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ryzen 1400 vs i5 7500

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>ryzen 5 actually a bigger flop than ryzen 7
What went so fucking wrong?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MHJuTMo1Qo
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>>59829287
AMD
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JUST

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DONATE

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ISRAEL

YOU

STUPID

ASSHOLE

ANTI-SEMITES
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>>59829287
>gay men benchmarks
there's a board just for that, you know
>>>/v/
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>>59829287
J-just wait for Ryzen +, i-it's a brand-new architecture give it time.
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>>59829287
>2400mhz
dropped
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>>59829287
>What went so fucking wrong?
Bad single thread performance yet again. Ryzen 5 is worthless unless you overclock, and you can't overclock the lower end chips
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>>59829287
DELET THIS
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>>59830309
R5 1400s are the entry level products. they are placed in-between that i5 and i3 in pricing
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>>59829287
isn't the R5 1400 the "grandpa needs a new computer" cpu? if so shouldn't they be comparing to the i3? i7-7700K user here so idk.
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>>59830309
The whole Ryzen lineup is overclockable you dumbshit. And besides, the R5 1400 is closer in price against shit like the i3 7350k and the i5 7400. And the performance is great, given the prices and core counts.
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>>59830473
>7700k user

I doubt anybody who shows sympathy for AMD could afford an i7

Fuck off pajeet
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>>59830473

why would any fuckhead consider anything below the 1600?

i bought the 1700 and overclocked it to 4.1

it beat the living daylight out of my 4670k @ 4.6ghz.
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>>59829287
SIR PLEASE
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>>59830364
>>59830473
Reviewers always pick the worst comparison products. Like if I'm considering buying a GTX1060, I don't give a fuck how it compares to a GTX1080. I want comparisons against a 960 and a 970.

I'm surprised they aren't taking the 1400 and comparing it to a i7-7700 and saying "lol the i7 is faster".
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>>59830512
Idiots who think 4 cores should remain the standard. 6 cores and up are much more relevant now.
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>>59830510
>shows sympathy for AMD
just calling out a bad apples to apples comparison. besides, what faggot is going to try to play games on the lowest ryzen processor? nvm probably everyone in brasil.
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>>59829287
probatly slow ass memory
at 3000mhz+ they should be way closer
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>yfw apple puts ryzen in their new imac
>and sell it as $1000 part.
>call it special
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>>59830512
anything below 1600 is retarded until the $70 athlon ryzen with single ccx gpu disabled.
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>>59830512
>4.1ghz
Enjoy running at over 1.4 volts and keeping your processor for a week, anon.

>it beat the living daylight out of my 4670k @ 4.6ghz.
ITT we pretend we don't use our PC for gaming. Grapes are disgusting. Fuck grapes.
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I've been watching these reruns for yeeeeaaaaaaars
Don't know why you AMD fanboys can't accept reality
I like competition but they've been a disappointment for years
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>CPU you can't overclock vs CPU that you can overclock

>lets leave both at stock frequencies, that will be representative of final experience

hmmmm
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>>59830648
>Enjoy running at over 1.4 volts and keeping your processor for a week, anon.
Is this an intel shill trying to scare people away from overclocking or something?
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>>59830691
Yeah this is a repeat of Bulldozer, although Ryzen is much better since Ryzen 7 CPUs aren't infernos.

We're pretty much at the limit of what we can do with silicon anyway. Skylake, Kaby and everything after that will see very little to no improvement.
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>>59829287
I've been waiting to find out if the 1400 is outmatched by the 1500x and 1600 by a large margin. The 1400 has lower clock speed and also 8MB L3 cache compared to the R5 SKUs with 16MB L3 cache and higher clock speed.
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>>59830775
This isn't a repeat since Ryzen has both strong and numerous cores this time. Not just one or the other. The difference in gaming performance is minor in most scenarios. And the 8 core Ryzens are destroying the i7s in performance per watt.

Whereas Bulldozer was almost completely insignificant for the most part. Competitive does not equal Bulldozer.
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>>59830759
Is this the fantasist pajeet with his '''''''''1700 at 4.1ghz'''''''''? Nah mate. Nah. CPU-Z or gtfo. Let's see dem volts.
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>>59830876
>The difference in gaming performance is minor in most scenarios.
kek <-- You are here
kek
kek
kek
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>>59830876
Yeah, pretty much this. Bulldozer was a complete failure whereas Ryzen had been on a good run despite a rocky launch and few issues regarding memory speed and bad optimization. But the good thing is that these issues can resolved once AMD has a complete understanding of the Ryzen architecture.
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>>59830920
kys fgt
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>>59830879
>Is this the fantasist pajeet with his '''''''''1700 at 4.1ghz'''''''''?
Nope.
>Enjoy running at over 1.4 volts and keeping your processor for a week
Is stupid statement. Unless you got really unlucky you can run a cpu over 1.4 for years.
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>>59830705
Fucking this, in addition there's no image of the testbench or any footage or any proof this fag even has the R5 1400 at all.
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>>59830981
It's probably an underclocked R7 with cores turned off
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>>59830981
>It... It's n-n-not real! DELET.
Which stage of grief is this, pajeets?
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>>59831009
what do you get for shilling intel? surely they can't be bothered to pay you
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>>59831009
>not proofs outside a meme image and fancy colored bars
>this is concrete proof in the eyes of Intel shills
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>>59830648
>Enjoy running at over 1.4 volts and keeping your processor for a week, anon.
I've had an FX 9590 running at 1.47 V for four years now. You're grasping at straws.
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>>59831031
C'mon man. Muh brand loyalty.

It's just an extension of the console war cancer /v/ has brought here.
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>tfw /pcbg/ convinced you to wait for Ryzen 5s
I can't believe I fell for this shit again. I should have learned by now.
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>>59831058
how can you possibly be loyal to fucking intel of all companies
my 3570k still performs on par with 7500, that's 5 YEARS of straight up stagnation
what kind of retard would shill for this piece of shit company
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>>59831069
/pcbg/ is half AMD shills and half trolls. The OP of their thread usually says "only an idiot would buy an i5" or something similar.
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>>59829287
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcdmeGOsnss

WTF I hate dualcores now
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>>59831069

You're a stupid faggot.

This is the 150 dollar ryzen bring compared to the 250 dollar i5.
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Intel supports Feminist Frequency. That's the main reason I buy AMD.
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>>59831009
Kill yourself.
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>>59831120
Anyone buying a dual core in 2017 is dirt poor or retarded.
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>Torgue Tech
>53 subscribers
>graphics made on paint
Good benchmark, goy
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>>59831069
What do you intend on using the computer for? If gayming then just go for Intel (i7 or G4560 for budget). Otherwise if you're doing 3D editing, Photoshop, etc then get the R5.
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>>59831135
Thats not very progressive of you, anon. Diversity is our strength!
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>>59829287
STOP BELIEVING AMD LET THEM DIE
DIE
DIE
DIE
DIE
DIE
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>>59829287
you know 1400 can overclock right?
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>>59831091
>AMD still failing to compete with Intel even after 5 years of stagnation.
Suicide watch.

>>59831131
>i5 7500
>$250
u wot m8. It's a <$190 part you can use on a cheaper motherboard and without having to overspend on RAM just to compensate for retarded architecture. Inb4 moar coars like heavily multithreaded titles are ever going to show up in time to be worth playing on such a poverty tier setup anyway.

>>59831142
Grieving pajeets reach the 'anger' stage.
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Stop trying to promote your shitty benchmarks, shill.
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>>59831196

Intel fagboy meltdown number 1256.
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>>59831225

Scraping the bottom of the fucking barrel on Intel parts is something to be proud of?

It's still getting its ass beat in dollar per frame by a 160 dollar CPU and a 70 dollar mother board that can overclock to be even faster.
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>>59831319
>dollar per frame
Same old pajeet song, new tune. When the only argument for choosing AMD is poverty you've already lost.
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>>59831353
What is it about intel the breeds elitism?
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>>59831353

Then why are we comparing poverty level parts, Uzi?
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>>59831391
Because the thread is about poverty level parts? Nobody with an actual job and actual disposable income is going to be buying either of these things.

Functional, contributing members of society buy a 7700K and get on with their life.
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>tfw I'm going to buy a 1600 just to make you faggots mad
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>>59831448
That'll show us.
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>>59831480
Sorry. You'll have to find another buyer to fund your diversity programs.
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>>59831421

Glad to know you're just trying to inflate your tiny dick by comparing poverty level parts that you have no interest in.
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>>59831421
>Functional, contributing members of society
>CPU that's only saving grace is MUH GAYMEN and requires delidding/OCing to get it's money's worth
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>>59831225
Kill yourself.
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>>59831421
low-quality bait
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>>59831225
Don't bother, they remind me of nintendo kids, more interested in shilling inferior products because they feel connected to a business
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>>59831421
BAIT
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lol AMD drones coming up with infinite excuses for a shitty average at every thing excels at nothing chip.

I almost fell for it too but then I remembered bulldozer and other releases and how AMD hype always ended in disappointment
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>>59832365
Ironic seeing as the Intel series are practically one-trick-ponies for having 25-30% higher single core performance. That's literally all they have left. They lose on price, lose badly on multicore, TDP, ease of OCing, not having to switch sockets every CPU, etc.
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>>59831055
my 9590 ran for 3 years @ just under 1.6
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>>59833360
>b-but muh optane
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>>59830879
Yeah, 4.1 stable, I would love to she that...
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>>59830975
>Unless you got really unlucky you can run a cpu over 1.4 for years.

the only CPUs that can do that are old sandy bridge and bulldozer chips, you will damage your hardware if you do that with newer chips, especially those produced on samsung/glofo 14lpp.

even AMD says you shouldn't run higher than 1.35v with zen chips unless you're suicide overclocking.
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>>59830558
Any application which uses more than 4 cores should send it's workload to the GPU anyway
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>>59830775
>We're pretty much at the limit of what we can do with silicon anyway.
Not even close. The Apple A10 has Intel i5-7300U performance but it only uses 2W compared to 31W of the 7300U.
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>>59834026
Are you on literal drugs?
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>>59830775
>repeat of bulldozer
God, the shills doesn't try anymore.
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Is peerblock still effective?
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>>59834279
>parallel processing tasks shouldn't be dumped to the GPU
okay
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>>59831135
Me too anon, and I thought I was the only one.

Fuck that shekel grabbing she-kike
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>>59831069
>tfw fell for the fx and ryzen memes
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

the 1700 is a piece of shit
>needs special mobo to OC
>needs special liquid cooling to reach only 4ghz because it gets too hot because>8 cores
>needs faster more expensive ram to perform
>power consumption skyrockets once you reach 1.4v, it turns into a housefire
REEEEEE
>and since you need all of this it's not actually cheaper than the i7 7700k

fuck you /g/ and your fucking amd shills. never again.

gonna get a i7 7700k now.
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>>59829287
please god delete this
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>hey guise in this review we will be showing you an i7 clocked at 5.2ghz against a 4.0 1800x because that's the real world scenario for enthusiasts
>hey guise, in this Ryzen 5 review we will only show stock clocks because no one in their right mind overclocks their precious processors.
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>>59829287
Shilltel has downgraded to sharing 1400 stats cos it's the only CPU they can beat these days xDD
Here's some pre-update 1700 numbers for you, can add about 20% to those frames assuming current patches and ideal RAM speed at 3200mhz on supported sticks like Flare X
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>>59835000
Except even with fast ram, bios updates, win 10 updates, and game patches; ryzen still underperforms.
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i will probably go for an r5 1500x
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>>59835049
>>shillnexus bench
>still +8 .1% frames vs. shilltel 6900K that costs 3x as much as a 1700 that acheives the same frames at OC
seems good to me
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>>59834756
>mfw reading this manchild
>mfw 1600X will beat quad core meme for $100 less
>mfw you keep raging on /g/ because you know you got ripped off but the only method manchildren understand for cognitive dissonance is complaining more
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>>59831131
poor fag detected, not everyone on this fucking board is poor in a 3rd world country like you pajeet, go ahead and keep supporting a company that sells memes.
people sometime want the best stuff out there that is not 2nd place because they can afforrrrddd it for the lasstt time.
>inb4 intel shill
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>>59835297
inb4 intel fag tries to respond to the true fact that he can't understand price/performance or how that equates to fair benches
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The truth will set you free from the shackles of quad core meme
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>>59835297
>>59835317
You know a person is a dumbass if they actually
use the:
>poorfag
argument.
Fuck off this board you: 'shill'/shitposter/bait-manufacturer low-contribution creep
Here's
your
fucking
(you)
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>>59831135
I buy AMD because jews will not get one cent of my money.
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>>59830576
It's 2400mhz memory

>>59834756
Any B350 and X370 OCs the actual processor fine, it's just high frequency memory support is spotty on some.
It's actually not thermally limited, it's more the process shits out. Even when you cut it down to single cores it ain't gonna go much higher than 4.2ghz
$10 between 2133mhz and 3200mhz sure will break the bank senpai
And yet it still uses less power than a 7700K when you OC it
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>>59835297
>people sometime want the best stuff
>in a thread about i5 and R5
You get no rupees today, Rajesh. You know what? You're fired.
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>>59834756
>>59835372
Now take that 57 watt delta from 4.4ghz (all core boost) to 4.8ghz and apply it to the power figures in this. Now extrapolate that to 5ghz if you like.
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>>59835372
>>59835372
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>>59829287
Hahahaha Bulldozer all over again
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>>59829287
>R5 1400 vs. i5 7500
>when the i5 7500 is priced right in between the R5 1500x and R5 1600
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>>59835385
finally some decent temperature benches
shills gonna get shilled
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>>59833658
Did it die or did you just upgrade it?
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>>59834756
7700k requires a special motherboard to OC, not to mention taking the chance to destroy it by delidding it, draws stupid amounts of power, more then the 1700 @ 4ghz, OH NO, RAM? I NEED FASTER RAM? *scrambles for pocket change, watches spaghetti fall from your pocket*
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>>59831135
>Intel supports Feminist Frequency

Only literal cucks support Intel.
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>>59829287
>2400
THEY CAN'T HIDE FROM THE GOYIM
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>>59832365
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>Watch Dogs 2

Worst performing game on ryzen due to how it was optimized for existing cpus.
Pretty sure it runs better even on 8350.
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>>59836789
RYZEN A SHIT AMDED
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>>59835183
>>59835231
>>59835251
>>59835262
>>59835272
>>59835290
>>59835303
>>59835315
Where did all the intel replies go?
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>>59830691
Intel hasn't topped the i7 920 and it's 9 years old so don't talk to me about disappointment
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>>59829287
>>59829408
>>59829421
>>59830309
>>59829287
It beat the 7500 at Tomb Raider, For Honor, Hitman and a couple of other games at stock clock speeds. Plus it destroys it outside of games.

So fuck of shill.
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>>59830558
I thought this was said many times since the pre-bull'd era ?

Most software barely uses past 2 threads. The extra core and its extra thread don't do shit.

The only software common desktop users uses supports gpu crunching nowadays. 4 is still very viable for the next 3 years.
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>>59835251
>>59835262
>>59835272
>>59835290
>>59835303
>>59835315
JESUS CHRIST

INTEL ON FUCKING SUICIDE WATCH
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>>59837453
>>59837539
Not games, irrelevant.
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>>59837553
you have to go back
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>>59837553
Intel is shit in gayming tho, too much stuttering
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>>59837553
See >>59837463

It beat it in a lot of games, just not the hand picked one OP posted.
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>>59829287
Nothing? 26% performance difference for half the price
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Average framerate of what watching the wall?
I already got i5 6500 and gtx 1070 and the game on ultra is 40-50 fps when driving and doing action stuff
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