United Airlines has a little problem....

>>59856979
who care

>>59856997
the hacker man 4Chan

>>59856979
Let me know when you've exported and dropped tables of sensitive information

>>59856979
put a .ssv somewhere once you get it all

>>59856979
You should report the issue to United AIrlines for free flights around the world.

>>59857052
>free flights

As long as they're not overbooked.

>>59856979
>find sensitive stuff
>threaten them that you will release it
>get free flights/bitcoins/ whatever
>???
>profit

DON'T PUNCH ME BRO

>>59856979
That """doctor""" was a cunt. He got what he deserved.

>>59857219

Thank you for your effort, about $3.50 has been deposited in your account

>>59857104
You forgot the "release it anyway after getting the money" part.

>>59857253
Meh, I'm not from the US. Never even flown on United. But I respect private property and when someone tells me to GTFO off their plane, I do it.

>>59857274
Time and a half payment $4.75 has been deposited into your account.

>>59857274

Yep you're right, but the first step is to find the fucking page... lol i did not find it yet

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>>59857274
*pets you*

>>59857274
good cuck

>>59857274

Stopping him from boarding would be one thing. Overselling, letting people board and then letting a pseudo-RNG decide a customer should get royally fucked over because the company's policies are terrible is all fine and dandy to you because you 'respect private property', then? Because I like to think I do the same, but the law is on the doc's side.

>>59857274
everyone in the us acts entitled, feeling like they own and are owed everything. it's pretty disgusting.

>>59857219
>>59857274
>2017
>being an edgy contrarian

please...

>>59857219
He also traded scripts for gay sex

>>59857274

>pay for flight
>need to be somewhere
>get kicked off for zero real reason
>"T-THANK YOU UNITED AIRLINES, GOD BLESS AMERICA PLEASE DRAG ME OUT I LOVE FREEDOM SO MUCH HFBDHFBHFBSF"

Neck yourself.

>>59856979
What's that program called?

>>59857430
he should have read what he was agreeing to when he purchased his ticket. he could have always used a different airline if he didn't like those terms of use

>>59857065
kek

>>59857104
if you try to do that they'll fix it and have you barred from all their alliance's flights in the future

>>59857430
>get asked to leave, while being compensated $800 and given another flight for free
>act like a child and refuse while claiming you have patients to see
>in reality you aren't even a doctor because you lost your license due to trading prescriptions for gay sex

>>59857327
It's not like every airline does this.
Oh wait they do
Also they compensated the other passengers that they asked to leave and offered him even more money than them to give up his seat.
I would get on the next flight for $1000.

>>59857676
Hey you're making it seem like gay sex isnt good

>>59857619
This thing about the "terms of use" making a company able to legally kick you off a plane for arbitrary reasons is false, and has already been debunked many times in these days with documents and interviews to lawyers. Anyway feel free to provide a link to the "terms of use" and to quote the part that you think covers the company, i'm really curious.

>>59857676
Personal attacks indicate a lack of substantial arguments

>>59857274
But he paid for that seat, he hat privatly obtained the right to use that property.

>>59857749
t. childish homofag

>>59857773
Whatever makes you feel good, grown straight man

I think they have much bigger problems given they just knocked out and dragged a customer off s plane pissing everyone else off in the process

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>>59857065

>>59857676
it was 800 in flight vouchers you mong, they don't give you cash, that's why no one wanted to get off
go bait somewhere else

>>59857013
Who is this 4chan

>>59857065

Or if they're correctly booked and they just arbitrarily decide their staff take priority.

>>59857619
Term of use don't overrule normal laws. A company could add "owes us one billion for not booking all their flights with us" and it'd be worthless as shit.

>>59857703
>I would get on the next flight for $1000.
Because you're a poorfag.

>>59857274
C U C K
U
C
K

>>59857966
How hard can it be to sell as many tickets as you have sits and considering your own staff in the calculation?

Always funny to see so much support for someone who acted like a fucking child. Everyone there acted badly, the company, the autist doctor and the rest of the passengers who not a single one offered to go instead of the doctor.

>>59857587
Vega scanner

>>59857990
Reminder that there are people unironically defending United (check >>>/pol/120752185).

>>59858006
this anon makes a point, if everyone pitied the doctor so much why did no one get their fat asses off their seats and onto the next flight?

>>59857327
They didn't even oversell.
They just wanted to transport some of their own staff to a city that was a few hour drive away.

>>59858006
>>59858065
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_customer_is_always_right

>>59858064
>/pol/ defends the jews
Really makes you ponder.

>>59858104
I know anon but i was just saying, if everyone wanted to help so badly they could have given their seat to the doctor even if the Airline was at fault and the situation should have never happened

>>59857274
Go back to >>>/pol/

>>59858118
>just bow down and nothing will happen, goy!
You are the textbook definition of a cuck!

>>59858148
STOP REPLYING TO TRIPFAGS!

>>59857958
a man who caused 9/11

>>59858148
???
I love /pol/ too anon, but try rereading my post
>>59858152
(You)

>>59858118

Exactly. But we live in a society of "activists" that the only thing they do is to pop up their smartphone and record the altercation while pretending to be pissed off. A bunch of fucking hypocrites.

Also, as I said, the doctor acted like an autistic child, what did he expect?

>>59857274
look at this cuck and laugh

>>59858027
Thank you

>>59858167
I know anon, "Please KILL ME" and "I habe to go hom" aren't the proper way to handle the situation. He could've calmly stated that he was a Doctor and needed to work the next day. They could've gotten a translator

Reminder to filter out tripfags, /g/.

>>59857990
Airlines actually overbook every flight as a few people dont show up or miss it and dont get a refund. Usually it isnt a problem but sometimes people show up and dont leave. Usually they're given a new ticket for the next flight and sometimes they get dragged out

>>59858190
I dont get the whole overbook thing in the fact that if they sell 130 tickets for 130 seats, and only 1 shows, then they have still covered expenses. The seats are paid for.

It's blatant (to me) that they are using some asinine law to extract maximum profits.

Hell in the US alone, air carriers expect to make 18b USD this year.

http://www.iata.org/pressroom/pr/Pages/2016-12-08-01.aspx

>>59858190
>Have to take 2 flights to go from whateveristan to farlandtown
>You get booted from the first flight
>B-but you're given another one and some money
>Miss the second plane anyway, sometimes, if the company is shitty, you don't even get a refund for it
>you get to stay in a hotel with your belongings already on vacation and the basics to survive.
>You also lose the booked day you had on your destination
>All of this because some shitty company overbooked their flights and someone didn't cancel.
>Considering said company has only refunded about 30% and got paid again for the same seat
>This is ok according to /pol/

>>59858253
Whatever makes money

>>59858190
>>59858253
Yeah I don't get the complacency about this. When I take my family on vacation, I only have so much time, and I've got resorts booked for certain days. I don't have fucking days to blow ever, let alone on vacation (the only time I fly). I would be incensed if I had to leave a plane with my wife and kids still on board, or all of us layed over for one day. Fucking losing one day of life? Do people really not value the most important resource for humans?

>>59858280
>Fucking losing one day of life?

Says the dude posting on a vietnamese ping pong board. The irony

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>>59858253
this whole thing is not about overbooking. its about SJW want to turn it on the company for being racist

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>>59858357
Oh look, it's the SJW-hate meme leaking from /pol/ again!

>>59858357
>implying this would've happened were he white

>>59858364
so you actually like SJWs?

lel get cucked

>>59858357
Chinks are fucking awful and I'm glad he got kicked off instead of a white person
Just look at chinese tourist videos and chinese "roadkills" to understand how awful their entire society it.

Too much bait being thrown around in here.

>>59858373
>implying a white person would act like a 2 year old

>>59858280
Its pretty bullshit. If you fly first class i think the seats are guaranteed but still thats shitty. If you also show up on time you most likely wont miss it

Also
>>59858339
This

>>59858388
this

>>59858380
>injustice is a good thing

>>59858394
>implying he was wrong

>>59858415
>implying he was wrong
he WAS wrong

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>>59857412
>tfw it turns out all the dirt (((they))) tried to dig up on the good doctor was literally some other old Asian guy with almost the same name from Kentucky.

Guy's gonna get a big settlement when everything is over

>>59858064
Some people love to have opinions that stand out after all. Hence /pol/, antivaxxers and flatearth idiots.

>>59858167
>pop up their smartphone and record the altercation
Is a lot more useful given he'll get couple millions instead of pathetic 800 bucks for it. Have you missed the election? Social media is serious business.

>>59858190
Sounds like a pretty risky strategy that's bound to cause problems. I don't recall ever being in an overbooked plane after almost two decades of flying at least twice per year. Yuropoor though and never went to the states.

>>59858442
United shareholder detected.

> that autistic screeching before he gets knocked unconscious and dragged off

>>59858451
I dont know if eu does it. Plus you would only notice it if it happened to you

>>59858357
So what? I despise SJW and identity politics, but they are children to be guided towards the correct goals.
Besides, you can use your enemy to take the blows for you and win your battles. No big deal.
>>59858388
>I saw a few videos of Chinamen doing stupid things so that's how they all are.
I bet you also think all the Germans are Nazis, all Americans are trigger-friendly bootlicker hillbillies.

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Wooow. /pol/ really is the cuckold board.

Cuckueen takeover once again when???

>>59858442
Fuck off, paid shill.

> Airlines sell the same ticket to multiple people
> This is somehow legal
Remember the 6 hexilion goy

>>59858486
>Americans are trigger-friendly bootlicker hillbillies
Where is the lie?

>>59858223
>I dont get the whole overbook thing in the fact that if they sell 130 tickets for 130 seats, and only 1 shows, then they have still covered expenses. The seats are paid for.

They'd make more money then by refunding that 1 guy who showed up, and cancelling the flight altogether. There's a reason why they have this calculation (reason being "more money").

>>59858104
This is wrong. Not in my shop. If you are wrong or annoy me, you can fuck off. We have enough customers to live like that and it will never change.

>>59858488
>M00t being so butthurt that /pol/ discovered he was a cuck that he ragequitted and left that cuckolding Tina thing as revenge.
Glorious days.

>>59858493
>whoever doesn't have the same opinion with me is a paid shill

>>59858517
That's unamerican.

>>59858486
>So what?
their political correctness is hurting everyone

>>59858520
I don't think i'll ever witness something as great as a cuck cucking cucks ever again in this place.

>>59858510
This is just doubling down on the zionism. They already made a profit by selling a full plane and didn't refund a thing.

>>59858535
Right, that is germany.

>>59858557
>and people here bitch about Apple
How the fuck can customers tolerate this fuckery?

>plan vocation
>have limited time
>buy a ticket and book a hotel like a normal person
>get cucked by your airline
>waste time and money despite not doing a single thing wrong

>>59858544
They'll keep doing it no matter what, so why not direct their efforts towards a more adequate cause? We can always slap their hand when they try to get their hands in our nerd virgin shit.

>>59857676
Also, regardless of how much they offered, in whatever means (vouchers, cash, etc.) he had paid for that exact flight, THAT flight, which means that no other flight could replace the one he was in, the only acceptable offer they could've made was to move him to a flight that was as immediate as the one he was in. He did pay for a flight ticked, he paid for that flight ticket. Now please go be 12 somewhere else

>>59858544
> political correctness
Does anyone even agree on what it means this days? Seems like another meme like terrorist.

>>59857619
and do those terms of use cover beating the shit out of a passenger?

>>59858616
welcome to reality and big corp.

>>59856979
your so epic hardcore for the win anonymous xd

So far I've read both that the algorithm used to decide who ges kicked off the plane is random or that it's designed to make a pool of late bookers and pick from those since they take the cheapest payout (which is a multiple of their ticket price)
Which is it /g/?

>>59858652
They are terrorists at this point desu
>can't say anything they don't like or they'll get you fired
>can't have any controversial opinion or you get shit on massively (see: JonTron and Yooka Laylee)
>start riots and fires when DRUMPF does anything
>racist as all hell (muh kangz and white ppl suck xd)

>>59858631
And in the terms and conditions for that ticket it indicated that the airline may at any point move the passenger to another flight.

You do read the terms and conditions when buying shit, right? Because if you don't and just clicked accept things like this could happen and you'd make a fool out of yourself trying to argue about it.

>>59857676
sauce on the doctor being a fag

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>>59858652
>political correctness
it's cancer. It's using some sort of taxonomy magic so that they get privileges and gibs.
You don't meet a person then, you meet a gaytransbicuriouspansexual colored person. Their whole personality revolves around that crap, and it's creepy. Kinda like meeting a guy who likes Starcraft and his whole world revolves around Starcraft, but at least Starcraft is fun and you won't get fired, socially destroyed and overall demonized for not liking it, though maybe you'll be called a pleb.

Identity politics are a great diversion from what really matters.

>>59858689
do they cover beating the shit out of a degenerate doctor that gives drugs to young boys and then rapes them? yeah, probably.

>>59858795
It so may be, but as soon as you take the offense and harm a passanger so that your company's terms are upheld you are in the wrong. If such conditions are in order, their best move would be to have someone responsable tell the passanger it works like so, and if he still refuses, tell him the legal implications of his actions.

Why don't they just stop overbooking flights?

>>59858877
>No evidence whatsoever provided to prove your point
You're just as bad as extremists who yell "cis scum" and feminazis of the like, stop being underage and go read a couple of books, educate yourself.

>>59857274
>Book in advance, probably months to a year ahead.
>Get on plane.
>Sorry sir, you have to get off, our employees need to be flown somewhere.
Tell me how this would go for you.

>>59858918
Apparently there is an expected amount of people to not show up for a flight, so they oversell hoping that only about 60% or so (numbers pulled out of my ass, but you get the gist) of the clients show up. It's a strategy so that they dont get a semi-empty flight.

>>59857274
You cannot get passanger out of a plane (not just deny boarding) forcefully unless he is doing something wrong, whether it was overbooked or not. Police cannot do it forcefully just because crew told them so.

Both police and crew are fucked up.

>>59858064
/pol/ is full of retards all around, this is no surprise.

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Man who even gives a fuck about this shit? Nothing's going to change after this blows over and you'll all forget about it in a week.

>>59857676
>in reality you aren't even a doctor because you lost your license due to trading prescriptions for gay sex
That's a different person they were bashing. It was brought up as a smear campaign against the guy on the UA flight to make it seem like he was a nobody because UA didn't think people would look up their sources.

>>59858877
im seeing this a lot but ive yet to be given proof. sauce or gtfo

>>59858877
This kinda shit worked against Hillary, but lets be honest, yall Cletus' don't give that much of a fuck to make it work against Xing Lao

>>59859057
its hilarious how the hillbilly pig fuckers can outwit the apparently enlightened left, but still fall short when the gooks come in

>>59858104
While in this situation the law is in favor of the doctor the bottom line is that the customer is NOT always right, they just act as if they are.

>>59859104
To quote Napoleon: “China is a sleeping giant. Let her sleep, for when she wakes she will move the world.”

>>59858877
Did they know he was a degenerate doctor who gives drugs to young boys and rapes them when they decided to kick him out? No? Oh, so they just dug some dirty info to look better themselves. Customer-friendly, those United guys.

How come the right loves to lick boots so much? Anytime something like this happens they jump to the defense of the officer/company/etc.

>>59859290
They're good goys

>>59859290
The right?
He was acting like a child and deserved everything he got.

Take this shit back to redbit you faux outraged moralfag crusading spooge eaters.

If you don't leave a plane when asked you get removed. Simple.

Also this guy was a degenerate who offered drugs to patients in exchange for gay sex (he was also married).

>>59859290
Daddy issues. They are always looking for a strong father figure to tell them what to think.

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>>59859346

>>59859362
Yet again, no evidence of such claim provided.

>>59859396
?

>>59859413
Keep defending my shekels goy

>>59859424
>>>/pol/

>>59859346
>deserved everything he got
He's gotten a lot of compassion and support from people all over the world.

Actually, I think it's sad that none of the other passengers stood up to security, but instead just pulled out their phones to record it. They (at least those who filmed it) were clearly disagreeing with the actions of the staff. But they were too pussy to even speak up.

>>59859439
It seems it is you who should go back there, why don't you admit Oscar Muñoz's dick is making it hard for you to breathe

>>59859471
>He's gotten a lot of compassion and support from people all over the world.
So, nothing?

>>59859475
First anti-semitism, now homophobia.
>>>/pol/

>>59859475
Having fun sucking Asian micro dick?

>>59859494
Don't be silly. It's a PR disaster for UA, (regardless of if they were right or not). So they will compensate him more than usual.

>>59859471
There's an effective time and manner to stand up to things like that, and it's not getting in the face of security. They're not going to undo their decision in the face of complaints. All they'll do is escalate the scope of their actions since interfering with them would be grounds to detain others.

Several recordings of the event made by people who kept quiet (and thereby got to keep their recordings and share them as soon as possible) are among the most valuable products of other passengers' actions.

>>59859566
>So they will compensate him more than usual.
No they won't. That would be admitting they were in the wrong.

>>59859546
I never implied that It was bad doing gay acts, it's just that corporate America has you by the, albeit small, balls. So no homophobia was shown, kiddo

>>59858339
>>59858403
> 5 Minutes vs one day
> Conversation that I planned on having vs an airline derailing you for an extra $500 profit.
I get it, the posting on [nationality] [hobby] board is an easy meme to grasp, and when you have a hammer every problem looks like a nail.

No comparison.

>>59859562
Hey, at least I'll have some good rep with the chinks when they take over the world

>>59856979
> have locale directly in the URL
dropped. who the fuck designed this

>>59859590
But they have already done so.

>>59859591
>I never implied that It was bad doing gay acts
That is exactly what you did. You used sucking dick as an insult.
Fuck off back to the_donald

>>59859566
A PR disaster for an airline is a crash. This is just run of the mill negative PR. Its net effect on the financial situation for United was 1% on stock value, if it can even be argued that 1% exceeds normal fluctuations.

They'll also compensate him only as much as they need to for him to accept. He's not going to accept or demand any different amount of money just because he has compassion on his side. Nor will United offer him more than they need to just because they feel bad.

I wonder if you're getting fooled by some sort of internet echo chamber about how significant this is. It made top headlines on major news outlets for barely 12 hours overall. It's now a third-level story on the few sources I just peeked at.

>>59859626
See, you need to learn how to comprehend what you read, it would have been homophobia if I told you to stop sucking dick entirely, but I explicitly told you to stop sucking the UA CEO's dick, for you love to defend corporations, that is what was implied and nothing else. Also I'd never vote for drumpf, regardless of how that makes you feel.

>>59859685
>Also I'd never vote for drumpf, regardless of how that makes you feel.
Why would you vote for anyone else?

>>59859744
To be le contrarian ofc

>>59857966

Are you a moron?

Flight was overbooked. Flight crew positive space tickets do appear on the priority boarding list and are confirmed reservations.

>>59858971
What does it matter if they have an empty flight? The money is already paid for either way

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>>59859933
Because when margins are thin (not speculating on the reasons or truth behind that), money left on the table is bad under any circumstances. Even if they didn't expect to make money for >100% of seats selling, it's a cardinal sin to miss that money if they can grab it. It's why they lament underbooked relocation flights so often. As much as they need the plane to be in a particular city later in the day, they hate having to pay its flight costs without milking every penny possible.

>>59857274
You've earned five free United Mileage Plus miles!

>>59859933
Yes, but this method, I assume, renders more money, less flights required since "some passangers will fail to show up", making more money per flight. Just a stupid, uneducated guess anon, but seems to make sense.

>>59859110
Is the business always right though?

>>59857966
>they just arbitrarily decide their staff take priority.

thing is, it's not like they chose to give their friends a ride here. It was operationally important to get the crew where they needed to go or more people were going to get stranded. It starts a domino effect if they have to cancel a flight.

You people have no idea how airlines operate and yet spout ignorant shit. It's like when an aircraft has an accident every fucking steve joe is suddenly a decorated crash investigator.

>>59858450
wanna bet on it?

>>59860076
Not the Anon to whom you're replying but this is a stupid bet to make. The settlement will almost assuredly include non-disclosure alongside indemnification. We'd ultimately never know.

>>59859032
The Daily mail didn't.

>>59860055
Then the correct procedure to fix a boarding mistake is to offer increasingly larger amounts of compensation until enough people decide that it's worth losing a seat.

>>59858006
>>59858065
Actually, during the altercation, a number of passengers voluntarily left the aircraft.

Why do corporate shills have to lie to make their point? Did you even bother getting your facts checked?

>>59858631
>Now please go be 12 somewhere else

Looks like you're the 12 year old here, faggot. If a crewmember tells you to get off a plane, you get off the plane. They have the authority and are responsible for every soul onboard - if they so choose they can simply bump you off their plane.

That asian faggot didnt act like an adult, nor did the airport "police", but united is kinda innocent. After all, it wasnt even their aircraft or flight

>>59858357
The man WAS chosen because of his ethnicity. That is a FACT and there are witnesses to it:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/united-airlines-passenger-dragged-off-flight-3411-asian-china-media-chicago-o-hare-plane-racism-a7677821.html

This is not some people crying wolf, it was ACTUAL RACISM!

>>59860124
I agree.

>>59860124
That certainly sounds ethical. It may even be the legal obligation according to UA's contract of carriage. But it's certainly not the most efficient from a business perspective.

Kicking someone with dollar-for-dollar compensation would destroy customer trust. Kicking someone at, say, 4x compensation would start to cost more money than just booking a new flight for the transferring crew. Somewhere in the middle is the sweet spot where you take a little bit of a hit in exchange for securing your revenue on the flight that this transferring crew will be running. And yes, that sweet spot even accounts for the one-in-a-thousand case where a kicked passenger creates a scene like this one. Because the other 999 times you just get someone who makes an angry tweet and maybe never flies UA again. Big whoop.

In short I think that even with what happened, from a purely capitalist perspective UA did the smart thing and would even keep doing it unchanged in the future.

>>59860155
You are unironically defending something indefensible, something for which even United itself has already apologized. That is how much of a bootlicker you are. You are not convincing anyone or looking smart, you're obviously wrong and just embarrassing yourself.

>>59860155
>If a crewmember tells you to get off a plane, you get off the plane. They have the authority and are responsible for every soul onboard - if they so choose they can simply bump you off their plane.
Wrong on all levels. They do not have such authority and you don't get off without a good reason.

http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2017/04/11/aviation-attorney-on-united/

http://www.philly.com/philly/columnists/stu_bykofsky/United-Airlines-right-is-wrong-for-passengers-.html

>the asian faggot
So you're a racist and a homophobe. Why am I not surprised?

>>59860206
Not him but, you are just resorting to emotional language like a child. United had every right to do what they did. You are the one that is wrong.

>>59860263
I only said the truth. If it stirred your emotions, then it says something about you, not about me.

>>59860196
>You are unironically defending something indefensible, something for which even United themselves has already apologized. That is how much of a bootlicker you are. You are convincing anyone or not looking smart, you're obviously wrong and just embarrassing yourself.
>>59860206
>You are unironically defending something indefensible, something for which even United itself has already apologized. That is how much of a bootlicker you are. You are not convincing anyone or looking smart, you're obviously wrong and just embarrassing yourself.

I might be, but at least I can write coherent text :^)

>>59860298
Yeah, you also use a smile with a carat nose, which means you came from reddit.

I am a person of colour and I have a ticket for a United Airlines flight towards Chicago O'Hare in a month, and I'm seriously concerned about my safety.

>>59860256
>They do not have such authority and you don't get off without a good reason.

In fact they do have such authority.

>>59860363
If that color is white you're pretty safe

>>59860363
>>>/pol/

>>59857955
Which is another irregularity. By law, they are required to give you cash. This only further proves United Airlines is completely wrong here.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/14/250.5

>>59860387

White is not a color. Color happens when light is absorbed, not when it's reflected.

>>59860387
>In fact they do have such authority.
But that's wrong, you fucking retard. I just posted two sources gainsaying that.

>>59860387
White people shouldn't be safer just on account of their skin colour.

Fuck off back to /stormfront/.

>>59860464
>I just posted two sources gainsaying that.

Both are related to this drug trafficker case, not on crew's authority on personnel removal.

However like I said, the crew (captain making the final call) has the authority to remove anyone from their plane. That is true, I guarantee you 100%. I've sat through weeks and weeks of classes on aviation law. This is plain as water. They DO have to give their reasoning for removal, and will not do that on light reasons, but they absofuckinglutely have unarguably authority to deny anyone a ride on their aircraft.

Too drunk? You get thrown off. Belligerent? Off you go. Unruly? On no fly list.

I do not agree how this specific situation was handled, and I despise american police's trigger happy methods, but to say that the crew which is responsible for safe flight has no say who travels on that aluminum tube with them is false.

> imagine a gif of trump leaning closer to mic and saying wrong wrong wrong

>>59858974
t. squatter

>>59860715
You keep implying they had a security reason or even just any decent reason to throw that guy off, when in fact they didn't have any reason besides "save us some money in getting some of our own people where we want them to be".

The crew has no authority to remove anyone arbitrarily, period. I don't give a fuck if you've sat through classes, you're still a fucking moron and an obvious paid shill.

>>59860781
>they didn't have any reason besides "save us some money in getting some of our own people where we want them to be"
Also don't forget their most compelling reason: he was not white.

>>59860781
Not him but they do have the authority. What they don't have is legal immunity having performed that action unjustly. Authority is the ability to do something, not a defense from the consequences.

What you two have been doing is conflating the crew with the carrier. The passengers have a contract with the carrier. Therein lies the question of whether United had the authority to violate their contract.

The crew's authority vis a vis the contents of the aircraft comes from the FAA, not in their capacity as representatives of the carrier. That's a separate question, one of whether they exercised that particular authority justly. It's not the question of whether they have such authority in the first place, however. They do.

>>59860873
The FAA is not above the constitution, and every one has a constitutional right not to be discriminated on the basis of race.

>>59860873
>it's not a question of whether they have such authority
That stop muddying the waters by repeatedly bringing that into the discussion, retard.

>>59860902
And that would be a question of misapplication of authority, not whether it exists in the first place.

Authority is the ability to do something--justly or unjustly--and not a defense from the consequences.

>>59860939
>let's discuss semantics instead of actual facts

>>59860934
Explaining how something isn't a question removes it from a discussion where some people seem to think it belongs anyway.

>>59860968
How nice that it settled all of the conflict over the facts too.

>>59860873
That is a technical detail. Call it an abuse of office.

The point here is that the customer had every right to stay in his seat and take that flight. It has been proven multiple times that the company was legally bound to provide for the service the customer bought. His forceful removal and the physical harm that followed were unlawful under every single point of view.

>>59860902
Dont bring the constitution to this, the US is one of the founders of ICAO which makes the flight rules and every member state adds to their own lawbooks.

Like I've argued, the crew has the authority. It's an honor based system, the crew is given a tremendous amount of trust on their shoulders. If you throw a colored person off the plane you might not only lose your job next day but be perceived as not having a balanced moral standing and you might lose your licence, as well.

They might or not had the right to deplane the gay sex drug trafficker, I'm not saying anything on that one. They absolutely had no reason to smack his head to armrests, which united didn't in fact do, some jeans wearing hillbilly "police" did. And not even on an united plane. God this is a stupid discussion as media has warped everyone's view.

>>59861086
>They might or not had the right to deplane the gay sex drug trafficker
But we're talking about the Vietnamese physician, anon.

>>59861117

No, we were talking about the poker champion.

>>59861086
>whine that media has warped everyone's views
>help spread fake news about the victim that the media published in an attempt to assassinate his character
Just stop.

>>59857274
Kill yourself bootlicker cuckboy.

>>59861157
>fake news

now we know your political affiliation, anon

>>>/pol/ is that way

>>59857274
>be United
>Take some chink's money in exchange for service
>Don't give him service.
Flew KLM at the weekend, it was overbooked and they offered me €250 in cash or a free bump up to Business class for a one hour flight. Needed to be places that day so I enjoyed my Business class seat.

>Man on flight was David Thanh Duc Dao
>Criminal records found were for David Anh Duy Dao
What say you?

>>59861173
And now we know yours
>>>/reddit/

>>59861085
>he had every right to stay in his seat
No he didn't. Crew authority.

>company was legally bound
As far as I'm aware, absolutely correct.

>removal...harm...unlawful
Again, as far as I'm aware, yes.

You don't have a right to a force field against grievances. What you have is the right to petition the government for a redress of grievances. That's not a technical detail, it's a foundation for how the US operates. Sometimes we need to give people the latitude in their authority which allows for them to fuck up. What follows is that we also need to be okay with understanding that the fuck-up will happen, we'll live with it as it does and we'll make amends and learn from our mistakes later.

>>59861296
I'm not really into california cuck society a la ycombinator, reddit, hackernews

>>59861204
they offered him the same ($800 and stay at the hotel). he didn't take it. as per contract, they refused to offer him the service and asked him to leave. he didn't and started screaming like a madman instead.

and all you retards are offended by this? LOL!

well, the doc can retire rich now.

>>59861433
Yeah, the physician in the US is only NOW going to retire rich. This totally changed his wealth outlook.

>>59861433
If he retires then he can't exchange drugs for sex with male patients.

>>59857408
What is it with you teens and using the word edgy, are you trying to sound like an adult?

>>59859933
oy vey.
that money is rightfully ours.

>>59861388
>it's okay as long as it is in the contract

The American traveller/consumer exists to be farmed by the rest of the world.

I don't really care how they treat each other whether its the violent removal of passengers to maintain profitability from overbooking, HFCS in everything, 20% of GDP on healthcare or piss testing of employees.

I want to see profits at the end of the day and I'm hopefully President Trump sees things the way I do and will get rid of stupid bullshit red tape like consumer protection (crybabies) and employee protection (get another job if you don't like it, moran).

I'd be furious if anything like the above happened in my country of course but we're different and special. I'm speaking for my money which I expect a return on.

>>59861256
Romanization of a chink name by different people.

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>>59857065

>>59861474
Hi, UA rep. Everyone can tell you're trying to assassinate this guy's character with made up stories.

>>59861561
Viet romanization is standardized thanks to the French, unlike Mandarin romanization. It's not the same dude.

>>59860455
Who taught you physics? Tyrone?

>>59856979
What's the tool's name?
Also, the filename is quite Italian

>>59861474
>drugs are bad, mmmmmkay?
>sex is bad, mmmmmkay?
Stop trying to trigger people's prejudices against this guy, he's fully within his freedoms if he chooses to do drugs or have consensual sex. Stay mad, United shill.

>>59861578
Maybe he's a spy

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>>59861595
>theres nothing wrong with a doctor illegally exchanging drugs with patients to have sex with or cheating on your wife

>>59861633
Sorry, I didn't realized we had gone back to the Middle Ages.

>>59861542
yes. thats how modern world and legal system works. it's a series of contracts.

>>59861660
And the greatest of them is the constitution, which forbids discrimination on ethnic grounds.

>>59861660
Thank you for clearing that up Anon-y:mous, Freeman on the Land.

>I'm just fucking with you.

>>59858190
That's before they board the plane. After boarding they got no rights to unboard passengers under common carrier laws.

>>59857966
They always overbook them. People tend to cancel their flights.

>>59861697
>And the greatest of them is the constitution, which forbids discrimination on ethnic grounds.
TOP KEK!
Quality shiptost, son.

>>59861697
Pedantry time: not explicitly, nor absolutely.

Re: explicit - application of the 14th Amendment is limited to a handful of particular classes thus far. Namely those are race, national origin (this is not the same as ethnicity), religion and whether you're a resident alien, followed by gender, legitimacy, and sexual orientation.

Re: absolutely - this is why I split the above list with "followed by" and even omitted many related classes from the list. "Forbid" isn't common language in Constitutional law. What happens is that laws which are challenged under the Equal Protection Clause have to pass a test. For the first group I listed it's the Strict Scrunity test,
>"narrowly tailored to a compelling interest"
and for the others it's Intermediate Scrutiny. There are also lots of discriminatory laws which are tested against Rational Basis. Each of these is successively less stringent but you'll see that even the strictest isn't an absolute.

It can be perfectly legal to make laws which discriminate against suspect classes as long as they're narrowly tailored to a compelling interest of the State and are as least restrictive as possible for the purposes of that interest.

Ethnicity is not a suspect class, and even if it were there is not an outright forbidding of discrimination.

>>59857703
*$1000 dollars in travel vouchers that can only be used in $50 increments with United airlines

The only way you'll get actual cash is if they remove you without you agreeing to it.

>>59861728
Please dont spout shit you know nothing about. Boarding is done until plane doors are closed for engine start or pushback. Boarding process has got shit to do with showing your ticket to the gate agent.

We could stop overbooking, lets just go to the old ways before the de-regulation and charge you $500 for a seat. Don't like that?

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>all the damage control and defending for United Airlines
I knew /g/ was full of shills, but I really didn't expect shills for an airline company of all things

>>59862014
It's so unlikely that I think "trolls" provides a more satisfying explanation.

>>59862009
Boarding is the present participle of Board. You need to be in the action of getting on the plane to be Boarding.
As a noun, it is the action you take to get onto the plane.

Boarding happens before you get on the plane and ends when you are on the plane.

You don't know shit son.

>>59862009
And to add to that, if you are a UA shill, The contract does Not define Boarding as a process. Therefor it needs to be commonly understood.
Here's your contract bubsy: https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/contract-of-carriage.aspx/

>>59857619
fun fact: UA's terms say that they may DENY BOARDING when a flight is overbooked, BUT NOT that they may kick already boarded and seatet passengers off the plane.
https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/contract-of-carriage.aspx#sec3
rule 25 A 2

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>>59857274
>go to gamestop
>buy PS4
>as soon as you give them the money, they take the PS4 into the back and tell you they are giving it to an employee
>offer you $800 store credit as compensation
>say you aren't leaving until you get what you payed for
>they call mall security and you get knocked unconscious and dragged out of the building feet first without your PS4 or the compensation
Totally fair :^)

>>59857274
yes, pay money to get fucked in the ass, faggot

>>59860055
Charter a flight you greedy fucking jew, your contract of carriage is more important than "muh operationz"

>>59858877
Did they know anything about him beyond his name and that he was a doctor when he told them on the flight? Unless you're on a no-fly list, they don't look into you. They have no reason to. If you're on a no-fly list I doubt you'll make it past screening.

>>59858877
Your running on old news. The media go it wrong. The doctor that sold drugs to people is not the one who was on the plane

>>59862319
If one wants to live in a country where "I'm not leaving until..." is the preferred alternative to police intervention and/or a lawsuit, one can go there.

Just not via United Airlines.

>>59862379
>"I'm not leaving until..."
You forgot the second part of anon's argument. What a nice Straw man you have there.