/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

>>59847575
Just get a quad core and some thermal paste and replace the cpu, ram doesn't really increase compile times unless your compiling with many threads.

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Thoughts on the x240 ?

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>>59848632
Utter trash:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOFvk-FzTxQ

>>59848374
what is the absolute best all-around laptop on the market right now ?
guidelines:
price/performance
quality/price
battery life/performance
u know the rest

>>59848664
i'd skip the **4* gen unless it's a T or W and you want to swap the touchpad

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>>59848664
B-But I'm not stupid anon..

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>>59848794
I'd skip anything past the **20 series, you fucking gook.

>>59848845
>I like my mobile processors HOT HOT HOT

>>59848374
Got an X61 today and I am absolutely loving using it, the form factor is absolutely incredible. I put in a small SSD with 4GB of RAM and it runs KDE well. Honestly anons I am stunned by the size the pictures made this device out to be a lot bigger than it actually is.

How does one go about refurbishing their own thinkpad?
How do refurbishers clean up and restore their machines?

>>59848878
Jokes on you because ULV processors in thin laptops like new thinkpads have the same thermals as mobile processors in old thinkpads.
You like your processors wimpy wimpy wimpy, just like your dick, you gook.

continue on the last thread about whether or not i should get a modded t430 (3632qm, nvs5200, 2k panel) for my photoediting work (lightroom, photoshop and some light video editing).
>id like to give the new keyboard a try
>the only quad core modded with nvidia gpu i can get a x230 with just a 3612qe

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postan sexe 380ed

>>59849808
>wipe it down
>put stickers over any overly bad scratches
>put in a new keyboard and battery

>>59850029
That's exactly what i was planning to do,
but instead of wiping down the laptop,
I will dunk it in some electronics grade
99% isopropyl alcohol in a tub and let it sit
there for a few hours, then wipe it down with a rag.

>>59849808
refurbfag here
Cleaning of everything can be done with some windex and a microfiber cloth, dust remover is blown through the fucker and under the keys to get rid of most dust and debris, light scratches are dealt with using a 50/50 water/acetone mix and a sponge
if its really bad and its worth it to replace a part for the sake of better resale value, buying things cosmetically is important, people leave shit reviews if their laptop is shit, new palmrests or touchpads are common, sometimes new keys if there are some worn out, since those parts are cheap and add a lot of value to the device

For refurbishing your own, clean the bitch up, anything really fucked up should be replaced, possibly upgrade internal components.
My personal T42 is cosmetically and internally refurbed and upgraded, i even modified a heatsink from an R52 to cover the gpu, as well as custom milled brass frame pieces to make an even more rigid frame for the laptop

>>59850061
do not do that, it can erode or damage some plastics

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>>59849808
also new thermal paste, fresh Windows with all the drivers (probably has a COA sticker) so the illiterate buyer doesnt have an excuse to return it - that is if you wanna sell it, new hinges if the old ones are really really loose, and generally make sure everything werks.

>>59850114
Trust me, I know what I'm doing.
I've treated plastic devices with isopropyl many times
like this and not once have I damaged anything. Isopropyl
being erosive is a meme because its not basic enough to erode materials

>>59850127
>windows
Nah, I'm not going to sell the thinkpad, I just don't want to get jewed by some refurber.

>>59850166
with a laptop its less likely you'd see plastic erode as much as some of it may get brittle, it can also damage the foam around things like the heatsink and fan
it would be better in the long run to spend the hour or so taking it apart and cleaning it, you'd probably get it cleaner anyway

>>59850204
Ill just remove the foam and get replacement foam pads.
Although, all I need to wash is the outer shell, so I could
do it with soap and water which is much cheaper and easier.
Thanks for the heads up anon.

>>59850091
>acetone
>windex
I don't want my thinkpad covered in toxins though.
But thanks for the guide, I never knew how to get scratches out of the lid, I will try and find something non-toxic that can replace the acetone.

>>59850540
acetone isnt toxic (by epa standards at least), its an organic compound thats produced in your own body in small amounts
the amounts used in cleaning wont harm you through skin contact
especially not normal nail polish remover, straight up pure acetone might be a bit excessive though

its good for cleaning scratches and scuffs because it erodes plastic, so definitely dont use it with paper towels because the paper fibers will stick to the plastic

t430s best tp

>>59850615
>97 minutes battery life
>best tp

Anyone know where to buy a genuine x230 adapter in the UK?

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Why does every single Lifebook have wear on the trackpad?

>>59851085
because they were painted with shitty paint

>>59848374
How many hours of battery would I get with a new 9cell battery on my x230? Currently get about 2 hours at best.

>>59851166
3

>>59851085
Because they don't have a proper pointing device.

>>59850769
I get 5 hrs so it's decent for me

>>59849808
Dip that shit in a bath of isopropyl alcohol and sell.

>>59849986
The new keyboard is better simply because it doesn't flex like hell.
You can put a 45w quad core but be ready to get the bigger heatsink for the nvidia igpu iirc.
Battery whitelist can be removed with bios mod.
AC WiFi can be used but you need to flash the bios and is more complicated but doable.
Also where are you seeing a t430 with a 2k mod and the quad core x230.

>>59851629
no you don't.

What's the difference between the T40 and the T460s?

>>59851085
Are these actually any good? My student store has a bunch.

>>59851969
I am looking into doing some cooling mod. Maybe putting in a larger fan from those gayme laptops. would be nice to also add more headpipe too. Think it will take me awhile to learn all the stuff needed.
battery whitelist? there are some better battery out there?
wifi ac is not really that pratical yet so no worries
its from a china thinkpad forum. they still accept orders, but only strictly in china. I'm just going to ask a friend who lives there to get one for me. both the x230 and t430 has 2k panel. If HD4000 is enough for my work, then I might get the x230 for portability...

>>59852422
>battery whitelist? there are some better battery out there?
The *30 series can only use original batteries.

>its from a china thinkpad forum
you mean the 51nb gois?

AFAIK the panel mods are really shit, literally used glue on the panels and the screens were kinda shit. You'd be better off ordering only the kit and doing the mod yourself with a good screen.

Also never heard about the x230 quadcore, would love to get one with the fhd ips mod.

The elitebook 2570p can use quadcore cpus, if you care about that.

>>59852422
>cooling
Good luck, I'm skeptical of there being a quick fix. Some older models benefit a bit from drilling holes in the case under the fan but I don't know that it would be as helpful on those models. An external fan to go over the vent might also help though everyone seems to have a different experience with those and they're not too portable.

>battery
https://github.com/hamishcoleman/thinkpad-ec
Clearing the battery whitelist isn't too hard.

Personally I'd rather get something that came with those kinds of specs out of the factory rather than risk it with someone else's mods, it kind of invalidates the reliability selling point of those models anyway though it's up to you. Might be an idea to look at how much it would cost you to spec out a T440p or X240 though.

Is this worth it im using my own ssd? or should I just spend more to get a known working one

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-X200-2-4Ghz-Core-2-Duo-P8600-4GB-RAM-No-HDD-7458-5FU-Y84-/322465381206?hash=item4b146f3b56:g:sr4AAOSw4A5Y2Zle

>>59852586
oh ok never knew that was the case. all i've deal with so far are only *20 series

only glued on? wow really sucks...guess I would tell him not to do that on mine when its time to order one.
here is the link to his process of modding the x230, only a little part of it talks about bgaing the 3612qe.
https://forum.51nb.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=1736443
>he was saying he switched out the original (3557u). The first time failed, but couldn't figure out why. He later try it again, but only two worked with one still has some issues.

>>59852775
personally id drop the extra bit of money to get one that i know is 100% working and comes with the HDD and an operating system
http://www.ebay.com/itm/252859337397
its also in much better cosmetic condition
though you lose the larger battery and 2gb of ram (at least ram is cheap)

zero feedback, zero sales na senpai I'm good. But I think you have a point, perhaps i should spend more to know its working.

>>59848845
they're all made by gooknovo unless you want to go back to the *4* series.

>>59848632
Swap the touchpad, its a decent machine
I would rather have the X230 because 12" ultraportable > 12" Ultrabook

>>59848845
>autism detected
>not having a variety of models and appreciating them for their strengths and faults

>>59849808
>how do refurbishers clean their computers
>how do people want to add a price tax on 'seller refurbish' just because someone has an A+ cert and can dust and lysol sheet a laptop
basically canned air on bare motherboard, repaste of thermal components, replace anything that looks B grade with new components
>or not give a shit

>>59849851
>autism triggered
My T430s outperforms a T420s in every way
If 'muh keyboard' , or 'muh build quality' is a factor, I have an X300, A31p, NMB T61, T43p, 600X, 700ED/X/Z. T22, T23, 755, 380, for a far better typing experience than any Lenovo product made after the X200.

>>59850166
>trust me I know what I am doing
>how do people refurbish computers
why not go out with a bang and use vinegar

>>59850769
>it is all subjective in the end

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>>59852388
>IBM T40 vs T460s
>a decade and some years later
uhhhh...

>>59849986
Just get a T460p instead
WIth all that work done on a T430, its going to cost the same amount but with less battery life and GPU performance.

>>59852956
>trusting an ebay seller with a _0 at the end of their name
I've came across so many low balling & 'bulk buyers' who never paid with this shit.
Its fucking weird, I think some one these are people who sell accounts later.

>>59853256
>basically canned air on bare motherboard, repaste of thermal components, replace anything that looks B grade with new components
don't forget about roaches and stuff.

>>59853324
>T460p instead
what about the t440p and trackpad mod?

>>59852388
meant T460 and T460s my bad

>>59853324
if i were to get one that is already modded instead modding it myself, it only costs around $600

>>59853366
Depends if the price savings justify the performance/efficiency loss.

I just don't think highly of an 720p i5 intel GPU T440p when all 'p' models since the A22p to T61p were all discreet GPU and upgraded CPU/LCD.

>>59853449
TIme 2 sell my T430s FHD modded 16GB PC3L laptop then.
It just needs the T420 keyboard swap and VANTABLACK paint.

What's the bandwidth on the mSATA port in xx20 thinkpads? Is it worth putting an 850 EVO in the or would it just be massively bottlenecked?

>>59854128
3 gbits
and yes it's worth it even if it's only at 1.5gbits.
you'd have to be retarded to think it wouldn't be worth it

>>59853473
>>59852586
after all the discussion, I still haven't got an answer...do I really need the nvs5200 for photoediting/light video editing?
>both the modded x230 and t430 has 2k panel and quad core (3612QE | 3632QM)
>>59852863

is 51 dollars for an x220 with a malfunctioning keyboard too much

>>59854207
no
assuming that it's only the keyboard that's fucked
replacement keyboard is like $25

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I need new batteries for my x220 and x230. From what I understand it would be a waste of time to get non-OEM batteries.
Is that correct? Or are there some third-party vendors with decent manufacturing?

I am in Australia so I cannot get any Amazon batteries and am stuck looking at places like ebay or aliexpress.

Also would anyone be able to give me a quick rundown on the differences between the batteries? 44+ vs 29+ etc.
From what I understand, no + means it is 4 cell, the + is 6 cell and ++ indicates a 9 cell. What are the numbers?

>>59854128
>Is it worth putting an 850 EVO in the or would it just be massively bottlenecked
don't listen to the other anon, you are gonna get massive bottlenecks. have fun running a 850 at half its speeds
.

>>59854128
>>59854308
>I have an 840 evo in an x61t
Am I just wasting the potential of the drive?

>>59854343
Can the x61t even support an Msata ssd?

>>59854377
Oh sorry, mine is regular SATA not mSATA.

>>59854288
Chink batteries aren't terrible, the one I have I got because my X220 didn't come with one at all, and I get a few hours life, but I don't exactly need much more than that. If you're replacing a worn out battery because it's just not doing it for you then you're probably better of going OEM.

>>59854484
I have a 2-3 hour train commute, so I need some decent battery life.

>>59854308
>have fun running a 850 at half its speeds
you dumb fuck

>>59854343
>Am I just wasting the potential of the drive?
yes are you fkucking retarded

>>59854552
>paying for one of fastest sata ssds to be gimped by sata2
who's the retard now, that's right it's [[[[°°you°°]]]

>>59854869
At that time everyone suggested using an SSD for thinkpads to get the best speed/battery life.

What would be a better drive to use then? Would it still be a waste in an x230?

>>59854869
>gimped by sata2
you're only "gimped" when it comes to simple sequential speeds, which are barely used in real life, you're not reading and writing 50GB incompressible files all day long.
the 4K speeds and access times are the same.
you literally sound like you never owned a ssd.

you dumb fuck.

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so I bought a x1 carbon 2014 really cheap second hand

but I have a problem concerning the keyboard backlit, it always goes on by default as soon as it loads into the os, how do I change this? It is really annoing to change it to off after every start

>pic related its the x1 carbon 20a model

>>59849185
now imagine an x62

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>>59848374
Does a drive (let's say SSD) installed in place of the DVD burner run at SATA3 or slower? Does the speed of other drives get affected?

I remember reading something about this but forgot it all.

>>59855202
sata3, same as main drive

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>>59848664
hahaha thats fucking bad ass, I like my t510 a little more today.

>>59855160

check the bios options mb

>>59855246

I did I found no setting there

>>59855284

Are you using loonix?

>>59855294

nope winshit 10 is preinstalled, but I'm gonna reinstall win8 back, will that make a difference?

>>59855339

No idea, I could help with loonix but no idea about windows.

>>59855353

thanks anyway for you consideration

>>59854883
>>59854955

Spending on a 850 evo, one of the fastests sata SSDs and considering current SSD prices are fucking high, I just can't see how it's not retarded when you are not going to use it to it's full potential.
Just grab the cheapest SSD you can get and might as well get a used one.

>>59855538
I got an 840 evo not an 850. This was a couple years ago and it was the only drive that did not have people telling me it would break.

>>59855549
>it was the only drive that did not have people telling me it would break.
you got memed

>>59855581
The cheapest SSD at the time was only $20 cheaper, so no big loss for me.

>>59855538
>it's full potential.
you are mentally ill

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Buying locally is suffering.
Yes, that's 600 freedom coins.

>>59856259
Why not buy from overseas, anon?

Does the battery in your X230 rattle around when you move your ThinkPad? Mine does.

>>59855160
2014 was a sad year for ThinkPads

>>59856259
Just buy it from somewhere else in europe, I got a X220 for €100 in France

>>59856259
you can save plenty of shekels if you buy from ebay

>>59853138
Yeah, but at least they stuck to the old design with the **20 series and below, with a real roll cage and better drainage system than the new thinkpads.

>>59853256
By the way, I'm choosing right now between a X220 and X200, does the X200 have a much better keyboard than the X220?

>>59856295
>>59857024
>>59857028
I know, I just wanted to see what the market looked like locally since shipping is much cheaper/faster and I've never had any problem with the swiss postal services unlike having stuff shipped from abroad.
I found a T420 for 190, though. I might get that.
It's funny to see how people have absolutely no idea about how much their shit is worth.

Just purchased my first ThinkPad, a X220. I'm going to kms if it's shit. Don't disappoint me, /tpg/

>>59857203
Buy X1 Carbon 2017

Is there a model name for the official x220 charger?

I upgraded the LCD on my X200 to a 1440x900 LED panel. However, the backlight doesn't turn on, until the display cable is disconnected and reconnected while the computer is already on. What's going on here?

Panel seller seems to think its a fuse on the mobo, but why would the backlight work at all with a blown fuse? Tried on a few other boards—reconnect trick only worked on some.

Waiting on a replacement cable to eliminate that as a point of failure, but past that I'm running out of ideas.

>programming some assembly bullshit
>lock my x23zero and go to toilet
>come back , unlock, back to work
>eight, nine and zero buttons dont work anymore even though 3 minutes ago i used them to get %rnine registers and so on
what do
two hours ago i was cleaning my pc with foam, possibly too much went under the key? why it suddenly stopped working long time after rather than right away?

>>59858009
>ThinkPad 65W AC adapter - round barrel tip
Or something like that. They've jumbled it a bit. But just avoid the rectangular slim tip. With regards to part numbers, that varies, but afaik they're 40Y770X depending on the supplied cord for whatever country for the whole thing, otherwise 42T4416 is also applicable I guess

but tl;dr ThinkPad round tip 65W AC adapter

>>59856301
I've had one X220t rattle and the other fit perfectly. Luck of the draw

A question about the W530.

i7-3820QM vs i7-3920XM, I've checked the Intel site for both and some CPU benchmark site too. The only difference I see for the XM is a slightly higher clock speed and a 10w higher power draw, but does the XM have some real world difference or is it just diminishing returns, considering that at new, the XM was double the price of the QM?

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Where should I be looking to buy batteries in Australia?
Everything that comes up on ebay are third-party batteries that are not even significantly cheaper than lenovo ones should be.

>>59858588
You're paying for the unlocked multiplier, which is arguably ludicrous to have in a laptop anyway unless you live in Hokkaido or something

>>59858505
Could be the cable and connection going sour out of pure luck, see what a reseat does. Otherwise the only way to be sure is with another keyboard

>>59858759
So far this is the best place I have found
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/11-1v-63wh-New-Original-Laptop-Battery-for-lenovo-Thinkpad-X220-X220i-X230-X220S-X230i-42T4861/32803804931.html

They advertise it as being an original lenovo battery but there are no reviews/feedback to confirm it.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LENOVO-THINKPAD-T420-CORE-i5-2-4Ghz-8GB-250GB-WARRANTY-LOADED-WIN-10-/291933778878?hash=item43f89bf3be:g:9I8AAOxyCQ5TlgA7

Is this good? My X230 a 2.6GHz processor and 4GB of ram wasn't impressive at all in performance or battery life. And sometimes the keys didn't work. I want something reliable and good enough to do basic stuff.

>>59858883
What was the battery life like for your x230?
I have seen the 6 cell claimed to last a good 4-6 hours and the 9 cell going up to 9+. When using maxed brightness etc.

>>59858900

I can't remember but i really doubt as much as 4 hours.

>>59858588
unless you got some awesome cooling solution, you won't even want to overclock it

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Is the X200 keyboard significantly better than the X220 keyboard?

>>59859011
They feel the same to me

>>59858879
> Brand Name: Emerging
Nevermind, it is chink shit.

Lenovo you fucks, why are you making it so hard for me to buy a battery.

>>59858505
It's the keyboard mate. The connector becomes loose, somehow. I've posted about it here before. The keys will work of you out pressure on the connector, but as soon as you lift off the pressure, it will stop working again. I had to replace 2 keyboards due to this. I have taken to not touching the connector at all now, just taped it up. A new keyboard generally fixes this, I don't know if the connections are tighter or something. Maybe it's an issue with the connector itself, but there's no easy way of replacing the connector.

>>59858759
Does Lenovo have no presence in Australia? Can't you buy them from a Lenovo store or something?

Hey /g/, i need a notebook for the next 3-5 years, budget roughly 1,2k
It can be thicc, i want a good screen and decent build quality.

>>59859203
They have an online store but it is double the price of the same batteries on Amazon (who will not ship batteries here).
For the same price I could get 4 chink batteries.

>>59859231
If portability is not a big priority: T520 or W520 with a 1080p display, will cost around $500 with upgrades.
If portability is needed: X220 or X200 with a IPS display (google for the specific part numbers for the IPS displays for these laptops), will cost around $300 to $400 with upgrades.

I suggest you get a new genuine keyboard and new genuine battery for you new thinkpad to make it last a lot longer.

>>59859412
Thanks for the input anon! For the display, is an upgrade to WQHD worth it?
As much as i don't like apple products, their screens look great

>>59859521
No, there is no 4k screens for thinkpads, the max is 1080p, while for the smaller X series its 768p.

>>59858866
>>59859009

Thanks for the answers. Pretty insane to put an unlocked CPU in a laptop and charge for the chance to overclock, which I almost guarantee less than 10 T530 owners ever did when it was new.

Also, I heard that when it was new the X220 and X230 trackpads were really inaccurate, jittery and also had a problem with choppy movement. Have the latest drivers ironed out these issues?

>>59859667
Not the same anon, but the trackpad on my X230 was pretty mediocre. Ended up getting used to trackpoint and never looked back.

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Are dual screen thinkpads a meme? I want one really bad for photoediting on the go

>>59860144
Absolutely meme. You'll get like a nanosecond of battery life, unnecessarily burn through shitloads of cash, and have a core2 generation cpu.

>>59860144
Nothing is a meme if you are autistic enough.
That laptop would be awesome for programming, vim and terminal on main screen, 4chan + online docs on the vertical screen.

guys if i just want a quality laptop that runs well and is built well and durable, do i buy a thinkpad? been eyeing some 5series and some 430s but i wanna buy used, is that a bad idea?

>>59860341
Used is the way to go.

>>59860144
>I want one really bad for photoediting
You want to photoedit on cheap TFT screen? Are you, by any chance, retarded?

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Where did you buy your x220 IPS screen from?
I bought a "T1" one from a seller on Aliexpress and it was just a B1 with a T1 sticker on (the B1 sticker was underneath). I wouldn't have minded if it wasn't defective. (colors grayed out) Aliexpress didn't want to pay me back so I got screwed for like $65.
I'm looking for a reliable supplier so this will not happen again.

>>59860516
Do some research faggot, TFT screen doesn't always mean shit quality, that notebook was actually marketed towards photogs

>>59860144
>on the go

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>>59858505
>x23zero
poor anon

>>59860693
second screen is crap when compared to the main one

>>59860529
ebay, like all my other used shit

X61 or X60 /g/?

I need a dirt cheap laptop for traveling.

>>59862549
any 100$ acer

>>59862610
Fuck off
>>59862549
X60

>>59862635
Okay. Any reason why? X61s seem more abundant

>>59854197
Not all video editors can utilize the GPU to full advantage, so the CPU is the main culprit.
Dunno how many layers you'll have or how intensive it will be, so the nVidia cuda core boost may not be needed

I video edited fine on a T440p intel gpu model.
It'll just take some time regardless

>>59858883
>comic sans font
>literally says no in description
Buy my T420 with the Alienware M14x display instead

>>59859011
Significantly it is not.

>>59862651
>X61 or X60
>I'm going with a completely different laptop now
X200, unless you want to deal with the hot palmrest X61/s if the wifi hasn't been upgraded

>>59862651
I meant x61 (because newer)
Fuck phone posting, I'm switching to my laptop

>>59862635
kys.
>>59862651
He is trying to meme you into buying obsolete tech, don't fall for it, sure enough if you do you will come to complain here how we memed you into buying that shit, be warned
any ~100$ acer will do the job.

>>59862683
I was using the s to make X61 plural. Didn't know it was a different model. That's pretty autistic of you though lol

Ok I'll look into the x200

>>59862687
Okay thanks.

>>59862697
I want obsolete tech. I'll be backpacking through some third world countries and I want something durable and simple for programming on the go and basic email/news. I'm in /TPG/ because I appreciate the build quality.

>>59862740
>Obsolete
>Programming
>?????

>>59862762
This is /tpg/. All this shit is dated/obsolete. Stop being cancer and posting in this board if you don't like it.

>>59853427
T460 is cheaper and slightly heavier and thicker, has removable second battery, and two removable RAM slots as opposed to one soldered 4gb for the s

Theo s has somewhat higher quality materials.

>>59862803
I use a thinkpad as a daily driver, there is a huge difference between obsolete and dated.
kys

>almost Easter
>still no proper MobileTechReview on the T470

Guess I'm getting a T430.

My T420 gets really hot when the charge reaches 100%. Not happening when unplugged. Is it a battery problem?

>>59863915
if you think laptop reviews get better than this then you should seriously consider suicide

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T470-Core-i5-Full-HD-Notebook-Review.198130.0.html

whats the best thinkpad i can get for under $200 and 11' or less?

>>59854288
Non oem is fine and in some cases they can be better than genuine batteries which have been laying dormant for a few years.

That being said a genuine battery in good shape is always the best option. I got a genuine 9cell off a chinese ebay seller and it gets about an extra hour and a half on average more than the non oem 9cell with roughly the same wear.

>>59862124
correct

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I'm looking for a thinkpad with portability and battery life. Of course I want to keep a good performance as well, but i don't need top notch. Will be mostly used with school and out of home shit. Can /g/ help a brother choose the right one?

>>59864293
X100e if you mean 11 inches or less.

>>59864706
X220, and get a IPS screen, new keyboard, new battery, 8GBs of RAM, and a SSD.

>>59862683
>Buy my T420 with the Alienware M14x display instead
I want it

I found a used x131e for cheap that needs some parts but was wondering if it is feasible to get the motherboard with the i3 and replace the amd processor and motherboard it came with?

I've been looking for a x131e with the i3 but they are not as common and cost more than a x220.

Also why aren't they as widespread considering schools might have a fucking ton?

>>59864706
X220 with the 9 cell battery will go hours and hours and hours (when first released they did 12 hours.) I moved up to an X230 with a 6 cell battery (which is now at exactly 50% capacity) and it'll do just about two with medium usage, much less if you're playing vidya.

>>59864867
>>59864867

That's not the one thats a tablet+Laptop is it?

will i be able to put a higher-res panel in my t420?

>>59865316
There is a X220t model that is a 2-in-1 table+laptop, but there is also a regular X220 model which is just a regular laptop.

>>59865352
best screen is the a 900p panel from the x1c or alienware something.
You can order a kit from china to upgrade to a full hd ips panel and I think the chinks are working on a wqhd mod

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>>59865435
thanks anon. can you find me a link or will i have to dig around on my own?

>>59865447
>can you find me a link or will i have to dig around on my own?
lurk moar, the wiki on the OP has info on it retard.

>>59865352
If you can find the unobtainium chink LVDS-to-eDP kits, then you can put a 1080p screen into your T420.
But without that kit, your limited to 1600x900 max. If you want to replace your screen on your T420 for a
better one I suggest you look at this guide: https://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Replacing_T430_screen_with_a_better_one

>>59865426
>tabel+laptop
Those fucking chinks gluing laptops to tables, or how I like to call it, table/laptop.

AUTISMUS!

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so is the display on the t420 as bad as I'm told it is? i know its 1366x768 and has a poor quality TN panel. i wanna upgrade the screen over time but it will be at least useable right?

I'm not sure if I should get an x series or t, mostly because of the screen size. I'd prefer more portability, but I feel like I'd end up feeling like the x series keyboard is cramped, and hunched over the screen when working on a desk...

>>59866013
the T series is perfectly portable. 14 inches is not very wide.

>>59866012
You can get 1600x900, but the colors and viewing angles are still bad. It's acceptable enough for general use.

>>59866012
https://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Replacing_T430_screen_with_a_better_one
X1 carbon mod is still doable.

>>59866197
fuck this costs more than what i got my t420 for

>>59866012
you will wanna take your eyes out.
seriously, specially if you have been using ips panels for a while.

>>59866197
i dont want to break my laptop, is this idiot proof?

Why is it that sometimes the same exact item, a UK layout backlit keyboard for xx30 machines for instance, will have like 4 different FRU codes?

>>59866394
Different manufacturers

>>59866477

I see, they're all built to the same spec and standards though right?

>the best CPUs in the t420 and x220 are dual core
How is this considered acceptable? Aren't dual cores unusable for any real work, compiling or VMs?

Are X230 mSATA slots really SATA 2 speeds? This would be pretty shit. I'd like to have an mSATA boot drive and a mechanical storage drive. I heard there's also issues if you have two drives in an X230, is that true?

>>59866213
the 108p screen does, not the X1 carbon mod. You can''t get the adapters for the 1080p screen anymore anyways.

>>59866545
The cpus in the x220 and t420 are hyperthreaded though, so they virtualy act as a quad core with 4 threads. If you want the cpu on the t420 is removable and can be replaced with a true quad core, if your okay with hot temperatures. If you want the thinkpad designed for a quad core, look at the W520, they're pretty solid.

>>59866350
Nothing is idiot proof if the idiot is stupid enough.
If you are asking this question you probably will fuck up your laptop doing this, even though this mod isn't that hard.

>>59866213
try to get the chink fhd mod.

>>59866350
if you have to ask, then no.

>>59866505
no, some keyboards are better than others. NMB made the best ones if I'm not mistaken.

>>59866545
you can put quadcores on T and W thinkpads.

>>59866664
yes, just get the cheapest SSD you can afford, you'll max sata2 speeds.

>>59866741
>yes, just get the cheapest SSD you can afford, you'll max sata2 speeds.
It's not like random read and write speeds will matter,
>>59866664 dont listen to this fuck, buy an SSD as you would usually do, the difference between sata2 and sata3 is barely noticable.
>try to get the chink fhd mod.
Except they haven't been selling the kits for that in over half a year

>>59866339
i use a 28in 1440p IPS screen with my desktop
will i be able to get used to the t420 screen?

>>59867411
I think not. The stock T420 screen has terrible view angles.

>>59860529
I got chinked by the same sticker thing but got like $20 back from the seller after sending proof of the screen's true ID (B1) from one of those diagnostics programs

Can't get the fn+f8 working on my x220 with windows 10 LTSB N.

Any tips? Thanks in advance.

Which Thinkpad has the least botnet in it?

>>59868016

Technically, the ThinkPads from before the year 2000. Good luck using them for anything though. I have an old IBM 340 from 1994 which is an internet virgin, doesn't have the physical 56k jack which was an optional upgrade. Its got an IBM CPU too. Intel put their Managment Engine in everything after Cuo2Duo.

>>59867996

That's ok you're welcome.

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Im looking for a not shit chinkpad with a tablet feature, was thinking about x220t but maybe something newer. Can anybody help?

someone a few threads ago posted a video of a xx20 and a newer thinkpad both getting coffee poured on them, where the 20 is fine and the newer one dies. Can someone link it?

>>59868498

You'll find it on YouTube, just search 'ThinkPad durability vs new or something. It was an X240 vs an X220.

My MacBook has shit itself, and I was looking at an X220 as a cheap replacement. Will it last me a few years and perform well as a development machine? I read the buyers guide and it seems good I just don't know how well they've aged.

>>59866012
>>59866741
the guy who did that didnt even bother with 1080p now since he made a 1440p panel mod.

Would an x1 carbon 5th gen with 15% (1100 )off the website price be worth it?

>>59867411
You are going to want to kill yourself, no kidding.

>>59868016
Don't get memes, something earlier than cd2 , a corebooted t400

>>59868380
X220t or x230t

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>>59868232

>>59868939
X230 is pretty much just as cheap and will have a somewhat more power efficient Ivy Bridge processor. It'll be fine as the vast majority of modern Ultrabooks are similarly powerful but just have lower TDPs.

Main problem will be 1366x768, but the IPS screen's colors are good

>>59868939
>development machine
what kind of development?

I realize that the L-series is not durable but is a used L460 still a good buy? I like the decent specs and price.

>>59866012
Coming from a 2010 Macbook it's barely usable. If you're getting a T420 spend a bit extra on the 1600x900 panel.

>>59869065

;^)

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>>59848374
I'm looking for a laptop that's suitable for light gayming so i thought i'd look into thinkpads which /g/ obsesses about, but the only suitable model I found is the T560 which costs over a $1000, there's some affordable E series but you guys told me to stay away from it. Are there any cheaper alternatives?

It would be nice if it had a 15 inch screen and 6th generation intel processor

>>59869277
no, if you want something newer grab the e470, I think is not as bad according to reviews

>>59869347
Already fixed it so

;^)

>>59869361
get an egpu setup, gayman laptops are scam

T410 for 200 eur
good deal?

i5, 6gb ram, 500gb hd, 14'1''

>>59869546
no.

>>59869563
ok....
any particular reason why?


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

what about T530 for 300eur?

>>59869601
too much for both

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>>59869601
it's just not a good deal if you can get the T420 for cheaper

>>59869607
>>59869667
I see.
And what would be a good bargain price for the T530?
15.6", i5, 6gb ram, 500gb

>>59869837
around 200€
just check ebay, you can search for sold items

Just ordered an ex-lease x230

my choice was between x230 and the t430

at first I was leaning towards t430 but the archives changed my mind

also it said A-GRADE ex lease for the x230 whatever te fuck that means

not sure if it has an IPS.. most of them do right?

cost $40 USD less


So I made the right choice guysss?

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>>59869943
>A-GRADE ex lease

>>59870025
yeah it looks a bit like that?

I can just screen and keyboard mod it right?

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Thought in the x230?

>>59870128
are those big titles or is she like 1ft tool

>>59870128
Just werks.

Battery whitelist can be moded easily.

Wifi whitelist is harder to do but doable.

I prefer the chiclet keyboard desu.

Hopefully, based chinks will come up with a FHD mod.

>>59870168
>Battery whitelist can be moded easily.
>Wifi whitelist is harder to do but doable.
how?

Bought a thinkpad

was a hard decision to make beacuse I hate chinks

>t430 whitelist
which one of you faggots has gigabit internet?! who the fuck NEEDS to transfer massive files over WiFiAC??

god damn it motherfuckers, i have a 100Mb/s connection and that shit tops out at 12MB/s and i dont know what the fuck to do with myself

>>59862803
>posting in this board
>cancer

faggot, its called a thread

>>59870319
But anon, how am I supposed to max out my chinkpad with a pile of frivolous mods that together cost several times the price of the original laptop if doing so requires more effort than ordering the part off of ebay and dropping it in?

Though I think a large amount of the attention the whitelisting gets is simply due to one autist who will grasp at any excuse possible to assert that the *20 generation is the height of thinkpads and that there's a world of difference between it and *30 models.

>>59870319
the default card intel 1000 whatever is fucking shit

>>59870433
>the *20 generation is the height of thinkpads
The xx30 and xx40 are awful, you should either get a xx20 or jump straight to xx50\xx60.
If you disagree you're obviously an edgy contrarian autist posting this shitty bait in every thread. It's not our fault you got scammed by some craigslist nigger and now you're regurgitating your buyer's remorse "guys pls buy T430 pls the bios mods are easy I swear" all day every day.

>>59870511
I'd say the *30 is still acceptable. At least you still have your media, volume and mute keys.
*40 is pure cancer thought. ULV CPUs, even more gimped layout, less RAM slots, etc.. a disaster.

Are there any mods for the T460s so far?

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>>59848374
Is there a difference between the i5 and i7 for X220?

Also, is the extra 9-cell battery that protrudes out from the X220 worth it on auction sites?

>>59870511
There's literally nothing wrong with xx30 thinkpads. Anything from the xx40 to xx60 is shit.
The new xx70 are good again.

>>59870511
I bought a i7 t440p for 450 euros. And i love it. I did replace the awful original track pad though.

Please /tpg/ tell me what is wrong with my model. I just don't know.

>>59870903
What would you even mod on it? It lacks the same shortcomings of earlier models where you actually need mods to improve specs. Maybe you'll see mods down the line when it's cheaply available and more accessible.

You could always do something like giving a thinklight I guess.

>>59871037
To be honest, the T440p is an odd model just because, as far as I know, it's the only 14" model with a socketted CPU out of the newer generations. The only usual complaint that applies for it is maybe durability, but otherwise, on paper, the specs look pretty worthwhile.

is the e470 good?

>>59871267
I dropped it twice on concrete from desk height. Without any visible damage. They are less durable then the xx230 (and before) series though. Although you could make the case that replacing the plastic is easier on the new (P) models.

The internal layout is 100x better than the old one. And no keyboard flex. Also my mum lets me have 3 internal drives

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64GB ECC RAM, Quadro P4000, E3-1505V6 CPU, 2TB Samsung 960, 4K screen.

>>59868498
see >>59848664

Got myself a T43 today. Impressed with the keyboard quality. My firrst thinkpad ever. Amazaed it can play 1080p vids just well.

>>59869080
I'm a computer science student and I'm doing a web dev focused internship. So basically I just need a Linux machine and that's about it.

>>59869076
Yikes, didn't realize the resolution was that bad. Any alternatives for that?

>>59848374
I can have t460p with i5/8/198ssd or t450 eith i7/16/500ssd. Whats the better deal?

>>59870168
don't you know it's 1440p now?

>>59870921
i think it's worth it, i got a 9 cell battery and according to hwmonitor the thing has a wear level of 17%. Even with that my x220 still gets 11hs 30mins of battery time.

x220 vs x230. Which is worth it? x230 seems like the way to go because of the newer processor for very little extra cost. Is there something I'm missing?

>>59872893
>new in box
>x220
100%, those are super rare

>>59873220
Thanks, just wanted to update my post.

Gonna try and offer them a price, given that I would want to change the HDD.

Looks like it's a company that recycles old tech and sells them on. In this case, these were unopened boxes of the X220 that they want to shift.

The model number is 4290-29G but I'm not getting anythign else other than the i5 2520M, 4GB RAM and 320GB HDD.

I suppose having an original, unused battery pack will be a huge bonus.

How much battery life do you guys get out of a 6 cell battery on the T420? I only get a maximum of 3.5 hours, that too on power saver and I feel that it is a lot less than what other people get. On high performance or balanced, he battery runs for 2 hours total, which again feels pretty terrible? Is something wrong with my computer /g/?

>>59873389
A battery pack from that long ago' should have degraded too a certain extent, right?

>>59850127
lmao, story behind that pic?

>>59873425
It will likely be dead.

Li-ion batteries should never get completely drained.

>>59873486
>>59873425

Well shit. I guess I'll have to look for another battery. Do they even sell any Lenovo made batteries for the X220 still or should I just got the a chink battery?

>>59871037
The touch mouse buttons for the trackpoint are the only serious issue.

But I assume you replaced those as well, when you replaced the trackpad?

>>59873486
Depends on the how the complex the charging circuit is afaik but yeah, you're most likely right. I wonder what voltages the cells reached after that much time, lmao.

>>59873497
You should get a cheap 3rd party battery anyways.
Why pay extra just for a brand name?

I bought a Yanec battery for my 420 and it's perfect.

>>59848374
http://www.ebay.com/itm/222269929117
Is this overpriced?
>Core i5-2540M
>8 GB ram
>128 GB SSD
>refurbished
>239.99 usd + free shipping

>>59873546
The circuitry stops you from draining the battery in normal use.
It just tells you it's "empty" when it still has about 10% charge left.

But in storage the battery (slowly) drains on its own and no circuit can prevent that.
It's why you should never store "empty" Li-ion batteries, best is around 70%.

>>59870921
X220 with i7 has USB 3. i5 models don't.

>>59848374
is it a good idea to get a thinkpad like a t420 if I will probably not take it outside? I just want a cheap machine to watch muh animu and shitpost

>>59873685
>no circuit can prevent that.
except, you know, the protection circuit.

Is it possible to put a 1440p screen with more candela in a T460s? I would like to use it outside.

>>59873685
>>59873893
actually, I'm wrong, I have misunderstood. anyway, li-on is a wild beast, and I'm forever learning about them. very complex subject.

here's a nice read (and website) I found:
>http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/low_voltage_cut_off

>>59873649
try not to pay more than $150 for an x220. mine with the same i5 was $125

>>59850588
Acetone isn't toxic. You can burn it for energy just fine. It even has dedicated metabolic pathways.

First time buyer here. I just got a used R500 a few days ago and it's ass.
Can't install the OS I want, and cramming libreboot on it involves hours of work, complete disassembly and spending more on electrical equipment than what I spent on the laptop in the first place.

Question is, what TP should I get if I want liberty and no CIA spying?

>>59854377
Yes, with a mod that isn't for the faint of heart

>>59874323
libreboot an x220

>>59874382
I meant x200. x220 is coming soon though apparently.

Is it a good idea to get a T42, with a ram upgrade to run Tails?

I don't trust Intel Core anymore.

I have a 9.5 mm Cd drive caddy, and I was gonna use it in my t420, it looks like it fits, but is it gonna be a secure enough fit for daily use? I'm not using the Cd drive cover, I don't have the ssd for test yet though.

Got a T530 with a 2.6 GHz i5, nvidia nvs 5400 GPU, 1600x900 display, 320GB HDD, and a 9-cell for $290 including shipping. Did I at least not get jewed? Bought it because a family member needed a $300 laptop that could play shit like GTA5 and WoW at decent enough settings, and didn't want an HP or Acer shittop.

Legit best IBM thinkpad to get? Doesn't necessarily have to be spec-wise but state you motives.

>>59874546
i have a T43 with 1.5GB ram, running arch on it. I dont know if this was a good idea though.

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>>59876116
By "IBM thinkpad" you mean IBM made or IBM logo?
If IBM made then I'd probably get T43 because it was the last one, I like owning "last one" laptops on various arbitrary categories.

If IBM logo then I'd get an AFFS 1600x1200 T60p and put T61 motherboard inside there

>>59876420
do you own a T43 ?

>>59874323
By the way, who wants an R500 for €40

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My mouse cursor keeps freezing every now and then, do you reckon the port is fucking up, or the mouse, or something else? It's very strange

Any thinkpads have a good enough display for photo editing? Pops is amateur photographer and wants to get a laptop. I recommended he get a cheap macbook but if I can find a decent alternative I'd rather convert him to thinkpads.

>>59876810
I wouldn't get a thinkpad if I needed a nice screen

>>59876755
do you use mouse, trackpoint, or trackpad?

>>59876869
Oh I should have specified, this happens when I use a mouse. Doesn't happen with the clit or trackpad. That's why I'm thinking it's a hardware issue. Actually I could probably just get a new mouse and see if it still happens, my current one is ancient and it's flown around a lot when I clumsily stumble out of my bed and trip on the wire. Which is why I suspect the mouse is pretty busted

>>59876937
In that case:
get a 1$ mouse and plug it in. not really helpful I know. also congrats you now have a spare mouse.

I assume you mean PS2 port. if USB, switch it to another USB port, obviously.

or if you're running linux you could try and do some port testing.

T420 gets really hot on dock. I'm guessing that chunk with the power button and eject mechanism blocks ventilation from the left side of the laptop. Any advice?

>>59876420
>AFFS 1600x1200 T60p and put T61 motherboard inside there
I have a spare T61, will do a Fankenpad if I have themoney, but tell me, why not simply get a T61 and install the AFFS screen of the T60? Would seem more reasonable, if it is possible.

>>59877599
Assuming you meant installing the screen in the T61, it's not possible because there aren't any 15" 4:3 T61s. There are 14" 4:3, 14" 16:10, and 15" 16:10 models only. The 15" 4:3 T60 uses the same motherboard as the smaller 14" 4:3 models, just with a small extension board to close the gap, and 14" 4:3 T61 motherboards are almost identical, so it's easy to swap one in.

>>59876810
Something with a ips screen

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X200 takes up to 8GB of DDR3 ram, right?

Anyone have an idea of the highest res monitor I could split screen to with the T420?

>>59878058
2k rez

none of FN + key functions work, not even the lamp on my X230, how can i check if its software or hardware problem?

Does the battery continue charging once it is full and the thinkpad is connected to the dock?
Thinkpad x220 running linux if it is software rather than hardware controlled.

>>59878366
that's a good question. I usually take out my battery when it's fully charged, then run it on the cable.

>>59876420
>If IBM made
"""IBM Made""""

They shut down the true IBM factories after the T3x series.

>>59877922
ye, sick another 4gb up your butt.

Any useful tips for a new ThinkPad user? I bought a X220 and an IPS screen mod. I read OP but I'm wondering if I'm missing anything to get the best experience. I intend to use it for basic use, light gaming and drawing (thus the screen mod).

Easter sale on the thinkpad website.

What's the difference between:
>512 SSD SATA3
>512 SSD SATA3 OPAL 2.0
They cost the same

>>59877922
Yes, I have an X200 tablet with 8GB.

But I've read it can potentially have up to 16GB, although I'm not sure if that works without any tweaking.

>>59878903
We don't help people who buy new from lenovo, lenovo is now a company purely for profit that does not care for its customers.

>getting a T420
>not a T430 with a T420 keyboard

Just got a T530 with an i7-3520M+8GB and the HD+ display for $200, couple of small cracks. Going to add an SSD in before I use it.

First thinkpad, want it to run linux on as a portable workstation type thing.
How bad did I fuck up senpai?

>>59879048
I'd say that's a pretty decent deal for an i7 with 8 GB RAM.

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>>59878930
I was just looking to reduce my swap thrashing, which was surely taking a toll on my SSD.
I found some 2GB sticks in some broken laptops I had lying around and they worked nicely, now I don't have to spend $60!

>>59879046
this tbqh

>better gpu, intel usb 3.0

>>59878903
encryption support on the ssd

>>59878818
X220 gets hot. Repaste as soon as possible, use h264ify plugin on Chrome/Firefox to prevent the CPU from melting

>>59879046
>implying chiclet keyboard isn't actually better

>>59880242
>6 row layout

If they swapped the caps but kept the 7 row people would be fine with it.

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How comfy are you lads

New thread:
>>59881227
>>59881227

>>59878216
Which OS?