Windows

>>59875651
Explain how W10 is inferior to W7 without mentioning the botnet meme or the arguably bad behavior of Windows Update, which is getting better.

>>59875699
ads in explorer

>>59875724
Never seen them. And they can be disabled apparently.

>>59875699
>Without mentioning shitty things
Better UI for straight desktop use. Does not force the install of any updates on any version, without having to tweak anything. No obtrusive ads in the middle of crucial UI elements. Control panel functions not awkwardly split between the 'classic' control panel and a UWP interface. No intrusive 'assistant'. No nagging for using browsers other than the bundled one. Much more useful Start menu search.

Honestly, most of the good points I could list for 10 are either features carried over from 8 or things that are improved relative to 8. 10 isn't a terrible OS in isolation, it's just a step backwards.

>>59875699
explain to me how fossil fuels are bad WITHOUT mentioning the environment or muh non-renewable resource

Because muh diversity.

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>>59875651
name the jew, blame the jew and when you're online just blame the jew

>>59875651
I used a win 8/10 theme in windows 7

Thank fuck for classic shell for 10 though, since search DOES NOT WORK on 10.

>>59875793
All these things either never get in my way or are changing, like the temporary Settings/Control panel split. Admittedly they did stupid things but I just find ths OS comfy and functional overall.

Anyway, install Gentoo, I guess.

>>59875699
> Arguably bad behavior of Windows update
> Argue with me but I'm blissfully ignorant to all windows problems

>>59875890
I said "arguably" because I never had any single problem with WU on W10, compared with the total crap it was on 8 and 7. This OS just werks for me.

>>59875884
No dude, no, listen. You really didn't want to find a file on your computer. What you REALLY wanted was a Bing search result for that. By the way, thought about using Bing with Edge? It's a winning combination for your Windows 10 Experience!

>>59875699
>Windows Update, which is getting better.
AAAHAHAHAHAAHA OH WOW!

>Cowardly Microsoft buries critical Hyper-V, WordPad, Office, Outlook, etc security patches in normal fixes
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/04/11/patch_tuesday_mess/

>>59875923
Im so fucking triggered right now i might turn into a hamplanet

And this is on a fresh reintall too, jesus fuck.

>>59875937
>HAHAHA WOW UR STUPID
>totally unrelated problem
How's this a WU problem ?

Windows 7 is the last Windows that I didn't have to fight for basic functionality. It actually feels like it's your OS rather than MS trying to shove its shit all up in your computer. It does what it's meant to.

>>59876009
while i agree, were fucked since theyre gonna block new shit more and more on 7, they want it to die more than they wanted XP to die.

>>59875651
I was in college when Windows 7 came out and I specifically remember it was hated like any other post XP Windows. It wasn't until SP1 came out and settled down when 7 became preferred. Microsoft didn't "nail" shit as a product.

>>59876077
XP was loathed on release too, anon. The day one reaction to a Windows is not reflective of its reputation.

>not xp

>>59876009
making 7 * 2 versions of 7 and vista was total mistake. and it's the sole reason why windows 8.1 is a better system as a whole. and desu i actually like W8 ui

>>59876234
Could you try that again in English?

>>59876283
he cant, niggers speak in niggerish

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>>59875699
I bet you are going to love this then:
itvisionDOTaltervistaDOTorg/why-windows-10-sucks.html

>use windows 8
>download classic shell
>forget that you have windows 8

I'm seriously considering reverting to windows 7. Windows 10 looks nice and all, but 2 hours worth of ricing can pretty much get you any look you want anyway. If the only benefit you can think of is a cleaner UI, then just fucking rice and get all the pros of not being a product for advertising agencies.

>>59877837
I just stuck Windows 7 onto a different partition of my Win 10 machine and I'm not sure I'm ever going to be booting Win 10 again, other than for a game or two.

>>59877350
>ignore the backdoor and just be a good goy

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>>59875699
Windows 10 is a piece of shit

>>59875699
>explain how its inferior without mentioning the primary things that are wrong with it
Top kek

>>59875699

Kiddies are just retarded. The whole botnet meme is laughable. Microsoft is doing the same thing as any internet company has been doing since late 1990s. Google, Yahoo and such get a free pass but as soon as Microsoft does it. It becomes "OMFG! YOU ARE DATA-MINING! TEH BOT-NET!"

Internet and meaningful privacy are mutually exclusive terms.

>>59875888
>All these things either never get in my way
Oh so that means since it doesn't get in YOUR way, then we're all retarded for having opinions

Pooinloos

>>59875699
UI is shit

Cortana is shit

Telemetry is shit

Boot into safe mode is WAY shit, Lets make it complicated as fuck by adding five extra steps, rather then legacy F8

start up options is shit

taskbar is shit

Edge is shit

start menu is shit and lists irrelevant shit rather then streamlined start menu

>>59875807
They aren't.

>>59875699
mixed classic and metro control panel, unresponsive start menu, flat ui meme with non-existent visual dividers and contrast in many places

I would never consider a MS operating system that wasn't at SP1 atleast.

Beta testing is for consumers

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>>59878716

YOU CAN TURN THIS OFF BUT WE WILL TURN IT BACK ON

let the W10 kids enjoy their macos lol

>>59875947
actually it works fine for me and I've been on w10 since it was released. What the fuck did you cucks fuck up so badly?

>>59875866
/pol/ get the fuck out

>>59875866
This

>>59880541
stop samefagging

>>59880553
Wrong. Literally just came into this thread

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>>59880573
Forgot pic

>>59878796
This, also greed.

>>59880301
You don't know much about technology if you can't even recognize the Jew's influence in it.

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I liked Windows 8 and the start screen.

>>59879359

Nice "Brave New World" and "1984" kiddo.

The genie left the bottle decades ago. The masses are just beginning to wake up to the unintended consequences.

>>59876077
Oh, no. I distinctly remember everyone shilling for 7 since the day it was released. The only thing I head people complain was the new task bar.
>>59876097
XP was a clusterfuck of an OS. People only started to like it because they fixed it by the time SP2 came out; Windows 10, on the other hand, gets worse with every update and they keep adding more useless "features" like paint 3D instead of dealing with the problems it has.

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all these people complaining about muh privacy while using chrome with 20 plugins in murica, land of the free™

>>59878716
No cash out of pocket for Google and the like. If MS wants to go down the same road then OS should be $0.

>>59880693
Which Jew are you referring to?

>>59880588
Fitting digits.

>>59882255
People here actually believe they can get privacy when they use proprietary software.

>>59875651
I would actually like 10 better if it didn't have forced updates and spyware.

>>59875699
>arguably bad behavior of Windows Update
>It actually resets your computer for updates, causing loss of data.
Fuck you.

>>59883064
back to pol you ugly racist pieace of shit.

>>59875888
>like the temporary Settings/Control panel split.

The question is, why split them at all?

MS "created" this problem back in Windows 8, and now they're acting like they're fixing this problem by getting rid of Control Panel entirely. It's retarded. They're still focusing on making Windows look like a tablet Fisher Price OS, just like they did with Windows 8. I seriously don't understand all the praise for W10...

>>59875699
kys

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>>59883336
>complaining about jew complainers
did you know you can also say NIGGER and FAGGOT

>>59878067
why even address this garbage
why eve talk about it

>>59875699
>W7
Literally just fucking werks, rock solid stability, compatible with pretty much everything, no botnet. What else could you ask for?

>W10
Fishe price UI, crashes all the time, slow, unstable, botnet, forced updates, not as compatible yet.

>>59875773
>Sign up to One Drive today and get free storage
Are you even using your computer? This shit pops up every day.

>>59878067
>control panel
Who even uses this?

>>59884220
Apparently you don't know how to use your computer, because it doesn't. I've never even seen that.

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>>59884287
What about having Onedrive in explorer?

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>>59884295
Where?

>>59884295
Can be removed. That's one of the earliest tweaks during release day back in 2015 when that one MS engineer posted here shilling LTSB N.

>>59884303
>Dvd drives
I did uninstall it but can't get it out of explorer ;-;
>>59884310

>>59884313
Virtual drives exist for loading .isos

>>59884313
Run tron and let it remove the win-10 garbage.
It should remove that no issue.
https://www.reddit.com/r/TronScript/comments/634782/tron_v1003_20170403_debloat_and_definition_updates/

>>59884327
Hahahahh fuck this is gay. I script to remove bloat from win10, named tron, from reddit. Aahahahahahhaha

>>59875699
The driver support on windows 10 for 5+ yo hardware sucks balls.

I just ordered parts for a Ryzen 7 build with a GTX 1070. I'm going to install Windows 7 on it, and also have a 100 GB partition for Linux Mint. Since I can't get fucking Windows Updates apparently I'll only boot into Windows for games

>>59884482
Thanks for blogging. No one cares.

>>59875651
Becuase the nailed it for your use case, but there are other use cases they want to target

>>59884327
>visiting plebbit
>believing in that garbage
You have to go back.

>>59880282
>fuck up
>install win10 on fresh ssd
>run updates, install chipset drivers, gfx card drivers
>reboot
>install a few programs
>oh firefox doesnt exist in microsoft world
>oh, mpc-hc doesnt either

>install classic shell
>it just fucking works.

should i upgrade from 7 to 10? its free but i also like not being killed by retroactive AIs.

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>>59885098
No. 10 is crap, even LTSB. Consumer versions of 10 are a total shitshow.

>>59884423
No it doesn't.

-t anon with several Core2 machines running Win10.

>>59885130
Telemetry exists on Windows 7...

>>59885098
No reason not to, all of the privacy invading telemetry exists on Win7 anyway - and you'll get better memory management and io perf to boot.

>>59885161
>Telemetry exists on Windows 7...
Only if you install any of these updates:

KB2952664
KB3021917
KB3068708
KB3080149
KB3184143
KB971033

>>59875699
>Explain how rape is bad without mentioning the victim's pain and suffering, the law, or STDs.

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>>59878796
>it's all shit
Gee, I wonder why?

>>59885130
>>59885180
thanks.

>>59884265
How the fuck are you supposed to uninstall programs if you don't use it you dumbshit?

>>59875699
No classic UI
le hamburger buttens everywhere

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>>59875651
>tfw i got to that age where i dont game anymore and im ready to make the full switch to loonix rather than deal with 10 when 7 dies

>>59875699
>ads, fucking ADS
>OneDrive, OneNote, Edge, Candy Crush whatever the fuck
>bugs
>settings scattered all over the place, TWO control panels
>can't disable DWM
>slightly worse performance

>>59877895
cool strawman

>>59885180
Why would anyone even bother with "security updates"?

>>59884482
you can't get updates for windows 7 if you have a ryzen 7

What was the minimal version of win7 /g/ was shilling awhile back? Was it win server 2008?

>tfw installed pirated Win7 in 2015 and disabled updates because pirated
>tfw completely clean version of Win7 with absolutely no bullshit
feels like bliss desu, I don't plan on switching in the next few years. I'd rather have security "risks" than being "attacked every day" by Win10's bullshit.

Is there any way to update Enterprise to Creators' without reinstalling the whole thing?

I tried the assistant route, but it doesn't work for Enterprise.

>>59885895
Is Windows 8.1 any better if one decides to eventually upgrade? How's software compatibility and stability?

>>59885921
I don't know because I'm still on Windows 7.
But as far as I understood, every new install on Windows 7 or later comes with nagging you to get Win10, with "telemetry", and whatever else spying shit they do.

>>59877350
I i had to use Windows, this would be what I'd do.

>>59885921
Win8.1 is ok, depends on what you like.

It's light on RAM and has some more modern things under the hood.

>>59876097
>XP was loathed on release too, anon.

No.jpeg

XP certainly had a few driver problems, but it was a pretty smooth upgrade from Win2K. And it kept getting better & fixes rapidly. Generally speaking, there were few reasons for people to migrate to XP at first. Most people migrated to XP by choice or stayed with it because that was what came on new computers and had little reason to back-migrate to Win2K.

You are thinking of Vista, which eventually got fixed, somewhat, around the time Win7 became as stable as XP. People spent Vistas original release life and the first year of Win7 back-migrating to XP.

The primary reason, even today, to move off XP is to move to a 64-bit platform. The secondary reason, nearly neck and neck with the primary, is gaymemers needing .... the 64-bit platform. It's only in the last two years or so that advanced multi-core/multi-thread integration of programs has become common enough and stable enough to really require 64-bit operating systems.

>>59882955
Maybe that's why the offered it for free

>>59885965
Has telemetry been introduced into Windows 8.1 by default or does it only appear in the form of "security updates"?

>>59886398

It's there by default from Win 8. Updates "enhance" the experience. Same for 8.1 but moreso, then you get it on steroids with Win10. Win7 has some telemetry, but mostly it's added in during updates (SEE >>59885180 and google around to avoid / uninstall).

If you want to avoid it "mostly" then go with Vista, which pretty much got patched & fixed to Win7 levels ... but it's no longer supported and is missing some unusual drivers for modern hardware. If you're running hardware from ~2 years & more ago, you'll probably get lucky. If you're running 2017 hardware, you're looking at Win10 or maybe Win7 if you're lucky. Pretty much no real reason to go with Win 8/8.1. If you don't care about botnet, better to just go with Win10 and figure how to control it as best you can.

>tfw they make it as hard as possible for you to install W7 with new hardware...

>>59886398
Get Win10 enterprise, use the policy editor to disable telemetry and updates. Do updates manually, when you want and choose.

Use the host file to block all suspicious IPs.

You can even disable the built-in DNS client Windows has that is supposedly bypassing the hosts file.

>>59886680
>enterprise

>>59875807
They're inneficient in various applications.

Windows 8.1 with classic shell is quite good and it's 100% better than 10.

>>59886224
xp is 64 bit

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>>59886680
>mfw when Windows requires more maintenance than a typical GNU/Linux install

If I really wanted to I could install a distro with telemetry, opt-in during install, then go through all these difficultires to disable it again.
Doing updates when I want is the standard behaviour, so I don't need to edit any settings through tools designed for experienced computer administrators.
I optionally can use my own hosts file to block IPs, or not do anything and keep my privacy anyway.
If the built-in DNS client is acting up I can replace it with anything I like, even though no existing DNS client would bypass my firewall without explicitly being told to do so.

feels good, man

>>59875699
Protip: you can't

How do you remove botnet from W10 for real? Firewall?

>>59875888
>temporary Settings/Control panel split
It's been split since Win 8 and there have been numerous updates and iterations of Win 8 and Win10 at this point. The UI is still random and not intuitive on Win 10. Try to be more objective.

>>59889201
You don't remove the botnet because it's baked in to every single version except some special rare case where it's a Chinese version for them to install their own botnet.

>>59887412
XP64 was the best running OS MS ever put out in my experience. Lack of drivers due to how late it was released was a major problem. I had mine boot off a mechanical drive fast enough that it seemed like a I had a hybrid/ssd drive installed. Small footprint little to no memory usage on a svelte installation.

>>59878716
>Not understanding a difference between free WEB services and PAID Operating System service
There is one thing to use service when you need it and at this point bexause it's free, fine, do your thing with tracking (still can avoid it).
But it's whole new story when it's a mutual thing like Operating System does that. You use it everytime you use computer. It's invading your territory. It should be your own business what you do with computer. Oh, did I mentioned that you also pay for OS? Jewest thing I know.
>Inb4 use other OS, like linux
Some people are dependent on ms bs

Here's the difference between mutual functionality (OS) and not so (Search engine, social media). My retarded little friend.

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>>59876077
>I was in college when Windows 7 came out and I specifically remember it was hated like any other post XP Windows

This is abject garbage. Windows 7 was heralded as a fucking success even in beta for how well it performed on hardware Vista punished and also by how stable it was. It rarely, if ever, crashed.

>>59875699
That's not possible. You really nailed it there.