/hpg/ - Headphone General

>>59915889
How do people feel about the Shure 535s? Where would be the cheapest place to get them?

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M560 (200) any thoughts?

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How much snake oil have I imbibed?

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Newest-YINMAN-150ohm-Earbuds-Wooden-HIFI-Earphone-High-Impendence-Headset-Better-Than-Monk-Earburd/32779037303.html?spm=2114.13010608.0.0.sWDehb

>>59916147

>buying into the chifi meme

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>>59916163
Alright, what should I buy?
I have KZ-ATE, Koss UR-40, VE Monks (gorgeous highs, but bass is AWOL).

I don't have a real sound signature I like, I just want to hear everything clearly. Slight V-shape.

>>59915889
Whoah, nice OP pic.

They're super cute!

>>59916084
Probably the best entry 'Plug N Play' Planar otherwise find T50RP MarkII and mod them.

Just ordered a pair of Brainwavz HM2s. I know they're not popular, but still, how'd I do?

should i cop sennheisers HD 569 for $140?

>>59916452
Sounds like a bad deal.

What should I buy if I want to buy hd 598 but I don't want to be a pleb?

>>59916397
I really do not like them, I think they are terrible and even more terrible for the price. They are on ears with comfortable pads, no headband padding, and are really large which will be trouble for people with smaller heads. They have a large emphasis on bass and the treble is VERY poor and recessed. The material they are made of also shows grease really well.

>>59916505
Stop messing around and buy the 600

>>59916505
HD 598

>>59916505
DT880

>>59916505
You should buy it.

>>59916505
Why when you can pay like £40-50 more and get the 600? if you're gonna spend that much money on a pair of headphones it would be retarded to buy those. Just wait a little longer if you have to.

Got my 1992 STAX lambda and amp set in from japan yesterday. Total $160. About $45 of that was shipping and fees. Need to buy a new power supply but powering it at japanese voltage with my variac for the moment.

Only issues it had was a tiny exposed bit of wire on the cord I had to wrap and the pin that keeps one of the ear pieces from turning in a full circle instead of just 90 or so degrees was missing, not that it makes any kind of difference unless you're holding them in one hand.

Great headphones for the price. They look so goofy but sound so good. Good thing I guess. Probably why you can still get used ones so cheap from japan.

>>59916505
HD600 or K612

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Oh God it's gonna snap isn't it? Should I order a spare headband just in case?

>>59917222
just take them off the PC, leave them on your desk or something

>>59917222
>not having a headphone stand

all headphones use the same drivers. they unlock more potential with software. if you know what your doing you can hack the software to give you the best sound.

>>59917413
What's a good headphone stand for the Sennheiser HD600?

>>59917542
I don't know I was just memeing.

>>59917542
drill a hole in the front of your PC then screw in a bolt, that's the best headphone stand

looking to go a step up from my etymotic hf5s, but er4pt's are a bit pricey for me. anything good in between?

>>59917602
Don't do this.

i got a Philips for $10,pretty good for price

>>59917542
Use any type of stand that they can hang on and stick it down to your desk with double sided tape or something. Much easier to just grab with one hand.then.

>>59917740
thanks pajeet

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I am going to shill for a pair of headphones that I found absolutely stunning for the price, the Sennheiser HD598CS. These are the amazon exclusive closed-back version of the 598, and they have the same drivers as the old 598 from what I heard, but some say they have the drivers from the new 569.

Anyway I found these headphones have probably the best overall sound, comfort and build quality between all the mid end headphones (sub 200 bucks) that I tried.

They are easy to drive, offer good but not absolute isolation, are ridiculously comfy, seem durable as fuck, have a very nice punchy bass without bloat, but at the same time the mids are fantastic and the highs are not veiled like in the regular 598. The soundstage is amazing for closed cans, I find it also more realistic compared to the almost artificial tunnel-like soundstage of the regular 598.

Anyone else have them? Do you agree with what I said? Is there anything better for around the same price?

>>59917176
Honestly this. I don't even know why people recommend HD 598, since k612 are actual budget HD600. In fact, majority of people will not even be able to tell the difference between k612 and HD600.
The only reason to ever get HD598 is if you want to use them with your phone, or something like that, since they are much easier to drive. I have no fucking idea why people shill those mediocre headphones so much around here.

>>59918870
I'm not sure in Murrika but here the HD600 costs 300€ while the 598 can be often found for 99-130€. Also, the HD600 requires an amp, which adds to the price. The 600 costs 2x the price of the 598, but doesn't sound twice as good.

The 598 is a meme for a good reason, it has a pretty balanced sound, good comfort, and is good for vidya thanks to the retarded soundstage. If you want nigger bass and don't need to play vidya, get the other meme, the M50.

>>59918631
http://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/sennheiser/hd-598-cs

Pretty good, but I wouldn't say it's better than the open 598. They do not share the same drivers. I got the Cs on sale for $100 back on Black Friday, which for that price I'd say it's a good buy. I used them daily for a while; they're on standby now that I picked up the HD 650 last month for $300.

Are skullcandy headphones any good?

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>>59917542
Natures way banana keeper from Walmart for like 3 bucks

>>59919102
The open 598 barely have any bass, this rules them out if you listen to anything electronic. 598CS, just like the review you posted say, have a pleasant balanced bass, and if you want nigger bass, you can EQ it in, the open version distorts if you EQ the bass. I sent the regular 598 back because of this, for 150€ that I paid, they had veiled highs and lacked bass a bit too much.

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>>59919071
>also, the hd600 requires an amp

>>59918870
why not k7xx series anon or, Q701? any personal thought?

>>59918870
>why people shill those mediocre headphones so much around here
It's mostly one person who is very enthusiastic/defensive about their own gear. The suggestion of that model, the HD598SE specifically, before then was rare. You might recognize the person.

>>59919195
>using a 600 without any amp at all

Jesus fucking christ at least get an e10k for fuck sake. Let me guess, you think amps are nothing but a headfi meme? You're so /hpg/ bro !

>>59920140
>OY VEY! Just buy my audio gear, goyim!

Any other rec with similar style and size of Meizu HD50?

>>59919445
Because k7 series AKG headphones have completely different sound signature with overblown soundstage and highs.
I'm not saying there is anything wrong with them, just that they are not an alternative for HD600. k612 have very similar sound signature and are probably the most natural sounding AKG headphones, which makes them very decent alternative to HD600 at third of the price. They are objectively worse headphones than HD600, but if you want neutral headphones and can't afford HD600 you should look into k612, not HD598.
I'm not saying that HD598 are paritcularly bad either, just that if you value natural sounding headphones, there are better options.
>>59920342
Stop shitposting. Some headphones require more power than integrated audio can provide, deal with it poorfag. Go and educate yourself what SPL means and why is it higher for some headphones than for other.
Really makes me wonder, are you just upset that there are people who can afford things you can't or did amps kill your family or something?

Not a regular so I need some help.

Budget: up to 110€ (can stretch it to 130 with a good reason)
Location: Germany-ish
Source: Need a USB plug
Type: Closed
Comfort: A few hours of wear, so preferably comfortable on long runs
Past Headphones: I bought into the gaymen headpones, so I first got some platronics crap priced at 50-60€ at the time, broke after a year. Had Logitech G35 for 5 years now and they were great. Was impressed with the sound so I'm looking for headphones that can match it. Unfortunately I also need a mic with it for a skype call every month or so, but don't care if it's shit as long as I can talk into it.

>>59920746
Actually, scratch that. I don't need a mic with it, I'll just buy a separate mic to go along with it.

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>>59920746
>needs a USB plug

>>59920822
What's the standard for headphones? I got a USB one so I didn't have to go through the borderline torture of setting the headphones again through retarded realtek software because most of the time they weren't detected for some reason.

>>59916505
Just get some phillips fidelio x2 and stop being a pleb.

If you are looking for a hd 598, then that means you don't have enough money to buy the amp requiered to power the hd 600.

Don't listen to the bunch of faggots telling you to buy the hd 600.

If you want a can without bass, buy the ad900x

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>>59920904
>the amp required to power the hd 600

>>59921006
>I never had the hd600's :)).

>>59920874
Standard is 1/8" and 1/4"
If you absolutely just don't want to deal with your onboard audio then get a external dac. I'm pretty sure you won't find any headphones with a USB interconnect outside of gaymen headsets.

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>>59921051
Cool story

Anybody have experience with the Fostex TH900?

I'm worried it win't make up in sub-bass and soundstage against electrostatics enough to justify purchase.

>>59921059
thanks man.

>>59917413
I use a cheap ass hard plastic ruler as my headphone stand.

>tfw waiting for my DT 880s to arrive

Thank fuck I didn't fall for the HD 600 memes.

Not headphones but didn't want to make a thread.

Anyone know a good pair of cheap pc speakers for music?

What's the best cheap over the ear headphone (~<$100)?

I had AKG k240s (so that's my reference/standard) but after a few years they broke and then I was going to fix them but threw them out instead cause fuck it.

A new pair of them is like $50 on Amazon, or the K240s MKII is like $75. Is it a decent upgrade? Velour pads seem like they'd be an improvement, the pleather sucks dick. Anything else worth considering around that price range?

>>59920140
E10k is pretty shit desu. You'd be better off getting the Monoprice desktop headphone amp if your mobo DAC isn't noisy, or an FX DAC-6 if it is. Both output a shit ton more power and are about the same price. Or a Fulla 2 if you want to support the AMERUCAN ECONOMEY.

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Did someone just say best cheap over ear headphones for under $100?

>>59915909
>SE535
Has a tonality that slopes down from the lows to up top. Dark. Seriously lacks treble extension.
You can swap out the stock damper for a grey 330 ohm damper, if you like. This will make the 535 less dark, but still doesn't remedy that lack of treble extension.
535 is very sensitive, picks up on hiss very easily. Impedance takes a dip in the upper frequencies, which will make it even darker sounding from anything with more than a few ohms Zout.
The Shure fit is easy for most people to wear. Cables using the MMCX connector are commonplace.
It has been a long time since I last looked, but aftermarket should sell them for around 300 USD. There may be an issue with fake models on the aftermarket.

>>59921278
>TH900
What audiophiles think Beats sound like.
Big bass. Midrange suckout. Treble spike.
Sensitive. Not very "closed off", the design is too leaky to isolate effectively.
>soundstage
Not intrinsic to drive principle. Has more to do with tonality, the amplitude of the frequency response.

>>59920523
porta pros

>>59921140
He is not wrong, you never had HD600. And honest question, did you ever actually try to compare how those headphones sound when powered from proper audio source compared to your phone?

>>59921660
I have it but I need a bit more of isolation

>>59921659

I don't understand what you're saying about soundstage. I mean how "far" ( tall/wide) the sound goes.

>>59921573
Akg k612

>>59920539
you make yourself look like an utter retard.

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Gold Porta Pros, or Grado Sr60e?

>>59921827
>>59921650
So out of these which is better? How do they compare to the k240s mkII?

>this amp "discussion"
It seems that subjective requirement for volume and vastly different output power of electronics is a really hard concept to grasp.

>>59922489
Good argument.

I plug my HD600 straight into my ALC1150 output on my motherboard.

Fight me, faggots.

>>59922574
I shove dragon dildos up my boypucci.

>>59921805
My simplified translation: Soundstage isn't altered by headphones beyond the frequency response. There isn't a measurement of its width or height.

>>59920140
Fulla 2 FFS.

At least get something that has the specs for an HD600. The e10k is a shitty device that does not and distorts the signal on the low end because of separate circuitry for its stupid bass boost function.

>>59921140
Your phone has a headphone amp, like most phones in the market.

I use HD600 on mine and it sounds good. Not so much if I plug it to the computer directly.

>>59922674
E10K is pretty decent but the real problem is the crappy volume pot design.

You're the dumbest shill in these threads.

Fuck this mountain captcha.

>>59922704
Another retard, s m h.

>>59921478
>Thank fuck I didn't fall for the HD 600 memes.
Beyers remorse soon.

>>59922522
612 is more neutral, SHP's are more bright and mid focused.

SHP is a lot cheaper and has a 3.5 detachable which is handy.

Both are comfy stock, some people don't enjoy the 612 headband.

Panasonic HTX7 vs Zumreed ZHP-005. Advice?

>>59922754
Thanks, probably gonna go with the SHP since the AKGs are a bit out of my price range as a destitute unemployed person. Also was never wild about the headband on the k240s and it looks pretty similar.

>>59922754
Heh, I found the K612 brighter than the SHP9500.

>>59922574
I've got one of these motherboards.

The builtin amp has the HD600 sound "good", but it also makes them sound dark.

>>59922988
>but it also makes them sound dark
How so?

Care to do a loaded RMAA test to prove your statement?

>>59923052
>Care to do a loaded RMAA test to prove your statement?
Thankfully I don't need to prove anything to anybody. My absolutely unreliable ears hear a non subtle difference, and that's good enough for me.

If you're happy with your setup, that's all that matters. Otherwise, you sound like you do have the equipment and expertise to do your own testing.

>>59923092
RMAA testing is super easy if you have a line in device.

There is no way your motherboard makes your HD600 sound dark even with crazy high output impedance

>>59923052
Not him, but how do you do one of those tests?

>>59923156
You need a Y splitter cable and a 3.5mm male to male cable.

Plug the headphone into the Y cable and plug that into the source that you wanna test, plug the male to male on the other side of the Y cable and that goes into the line-in to test with RMAA.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/800208/the-rmaa-rightmark-audio-analyzer-source-and-audio-device-measurement-thread-measurements-in-post-3-tutorial-in-post-2#post_12386879

A simple loaded RMAA test can show you the frequency response of the source while powering a headphone.

>>59923121
Doing it with a simple analog loop is trivial.

Problem is putting headphones in the middle. I don't even have a mic, nevermind a good one.

I'm looking for something similar but more robust and comfortable to replace my falling apart AKG K501s. I use a fiio A5 so I have a fair amount of power to play with.

>>59923210
Oh, that's an interesting thing to do.

I don't have an y-splitter, but will build one at some point just to play with that.

>>59923239
http://nwavguy.blogspot.com/2011/02/rightmark-audio-analyzer-rmaa.html

More reading on RMAA if you're interested.

>>59923254
>http://nwavguy.blogspot.com/2011/02/rightmark-audio-analyzer-rmaa.html
Fun. I'll get to it at some point.

>Posted a few days ago
>Told to keep my current headphones Takstar Hi2050 instead of buying anything new for the budget I had
>Today right speaker dies
What did I do to deserve this? Decided to ask again but with a bigger budget.


>Budget
Around £100 this time

>Location
UK

>Source
PC onboard

>Type of headphone
Full size

>Open or closed
Open

>Comfort level
Comfort is pretty important to me. I wear them all day

>Sound signature
No idea. Neutral I guess?

>Past headphones
Prota pros and Takstar Hi2050

Haven't used many headphones really. Found the Takstar Hi2050 to be nice.

>>59923220
Budget?

AKG K612 is a good option if you like the 'AKG sound' and wanna stay within the same brand.

>>59923457
Just fucking re-solder the driver you pussy.

>>59923457
HD599, HD598se, HD558.

>>59923457
SHP9500 or HD558.

>>59922776
Is this /fa/?

Both are fine.

>>59923460
200 bucks or so.

>HD600 doesn't need an amp

Oh I guess the better sound when I plugged it into my O2 compared to my motherboard is just some kind of space-time anomally

>>59922811
Interesting, I was just going off the frequency response for the 612 as I only own the SHP's.

>>59921140
How are you liking those m8? I currently own a pair of 598SE and I'm thinking of waiting for the massdrop version of those.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B016JBZ4CW/

Purchased these a while back. They sound good to my untrained ear. But are they good bang for the buck?

>>59924252
>waiting for the massdrop version of those
Good luck.

>>59922674
I actually own the fulla 2 but it costs twice as much as the e10k where I'm from. The e10k is a start, and better than on board. That's my point.

>>59924113
Your birth was a space time anomaly, dumb placebo faggot.

>>59925031
>I'm too poor to afford thing, therefore it must be placebo
I'm quoting you btw

I don't get the whole mental burn in thing.

I've never found that a headphone sounds awful at first and then more agreeable later.
I can usually discern the differences pretty decently with the first listen, and have never felt the need to exclusively listen to one pair to adjust to the sound.

Am I doing it wrong?

Hi all,

I recently bought a pair of Beyerdynamic DT880s, 32 ohm.

Currently the setup I use is a Behringer XENYX 302 USB mixer to take sound from my laptop, to the mixer where I can EQ it, then to the headphones. its also useful for boosting volume.

However, I also know a new DAC will benefit my sound.

Question is, I really want to still be able to EQ the sound coming to the phones, as I'm quite picky listening to different stuff, but also a quality headphone amp that will drive them properly despite them being 32 OHM.

Are there any good hybrid headphone amps/EQ's or what would you suggest I do?

>>59925230
So called burn in is not a process of headphones going from awful to good. If you put headphones on and your first thought is "those sound awful" then chances are that those sound awful.
"Burn in" is just a process of getting more comfortable with headphone sound signature, caused by your brain getting used to sound.
Some people believe in that pads softening up and getting better fit to your head also has some impact, but hell if I know. Makes some sense in case of memory foam ones, and since that causes drivers to shift closer to your ears, it is possible.
I don't know if you often change headphones, but if you for instance listened to v shaped headphones exclusively for years, and then switched to good, neutral ones, chances are you would feel slightly off with rolled off treble and bass. It would not sound awful, but something would be missing. Over time your brain would adjust, and headphones would start sounding better and better over time.
That's basically whole magic of so called burn in process.

>>59924113
You got a double blind test that proves that, anon.
Go ahead, I'll wait. :^)

>>59925187
Please, go ahead and tell everyone how your magic audio rocks purifies your signal and unlocks the hidden potential of your headphones.

>>59925370
You can get a dac/amp like a Fulla 2 or e10k and use a software eq.

If you're already satisfied with the sound from your mixer, I'd just keep it.
You'd likely have more success with a parametric software eq than what's built into your mixer.

>>59925230
When I first got my 600's I wasn't crazy about them compared to my 702's and I was prepared to send them back the next day. They sounded a bit dull if anything but after a few hours, and a few drinks later I fucking loved them. I've never looked at another pair of headphones since.

>>59925187
Nope, I have a magni 2. Motherboard output cause DACs are snake oil and amps are too but I like the knob.

>>59922500
Well what do you want? Bassy or Bright?

>>59925230
It's called post-purchase rationalization.
Your brain should get accustomed to the sound after a couple of hours at most.

>>59921140
Those are not the HD600's. Fucking retard idiot.

>>59926130
>Fucking retard idiot.
Are you perhaps Russian?

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>>59926130
>HD600
>hard to drive

>>59926209
So you've never heard your very own headphones through a good amp? Why buy something and then intentionally get 60% out of it? We call people like you cucks around here.

>>59926177
Nah, just ran out of words to express how wrong you are.

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>>59926285
How BTFO are you right now?

>>59926305
Not at all. I have the same exact setup and if you can't hear the difference you should really get your ears checked by a doctor.

>>59926344
I can hear more frequencies than you, most likely. Stop falling for placebo memes. (That knob is so worth it though)

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>every PS4 headset I've bought has broken after a year of normal use

Welp, looks like I have to fall for the /g/ meme and buy my headphones and mic separately.

When will the HD650 be on sale?

>Nah, just ran out of words to express how wrong you are.
You didn't reply to me. I'm not that other guy either but...
>So you've never heard your very own headphones through a good amp?
What makes that amp not good? What made you think the other anon hasn't used them with something else? Regardless of has or hasn't, that wouldn't even be meaningful. You don't go around judging amplifier performance by ear. You most definitely don't go around taking other people's words on amplifier listening impressions or ridicule because you think you know better because you've "heard it".
>Why buy something and then intentionally get 60% out of it?
60%? What's that?
>We call people like you cucks around here.
You really proved yourself here. 60% cuck amping based on absolutely no knowledge of the specific gear in question and I suspect even less understanding of amplification. But please, do elaborate and explain what do you think is the problem here.

>>59926462
meant for >>59926285

i need sleep, fuck.

>>59926285
>Cuck
I wish this stupid fucking word never caught on. Nobody knows what it even means.

>>59915889
That Op contains only good taste in headphones.

>>59926285
>Why buy something and then intentionally get 60% out of it?
Fuck, you mean to tell me my HD600 is a HD360 because I don't use an amp?

>>59926569
>Turns HD360 and walking away

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>>59926569
>>59926608
Spit out my drink.

>>59926414
Keep on monitoring the price, it doesn't really go on sale for a specific time.

>>59926480
You need permanent sleep 2bh.

>>59925187

>implying a transparent amp does anything other than making your headphones sound louder

I should get into the audiophile industry since it's so easy making money off retards like you.

>>59925625
I haven't tried the software EQ yet, I just like the idea of physical mixer. more immediate and direct

>>59926409
shp9500+vmoda boompro is the only way to go

>>59927114
That or Status CB-1/Somic MM185 if you need closed headphones.

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What are you de/g/enerates listening to?

And what headphones?

Pic related, Persona 5 OST with Sennheiser HD800.

>>59927114
>>59927143
Or buy both and embrace the meme.

Variety is the spice of life, anon.

>>59927320
>video game music
lmao

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Recently got some new earcups for these and I didn't know how worn out the others were until I got these on. I like the look of the black velour pads more anyway. Happy as can be with them after 3 years

>>59927547
dude I got the 880s...really want some red "leather/pleather" whatever the material is pads.

any suggestions where to look?

>>59927547
Good taste in cans, who's the waifu?

ADTR though??

>>59925930
Yes.

Sorry if this is a noob question,

but I have the beyerdynamic dt880 32 ohm, could I still benefit from a headphone amp, and what would you recommend?

>>59927892
Nigga.

>>59927977
Unless your current source sounds bad (crackling, hissing), you should be fine without one.

That said, if you plan to upgrade your headphones a dac/amp is convenient to have.

Fulla 2 or e10k are the usual entry level recommendations.

>>59928031
I understand they could be driven fine by the fact they are 32 ohm. but I'm wondering if an external amp would produce better sound...noticeable?

>>59928021
bassy

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>>59927320
idolm@ster, HD600, Schiit stack.

>>59928119
PortaPro/SportaPro/KSC75(35)

>>59927803
that looks like Lia Marie Johnson

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Just got the m560s they are nice so far

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>>59927547
>>59928331
>waifu
>3DPD

>>59928110
Unlikely, particularly at that low impedance.

Unless of course the source was shit, in which case a dac+amp like the fulla2 would help.

What are some good headphones for beginners?

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>>59927320
Does playing vydia counts as listening to stuff? Was just enjoying VTM: Bloodlines with the DT880, really like the soundtrack.
>>59927547
Cool, being wanting to get new pads for the DT880 for a while now, how do you like the comfort on the new ones? Being so long i don't even remember what it felt like.
>>59928331
>m560
How are you liking it so far?

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>>59928173
danke schon

>>59928558
>m560
They are heavy so I don't pull them all the way down, they sound okay but have to get used to them since it sounded weird at fist but as I used them they started to gradually get better

>>59928513
see that's my problem, I realize high impedance would probably be better but I don't want to give up the versatility/convenience of the 32 ohm.

>>59928552
MDR-v6 or mdr-7506

>>59928682
>see that's my problem, I realize high impedance would probably be better
it's not, just be happy with what you've got

>Budget
100$ or so, idk, whatever will do it.
>Location
USA
>Source
Most likely my computers onboard sound
>Type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
Flying witch levels of comfort (super comfy, need to wear for long hours)
>Sound signature
idk, neutral?
>Past headphones
nothing to note

Long story short I want to study in peace and quiet, I live in two family house and the person below me has horrible hearing and has his TV on mega volume, he never turns it down. Active noise canceling might be useful but I'm not really sure how much sound regular over the ears block out.

>>59928831
well this all started because apparently there is bias among audiophiles about EQ.

was looking for a good EQ/dac amp combo, doesn't really exist. someone else mentioned software EQ but ideally I'd just like to have an "all-in-one" type interface between the computer and headphones I can tweak to my liking.

I guess I'm also guilty of assuming a "dedicated unit" would automatically equal better sound. (laptop DAC vs. separate unit)

>>59928832
M40x

>>59928915
also get some pads if you want better comfort

>>59928832
HM5/NVX XPT100 or Status CB-1/Somic MM185.

Comfy stock, won't need new pads.

>>59928878
Unless you want to get a rackmounted unit, I don't know how this could be done.

Even with a rack eq, you'd still need to buy separate equipment for your dac and amp.

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>>59927320
pic related,

HD 650 with meme EQ

https://my.mixtape.moe/dioldw.flac

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>>59925431
>"Burn in" is just a process of getting more comfortable with headphone sound signature, caused by your brain getting used to sound.

Wrong. You don't listen during the burn-in process.

>>59927426
>that guy who laughs at others' tastes in music but never posts his own tastes

kys

>>59929621
lol

>>59925230
>mental burn in
>mental

Lol, either you are very confused, or this post is bait? Burn-in has nothing to do with getting accustomed to the sound.

>>59929621
>not listening to 100 hours of pink/brown noise and sine wave sweeps

>>59929626
I kind of agree but video game/anime music is universally easy to mock.

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>>59929689
They hate us cause they ain't us. Weebshit is the master race.

>>59925370
Your mixer already has a DAC.

What's the best dac for under $400? I'm planning on pairing it with a magni 2 uber but I hear that the modi 2uber has a noticeably brighter sound signature that can even make some music sound shrill and unpleasant.

If it could focus more on the dac part and not have any preamp that would be cool too.

>>59929647
Is this post bait?

Because the only burn in that's real is how your brain adjusts to a new sound signature.

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>>59929621
But how do you know the pink noise is actually pink otherwise? The signature might slowly get clearer and end up becoming white noise before you know it.
And that's not to mention daltonic people.

>>59929838
Ask Head-Fi or /r/headphones.

/g/'s expertise isn't snake oil.

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>>59927143
>>59927114
I'm looking at all of these, thank you guys. They all seem to use a 3.5mm for their input though, so won't I need an adapter to use it with PS4? In order to get game audio.

>>59930151
You might be able to use it on your controller but I dont have a PS4 to confirm. Safest bet is to probably get a USB Adapter and plug it directly into your PS4.

>>59915889
Etymotic HF5 for on the go and HD 600 for home.

Is this a good combo?

I work with and listen to music all day. I've heard that HD 600 is good for making music. The noise isolation of the HF5 is appealing to me because I go on the bus every day and it would be nice to block out the noise of the bus.

>>59930269
>I've heard that HD 600 is good for making music

This is indeed a good combo, but you should mix on studio monitors and not headphones if possible.

>>59930302
I do, I mix on a pair of JBL LSR305's. But I also live in an apartment so when I'm making music late at night I use a pair of HD598's. I've been using them for more than 5 years now and they have served me well but they sound a little muffly.

>>59929838
If that's your budget, why not just get a dac+amp combo unit like the NFB-11? The Magni 2 Uber has a high resale value if that's what you already own. You could also try out the Modi 2 Uber and just return it if you don't like the way it sounds.

>~$300
>US
>Fulla 2
>Open
>Neutral
>SHP 9500, DT770 80 ohm

I really dig the sound of the DT770's, aren't too much of bass cannons and the highs don't sound piercing to me.

I figured the DT880's would be good place to start.

I know that the HD600's are the usual recommendation for this price range, but I wasn't impressed at all with the Sennheisers I've heard (owned the HD280, borrowed a friends HD598 before buying the SHP's).

>>59930479
DT880 or AKG K712

>>59930479
If you like the DT770 the DT880 is a natural choice, it's got a V-Shapped signature but it's much closer to neutral than the DT770.
Impedance options are always a plus too.

>>59930539
Would the Fulla 2 drive the 600 ohm well?
From my understanding the difference between the 250 and 600 ohm is relatively minimal.

>>59930479
Don't get Fulla 2, it's shit and messes up after a couple of months.

>>59930761
>I've already owned it for almost a year.

Haven't heard of widespread failures, seems sturdy enough.

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Best headphones to listen to idol stuff?
>Budget
370 bucks
>Location
US
>Source
Aune X1s
>Type or headphone
closed or open, doesn't matter
>Comfort
The best 360 bucks can buy
>Past headphones
ATH-MSR7, ATH-M40x, T50RP and SHP9500.

I was thinking in the 600s buy idk.

>>59930822
>idol stuff
I read in a cartoon it sounds better live.

>>59930822
*but idk

>>59930822
Yeah, go for the HD 600

>>59930151
You can plug right into your PS4 controller. Works for basically any type of headphone that has a mic in the cable. You can set it up to get game sounds in the headphones also - no need for speakers.

>Budget
1000-1,200 at most
>Location
USA
>Source
Parasound Hint, so a 3.5 mm jack
>Type
Over the ear
>Open or Closed
Open
>Comfort Level
I guess sound matters the most.

Lately I have been mostly listening to classical music, if that matters.

>>59931048
I've heard hd800's are pretty good for classical

>>59931124
How much of a loss of sound quality can one expect from an adapter?

>>59931195
None

>>59931219
Cool, thanks for the information.

>>59931195
Depends on the quality of the adapter. Some lower quality adapters have hissing on higher volumes.

What's the best headphones for my $1000 budget? I was thinking on maybe just going for beats but I saw this general while lurking and figured I'd post here.

>t. never had expensive headphones

>>59931040
>You can set it up to get game sounds in the headphones also - no need for speakers.

I assumed you need a USB connection to the console for game audio though. The 3.5mm jack in the controller only outputs chat audio, I thought. If it does game audio too it might be shitty quality.

>>59930329
HD600 is noticeably clearer than the HD598, HF5 is clearer than both but the treble is recessed.
>>59930822
HD650? Idol music is grating.
>>59931048
HD800 or HD800S.
>>59931321
HD800.

>>59931530
How much is Sennheiser paying you?

Dumbo here, doesn't having an attachable mic and a separate headset mean TWO cables dangling from your headphones?

>>59931589
If you have the mic attached to your headphones like an Antlion Modmic, yes. Otherwise and inline mic via 3.5mm like a BoomPro or a desk mic is a lot cleaner.

>>59931582
>sennheiser makes bad headphones

>>59931582
I do it for free.

>>59931589
Yeah unless you attach it to the headphone cable

>>59931611
boompro requires you to also plug it into the computer doesn't it? So you've got your input cable wired in and the regular headset cable wired in, double dangling.

>>59931649
BoomPro's mic uses the same cord as the headphones assuming your headphones are 3.5mm and your computer/laptop/console accepts both headphones and mic inputs. It comes with a splitter to use at the end of the cable.

>>59931679
Oh nice, so you just unplug the cable the headset comes with and replace it with the boompro for both input and output on one cable? That's awesome, thanks for the help.

>>59931530
Why not anything HiFiman makes?

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I play a lot of instruments, notably including keyboard, bass, guitar, and drums. I recently have been very obsessed with the finer details of my playing and want to be able to monitor without hearing the acoustic sound of my electric guitar, bass, or drums. I don't know if IEMs or isolation headphones would be best for this. I really want to just get one pair for all the instruments I play, as I often just plug everything into a mixer and put that into my amp, for a quick workflow.

I would like a screw-on adapter to 1/4", a flat EQ so I don't give myself extra work when mastering, and damn good isolation. A long cord would be nice but I imagine with a threaded jack I can pretty easily get some sort of extension. I'd like them to be comfortable enough that I can wear them without unbearable discomfort for ~5 hours. I have small ear canals.

The EQ does not have to be perfectly flat, just nothing that will throw me off musically. The isolation and range is far more important to me. I already have open back headphones for mastering.

And finally, the obstacle to success in any recommendation: sub $50. I'm looking forward to anything you guys come up with, though I understand I might be asking too much, and monitors like this may not be attainable at this price. I am absolutely willing to compromise on certain things as long as the phones can serve their purpose.

>>59929621
That doesn't stop it from adjusting sensory perception based on everything it learns and senses. The fact that you are doing a "burn-in" process is enough to make you hear the sound differently the next time you listen to them.

"Burn in" doesn't change anything in the headphones.

/hpg/ newfag here, are these any good? https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B011ITKLFU/ref=ox_sc_act_image_2?smid=A19NVE4G6SOT2C&psc=1

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Cross boarder from /tv/. Headphones broke and good timing because I was in need of a replacement anyway.

>Budget - between 100 and 150.
>Location - US
>Source - Straight into the back of my PC.
>Type of headphone - Full sized
>Open or closed - Either really
>Comfort level - Doesn't matter aslong as it doesn't make my ears fall off from long term use
>Sound signature V-shaped? I'm looking for something that has a wide sound stage AND also has deep bass and hard bass, I like to listen to faggy EDM time to time.
>Past headphones - MDRv6's that broke just an hour ago from use. Was given to me by my mother in law and they were already in bad shape.

Sorry if this is yet another person asking for yet another purchase pander but I'd rather ask people who know a lot more than I do

>>59932319
>Sorry if this is yet another person asking for yet another purchase pander but I'd rather ask people who know a lot more than I do
This so fucking much

>>59932319
>people who know a lot more than I do
Don't confuse autistically strong opinions with knowledge.

>>59932391
why do all generals on 4chan hate themselves

>>59932319
Beyerdynamic DT770 32 or 80 Ohm or perhaps even another pair of MDR-V6/MDR-7506 depending on how you liked them. I'd opt for DT770 because of comfort and better bass extension.

I have a very large and very powerful brain but it come with the drawback of no headphone ever fits me without trying to crush my brain like a vice.
Where can I get headphones for the exceptionally smart individual like myself?

>>59932421
I was looking at the DT770's and they fit everything I want but I have one question

How is the soundstage? Bass I like but hearing stuff in gaming is also nice.

>>59926414
They're going for €309 in my country. I'm still tempted to get the HD600 for €277.

>>59932444
If you had a pair of headphones that handled bass well, you'll probably miss the feeling with the HD600.

>>59932464
Does HD600 have bad bass?

>>59932427
Something big. DT880/DT990 Premiums have low clamp and they are sizeable. Plenty of others too. Audition some headphones or order from a store with lenient return policy. How do you measure brain power?

>>59932435
>Soundstage
See >>59922657 and >>59921659

It isn't altered by headphones beyond their sound signature. Soundstage as far as headphones do alter it doesn't play a meaningful role in sound localization accuracy which is what I think you are getting at there. Localization has more than to do with game's sound processing rather than the capabilities of your headphone.

>>59932493
I wouldn't say it has bad bass but if you're somebody who enjoys feeling a bit of a bump in your ear when there's some bass going on, you may want to consider the 650.

How about we delete the HD600, 650, Phillips SHP900, Fulla 2 and E10K from the face of the earth.

>>59932599
How about instead we delete your face from the face of the earth?

>>59932573
I'm not a bass-head, infact so far I've been listening to music on a K702.

>>59932630
You shouldn't have a problem then. If you listen to music like this on an HD600 you might miss the bass:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ckR822Wu4k

>>59932691
Listening to that kind of music on a bassy or a dark headphone would cause me brain cancer

>>59932599
but then we won't have any good headphones left

>>59932738
Why? The highs are percing enough on my 650s

>>59932738
This one's even more so.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZLmf3n00IM

are there any ear buds that aren't complete shit and/or completely over priced? I don't want to walk around with a headset.

Also any recommendations for a good desk mic?
>just get the cheapest you can find
They pick up typing, they have really low quality and pick up background noise.

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I saw an anon bring up the Audiotechnica ath a900x last thread. He said it was better than Sennheiser.

What does /hpg/ think of it?

>>59932783
>>59932824
Too much bass induces headache on me.

>>59933054
Nothing is better than Sennheiser

>>59933084
>Too much bass induces headache on me.
Ah okay, I get that too but moreso with highs. Can't stand them

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>>59933084
>Nothing is better than Sennheiser

>>59933084
So sennheiser is for people who can't hear bass. Gotcha.

>>59930479
I would still suggest the HD600. They're very good.

Both HD280 and DT770 are far from neutral, so my opinionated guess is that you've never used anything close to neutral for an extended period of time. It takes getting used to, easily a week of exclusive use.

I was similarly unimpressed by HD598 at first, but loved them a week later. HD600 didn't take me as long, but I'm sure they would if I didn't have HD598 experience.

>>59932599
Sounds good. I'll enjoy my HD600 with sub-bass aka HE400i.

>>59932493
>HD600 Bass
Compared to HD598, it appears more present and more detailed (vs somewhat muddy).

But they do not shake your skull, which imho is a good thing as that's very uncomfortable and fatiguining, but some people do really love their bass. For those people there's HD650, although I'd suggest HD600 regardless.

>>59933389
yeah exactly
which is why i also own the 400i

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>>59933441
My nigga.

>>59933389
legit Q: What's so great about subbass?

>>59933497
Not just sub bass desu. HD600 have a midbass emphasis while the HE400i have more neutral and tighter bass. Sub bass is nice though, play a 30/40 khz tone and you'll get what I'm saying.

>>59933533
*hz not khz
30Khz is $3000 cable territory

>hpg tenderfoots having strong opinions over their personal possessions which they can't help but to "share"

>>59933545
>30Khz is $3000 cable territory
what

https://www.amazon.it/dp/B06XC2QK2M/ref=gbps_img_s-4_4fa6_4cac1980?smid=ACIE0Q231FZBW&pf_rd_p=b3fb8d9a-28b1-466c-938a-7980bd204fa6&pf_rd_s=slot-4&pf_rd_t=701&pf_rd_i=gb_main&pf_rd_m=A11IL2PNWYJU7H&pf_rd_r=K6TZQ4WMD43MA145PWNV

Help me please, i really wanna buy these... Is this trash?

>>59933559
You can't hear 30khz unless you buy $3000 cables or those little rocks you put on your setup to enhance fidelity.

>>59933533
>>59933545
I'm confused. Isn't subbass <20Hz? Which is not hearable.

>>59933565
Because these add the necessary distortion so that harmonics show up in the actually hearable range?

>>59933570
you can feel it.
when i play tones below 20hz on my audeze lcd 2's, i can feel it.

>>59933578
It's a joke, anon.
>>59933570
Look up the Wikipedia page. And you're correct about <20hz being inaudible.

>>59932529
>>59932421
I just bought the DT770 80ohms

Thanks anon(s)

Best headphones for ASMR?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEaqQ9CEhR0

>>59933595
And that's somehow a good thing?

Life is enough of a pain without my headphones shaking my skull.

>>59933674
it's good because it's subtle. when i say i can feel it i don't mean earth-shaking rattle, i mean subtle vibrations. bass is fantastic and full on the lcd2s

>>59933389
If HE400i was as good as HD600, anyone would talk about it here, but sadly for you it doesn't happen.

>>59933570
No. Sub-bass is usually considered as the frequency spectrum that is included from 20 Hz up to 60 Hz. Human ears can't hear sounds below 20 Hz. The lowest tone an instrument can produce is 16 Hz and it's the lowest note of the organ. Noone can hear it though.

>>59933145
Sennheiser produced the best open headphone ever in the late 90's. No other company has been able to do better so far, so yeah, Sennheiser is the best.

>>59933738
>If HE400i was as good as HD600, anyone would talk about it here, but sadly for you it doesn't happen.
Nice appeal to popularity.

For people who aren't retarded fanboys, the HE400i is quite close to the HD600, sometimes I forget which pair I have on if the song doesn't feature prominent bass or something else which highlights the subtle FR differences between the two.

>>59933787
HD600 is cheaper, so it's inherently better.

>>59933828
If you were to tell me to pay MSRP for the HE400is, I'd tell you to fuck off.
However, you can often get them for $250 which is cheaper than the HD600.

>>59933578
That would be IMD and it's not cable related. Cables add no distortion or noise and they aren't limited to relatively very low frequencies right out of our hearing range.

>>59933599
>And you're correct about <20hz being inaudible.
Not quite true but works as a rule of a thumb.

>>59933787
>the HE400i is quite close to the HD600
I guess that depends on your idea of close but I would disagree.

>>59933927
>I guess that depends on your idea of close but I would disagree.
It's as close as headphones get to each other. If you're of the opinion that no headphones sound similar, then sure.

>>59933940
>It's as close as headphones get to each other.
Now that's just ridiculous.
>If you're of the opinion that no headphones sound similar, then sure.
Many sound similar.

>>59933973
Post an example.

>>59931904
And I want a golden toilet seat.

Fuck you.

>>59932316
Focal make some good shit, and some awful shit recommended for meme points.

Could go either way, look up some reviews. If not one hifi place reviewed them consider moving on to something else.

>>59933981
Sennheiser HD 650, HD 600 and HD 580 all sound very similar.

AKG K601, K701, K702, K612, K7xx and K712 sound similar.

Basically every single Stax Lambda and SR-009 sound similar.

Audeze LCD-series headphones sharing either closed or open back design sound similar.

There are plenty more but I think you get the idea.

Budget: 140$~
Location: [spoiler]russia[/spoiler]
Source: PC
Type: full sized, oval
Open

Sound: bass preferable, maybe V-shaped
Past headphones: Senn PC360

Headset broke, so I decided to buy proper headphones. Looking at HD559 (HD558 is a bit too expensive at 190$ to 110$ for HD559) are they any good?

Also if you know any decent microphones you can attach to them, everything I see is either big expensive ones (not an option for space reasons) or really cheap crap ones. Are there any mid range ones with noise filtering on them?

>>59934035
>headphones which use the same drivers sound similar
No shit, autist.

By the way, you're still WRONG. For example, the FR of the LCD-2 and LCD-4 differs more than the HD600 and the HE400i. Or the Lambda Nova Signature and SR-009. But we may as well just end the discussion here because you clearly haven't heard any of those and didn't even bother analyzing the FR. At least try a little bit.

i bought my he400is for 230 usd

>>59934103
>No shit, autist.
Not a lot of those use the same drivers. Look at impedance measurements to know that. FR is altered by a lot more factors than driver. Sometimes radically so.

>But we may as well just end the discussion here because you clearly haven't heard any of those
I've heard plenty of them. This is pretty irrelevant.

>and didn't even bother analyzing the FR. At least try a little bit.
I'm not able to do your learning for you or start posting graphs where you see something else or perhaps even deny information presented to you.

>>59934220
Not an argument.

What you do is misinterpret obvious context clues (whether on purpose, or due to an utter lack of social skills I don't know) in order to get your opponent to clarify the most asinine and obvious of issues. This is a delaying tactic. When they proceed to do that and prove you wrong, you strut around like you're somehow smarter than they are. And perhaps you are, you've wasted my time talking to you, and probably the time of hundreds of others to whom you ask deliberately retarded questions.

You're delusional, socially inept, and perhaps illiterate. Or I could just call you $10 walmart shitphones anon like the rest.

haha classic 4chan

>>59931342
What? It does both, and actually sounds pretty good as far as bluetooth goes. Its fine for viddy gems.

>>59933570
Subbass would usually be the range of frequencies from 20-60 Hz. Infrasonic is the range below that.
Reposting:

>can't hear sounds below 20 Hz
A common misconception. The tonal quality of sound does change around 18-20 Hz, pitch breaks down. Even so, these can still be described by conventional ideas of loudness.
>Bass in that region is more felt than heard
Not quite. The profoundly deaf do not pick up infrasound as well as people with functional hearing.
Low frequency sound produces vibrations in the chest cavity, but ears are still the most sensitive to sound input. The chest tactility idea does not bear out in examinations comparing headphone/earphone listening to a loudspeaker array, the threshold of detection is the same.


>The Effects of High Level Infrasound
http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a081792.pdf
>Hearing at low and infrasonic frequencies
http://www.noiseandhealth.org/text.asp?2004/6/23/37/31664

I'm im a bit of a pickle /hpg/; I'm going into the Navy pretty soon so I need a different solution to my internal sound card but here's the real kicker, my onboard is dead. Should I just go Fulla 2 via USB or is there a different way to setup a Magni2?

>>59934283
>What you do is misinterpret obvious context clues
I try not to interpret anything here as much as I can. If I'm interested and unsure, I ask a question. 4chan doesn't work like other forums or real life. Be direct and literal if you want to make a point. The only thing which you are weighted on is the content you type. There's too much shitposting and misinformation being spread around here to take guesses on what people mean or whether they are being serious or not. I'm not going to waste my time explaining something on people who aren't interested and cooperative. Quite often people assume me having some ulterior motives based on something completely neutral I post. It's extremely tiresome.

>in order to get your opponent to clarify the most asinine and obvious of issues
Not everything is asinine and obvious. There are a lot of topics here which are thought to be and perhaps even should be. When I ask people to clarify, it's generally a case where I strongly feel they are in the wrong, no matter how simple the topic.

>This is a delaying tactic
I'm not here to prove anything or argue. I mostly want people to learn and discuss.

>When they proceed to do that and prove you wrong
That's very rare. People usually don't reply or call me "A retard who should learn thing X kthxbye". I'm all for explaining but I generally won't bother if the the reply is just an egotistical insult.

>you strut around like you're somehow smarter than they are.
Definitely not what I try to convey with my posts. I don't have a problem with someone knowing less or more than I do. I have a problem with the attitudes and lack of critical thinking present here. People being confident in something they don't understand and some acting insufferably superior on top of it.

I ask questions in the hopes that people would actually stop and think for a minute, to make them question their own knowledge. Maybe I should change my ways.

Drop the attitude and assumptions. Happy Easter.

>>59935523
Onboard sound does conversion of digital samples into an analog signal in the audio range.
Magni doesn't do that. It amplifies input voltage signal through the audio range.

>>59935492
>The Effects of High Level Infrasound
>Hearing at low and infrasonic frequencies
Thanks.

>>59935523
Any DAC in between your source and the Magni would work or you could just get some device which does DA-conversion and headphone amplification together. Fulla 2 is one option.

https://www.amazon.com/Cyber-Acoustics-headphone-microphone-AC-104/dp/B0055CR9PC/ref=cm_cd_al_qh_dp_t

Do garbage cheapo mics like this typically pick up lots of background noise? I just need something for skype etc.

>>59931904
Etymotic MK5.
>>59933389
>recessed upper midrange and shit treble
No thanks.
>>59933564
It has good reviews, it seems fine.
>>59933787
Are you deaf? Or do you have low standards? I'm all for someone preferring the HE400i but it's not close to the HD600's signature.
>>59936825
It's fine for skype.

any headphone amp suggestions for hd 650? just go for a fiio? would like to use it on pc and phone and 650s are a bitch to drive

>>59937119
Objective2, Schiit Magni 2, etc.

>>59937178
would prefer one with included DAC

>>59937258
E10K, Fulla 2, etc.

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Just looking for some ideas
>Budget
$200 AUD
>Source
PC
>Type of headphone
Full size
>Open or closed
Doesn't matter
>Comfort level
hot chocolate during winter
>Sound signature
neutral
>Past headphones
Fostex T50RP

>>59937282
thanks

Amazon has the Status Audio CB-1 for 63USD currently.

Is that a good deal? I currently have the ATH-M50 (for around 5 years now I think), how does that compare?

>>59937322
HD558?

>>59937558
Looks comfy

Whats the difference between HD558 and HD559?
Other than 80$

>>59937784
1.

>>59937322
AKG K612

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I need to buy in-ear headphones, how do I make sure they will fit? I bought this shit some time ago and they are too big to fit in my ear canal and are constantly falling out, even when I barely move. Switching rubbers does not help.

>>59938313
CIEMs

>>59938668
I'm just going to assume that they are fucking expensive so that's not an option

>>59939144
>>59939144
>>59939144

>>59938313
Possibly check if you're inserting properly. Google how to insert earplugs for example.

Next, if you're sure the nozzle is too wide, Comply makes foam tips and has a compatibility guide. Maybe try some iems that use the narrower cores (like 100 vs 400).

Finally, the body of the iem might be shit and not sit well in your ear. Maybe try looping the cables over your ear and tightening the slider if there is one.

>>59939163
it's probably not going to work but I'll try these, thanks

>>59939287
Have you tried putting them in the same as you put eardefenders/earplugs in? i.e. lift the top of your ear, press earbud in, let go of ear

>>59937116
You're a good guy

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