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IF THE PAIN GOES ON I'M NOT GONNA MAKE ITTTTTT

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IF THE PAIN GOES ON I'M NOT GONNA MAKE ITTTTTT
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>amd proved to be shit again

Who would have thought
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>>59842454
>it's not the best ever therefore its shit

So, using your logic, you're shit?
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>>59842362
How well does the 6700k i7 fare against these?
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Meanwhile in non cherrypicked games.
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>>59842362
That kind of depends on which benchmarks you cherrypick OP
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>>59842774
Still lost in all benchmarks against the cpu it competes against.
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>>59842850
>1060
Is you retarded? Remove the gpu bottlenech in order to see which cpu is shit
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>>59842852
???
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>>59842852
I like it how your $170 i5 can overclock.
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>>59842869
yea, keep posting those old result
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>>59842869
>>59842362
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>>59842362
>7600k beating 7700k

INTEL IS FINISHED ANS BANKRUPT!!!!
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>>59842362
>fps for benchmarks
gay niggers
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>>59842888
Lmao you're such a cheap street shitter shitskin you had to compare your amd flaship 8 core against a dual core i3 in order to win a literally who test kys
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>>59842362

Why not link the actual video, cocksucking shill? And here's another one which concludes Ryzen is better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbK0n5FjvhI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NCHhn0xEmo
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>>59842904
But the 7600 is there, just like in OPs picture. The 1500x beats others anyways, and its cheaper.
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>>59842921
>i3 better than i5 7600K

INTEL IS FINISHED AND BANKRUPT
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>>59842912
See this, your hot poo loses to a fucking i3 lmao>>59842921
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>>59842945
Kill yourself retard.
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>tfw 3d and video renderingfag
I'm rock fucking hard right now
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>>59842970
Don't forget your kernel compile times, they are important for gentoo.
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>>59842990
>7 kernels per hour on the 1800X

Shit I can install 7 Gentoos at once!
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>>59842985
Kill yourself already.
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They are also great for compressing stuff.
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>>59843008
POO IN THE FUCKING LOO
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>>59843014
And for hiding your stuff from the NSA
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>>59843018
Kill yourself.
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>>59842990
>>59843001
>>59843014
Only benchmarks you could fake because no one gives enough of a shit about those things in order to debunk them. Kill yourselves neets
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Rise of the Tomb Raider contains extraneous CLFLUSH opcodes to work around an Intel errata which otherwise freezes the AVX it uses. Intel updated microcode which fixes the errata ignores the patterned flushes; AMD of course doesn't know about them, because they're Intel Confidential, so honours them, dropping the performance because it's really doing cache dumps to main RAM in one of the main loops.

Goes away when recompiled with VS2017, so Square-Enix are going to patch. Goes away when new microcode which ignores the same patterned flushes is used, too, and AMD are going to address in the next BIOS update.

Nice cherry picking. It's all above 60 anyway. If you're going to cherry-picking errata, how about that Avoton design fault? And I hope you're running a recent Linux kernel or Windows 10 on that Kaby Lake, because of the power state migration issue that slowly causes hardware failure if you're running anything without a workaround...
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>>59843060
INTELFAG ON SUICIDE WATCH
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I PUSH NY FINGERS INTO MY EYEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSS
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>>59843071
Or your indian cpu is shit like the people who made it?
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>>59843077
And now back in reality
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>>59843001
Truly these are blessed times we live in.
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>>59843089
Sure thing
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>>59843060
> Vidya benchmarks posted, the R5 does great.
> Office benchmarks posted, the R5 does great again.
> Video encoding stuff, the R5 does great.
> Compressing, compiling, and productivity. The Ryzens are monsters.

> B-BUT muh poo in loo

> >>59843077
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Honestly though it looks like Ruben l ryzen destroys Intel with literally anything written for multiprocessing. This launch has been pretty meh for gaming but one of the best for workstations.
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>>59843060
HA!
That's desperation if I ever saw it.
The results are totally inline with what was to be expected form any size Ryzen chip.
Good luck trying to say the intel ones are faked. Plenty of benchmarks prior to release to fuck your day even more Schlomo.
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>>59843114
And don't let me get started with Civ 6.
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>>59843117
It does a lot worse than the 7700k
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>>59843114
And at 4K it just gets worse.

>>59843144
Yup. But I was talking about the R5, not the R7. The R7 is not great for games though.

Against i5s with similar prices, its awesome.
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>>59842912
>>59842912
>HardwareUncucked
>LinusShillTips
AyyMDrones getting desperate.
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Did anyone test any board with the AGESA update yet? That's a significant DRAM latency decrease.
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>>59843140
>Civ 6
Literally fucking nothing.
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>being an intel fag or an amd fag

>not just buying whatever gives you the best bang for your buck

fuck you /g/
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>>59843216
VIAFAG ON SUICIDE WATCH
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>>59843192
>DRAM
>L1-L3 bandwidth went up by 12%, latency down by 10-15%

DRAM's jump is the biggest though, but that increase in cache bw and decrease in latency is no way a small thing
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>>59842362
JUST
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>wait for ryzen 5
>ryzen 5 actually delivers
the wait meme was real
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>>59843254
CHERRYPICK
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>>59843077
I think if this shitty day one benchmark that shows a 7-12 FPS difference gets posted one more time, the ultimate Jewtel God of shekels will awaken from his dark slumber and turn all of the faithful believers into jewgold for him to consume.
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>>59843114
>pre-patch benchmarks
Drink bleach, shill.

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-update-patch-game,34088.html
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>>59843172
Dumb frogposter.
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>>59842774
the bottom line here is that any CPU that costs $200 or more will deliver the exact same gaming performance

this is the worst tech argument ever happening on this board
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>A 6 core 12 thread processor beats a 4 core processor with about 15% more IPC in well threaded applications and doesn't in less well threaded applications
wow
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>>59843376
>and doesn't in less well threaded applications
no it still beats it

the r5 1500x, which is the 4c/8t ryzen, is the one maching/losing to an i5-7500

the 1600x beats an i5 in every task at 4.0ghz
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>retarded shill keeps posting old benches
Sad!
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>>59843255
>>ryzen 5 actually delivers
>despite benchmarks telling completely otherwise
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>>59843503
You are the worst avatarfaggot ever. Jump off a cliff.
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>>59842362
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4K7eIEAJx0

So apparently Salazar was spot-on all along. So much for "muh competitive performance" from Ryzentards.
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>>59843392
>the r5 1500x, which is the 4c/8t ryzen, is the one maching/losing to an i5-7500
>a similarly clocked Ryzen with SMT can't even beat a nonHT i5 in multi-threaded tests
You can't make this shit up
I want the AMD poojeets to deport themselves
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>>59843530
See
>>59842912
And then kill yourself.
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>>59843530
>nigger

Opinion discarded.
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>>59842362
Wouldn't it be nice if they could include the 6800k and 6900k in those charts for those of us that is more interested in processors with 6-8 cores.
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>>59843564
See >>59843172
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>>59843567
>AES
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>>59843376
>A $250 processor beats a $350 processor
Wow
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>>59843581
See
>>59843347
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>>59843575
Ryzen 5 thread, maybe you can lurk in a ryzen 7 thread
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>>59843530
http://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/2875-amd-r5-1600x-1500x-review-fading-i5-argument

>Yes, i5 CPUs still provide a decent experience – but for gaming, it’s starting to look like either you’re buying a 7700K, because it’s significantly ahead of R5 CPUs and it’s pretty well ahead of R7 CPUs, or you’re buying an R5 CPU.
>The current juggernauts are, interestingly, the i7-7700K and the R5 1600X with an overclock.
>If you’re already settling for an i5 from an i7, it’s not much of a jump to go for an R5 and benefit in better frametimes with thread-thrashing games.

How will i5 corelets ever recover?
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>>59843625
>R5 1600X with an overclock.

And not the 1600 with an overclock? This guy is an idiot.
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>>59843625
The i5 is a one-trick pony. Only Intel shills care about this shit.
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>>59843639
Well, it is Gamersnexus. These are the guys that duct taped SSDs and benched an i7-7700K at 5.1 GHz which is impossible for most people.
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So now the old tired i7 7700K argument is dead and buried what part are the Intel fans shilling now?
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>>59843639
BUT THOSE 50MHz HIGHER OVERCLOCKS FOR ONLY $40
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>>59843679
Whatever unpatched game or single core heavy workload they can get their hands on. It's all they have left.
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>>59843612
Ryzen 5 1600(x) are 6-core processors. Maybe you should figure out what Ryzen 5 is before you enter a Ryzen 5 thread.
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>>59843679
They'll probably go back to 4k Netflix
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>>59843679
>old tired i7 7700K argument is dead and buried
Except for the part where the i7-7700K murders all of the Ryzen CPUs at any game at all resolutions.
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>>59843702
>murders
>at 1080p
>with a Titan Xtendedpeepee
>with a whopping 10-15 FPS lead

kys desu famalam
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any benchmarks with Fallout 4?
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>>59843716
10-15 FPS lead at 100+ FPS, too. Seriously grasping at straws here.
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i5s are useless now.
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>>59842362
I bet this benchmark was done with an nvidia gimpcard
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>>59842852
Well, it's not like the intel parts it lost to doesn't cost almost twice as much and need twice as expensive mobos to OC
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>>59843745
Intel is useless now*
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>>59843745
AMD is setting their sights on the i3s and Pentiums next with their R3s. True quad cores with performance similar to i5s for the same price as Intel's shitty dual core i3s
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>>59843745
>i5s are useless now.
I hope so. Tho my 3570k is still kicking ass
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>>59843702
7700k is only good at 640x480
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>>59843792
>640x480
>not 320x240

Dumb AMDrone can't even game at 240p lmao
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hi /g/,
every graph featured the 7700k on tpu's review.
except the power consumption one.
dare I say, intel guidelines?
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>>59843780
Realistically, the i3's are overpriced as fuck as shown by the ridiculously cheap G4560 blowing them out of the water on price/performance. AMD can't really compete with Intel practically dumping dirt cheap Pentiums on the market.
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>>59843745
It's funny that Intel has been reduced to a single $350 SKU for their consumer line, out of some 20+
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>>59843859
And you still need to delid the fucking thing or buy an expensive watercooler to get the kind of results most benchmarks are showing.
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>>59843822
other notable exceptions were intel's hedt.
and the 1800x is also absent on several comparisons, which is weird since they have fairly recent new batches of tests for it.
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>>59842774
>>59842850
>>59842871
>>59842888
>>59842990
>>59843014
>>59843117
>>59843140
>>59843169

Intel is infinitely shittier at literally everything now. Gotta wait for the 7740k I guess.
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>>59843877
DELID THIS
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>>59843693
And 6 core Intel CPUs are $400+ so you are in the wrong thread. Again.
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>>59843859
Just wait for the 7740k
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>>59843822
>r5s having higher power consumption than the i5s
Check mate, AyyMD.
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>>59843894
>wait for the 7740K
That extra 100 MHz OC headroom is really gonna blow AMD out of the water.
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>>59843822
I mean even the reviews are enthusiastically positive, there's still some kikery and shilling to be found.
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>>59843144
>it does a lot worse than the best gaming cpu out there
w-wow!!!
also it's everything but "a lot worse". it's worse but not by a lot
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>>59843910
yeah kid, whatever. just go stuff random objects into your butt and stop shitposting.
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>>59843910
Why is that two core using only 20 watts less than AMD's 8 core, which for some reason uses as much power as Intel 4 cores.
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>>59843897
and the i7 7700k that shows up in these charts are closer to 350 dollars. You don't disqualify a processor due to price. If you did that, most of the pentium, i3, and i7 processors wouldn't even be on the chart either.

For those interested in getting a 6 core processor, seeing the performance difference between a Ryzen 5 1600 and an i7 6800k is more important than how the Ryzen 5 1600 compares to a four core processor.
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>>59842912
Please delete
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>>59843974
It's funny because the 7700k actually does better in multi threaded apps than 6 core 1600x and absolutely demolishes it in single threaded. Amd managed to fuck up again, like always
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>>59843944
>>59843961
I thought Ryzen's power efficiency was supposed to be its main selling point? Eat shit Ryzendrone.
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>>59843904
On a fucking expensive HEDT new socket that costs more than the CPU itself.
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>>59844017
Either way, 1600x is a failure. It loses in multi threaded benchmarks to it's 6 core competitor, 6800k and gets DESTROYED in single threaded by 7700k
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>>59843649
>>59843639
>>59843625
This is a huge blow since many people just get the i5 since

>Needing anymore then a i5 for games
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>>59844005
It costs $100 less and doesn't require a more expensive OC-capable motherboard. What are you even trying to prove here, retard? At least compare it to the i5-7500.
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>>59844011
>>59844011
Are we just pretending to be retarded at this point?
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>>59844044
>pls compare my shit to an locked cpu plzzzzzzzzz

Lol no retard, your hexa core cpu is getting RAVAGED by a 4 core 7700k
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>>59844037
>i7-6800K
>$600
>R5-1600X
>$250

Are you on drugs? Like actual, real physical drugs that you bought from a dealer on the street?
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>>59844037
No way it gets destroyed by a CPU 100 bucks more expensive, that's to be expected. At this point you're just grasping at straws. Have fun with your overpriced 4 cores that are only useful in niche single-threaded applications and a couple of unoptimized ports of past-gen consoles.
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>>59844065
You know nobody is falling for this "Comparing CPUs across completely different pricing tiers" shit, right? Man, Intel really needs to hire some better shills. They even cheaped out on that.
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>>59844066
Not everyone is a poor indian... there are actual people in the west who don't care about 10 bucks and would rather get the performance.
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>>59844093
>10 bucks
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>>59843910
>>59843822
All of the currently released Ryzen parts have SMT and more cache both of which can contribute to higher power usage. The six core parts in there also have two additional cores compared to the i5s and i7s there.
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>>59844093
Get a 6950X, while I'll get the 16 core Ryzen.

You're not poor, are you?
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>>59844093
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>>59844052
Well your poozen is running at 3 ghz while intel gets to almost 5ghz with only 1 celsius more.
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>>59844093
>inb4 I was just pretending
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>>59844037
>It loses in multi threaded benchmarks to it's 6 core competitor, 6800k
Yeah and the 1600X erases the Celerons from existence so what's your point?
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>>59844108
Look a little better, the 1700 there uses as much power as 4 core parts there.
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>>59844078
Dude your HEXA CORE cpu loses to a QUAD CORE cpu. There's no way in hell you can defend that unless you're an actual indian street shitter. Stop embarassing yourself
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>>59844112
There's a downclocked delidlake included for comparison :P
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>>59842362
What is the performance of r1700. With hardware pass through were one ccx is windows doing gaymening and one ccx is Linux ?
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>>59844121
I noticed but the R5s also have higher base clocks. The R7 1700 and that i3 at the top are the lowest clocked parts there.
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>>59844127
>5% difference in games that use 4 cores
>while demolishing it in MT work

Want some consolation cookies?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZDHBzoA-ns
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>>59844160
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>>59842872
It can
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>>59844160
TWO CORES IS ALL YOU NEED
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>>59844160
>twice the threads
>2MB more L3$
>same result as the 7600K
Jesus christ, how did AMD fuck up the 1500X that badly?
And where is the 7700K result in that chart? Something's awfully fucky.
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>>59844156
sorry it's an i5 7400
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>1600x faster than 1700
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At least amd's 8 core flagship beats an i3..oh wait
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1600X is a waste of money, 280€ here.
Might as well go for the 1700 with a cooler.

The 1600 should be able to do 3.8Ghz at decent Vcore, atleast I hope so.
I don't want my power consumption to skyrocket.
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>>59842774

>Meanwhile when I boost the average using that non-game AotS sponsored by AMD...
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>>59844207
>30% OC over base
>I don't want my power consumption to skyrocket

Are you perchance retarded?
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>>59844207
Just get a 7600k if you care about money
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>>59844207
1600 and 1700 are the only CPUs worth looking for if you're overclocking.
If you're not then the 1700X or 1600X are your choices.
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>>59843172

At least he didn't post AdoredTV.

That dude is getting fucking desperate, did you see his Titan Xp video? He's actually trying to spin the idea of stronger GPU releases as a bad thing while shilling RX 580 rebrands.

His handler at AMD must be cracking the whip right across his ass.
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>>59844195
Wow it's the exact same old pre-patch benchmark that was posted in the other thread. Eat shit and die, faggot.

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-update-patch-game,34088.html
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>>59844180
> Something's awfully fucky.
It's literally an AMD rigged chart. Wait for better benchmarks.
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>>59844231
>7600k
>worth the shit silicon it's etched on
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>>59844184
The R7s have lower base clocks but higher core counts. They're very impressive against the processors they were intended to compete against but they're not suitable for every situation, software just isn't there yet.
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>>59844195
>obsolete benchmark

Intel shills truly are the most retarded people in all possible universes
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>>59844255
Kill yourself.
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>>59844255
You must be clinically retarded or at least a decent shitposter.
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>>59844231
Not really I think,
the 1600 seems very good for its price due to its cooler and productivity value.
Gaming is a bit lower (for now at least, lack of optimization is evident in games) but for its multitasking values that is worth it honestly.
>t.1700 user
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>>59843114
Did you crop the image just so you could post the same benchmark from before the patch, twice?
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>>59844266
Sorry to break it to you indian tech support, but normal people don't install linux every hour or so, here's a real world test
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>>59844266
There's no real difference in gaming but it demolishes the i5's in MT work, so I see no reason for the i5's to exist.

Maybe for 4k Netflix support? Lmao
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>>59844277
>>59844289

Try to wait longer than just 1 minute between your samefagging, makes it too obvious (go ahead wasting your time posting an inspect element screenshot now in response to this).

I'm sorry that as AMD shills you're so used to the same card being released every year that you've become scared of the idea of power increases between generations, but I promise one day you'll get used to it.
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>>59843077
>average only 12 fps behind in all games on day 0 benchmarks
Man am I sure on suicide watch. 60 frames vs 90 frames is noticeable, 100 frames vs 112 frames is not that much at all.
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>>59844132
Fuckin' saved.
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>>59844312
>no different in gaming
>where even an i3 edges out amd's 1800x

You are deluded
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>>59844310
>best binned Ryzen 7 losing to a fucking pentium g
God what an utter fucking failure Ryzen is
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>>59844277
>>59844289
>Exactly 60 seconds apart

AMD shills are this pathetic.
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>>59844289
You're feeding him, then it's the latter.
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>>59844312
>There's no real difference in gaming
Your image kinda show the opposite
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>>59843216
>and both engineer hardware backdoors into their cpus
This
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>>59844132
Shit, there's a forth one?
There goes my no fap April.
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>>59844356
I don't give a fuck about 10% difference in games AMD or Intel, it's negligible, especially at 100FPS+

But a difference in 60%+ in multithreaded shit is indeed very fucking noticeable.
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>>59844266
i love these

Who is doing Rendering with an i5? why would you do that?
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>>59844310
>Fallout 4
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>>59844373
But some people here have literally been committing sudoku over a 10% difference in gaming the last month.
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>>59844373
Human eye can see up to 240fps. Fuck off with your broscience
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>>59844384
I had an excruciating time transcoding an hour long video on my i5 a week ago.
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>>59844005
>It's funny because the 7700k actually gets demolished in multi threaded programs than Ryzen and is slightly above par in single threaded
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>>59842362
so according to this op, the 7600 is better than the 7700?
well according to op's benchmark the 7700 is a failure too. loosing to a humble 7600.

it really made me thank and i now selling my 7700 for 7600
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>>59844310
>>59844340
Nobody cares about your day one benchmark of a poorly optimized shitheap of a game, shekelchaser. Stop samefagging.
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>>59844179
>tfw fell for this meme and bought a g3258 a few years ago.
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Fuck, it seems it's time for another three weeks of non stop shitposting.
It looks like the 1600 is an incredible buy just like how the 5820k was a few years ago, except that it's considerably cheaper. The 1700 is still a nice buy for that extra bump in multi threaded performance and still very much close to the 1800x. Those two are solid buys and you can't go wrong with them. They aren't the top performers, but they bring solid performance in gaymes and incredible performance in multitasking, compilation, encoding, and VMs; not to mention they also support ECC and can OC with practically every motherboard out there. Good shit.
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Meh, going over $200 for a purely gaming CPU doesn't seem worth it, especially if you play higher than 1080p
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>>59844442
Don't reply to them, ut's obvious that they want your (You)s.
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>>59844310
of course you'd bring that up...
cause it makes you look real bad.
I mean, assblasted.
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>>59844461
If you do more than gaming then I see no reason to not get a 8 core, you also get the benefit of higher minimums in muhgayms

Though for normalfags even a fucking 2 core Pentium will do, what do these guys play other than Farmwille?
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>>59844511
>linux kernel
It's like you want to be called a loser
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>>59844373
This is why Intlel is obsolete.
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>>59844459
I'd upgrade to a 1600 right now if I weren't fucking broke.
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>>59844266
The 1600X looks like it handles basically everything well. That thing is a beast for the price.
>>
>no amount of samefagging from 3 street shitters will change the fact that a hexa core amd cpu is slower than a quad core intel cpu in multi threaded apps
Kek
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>>59844373
Only /v/eddit gamers have a tantrum over a few FPS difference.
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>>59844559
The 1600 is even better, it's $50 cheaper and can overclock the same on B350 motherboards (just be sure to have 6+ phases)
It's basically 1700 vs 1700X again

The X models are only worth it if you won't overclock, and I guess most people won't.
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>>59844577
And said apps are?
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>>59844586
and /v/eddit gamers are the ones that will fuck over AMD for it
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>>59844459
don't mention ecc anon, intel says poor people, I mean maintream end users, don't need that because it's way too expensive to implement -- as in almost nothing, but has an outstanding perception of value.
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>>59844592
Ryzen models are only worth it if you live in poverty and don't care about performance
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>>59844577
>hexa core amd cpu is slower than a quad core intel cpu in multi threaded apps
>source: my ass
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>>59844540
sure kid
>>
>get a 7700k
>have to close everything else so that it won't stutter

BEST GAYMING CPU
>>
>linus review was the only one I saw that r5 was that far behind
really fire those neurons
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>>59844627
kek
I need some CPU utilization with all of these benches. I'm sure the quads are being used to the limit while 6cores+ have headroom left.
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>>59844609
Has Intel stopped paying you and you've literally become delirious, like some kind of automated no-consciousness shilling robot?
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>>59844652
That's always the thing. That's fucking why I bought 5820k. Good CPU, but mobo prices, egh, and it had even worse launch than Ryzen.
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>>59844655
Oh God I love Intel's dedication to stuttering.
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>>59844627
Excuse me while I render 10 hours of 8k and stream on twitch while playing 3 simultaneous anime games at the same time and compile kernels so I can brag to other losers on my anime safespace
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>>59844600
The examples are everywhere already you fucking AMDrone.
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>>59844673
For some fuckretarded reason ever their octacores stutter. Which is fucking weird.
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>>59844655
>amd 1800x
>against a locked i5
Yeah poojer you're not full of shit at all, I'm sure you'll fool a lot of people
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>>59844681
Post them, Ramesh.
>>59844697
>I only read what I want to
Rajeesh please be less obvious.
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>>59844676
that's awesome.
you tried to to put a negative spin on it but it just made me diamonds.
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Is this the Intel buyer's remorse thread?
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>>59844724
No, but it feels like everyone on /g/ went bonkers. People unironically praising Intel for giving less for more. What the fuck is wrong with you people?
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>>59844724
I brought their medication.
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>>59844676
Ryzen could probably pull this off.

Intlel would just explode.
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>>59844737
It actually gives more for more you braindead indian. How many games do you need to see tested to realize that 7700k ravages any amd chip at any resolution?
>>
>AMD Ryzen 5 1600X, 1600, 1500X & 1400 test: kings of the middle class

https://www.computerbase.de/2017-04/amd-ryzen-5-test/

Being a corelet is suffering.
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>>59844724
It's intel buyer's remorse semester.
cognitive dissonce abounds here.
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>>59844737
It's just shills and trolls samefagging over and over with "pajeet" and "poo in loo".
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>>59844756
>games
Since when CPUs exist solely for gaymen?
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>>59844756
7700k is only good at pixelated resolutions.
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>>59844756
>only games
Oh fuck off.
You know it's optimization at hand pleb.
Also games with 4 cores only are not gonna be here for much longer, why not spend LESS and get better productivity/multitasking with the R7s
It's all about value you corelet
Also here's your (You) you bait SHITposter.
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>>59844752
There was a guy that ran 4 games at once and it ran fine, fuck me if I can find it on youtube
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>>59844773
>>59844777
Half core cpu pushes 200 more frames every second than amd's top shit. Don't forget it costs half as much. You can defend street shitters as much as you want. I'm objective in this and don't favor any brand but intel just DESTROYS amd in gaming right now. Maybe amd will learn for next generation.
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>>59844760
America should have bombed those Nazi fucks more, fuck them!
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>>59844819
Here's the picture
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>>59844819
>>59844840
You are losing-all-faith-in-humanity levels of stupid.
>>
So the trend I keep seeing and hearing from reviewers, is that Ryzen might not have higher frame rates but it has more consistent minimums and quicker frame timings while benefiting from games that utilize multithreading and undercutting intel's pricing.

i wonder if this will encourage intel to include multithreading in all of their future products.
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>>59844849
You have nothing but cheap insults you spout out of despair. Accept it, you shit lost hard. A normal buyer who isn't a anime failure neet will look at the benchmarks and pick intel over amd anyday.
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>>59844862
Intel has higher low fps too. Look right in the op>>59842362
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>>59844877
Kill yourself.
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>>59844877
This!!! I just went and bought two 7700Ks today and they will go in the high powered gaming computer for me and my wife's son after seeing all these abysmal Ryzen results.
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Wait for 7740K
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>>59844877
a normie intel shill.
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>>59844899
Is this where we pretend Intel isn't stuttering garbage?

But hey, you guys are practically down from 5 games shill with to two, and one of those has already been patched.
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>>59844940
JustWait™

>>59844929
see
>>59844916
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>>59844929
I'm being real with you my man. The average consumer will see the benchmarks and how 7700k rips though amd'd shit in games, and I can assure you they will get the i7 since it does a lot better in games. Nobody cares about 1 second faster linux kernel compiling, especially paying amd $600 just for that.
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>>59844959
>that 7400

Does Intel have anything more than a 7700k and a 6950X(maybe someone really needs the 4 channels) now?
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>>59844877
let's post Amada in order to induce a heart attack on him.
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>>59844982
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>>59842774
>Gonna test a CPU using GPU bounded games
Noice
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>>59844760
Intel is shit at literally everything. Everyone knows this.
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>>59844978
They have dirt cheap Pentium G4560's that destroy their own i3 lineup.
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>>59844877
>>59845007
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>>59844956
Can someone explain to me how he is wrong? Is there something I'm missing?

The 7700 does indeed win in every benchmark when it comes to gaming at a similar price point as the AMD competing processors
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>>59845049
Because to get those results you need to either delid or spend a ton of money on an expensive watercooler. And a high end motherboard.
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>>59845023
Yeah, but that's for dedicated facebook machines.
minframes on dual cores are atrocious, even on the i5's they're atrocious.
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>>59845049
You're trying to argue with some fat neckbeard who is wearing cum stained clothes from jerking off to anime in his own room lol, normal people can see through their horseshit anyway
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>>59845069
Calm down, IMAX
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>249 replies
>54 posters

ITT: intelcucks with buyer's remorse samefagging in desperation
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>>59845049
>he
>>
Fucking racists in here attacking Intel only because it's a Jewish company!


There is no room for hate here!!

Go to pol for that low IQ shit!!!!!
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>>59844877
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>>59845049
Yes, it does in fact "win", however the margin by which it wins is so small (10-15 FPS at 100+ FPS) that it's not worth buying into a dead socket with no upgradeability and poor future prospects for optimization. Plus what >>59845066 said
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>>59844965
No one buy 7700k. That is a normfag,the buy the 7600k cause they aren't gonna spend 100 bucks for less frames or same amount fag.
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>>59845117
Greetings from InTel Aviv
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>>59843915
The new socket will have some insane secret sauce that'll blow those shitty AMDPajeets out of the water, just you wait.
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>>59844877
>>59844929
>>59844965
>>59845049
>>59845069

with this I will banish him for sure.
vanu shi mento dis uroudo!
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>>59845182
New Intel cores:

Cannon Wait
Wait Lake

JustWait™
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>>59845211
>Cannon Delayke
>Ice Wait
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>>59845182
We know it'll at least blow something up.
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>>59845182
>Giving a shit about Intel

Why wouldn't you buy a couple know, get better bang for your buck then sell the CPU,get the new and CPU later on instead of buying a new mb CPU combo Everytime?
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>>59845235
>7740K
>4 cores
>112W TDP

DOA.
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>>59845235
The delidding cottage industry?
>>
The landscape changed so fucking fast in just a month, it's hilarious that Intel's mainstream 6 core (which is still kabylake aka skylake) is coming out in like Q1 or something, meanwhile Pinnacle Ridge is coming out at the same time and it's another expected 10%+ IPC boost on top of higher clocks.
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>>59845245
It's hilarious that Intel's response is a 100MHz higher clocked housefire, literally Preshot all over again.
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>>59845182
he is unironically thankful for another needless new socket.
It's like you enjoy being raped every other semester.
omedetou anon.
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>>59845117
>>
Does GloFo have 7nm ready?
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>>59845293
Buyer's remorse.
>>
Post more Amada.
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>>59845301
2019 mass production, I can't wait to see what SOI on FinFETs can do.

Based fucking IBM
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>>59845231
I'm not very good with puns.
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>>59845301
does intel have 10nm already?
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>>59845231
>not Yieldlake


Though no way to beat the delidlake, that was genius
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>>59845362
Kike Lake? Can't be used outside 4chan, though, for obvious reasons.
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HOW CAN YOU SEE INTO MY EYES LIKE OPEN DOORS
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>>59845349
Soon, shipping to vendors on Christmas for 2 cores, 4 cores in Q3 2018(if they even manage to get yields decent for a quad core)

Cannonlake seriously looks like another Broadwell mess.
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LEADING YOU DOWN INTO MY CORE WHERE I'VE BECOME SO NUMB
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>>59845138
>>59845148
>>59845069
>>59845066
So, brand wars aside. I have a spare $600.
Which CPU I should I get for 144hz 1440p gaming?
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>>59845382
>$250 + $180 motherboard Intel compared to a $180 AMD

These tests are hilarious
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>>59845398
>4c/8t raped by a 4c/4t
CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP
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WITHOUT A SOUL MY SPIRIT'S SLEEPING SOMEWHERE COLD
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>>59845400
First post your monitor so I can laugh at your choice.
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>>59845388
No
>>59845398
>>59845414
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UNTIL YOU FIND IT THERE AND LEAD IT BACK HOME
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>>59845417
Patched games aren't fair.

My DAY ONE BENCMARKS
MY BENCHMARKS ON AN ASUS BOARD WITH CONSTANT CRASHES
BIOS UPDATES AREN'T FAIR TOO, INTEL DOESN'T GET BIOS UPDATES!
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I STILL GOT ALL MY FINGERS BUT SOMEWHERE I LOST MY MIND
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>>59844461

>Ryzen 7 comes out
>Meh, more than $300 for a cpu just for gaming is a waste of money anyway
>Ryzen 5 comes out
>Meh, more than $200 for a cpu just for gaming is a waste of money anyway

Somebody do an edit to that jew comic ending with "a $100 cpu is all you need" for when Ryzen 3 comes out.
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>>59845447
Intel doesn't need BIOS updates, everything just works OOTB.

http://www.xtremerigs.net/2014/10/24/asus-critical-bug-fix-bios-for-x99-deluxe/
>literally pulling a Fermi with the HEDT line

https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?78607-Asus-Confirmed-yesterday-that-X99-boards-has-boot-issues-with-Usb-Hubs-connected
>can't even boot properly

It also has the same problem Ryzen had at launch, meaning it needed a QVL RAM list to get any higher memory speeds working.


Get a trip.
Intel is buggy as shit on a 6 year old architecture, how shameless.
>>
>>59845499
May i honestly ask
WHAT THE FUCK NOVIDEO
WHAT
THE
LIKE
ACTUAL FUCK.
NVIDIA's supposed to have good fucking drivers.
>>
>>59845499
>480 at the same performance as a 1070 in Civ

Oh jesus christ kill me now
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>>59845417
holy shit what a disaster
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does this actually mean anything?
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>>59845422
ASUS PG279Q
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>>59845526
>>59845535
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>>59845551
CPU-Z bench is sensetive to size of L2$ which is bigger in case of Ryzen. SKL/KBL is still ~7% higher on average, IPC-wise.
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>>59845551
No, other than knowing that Ryzen has serious Multithreaded performance and very good SMT with some 6% less IPC than Kabylake
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>>59844978
>6950X(maybe someone really needs the 4 channels)
Let's face it, anyone looking to drop that much cash on a CPU isn't going to be looking at consumer or "prosumer" shit.
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>>59845556
Well then, to answer your questions look at benchmarks?


Here's 1440p >>59842774
The higher core CPUs are gonna have higher minimums and are more futureproof unless you upgrade your CPU every year, keep that in mind.
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>>59843679
Only the dual core hyperthreaded pentium is left, I hope AMD soon starts selling budget r3s because right now that's the only segment where intel is still on top. It will be a clean sweep after the sub 100 bucks parts and the server stuff comes out.
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>>59843550

The only way this is possible is if AMD lied about IPC

Fuck this shit man, i really wanted Ryzen to at least match intel at the same core count and clock speed. This is just embarassing
>>
>>59845382
>>59845398
>>59845429
>>59845499
>>59845417

If this is true, it's no wonder Intel shills are on suicide watch.

>>59845601
>CPU every year, keep that in mind
or if you like intel, your CPU and motherboard
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>>59845292
oi vey we got an antisemite ovah heah
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>>59844042

>le eye five is all you need for gaymen meme

Poorfag detected, have fun with your stuttering
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W-wait for Skylake-X
W-w-wait for 7740k it boosts 100MHz higher..
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>>59845325
Okay.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/8v26cd117rcscs2/amadaDump.zip
>>
I can't believe a company 10 times smaller than Intel and with 1/20th of its R&D budget can do this to Intel.

Well.. I guess K7 and K8 existed for a reason
>>
>>59845526
>NVIDIA's supposed to have good fucking drivers.
Their DX12 support sucks on both the driver and hardware level.
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>>59845625
IPC isn't fucking static you retard, it depends on the application.

Not everything can fit into the fucking L1 cache, in fact most shit can't
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What the fuck is up with this?

why are inlets min frames so low?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eH6R-QdRFOI
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>>59843550
>>59845625
You're full of shit. And probably samefagging.
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>>59845672
Even a company like Intel can be bested if they spend 5 years sitting on their laurels letting everyone catch up to them and eat their lunch in every other market.
>>
>>59845526
>no one told him nvidia is no drivers now
Enjoy your GeForce Experience™
>>
>>59845704
>why does a 4 corelet have shit minframes

Consoles.
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>>59845738
Nah, Intel were trying their hardest to get into mobile market only to be brutally assraped by ARM.
>>
>>59845704
And to think this is one of the more optimized PC games in a while.
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just ordered
>Ryzen 5 1600
>Gigabyte AB350 gaming 3
>Corsair 2x8GB 3200Mhz
feels great
>>
>>59845782
It's not well optimised, but it's a good port.
>>
>>59845703
>>59845724

>synthetic benches
>cinebench

Clearly something is going wrong when a 4c/8t cpu is being matched
/beaten by a 4c/4t cpu with less cache at the same clock speeds. The only explanation is that IPC in real world applications signficantly lags behind intel. If you have any other explanation, i would be glad to hear about it.

Not everyone who disagrees with you is a shill.
>>
>>59845738
They weren't sitting on their ass, they were supporting feminism and diversity.

Very important.
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>>59845787
>Gigabyte Ab350
>7 chokes

You got a better choice for cheapo B350 overclocking boards
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>BMO Capital Markets is the second firm in several days to downgrade Nvidia, citing bloated channel inventory.
>If confirmed by the company on its next conference call, then future growth forecasts will not be what the market expects.
>As such, I expect the average analyst price target for Nvidia shares to come down a lot over the several quarters.
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is he /ourguy/?
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>>59845833
>trusting an AMDtard to know how to count chokes
That's a 4-choke with 3 redundancies (weird, I know). ASSCock does this bullshit because the chokes they use are more likely to fail or weaken over time.
>>
>>59845847
Well, it's Nvidia, their stock crashed 20% two months ago because they were overvalued.
>>
>>59845787
Same, except I went with the Asrock Pro4 because muh chokes
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>>59845833
>3 real phases
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>>59845860
There's 9 chokes there, your 4+3 makes no sense.
And how the fuck do you know how they're routed?
Have a diagram? Show me
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>>59845892
>Have a diagram? Show me
Look up ASSCock's own site. They list it as such.
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>>59845855
Absolutely.
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>>59845903
Show me, you claimed there's 4+3 there but there's clearly not, now you won't provide proof?

It's simple, I'll believe you if you show me.
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>>59845860
You took a 5 minute break to get chilled water, didn't you?

I thought I had you scared away, Don't be mean like that again, anon-kun.
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Intel getting btfod
>>59845653
Wait for Cannon Lake,
>>59845562
Wait For Volta
>Intel, Just Wait™
kaby lake housefires
fuck this is weird.
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>>59845562
>comparing 4K to 1080p
>comparing CPU-bottlenecked games
Fuck right off. No one in their right minds believes that an RX 480 is anywhere near as good as the GTX 1080.
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>>59845995
It's not. NVIDIA drivers are trash though.
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>>59845947
>>59845884
>>59845892
>>59845860
>>59845833
>>59845787
asrock has 3+3 real phases (those 6 chokes on the left only have 3 phases behind them)
gigabyte has 4+3 real phases
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>>59845957
shitposting across 7 Ryzen threads suddenly stoped for a solid 5 minutes with the sheer power of Amada.
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>>59845995
Nobody said it is, but Nvidia DX12 drivers can churn out some really retarded results.
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>>59842362
i5 cpu user here. What does "97th percentile" mean?
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>>59846071
http://www.pcgamer.com/why-minimum-fps-can-be-misleading/
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>>59845795

There is no explanation. Ryzen fanboys are in full overdrive, dont expect them to deal with logic, they'll just call you a shill whenever you try to make an argument
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>>59846128
that was one long ass time to reset your IP.
the tone change didn't help much either.
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>>59845795
Well here's some real world tests with Blender.
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>>59846241

>everyone who doesnt think ryzen is perfect is a shill and also the same person

Kys
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>>59846265
Nothing is perfect. Zen is a good uarch though.
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>>59845795
>>59846128
Clock differences. At this point, the only explanation for you stupidity is that you're mentally challenged /v/ tards.
>>
well seems like i'm going with 7600k for my next build thanks amd.
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>>59846265
>>59846330
>>59846128
Thread reached the bump limit. You can stop samefagging now.
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>>59846246

Ok but what i dont understand is how can Ryzen fail so badly in gaymen when it has double the threads and more cache at the same clocks? Theoretically if we clocked both a 7700k and a 1500x to say 3.4ghz (arbitrary number) they should be getting the same avg and 99th percentile performance, yet we see 4c/4t i5s at the same clocks beating 4c/8t ryzen cpu's. What else but lower IPC can cause this?
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>>59846353
nice try pajeet :))
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>>59846355
The 4 core ryzens are literally garbage bins anon, some don't even have full enabled cache.
If you want full IPC measurement, wait for the single CCX results and not some mangled chip with half the hardware disabled.
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>>59846365
Where is your YHWH now?
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>>59846355
Ryzen DOES have lower ipc, but has more threads and cores to compensate. It has somewhere between broadwell E and haswell ipc, but makes a more stable experience due to more cpu overhead. I personally think game engines aren't utilizing the unique structure of the 2 ccx's properly, along with some other quirks that need to be ironed out.
>>
>buying 7700k or 7600k
>buying dead-end platform
>>
>>59846355
>how can Ryzen fail so badly in gaymen
First off, it's not failing badly. 10-15 FPS at 100+ FPS is hardly even noticeable. Second off, most of the worst games for Ryzen are due to unpatched, unoptimized code that need to be tweaked for Ryzen. There have already been several of such patches released, and more will be released in the future, I'm sure.
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>>59846438
IPC results aren't static, THEY VARY, FROM WORKLOAD TO WORKLOAD.

Look at this chart.
Why is a 6 core so much faster than a 4 core here? Same arch, similar clocks, it's way faster than what the extra 50% cores would theoretically give.

The 4 core Ryzens are nonsense chips, they're 2 core per CCX and thus have to double the CCX communication because the CCX fills up much faster.
>>
>>59846509
>CCX fills up much faster.
Fills up with WHAT?
>>
>>59846509
I didn't outright state IPC was static. But yes, that result is pretty odd. Ryzen is so dependent on fast memory speeds to overcome a ccx bottleneck. Might be that with 3 cores in each ccx the workload is isolated into each one properly, while in 2+2 it runs into data having to transfer across the fabric.

The 4-core APUs, if they ship with only one CCX and better clockspeeds, will be breddy gud, given they still ship with a decent amount of cache.
>>
>>59846556
Threads, obviously.

Windows on Ryzen 7
>here's 2 threads for CCX0
Ryzen 7:
>ok
Windows:
>here's another 2
Ryzen 7:
Okay.


Windows on Ryzen 4 core
>Here's 2 threads for CCX0
Ryzen 5:
>okay
Windows:
>Here's another 2
Ryzen 5:
WHELP, 80ns move to CCX1 in progress
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>>59846593
The latency penalty is absolutely fucking nothing unless cache misshit occurs.
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>>59843530
WHY is this guy so fucking butthurt. HE consistently makes bad decisions, hurts his reputation, and makes public moral outcries about controversial topics. "bluhhh I'm not going to review ryzen 7 because some rabid fanboys on twitter are saying kys". What a little wimp.

This is the same guy who said the RBG controller fried his entire build, and NZXT iirc had to apologize even though it was because he fucked up the order of his custom cables.

Fucking idiot
>>
>>59846617
It is if it happens all the fucking time, and it's random, which was pretty much the reason for the day one benchamrks being wildly inconsistent, the threads sometimes were kept on CCX and the other were jumping all over the palce on the same application, and considering we're dealing with Windows wonky scheduler it happens more than it should.
80ns isn't a small amount of clock cycles, it's basically a fetch from DRAM and in inter CPU-core speeds that's an eternity
>>
I wish I could have this sent to the top of the whole thread:

>tl;dr i5 is useless now unless intel change up their scheme big time and make everything hyper-threaded (about fucking time too, jewish cucks)
>1600/1700 are now best mid/high mainstream cpu's in general

If ryzen came out when I was building my pc, I'd have gone right on over to them. Too bad I'm sticking it out with this build for the next few years to come though.
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>>59846646
It's only fucking random when the game/app shuffles threads like insane fucking rabid retard.
>>
>>59846659
Games doing their own scheduling is very rare nowadays, Windows does that now most of the time.
I must admit the situation improved in the last month, on launch it was a nightmare, people were using Process Lasso to bind threads to a CCX and got like 20% improvements, what else can the issue be besides Windows?
>>
>>59846633
He's competing with Gamersnexus for most clueless "Tech reviewer".
>>
>>59846700
>what else can the issue be besides Windows?
NVIDIA drivers. They are working really-REALLY weird with Ryzen.
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>>59846712
That too, but this was seen in DX11 titles too.
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>>59846728
That happens in DX11 too. Like, what is THAT?
>>
>>59846701
even fucking steve at gamersnexus has more knowledge. At least he recognizes that the r5 has great potential, especially the 1600X.

The fucking r7 debacle with him was just stubborn meeting stubborn. Salazar is fucking retarded, the only reason I even knew about him was when he put up a clickbait video about the r9 fury nitro beating a 1070 in some games (spoiler it's very few, and is competitive in most though.) I bought one for like 250 dollars, so breddy good buy for the time. But holy shit is he dumb
>>
>>59846748
That's DX9, Nvidia probably forgot about it
>>
>>59846748
is this fucking real?

NO fucking way
>>
>>59846748
This is some nigger-tier spaghetti
>>
Dear Gods Pinnacle Ridge in Q1 2018 is gonna be brutal, higher clocks, more IPC, stable mobo platform.
>>
>>59846782
Can NVIDIA do anything besides shitting GP102 variants now?
>>
>>59846492
>what is 144hz monitors
>>
>>59846890
A fucking meme.
>>
>>59846748
WTF
>>
>>59846854
b-but muh 7740K
>>
>>59846890
Something nice if I played FPS.
I don't.
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>>59846890
Can you tell the difference between 100 FPS and 110 FPS in a side-by-side comparison? I'm willing to bet the answer is no.
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>>59846890
>what ARE 144hz monitors

FTFY
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>>59846890
niche gaymer hardware
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>>59846890
Something people with $150 CPUs don't buy.
>>
>>59842850
What does 99th percentile mean? I'm no familiar with gaming benchmarks' sleng
>>
>>59847519
How much your CPU stutters, higher is better, and higher core count chips in most cases show a notable increase in minimum frames
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>>59847619
b-but smoothness is a meme
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