/retro/

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>>59879916

>>59879916

That's a shitload of eclectic data formats

I see Syquest, Magneto Optical Disks, Jazz Disks and Zip

>>59879916
eehh working on building a windows xp shitbox right now for some older software and retro vidya

>>59882276
kek, T420 isn't retro.

I use an IBM Model F keyboard, it's pretty nice. I should haul the rest of the AT out of the closet one of these days and see if its hard drive still spins up.

A few years ago I rustled up an ISA NIC and a DOS TCP stack. I was able to surf the web with Arachne. google.com (with no JS) took 45 seconds to download and render. If it wasn't for the captcha I could probably shitpost in these threads with it.

>>59882493
Try posting with the legacy capcha

>>59882522
Arachne doesn't support JS. At all. My impression was that no-JS posting doesn't work anymore. also I believe it lacks any support for SSL/TLS, idk if 4chan still responds to something that refuses to do encryption.

I guess I might as well try. I'll go get a cup of coffee and then haul it out.

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20 years

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>>59879916
Wow great score!

Also here's the latest pic of my retrostation. I got that 70s RCA TV (upper right corner) at a garage sale recently. I got it along with a '65 New Vista, VGA monitor, misc box of keyboards, and a gravis joystick all for just $12

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Okay, lets see if it runs. It's an 8MHz board, not the original (and enormous) 6MHz one. Has an 80287 that I think might even work. Not exactly original, since it has a VGA, not EGA, card, and a third-party monitor.

>>59882893
Did LGR recently do a video on one of those new in box?
beautifully designed machines

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>>59882892
This looks so comfy

>>59879916
Let me give everyone in this thread a simple piece of advice:

Forget about retro tech. Forget about collecting old computers or being fascinated by old operating systems.

I am going to make an assumption here that most of the people who will be posting in this thread will be in their early to mid 20s. Most of you will be living in apartments and rented houses. This will be the first time in your life when you have enough space of your own that you can dedicate a large part of it to your hobbies and interests without interference from outside parties such as your parents.

Does this sound about right? If this description fits you I again implore you: forget about old technology.

It is quite simply a terrible way to spend the best part of your youth. If your idea of fun means looking through craigslist for old keyboards and monitor and hoping to find the occasional piece of old workstation hardware I am begging you to stop and do things for yourself that will benefit your future. Develop a skill that matters. A skill you can make a living from. Talk to a girl. Go to events on the weekends. Do NOT sit around taking photos of old computers to post on the internet and talk about.

I know all this old stuff can seem utterly fascinating and causes you to yearn for an era you were never even a part of, but you have to resist that. Come back to it when you're 40, if you must.

>>59883061
Most functional adults can have a hobby and still do other things, you know. Not -everybody- here is autistic.

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Not sure if this retro enough

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Board is shot. Case is too small/proprietary to toss my mATX into. What do?

>>59883061
I'll do what I want honestly dude. I also find your needless projecting rather insulting too.

I'm 47 years old, lived the first 28 years of my life in a small third-world village that had collective electricity and running water in just a single building. I moved to America, and struggled for years to finally become a citizen. I will spend my hard earned income on the things that make me happy. There is not much time in life. Happiness is everything.

>>59882932
idk, he a youtuber? I don't follow that stuff.

Anyway it runs, but I need to figure out how to get the mouse driver running again. And the NIC. I think what's going on is that it doesn't understand DHCP and I have to give it a static address.

>>59883061
Its just a hobby anon.
i refurb old thinkpads to pass time and enjoy myself
Its cheap, i start with whatever i can get on ebay for 10$
>t42
>r52
>g40
>r30
>x41t
and my 380ed >>59882870
And i bring back to a good cosmetic standard and flawless functionality

Theres nothing wrong with enjoying old tech if its something you find fun and interesting.
And its not like this is all i do, im learning CAD and 3D modeling as a "productive skill" of sorts

Most people here have a life outside of /g/ and dont spend their time focusing entirely on old technology and anime tiddies

>>59883149
yeah, he gives very informative and in depth information on old ass hardware, dos era stuff and earlier

On the tree of tech youtubers by hardware age
>Linus Tech Tips for new stuff
>RandomGamingHD for older stuff (core2duo's, budget things)
>LGR for old shit

he recently got his hands on a PC AT brand new in the box, set it up and tested some of the stuff on it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLy_jEbuY-U

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>>59883105
That sticker came with the Enter the Matrix game, right? I have the same one on an old picture of a computer I have. Pic related.

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>>59883172
>recommending LinusCuckTips
>ever

>>59883061
I'm currently majoring in Computer Engineering junior year, and I can do whatever I damn well please with the money I'm getting from my current sysadmin work.

>>59883181
I think so

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>>59879916
>>59882276
>>59882870
>>59883134
>>59883181
>early 200s puters
>retro

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>>59883301
>early 200s puters

>>59883301
>1997
>early 2000's

>>59883134
break out the dremel.

>>59883134
Dremel tool, possibly a mini itx system instead to fit in a proper power supply
ECS has a 30$ AM1 itx mobo, then you can pop in something like an athlon 5350 and youve got a golden mitx sleeper

>>59883334
man I wish there was a functioning one, I would love to see it put to work

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>>59883061
>forget about something you enjoy that gives you purpose and happiness
doesn't work that way my man

honestly doing this has benefited my future pretty well anyway, by giving me some fun talking points in interviews and an actual reason to continue and value my university education, and keeping my interest in technology going in general, I wouldn't be here today without my beloved shitboxes, nor would I probably survive university if learning more about them and finding new ways to put them to work wasn't motivating me to take interest in my studies and explore new things in my spare time

even if it wasn't the case, devoting the entirety of your life to the pursuit money and pussy is no more fulfilling no matter how much you must personally regret doing so, and I've never met a single person who thinks this way that isn't an empty, boring or otherwise shitty person

>>59883105
>>59883181
these things are so ugly but I've always wanted to cobble together something like it, there's something nice about machines that look like they've had a lot of love (and abuse) over the years

>>59882870
>>59882971
>imgur
>Facebook
Y-YAMERO!?

>>59883492
There's an urge to keep things pristine.
Don't listen to it.
Put any sticker, scratch with a knife, duct tape, whatever, just get the initial imperfection over with. Being able to make hardware stuff helps too.

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>>59883492
i miss my micronpc clientpro 325
it was my very fist computer, i dad bought it from his credit union way back in the day as a way to build credit in 2003
so it was a really nice machine at the time
>2ghz pentium 4
>512mb of DDR ram
>two 40gb 5400rpm ATA hard drives
>cd burner and a cd reader
>geforce 4 ti4600
>windows xp professional
And around 2006 or so when they bought a newer lga 775 machine i got it, and it was my runescape machine until around 2010 when it finally died, power surge killed the PSU and took the hard drives with it, no point in repairing an old PC at that time

I was thinking of tracking one down thats been refurbed, or maybe just a case to build a system from the time inside of. Because that machine gave quite a lot to my childhood, thats where i met all my friends on Runescape, Roblox and Habbo Hotel, hell i met my girlfriend on Runescape in 2008.

Pic isnt mine, but its the best pic i could find online of the system

>>59883541
its where i uploaded the gallery since i took the pictures with my sisters nikon, they were like 15mb images and 4chan obviously wouldnt take them
http://imgur.com/a/pguQj

>>59883592
I was saying I just noticed a hyperlink that takes me to where they came from.

>>59883628
i post most of my images that i take to imgur or (forgive me) funnyjunk
since their technology board also likes my old shit
so those ones are usually "Blank+_randomshithere" and ive been called out for those before
(which only exposes that person as another fag who browses funnyjunk)

Well I can ping my AT. Now if only I can manage to tell Arachne to use the right IP address I should be able to have it online.

Ping times are up to 45ms for something on the same switch, hah

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ta daaa

what other sites should I try? (I did confirm btw, it won't speak SSL)

One of the first PC's i ever owned was my granddad's old office PC from the 80's, it had windows 3.1 on it too and the old bulky pre-ps2 connections and everything

Looking back i prolly shouldn't have thrown it away

>>59883734
toastytech

>>59883734
um... http://retro.hackaday.com/?

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>>59883762
I timed it on my phone, it took 40 seconds to load and render the page

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>>59883576
nah I'll always love pristine shit, experiencing expensive toys as they were as a brand new product fresh off the assembly line is a lot of fun especially for people like me who often had second-hand hardware or low end new hardware, and a fetish for the best of the best we as a species could put forward

but I have a soft spot for beat to shit boxes too, not only do they have a cozy look to them but I can also put them to work and experiment on them more freely without worrying about minor damage or violating autism, pic related's practically rusted through already and now I'm getting it ready to become a workhorse terminal/file server for my oldest stuff, kind of want to find some stickers or something for it too

>>59883582
when I started collecting I really wanted a system like that, I had a micron fetish for sentimental reasons mostly, still have a probably 7 ft stack of earlier 486/pentium models by now but I've never bothered to take stock, always buy them when I see them since I'm waiting to eventually get an absolutely top-spec P90PCI

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>>59883734
>>59883834
is that running on the original EGA card too?
I've wanted an AT for fucking ever, but I've never even seen one in the flesh. I've got a decent number of PCs, XTs, PS/2s, even a fucking quad-processor RS/6000, but not even a shitty example of probably one of the most impactful small systems IBM ever built.

>>59883148
He said wait until you're 40, so it doesn't apply to you.

>>59883061
>fuck your hobbies, spend your time and money courting a vaginal jew

Yeah nah.

>>59879916
LGR, get out of 4chan and do another Thrift video, please

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Anyone have one of these? What kinds of cool things can you do on one? And how do you get one without spending a small fortune on eBay?

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>>59883800
Took about a minute. Most of which was spent in downloading the 9.5KB of webpage, by the status bar. I think it can transfer faster than that, but it bangs on the hard drive doing it. Which I suppose in unsurprising considering that the driver, TCP stack, web browser, and command.com are stuffed into 640k. (There's some kind of memory board in the system, but I think everything above conventional memory is EMS, not XMS, which nothing uses. Or maybe not, I forget how I set this thing up)

>>59883900
No, it isn't. I got it with a batch of other old machines (some XT clones), and only CGA and MDA monitors. Wanting something better than CGA, I salvaged a VGA screen from somewhere. It's driven by some random Trident 512k card, which will occasionally forget that it does color and boot up in B&W.

>PS/2
what model? Those were always sexy looking boxes

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Currently typing on one of these (RT3200) from 1992.

>>59883995
god danm anon im so fucking jealous
thats one of the most beautiful keyboards ive ever seen, and ive always wanted one ever since i first laid fingers on one a friend owns

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>>59883983
Model 70, 30/8086 and an L40SX, think I have a PS/2 note somewhere too that's seen better days

>>59884010
$43 plus expensive shipping and a ps/2 to usb adapter from monoprice.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/370819657273
Its not mechanical

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>>59884016
A 70? I think a 70 was the one I had, one of those suitcase machines. Being a massive loser in my teens I'd bring it to school with me. I'd write shitty little programs on it during my break. One day it's disk and/or controller died, and that was the end of it. I always did want one of the 8086-based machines, just for the novelty of an '86 instead of an 88.

My dad had a PS/2 of some model or another back in the early 90s when they were current hardware. His job issued it to him so that he could dial in remotely and do who knows what. I just played Skifree and Klotski on it, sometimes he'd come downstairs and kick me off because he needed to do work on it.

Anyway for my last picture I had to do this, since we are, after all, on /g/.

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>>59884247
Yeah, sounds like you had the P70 which was just a regular desktop 70 like mine but shoved into a luggable enclosure. They're cool machines, and expensive as fuck. The 60MB ESDI drive is a little limiting if you want to do anything fun on it though, OS/2 and AIX are hogs.

The 8086 30s were a really shitty value when they were new but I still like them, the 30 is built into the same slim little desktop case as the 55SX and is pretty much the final iteration of the XT as an IBM product.

Retro technology makes me feel oddly melancholy. I think it's the inherent anachronism of it, that it still exists and works hard at a task that has long since stopped being required.

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>>59883061
It isn't that fucking time-consuming to play around with some computers and I often have a damn lot of free time (still being a student on disability welfare money due to some unfortunate illnesses in my late teens). Even when I do develop the skills I hope to make a living with in the future, I can't spend 10 hours straight on that.

>>59879916
All that? $25? Nice!!!

I lucked out once and picked up a bunch of Power Mac stuff at an estate sale for $50. The crown jewel was a Power Mac 9600/350, clean with everything working except one of the SCSI drives. Can't part with that one since it's the pinnacle of the 604e Macs.

>>59883061
>Let me give everyone in this thread a simple piece of advice:
>Forget about shit posting.
>Forget about shitting on people's hobbies or being pissed off that people like what you don't like.
>I am going to make an assumption here that most of the shit posters who will be shitting in this thread are autistic.
>This will be the first time in your life when you have Internet access without your mommy watching over you.
>Does this sound about right? If this description fits you I again implore you: forget about shit posting.
>It is quite simply a terrible way to spend the best part of your youth. If your idea of fun means looking through other people's posts for an opportunity to shit on what they enjoy.
>I am begging you to stop and do things for yourself that will benefit your future.
>Develop a personality that matters.
>Talk to a normie.
>Do NOT sit around talking shit.

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>>59884751
Well. You believe that? that is a PowerBook 145c. Not a powerbook 100.

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>>59883061
>Talk to a girl.
What are you, straight?

>>59884751

Here is a look at the early lineup:

http://jasontaylor.dyndns.org/blog/mac-museum/powerbooks-macbooks/powerbook-through-the-years-the-100-series/

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>want to build a sleeper pc
>it's literally impossible to find good beige boxes around here
>don't want to gut my old mid 90's pc

>>59883900
Holy shit, what is in that picture is insanely rare, and it boots? OMG, get pictures. Fantastic. just fantastic.

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not sure if really retro but it was cheap and i wanted a real cd player. used a dvd player before that and it looked weird because they are so thin but the amp is not.

>>59885313

CD players are definitely retro, I don't think you can even buy them these days, outside of audiophool crap.

>>59885288
I've got like 20 of them. Want one? do you live in Greece by any chance?

>>59885288
wtf is a "sleeper pc"

>>59885336

Finland. There used to be a lot of them available, along with CRTs a few years ago, but now they're all gone.

>>59885342

New components in an old case, basically.

>>59885363
on niitä kierrätyskeskuksissa/kaatopaikoilla mut se on sit eri asia että antaako ne ottaa mitään sieltä.

>>59885376

I can only find black cases in Kierrätyskeskus, and they're expensive as fuck for old tech.

>>59883334
>2011 computer

>>59883061
Justin! Long time no see!

>>59883149
How about a TCP stack that supports DHCP?

>>59883061
Is this the new retro pasta meme?

>>59886111
Dunno, it's pretty old and stale.

>>59883061
>Talk to a girl.
>Go to events on the weekends.
>interaction with the opposite sex
>social interaction
you do know you're on /g/?

>>59886436
>you do know you're on /g/?
Just because it's hard for you doesn't mean it's hard for me.

>>59886548
Normies on my /gee/?!

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>>59883061
>your idea of fun does not fit my idea of fun so it's wrong
>you do not fit in my image of the social norm, so it's wrong
my-my

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>>59883980
-get a 16-bit pcmcia network card, drivers, mtcp.
-use for irc and telnet-to-router-then-ssh-to-whatever
-run baycom and use as a terminal for aprs/packet radio
-play oldass roguelike releases that only need real mode

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>>59883061
>talking to girls
thats fucking disgusting

>>59886864
That's a fantastic little setup.

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>>59879916
Here's another thing for you guys. Got this connected and working on dialup of all things a few weeks ago. As expected it was very slow.

>>59883061
get the fuck out

>>59879916
>Picked this up today for 25$. Everything works great, even the CD burner.
I recently got a Power Macintosh for 20 bucks, also came with everything, he originally wanted 50 bucks on craigslist and I would have bought it for it, but when I actually got to it he already lowered the price to 20, all I actually wanted from it was the floppy drive for my Quadra... rest of the stuff is still sitting backed away, guess it's good to have a backup keyboard/mouse and monitor.

>>59886864
cute!

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I attempted to be artistic with this photo of my iBook G4 1.33 GHz.... Btw nice setup OP!
>>59879916

>>59879916
Gorgeous setup OP, I'm jealous.

>>59883061
>Talk to a girl.
Where do you think you are?

Nice pasta though.

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I want an FM towns so bad but I know I'll never find one for a reasonable price in the US

I got an IBM ThinkPad from 1994. Its a 340. I've also got a 365XD from 1995 I think. The 340 is in amazing condition minus the missing port door on the rear. Running DOS on a monochrome display. Everything works brilliantly.

>>59883061

Ironically, you are the autist. I'm a normal functioning and socially healthy person with a very social career, I'm 24, I buy old computers sometimes, I have a few. I don't scour the internet 24/7 for Model M keyboards. Don't be such a retard.

>>59883061
I'm a medical student, have a nice girlfriend I fuck multiple times a week (I took her virginity), am a hobbyist programmer that knows more than 7 programming languages, know more about programming than most of my contacts in the industry (they call me up for help sometimes, they owe me many favors, can easily get a job if all else fails), have several properties signed under my name producing rent every month with exactly 0 hours of work on my part, have an absurd amount of long-term investments already in place... I'm pretty much guaranteed to become not just rich but also intelligent and successful.

Am I allowed to like old computers now dad?

>>59879916
Dongles: the early years

>>59887517
>>59887545
Why do you guys always fall for shitty bait?

>>59883995
It's mechanical or rubber dome?

>>59887626
Because it's a chance to talk about ourselves in an otherwise anonymous website. Not everyone here is a loser.

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>>59879916
Real neat, I'm more of a 68k guy myself.

>>59882892
Nice try AVGN

>>59887686
sounds more like insecurity issues or urges to try make yourself look good, normal people don't do that

>>59883980
We had whole threads for these a while ago

>>59887739
Narcisism

>>59887545
>hes a "medical" student
>at an indian-tier medical school
>in the remedial track
>he did not study for free
>he takes his "medical" studies seriously
>he does it because mom threatened to cut off his internet if he didn't get a job
>he can now claim his piss bottles are "studying for work"
>he can now claim hes a medical student because he is a nurse's assistant's assistant's assistant
>he will never be a nurse's assistant
>he will never own a property in his name, but he can pretend he does because he was named after his long-embarrassed father
>he will never fit in scrubs below 4XL
>his nice girlfriend will never be clearly man or woman, but a distasteful mix of flesh and disgust
>he has a lot of time to post on a pan-Chinese key-making forum because he is 'to inteligent' for his medical studies

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>>59882893
I used to have a beefed up XT clone, with 3Com ethernet, SoundBlaster 16, NEC V20+8087 and EGA (to keep the original monochrome monitor).

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>>59887708
Are you still able to post from the 68k machines?

>>59883459
I think you'll like this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRXI9KLImC4

>>59887795
It's OK anon.

>>59887903
No captcha, you can only lurk.

>>59887795
Was I supposed to read that in Tyrone's voice?

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>>59888016

>>59888024
Who?

>>59888075
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdC_Cu9X4wc

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What keyboard/mouse did the late 80's early 90's RS/6000 systems used? Also what video connector?

>>59887455
I want a NeXTCube

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>>59883734
>what other sites should I try?
asciipr0n

>>59887196
Is there ISPs offering dial up here or you're communicating to another computer and sharing the connection?

>>59888656
There's still community run dialup. I don't expect it to last much longer honestly.

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>>59885309
http://forums.nekochan.net/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=16731534
Dude went full autism on the restoration. Wish there were some pictures of the boards on the inside, or better yet some archives of the soft

>>59889250
...ware, fuck.
>>59888186
13W3 and presumably PS/2 keyboards, since they were internally similar to the PS/2 line in many ways.

>>59887658
Rubberdome. If you want a TKL mech with a trackpoint, you are going to have to build it yourself.

I fucking hate it when some faggot who doesn't even care finds a storage unit or something full of old computer shit and starts selling them for ridiculous prices that hipsters actually pay for them.

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>>59883017
Thanks

>>59887708
ayy wallpaperbuddy

>>59887729
kek I did get a lot of ideas from the nerd room

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>>59890672
Hei hei wallpapersource

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>>59889319
finally got around to looking into it more, they did use PS/2 keyboards and mice

>>59889319
>>59891192
Thanks, I guessed that too, but it's hard to find information for those units. All I'd need then is a 13W3 to VGA adapter or cable.

>>59891598
With this shit it seems pretty easy to get raw data on them and even some contextual shit like release/discontinuation dates that are hard to find for a lot of other systems, but finding any visual or actual hands-on information on them is fucking annoying to no end.

What RS/6000 do you have, anyway? Not every day you see one.

>>59890672
>tfw no comfy room to nerd out
>tfw no stuff to nerd a comfy room out with

>>59891670
>What RS/6000 do you have, anyway? Not every day you see one.
There's one on sale locally, I don't have much information about it, there's a not that great picture of it's back, I don't actually see a 13W3 port on it, kinda worried if it actually has a video card in it, maybe it was a headless server.
All I see are SCSI and ethernet cards. Guess the leftmost port is parallel and the serial, mouse and keyboard ports are on the right, under the fan.

If I get it I will post about it in a future /retro/ thread.

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>>59891820
Forgot picture.

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Dunno if this considers as really retro:

>P4 2.8GHz
>ASUS P4B533
>Deer DR-A300ATX 300W
>JNC RJA-52 case
>80GB WDC WD800BB
>ATi Radeon HD3450 512MB AGP
>1GB DDR400 Kingston KVR
>Pioneer DVD-117 DVD-ROM
>3Com Etherlink 3C905C-TX B 10/100Base-T NIC
>Windows XP SP3 Media Center Edition 2005

>>59891872
it's the "young hipster" kind of retro

>>59885622
I did get it working. I just gave the router (a pfSense box) a static mapping for that MAC address. Apparently its fine with something that doesn't understand DHCP as long as both sides agree on what MAC and IP go together. DNS worked fine.

What I should do is use this newfound power to transfer/back up files. I have a little hyperterminal-like program on there, but I'd have to set something up for it to talk to, it certainly doesn't speak SSH. I think I have telnet and ftp. Also the readme said it could work as a serial terminal, which'd be neat - I could sit it on my desk and use it as a shell for a modern Linux machine.

>>59887877
Nice machine, are those heatsinks on the CPU/FPU? I'd never seen heatsinks on anything less than a top-end 386 before.

Ever seen 8088 Corruption? Some guy managed to play like a minute of smooth video on an XT. It was a DMA trick that depended on the Soundblaster card that made the thing fast enough to work.

>>59888356
appears to need TLS, when I try it on my main machine.

>>59889250
it really is an incredible job. I don't think I could get mine to look that clean, it had a hard life.

>>59890811
My very first video card upgrade was a Voodoo 5, back in like 2000 or so. I still have it, if I ever get my hands on a P3-era system I should dig it out and play Deus Ex.

>>59891872
>Deer
that's like the canonical worst-of-the-worst power supplies, but I thought they'd vanished by the late P4 era. At least under that brand name, Deer got a reputation, so they started selling under other names.

>>59891820
>>59891837
Yeah, that's definitely a headless setup, that card next to the ethernet controller with the giant D-sub looks like it might be a multiport serial controller for hanging lots of terminals, might've been set up as a workgroup/branch office server of some kind.

Not really a big deal though if you ask me, unless you really wanted to do some graphics programming. Most AIX workstations were CAD boxes, and you'd be hard pressed to find that software nowadays.

I'd personally love one of those to put to work as a retro terminal server, if you can get a good compiler for AIX you could probably get a mail client, RSS feed reader, Lynx, editor, some text games, etc. for basic stuff. If you're feeling adventurous or want to play pretend scientist or whatever, you can load Mathematica on it and use it as a remote kernel host, which you can run as-is from the command line or dial into from another system running the graphical front-end:
http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/mathematica-2
http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/mathematica-3

In other words, it's good shit and you've still got options if you're interested and it's cheap enough.

>>59891872
>>59891906
Nothing wrong with messing with mid-2000s hardware, it's a decent blend of versatile modernity and legacy excitement. The last gasps of manufacturers who actually gave a shit about their products.

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>>59879916

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>>59892054
>What I should do is use this newfound power to transfer/back up files. I have a little hyperterminal-like program on there, but I'd have to set something up for it to talk to, it certainly doesn't speak SSH. I think I have telnet and ftp. Also the readme said it could work as a serial terminal, which'd be neat - I could sit it on my desk and use it as a shell for a modern Linux machine.
mTCP has telnet and ftp server, also supports DHCP but you already got that fixed.
With a telnet server on Linux it's just as easy as SSH to remote into it with your old box.

>Nice machine, are those heatsinks on the CPU/FPU? I'd never seen heatsinks on anything less than a top-end 386 before.
Thanks, I installed them myself to extend longevity, the FPU did get crispy hot and I could not imagine it running like that without a heatsink.

>Ever seen 8088 Corruption? Some guy managed to play like a minute of smooth video on an XT. It was a DMA trick that depended on the Soundblaster card that made the thing fast enough to work.
Yeah, I have tried it, it's pretty neat. But not as neat as a stock A500 playing full motion 12-bit video.

>appears to need TLS, when I try it on my main machine.
Try www.cleartext.asciipr0n.com

>My very first video card upgrade was a Voodoo 5, back in like 2000 or so. I still have it, if I ever get my hands on a P3-era system I should dig it out and play Deus Ex.
That's cool, always loved 3Dfx, this one's a Voodoo 2, recently been looking for a second card and a P2 box to SLI them in.

>>59892196
>Not really a big deal though if you ask me, unless you really wanted to do some graphics programming.
>In other words, it's good shit and you've still got options if you're interested and it's cheap enough.
Yeah, I'll definitely get it if I can get it for a reasonable price.

>>59892259
Is the model specified in the listing?

>>59892276
Type 7012, Model 320

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Retro enough?

>>59892231
I think I might set that up. Probably spin up a VM for it though, I'm just not comfortable running a telnet server on my main Linux machine, it gives me the security willies.

I shoulda kept that tiny-ass amber-screen MDA monitor, if I'm gonna make a terminal of it. It never crossed my mind six years ago, I wasn't much of a Linux user back then.

>Try www.cleartext.asciipr0n.com
hey, there we go, thanks. I'll make a note of that for when I fire it up next. I need to rearrange some stuff if I decide I want to have my AT live out on my desk all set up.

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>>59892295
Nice. That's a real early one, with the original multi-chip POWER1 processor too by the looks of it. Might be a little anemic for some jobs, but it was still worth five figures to someone once.

Have you found this page? I'm sure you have but it's cool to read anyway, wish more OEMs saved information like this.
http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/ShowDoc.wss?docURL=/common/ssi/rep_sm/0/897/ENUS7012-320/index.html&lang=en&request_locale=en

>>59892472
>Nice. That's a real early one, with the original multi-chip POWER1 processor too by the looks of it. Might be a little anemic for some jobs, but it was still worth five figures to someone once.
Yeah, pretty darn cool though.

>Have you found this page? I'm sure you have but it's cool to read anyway, wish more OEMs saved information like this.
Thanks!

>>59892469
>I think I might set that up. Probably spin up a VM for it though, I'm just not comfortable running a telnet server on my main Linux machine, it gives me the security willies.
>I shoulda kept that tiny-ass amber-screen MDA monitor, if I'm gonna make a terminal of it. It never crossed my mind six years ago, I wasn't much of a Linux user back then.
Yeah, do that and have fun!
Also try out some BBSs and MUDs. Too bad you don't have the original monitor anymore, doing so with a amber or green phosphor monitor is kickass.

unboxing a factory sealed brand new 29 year old IBM PC AT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLy_jEbuY-U

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>>59892582
No doubt, not a lot of those left anymore. Definitely blogpost a little if you decide to pick it up.

Now I want to get myself a 25T even more...

>>59883734
Space Jam website.

>>59888656
There's NetZero and that's a free dial up service.

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>>59879916
Do pre-Lenovo ThinkPads count?
>Pic related: IBM ThinkPad G40 I got for $5.00 at a Salvation Army.

>>59893435
Is that also where you got the period correct camera?

>>59893435
Does it have the baby housefire FX 5200 graphics chip in it too?

I never understood why the G40s had such shit graphics options despite being desktop replacements. Why would anyone buy one over a T-series? I can't imagine them being cheaper.

>>59885376
Stop letting your cat walk on your keyboard anon

>>59893443
Logitech C110 webcam. Pretty shit for a 2012 webcam.
>>59893478
Intel Extreme Graphics 2 judging from a quick search.

>>59883061
sod off cunt

>>59893505
Also, I plan on installing Windows 98 SE + KernelEx on it (since it has drivers).

>>59883061
Nailed it.

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>>59893478
G41 had the Fx go5200
the IBM glock fowty has intel extreme graphics
ive got one myself with the 2.8ghz socket 478 housefire pentium 4

>>59893505
>>59893855
I thought the 40 had it as an option. I know all three of mine are kitted with """Extreme""" graphics.

>>59893478
because circa 2003 your T series options were the T40 and T41, both of which were running banias pentium m's and they were terrible compared to the pentium 4's and celerons of the time
it was an actual workstation even without a decent dedicated GPU
and all the other options that year had 32mb of less ati mobility chips which werent that much better

>>59893855
Don't forget that it's fucking heavy too even without the battery.

>>59893906
nah, it doesnt have the connectors for it.
>>59893931
oh yeah, mines like 9 pounds or something with the battery in it

>>59894002
And it's still heavy without it because of the heatsink (which is a block of copper with a hint of aluminum.)

>>59893925
>it was an actual workstation even without a decent dedicated GPU
Hell no, at least if we have the same definition of workstation. Extreme graphics were ass, and the FireGLs of the actual mobile workstation T-series, hell even the Mobility Radeon 7500s of the run-of-the-mill stuff probably would have kicked the shit out of them. I bet a good Banias M would at very least match the chickenshit Northwood 2.4s I usually see in those things too, that one's up for debate though.

All in all the G40 was practically a run-of-the-mill vomit box in a nice portable enclosure. Still a cool system though, it's not like it matters much who's got the longer e-dick when they're all micropenises anyway.

>>59894064
i should go break it out and bench it against my T42
i know both can do the same games, Empire Earth 1, Halo CE, SWAT 3, Sim City 4, even the first Hotline Miami game runs ok

>>59894149
Sounds cool, why not?
Maybe we'll find out if there was some method to their madness.

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>>59883980
>>59886864
upgraded

>>59894064
Just curious, since I don't have the charger for my G40 yet, how does the Intel Extreme Graphics 2 perform under certain 3D games or 2D games?

>>59895217
I'm gonna power up my G40 in a bit to try some games an benchmarks on it, get some info
Ill go for newer stuff first but ill probably also throw in some older benchmark tests from 2003 if I can find them.
Got a few games on my GOG library and things like CS 1.6, Vice City, etc on my steam
Probably install halo CE too
I've never kicked the tires and lit the fires on this thing before, id like to really burn that pentium 4 in
Ain't successful without a blue screen

>>59883061
>follow this advice
>throw away everything I own
>fukk biches, get $ for the next 18 years
>turn my head
>2035
>Commodore 64 costs 27 billion earth credits off of googlEbay
>rendered inoperable by order of the world government for being able to run unapproved code
Cucked again

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>>59895506
oh boy this is slow as balls

installing Swat 3, Empire Earth, 3dmark 2003, and Steam right now
when steam is done ill install Vice City and CS 1.6

This is a test

Yes
No

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>>59879916

>>59895855
>dat luna silver
It's been too long

I use to use royale noir back in the day

>>59885371
What's the purpose?

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>>59895962
A E S T H E T I C S

>>59883061
spot the roastie

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>>59895952
>Royale Noir
I have it on my Latitude D620 along with one of the default wallpapers for Vista.

>>59895997

The monitor and speakers ruin any attempt at aesthetics, in fact particularly that monitor, hideous. Find some more beige or go full rgb gamer, make the leap

>>59895997
The same guy who owns that PC also converted 3.5" floppy disks into SD card caddies and a 3.5" FDD into an SD card reader.

>>59895855
For such a hot chip the cooler is actually pretty good
Under 50c its big enough to run passively, no fan noise
Over 50 it kicks in but its a low noise you don't notice much
Haven't gotten that hot yet but we'll see if I can refrain from going full house fire mode
Vice city won't run on it smoothly say the internet
So I'm not gonna do vice city

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>>59896018
Woah that's the exact same theme, wallpaper, and vista sidebar that I used on my Inspiron 9300 years ago

I should dig it out

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>>59896018
>>59896146
Here are my gaymes.

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>>59895855
color me impressed, this thing does not get hot
3Dmark 2003 was only able to do one test, it wouldnt run anything else in the demo
got a fantastic score of 63
It was the planes test, it ran kinda mediocre, 1fps stutters at time when there were lots of aircraft on screen, when it was under 10 planes blowing up and shit i got around 25-30fps

Furmarks GPU test cannot be done on this hardware, incompatible
burned it up though and it hit a max of around 65c
which is better than my fucking t42, which can hit 80c+ at times
really surprised this housefire didnt actually get too hot

>>59896356
So, it's cool despite it having a small cooler for a desktop Northwood Pentium 4?

>>59893435
Throw some ram and a ssd into it and its a comfy light text browsing machine that is usually totally silent.

>>59896389
I am planning on installing 1GB of RAM on it, but I'm keeping the 80GB HDD since there's no TRIM support for IDE (if I remember correctly).

>>59883061
Someone's bitter about their life.

I'll have whatever hobby I want bitch, being bitter is for whinny bitches like you.

kys already

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>>59896383
Yeah honestly, its really impressive to me
as i said earlier under 50c its entirely passive, fan turns off
when it hits 50 it whirs up but its still very quiet
it never got louder than that either

however from a 3D perspective, ill admit its a bit shit
Halo CE was at its best played in 640x480 on the lowest settings, that got me what looked like a very strong >30fps game, very smooth, explosions and gunfire didnt effect anything

in 1024x768 on low i was clearly below 30fps and found stuttering but it was still playable by my standards

800x600 on low was also pretty ok
640x480 on general medium settings was ok

>>59882892
thats a really nifty room anon

>>59896460
quick update, CS 1.6 gave me a decent framerate in 800x600 with low res textures on
played a quick game on assault and got my shit kicked in but it runs

installing SWAT 3 next, since thats a more demanding 3D game
then ill do Empire Earth
i wouldnt have wiped this machine if i knew i would need these things in the future because god danm is it slow to install

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I jus got this 20 yr old Pioneer DVD player on the middle left stack for $10 at a thrift store because I knew it'd look really good next to my CD changer (that I also got at a thrift store)...

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>>59896578
Swat 3 requires some special graphics driver in order to run, since this chip doesnt support jack shit
and i remember last time i spent literally 5 days searching for them since they were from 2001 and were not common
however since that game is from 1999 and was well optimized, i was able to very easily run in native resolution at max settings
but it requires DX8, which this chip doesnt do

Empire Earth was a weird one, in any resolution i would get stuttering for about a minute, then it would be just fine, i think its related to the old and dying HDD
otherwise 1024x768 32 bit color at max settings resulted in near unplayable performance for some reason
dropping to 800x600 with general medium settings was much better
even tested it with a shitload of macemen to see if more models caused any issues

>>59887455
>I'll never find one for a reasonable price in the US
I live in Japan and they're not cheap here either, when you can find one.

>>59896870
this looks so very comfy and i didnt even play that game

the strong colors and graininess kinda remind me of zoo tycoon.zoo tycoon was the shit

>>59896614
I'm really fucking annoyed that every pawn shop and thrift store in my city is aware of the actual value of audio equipment
My receiver burnt out a month ago and I havent been able to find a replacement for less than $120, at which point I may as well just buy a fucking new one

>>59896870
So basically, 3D performance is shit and that it's more suitable for 2D games such as SimCity 2000 or Age of Empires?

>>59896944
Id say so
EE is still 3d, its nor fully top down isometric or whatever

CPU performed very well but that GPU is lacking
So ill say I was wrong, I admit I was misinformed and thought more of I than it could actually do
Most stuff is playable bit not great, some stuff runs fantastically

I'm going to call it there as well tested, showing what its capable of
I might try some other stuff like OSRS or Conquer Online later

Are there any sites/shops that buy or recycle old computers?

>>59897030
I wonder how that Pentium 4 performs under the modern web.

>>59897237
Its fine for most things
Video can be a bit iffy and more complex flash games can lag a bit
Habbo Hotel is a good example, runs just fine in Firefox on those specs. Though loading times are slow

>>59897312
It could also be the browser itself.

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>Discover that Hauntology is a thing.
>Describes my fascination with old technology to a T.
There's something haunting about this discovery in-and-of itself, although it further drives home the weird complex I already figured out I had.
I used to watch a ton of adverts, computer chronicles, etc, on an old machine, and then buy it, toy with it briefly and get bored instead of continuing with fascination. Subconsciously I've a strong feeling that what I was actually trying to do was buy the future implicit in the marketing of the machine, if that makes sense.

Apple 2 forever I suppose

>>59879916
great condition
good find

>>59897107
It depends on where you live.

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My newest find, a Power Mac 7220 (aka 4400 outside asia-pacific). A bit of an oddball machine for Apple, floppy drive's on the wrong side, no plastic outer case, IDE drive when SCSI was their norm, motherboard is based off a design for the clone manufacturers.

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My current laptop. 14 years old, was going to be recycled. Works pretty good with Puppy Linux.

>>59898261
I've always wanted one of these to use as a bridge box, their overall design is interesting and honestly I don't mind the look of them either, even if they're pretty much a poster child of Apple's '90s decline.

>>59893723
You might get better results running 2000 SP4 with the unofficial kernel extension.

This video explains what to do. I feel it's easier to use 2000 SP4 than 98SE+KernelEX because some apps aren't supported on 98SE but work on 2k.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uDXtJqdcKM

>>59894714
Can you program on these things? Or is that a waste of time?

>>59883061
> talk to a girl

Tried that. Just introduced a massive stressor into my life.

>>59899450
I'm actually going to do that with my Latitude D620 once I get a better XP laptop (since it also happens to have 2000 drivers).

>>59899459
>waste of time?
When you can buy RMS status lenovo x60 for dirt cheap and install libreboot and trisquel? Yes.

I came here thinking this is a retro thread, what's up with all those thinkpads and pentium 4's?

>>59899459
Later ones like his that use standard CGA displays are 100% PC compatible, so yeah. Just get a big enough CF card to hold all of your shit.

Even the 95LX that isn't fully compatible due to fucky graphics modes still has a freemacs port and can run any compiler you can also run on a PC.

>>59899527
Those don't fit in the palm of your hand and last a month on a pair of AAs, though. LX palmtops are the shit once you get used to the tiny keyboard.

>>59899536
Reminder that people who were born in 1999 can post here.

>>59896902
Ebay, if you can find free shipping rates, is a good place to look. My entire main setup is either hand me downs, thrift store, ebay, or gifts so I've had pretty good luck being cheap.

I actually did also see a very very modern Onkyo A/V receiver in Goodwill store with like 5 HDMI ports for less than $30 which was suprising. People are really swarming over the obsolete or "vintage" components at these places I've noticed. One man's trash....

>>59892395
Vista support ends soon anon

>>59885313
Using DDG is worse than using Google, friend.
Switch to Startpage/ixquick or searx.me

>>59899654
It already ended. He just needs to keep his antivirus up to date and be more careful on the internet.

>>59882892
I love this picture

>>59899536
They're just catch-alls for old shit, post about something older if you'd like to discuss it.

>>59899527
>x60
I've already fallen for the thinkmeme x61s. I just find the idea of programming on the gameboy equivalent of an IBM PC fascinating.

>>59895997
this is the 640x480 wallpaper from windows 95 setup.

is there any higher resolution version of it available?

>>59890017
not true, unicomp makes one but it's shit. I have it and am typing on it right now, the keyboard part is great, the trackpoint is shit. non uniform speed for different directions.

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>>59899898
>is there a higher resolution of a graphic made for something that never ran in any other mode but 640x480x16?

>>59899961
Huh. i dont see a TKL endurapro on their site. The M13 is meh trackpoint wise because its a 2 button anyways.

>>59897699
>hauntology

Never heard of this before either, but holy shit, it does make a lot of sense.

>>59883134
rPi or something like that

>>59883734
Can't handle the POWER of the Num Lock status led, wussy?

>>59883734
Can't handle the POWER of the Num Lock status led, wussy?

>>59888016
time for a 4chan pass!

>>59887903
with OS 8 you might be able to get a browser new enough to display the JS-less captcha
if you're autistic and like keeping your shit stock it's SOL though, I'd be amazed if there was even a browser that supports CSS for my quadra 700 that's still on the original 7.0.1 install

>>59900689
Can confirm that you can post from Classilla, which apparently supports OS 8.6.

>>59883148
Credit to you sir. You're absolutely right, you need to make the most of your situation.

From what you've written, it's clear to me that you've done so.

If I may ask, what 3rd world country did you spend the first 28 years of your life in?

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>>59895997
>>59899898

my windows 7 modification project

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>>59887455
didnt know that there are other models like this too

>>59899981
>ever ran in any other mode but 640x480x16?
are you 12?

>>59901161
Doesn't support 68K though, PowerPC only.

>>59902695
Time for a PPC accelerator

>>59902680
not him, but while setup.bmp was available as a wallpaper after installation, it was primarily made to be used during setup, which i don't believe ran in anything besides 640x480x4 (not "16", it's 16 /colour/, or 4 bit, not 16 bit (65536 colour, aka "thousands" or "high colour"))

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I just grabbed a ThinkPad R60 from someone for $5. It's in really good condition (about the same as pic related) and came with a cable and a battery that holds a charge for around 45-50 minutes. It has a strange problem where the wireless card causes it not to boot and doesn't work. I removed all sorts of parts when it was boot looping and removing the wireless card fixed it. I've been using Kolibri OS and Ubuntu MATE on it off of flash drives and it works fine, just no networking. Ethernet port is also busted. What do I do with this thing?

>>59882485
Yeah it is.

My new laptop is 1/5 the size of it and faster.

>>59904239
logick

>>59903588
>using Kolibri OS
>using
Kolibri OS is a tech demo

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>>59904637
Explain. You have exactly one post before I call you a fucking retard.

>>59903588
http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=101628

>>59905560
Retard.

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>>59905681
Fucking retard.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KolibriOS

>>59897699
Are you keeping up with the commodore

>>59905851
>falling for obvious bait
>calling others retard

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How about Doom on old Armada and a cash register monitor?

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>>59906434

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>>59879916

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>>59906445
Quake?

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>>59906455
How about Alley Cat?

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>>59906469
It's nice and crisp though

>>59906063
>I'm a fucking retard hurr durr
>lol I was only pretending
>joke is on you!
>drooling stick figure.png

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>>59906501

>>59883061
you do realize where you are right?

>>59901813
SO CUTE

>>59883061
Incredible b8. 10/10

I'm saving this one.

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>>59899898
>>59899981

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>>59907074

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>not going full analogic

Stay pleb

>>59907179
Was that the best example of an analog computer you could come up with? You know they do exist.

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>>59907116
let me try it

blur, then sharp

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>>59907179
>not glorious electromechanical
pleb

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=443B6f_4n6k

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>>59907416

>>59907416
Looks like a oil painting now, cool though

>>59907441
getting a smooth picture out of a 1-bit source takes a whole lotta blurring
i tried to minimize the amount of blur by doing it in a couple steps (which does give it a little bit of an "oil painting" effect)

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>>59907427

>Not steam powered computer
Go back to the ghetto

>>59907427
>divide by zero
>endless paradox loop

>>59907483
I want a steam powered computer that uses steam and valves as gates and not just as the power for turning gears

>>59883061
The number of responses to this post indicate it is correct.

>>59907549
>implying it isn't just counterbait

>>59883183
Using the word cuck unironically.

>>59882276
>T420
>retro

>>59907648
/tpg/ fags

>>59879916
Does anyone have a mid-90's Toshiba Libretto?

>>59887455
there's several on eBay for $400-500 anon, it can't possibly take you more than a week to save up for that, right? I could buy all of them right now and not even sweat it.

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>>59897699
notably missing from the family photo are the Plus4, and VIC-20.

>>59908123
I love those keyboard-case micro computers. Leaving that case style was a mistake.

>>59907977
those are just towers. I want the kb and monitor set.

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>>59908174
They never looked "machine" enough to me, same goes for most modern all-in-ones. I like everything discrete.

I've always had a soft spot for more compact designs like that though, like the TS1000 or Plus/4. Some Acorn designs are cool too.

>>59908174
I've always mildly wished that they made a few 8" desktop kind of machines, around Mac Plus size. (Maybe slimmer.), storing the hardware front-to-back instead of horizontally. I suppose it's pretty obvious why there's no market for an eye-strain machine that's either underpowered or overheating, though. Keyboard-case is a better compromise. (And really for practical portability mixture, laptop even better.)

>>59909843
Cooling is only an issue if the hardware runs too hot. A low power CPU like what's in a rPi would never run hot.

>>59909907
Yeah, but then it'd lean towards underpowered.
(Compromise isn't impossible, I just see why the idea hasn't really seen the light of day. Still, with a broken Mac plus case it could be fun.)

>>59895855
>>59896356
I don't know if you're still here, but what are the idle temps and what's the lowest one you achieved?

>>59909932
Only under powered for overly demanding software. RISC-OS is a full GUI OS and it goes like Greased Lighting even on a gen 1 Pi.

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>>59906434
oh man im jelly cus my Armada took a shit last year and i threw it away. bought it a few years ago from some guy, it had christian flash animations AND titty porn still on it.

>>59887941

mindblowing, if they had only known what they had back then

>>59883061
>an era you were never even a part of
youre retarded. the whole point of retro tech is nostalgia. do you know what nostalgia is?

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what currently is in my closet, the one on the left has never been used for more than an hour, also have

>>59912866
personally I'm mostly into it for the cool design, engineering and novelty, didn't really grow up around much of the stuff I collect

>>59912915
what's in them? wouldn't mind a cheap R5k one

>>59912915
How much did they cost?

>>59901951
Do you really have an old version of office installed? If so, what version and how well does it work?

>>59913322
not him, but I can tell you that that sidebar is from Office 97

>>59913289

on feebay you can get one working for 100-250$ if you really want one. I paid $60 for the one on the right years ago, and the other one with box, manuals, os, I paid $200 with shipping again like 5 years ago. Specs wise they are slow, lower R5K cpu, am going to upgrade its CPU and memory eventually.

>>59913199
if you keep looking you can find one for cheap but surprisingly the price of vintage hardware is actually going up, people collect these things.

also the overlays, foundation, application cd iso's are all online.

>>59913289
Not him, but average configurations usually were around $15,000, but they could go as low as $5,000 or as high as probably $20,000 or even more depending on what you wanted.

>>59909969
i still exist anon
it idles around 40 degrees
which is pretty hot IMO
when browsing it will sit just below 50 and sometimes go over, turning the fan on, but then it turns off shortly afterwards

>>59914153
That's not bad for a Northwood P4 with a small copper cooler that contributes to much of the weight of the laptop.

>>59895962
BECAUSE FUCK YOU, THATS WHY

>>59879916
New thread when?

>>59914532
here you go
>>59915227
>>59915227
>>59915227

>>59909776
You just have shitty taste