Unpopular messaging platforms thread.

>>59878744
I know cryptocat had some gaping security holes in it but I think the dev rewrote the app, not sure how secure it is now.

I've heard riot is a pretty good oss alternative to slack. Never heard of or used the other two.

>>59878744
Ricochet seems like a cool idea, I might try it out.

Does no one here have any opinions on things unless it's an Apple/Android or Intel/AMD bait thread?

I used matix (riot) and really liked it. The ui is pretty nice and it supports inline images. The only thing was that riot seemed to be the only good app for that protocol.

Right now i'm using a self hosted xmpp server for just me and my friends but I would be interested in other alternatives. Xmpp does not have great web clients and you cant sync chat history.

>>59880510
No, like every other board we like to fancy ourselves patrician in this pleb-patrician dichotomy we created, but it's all make believe.

how about https://jitsi.org

how is its crypto? it seems to be a larger project than cryptocat, does it mean it's had better auditing and is more secure?

>>59880664
Thanks anon. Was there something that you disliked about the Riot app?

>>59880712
This is a pretty good summation of the state of 4chan.

>>59880736
That website looks awful.

>>59878744
ricochet is pure trash desu

>>59880824
Why?

Wire master race.

>>59880881
Wire is probably a bit too popular to be included in this thread desu senpai.

>>59880806
Roit web and phone app are fine but the desktop app is just a wrapper for the web app which i didnt like.

>>59880935
Ah I see, that does indeed suck.

>>59880893
Really? Who uses it?

>>59880984
Maybe I'm wrong but a few of my contacts use use it, certainly more than Signal.

>>59878744
i read recently ricochet passed an audit, so i guess that's good. i think i tried riot once but it was an atom wrapper so i just deleted it. never used the other ones. plus i have no contacts to write to, so...

>>59880984
But sure, lets add Wire to this thread too then. Along with Signal.

>>59880984
Wire is always brought up as a good cross platform messenger.

>>59880664
Look into Message Carbons for syncing chat history. It's an XEP that's in Conversations and some other popular clients.

Nobody of the normies I am in contact with is interested in or uses something besides fb/wa/etc.

What I read about riot looks promising and would try it more if some of my usual contacts would join.

>>59878744
cryptocat had horrendous desynching issues when my friends last tried it. inevitably one person would be unable to receive messages from anyone else. they'd think the room was just dead the whole time, but we'd be able to see them freaking out. it was no good for group chat. as far as i could tell this issue never arose with 1v1 conversations

>>59882142
Interesting. How long ago was this? I know cryptocat was pretty much rewritten and rereleased earlier this year.

>>59878744
Riot is pretty nice.

I've never even heard of CoyIM. Anyone use it before?

And is ricochet just chat over tor?

As said already, XMPP with conversations on android or gajim on gnu/Linux is golden. Omemo encryption and a server which supports the latest xeps and the only thing you're missing is voice calling :/

>>59878744
crypto.cat was buggy shit written by a kid. A forgettable pioneer in user-friendly chat.
Riot.im is quite nice desu, works well on Android
coy.im I've never heard of, but XMPP is useless and bloated for today's needs
ricochet sounds potentially useful for some things, but I'm probably not going to try it

>>59878744
Using riot on self hosted server, works well on mobile and web but the server is fat as fuck. Barely enough ram for it on my rpi2.

>>59879096
>>59880664
>>59880824
>>59880949
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>>59882657
>>59883286
>>59883818

Cryptocat is literally shit.

It allows Remote Code Execution upon any that uses it, that's why it was rewrote.

Many people became infected just after their ip's were scraped while using it and trojans remotely installed

>>59878744
riot is great man

>>59883790
>>59883835
What's the verdict on cryptocat since it was rewritten? I know the dev got a ton of shit for the bugs present in the previous version but he seemed to address the criticism fairly transparently.

>>59883790
>but XMPP is useless and bloated for today's needs
Why do you say this?

>>59883835
Jesus, isn't the guy who wrote cryptocat in grad school or something?

>>59882966
>And is ricochet just chat over tor?
I believe so.

RIcochet (secure / tor relay) / Jabber - XMPP (Crypted with OTR) use that