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Intel = BTFO, Ryzen R5 wins

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Watch this Intel shill nigger:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HO20mmQjY40&t=0s
TLDR:
> For gaming, you either get a 7700K, or you get Ryzen 5, no point on getting i5's anymore.
> That's without even testing the 1600, 1500 and 1400
Is Gamer Nexus /ourChannel/ now? Is Ryzen 5 1600/1600X the official /g/ CPU?
> DESTROYS the core i5 on multitasking/productivity beucause 3x more threads
> Basically the same gaming performance, and even better on some games
> very future proof, since it has proven games aren't using all threads today (1600X getting the exact same performance as the 1800X on most games)
> cheap af, the 1600 probably gets the same performance as the 1600X when overclocked, is a 6-core/12-thread CPU and costs only $219 (when will Intel even be able to offer something like this?)
It's finally over, AMD delivered!
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>>59847770
No he's not, that fag needs to get a fucking haircut.

There's plenty of reviews that recommend the R5
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A very CPU stressing benchmark reporting in, R5 again shows to be the superior alternative.
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>mfw there's literally no reason to buy an i3 anymore and barely any reason to buy an i5
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Even Gamer Nexus admits R5 is the superior choice of white intelligent men.
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>>59847805
>Recommended: NO
>only on Japan, Chinese, Russian and Indonesian sites

Hilarious
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>>59847770
I'll accept slightly less performance to support Intel over AMD any day.
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>>59847973
>5.1GHz 7700k

Why are these guys benching with a fucking golden sample that only 20% of people can get, that needs a water loop and needs deliding ?
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>>59847770
And remember kids, all of those benchmarks were done on a GTX 1080, which is gimping AMD according to some Fury X benchmarks, if that is really true, Intel is dead
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>>59847866
Imagine when Ryzen 3 comes out
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>>59847947
>Countries with least amount of jews recommend Ryzen
rely mes u fink
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>>59848177
>No low clock 8 core ryzen using 10 w to use as a server.
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>>59847963
good goy
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>>59848247
>implying you can't underclock/undervolt Ryzen
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>>59848079
>i7-4790K at 4.0GHz is still faster than the R5 1500X that has the same clock speed and faster/higher bandwidth RAM
Wow that's total shite. Now we know Zen can't compete with even Haswell architecture per core.
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FASTEST 6-CORE CPU EVER
INTEL BTFO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ0SxpGzbw0
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>>59848298
> same clock speed
haha nope, the 4790 gets at 4.7GHz while Ryzen's wall is at 4GHz
> can't compete with even Haswell
Even Intel can't compete with Haswell, since none of their Kaby i5's can beat it.

Either way, the 1600X destroys the i7 4790K on every way, except gaming. If you enjoy being a corelet, get the Haswell.
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>>59848298
SELL YOUR INTEL CPU! SELL IT!
Get ryzen you good fucking goy!
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>>59848407
>stock
>STOCK
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>>59848298
The 4 core Zen performance doesn't even make sense, how can a similarly clocked same architecture with 50% more cores be 70% faster in a heavy threaded workload?
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>>59848418
7600k > 7700k makes even less sense then. It's just 4 threads.
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>>59848332
>vcore 2.0v
>AMD says above 1.375 can cause damage
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>>59848432
Uhh, the 7600k's performance is junk in Corona.
The 7700k is doing better than I expected it too, but hey, very high clocks and more cache + HT
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>>59848416
> i7 4790K stock clock speed: 4.4GHz
> Ryzen's max OC: 4GHz
My point is still valid, also Ryzen still has a higher IPC.
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>>59848445
It's fucking LN2 suicide run you retard.
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>>59848445
>Ln2 overclocking caring about the life of a motherboard, much less the CPU
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>>59848466
>>59848470
I know it's not meant to last, but I'm surprised it would even run at that vcore, and not just die the moment it tried to post.
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>>59848491
Silicon used to run at 3V, dude.
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>>59848418
He'll never say
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>>59848332
>that haircut

Why do people do this to themselves

>>59848501
The first-generation Pentium ran at 5V and was literally a housefire. Also, 486s ran at 5V too.
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>>59848298
Good goy, please keep paying $310 for our 3 year old CPU with 4-cores/8-threads, please don't get the R7 1700 which is a 8-core/16-thread with higher IPC for the same price, please don't do it! Your games will lag!
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>>59848418
What's happening here is that the 4 core Ryzen is only 2 cores per CCX, and since it has less room per CCX to handle threads without traversing to the other CCX(latency), it fills up faster and thus has to take more round trips than the 6 or 8 core, which respectively have 50% and 100% more breathing room in this case.

Anyhow, the R5 1600 seems like the best processor if you're overclocking, the 1600X if you're not.
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>>59847963
...why? So Intel won't have any competition so they can keep up with not making any progress while having a 65% profit margin?
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>>59848491
Vcore limits are super conservative. My 6600k has been at 1.49 for a bit over a year now and I use my computer 12+ hrs a day. I think Intel says the limit is 1.4. But yeah that chip might even still work, CPUs are fucking crazy.
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Gamers Nexus is an incompetent Intel shill central, watch Hardware Unboxed or AdoredTV for actual metrics and level-headed conclusions.
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>>59848418
They're using old benchmarks before BIOS updates and windows patches most likely
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>>59848516
>ignore the performance for the thing you will be doing most of the time
> REEE /v/ermin why wont you just buy a ryzen!!!
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>>59848572
>Hardware Unboxed or AdoredTV
Both shit.
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>>59848591
Go to bed Steve.
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> same price
Opps, sorry, the 1700 is actually only $319.
Please be a good goy use your extra $40 on the Intel CPU with stock cooler, please don't save that money on Ryzen to get a better cooler and get a nice overclock.
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>>59848572
computerbase.
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>>59848491
the AM3+ chips can survive pretty insane voltages without rapidly degrading
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>>59848614
SOI is nice.
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>>59848601
He's shit too.
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Guru3d and techpowerup are praising them as well, especially the six core ryzen.

Is it the new bang for buck performance king?
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>>59848572
>Gamers Nexus is an incompetent Intel shill central
Funny considering he said the choices now for gaming are an i7 or r5.
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>>59848572
>does tests
>posts results
>???
>shill
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>>59848638
Yes, it's a 6800k for $230.
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that's crazy I cant imagine sending 5 volts through a chip. Why doesn't amd make it so we can run our Ricans at 5v?
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>>59848602
meant for :>>59848298
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>>59848642
Doesn't count when he compared 7700k to ryzen 7 he said 7700k is better, he CLEARLY AN INTEL SHILL!
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>OC'd 2600K still blowing pretty much everything out of the water.

Who do people even buy new?
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>>59848642
Irrelevant, he's a fucking crybaby drama queen and needs a haircut.
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>>59848696
He's also incompetent.
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>>59847770
>$219
>$65 g4560 will get you i3 performance

Intel have already aggressively targeted budget cpu market to counter ryzen, AMD will not top that Pentium.

Current i5 owners will not change, they will get a good 5 years out of them. Current i7 wont either since the 6700k is a monster in these shitty /v/ benches.

Ryzen will struggle beyond undercutting x99
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>>59848673
Because NVMe, M2, USB 3.1, power consumption.
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>>59848673
Enjoy being a corelet
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>>59847770
AMD does not support 4k Netflix streaming nor does it support Intel Optane, nor WiGi
You're missing out on amazing technologies if you're buying AMD
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>>59848706
>$65 g4560 will get you i3 performance
That one will get BTFO on Ryzen 3 you retard, alongside with all the core i3's.
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>all intel i3/5s have terrible 0.1% lows
What is going on there
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>>59848729
>Optane
Oh fuck i laughed. More like DOAtane.
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>>59848706
Bruh, there's still r3 coming.
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>>59848706
R3 will beat the shit out of any budget Intel offering, and there's a shitton of people coming from Sandy Bridge and older machines
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>>59848739
Corelets/threadlets.
>>59848756
It starts at $129 so it's not g4560 competitor.
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>>59848735
At $65?
Dream on pajeet.
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>>59848739
4 cores stutter at 100% loads
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>>59848673
>running a fucking toaster because muh gaymes

Retard alert
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>>59848768
You don't know where it starts, it's basically the APUs with GPUs taken off, they can get those down to $120 for the quad cores and $80 for the dual cores.
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>>59848756
Well I guess it won't be as low as $65.
So yeah, intel will be unbeaten at the extreme budget.
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>>59848782
2/4 Zen will be worse than g4560 in everthing.
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>>59848706
>implying intel goyim won't "upgrade" every year
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>>59847770
Yet it still gets obliterated by the 7700k in every single benchmark out there. Literally no reason to buy Ryzen if you are a gamer.
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>>59848803
Got any benchmarks or a two core Zen?
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>>59848807
No one does that.
>>59848816
Wasting $350 on quadcore is retarded to say the least. Unless you're an autistic /v/ manchild.
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>>59848816
*chases shekel down the street*
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>>59848706
>>59848735
>>59848756
>>59848767
>>59848807
Base line r3 will be 2x more expensive than the Pentium.
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>>59848823
No-one has done a simulation of that because even the lowest end R3 is going to be 4 real cores.
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>>59848842
That's proper 4/4's so that's understandable.
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>>59848842
Models are wrong, prices are wrong, some of those SKUs don't even exist.

This is pure speculation.
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>>59848803
Good thing they aren't making one, dumbass.
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>>59848849
No they won't, there'll be 2 and I hope even 3 core as well, why? Because it's harvested from a 4 core APU, and unless AMD literally has 95% yields on them (as fucking if) there'll be 2 core variants
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>>59848816
there's no reason to be alive if you're a gamer.
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>>59848870
AMD hasn't done 2/4 or 2/2 for years and I doubt they're going to start now.
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>>59848803
Zen architecture allows for a 3-core/3-thread, that will probably be the lowest end that will be competing with the Pentium g4560 at that price-tag.

Also, those CPU's are targeted at poorfags, so who cares?
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>>59848909
Which CPUs are targeted at poorfags?
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>>59848882
You're dumb and can't follow basic logic patterns.

Let me retard it down for you.

R3 = APU
APU = 4 core + GPU
2 core comes from 4 core, because the 4 core decided it shiny womb called a wafer wanted an abortion
AMD sees little point in throwing a perfectly fine performing abortion out, so it'll sell it.

I hope nobody ever asks for your marketing and product positioning input
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>>59848870
>gpu is half the die
>gpu is broken
>shut it down
>get 4 core athlon.
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>>59848816
>obliterated
>10-15 FPS lead
>at 100+ FPS
>OCing that needs delid/watercooling/pricey motherboard
>4 cores 8 threads for $350
>on a dead socket with no upgrade path

You shills crack me up.
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>>59848935
R3's aren't APUs and still won't have integrated graphics.
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>>59848924
the $65 Pentium, no "gamer" or content creator would actually get a 2-core desktop CPU nowadays right?
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>>59848966
Intelfags are poorfags on demand, so yeah, they'll get it.
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>>59848966
It won't bottleneck a 1050 ti, so if you're destitute, it'll last for about a year or so before you can't play anything on it above 30 FPS.
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It sucks that there are still no decent µATX board out there.
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>>59848965
this, Raven Ridge are the APU's, and they will probably be fucking amazing.
I Imagine a 45W 6-core 2GHz laptop APU with an fucking great graphics that will BTFO Iris Pro
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>>59848882
Stoney Ridge is two Excavator modules, with SKU's with a single module enabled
Ie. They're dual cores and were launched late last year
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>>59847770
>no cooler
>no integrated gpu
>same price
>high risk of burning your house

Yeah no, I will stick with Intel
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>>59848966
>the $65 Pentium, no "gamer" or content creator would actually get a 2-core desktop CPU nowadays right
Except for the fact that the pentium g has better performance than even ryzen 5?
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>>59849012
RR tops at 4/8. And Iris Pro has laughable performance compared to GCN cores in APUs.
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>>59848861
Model names are wrong, everything else is correct, or most of it is correct (maybe some base/boost clocks are wrong).
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>>59849012
AMD confirmed that APU's will be sold under the Ryzen brand, R3's are APU's
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>>59849027
>no integrated gpu
What's wrong? Too poor to buy a graphics card?
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>>59849027
>no cooler
false
>no integrated gpu
who cares? Intel HD is utter shit, no point for it on desktops, only on laptops
> same price
bait right?
> high risk of burning your house
On Intel's side right? Ryzen has a much lower wattage.

8/10 shitpost tho
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>>59849027
>>no cooler
Wrong, shill. kys
>>no integrated gpu
Nobody cares, shill. kys
>>same price
Wrong, shill. kys
>>high risk of burning your house
Wrong, shill. kys
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>>59847770

I'm not buying Ryzen anytime soon since I got a 6700k for really cheap now that it's not the hottest shit anymore, but I'm very glad for this development.
AMD now offers a lineup that's very close to Intel flagships in performance while being cheaper most of the time. The 8cores were a bit of a letdown at that price outside of niche uses, but the 6cores look much more interesting.
Also with high IPC 6-8core CPU entering the mainstream market maybe soft and game developers will finally do some serious work on scaling.
All this means for Intel users are lower prices and probably finally some actual effort instead of "optimizations" like Kaby Kek.
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>>59849035
That is an excellent cherrypicked screenshot, shill. Please drink bleach.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcdmeGOsnss
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>>59849035
>Wow mom, I sure am proud of this picture!
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>>59848966

Fuck off /v/

For $250 you can have a HTPC
An extra $100 for a gpu has it play everything on the market, all the popular trash has very low system specs

Its upgrade path also has coffee and cannon refreshes to come
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>>59849027
>not posting my edit
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>>59849035
>pentium g has better performance than even ryzen 5
maybe in a world where performance is measured by one frame in one game. Then yes, the pentium performs even better than a 7700K if you look for it.
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>>59849085
>some actual effort
Another refresh and dieshrink?
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>>59849071
The 1600x and 1800x don't come with coolers.
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>>59849126
So that makes the 1600 an even better buy.
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>>59849027
Good goy.
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>>59849027
Why does this shitty version have 10 AMD cores?
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>implying I wouldn't order right this fucking minute a 1700X and a Taichi if it came with the Wraith Max cooler bundled for $400
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>>59849108
>>59849027

This analogy made sense back when all AMD has was the FX series. Now it just makes you look like an idiot that needs to fuck off to /vp/
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>>59849052
[citation required]
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>>59849131
Kind of stupid to not include a cooler considering the 1600 can be overclocked to at least 3.8ghz and can probably hit 4ghz.
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>>59849035
How empty are people's lives that they'll slow-mo through a youtube video looking for that one fraction of a second that'll rustle some jimmies? And let's not pretend this shit doesn't come from both sides.
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>>59849201
And they did, and it's a decent one.
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>>59849204
Its more sad than funny at this point
The amount of power your dollar gets you now is fantastic and everyone should be happy FX/bitcoin didnt kill AMD
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>>59849108
>>59849027
Fixed it for you ;^)
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>>59849027
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>>59849242
>i-if I just change the image i-it'll make it true!
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>>59849208
Not for the 1600x. Which was my point. The 1600x is only a good deal if you already have a cooler for it.
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>>59848870
You are autisitc
AMD themselves have stated there won't be 2-3 core CPUs

Any CCX with a defective core will be paired with another to make a six core and any with 2 cores defective, which will be rare, will likely be tossed.
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>>59849285
You're doing the same thing, faggot.

>hurr AyyMD is shit

Over and over and over through all Ryzen threads we had today.
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>>59849285
stay delusional corelet
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>>59848432
are you retarded? the 7700K is much faster than the 7600K in that pic
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>>59849131
>any ryzen
>a good buy
>when you could get the best gaming CPU in the world in the form of the 7700k instead
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>>59849035
I fucking hate faggots like you who post benches for games we know are absolute horseshit

IT'S FUCKING BETHESDA!
YOU COULD REPLACE ALL THE EMPLOYEES WITH PAJEETS AND GET A BETTER GAME THAN FALLOUT 4
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>>59849343
>maybe if I post this image over and over, my shitty $350 4 core will suddenly become relevant
Fuck off corelet
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>>59849343
and lose in all streaming/rendering/productivity tests?

No thanks

can an i7 7700K record GTAV at a 50,000 bit rate 1080p 60fps? Shit looks native when it's all said and done
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>>59849354
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>>59849343
Maybe the 100th time you post this gimmicky avatarfag image, it'll actually convince someone to buy Intel. Just kidding, you're a retarded shill wasting your time.
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>>59849387
Although CRF is way more useful than CBR, same power requirement though
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>>59849386
>AMDrones are also furfags
Didn't see that coming but it all makes sense now.
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>>59849304
>AMD themselves have stated there won't be 2-3 core CPUs
No they have not.
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>>59849396
Ahahaha

Rekt'd hard

Stupid AMD fans not even knowing what their favorite company is doing.
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>>59849386
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>>59849458
>195x193
Intel fags are also reslets.
Who would have guessed? Got any 640x480 benchmarks for us?
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>>59849464
It was back in february so we probably won't see the results until their next game. Or if we are lucky a fo4 or skyrim patch.
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>>59849459
Yes they have. They did it when they explicitly failed to list a sku with 2/3 cores
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>>59849292
The x versions are meant to be overclocked to the max...so a stock cooler would be pointless..
For moderate oc you buy the non x version with the stock cooler
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>>59849396
> yfw vulkan will become mainstream in your lifetime
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>>59849396
I never said they wouldn't optimize the code, or at least try to work together.

Honestly this is great, maybe AMD can convince Bethesda to finally use a game engine that isn't fucking garbage.
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>>59849146
I would order that this second if I could find the G.Skill flare X 3200 for a decent price.
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>>59848935
Summit Ridge doesn't have APUs yet. None of the R7s or R5s have APUs.
Do explain how you think an APU can just spawn on R3s by disabling cores, we'll be waiting.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ0SxpGzbw0

ln2 1600x (es sample on ES board with no practically bios) btfo'ing the 5820k at 5.9-6.2ghz
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>>59849560
Summit Ridge doesn't have an APU because Summit Ridge is a fucking codename for the HEDT processors.

Raven Ridge are the fucking APUs, and their rejects(disabled GPU) are likely gonna be R3's
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>>59849573
based AMD
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>>59849201
amd told me the reason they aren't including coolers on the x cpus is not to piss off third parties, and is why better coolers are not offered on lower end cpus.
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Yes AMD delivered, they delivered a batch of CPU's that perform worse than Intel offerings that cost less money.
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>>59847770
jesus the i5 lows are straight cancer

i feel bad for all the threadlets out there
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>>59849856
intel chuuni
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>>59849856
here's your yous
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>>59849227
>The amount of power your dollar gets you now is fantastic and everyone should be happy

Pretty much this.

Considering the massive library of games spanning from 1995 to 2017 that will run at 150fps+ on a $750 build, this is an amazing time for PC gaming.
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>>59849856
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>>59848614
Very true

>tfw you own an 1800x and am4 mobo but you're still waiting for ram and psu to come in and stuck on your aging venerable dreadnought until then.
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>>59847770
yeah, R7 and R5 are wonderful, whatever.
where the fuck is my 16c32t HEDT platform though?
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>>59848245
>$200 chip is being destroyed by a $350 chip

Oh jeez oh man AMD is finished, poo in loo am I right? haha
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>>59849856
Well at least price/performance is competitive now with a bit of extra fun for anyone who has multithreads work to do.
At least now AMD is recommendable. That's quite a step forward from the "I don't even know why people are buying these things" FX series.
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>>59850089
>destroyed on muh games.
this is destroying: 200usd chips sweeping the floor with 1500usd+ chips
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>>59847770
>Ryzen R5 wins
Hmm no sweetie, it actually gets beaten by intel's offering.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83NnGQ7tC0g

Both the i5 7500 and 7600k are still better choices for gaming.
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Wuba Luba dub dub
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>>59847770
Sorry I don't have much time to lurk, can someone link to me the temperature benchmarks?

I'm curious about the 1600, 1600x and the 1700 stock and OC range since I'm undecided between the 3 and I can't afford water cooling.
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>>59850152
>Buying a 4c/4t CPU on a dead socket
>2017
It's like you want to have an outdated machine by the end of this year.
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Ryzen is three times as expensive and barely faster than the competition.

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Pentium-G4560-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-1400/3892vs3922
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>>59850140
R5 1600 here I go
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>>59850152
Um, sorry hunny. Not this time.
Intel is only good if you like your games to be a stuttery mess.
Better luck next time doll face.
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Richfag /g/aymer here, is there any reason to care about AMD if price isn't a concern? I've had faggots on /v/ shill these 1700's and now the r5 series. I'm a bit skeptical tho.
>you have now the chance to make me support your curry-tech company
Is there any reason to even consider something like the 1800x?

Also are AMD fans always this angry? They're not that angry on /v/.
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>>59850182
Are you fucking retarded? It's like comparing a Core i5 7500 to the Pentium, Intel BTFO by Intel because the core i5 is 3x more expensive.

Ryzen 3 will chalenge the Pentium you fucking bongo
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>>59850158
OCing is pointless on the 1600X, almost no headroom. If probably go with the 1700 and OC.
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>>59850140
No one (who is reasonable) is arguing it isn't impressive and promising technology.
The issue is that they don't see Ryzen performing well in what's important to them, and that's fine.
I think a lot of us are just a bit disappointed that the benchmarks scores didn't translate well into games and we're left with more choices to make instead of one clear answer.
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>>59850152
>Both the i5 7500 and 7600k are still better choices for gaming

they aren't better choices for anything.
unironically recommending a locked 4c/4t against a 6c/12t
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>>59850207
If price isn't an issue, I would personally go with a i7 6950x on liquid cooling and dual 1080ti, muh 10-core/20-thread.
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>>59850207
It'll age better. But if money is no concern and you upgrade to the best parts as soon as they come out then get whatever performs better.
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>>59849396
The deal between AMD and Bethesda is for Id tech 6 engine and Quake.

Fallout 4 is Creation engine aka Gamebryo.
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>>59850202
Bitwit showed no stuttering on the i5s except for just a single game. Nice try though.
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>>59850212
Is the pentium is as fast as Ryzen 5 and Ryzen 3 will be as fast as the pentium, why should anyone buy Ryzen 5?
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>>59850207
The 1800X isn't worth it unless you need all that multicore performance. 1700 with fast RAMs seems like the best choice.

Most people are going to care about price, and over the long term, the i7-7700K won't give you any sort of upgrade path and won't be relevant nearly as long.

If you really need those extra 15 FPS though, and don't care that it won't perform as well in a few years, with no real upgrade path to speak of, get the i7-7700K. It's still an idiot move even if you're rich.
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>>59850237
Wouldn't most games rather benefit from 4 higher clocked cores instead of 10 runnign somewhere around 3.0-3.5 Ghz?
>>59850241
I don't upgrade as soon as something new comes out but I always put at least 1k bucks to the side in case something drastic comes out. I have around 3k lying around right now that I wouldn't mind losing.
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>>59850111
AMD managed to hold onto 13 percent of the desktop market with FX based hardware.

How much will they now that amd has cpus a person can recommend.
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>>59850207
No not really.
Most of the promise of Ryzen is what it means for the future.
Future optimisation promises to bring better performance to existing Ryzen CPUs and a lot of people are interesting in seeing how intel is going to respond.
If you're rich however you can just get the fastest CPU today, and then upgrade to whatever is better a year or 2 from now.
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>>59850182
>10% slower single core
>85% faster multicore speed

Oh but wait, I forgot, we're still back in 2001 where there wasn't a single multithreaded program or game to speak of. My bad, shill.
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>>59850182
>It's pulling the price from some shitty 3rd party seller on Amazon

It actually sells for $170 you cocksucking retard.
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>>59850283
In that case I'd go with the 1800x and G.Skil flare X 3200 RAM.
It's a new socket that'll be supported for 4ish years, where as Intel will drop the 1151 socket for their next CPU line up.
This means that if Zen+ (or Zen 2) is a huge upgrade you'll be able to sell the 1800x and upgrade without getting a new motherboard.
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>>59850292
I have a feeling Ryzen is really going to take off in laptops with the Raven Ridge APUs
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>>59850207
if are really richfag you probably won't mind waiting much longer because your hardware is most likely above par;and since budget is no concern, it would be best to hold on a bit either for AMD's rumored 16 cores or skylake hedt. Don't know about AMD, but intel x299 is rumored for june

https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/matthew-wilson/rumour-claims-intel-has-brought-forward-its-skylake-x-and-x299-launch/
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300 points behind stock 7700k

http://valid.x86.fr/kz2m83
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>>59850292
Who knows.
The PC market is the stupidest market i've ever been invested enough to monitor.
ATI ownership didn't even reach parity in the Terascale days even though the competition was house fire meming all over the place. nvidia had the faster card by 5FPS even though the cost of that was 50% more power draw.
And AMD CPUs didn't even manage to overtake intel when the pentium 4 was fucking terrible. The core 2 architecture tanked their sales too despite not being really that much better than AMD's stuff in those days.
If PC owners had any sense, no one would have bought a Fermi card for any reason and Intel would have gone out of business before sandybridge was even a twinkle in their eye.
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I'm actually going to buy a 1600 try to stop me
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>>59850292
14%

amd fanboy here, but never underestimate the power of marketing. and price fixing, collusion, real crimes, oem's coercion... or sheer stupidity
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>>59848572
>Hardware Unboxed
Not good.
>AdoredTV
Great. I know he's branded as having a bias with AMD, but he gives credit where it's due.

The only tech youtubers worth a shit are AdoredTV and L1.
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>>59850344
Honestly it pisses me off a little that AMD didn't start with that.
Smaller CPUs are cheaper and quicker to mass produce and they're a bigger market as AMD could also get into the OEM space that controls most of the industry.
Ryzen has the perf/watt if Ryzen 7 is anything to go by and Polaris, while not at pascal's level, is probably far better than intel's iGPUs in perf/watt. Intel iGPUs can be less efficient than discrete nvidia graphics on 28nm, it's pretty sad.
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>>59850421
Seems like a good choice to me, personally.

Benchmarks are all over the place but there is more than enough showing good performance with Ryzen.
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It looks like the 1600 is an incredible buy just like how the 5820k was a few years ago, except that it's considerably cheaper. The 1700 is still a nice buy for that extra bump in multi threaded performance and still very much close to the 1800x. Those two are solid buys and you can't go wrong with them. They aren't the top performers in gaymes, but they're good enough while having incredible performance in multitasking, compilation, encoding, and VMs; not to mention they also support ECC and can OC with practically every motherboard out there. Good shit.
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>>59850510
>Incredible buy

What is this the stock trading hour? Go fuck yourself with this language I hope you die horribly and your own parents skip your funeral you piece of shit get this bullshit out of /g/
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https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Processors/Ryzen-5-Review-1600X-and-1500X-Take-Core-i5/

>gaming is still a pain point for AMD as they work through the initial Ryzen launch. 1080p gaming performance is more important in Ryzen 5 than it was on Ryzen 7 and in truth the situation hasn't really changed over the last month. Though AMD did show the potential for improvement with optimization in Ashes of the Singularity: Escalation, it still has an uphill battle to deal with
>Gaming is still something to keep an eye on, and pure gamers will likely want to stick to Intel for now

Eat shit, Ryzendrones.
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>>59850470
>Honestly it pisses me off a little that AMD didn't start with that
probably because: Vega.
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>>59850466
>I know he's branded as having a bias with AMD
He's the one who started that whole "AMD CPUs with AMD GPUs is the silver bullet. Everyone is shills but me" faggotry.
He is definitely not undeserving of that brand.
I'll admit that's the only video of his i've seen but even before other people followed up on that I was disgusted with how self satisfied that guy got with results from on setup in one game that he started called everyone else narrow minded and stupid.
You've got awful taste.
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>>59850545
he gets mad at anons creating coherent sentences.
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>>59850466
>>AdoredTV
>Great. I know he's branded as having a bias with AMD, but he gives credit where it's due.

I think he's just invested in AMDs tech experiments and advancements of which sadly, most are rarely used by devs.
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>>59847770
>>59847831
>>59848079

Loses or matches a 2600K
Top kek

>Sandy bridge strong!
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>>59850603
No I get mad at people in /g/ speaking like marketeers
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>>59850617
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>>59850581
Nah, he's still pretty good. He has bashed Vega as the next coming of Fermi and has praised Nvidia's scummy tactics of being great businessmen. He literally bashed the 4core Ryzen chip several hours ago, he doesn't hold back.
On the >everyone else narrow minded and stupid, calling out everyone was well needed when the incompetence of tech journalists is way too high. Most don't talk about anything and just through numbers at your face. At that point, I'd just rather read an article goddammit.
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>>59850617
>no reason to upgrade from 2500k

fuck my life I can no longer live in a world where cpu are shit half a decade later

I bought into the meme,and the meme has lived to long
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>>59850680
>Nah, he's still pretty good. He has bashed Vega as the next coming of Fermi and has praised Nvidia's scummy tactics of being great businessmen
Non-partisan criticism does not necessarily make reliable reporting.
He just sounds like a cunt.
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Intel shills have been surprisingly quite about the r5s since release.
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>>59850723
>tfw the reason I need to upgrade my CPU is because my motherboard is dying, not inadequate performance
I did not see this coming. I would have bought a spare z77 motherboard when I had the chance if i knew they were going to be a fucking commodity in 2017
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>>59850723
>>59850834
kinda sucks 2bh meme prices on these older boards is retarded
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>>59847770
Stop being a bitch George.

-Paul
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>>59850866
I'd be fine with ~$200+ if they weren't also used or refurbished as it would still be cheaper than a new CPU+MB+RAM.
There's just no guarantee they won't be DOA or within 3 months and definitely no warranty.
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>>59850723
We are likely beginning to see the limits of silicon. Now software has to catch up with multithreading if we are going to see any significant improvements.
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>>59850777
There were threads earlier today full of them.
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>>59850905
Well we're definitely seeing the limits of GloFo with ryzen.
Fucking 4GHz max my ass. Stupid hacks.
They have one job!
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>>59850922
Only ones I saw were ones before the NDA lifted. Was still nothing compared to the r7 release.
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What's going to be the price-line for RX500 series? Worth waiting to replace RX4X0?
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>>59850998
Probably not, seeing as it's mostly a rebrand. Wait for Vega.
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>>59850998
If you have a 400 there is no reason to get a 500. The 500s are just overclocked 400s.
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>>59850998

lol fuck no

leaked images show most of the top ones being 6+8 pin
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>>59850157
The fuck?
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>>59851053
I thought Vega was going to be above the 400s in price. Or do they also include lower budget cards?
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>>59850207
>Also are AMD fans always this angry? They're not that angry on /v/.
We're sick to death of intel shills. And suddenly when we win for the first time since 2006, WE are criticized for being unbiased 'shills'.
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>>59849387
Fuck are you doing with 50k bitrate video? Are you planning to put that shit in a theater or something? There's little practical purpose for that, especially if it's just going on YouTube
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>>59851110
Nah. It'll probably be the same as the Fury line.

There will probably be the cut down air version. The full version on an AIO. And the TDP limited extra efficient nano version.

But if they don't let the full fat vega card out to the different OEM's to make their specialised versions, it'll flop. AMD needs to make the correct call here.
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>tons of keyboard warriors acting like the industry will give up on all their legacy software and start focusing on multi core threading, and utilizing 6+ cores anytime in the next couple years.
I actually like AMD, but I think some of you are just so gun-hoe that AMD after over a decade is finally starting to step back to the competition that you've become a bit delusional.
>b-b-but this d-d-developer made specific updates for ryzen, coincidentally right before their release, and look at these benchmarks!
Yea we get it, AMD paid a bunch of money to make people hopeful to buy their stuff.
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>>59851237
Do you actually think 4c/4t cpus have a future? If you have an i3, an old i5 or AMD and want to upgrade there is no reason to get anything but a 1500x or 1600 if your budget is under $250.
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>>59851141
6K looked like shit for me for some reason, that was using the very fast preset.

But read the linked post, CRF is far more effective than CBR
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>>59849325
me on the left
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>>59850186
>>59850202
>hunnie
>sweetie
Grandma is that you
>also
>THE CAPTCHA IS SECRETLY A BOTNET NEURAL NETWORK, ITS LEARNING
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Just give me the TLDR

I was planning on getting an i5 6600k to pair with a 1070

Has that changed?
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>>59851328
Yes. Any Intel chips that arent the Pentium G4620 or an i7 are enternally BTFO'd
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>>59851328
Depends. If you are willing to upgrade again in a couple years it's the best choice. Otherwise get a 1600 and overclock it.
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>>59851326
wuts the answer?
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so, encoding using handbrake is bias toward ryzen?
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>>59851354
Idk, i clicked refresh. Im done with high school english. I want my simple store front captcha
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>>59851328
Uhh check for sales as well m8.
The 1080 got a price drop due to the 1080ti, but the 1070 stayed the same price. This means that you can sometimes find a 1080 for just ~70 dollars more. Though if you're planning on gaming on an old monitor at 1080 60hz then the increased performance might not really be noticeable.
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>>59851328
R5 1600 has better performance per dollar and comes with a free, strong stock cooler. Trades blows with the 7600k and is more future-ready. You could use the extra cash to buy a GTX 1080 instead.
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>>59851328
Just look at those benchmarks, i5's are baiscally corelets now, for that price you should get the 6-core/12-thread R7 1600 or 1600X and overclock it, you will have a brutal advantage on multitasking, and essentially the same gaming performance.
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>>59851125
>We're sick to death of intel shills.
Right back at you

You and ur people spammed us with ryzen threads for months
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>>59851237
Have you never been to this board before?
/g/ only started accepting the failure of bulldozer once zen was on the horizon and have been telling anyone in the rig build threads to wait for zen for the last 12 months.
This board is to AMD as /pol/ is to trump.
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>>59851386
Anything but gaming is bias toward Ryzen.
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>>59851386
>7700k for a server build
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>>59851442
And in RAM. But even then, AMD is just slightly behind. The only reason Ryzen is regarded as worse than Intel in gaymen is because of the stupid R7 launch.
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>>59850248

Because when Prescott 2.0 came out next year with 6 cores, all Bentium will be an abortion when Bintel forced all devs to optimized their game for the new CPU.
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>>59849093
im watching this and for some reason the g4560 constantly has its GPUusage lower than the other set ups? anyone know why? i feel like if it was able to push the GPU a little harder it would perform even better.

related; does anyone have an ultra budget build based around the g4560? im looking to step up from a toaster but dont have the funds to build a monster so im trying to get maximum bang:buck ratios.
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>>59851534
>Bintel abortions devs
Thanks friend. That was a good kek
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>>59851560
High cpu usage and lower gpu usage means it's a cpu bottleneck.
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>>59851560
That's what a CPU bottleneck means, dickweed.
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>>59847770
Literally the same as my 4690

1700 oc for me
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>>59851349
>i7
thats btfo too
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>>59851600
except it doesnt stutter
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>>59847770

To be honest im thinking this whole Ryzen fanboyism here is just an elaborate ruse to cuck retards into getting an inferior product (to laugh at them? Idk why). I almost got jewed into getting Ryzen but canceled my order after seeing how far the 7700k is ahead of Ryzen in basically every game out there. In SOME well threaded and optimized games Ryzen manages to keep up, but the majority of games still show the 7700k sitting AT LEAST a comfortable 20 fps above the best Ryzen configurations.

I really wanted Ryzen to be competitive and stomp Jewtel to the curb but this is just a sad disappointment again. Hopefully Zen+/Zen2 will be better, if that doesnt manage to at the least match Intel then AMD is officially done for.
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>>59851579
>>59851592
guess i assumed that would hit/affect the CPU more obviously and the GPU less obviously.
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>>59851632
True for everything but single core. But the difference is so damn small to begin with in most cases.
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>>59851632
Just because you dont need extra performance at 1080p doesn't mean no one does.
If someone wants to validate their purchase of one of those 240Hz 1080p monitors they're going to need to go with intel for now.
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>>59851560

Welcome to modern gaming GPU, when it finally can run at 4k but your CPU always 100% all the time.
Back then it never happen because DX11 is so shit it forced all the workload in GPU instead of balancing them properly.
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>>59851650
The CPU is maxed out.
How much more obviously could it be affected?
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>>59851661
>one of those 240Hz 1080p
>one
yea one, its beyond niche its just a shitty meme just like the 7700k
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>>59851659
>single core
get the overlocked i3 then if thats all thats important
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>>59851683
i meant that i thought the GPU would not drop in usage. i just went back through and watched the CPU on all of them and it is plenty clear that its getting pegged.
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>>59851647
>in basically every game
For 4 years before ZEN came out /g/ always recommended i5 for gaming even when the i7 variant got slight advantage, because its too much money for small gain of performance and you don't need i7 for "only gaming"
Now when Ryzen finally came out everyone sucked i7 ass as if its the best price/perf for gaming.
How the fucking fuck this is related at all to AMD fanboyism when people who recommended i7 was actually the real hypocrite here who used i7 to let them stay in their comfort zone?
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>>59851694
>its beyond niche
Says you.
And besides, Ryzen can't push over 120-144Hz in most high end titles.
I'm not going to buy an i7 myself and am actually probably going to end up going with ryzen but don't expect to go around making exaggerated claims with no one calling you out on it.
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>>59851709
4 cores is still better than 2. Ryzen's better overall though.
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>>59851764
>4 cores
L O W E N D
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>>59851647
>7700k sitting AT LEAST a comfortable 20 fps above the best Ryzen configurations

That's a load of shit. 20 FPS difference is worst case scenario in a game that clearly needs to be patched.
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>>59851779
Yup. Six and above is the future!
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>>59851737

Because games now are starting to take advantage of Hypermeme. 4 years ago an i7 would do no better than an i5 as games barely made use of 4 threads back then.

Either way i dont see the point of intentionally getting an inferior product. The 7700k is clearly ahead in cpu bound games. I hate fagtal as much as you do but im not buying an inferior product so others can benefit off the competition it will bring.

I really hope Zen+ will be better but im afraid Intel has some trick up their sleeves that will make that irrelevant as well. THIS was supposed to be AMDs moment, and they failed at surprising people. Did they offer a good price performance ratio for those who need to do both gaming and workstation stuff but cant afford Intel HEDT? Sure. But they did not offer a meaningful alternative for the average consumer imo. No point in trading in better gaymen performance for more cores that you're never gonna use
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>>59851790
Fallout 4 is the only valid benchmark goyim
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New way to squeeze out some more gaymer performance from Ryzen
Notable minfps increases in some games.
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Why is Intel releasing new CPUs every year, anyways? It's the same shit with no performance boost, but Intelshills will say otherwise (and also game developers who will release patches every time Intel introduces new CPUs. Thus, making the same game slower on the old CPUs).

This is why Ryzen will blow Intel out of the water. They're not going to force you to upgrade every year because Ryzen is future proof (4 years).
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>>59851836
Hmm, this is pretty nice, I always thought single rank RAM was more expensive and faster since it needed less hoops to jump through and rank access was serial, not parallel.
Guess I was wrong
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>>59851846
I don't think anyone is saying intel CPUs have been improving.
Honestly I don't know why you people say "Intel shills will say..." "I hear intel shills saying..."
Are you talking about on other websites? Because I only hang out here and the only time i ever see that shit is blindingly obvious false flagging.
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>>59851846
Yea, instead of having to upgrade every year, you just have to trouble shoot and update your bios for 2 months, and then wait several years for more than 3 developers who were paid to give enough of a shit to stop building for single quad core rigs (which are the majority of their market)
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>>59851822
>But they did not offer a meaningful alternative for the average consumer imo.
If you think average consumer is the most people who buy i7 then you are dead wrong.
Average consumer specially gamer and low budget gamer who actually the biggest consumer only buy i5 to pentium line up.
With the new Kabylake, the i3 line up pretty much DOA because of the new Pentium G and the own retarded pricing.
>Buy the expensive one only get BTFO by cheapest i5 7400
>buy the cheapest one only get compare by Pentium G4560

Meanwhile R5 already came out with result that toe to toe with i5 that price higher or the same with them, but the most hurting review is someone showed that during the benchmark the i5 show that it got no more CPU overhead during the test, showing how their PC will got no more power to do any background task properly while still maintaining same average FPS with R5 equivalent.

The only thing that hold intel right now is the Pentium one and i7 for gaming,
even PCBG only recommended "either get g4560 or 7700k" all the time before R5 came out.
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>>59851909
Yes, but we also have shills here.
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>>59847770

I was so close to falling for Jewtel's tricks.

With jews, you lose.
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>>59851992
Then WHY is Intel releasing new CPUs every year with no performace boost unless they pay developers to cripple the last CPU
>>
is the pentium still worth it for a budget build or would ryzen 5 be better overall for any budget?
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>>59850834
>pricey EOL mobo

Thats intel for ya if you expect platform longevity. If you really have the long term money-no-problemo, you can get new intel releases all the way.

If you prefer not to change platform often or loves something until it really starts underperforming, amd.

Amd have pricey EOL mobo issue, but usually the platform is more than 10 years old.
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>>59852048
You'd have to be seriously broke to consider a G4560 build. It will stutter like crazy and will be CPU limited before the end of the year.
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>>59851992
kek, again?
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>>59851992
Just checked anandtech now, the 1600x vs intel i5 article.

Intel OBLITERATED in every test.
Well done with your fake image, with no source or whatsoever, you butthurt faggot
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>>59852080
Anon, you might want to redo your post.
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>>59852093
>>59851992

Not him, I was the guy who said R5 and i5 come toe to toe with shitty overhead happening with i5.
Thanks fuck someone actually proved this more by posting anandtech review and further proved my point.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/11244/the-amd-ryzen-5-1600x-vs-core-i5-review-twelve-threads-vs-four/15
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>>59848729
I guess you missed the news sk hynix SSD news

BTFO Optane DOA
http://www.zdnet.com/article/sk-hynix-develops-industrys-first-72-layer-3d-nand/

as for ryzen I think they are doing good for non-gaming but gaming is so second rate but its not bad ether so....

when will R3's be out anyway, just curious?
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>>59849070
>who cares? Intel HD is utter shit, no point for it on desktops, only on laptops

Not true anymore: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xp6ltBCMDCE
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>>59852151
That's fucking pathetic.

GT 730,lmao
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>>59852154
>its so fucking annoying seeing shills like you shit up this board
I JUST WANT A DISCUSSION ABOUT CPU.
I EVEN STILL RECOMMENDED THE PENTIUM G AND i7 IN MY POST
WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU WANT MORE FROM ME?

HOLY SHIT! YES I'M MAD!
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>>59852154
>the 7700k is the dominant CPU for all workloads
You gotta make the shilling a little less obvious, shekelmonger.
>>
http://www.agner.org/optimize/blog/read.php?i=49#120

Intel shills in full force
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>>59848673
because my z68 chipset got hot and now can't overclock, and it's easier and cheaper to buy ryzen than it's to get new mobo.
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>>59852154
>its so fucking annoying seeing shills like you shit up this board

>anon posts several times same image with random charts and random numbers
>checked on the source he provided, found the opposite except for two or three gaming benchmarks
>shills

Also, is this /v/? do you measure a good cpu only by gaming bechmarks?
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>>59850078
that ancient thing still shits on my a8-6600k with ease
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>>59851992
Low end APUs will outsell intel Low end CPUs by a mile.
And more in Laptops unless Intel releases their HBM IGPUs for the low end too which they wont.

You are a retard if you are buying AMD for CPU power alone.
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>>59852336
Semprom, Athlon and Phenom were really good CPUs.
Im still using my Athlon x2 250 since 2010 as a secondary computer and never fails.
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>>59851386
>objectively working faster in real world usage
>biased

no
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>>59852245
>do you measure a good cpu only by gaming bechmarks?

that's the new narrative, yes.
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Question, is the reason the Radeons do better than Geforce cards with Zen because AMD can optimize their GPU drivers for Zen, optimially use its its caches and take advantage of its unique topology? Maybe make use of some SIMD as well?

This is probably a good deal of performance right there
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>>59852151
That's even beyond utter trash.
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>>59852577
Of course they'd do that, it would be stupid not to.
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>>59852577
Radeon's dont do better with zen.
Just in tomb raider nvidia cards do especially bad with zen.
It's mostly the same in every other game except some DX11 titles where they do a bit worse because AMD DX11 drivers are pretty shit.
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>>59852737
What do you call this? And other DX12 titles?
Heck, even the 6900k loses a shitload of performance in DX12 on Nvidia cards
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>>59852773
DELET
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>>59852773
Looks like intel did way better with the 480 there too and they've run into a GPU bottleneck.
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>>59852773
Just a case of Nvidia drivers pissing themselves
>>
>Bought an i5-6500 back in August cause I really needed an upgrade back then since my rig was ancient
>Now I feel obsolete already with this 4c/4t Intel bullshit
Fucking AMD. Next time don't take so fucking long to release your shit.
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>>59853024

If you only do gaming, you will be fine for another 2 years.
Just close your browser and everything else in the background. :^)
>>
Is the consensus now that if you're too poor to afford an i7, but rich enough to afford an RX480/GTX 1060 3GB, you should buy Ryzen 3 or 5? And now all of i3 and i5 are eternally BTFO'd?
Intel i7>Ryzen 5>Ryzen 3>= Intel Pentium
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>>59853024
Should have bought I5-6600K.

Anyway your CPU will be good enough for years.
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>>59853050
>2 years
>Meanwhile I upgrade every 5-6 years
JUST
U
S
T
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>>59853024
>i5-6500
kek
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>>59853057
>Should have bought I5-6600K.
I don't plan to OC, ever. I can't be arsed and I have a pretty much silent system which would only become noisier if I start OC'ing.
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at this point im going to buy a r5 just to spite intel's viral marketing department. that it performs better than the i5s is icing ont he cake.

god damn you fucking shill fucks are obnoxious.
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>>59853057
>Suddenly i3 3 cores and i5 6 cores came out next year.
>Game Minimum recommendation : any intel i5 6 cores or amd r5 6cores
>because intel said so and fuck you, that's why.
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>>59853075
Even if you OC your build can be silent if you have a good heatsink, you just ignore the high temperatures.

>>59853088
>"Recommended settings"
Those are always fake, devs just put the lastest mid-high end CPU as the recommended one when a weaker and/or older one will work just fine.

Same for minimum settings.
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>>59853097

Fake or not, people always shit that up because they are retarded, not all people are tech savvy just like most of us.
I even bet some people actually take my joke post or any shit bait post seriously in this thread, that's how dumb people are.
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>>59853088
Tricore processors are very unlikely.
There's just not many configurations where they geometrically make sense so they tend to was space.
Most tri-cores in the past have been low binned quad cores with 1 core disabled. The only exception i'm aware of is this.
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>>59853097
>if you have a good heatsink
I have a Hyper 212x, still couldn't be arsed with OC'ing or having a more loud system, even if it's a minuscule increase. Sound really, really bothers me.

>you just ignore the high temperatures

You can't be serious.
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>>59853189

I...was...joking anon...
That doesn't even take more than 1 post, god damn it /g/!
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>>59853198
>You can't be serious.
With that it confirms me you have never overclocked.

But well its up to you, Noctua HSFs can dissipate heat really well and they're not loud at all, even under full load.
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>>59853216
Well then make it more obvious.
Moving to 6 core configurations is actually a viable direction intel could take.
Sarcasm that may seem obvious to you doesn't carry over text.
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>>59853230
>they're not loud at all, even under full load
Not for you maybe, like I said, I am really sensitive to sound.

And that's my argument in the first place, if I am never going to OC then why bother getting the 6600k over the 6500? Just to have a 300mhz increase? Useless.

Better get faster RAM instead (which is exactly what I did.
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>>59853254
>300MHz increase is useless
Not really, those 300MHz could save you buying a CPU the next 2 generations.
See people still using their I5-2500K and I5-4690K.

Faster RAM is useless unless you have a IGPU or play fallout.
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>>59853250
>Well then make it more obvious.
I already said that last line about intel.
Is 4chan already so thick these days, they can't handle a little joke?
No wonder people keep responding to a poster who reposting the same bait image for 1000 times a week
I really missed this place when people still more laid back in 2004.
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>>59853050
>Just close your browser and everything else in the background
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>>59853058
>Still using i3 2100 sandy

You guys won't believe how happy I am right now, I'm so ready to make this piece of shit into a keychain.
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>>59853377
>keychain
That's actually a cool idea. Why the fuck didn't I think of it before.
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>>59853292
Your joke was shit. Why didn't you give the i5 5 cores?
When you give it 6 it seems more like you're setting it up so the i3 has half the cores of the i5 like it is now.
The 6 core is a possible serious suggestion so it isn't funny. A 5 core is absurd and fits the theme of matching the model numbers with cores.
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>>59852126
>http://www.anandtech.com/show/11244/the-amd-ryzen-5-1600x-vs-core-i5-review-twelve-threads-vs-four/15

interesting read
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>>59853409
I just randomly giving i3 3 cores because i don't know how many cores the r3 will be.
And adding 6 cores to i5 because the anon i reply was expecting to get an r5 August ago.
You taking this joke too seriously again, good god I was right about this board.
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>>59851647
>game
>>>/v/
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>>59853443
I take things I think are serious seriously and when someone says they weren't serious I explain why i thought they were.
What is wrong with that?
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>>59853476
>What is wrong with that?

This shit >>59853114
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>>59853498
Oh I see.
I guess I walked into that.
I was wondering what "That doesn't even take more than 1 post, god damn it /g/!" meant.
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>>59851639
Yeah I hate that but for a almost 4 year old CPU it's doin ok
>>
tourist here, planning to buy a new pc soon. So as far i get it i can get a better cpu cheaper now thanks to amd?
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>>59854057
Say what?

If you are going to play games go for Intel, unless you find a good deal with a CPU+Motherboard dont buy AMD, Ryzen is not that good.
Check Microcenter for their CPU+$5-20 high end motherboard combo.

Also based from where you come from watch out how much you spend on it or you might have problems with customs.
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>>59854121
ok, thanks
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>>59854179
>blindly accepts
Sounds like someone who would buy Intel
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>>59854296
Microcenter has really good deals when it comes to combos, you can get a unlocked I5 and a Z270 motherboard for +- $280.

I remember i once got a G3258 and a MSI Z97 for $99 there.
>>
Anyone has the motherboard tier list that was posted a few days ago?
Other than moar ports is there any benefit from X370 chipset with 1600 CPU or would B350 be enough?

Also can I put laptop wifi in m.2 port?
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