>You dealt with the web site owner directly.
I don't know where you were surfing in the 90s, but I remember doubleclick ads being everywhere quite early.

>You weren't tracked.
That's very funny. Even IE3 supported blocking cookies for this exact reason.

> Banner top, bottom, sometimes middle.
> 1-3 ad blocks in side bar.
That's pretty much how most legitimate sites work today too, though (there are exceptions, of course).

>>59923576
Shit. I meant to post the merchant near the Wailing Wall or whatever, but this works too

>>59920298
this shit lags incredibly
don't use

>>59925091
are you using a potato as computer?
i get the same performance with an i3 and 4gb of ram

I just hide the element

>>59919875
Lad
https://reek.github.io/anti-adblock-killer/

>>59925054
>>You dealt with the web site owner directly.
>I don't know where you were surfing in the 90s, but I remember doubleclick ads being everywhere quite early.
I would say the majority of ads were not from a network.

>>You weren't tracked.
>That's very funny. Even IE3 supported blocking cookies for this exact reason.
Did some tracking exist? Yes. Was it at this level? No, not even close.

>> Banner top, bottom, sometimes middle.
>> 1-3 ad blocks in side bar.
>That's pretty much how most legitimate sites work today too, though (there are exceptions, of course).
Except they also use loud auto start videos and popups that cover the entire screen.

>>59921036
What?

either I avoid the website or start to use umatrix instead of ublock. Technically speaking umatrix is better than ublock except for the fact that you need to maintain the websites yourself

>>59923432
>Congrats you've made no money

Not everything has to be done to make money.

>>59924895
thanks, but I found adguard's dns. It works.

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>>59926093
What are you talking about, goy? You must be one of those evil communists who pretend to do things for your community. That leads to racism, you know. You wouldn't want to kill another 6 millions.

>>59919875
Already killed Adblock.
Ublock can block the script that does that, so never.

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>>59919875
>But without advertising-income, we can't keep making this site awesome.
Doesn't look particularly awesome as is, tbqh.

>>59919875
Never, you fucking retard. Kill yourself.

>>59920218
Go drink some bleach and shoot yourself in the mouth, you fucking shit smear.

>>59920218
what's all this about?

>>59926662
>Go drink some bleach
Sup, Reddit?

>ctrl+w
Problem solved!

>>59924227
post a pastebin with all the domains you redirect plz

>>59920051
you forgot autoplaying video seriously this shit made me get an ad blocker

I am in physical control of my machine, therefore I will win any battle on what appears on it.

Don't like it, feel free to lock your stuff behind a paywall.

>>59923841
replying to your image, not you:

We did grace you with our view. You stream on twitch because you have a desire to share what you're saying/doing/playing with other people and this satisfies that desire. You have a passion for doing it, and by watching, I am letting you live your dream of having your content reach people all around the world.

If that's not why you make videos, or you're only in it for the money, you should fuck right off because we don't want to watch your shilling and begging anyway. I like to watch enthusiasts sperg about what they like, not entitled manchildren who think they should become millionaires because they sit in their underwear all day and film themselves playing videogames. I'll move on to someone who either doesn't monetize or doesn't bitch about it when I evade. You should consider yourself lucky I even put in the effort to wade through the fucking obstacle course of intrusive and malicious garbage on the way to your video anyway. You can thank me later.

Never, you don't allow me in your page then I go away, fuck you. Simple as that, if everyone does then they'll stop those kind of restrictions.

This my current relationship with Forbes

>>59928530
this. Daily reminder to let these (((("""""websites"""")))) die

>>59919875
so my ad block doesn't work on youtube anymore. i figured it was matter of time before chrome killed that shit.

>>59920136
This one actually deletes the page content and only keeps the warning when it detects adblock, only way around is to disable js completely and only then delete the overlay element

Those fuckers are getting smarter

>>59928628
use ublock origin and update

>>59928647
still gettin ads

>>59928694
something's wrong then.

>>59928701
i'll keep tinkering with it

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>>59919905
>>59920082
>>59920888

https://github.com/liltinkerer/detect-and-kill-adblock/blob/master/detect_adblock.js

good luck killing this. you can generate it on the fly, so fucking with variables wont help you.

the only solution is to disable js but you can also get around of that if you want.

gorhill is not going to inspect every single site and how they improve it. maybe block few biggers sites, the rest gets anti adblocked.


this is the future boys, thanks to faggots who pressed the adblock to masses.

>>59928742
>>59928642

yeah, ad networks and site owners are just lazy to implement those things, but it has started already.

it's impossible to fight against it, at least with the current technology.

>>59928527
Pretty cool, but he's not going to give a fuck what some leech thinks of him and your empty threat of moving somewhere else doesn't matter at all since your adblocked view never had any tangible value in the first place. You're probably one of those faggots who also delude themselves into justifying piracy with some moral high ground bullshit. Just admit you can't be bothered with the ads. nobody here's going to judge you for it

>(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((we))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

>>59928800
He reached one less person because of his childish beggar's tantrum. If that doesn't matter to him, he isn't passionate about what he does, so I shouldn't watch. The greedier he gets, the more people (even those who sit through the ads right now) will just move on to someone that will shut the fuck up and share what they want to without the money-making scheme. Or at least I like to think/hope so. If not, it doesn't matter. The internet is full of options. I'll never run out of actual enthusiasts to watch so I can easily afford to avoid leeches like this shithead and move to another channel.

>>59928313
Here's some good ones that are still updated

http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/hosts.txt (last updated april 13)
https://hosts-file.net/download/hosts.txt (last updated april 17)
http://www.malwaredomainlist.com/hostslist/hosts.txt (last updated march 20)

If you use ublock, you can click on options and then 3rd-party filters and you will see many lists. The ones I included in this post are MVPS hosts, hpHosts and Malware Domain List.

Also if you use windows, there's a program called HostsMan that updates your hosts file automatically with your desired lists. For linux there's a similar one called Hostsblock.

>>59919875
I'll just stop browsing all these sites, I already do

>>59924430
I like lowkey product placement on anime
Like Autodesk Saya on New Game

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Is Pi Hole any good? Having a network wide adblocker would be nice, but I'm worried it's just gonna break websites or throw <pic related> where the ads were