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http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-rx-580-570-560-550-specs-gaming-benchmarks-official-leak/

>amd official benchmark
>compare 580 with the r9 380, 370, gtx 970 and igpu
>it's just factory oc 400 rebrands
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>>59888715
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>>59888715
1.6X faster than 380X, what a beast, it's literally 608X faster
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>>59888715
>still cant beat a 290x
lmao holy fuck
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>>59888715
What does the 500 series have to do with Vega? You realise that those are going to be named parts like the Fury lineup, yes? We've known for fucking months that the 500 cards were just going to be rebrands. Why are you just finding out about it now? Did somebody post it on /v/ and you came to tell us?
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>>59889320
vega should have been out a year earlier
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>nvidia doesnt rebrand
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>>59888715
how much faster is it compared to the radeon 8500?
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>>59889355
well, they haven't in 3 years now

most kids talking about GPUs bought their first one with a 970. These kids are juniors in college now
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>Tfw my r9 fury is still on of their most powerful cards
>Tfw they still haven't bested a 3 year old card
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>>59889349
Why?
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>>59889415
>design completely new architecture
>it's worse performing than your last two architectures

is Polaris the biggest GPU disappointment in history?
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Why are they doing this? Where is Vega?
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>>59889317
>Hawaii is basically finewine now even with new cards coming out
Tastes good
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Why are 390X's so rare? Did they not sell well or what?
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>buy second hand 290X as upgrade
>reference cooler is even loader than the roumours
>mod an old 7950 cooler to fit
>runs well for two days
>suddenly dies and PC wont boot at all with card installed
>it appears I missed one mosfet heasink
>it's now black instead of white
How fucked am I?
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>>59889458
no they did not

at they time they were competing with the 980 which beat it in performance and tied it in price. This was also when the 970 became the marketed meme card so all nvidia products skyrocketed in popularity

it's pretty tragic since AMD actually won the previous generation; the 7970 blew the 680 out of the fucking water and the 700 series nvidia rebrands were disappointing as fuck, meanwhile AMD brought out the big guns with the 290/x which is still their top performing mid range card to this day

AMD has had nothing but lame rebrands and two disappointing architctectures since then while nvidia has had their actually good maxwell and pascal cards step up the game to the point where they're so far ahead of AMD it's a joke

>>59889561
you're really fucked. Should have bought an aftermarket cooler that actually fits the thing
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>>59889577
So there's no way I can just bypass that mosfet, cut it out or maybe even fluke ordering and soldering a replacement?
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>>59889594
any money spent on fixing that would be better spent on a new GPU that you won't break from being a retard
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>>59889561
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/371948-33-resolved-fixing-dead-video-card
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>>59889458
At the time it released in summer nvidia was promoting the witcher and batman bundle with gtx 970/980s while And had dirt rally or nothing
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>>59889561
>loader than the roumours
What the fuck are you doing?
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>>59889357
around 100x, unless you are still playing very old games, but then you don't care, right?
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I understand that there can be Intel fans, but Nvidia fans? Come on.
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>>59889355
>muh gtx680 to gtx770
At least that was not all the lineup
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>>59889435
dear underage shitposter, quality of architecture does not depend on performance comparison with particular SKUs
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This is not Vega you nvidiot doofus. They just want something to launch along with Vega, so that the lineup doesn't feel incomplete.
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>>59888715
The 290x is the best AMD GPU ever made. 2700k tier desu.
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>>59889654
399x and 390 plain
The 290 and 290x had dirt rally so people bought those
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>>59889732
>impying OP said that

WAIT VEGA (tm)
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>>59889661
Sorry, *louder than the rumours.
Tired,
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>>59889732

W A I T
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Can't wait for Vega to come out and stay below a 1070 and bloated with issues that the pajeets are gonna address by telling people to just wait for drivers.
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>>59889686
Nvidia has fans because their products actually improve significantly regardless of how you feel about their business practices. Intel on the other hand has almost entirely abandoned the desktop and releases new SKU's with no noticeable improvements while locking features behind paywalls.
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>rx570 vs 370
>not even rx470

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>59889840
This,

Fury 2.0
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>>59889840
Hows that PLP surround treating you? Oh wait...
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>>59889852
The rx 570 is a rebranded rx 470.
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Is the GTX 1100 series going to be a Pascal refresh?
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>>59889852
And the funny thing is that the Nvidia gpus are at stock clocks. /g/ tries to avoid the fact that amd gpus have no ocing headroom at all and that maxwell OCs like mad. A gtx 970 easily OCs to stock 980 levels and will smoke the ever living fuck out of the 480 in anything aside from the two games that amd users can play well (ashes and doom), but /g/ amd marketers doesn't want you to know that of course.
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>>59889914
Isn't it Volta?

>>59889928
>>59889852
>>59889779
>>59889756
Enjoy your shitty DX12 driver, fuckwad
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>>59889751
>summer july 2015
>MSI 290- $220 +$60 game
>sapphire r9 390 $345
no wonder its rare
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AYYMD REBRANDEON HOUSEFIRES
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So should I rush out and grab a 480 on sale now or pay a little more later for a cherry picked overclocked 480 v2?
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>>59889947
Not him but DX 12 is shit, its dx9/dx11 or the rare vulkan or opengl
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>>59889947

Enjoy your 25th replay of ashes of singularity and waiting months for hotfixes for every single released game out there so you can play for more than 5 minutes without BSODing.
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>>59889947
>>59889852
:3
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>>59889928
nvidia GPUs can get to high clocks but get piss clock scaling because of other bottlenecks in the architecture.
>>59889914
Probably. Volta won't be out until 2018.
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Why do people post 'just wait' like an insult? Do kids not realize R&D takes time?

Almost like engineering new architecture is something complex, woah
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>>59890122
https://videocardz.com/67289/nvidia-volta-to-be-manufactured-in-12nm-process

http://www.expreview.com/52959.html

2018 is only next year tho...
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>>59890148
>amd pajeet trying to salvage this fiasco
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>>59890168
and shortly after will be the high end Vega refresh and shortly before low end Vega will be replacing the 5XX series.
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>>59890031
ITS NOT FUNNY NVIDIOT
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>>59890148
Because AMDfags said wait Fury X then wait Fury X drivers.
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>Poolaris
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>>59890223
Fury X was excellent


Nvidicucks devastated they wont get HBM2 for another year
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>>59890288
>overhypped
>released AFTER nvidia card
>massive disappointment
>expensive
>slower than 980ti at the launch
>can't touch full gm200
>memory compression was bullshit
>this hourefire need a aio cooler
>draw a lot power
>wait 3 month for good driver
>finally match with the 980ti
>nobody bought it because that was too late
>nvidia release pascal
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>>59890288

Like HBMeme...

http://www.anandtech.com/show/11102/nvidia-announces-quadro-gp100
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>>59889735
>X DD
X--DDD :DDD:D
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>Nvidious retard samefagging the entire thread

Nvdrones are worse than Intelcucks.
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>>59891151
0/10 stupid amdtard.
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>>59891151
>27 posters
>samefagging
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>>59891151
(you)
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>>59891151
>>59891247
gotta love those false flags
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Well the RX 580 is for me (i have a gtx 960) the best upgrade in terms of the price
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>>59891614
nice try poojeet
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>>59889415
They could not produce HBM1 effectively enough

And now they have had constant issues with HBM2

I still want to see a massive size reduction in gpus with stacked ram
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>>59891676
That always happens with something new. GDDR5 was as rare as HBM back in the days it was first introduced.
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I dont get the hate aganist the Rebrand for the 5xx Series. Well its a small upgrade but its still an upgrade
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>>59891970
It's a reason to shitpost. NVIDIA will release Pascal Refresh and people will shitpost again. It never ends.
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>>59891983
I will be happy if i get the MSI RX 580 Gaming 8G Card
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>>59889413
pascal is getting a refresh in 2018 to go with skylake the 3rd
>>59889435
480 is already near a 390, 580 should best it in every title. If the eur prices converted to usd are right it will be $230 or less.
$200 cheaper midrange card can throw the same frames as the previous gen $400+ card? I fail to see the issue
>>59889561
>bunt mosfet?
r fukt m8
If you really wanted to revive it you could read up on smt hot air soldering or take it in somewhere if you could match the mosfet or remove it from a broken card.
>>59889914
yes, they might skip straight to 20 series ie 2080 etc.
>>59890031
maybe the best 470 overclocked to the max vs the stock reference card in the slide. sapphire nitro only does 75fps in doom 1080p ultra
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>>59891983

there won't be a pascal ''refresh'', nvidia is releasing volta around q4 '17 or q1 '18.
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>>59893072
Volta hasn't even taped out yet.
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>>59893072
Volta won't be in gaymen GPUs this year. Maybe quadros or tegras or some shit, but the consumer cards aren't coming until next year. The pascal refresh already started with the titan XP.
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>>59893072
Even Nvidia's own roadmap puts it in 2018, and considering someone already told you that it hasn't taped out the soonest you'll see it is April 2018
Maybe the HPC monster like P100 2 months earlier.
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>>59893086

[citation needed]

>Volta won't be in gaymen GPUs this year. Maybe quadros or tegras or some shit, but the consumer cards aren't coming until next year.

nvidia always releases quadros after the consumer/mainstream products.

> The pascal refresh already started with the titan XP.

titan xp isn't a refresh, it's an entirely new product with a fully enabled gp102 chip instead of a cut one like the titan x and 1080ti.
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>>59893229
>>[citation needed]
Nothing because it hasn't yet, for Pascal and Maxwell we know day1 when it taped out.

http://hexus.net/tech/news/graphics/83801-nvidia-tsmc-allegedly-tape-next-gen-14nm-pascal-gpu/
https://www.3dcenter.org/news/nvidias-maxwell-chips-gm204-gm206-legen-tape-out-fuer-die-28nm-fertigung-hin

And even if it did tape out today it still wouldn't make it in time for Q4 2017.
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>>59893199

You might see a GV100 teaser during GTC but it'll only start selling half a year later the soonest.

After that another several month wait for GV104 and another 2-3 month wait for GV102
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>>59893285

tapeouts are not usually announced publicly, these are just rumor mills that spread blatantly false info. a chip takes ~15 months from tapeout to mass production usually, which is pretty close to nvidia's release cadence.

volta will most likely be out january-feb '18 at the latest, maybe earlier with a large price premium if AMD completely drops the ball with vega.
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>>59894199
They're barely ever announced for a reason, all tapeout info has been unofficial, but rarely ever wrong. I mean most of this info comes from some middle-tier fab guy connected to a few industry people like Kyle and Charlie, who just paraphrase him
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>>59894199
If a card lineup is coming this year its a refresh of pascal most likely. Maybe a better process with better clocks maybe same process with a slight price drop due to Vega compeition

either way i doubt new architecture is coming this year.
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Looks like it's another two years of the 290x for me
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>>59895430
The 290 is the 2500k of GPUs. It is/was a great card.
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>>59895457
>not unlocked 290

Fag
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_ZMOn0X6jw
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>>59895573
>he couldn't even find some indian for $2 to do some acting for him

3/10
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>>59889561
You're so dumb it hurts.
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>>59889561
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>>59888715
well considering the goal of polaris was to bring high end (380X, gtx 970) performance at low end prices, yeah it's not bad that they could refine it to get significantly better than that target at (hopefully) same price. Once vega launches it'll be the replacement to the fury X and compete with 1080-1080Ti performance
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>>59888715
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tfw bought a rx480 for literally Doom 2016 and aoe2
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>>59896481
> tfw my 380X runs Doom 4 at 70+ fps 1080p
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>>59888715
This is literally not vega you fucking moron
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>>59897229
>WAIT® VEGA™

No shit
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>literally zero hype surrounding these cards
>intel shills still salty about the r5 use it to shitpost
kek
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>>59896392
underrated
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>>59890031

>Upgrade to 1080p

Is it 2007 again? I've been past 1080p since 2009.
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>>59890031
AMD fanboy here, this is still hilarious
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>>59890288

Because HBM1 really saved your sub-20% market share?
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>amd's physx
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>>59888715
So this totes means that RX 480 is gonna see a price drop right?
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Hey

What's the AMD equivalent of an Nvidiot?
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>>59889317
a decent OC on a 480 is enough to beat a 290X
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>>59897263
The corelet equivalent of Napoleon Complex.
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>>59898931
Amdrones
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>>59898384
Hello underage.

1080p was the standard In like 2003 for monitors
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>>59898676
I kek'd
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>>59889735
>xfx
>shows sapphire coolers
hmm
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>>59900269
It's the 290x vs 390x not XFX vs Sapphire
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>>59900269
Aren't XFX and Sapphire sister subsidiaries?
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>>59889561
> buying reference cooler vga

oh god
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>>59898384
> 99% of the market
> stop using it for comparison!!!1
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>>59900188
Hello underage. Most people were still on 1024x768 in 2003.
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>>59889317
It can if you need a lot of VRAM. 290X collapses after 4G, 480... Well, it can maintain somehow acceptable FPS at 4K. MSAA fucks its shit up, but there's more to it than just a memory, I believe.
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>>59900188
>2003
>16:9
>1920x1080
>standard
Kill yourself retarded underage piece of shit. Even professional monitors barely used 16:10 ratio yet alone 16:9 cancer which became mainstream in early 10's
Also in 2003 you'd had hard time even plying 1080p video without your system melting.
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>>59902135
Blower can be good
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apparently xfx 580s are at 1425Mhz out of box
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>>59889286
k e k
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>>59889349
amd isn't about competing dick length with nvidia anymore.. they go all about pushing boundaries of innovation
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>>59898676
micro and soft?
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>>59898676
>much better than anything physx has done
I would actually believe this to be an AMD creation in that case
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>>59888715
1440MHz factory boost clock.

Compared to even aftermarket 480's, this is a pretty big improvement, not to mention against the stock 480 that constantly throttled to 1200MHz
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>>59907464
Guess this is a refresh instead of a rebrand.
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>>59907464
this is a stock 580? I dont think so
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>>59908057
Stock are 1340MHz
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>>59902204
> Underage
>Old enough in 1996 to understand monitor resolutions
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