Windows 10 requires you to uninstall Steam to continue using it

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>>59867599
Hahaha holy shit

>but you can reinstall them after the upgrade is done

wow it's fucking nothing

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>>59867599
dis good

>>59867599
Which update are you trying to install?

>>59867599
Steam uninstalling? Won't that remove the entirety of their steam library. I know when i made the mistake of uninstalling i thought it would just remove the client itself and not the entire installed game library.

>>59867610
You have to be the most heavily cucked Microshill I have ever seen

>>59867610
It saddens me that people like you still exist in this world.

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>>59867610
>A completely unrelated third party program must be removed to update windows 10
Sure thing pajeet. It totally has nothing to do with valves criticism of microsoft and trying to push linux more. Microsoft totally isn't going to use updates to silence programs they don't approve of.

Glad to see Microsoft taking out the DRM trash. Are they /our guy/?

Holy shit I was about to move to W10 for my Ryzen1600 build, thank god I'll stick to W7.
P.S: Does DX12 impact Ryzen a lot compared to DX11?

>>59867650
No, you can delete the entire Steam root folder and without losing your games as long as you leave "steamapps" untouched. The games will still be there when you reinstall Steam.

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>>59867610
>Just gonna keep using my shit OS
>It's okay that it does stupid shit I can just fix it!

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It works for me, dude

>>59867725
this

>>59867599
Wow. They just keep coming up with new ways of being terrible.

>>59867714
>It's okay that it does stupid shit I can just fix it!
It literally sounds like you're describing any gnu/linux distro

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>>59867599
>update to creators
>didn't prompt me that it was uninstalling anything
>steam works fine after update

works for me :^)

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>>59867599
hahahahaha
>this faggot browses /g/ and still hasnt installed shutup10 to defer upgrades until he pleases and block the rest of all the other bullshit

Worked without uninstalling Steam for me. If it's real, I would want to know what uninstalling Steam would even help it do

No it doesn't.

>>59867706
Depends on what GPU you are using. NVIDIA can't into DX12

>>59867794
RX 480

>>59867599
I didn't need to uninstall Steam just to update Windows.

I can't find any record of this anywhere else on the internet.

Seems like a fake by the OP

>>59867796
Then DX12 might be worth it

>>59867714
>It's okay that it does stupid shit I can just fix it!

so you mean Linux? Windows is still a trash OS but at least choose a better argument

>>59867599
>force removal of degenerate trash
good

>>59867599
so just reinstall them after the update?

>>59867599
I installed Creators Update today, and it didn't ask me to uninstall Steam.

You must have done something gay to your computer, OP.

The OP literally faked the image and baited everyone into this thread. It's fake news

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>>59867599
This is pretty much Microsoft today.

>>59867599
I'm using windows 10 pro and I disabled the update service no problem

>>59867953
He's just a time traveller.

This is because Microsoft's "feature" updates are fucking retarded and are actually full blown OS reinstalls. You loose all win32 installs because the registry is blown away.

What I'm more concerned about is my LTSB install is suddenly pushing creators update shit at me.

>>59867599
This means they want to protect their game profits. This means Microsoft now only makes profit on enterprise and gamers.

An ever shrinking company bound to one day fail. I cannot wait until that day.

>>59867610
Until you must continually do it after every update. Also, if they do this, imagine one day it being much worse. Come over to Linux already, nigger.

windows 10 threads need to be banned from /g/

>>59868004
Not the Windows 10 thread denouncing Windows, jackass. We need to only ban positive Windows threads.

>>59867762

Thanks nigel

>>59867599
I don't belive Microsoft is this retarded. Any link ?

>>59867814
Remove my privacy worth it?
Just curious.

>>59868081
No, at least not so far

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>>59867599
How does Microsoft keep fucking up so bad? All they had to do was tweak 7, new direct x support, throw a black gaymen skin on it and normies would have shelled out hundreds for it.

>>59867825
Windows 7 is still a better alternative to 10.

>>59868152
Well firstly this is a fake screenshot and story.

Secondly, 'subscription service','cloud', and 'advertising platform' were the buzzwords flying around microsoft's board meetings.
They saw the money around targeted adverts and decided they wanted some of that, so they are turning windows into a platform for collecting information and delivering ads.

Expect over the next few years for the transformation of windows to be into a facebook-like advertising platform as a subscripton service, putting more shit online, integrating with microsoft clouddrive so that people can't just quit their service and go to linux.

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>>59867796
Stick with 7/8.1 or dual boot into linux. After trying it out I'm not touching windows 10 and their updates, their updates are full OS reinstalls so fuck that noise.

>>59867599

What's the technical reason for this?

>>59868489
see this: >>59867969

>>59867599
Nice try, ghost of Jobs

>>59868081
You're aware that almost all of Win10 telemetry is already backported to the Win7? If your Win7 installation is up to date then you have forfeited your privacy a long time ago.

>>59868545
Removable on 7.
Can't remove on 10.
There are enough paranoids out there with offline installers for 7 and even 8.1.

>>59867599
fake news

This must be some insider build shit, I'm using a 10 laptop with steam on it right now and just checked for updates again. nothing.

10 still sucks though

>>59868004
You need to be banned from living, shit for brains.

>>59867669
Why, can't handle the fact that everyone is as fucking retarded as you?

>all these fucking retards falling for op's bullshit

You all deserve to be gassed.

>>59867599

wut

i just did the update and didn't have to do this shit

>>59867761
>>59867825
No, it sounds like he's describing Windows you fucking faggots.

>>59867599
It's good that I can choose when to upgra-

Oh..

>>59867706
Yes.
Many games don't use anything but dx12.
Windows 10 is better than 7/8 in everyway.
The only complaints valid about it are also valif of 7/8. So either stop using Windows or don't be a faggot and use the moet up to date version.
>>59868067
Really anon? You need a source instead of just blindly believing every antiwindows10 post? Please just blindly believe op like the rest of these retards

Why am I still running 1607 with no prompt to update?

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>>59867599
>You can't continue to use W10 without updating
you are retarded.

>>59867674
it's not completely unrelated though. Steam relies on plenty of Win32 code.

>>59867997
Yes, Linux, where all the games are. I love linux and I use it every day at work, but when I come home I wanna just boot my pc and play games at the best graphical settings and have the best experience practically possible. A multitude of issues prevent this on linux.

>>59869085
>Many games don't use anything but dx12.
AFAIK there are 6 such games, all of which have Halo, Gears or Forza in the title.

>>59867599
>using some old version of steam that has been tested as having compatibility issues with the windows 10 update
>surprised they won't let you update windows 10 and get app crashes because you're retarded

>>59869129
Because the feature update hasn't been rolled out yet. You can only get it if you download the installer.

>>59867761
the difference is that in linux you actually can fix it, in windows you have to just deal with it

>>59867599
Finally a good change. Steam is pure cancer that cucks their zombie users.

>>59867599
>1334 games in library on windows
>436 games in library on linux
only reason i don't go full blown linux in my gaming rig
and to be specific: no arkham on linux

i had to literally format this piece of shit, and install clean, because the update fucked up everything, even the recovery
during 30minutes aprox i had a literal thinkpad brick

the media creation tool does not create a gpt enabled USB (yes, in current year)
i had to create a gpt enable pendrive using Rufus and the ISO

>>59869085
>Windows 10 is better than 7/8 in everyway.
I am using it and this is literally not true. It's a buggy piece of shit.

>>59867599
>stop playing video games

>poeple using w10
oh I must've switched tabs at some point, I was pretty damn sure I was browswing gee and not vee

>>59867634
If i had to guess it's probably the big creators update.

>>59867610
Bruh when was the last time an operating system MADE you arbitrarily uninstall non-vital software that didn't touch any operating system files? Why would you even need to remove it in the first place?

>>59867980
>game profits
What games do they even sell? literally there's like 5 modern games that can only be exclusively bought on le windows store.

>>59867599
>tfw not using based GOG

also >steam
>>>/v/

>>59867599
Regarding Steam: I was reinstalling my Windows and did not want do redownload games.

I ran Steam.exe from the folder, it asked to run steamservice.exe as admin and it's working fine since then without installation&redownloading.

>>59870400
Oh yeah Steam crashes are Windows 10 fault. What about letting developers know what incompatibilities you are introducing beforehand? There is a CS1.6 site with own anticheat which never worked since first major update because MS never warned about removing needed functionality.

>>59867599
>Windows
Found your problem

>>59867610
>having to uninstall a completely unrelated third-party application to update your fucking operating system
>said application is made by a company that tried to distance itself from windows
what a coincidence
it's not like they want to annoy steam users or anything

>nonfree software requires you to uninstall nonfree software to update nonfree software
kek

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>>59867669
>literally tirty secs of install and some clicks its something to worried about
oh right
ubuntufags need memorize and enter thousand of codecs to install a single program lol

>>59870898
They don't, codecs are installed by default. Have fun installing your mediapack, steam and 45 other applications at each update, dumb weebshit

>Installed on 3 different PCs already
>Never seen this
Not sure if this thread says more about how gullible you retards are or how shit Microsoft is that people could believe it.

>>59870446
>in windows you have to just deal with it
Regardless of if it's fake, how "you can reinstall afterward" is not "fixing it"
Also policy editor???

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I love fake news and I cannot lie.

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Yesterday I upgraded both of my machines that both have Steam on them, no problems at all

>>59867827
>implying the update uninstalls Windows

>>59870603
>browsing /v/
unironically kill yourself

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>>59868067
>I don't belive Microsoft is this retarded.

>>59867808

Are you trying to tell me that people get on the internet and lie? I think you're on to something. Thanks for letting us know.

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>>59867599
Why people use this piece of shit OS I shall never know.

Imagine: everyone that is mildly pissed off at the atrocious Windows 10 switched back to Windows 7 (i.e. the last good Windows) - what the fuck would Microsoft do? Probably take the fucking hint.

>>59867599
When windows 10 came out i heard a rumour that ms is going to slowly make steam unusable on windows 10 so that people would just start buying games from windows store.

>>59871213
One word:

Normalfags.

>>59867599
Not much they can do about Nvidia, but Valve actually are paying a bunch of people to work on the AMD drivers.
A Valve employee just submitted patches the other day for GL_ARB_bindless_texture one of the last big features needed for AZDO on the open drivers.

>>59871217
That is not a rumor, it is a guess on Microsofts policy based on their modus operandi. It should surprise nobody if this turns out to be the case.

>>59867714
>It's okay that it does stupid shit I can just fix it!

Linux in a nutshell

>>59867599
werks fine for me

>>59871217
>>59871261
It has already started with Universal Windows Platform (UWP).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Windows_Platform

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>>59867599
>"m-m-muh gayemz!"
>the OS made for games won't let you play games
You can't even make this shit up anymore. Not even macfags get fucked this hard on the software end of things. Winfaggots on literal suicide watch.

>>59867725
Wallpaper?
Please?

>>59867706
He is lying. I literally updated last night and nothing had been deleted.

You computer should require you to uninstall Windows before you can use it

I haven't used a Windows OS since Windows 98.

>>59867610
And this, my friends, is why microsoft will never die. Their fanboys are so stockholmed that they will literally defend anything microsoft does, even if it's against their best interests. Gg anon, you are braindead.

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>>59871626
>And this, my friends, is why microsoft will never die. Their fanboys are so stockholmed that they will literally defend anything microsoft does, even if it's against their best interests. Gg anon, you are braindead.

Agreed. Look what happened when people revolted against Vista: we got Windows 7.

By putting up with and making excuses for Windows 10, people have allowed Microsoft to rape them more and more every day and they ask for more. It's your grave Windows 10 users.

>>59871758
Windows 7 is barely better than Vista. It's pretty much the same OS with a facelifted UI and a couple of patches.

The real thing that made Windows 7 go over better was that between Windows vista release and Windows 7 release, most people upgraded to computers that were slightly beyond utter toaster tier.

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>windows collects shitton data on your hardware
>cant optimize updates to your piece of metal junk running 1s and 0s to make them smaller
>Microsoft placing datacenters underfuckingwater

who the fuck runs this shit company?

MacBook doesn't have this problem

>>59871837
I got 99 problems but a macbook aint one.

>>59871758
People revolted against W8 and ms put back the windows start button :^)

>all these retards not knowing why programs need to be uninstalled before the "update"
These so called "updates" are actually a brand new version of the OS, and not just a service pack.

In other words, installing the update is essentially a clean install, but Windows does all the work for you.
That's why you have a fucking windows.old folder after it's done. It's as if you upgraded to a completely different version of windows.

Fucking morons not knowing the workings of the OS they're using annoy the shit out of me.

>>59871824
CIA and NSA.

>>59867599
No it doesn't. You can turn off updates in win10 I haven't updated or been forced to "shutdown (update)" for more than 5 months.

>>59872013
>Would you like to get fucked now or fucked later?

>>59871955
>It's as if you upgraded to a completely different version of windows.
Except it's not completely different, it's just a retarded update process.

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>>59867599

>>59871837
MacBook is a problem in itself.

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>>59871449
Not Op.
Google image search Anon.

>>59867674
Steam relies on a lot of WinAPI functionality and this isn't weird at all, please stop, you're embarrassing yourself.

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>>59867599
Don't update?

There's people out there that actually leave Windows updates on?

>>59867674
>Silence programs
But like the other anon said, you can just reinstall the program afterwards (if you really REALLY need that totally essential windows update)

>>59872055
Not him but, not the same anon. Which you could clearly see if you opened your eyes

Uninstalling steam deletes all your steam games, you fucking retards

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Winfags on suicide watch

>>59867599

That's because that Steam installation has out of date dependances that aren't compatible with "Creator's Edition".

>>59867768
Not OP but I never know about this. Thanks for the tip. I had updates off but that doesn't stop the shilling machine from asking me

>>59867599
how to kill your company, part 23 of ???

>ITT: shit that is not real

>>59872153
It doesn't.
I updated to creators yesterday, nothing showed up.

>>59869085
>Many games don't use anything but dx12.
Name 5 popular games that use dx 12.

Good Luck.

>>59872035
>Except it's not completely different, it's just a retarded update process.
Yes, you're correct, but the point still stands that it's still basically a clean install, which is why some programs need to be "uninstalled" before proceeding.

What the OP's article should have stated is:
>"Windows 10 doesn't install back Steam after it updates".

>>59872179
name 2 good games that use dx12, that's the real challenge

>>59867610
it's still a huge fucking inconvenience with no valid reason behind it

and there's the possibility that microsoft's tactic is as such
>force users to do this shit
>all those who use steam will just sigh and reinstall it
>all those who have it installed but don't use it much probably won't bother
>those people (probably console plebs) will just get games from MS store since it's already built-in
>MS steals like 2% market share from Valve

it's no coincidence that this shit is happening rather after MS store implemented self-serve refunds too

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>>59872192
>MD
>ROTR

checkmate.

>>59872233
Literally who?

>>59872168
lolno. See >>59867610

Wincucks will defend everything their company does

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>>59872233
>neo deus ex
>neo lara
>good games

>>59872190
>the point still stands that it's still basically a clean install
Yeah, because of retardation on MS's part.

OP's title is accurate and reasonable.

>>59872233
Both are DX11 games.

>>59872172

I had no problems, but the OP might have been running an older version of Steam on their system.

It is all tied to legacy dependances that have known compatibility issues.

>>59867599
>"we"

>>59867762
>>59871941
>using the smiley with a carat nose

You made me check, you faggot.

vermin pls go back you keep ruining every board
you've already made a fool of yourselves with that gamergate nonsense

>>59870898
Steam deletes the game library when uninstalled. That is its default behaviour. You can back up the game files and import them but it'll still have to check and validate them and it takes a long fucking time. So go be idiot somewhere else.

>>59872670
>validate them and it takes a long fucking time
No it doesn't lol

>>59870898
i use ubuntu and never had to install any codecs manually, are you a bellend

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>>59872521
>NOT using the smiley with the carat nose

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>>59867599
Werks on my machine

What kind of PCs you cucks have that Windows is creating so much problems for you?

>>59867599
That never happened to me little fella; updated without any issues.

>>59872775
They're the self-proclaimed "power users" who download and install a bunch of random shit from the net to rice their desktops, "disable" telemetry, and shit like that. They fuck their PCs up and then blame Microsoft when it all goes pear-shaped. You can tell because this clown has even riced his Steam UI.

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>>59871821
>Windows 7 is barely better than Vista

Nah, Windows 7 was vastly better than Vista.

>It's pretty much the same OS with a facelifted UI and a couple of patches

It's pretty much just like any other piece of software then? Wow, how perceptive of you.

>The real thing that made Windows 7 go over better was that between Windows vista release and Windows 7 release, most people upgraded to computers that were slightly beyond utter toaster tier

Nah. Run Vista and then 7 on the same hardware and 7 will run much better.

Windows 7 was, and still is, the best consumer OS Microsoft ever released.

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>>59872042

>>59872114
>Implying Microsoft wont use this as an Excuse to uninstall Programs they dont like automatically

>>59867725
4-color positional dithered miku -> excellent taste!

>>59873146
I HAVE run Vista and 7 on the same hardware. Literally runs the same. The only way you'll notice any differences is if you run release time Vista and release time 7. Vista is slightly worse in that case, because it's missing a couple of good patches, but the difference isn't day and night and it's not a fair comparison either because Vista had those patches by the time 7 released.

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>>59873238
>I HAVE run Vista and 7 on the same hardware

So have I. Using old hardware that was released at the time when Vista was new, I re-visited both operating systems a couple years back. Both fully patched and up to date and 7 always was the clear winner. Perhaps you were using newer hardware which masked the difference.

>>59873286
In that screenshot you have a LOT of margin of error benchmarks. If you were getting benchmarks results like that between 7 and Vista, it's the same deal. Sometimes I have like 5% between short benchmarks on the same hardware and same OS.

If your difference was that small, it's margin of error.

On a related note, the summary on that chart is retarded and I have serious questions about the methology on those benchmarks where there is a 20% deficit from 7 to 8 on the same driver.

>>59873171
Are you gonna eat that soup?

>>59867610
This is the only rational statement in this thread. The rest are a bunch of faggots clutching their pearls and crying that the sky is falling

>it's another "someone posts unsourced screenshots and /g/ falls for them" thread

>>59868465
VM (KVM+QEMU) with GPU Passthrough > Dual boot
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37D2bRsthfI
Problem is you need hardware that supports it, I was lucky that my i7 4790 had an iGPU I wasn't using which supports VT-d so I have access to 2 GPUs without having to resort to buying a second dedicated GPU.

Performance penalty is so minimal you won't notice it, even managed to get the HTC Vive running in a VM without issue. Along with any other windows applications that you cannot run on linux reliably.
Once you have it up and running it is beautiful. I've always wanted to mess around with a linux distro of choice as my host OS, now I open up windows like I would any other program without worrying as much about restarting for updates and spying since most of my activity is on the host OS, while windows is mostly used for playing games.

>>59873436
>In that screenshot

I like how you neglect what I said in my post and focus on the image which is only semi-related to what I said at best. Perhaps I should have used no image, hmm. Anyway, I didn't create the image. You also focus on 5% as a margin of error. And? Some gamers wet themselves if they get a 3% increase in fps so, whatever.

>On a related note, the summary on that chart is retarded and I have serious questions about the methology on those benchmarks where there is a 20% deficit from 7 to 8 on the same driver.

What are these questions? It isn't hard to run a series of tests where the only deciding variable(s) is the OS and drivers.

>>59867610
If you reinstall steam it wants to reinstall all your games aswell. A considerable pain in the ass when you have over 70 installed games averaging on about 5gb each.

Why do lincucks bash windows on such small ""issues""?
Literally get a life my dudes

>>59868177
>Expect over the next few years for the transformation of windows to be into a facebook-like advertising platform as a subscripton service, putting more shit online, integrating with microsoft clouddrive so that people can't just quit their service and go to linux.
disgusting, I wouldn't put it past them

>>59867599
>If only Valve wasn't complete shit and made a Linux distro that wasn't total garbage and kicked the shit out of AMD and NVidia to write some motherfucking drivers.
What's wrong with Arch Linux?

lets talk about real issues with 10. ugly lockscreen you can't disable and ads in explorer that can be disabled but still suck ass. also all the botnet stuff

>>59867599
I literally just updated my desktop to Creators yesterday and Steam is fine. Have you updated Steam at all?

>>59873914
Arch is a joke distro which is made to teach schoolkids CLI, it's never employed in production by serious companies. Every developed distro has a minimal installer up to installing an OS from a chroot environment, for example Ubuntu Core or debootstrap, schoolkids don't know about it, they think that there's only a GUI installer in Ubuntu and Debian.

Gentoo is a professional distro with a high level of flexibility through the robust established compilation toolchain, the unified interface for compilation flags in the portage system, good tools for kernel compilation. For example Google uses Gentoo as a base for Chrome OS.

To cut long story short, Arch is for pajeets who can't manage their time but who want to show that they know CLI, Gentoo is for professional engineers who want a reliable and flexible system.

>>59873920
Windows is beyond saving. Fuck that shit. I'm comfy with Ubuntu GNOME here.

>>59873949
>it's never employed in production by serious companies
Wait, what companies needs Steam?

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>>59867599
>he doesn't know how to disable automatic updates in Win10

>tfw I never have to uninstall anything to update windows 10

>>59873981
valve
game companies

>>59867599
lol this isn't true

>>59867599
updated win10 without any steam removal
you're full of shit OP, gtfo FUDposter

Maybe you should stop playing games manchild

>>59867725
>>59867599
What's with the different Steam interface?

>>59871975
>Trannies and Bronies
ftfy

>>59867599
Literally didn't happen on my machine

>>59874214
It's a steam skin. Google Metroforsteam

>won't update until you uninstall steam
Nice, then you can finally prevent Windows 10 from updating itself all the time. Just keep Steam installed. What are they gonna do, uninstall it without your consent?

>>59874281
>uninstall it without your consent?
They already install software without your consent and remove anything they think is pirated software without your consent.

>>59874295
>removing anything that's pirated software
My torrented ms office still werks

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>>59867674
Youre projecting again pajeet

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>>59871392
edgy

>>59874295
This is a lie. Windows Defender is just overzealous on what it defines as malware, and tends to remove cracks because they're unsigned software and look like malware. This isn't limited to pirated content, even real, non-pirated games can trigger it.

>>59867610
>wow it's fucking nothing
It's a pain to get a new steam install to find games installed under an old install. Sometimes steam finds libraries just fine, other times it wants to redownload large chunks of the game for no reason.

>>59872679
Not everyone has only three indie games, some of us have real games

>>59873589
How long did it take you until everything worked as expected? I'll try this when I switch my main computer over to linux, but at this point setting up KVM + QEMU seems pretty daunting to me.

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I never have 99% of the problems that /g/ posts about W10.

>>59867599
I just installed the Creator's Updates (1703) on all my personal devices and it didn't require me to uninstall anything. Sounds like you have some weird proprietary drivers or something, anon

>>59875127
That's because /g/ is full of dumbfucks that think it's normal to spend 3 weeks configuring Arch to make the fonts not render like shit, but screech at the top of their lungs if you tell them "just change one setting" to make windows stop doing something

>>59872477
>OP might have been running an older version of Steam on their system.
Steam automatically updates on every start, so about the only way to be running an older version is if it were left open for weeks or months, then closed without launching again.

>>59875096
I am slow, took me 2 days to get it all working the way I want. Less to get it to do something. Once you figure it out once much easier to setup later.
It is duanting, same deal when I started but just dived head in after a week on and off hesitating and reading about it online.

My only gripe is that passing the dedicated GPU back from guest to host is a pain with NVIDIA.
Read of people managing to do so with AMD cards, with NVIDIA there is one way I haven't bothered trying which involves using 2 instances of X server.

Ideally I want to be able to have my iGPU run my portrait monitor on host OS always, while the dGPU switches my main 4K display between guest and host OS automatically.
Currently this does not seem possible, I have to keep dGPU tied to guest VM can't pass it back to host with the iGPU.

Will switch to Wayland once it supports GPU hotplugging. Not going to deal with this clusterfuck now, I just run another linux distro as a VM and pass the GPU to it if I want to do anything intensive.
Haven't found any need to desu famalam, except perhaps later when I start tweaking MPV to use dGPU since I currently use HD4600 with mpv on a 4K display, no bueno.

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>>59867599
>MFW MICROSOFT ARE KEKING THIS FAGGOT HARDCORE

>>59867599
Proprietary fags will defend th...oh wait...>>59867610

Since not everyone is seeing the message, we should ask why only some do. The upgrade process requires at least 10gb of free space. Perhaps people with less than that are being prompted to uninstall programs that are taking up lots of disk space so there will be room for the upgrade to proceed.