What design is the epitome of "form over function"?

>>59916943
Macbooks.

Material design is amazingly efficient, its clear and understandable for normies. How a design should be.

>>59918122
You don't know what material design means. It just means implying physical space, AKA with shadows.

>>59918159
I dont care if I do, because I dont have to create or use it. But I like the look and the way it is clear to me and others.

>>59916943
Anything made by Apple

>>59918122
>amazingly efficient
>bury options and links under menus and sub menus so you can have white space.
>have random geometrical shapes for options, which make sense half the time.
It is shit; every design google has put out lately has been shit. It is amazing that webpages using this design are 90% white screen, and yet they are extremely bloated and laggy. This design is quite literally making the most bloated shit in the most minimal looking package.

>>59918240
Exactly. I'd rather have these options only accessible through arbitrary combinations of function, command, control and shift keys. So much cleaner that way

>>59918283
Or just use the space properly, every part of your site should be easy to navigate and not hidden under menus and submenus.

if material design is so bad then whats the alternative, or if you don't exactly have an alternative then what UI design in whatever program / site do you visit that you actually consider good

just curious

>>59918292
You didn't catch my sarcasm

>>59918295
See this for an example of a major corporate modern website with good design: https://www.yahoo.co.jp/

All options are immediately layed out without requiring the user to hunt through menus to find what they want.

See this for good design period: http://motherfuckingwebsite.com/

The best design is always having all information accessible upfront, delivered fast. How it looks is secondary, that is the most important aspect. Many modern designs have lost their way and have resorted to parallax scrolling nightmares, or laggy ass menus.

>>59918361
>https://www.yahoo.co.jp/

Explains why Japan has fallen behind in technology then

>>59918375
Last time I checked Yahoo japan is it's own independent company with no connection to Yahoo stateside. That, and unlike our Yahoo it didn't almost go bankrupt, actually is profitable, and doesn't have a shit site. Is modern technology bankruptcy?

>>59918361
If you consider those good design, you have no understanding of human perception whatsoever

>>59918361
How it looks does matter. Have you even been to design school or are you just spouting out opinions out of your ass?

>>59918451
Function is far more important than form. Sorry. A good UI is above all else functional.

>>59918122
>is amazingly efficient
it has the lowest information density I've ever saw in a design philosophy.

I'm not counting Currysoft's Metro cause that was invented so Currysoft execs could "design" software in fucking powerpoint

>>59918474
>Have you even been to design school
No, I didn't feel like being a part time barista. This is a technology board, not a fashion or marketing board. Of course people here tend to care about what is the most effectual, over how it looks. There is nothing stopping someone from taking efficient design and making it pretty, however "designers" tend to take the slow and bloated road with their UIs.

To give you an idea of the design student mindset, below is a link to websites nominated as the best by 'designers.' Can you honestly claim that the sites listed are functionally good? Or are they pure style over substance?
https://www.awwwards.com/websites/sites_of_the_year/

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>>59918567
> winners > site of the year
Damn shit that's disgusting.
I'd rather have early 2k design back.

>>59918489
A huge array of buttons is very functional, but really bad to use. Hiding and grouping, and especially the use of colors is incredibly useful for efficiency, ease of use and user experience.

>>59918567
>>59918628
Good thing you don't work in marketing.

>>59918489
>A good UI is above all else functional.
A good UI beautifully meshes form and function, period. Mediocre shit puts function/form over the other.

>>59918567
>linking to awwwards to prove your point
>literally have to buy your win
It's like pointing to the oscars and claiming all movies are shit. But, I can only assume you thoroughly enjoy making abysmal arguments on 4chin for some reason, so I won't stop you.

>>59916943
>22 replies
>no metro mention as the worst design language ever created
You disappointed me /g!

>>59918278
Are you posting from a 3DS?

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>2017
>people are STILL calling material design bad
guys, really?

>>59919628
See>>59918508

>>59918508
>it has the lowest information density
normies don't like too much information

>>59918508
man, nobody wants a shitload of information in their screens, they want something that's understandable, something that's easy to figure out and use, something that you can explain to your grandma in 10 min and that any people with advanced knowledge in tech stuff can figure out from just one look.

>>59918278
>whitetexting

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This is a great example of design done right.

I like Material too but it feels a bit more playful than iOS's serious, stark ("cold?") design.

>>59916970

How?

>>59920020

This. iOS is near perfect.

>>59918278
>>59918508
Information density is actually not part of the Material guidelines.
It's more about colors, contrasts, movement and interaction between different objects.

people who treat design seriously will rot in the same circle of hell as vidya gaymers

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>>59920181
Yeah let's just make everything look like this

>>59920020
Wish I could just clone it over to my Moto G4.

>>59918361
japanese websites are in general the literal manifestation of eyecancer on shitty resolution. How they never progressed past mid 90's "throw everything in there so it's cool" webdesign is beyond me. Especially after being able to design fucking awesome and useable interfaces for their movies and anime.

>>59920214
That already exists. It's called macOS

>>59918295
4chan, piratebay, two site that looks good and functions well.

>>59918122
An attested to material goodness is how well it works in the clover app

>>59916943
Modern hipster startup sites.
Giant picture with a quote/maxim/whatever
You fucking have to scroll to get to any content.

Plan 9 from Bell Labs

>>59918122
>buttons indistinguishable from other text
>hamburgers and vague icons without any label and no possibility of tooltips to give a hint
>"clear and understandable"

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why is this allowed

>>59920123
well nigga your clickable don't even have borders

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>>59918295

>>59919975
Blacktexting, actually

>>59921494
kill it with fire

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>>59916943
>PRESSED
>button pops out instead
???

>>59916943
Gnome 3

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>>59920020
grey on grey
shitty contrast in general
bubbly round corners
lots of empty space because fat fingers

>>59924054
There's a colorblind mode built in and yes it is designed for fingers because that's literally how you use a mobile device. I never got the people who adjusted their Android DPI to fit more shit onscreen at once. It kills usability in exchange for scrolling a little less. Scrolling, which is something that works fucking great with your fingers. Fucking luddites with their inability to adapt to new tech.

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>>59916943
>What design is the epitome of "form over function"?
90s-early 2000s skinned media applications

I unironicaly like material design : https://design.google.com/
It's a good design for smartphone, not realy good for desktop or laptop but at least we can have some consistency

>>59920020

iOS is the epitome o great design and function married together.

>>59925866
I think still has to find its footing on larger screens. For example while a left slide out menu may be necessary for phones, it's wholly unnecessary on desktops. Too bad Google doesn't actually care about developing strict standards because they don't even follow them.

iOS is boring and sterile
material is vague and has 0 distinction between views other than color
debate me

/g/ on design
>Muuh looks don't matter, just fuck my shit up senpai
>Muhh where is ma information densitity, why isn't every inch of whitespace filled with a button
>Muhh it has color === it looks childish
>Muhh geometric icons suck, I want a 4k resolution pic of a shelf for sub menus
>Muhh everything that remotely looks good and even uses minimal whitespace for readability and normie friendyness is inefficient design

Guys, this isn't the 90s, GUIs must be user friendly and not fucking /g/ friendly. Normies like colors, normies like having spaces between text so they can tap them properly on their fucking 5 inch screen. Those normies may he idiots, but they make up 99% of any app developers demographic. Jesus christ. We are the minority.

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>>59918567
Such clean design

Good think Clover is material design, or else it would be fucking useless