/mkg/ - Mechanical Keyboard General

>>59914046
Exactly how long has the keypuller wiki been down?

>>59914130

Long enough that if someone pumped out a clone they could steal his traffic

>>59914137
yeah, if you had a copy of all the data. that's like the whole fucking problem.

>>59914194

It's all on archive.org

>>59914216
scraping it from archive would be an enormous pain in the ass.

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>>59914220
what makes you think that?

>>59914232
experience scraping sites.

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>$214 Custom Numpad Edition

Why would you do that

>>59914290
you know how audiophiles?

but with keyboards.

>>59914290
what is a hobby

>>59914382
what is a placebo?
what is snake oil?
what is a waste of money?

>>59914399
>placebo
what about this numpad can be placebo'd? it is a keyboard, it does what you would expect.
>snake oil
it works exactly as a numpad
>waste of money
this much is true

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what's /mkg/ typing on today?

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How are cherry clear switches? I'm a mechanical keyboard newb and was looking at the Coder's 60% keyboard with cherry clears. I was looking at it because for gaming, QWERTY is good. I want to increase my typing speed and being able to on the fly switch to DVORAK would be nice.

I'm currently on a cherry red board from Corsair. The ten keyless model K65.

>>59914486
Filco Magestouch Convertible II

>>59914486
TADA68

>>59914533
IIRC it's like browns, but with a more noticeable tactile bump.

>>59914533
>Coder's 60% keyboard
The what?

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>>59914552
So like a more quiet blue? Blues are fun and I love the feel, but having your keyboard noise picked up on mic is annoying.
>>59914559
Sorry. The brand is called CODE and it's a 61 key keyboard
Has on the fly switches for changing keyboard layout.

>>59914046
Speaking of numpads whos getting the ducky calculator?

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>>59914486
my comfy fission

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>>59914290
It gets worse anon.

>>59914533
tfw cherry milkys are the best but theyre so inconsistent that its a lottery I'm not willing to keep playing

>>59914533
>>59914598
I like them, and I think they're Cherry's best switch. A lot of people think that clears are too heavy for them, though. They have the heaviest bottom out force out of Cherry's switches. They're much heavier than blues. It might be hard to game on them.

Personally, I had no problem with clears and I have "girly" hands. I don't game, though. Honestly, it all depends on your own preference. I don't think you'll be able to find any MX Clear board near you, but if you can try out something with MX Blacks at a local store, you can gauge if you like the weight, because they're similar.
You can also just not bottom out the clears, but some people find that difficult to do.

>>59914486
Rosewill RK-9000V2

What keycap brand is the easiest to clean? I find cleaning my current keyboard quite difficult.

>>59914598
>Sorry. The brand is called CODE and it's a 61 key keyboard
Oh, the Pok3r rebrand.

>>59914716
You take your caps off to clean your keyboard, right?

>>59914687
Yea I bottom out reds. I'm very heavy handed. I really wanted a 60% board though. Unsure if I should go clear then if they're that heavy. Ugh. Just want a cool backlit 60% board with blank caps. I'm forever stuck at 95 WPM and it's getting me down.

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What is the best full sized keyboard for $125?

>>59914750
Yes, I do. I should of asked if the type of plastic for kecaps affects how quick it gets dirty.

>>59914629
Got one already, it's pretty nice.

Only downside is they made it use a CR2032 button cell which doesn't provide enough power to run the screen's backlight, so if you want to use it independently in the dark you'll need an external battery bank for it.

>>59914844
Sad.

How easy would it be to add a bigger battery?

>>59914533
Clears are like a heavy brown with a more noticeable tactile bump. It's a bit hard to describe really, they're not like Blues. Blues have a "sharp" and "concise" feel to them, clicky describes them very well in terms of both sound and feel. Clears are not like that, I guess I'd say a Clear is more like rolling over a bump, there's no precise, sharp click feel to them like on Blues. They're also heavy, I use a Clear keyboard at work and it's the heaviest I've ever used. I like it, but if you're used to light switches or soft rubber domes the feel of Clears may be a bit of a shock.

>>59914759
if you are heavy-handed it should not be a big deal. I was really nervous when I bought my cherry clear keyboard, thinking that I wouldn't like the weight. But I actually love them. Ultimately, you aren't going to know unless you try it.

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>>59915009
Ok I'll keep that in mind.
>>59915024
>not going to know unless I try it

I know but the problem is that none if my local shops have clears in stock. Ever. Every other color but never clear. Hmm. Maybe I'll just buy it and take a leap of faith.

>>59914921
Dunno, I haven't managed to get it open yet. There's four screws in the plate, but it still holds together with them out and nothing else is visible (or hidden under the rubber bumpers, the metal serial number plate or the battery compartment).

>>59915072
every other color? you should try out the blacks and greens then, if you haven't already. they're similar in weight to the clears, if you like them then buying clears will be less a leap and more a hop. I own both clears and blacks, and only feel a small difference in terms of weighting.

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>>59915469
Yea my local Microcenter has reds, blacks, blues, greens, the Nova hybrid switches from cooler master, and the oddball oranges from Razer.

I'll give blacks a try then.

>>59915597
>greens
Seriously? You sure you don't mean Razer?

>>59915971
Yea. Green and orange from Razer

>>59915978
Those aren't the same as Cherry greens.

>>59915978
just so you know they're just rebranded kailh switches

Is there a good usb custom keyboard, sort of like a numpad only keypad.

But so that I can make each key do something specific? Say press key 1, and it opens onenote, press key 2, and it changes several audio divice settings, etc.

>>59916048
you have to get a programmable numpad and bind your shortcuts and macros to a function layer

>>59916077
Any recommended ones?

Thing is I don't want my regular keyboard affected so it cant be bound to anything existing on the standard keyboard..

How do i bind macros onto my tada? The configurator site can only set keys

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>>59914598
I've got this keyboard. It's my first mechanical keyboard so I can't give much of a review, but I quite like it. The keys are definitely heavy, but it's very satisfying to type on. Other switches kind of feel cheap to me.

It looks really nice as well with the white lighting and backdrop. The picture doesn't really do it justice.

>>59917286
if it has tmk support or similar firmware support otherwise you can't.

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>assdrop tomorrow
wow

>>59918024
I regret not getting his previous (although I couldn't thanks to prices/dlc/shipping/anticpated import fees)
I'll see how much this one is and if the dlc is more favourable

>>59918024
Why is everything he makes grey

There are other colours

I really like the look of those 60% keyboards, but I'm a bit worried about loss of functionality.

Sure I lose a numpad which is a bummer, but how do you use the Function keys and what not? Does it work like on laptops where you hold some function key in combination?

>>59919160
Yeah, it usually works like that, where you hold Fn and press a key so it has a different function. Some boards allow you to set up shortcuts to completely switch to a different layer, so you don't need to hold Fn, just press a combination, say Fn+2 for example, and switch to layer 2 where you have different commands programmed on everything, and then switching back to a more regular layout with Fn+1.

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Is it worth it buying a new board with double shot keycaps but a style I don't like? Pic related on massdropped has me interested as a secondary board but the caps are only laser etched. The other blue aspie shit is double-shot.

Also how does the KBParadise V80 hold up anyway?

>>59920269
I don't have one, but after reading some online reviews they seem to have firmware problems. Those are old reviews so maybe they fixed them. To be honest if you want doubleshot keycaps then just get a keyboard with them already. Ducky Ones cost between 80-90 bucks

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I need a cheap DSA keycap set for cheap. Something that has legends on it. I can't stand this OEM set anymore because it only works well with my hands when the feet of my keyboard are up... and keyboard feet are the fucking cancer and cause RSI.

I've been looking at DSA keycaps but they're all:

1) expensive ($100+ for TKL)
2) cheap but no legends of any kind
3) sold out

Can someone pls help me out?

>>59920521
Get chink DSA sets. They are still expensive, but at least they give you a full set
https://m.aliexpress.com/s/item/32801180789.html#autostay

How do you order/create a custom Numpad?

>>59920677
Just 3D print it yourself

>>59920594
Anon, I looked at that one. Too expensive. You can buy Dolsch (OEM) for like $25. You can buy the same set but without legends for 1/3 of the price.

I'm not gonna pay $70 for a chink knockoff that also looks like shit. If I'm gonna spend that much, I might as well buy an SP set for $30 more.

>>59918024
>OEM
>LIGHT COLORS
yeah,. no thanks.

>>59920856
dolch is ABS just fyi

Requirements:
- No gaymer RGB backlights. Just regular white.
- Full black, no stupid colors in the number row or shit like that
- minimal branding
- Great feel
- Not $4018419051290571205712

Can you name one MK like this, /g/?

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>>59920882
I know. But I care more about profile at this point.

BTW, I've seen Carbon DSA set on a chink site for <$100. But I don't speak chink and they don't even translate the sales page to English so I'm not gonna pull the trigger on it.

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>>59920474
>Ducky Ones
That's actually my current keyboard.
As for the V80 I guess I'll have a more detailed look but I'm leaning towards just sticking with the laser etched set since it's landslides better than my laptop's keyboard which is what it will pretty much be connected to 24/7.
This is the blue set that I wasn't very fond of after seeing the vintage set.

>>59920935
You mean taobao? Thats just group buy leftovers. If you want DSA or SA profile the you aren't gonna get it cheaper then 60 buck Filco ones.

>>59920894
Properly fill the template and then maybe.

>>59914793
the one you will like the most.

>>59920894
There are several keyboards like that. If you want just get a Ducky One for those programmable media keys and macros.

>>59914252
What Keycaps?

>>59921396
Pulse

Do you guys use wrist rests? I have a rubber one, and I don't really like it. Is it worth it to try and save up for a wooden one, or can I use it without a rest?

anyone else looking to get into the matt3o hi-profile set on MD tomorrow?

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Which Leopold Topre board is the best quality / best regarded?

I can't decide between the FC660C or the FC980C. I'd take whatever is closer to a Realforce 87 55G...

I CANT DECIDE

Anyone know where I can get custom backlit mx keycaps? Everything ive found is either non backlight. Or black backlit.

>>59921630
Wrist rests are bad for you so I don't use one

>>59921778
Chyna
Aliexpress has lots of options.

>>59921948
any reason that you actually believe that? It's only worse if you want carpal tunnel .

>>59921972
Putting any kind of pressure on your wrists is bad. If you do have one atleast use at as palm support. The ideal typing form is to have your hands hover over your keyboard.

How long can I expect my ducky one tkl to last?
I am wondering if it's worth investing in some fancy keycaps.

>>59920880
It's not OEM profile at all, and it's dyesub PBT. What else would you expect?

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Another day, another /mkg/ thread. Have you found the endgame yet this Easter /mkg/?

>>59922268
The caps can be transferred to other keyboards, you know.

>>59922288
Already did. Silenced buckling springs are super comfy to type on.

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Currently working on bolt mod for my model M but looks like the membrane is going to have to be replaced. Anyone know what to put in here for the membrane? It is Model M 1391401.

>>59922333
You put in 1391401...

>>59922333
Ask Unicomp, or is their support line slow?

>>59922347
No their support is pretty good actually. I will probably do that.

>>59922395
You're wasting your own time, I have done the exact same thing before. Write 1391401 in the box.

>>59922415
ok ill do that. thanks

>>59922279
>It's not OEM profile at all, and it's dyesub PBT. What else would you expect?
wtf do you think it is? of course it's OEM.

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Just bought this, it's my first mechanical keyboard.

Roast me, /mkg/

>>59922644
Do you even know what OEM profile is? This is custom profile thats based on the old IBM beamspring keyboards.

>>59923063
Its a solid 8/10 keyboard

>>59921769
There should be no difference other than the size / layout.

Both are designed in SK by Leopold, manufactured in China and inspected in Japan by Topre.

Hey all, I'm in search of my first mechanical keyboard

>Budget
Around $200 tops

>Location (continent at least)
Australia

>Preferred switch type
Cherry MX Blue seems alright

>Layout
ANSI

>Form factor
100%. I like the look of the 60% but surely need a numpad.

>Backlight
Don't mind them. Nothing too crazy

>Previous/current keyboards
$4 Scissor switch keyboard. Fantastic and lasted a few years but recently died. Picked up some HP membrane thing but I'm not too fond of it.

I'm just after a nice clean mechanical keyboard without any outrageous fonts or designs. The Ducky One looks pretty neat; it's got all the keys I need, minimalist design, and the LEDs are a bonus.

I really like the compact look of the 60% and less keyboards, and the very small / lack of bezel so you can see under the keys.

Any help much appreciated. Cheers.

>>59923063
>not 68% or less
shit
buy tada

>>59923063
>first mechanical keyboard
>not gaymen shit
That's a fuck up a lot of people make. Should last you a long while. MechanicalKeybards has fast shipping also.

>>59923071
that's near-identical to OEM profile. it will be shit to type on.

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>>59923336
Is this a bit?

>>59923308
Nice. I was confused about what switches to get but I feel like browns were the best compromise. I'm not much of a gamer, and I'm not writing novels. I wanted a tactile feel without the clickity clackity.

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>>59923063
Excellent choice, anon. TKL for space but not useless 60%.

Thumbs up dude, that's probably the choice I'd make today. In fact I think that's just what I'm going to buy.

>>59923389
They aren't silent just so you know.

>>59923288
>surely need a numpad
no numpad. are you a fucking assistant?

>>59920894
WASD CODE
Also, keyboards with RGB should allow you to set the backlighting to white.

Thinking about getting a Glock, I want to cc it so I'd prefer it to be compact/smaller. Recommendations?

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>>59920677
This
>>59920721

>>59923063
>brown
disgusting, enjoy your dirty reds

>>59923731
>>>/k/
Get the 17

>>59923731
Glock 19, definitely. Small enough to conceal with relative ease, large enough to grip with confidence. Plus you can use Glock 17 mags as well if you find them on sale.

>>59923731
43
pocket carry it

>>59924018
kek

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I wanna design my own keycaps. See a lot of them on Massdrop and most look like total shit. I can do better. I have some cool ideas that I tested out on a few keyboards that I assembled from parts.

Anyone have some advice on how to go about it? This is probably a money losing endeavor but I'll be happy if I break even and don't lose much. I already wasted too much time as it is so it can't be much worse.

HALP!

>>59924488
>I'll be happy if I break even
Lol keep dreaming. Well you aren't the first person who wants to attempt such a task. Matt3o has created his own hi-pro keycaps so just read about how he did it. If you have any questions just ask him.

>>59924488
what new thing will you be adding to the "keyboard market"? from that picture it looks like you're designing a new keyboard profile? It's not impossible obviously as >>59924624 said.

but it'll be hard to be successful if you don't create something for which the "market" feels a real need. recently there's been new profile popping up like XDA and other spherical SP-like keycaps. and those things are fairly successful because many people want an alternative to Signature Plastics, whose keycaps are thin and can be extremely expensive.

on the other hand if you are creating a cherry or OEM-like profile I think you'll have a hard time because people are already very happy with GMK ABS and PBT cherry profile keycaps. I can only see you being successful if you find a way to make them cheap.

>most look like total shit
I don't know what you mean by this. If you mean the candy-coloured eyesores like Miami maybe all you care about is the colour? in the case you can just run a group buy for your own colourway. that's completely doable and it's how most popular keycap sets get produced.

>200$
>Europe
>gateron reds
>ansi
>60% with arrow keys like fc660c
>no
>logitech g610 with browns (feels like shit)

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>spend $99 on unicomp ultra classic from massdrop
>mfw unbox it and 15 keys dont work

>>59924798
not bolted on gateron .. anything linear goes

>>59924798
magicforce 68 from taobao/aliexpress

>>59924798
Fc660m

>>59924845
>Serves him right, he trusted the MassJew

>>59925078
massdrop usually has done good by me, excluding the ridiculous shipping times. the flashlight one they had was amazing i love that thing

>>59924905
i thought gaterons were better than cherrys is this true ?

>>59921081
Is it just me or do these caps only really look good in natural lighting? They seem to get really dull to look at when it's a little dim and you're using light bulbs.

>>59925574
As far as I can see, Gateron are probably of equal quality, but they have way worse QC.

>>59924624
the deskthority thread he started for the capset that drops tomorrow is like 2 years old

>>59914382
buying things isnt a hobby

Who else has a Realforce RGB?

>>59920521
https://en.zfrontier.com/products/es-lingua-franca
but
>Estimated ship date: Jun 8th, 2017

>>59923063
With this keyboard, I'll be able to pull the keys off and put new ones on, right? All the keys are standard?

>>59926531
yes

>>59925574
fuck man all the switches are the same, just different colours

>>59926280
what am I supposed to do with my moneys then?

Is there a tier list for switches? I know Cherry are reasonably well regarded and Topre are lauded but don't know how the cheaper kailh/gateron/outemu switches stack up.

>>59924794
>the "keyboard market"? from that picture it looks like you're designing a new keyboard profile? It's not impossible obviously as >>59924624 said.
Yes! It's definitely a new profile because I'm unsatisfied with many of the current ones. It's also close to a profile of an older keyset from 1980s that I'm really fond of. I've showed the prototype to two people I know and they tried it and liked it a lot. They weren't bullshitting me either because they were not my friends and just enthusiasts I met on twitter that lived closed to me.


>and those things are fairly successful because many people want an alternative to Signature Plastics, whose keycaps are thin and can be extremely expensive.
Right. I understand where these people are coming from. I like these newer caps myself. I don't get why there's so much hate for SP though. SP can make thicker keys but at and increased price. Since they're based in the US, prices is already 2x higher than chinese clones.

I wouldn't mind letting SP make my caps at all.

>on the other hand if you are creating a cherry or OEM-like profile I think you'll have a hard time because people are already very happy with GMK ABS and PBT cherry profile keycaps. I can only see you being successful if you find a way to make them cheap.
Definitely not. I got rid of my OEM set long time ago because I couldn't stand the angle of R4. I's also fond of ErgoDox so I made caps that work well with it as well. But yeah, OEM/Cherry space is too crowded to be successful.

>I don't know what you mean by this. If you mean the candy-coloured eyesores like Miami maybe all you care about is the colour? in the case you can just run a group buy for your own colourway. that's completely doable and it's how most popular keycap sets get produced.
Yes, most of the caps on Mass are gaudy. I used a neutral color scheme with only few accented colors. You can actually use these caps in an office and people won't look at it and make assumptions about you.

>>59924488
>>59927081
Have fun spending tens of thousands to get done right and no one buying it.

Also not sure you how you could have spent more than like 4 hours on designing keycaps. Unless you got some full retard convex/concave bullshit going on.

>>59927163
>Have fun spending tens of thousands to get done right and no one buying it.
you must be fun at the parties./// oh wait, what parties!?

>Also not sure you how you could have spent more than like 4 hours on designing keycaps. Unless you got some full retard convex/concave bullshit going on.
stay stupid.

>>59927173
>stay stupid
I'm serious retard. Take very little time to make a simple shape like a keycap.

>>59927201
make one then. let's see it if it's that easy.

>>59927081
It sounds like you have put a lot of thought into this. I don't have very much advice other than to be prepared for failure. Most group-buys do fail. That said, I don't think it's impossible.

Since it's going to be something new, maybe you could look into partnering with an established vendor once you have better prototypes. keyclack or originative maybe... I don't know how much /mkg/ hates them but that way, you're more likely to get buyers.

you haven't detailed very much about the actual design, which I understand because it's in progress. But you should definitely show people as you're designing it, maybe in the later stages, to get more feedback. the IC stage is very important for the group buy.

>I wouldn't mind letting SP make my caps at all.
Speaking of SP, new tooling is expensive... 7bit spent a lot of money just to get SP to fix their Backspace molds to change it from "back space" to "backspace". And that was just for one key. SP keycaps are expensive but their molds are already made. New keycaps are going to be more expensive than that. So I'm not sure what you're planning as far as legends go, but I think you should just release blanks first since it's a new profile. It'll make them a lot cheaper since you won't have to pay for doubleshotting/dye-subbing.

talking to people who have already done this kind of thing is probably more helpful than shitposters on /mkg/ as well.

you should be apprehensive about success, but I do think you should keep going with it.

>>59927263
>make something I have no interest in
How about no, kid?

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Are there any full size keyboards which have no bezel or are as compact as the one in the photo?

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>>59927723
yes, kinda
Its a massdrop exclusive tho

happy hacking type s or normal?

>>59924488
>>59924624
>>59924794
Not him, but is there a chinese contact I can get in touch with to have some aluminum keycaps cnc machined? I wanna have some cute weeb keycaps made for myself, but I don't wanna pay local shops.

>>59927351
>7bit spent a lot of money just to get SP to fix their Backspace molds to change it from "back space" to "backspace".
Don't forget how long it took to get SA R4 shifts.

How is the drevo mechanical keyboard?

I'm tired of typing on my old microshit keyboard, it's painful and slow.

What should I be looking for?

Don't care about gaymen and leds and that sort of stuff. It just needs to be comfy to type a lot of papers. Also tenkeyless

>>59918024

thinking of making this my first keycap swap... you reckon it'll look/feel nice on a ducky zero back-lit? (back-light is orange but was going to turn it off)

also, will they sell out fast?

>>59928248
>also, will they sell out fast?
Just to be sure - you know Massdrop isn't a simple storefront, right? That this is a group buy?

>>59928248
Its a group buy, so that means the more that is bought, the cheaper it will become. If its popular they usually sell around 5000 units.

Anybody have any good plate mounted keyboards with a numpad attached?

Been looking for ages.

>>59928290
>>59928319

ahh so that's how it works... yeah was just a bit worried from the massdrop popularity but now I guess that's a good thing

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I tried to deal with it but I can't overlook it anymore. This Topre rf 55g has fucked up keys and since I bought it in Japan it's going to be annoying to make use of the warranty.

>>59928849
It couldn't be that a variable weight one was put in a 55g box or something, right?

>>59928875
It's not, I've tried those ones myself. My board has about four keys that feel quite different while the rest are somewhat uniform. Still minor differences.

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Can somebody please explain what was going on here when they made that number 4 key?

>>59930277
I cant unsee it

I have a old cheap keyboard (7 years) and the keys are slippery. Should I wash them or buy new keycaps?

>>59928370
What's your budget? Filco Magestouch is pretty good, but pretty pricey.

>>59930546
jizz on them, fixes them right up

>>59930277

urgh this grinds my gears

>>59928370
Other then cherry shit are there even any PCB mount keyboards made today. Even chink shit is plate mount now days.

Recently got a coolermaster masterkeys s with browns and got my gf an azio mkg-1 with khalil blues. we love them, fuck yea mechanical keyboards!

>>59914921
it's not that the battery is not enough, but that the pocket is hardwired to only provide backlight when plugged in with microusb. just add in a slim battery and velcro it on the back in you need it that much

>>59927351
>That said, I don't think it's impossible.
I might give it a try but need to work out few things in advance.

I feel like caps are like 80% done. There's still room for improvement and still some things that need to be tweaked. Then there's an issue with properly preparing them for mold injection and shrinkage etc. As for molds, I think I'd have to have those made since the caps are not standard type caps. This would be a LOT cheaper in China.

Now, here's few of my options:

1) Get a group buy going on Massdrop (how to do that I don't know right now) and then pay for molds etc from that pot.
2) Kickstarter or Indiegogo. Not sure if anyone has attempted that one. Again, same thing as Massdrop: collect initial funds and pay for molds from that.
3) Contact SP and other companies to see if they'd buy the design. I'd wager this is a low-probability option.

Not sure what the best way to proceed would be. Thoughts?

>you should be apprehensive about success, but I do think you should keep going with it.
Thanks anon! You know, as I mentioned, this is not going to be a very profitable endeavor (I know I'll lose due to opportunity cost since my time is not free) but I'd like to see them made because I'd like to use a set of them since 3D printed ones work so well for me. I'd love to see them made in PBT.

Like I said, I have an angle for marketing this thing and it would excite a bunch of people. I mean, I'm not marketing just a color or some sublimated design of some cap. I think it has a good chance of selling.

>>59930277
They really wanted to emphasize shekels

>>59930277
shekels above all else.

>>59930277
>we need the jewish audience

>>59930693
How is your profile actually different than Cherry or OEM? Is it cylindrical or spherical? I ask because I doubt there will be interest if the difference is not significant enough for the wider base.

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How do Deck keyboards stack up. Seems like a good price for a thin bezel tkl

>>59924488
is that image related to your keycap design? if so, its the same as most OEM profiles

>>59930693
the biggest problem i can see with your plan 1 and 2 is that you're paying for the molds after you get the money. i'm not sure if people will be willing to pay without seeing the product/samples first, unless you already have a reputation like that matt3o and his hi-pro keycaps. even if you have 3d printed samples. is working solo something you are adamant about? it's understandable if that's the case, but working with someone who has a reputation will definitely help, if you're okay with doing that.
plan 2 doesn't sound very good to me because keyboard stuff usually doesn't get sold there...

>I have an angle for marketing this thing and it would excite a bunch of people
I sincerely hope this is true, because
>I'm not marketing just a color or some sublimated design of some cap
unfortunately those have a higher chance of success because people know what to expect for those. usually people don't want to buy something new or different because every purchase is a gamble and they want to play it safe.

I want silver switches and TKL.

Do I get the CM Masterkeys S, or a Corsair K65?

What is the better brand?

>>59932221
CoolerMaster

Corsair are trash, low quality construction, shitty keycaps and non-standard bottom row preventing you from replacing them all except with low quality chinkshit.

>>59932749

I thought so.

MasterKeys is in the way should be here next week.

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>assdrop

>>59914486
My microswitch array suspended in the air by fishing wire. I wanted them to be as light as possible and almost invisibly supported.

>look at my split 30% keyboard you can only use when you remember 15 fn-layers!11!!1
Meanwhile in the Chinkpad thread
>m-muh F-keys
>m-muh numpad
>m-muh nonstandard arrow cluster
>m-muh function island

what the fuck /g/

>>59934055
what are you trying to say

>>59934068
why complain about laptop layouts when you're gonna use a butchered mechanical keyboard with it anyway

>>59934080
>implying same people

>>59934009
now, kits and prices are shown.
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-matt3o-devtty-custom-keycap-set

>>59934140
Oh cool, colour

It's not just another boring grey on grey set

>>59914687
>They have the heaviest bottom out force out of Cherry's switches
No, greys do.

>>59914533
Cherries have a smoother tactile feel than other mech keys, so the higher force doesn't feel as nasty as say a gateron brown or green, let alone the straight up finger snappers that are greetechs.

Tonnes of cheap brands use gateron, but about the only brand that uses greetech is das keyboards, afaik.

>>59934234
Don't Greetech do weird shit too, like I remember seeing people say gree browns have two tactile bumps instead of just one

>>59934250
https://input.club/the-comparative-guide-to-mechanical-switches/tactile/greetech-brown/

Ahaha, what the fuck is this shit

>>59923288
https://mechkb.com/catalogsearch/advanced/result/?switchtype%5B%5D=78&keycaptype=

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>First mechanical keyboard was sold a long time ago.
>Das 4.
>Pretty good, served me well.
>Discover 60% keyboards and these threads.
>Want to get into it.
>The community is comparatively respectful and helpful compared to every other 4chan community.

There's deep, dark autism lurking here, and i will not lower my guard.

>>59927723
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Plum-108-electrostatic-capacitive-pro-mechanical-keyboard-topre-clone-switches-gaming-keyboard-black-side-print-87/32790944575.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.28.seYxwz&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_2_10065_10130_10068_10136_10137_10138_10060_10131_10132_10062_10133_10141_10056_126_10055_10054_10059_10099_10103_10102_10096_10148_10052_10053_10050_10107_10142_10051_10143_10084_10083_10119_10080_10082_10081_10110_10111_10112_10113_10114_10032_10078_10079_10077_10073_10070_10123_10120_10124-10120_10077,searchweb201603_6,afswitch_1_afChannel,ppcSwitch_3,single_sort_0_default&btsid=304dc6fa-0344-4690-86d9-abd82cc92f3d&algo_expid=8968fa64-284a-49d7-b707-4f0c4c8850d6-3&algo_pvid=8968fa64-284a-49d7-b707-4f0c4c8850d6

https://www.pcgamingrace.com/products/glorious-modular-rgb-mechanical-gaming-keyboard-barebones

First is capacitive 30g switches with side printing. Has MX stems with topre outer for use with either keycap.

Second is full form factor modular that uses plate mounted switches of any manufacturer and can be ordered with or without cherry stem keycaps. Also doesn't have labels on the modifier LED's. Mechanicalkeyboards.com sells switches in packs of ten, but the gaterons from glorious are actually pretty damn competitively priced at 30 USD for 120 of them.

I bought one of the black 108 capacitive boards and a set of g20 blank black keycaps from pimpmykeyboard. Keyboard is arriving tomorrow, not long on the keycaps either.

>>59934291
Kind of defeats the purpose of not having a click if you're more likely to bottom out. Would definitely want o-rings with those.

Have had my Steelsseriess 6gv2 with cherry switches for over 5 years now, but i recently baught an corsair strafe keyboard with blue switches.
well used it for like a month, and now i miss my old keyboard.
the 6gv2 does not feel cheep as the corsair and it is built like an tank as well.
*sorry for bet english*

>>59934664
Cool blog post.

>>>/reddit/

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>KBParadise V60 with RGB underglow
thought?

>>59935136
Those keycaps are nasty. I know you could easily change them, but they really are ugly.

I just bought G610 Orion brown for 50€. Did I dun goofed?

>>59935838
No

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>>59935838
yes

>>59935838
maybe

>>59934009
so what are you guys thinking?
triumph or beige mods?
im feeling triumph because i already have like 3 beige sets of keycaps

>>59936220
>>59936152
>>59935876
My old K200 logitech barely works anymore. I wanted to try mechanical keyboard, but I didn't want to buy some keyboard that looks like autistic disco device

reminder browns are the most awful switch and blue is the best

>>59936433
I used to think the brown hate was overblown

Then I actually used them and they literally feel like faulty linears
So called "tactile bump" is completely imperceptible unless you go as slowly and gently as possible

How does anyone like this?

>>59936433
>blue
that's not how you spell clear

>>59936464
not even stock clears are a good switch
clears + 62g springs is where is at

>>59936536
>good
*good cherry

>>59936536
stock clears are fine
pulling apart switches to put in 62g springs is fucking miserable and i don't want to do that again
not like i felt much of a difference

>>59936462
browns and romerg feels like membrane

>>59934009
I'll probably jump on this, finally submitting to a MD group buy.. May as well go all in and pick up a good variety of sets.

>>59936624
it's pretty easy and the diference is huge if you don't smash the keys while writting
but i guess it's a matter of preference

so apparently I accidentally bought a "Tada68 Mechanical keyboard gateron swtich" online awhile ago while shopping drunk.
I don't know shit about keyboards, is this good?
It's apparently awaiting pickup so I have to go get it tomorrow.

>>59936739
Yeh, depends which switch really but you can't do wrong with a TADA desu

>>59936739
It's good

>>59936341
If I get some I'm probably going to go with Triumph.

>>59936462
Real answer? They've probably only tried reds, brows, and blues, and believe the classic marketing of browns being the "in-between" switch.

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>>59936724
yeah ok, autismo

thinking of buying a 200 pack of matias quiet clicks (dampened tactile) and a 200 of matias clicks and then swapping the click plates into the dampened tactiles

>>59936640
they don't
they actually feel worse than most membranes I've had
it is a gross ass red

>tfw bought Masterkey Lite L
>mem-chanical keyboard feels spongy and bouncy
>mouse is amazing
Was it worth it for 50€?
I live in Portugal and I can't find any cheap nice keyboard with Portuguese layout

>>59936929
stop posting that catgirl (male)

>>59936739
its great, i got a gate version and its sweet
got my layouts all set up and its super fun to use

>>59936907
browns are the worst off already

>>59936967
Why don't you just mod the click plates of the QCs? Do you just hate upstroke noise that much?

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>>59936989
what are you gay

>>59936462
I found it so extremely underwhelming that I went through the trouble of desoldering the browns off my goldtouch keypad for gat yellows (red/black inbetween)

>>59936967
Surely it'd be easier to buy genuine Alps switches?

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oh shit waddup
this beauty was hanging in the corner of the lab i work in. the plebs that work here don't know comfyness when they see one...

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Just bought some Nordic ISO Dolch clones up on AliExpress for $38. Allready bought some blanks and the quality was questionable, but this set is less than a Norde kit for any other kit is.

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How did the /tilted spacebar/ meme got started?

>>59938052
reddit

>>59938052
People resting their wrists on the desk instead of floating them like you're supposed to.

So while RGB is a total meme and my corsair k70 with browns has been my beautiful keyboard for about 3 years now.

It's been working quite well and i've had no real issues with it but slowly i've been wanting to get something newer.

>RGB meme
>comfy
>non-mushy switches
>$150
>Numpad included

My k70 is going to come to my job because i'm sick of the chiclet keyboard i've been using there and these brown switches are quiet enough no one will complain. (Another guy brought in mx blue last week and no one cares)

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>>59938287
>>RGB meme
>>comfy
Pick one

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>>59938287

>beautiful keyboard

>no one cares

>>59914759
Do mechanical keyboards really affect typing speed? I type 145 on average on a regular keyboard or any laptop

>>59938392
My k70 has been pretty comfy to me. Razrrrr seems too "gamer" designed by for my tastes and their products do not have a long lifetime i've read.

I don't know much about mechs in the non-mainstream company field.

>>59938409
>>59938392
Also might help if I wasn't phone posting the first one.

>Budget
150 USD
>Location (continent at least)
Georgia USA
>Preferred switch type
Brown or Blue or sub variation of those
>Layout
Qwerty? With numpad
>Form factor
100%
>Backlight
RGB
>Previous/current keyboards
k70 vengeance

>>59938414
>Razrrrr seems too "gamer" designed
yet you bought a gaymer keyboard

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>>59938473
I'd say it's fairly clean for a gaymer keyboard then.

While I don't often use the lights because I use a lamp at night I am autistic enough to have a color themed computer.

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>>59938287
Any ducky or filco will do. CM masterkeys rgb maybe. Get blues or greens if you're getting cherry switches. Browns are cancer.

>>59938414
Nope. It just feels and sounds better.

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>>59938467
I would have said the shine 5, but it seems to have been discontinued. The shine 6 is way to gamery and looks hideous. I'd say get the cooler master pro l
https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-MasterKeys-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B01D3BDN60/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1492450758&sr=8-4&keywords=cooler+master+pro

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New abortion from Masshit. Shitty height, shitty cap shape, shitty colors, awful pricing scheme... and it ships at the end of October.

What's interesting is that they didn't even send an email blast about it.

>>59938571
whats wrong with white and beige. That's about as standard as you'd get, unless you want those good awful cotton candy colors. Also is this the first time you've heard of massdrop, cause that pricing scheme and ship date is how every custom keycap set drops

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Favorite mouse to compliment your keyboards?

I use this cheap microsoft apple mouse clone because it is quite comfortable for work and just browsing the internet.

>>59938610
I'm still rocking my g402

>>59938571
>>59938607
1274 PURCHASED

>>59938607
>whats wrong with white and beige
Just about 50% of keyboards made are made in those colors. It's fucking boring.

You can buy a WHOLE brand-new keyboard (with nicer caps mind you) for the price they're charging for. Ridiculous.

And when's the last time you wanted to type of a typewriter keyboard? Never.

FUcking hipsters man...

>>59938624
Lots of idiots. They'll need double that to break even.

>>59938624
thats nothing. Mito custom XDA sold close to 6000 units, and since this is a new custom profile I wouldn't be surprised if it sold closer to 10000

>>59938663
>You can buy a WHOLE brand-new keyboard (with nicer caps mind you) for the price they're charging for. Ridiculous.
So you really are new to this. You haven't seen some of the SP sets that sell close to $200 for some shitty double shot ABS.
This set is actually reasonably priced compared to the others, and while high profile isn't right for me, this is one of the cheaper ones. Even the chink max key ones sell at the $100 price point

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>>59938663
>And when's the last time you wanted to type of a typewriter keyboard? Never.
Have you heard of datamancer?

Just one question: how the fuck do you use the F-keys in a keyboard without F-keys?

Like, F1 to F12. I've seen many mech-kbs in these threads without these.

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>>59938663
Could you link me to a keyboard with nicer caps for the same price they are charging? Thick PBT dye-sub is expensive and even the chinks charge like $70 bucks for a set. Not only that but this is a high profile set.

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>>59938841
I don't see how dye sub is worth if thicc pbt dye sub is 100 when thicc pbt laser etched like mine is only 30

>>59938935
dye-sub is the most expensive form of printing as it involves burning the dye into the keycap becoming a permanent part of it. That means that the dye must be a darker color then the plastic it is being burned into, which is why a lot of these sets are beige. The advantage this gives is that the durability is unmatched, but it has its limitations. The new profile also means that its gonna cost more then OEM since custom molds aren't cheap.
Side note your keycaps are ugly. Why do people buy that hideous memeami shit.

>>59939015
I wasn't the anon bashing beige and cotton candy / Miami is my favorite color combo.

>>59939015
>the most expensive form of printing
Wouldn't that be double-shot?

>>59938793
Function layers.

>>59938681
True.
>>59938663
Canvas XDA is a really nice set, shame i missed it.

>>59939153
Doubleshot isn't a form of printing, it's a method of creating keycaps

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endgame

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>>59938717
>So you really are new to this.
So you are really retarded and have no fucking arguments.

>>59938841
There's a whole bunch that are out of stock.
Cap profile is garbage though. And that matters more than a fucking thickness of plastic.

Retards who harp about thickness of plastic are the fucking worst. You'll NEVER wear it out. You won't even feel the thickness! Paying double for thicker caps is retarded.

>>59939225
That was a nice set. At least it wasn't as boring as this one.

>>59938750
What's your point? Do you know how many people use that shit daily? It's a fucking novelty keycap set! It feels like shit and just makes you look retarded when someone sees you using is. It's even worse hypsterism than pic related.

>>59930609
About 100-150 dollars.

>>59939497
WHAT in the FUCK am I seeing?

>>59938571
They did send an email like one week ago

>>59939293
It's a method of creating legends. The purpose is the same.

>>59939533
physical keyboard for tablets

>>59939533
>WHAT in the FUCK am I seeing?
Old typewriter modded so it uses conductive fabric pads to type on an iPad. Quite a few of them are around. Watch one in action.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWqqtybjzXE

>>59939681
It's a method of creating the keycaps, not creating legends... The added benefit is that you get the legend with it.

>>59939497
>So you are really retarded and have no fucking arguments.
Calm down dude. You clearly are new to this. If you really want to get mad I'd recommend you go over the a fun little community called geekhack. If you really want to see stuff that will make your blood boil I'd say you should pay them a visit. These guys are the epitome of hipsters.

>>59939915
In this context you see double-shotting being used specifically to create more durable legends than other methods. The way you put it, you make it seem like the legends are a mere secondary bonus.

>>59940119
They create the key cap with two different plastics therefore it's a method of creating a keycap. It's not like they create a perfect keycap and add a legend to it. The legend itself is part of the keycap.

>>59940142
>It's not like they create a perfect keycap and add a legend to it. The legend itself is part of the keycap.
And? What does it matter? Why make the distinction between methods that transfer a legend to a moulded keycap and double-shot?

>>59940201
not him, but injecting and printing are two different things

>>59940257
I understand the process is different, obviously. I'm asking why it matters. The original statement is that it's "the most expensive form of printing", and so I'm trying to figure out why there is an exclusion of the arguably better process.

>>59940298
In both methods the legends are permanent and won't wear off. Dye-sub is much more prone to errors and requires more expensive machinery. I really don't see what exclusion you guys are talking about.

>>59940044
>You clearly are new to this.
No i'm not. And don't expect people to reply to your condescending bullshit.

>>59940383
Yes you are. You're the one getting worked up over keycaps lol. I've seen much worse then that massdrop set, and I stopped caring as a result.

Best mech keyboard with blue or good knock off blue switches for under $170

I'll also probably get a custom colored keycap set for it. What should I do for that?

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>>59940510
tada68, and don't bother with custom colored keycaps since they are all shit

>>59940530
I'll look into tada. Why are custom colored keycaps bad? Because they wear off easily like in that pic?

Maybe i'll just use my older logitech keycaps I have for mx red switches. They show no wear and are comfy to type with.

>>59940574
Ignore that retard. He did post some garbage colored keycaps, but it doesn't mean that all of them are. That just looks like some shit coating, similar to some Tai-Hao ones. Look at MechanicalKeyboards and Massdrop if you want good keycaps, and check AliExpress if you want some decent cheap ones. You can get nice colored PBT ones from chinks for like $30.

>>59940201
Because doubleshot is not a legend creation method, it is a KEY CAP creation method that gives a legend as well. Are you retarded? You're not going to create a key cap with the legend missing because the key cap would not be complete, the different coloured plastic completes the key cap and fills in the legend. It IS a method of creating a complete cap.

>>59940783
>Because doubleshot is not a legend creation method
Keycap manufacturers make double-shot keycaps specifically because of the legends the process creates. Do you deny this?

>>59940574
>Maybe i'll just use my older logitech keycaps
Pretty sure logitech uses a non standard layout and nonstandard stabilizer placement, You can use some, but not all. Also the Tada68 comes with EnjoyPBT keycaps as standard. Anything else would be a downgrade

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>>59940574
just get npkc blanks

>>59923404
fuck off

>>59941100
why u so mad

>>59923063
>>59923404
>>59923761
Why are people buying this garbage switch. It's worse than rubber domes and scissor switches. It has to be placebo or some shit.

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>>59941185
>It's worse than rubber domes
It really isn't at all. Have you used a brown switch for any length of time?

Setting clicky aside, there is only a small difference in the feel between blue and brown but not enough to put it in shitter dome or scissor territory. Since blues are accepted, why wouldn't browns be? Sounds like you're memin' m89.

Browns aren't for every purpose I admit, but I don't think you could argue that they are shit, considering they are the second best selling Cherry MX switch type.

>>59914654
did that ever get anywhere or has it burned down

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>>59941248
I've owned several boards with browns. First one i tought was just bad luck. Inconsistent switches, skratchy and all around unpleasant. I understand that people see them as some kind of hybrid between a red and a blue, and to some extent they are right, but it just has all the worst traits of both reds and blues.

>>59941248
fuck off

>>59941144
buttmad janitor is mad.

>>59940877
>keycap makers

Well there you go, you said it.

>>59942061
Of course double-shotting is part of the manufacturing process. Can you answer my question?

>>59941372
So what color do you prefer, anon?

>>59942103
Yes the manufacturing process of making a key cap, not a legend. The legend IS part of the keycap therefore doubleshot is a form of keycap creation, not legend creation.

>>59942132
You didn't answer my question.

>>59942156
Read my replies you fucking dipshit. You're wrong.

>>59942177
So the answer to my question is "no"? Alright, good to know.

Yeah, I'm going to wait for different colour schemes in the recreated beamspring profile. Neither of them excite me terribly, and I have round 6 on the way (not that it hasn't been "on the way" for the past two years, mind).

>>59942198
You are extremely childish, too young for this board I reckon.

Whether or not doubleshot was used to make the 'printing' more durable is entirely irrelevant. The act of doubleshotting is a process in the creation of the keycap NOT a process of legend creation like Dye Sub or Laser etching is.

For them keycaps the keys are made blank then the legends are put on. in Doubleshot the legends ARE the keycap therefore doubleshotting is a method of keycap creation and NOT legend creation because it is part of the key itself.

>>59942228
You've repeated this quite a number of times, and at this point I understand what you're saying. It's just a misinformed perspective is all.

>>59942250
What I'm saying is entirely correct...Doubleshotting dates back to the 70's where I seriously doubt they expected people to use them keys for a life time. They've just always been higher quality and the tooling is much less advanced than dye sub

This is the most pedantic argument I've seen in years, good job.

>>59938392
shit lad that looks so good pls teach me

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Just bought this, it's my first mechanical keyboard.

Roast me, /mkg/

>>59942951
>he bought a $220 rubberdome

>>59942951
Every key but Fn is aligned to the left

>>59942951
buy TMK FC660C Alt Controller

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>>59942880
Korean Keyboards are pretty comfy

Looking for my first mechanical

>Budget
150 USD
>Location (continent at least)
Texas USA
>Preferred switch type
Blue
>Layout
qwerty?
>Form factor
60%
>Backlight
Yes
>Previous/current keyboards
Corsair K40

>>59943189
so where can i buy one?

>>59943268
mechanicalkeyboards.com has a few Leopolds

>>59943227
You can pick a Pok3r RGB for about $140. Or $80 for the Anne Pro which is similar.

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I have an old ~2012 Rosewill RK-9000 RE. When I trie ot plug it in it would recognize that it was plugged in, but it did not work.

Knowing that these have a history of the USB coming off, I opened it up, found that it didn't look like the USB came off at all, but did notice pic related, which is the back side of the USB connector. Could that be my issue and how would I fix it?

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>>59943374
jesus that looks terrible

clean it and remove the solder, then solder the pins on properly so they don't touch each other

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>>59943785
Thanks for the reply and suggestion.

Are you thinking just the cluster of five, or the two large ones?

There are also three or so pairs that are underneath the controller here, that also look a little dirty. Are those worth re-soldering as well?

This thing has been in a box almost all the the time since 2012. I'm sad that it's broken now that I finally can use it.

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>>59943832
you could clean those controller pins, but they look fine otherwise. Just resolder the usb port.

>>59936987
Considering the mouse is 30 I don't think so.

>>59944337
What do I use to clean it anyway?

>>59942110
Currently using a silenced novatouch. Greens and vintage blacks are pretty comfy too.

>>59944337
Is it possible to actually use those keys for hiragana or would you have to switch your input to japanese or something?

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>>59944743
isopropyl alcohol

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>>59944765
You'd have to use an IME like you normally do for typing in Japanese

>>59944776
Awesome, just cleaning those pins made it start working again.

>>59944875
And now that I've got the case back on it doesn't work again. What the hell.