GNOME is clutt-

>>59826516
-ered.

>>59826516
install TWM

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>>59826569
shelltile

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looks way better than anything a KDE/xfce/windows/macOS user has ever posted.

>>59826516
Open a few windows and take a screenshot again.

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>>59826722

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>>59826717
When will you gahnoo/leenucks fags ever learn? You're OS remains at 1% desktop marketshare because it's shit. GNOME doubly so.

>>59826717
Gnome shell has a built in screenrecorder, you dolt.

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>>59826746
Enjoy your adware OS cuck

:^)

If your DE weren't dogshit. There wouldn't be the need for all these GNOME shills creating threads every 5 minutes

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>>59826769
I'm aware.

>>59826740
Although you are a faggot, you are not OP.

>>59826779
This isn't real is it?

>>59826516
>bar on top
Where do your tabs go?

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>>59826779
>implying Winshit 10

>>59826790
GNOME is the most popular Linux DE, and /g/ is a Linux board.

The real shills are the "KDE users" (who are actually hired by microsoft to attempt to fragment the FOSS community).

Daily reminder gnome is literally javascript and css, basically a slug.

>>59826717

looks like a tablet Enironment, which it de facto is

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>>59826800
I have win 10 creators update and no ads here.

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>>59826800
oh, it is.

>>59826825
OS X is fine as long as you aren't programming. OS X has no proper package management, and everything important for programming is packaged by third parties instead of the OS maintainers, which makes things integrate poorly compared to linux.

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>>59826826
Windows is the most popular OS, and /g/ is an autism board.

The real shills are the "Linux users" (who are actually hired by Torvalds to attempt to fragment the proprietary software community).

>>59826797
Then why the phone recording?

>>59826826
>GNOME is the most popular Linux DE

stop shilling. Gnome fell from over 40% during Gnome2 times to below 20% after Gnome3 switch. It's mainly a developer DE these days, not so much an user DE anymore.

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>>59826834
Just wanted to try something different.

>>59826826
Unity is the most Popular DE you lying faggot.

I Know is going to die, but it is currently the most popular, you're not fooling anyone shill

>>59826856
Your post doesn't make logical sense, whereas mine does:

>it is naive to believe that shills aren't posting on this board

>there is financial incentive and very little repercussion for using shills

>there are marketing firms that post pro-Microsoft propaganda all the time even though they constantly fuck users in the ass with adware and spyware and unwanted updates


You're naive if you think shilling isn't real.

I really like your vim setup what settings/ plugins do you have?

>>59826883
>>59826866
Both GNOME and Unity make up about 75% of desktop linux, both are modern and much different from KDE.

Unity is dead now, there is no incentive for shilling, but then where do the KDE people come from?

GNOME users are organic, KDE/xfce/etc are shills.

>>59826909
post the webm on reddit.com/r/vim and ask them

mostly mucomplete, NERDtreetabs, tagbar, airline

>>59826866
>>59826883
>niggers pulling shit out of their ass
There's no real way to measure de usage and you idiots know this.

>>59826851
I'd use homebrew if I wanted to manage packages. And most language's environments are EZPZ to set up on macOS. Go is the exception, but that's a pain in the ass to set up on every OS.

>>59826894
>I am so autistic that I must reply to obvious b8.
8/8 m8.


kys.

>>59826932
Stock Ubuntu is the most installed Linux by far you fucking imbecile.

Again, if GNOME is so great why do you have to lie so much?

>>59826929

Notice how this shills mixes Ubuntu and GNOME numbers to make it seems like they are similar when in reality GNOME is like 5% and Unity is the 95%

Really fucking pathetic.

>>59826717
- massive pointless icon list on the left
- pointless window list on right
- ridiculous 128x128 icons
- redundant top left menu

the only things worse than this are unity and windows 10, and only because windows 10 is 5 different UI's and 20 years of spaghetti code clusterfucked together.

>>59826929
GNOME is under 20% and such is bug ridden, clunky failure called KDE. Unity is the leader and even xfce is used more than either Gnome or KDE.

>>59826850
It's a historical picture. OneDrive ads USED to show up in Explorer.

>>59826800
yes it is

http://www.theverge.com/2017/3/9/14872464/windows-10-onedrive-ads-inside-file-explorer

>>59826762
I want to become a go programmer

>>59826516
Come on, open a window for us and show us the beautiful 200px title bars because you know, gotta make it big for all the people using it on tablets and smartphones (no one does)

>>59826762
>watching zombie simpsons

you might be the biggest fag in the thread

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>>59826856
>Defends windows, a proprietary software run by a megacorporation
>Thinks little Linus Torvalds has the resources and pure hatred within him to hire a massive shill force on a technology board that no normies (and thus potential Linux users) read in the first place
>Says this specifically to push the idea that Innocent Lil Microsoft is being attacked by a community infinitely less powerful than them

Who's the the shill now, would you say?

>>59826800
It is all a lie, goy
Do not trust em

>>59827016
I don't have a problem with 128x128 icons.
If you think about it, there really is no reason to have everything be teeny tiny if you have the room to put bigger things on screen.

No one needs 70 icons on their screen at once with 12 point text that they need to strain to see. Use your screen real estate you paid for to strain your eyes less and clutter your mind less.

I have zero problems navigating apps on an iPhone, even though only 24 icons will fit on the screen at once, I can just make additional screens. You know, virtual desktops in a sense. 128x128 icons + virtual desktops is the way to go.

>>59826859
to get (you)'s

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It really makes you think how after the news of Mark killing Unity, we suddenly have all these threads shilling the GNOME desktop. It's like they want to condition us to the idea of their shitty desktop. But the reality is most people will rather Install Windows 10 or buy a Mac than having to use GNOME on their computers.

Also notice how the ones that have been celebrating the linux failure of Unity dying are precisely these GNOME fanboys that are happy that the competition is now dead.

Notice how hypocrite they are. When it suits them Linux is about choice and bla bla bla, But, when Canonical created Unity a desktop that created competition to GNOME and Red Hat, all these shills were screaming how mean Canonical has the NIH syndrome and spreading FUD about them.

When Ubuntu integrated Amazon suggestions in their DE, that commie Stallman was the one to spread FUD and call them spyware. But when GNOME exposes your private files in Google Drive without any encryption no one says anything.

>>59826998
Stock Linux Mint is the most installed Linux by far you fucking imbecile.
Again, if Unity is so great why do you have to lie so much?

I'm not shilling gnome or anything, I am pointing out you or anyone else using any "statistics" on de usage is completely made up. Anyone can change their de to anything else on any linux distro and there is no accurate measure of distro usage to begin with, especially considering all the derivatives.

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>>59827069
It's really easy!

read all this and you're done

>>59826958
>using a 3rd-party package manager that has to use symlinks to solve conflicts with Xcode is somehow comparable to a proper package manager
There are a lot of things macOS does well, package management is not one of them.

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>>59827177

>>59827183
It is not, stop lying this is getting pathetic.

Clem (Linux mint creator) has even talked about it when mentioning wikimedia stats in his blog.

Go fuck yourself you stupid shill, keep lying all you want, no one is going to use your shitty desktop.

>>59827177
>the reality is most people will rather Install Windows 10 or buy a Mac than having to use GNOME on their computers.

Or, y'know, install another DE like KDE, Xfce, LXDE, Razor-qt...

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>KDE uses space more efficiently

>>59827249
>picture has a different level of zoom than mine

If anyone had a doubt that are gnome shills/devs lying in this thread. I think it is pretty obvious now.

Again, why do they have to lie if their DE is so good?

>>59827177
>When it suits them Linux is about choice and bla bla bla

it still is. you can install any DE you want.

>>59827329
If you can zoom in and out then what is even the point of your image?

we're putting you on suicide watch.

>>59827311
>Gaps
>Uses space more efficiently
Not using a tiling wm in the year of our Lord, 2017

>>59827104
see
>>59826976

>>59827177
You don't honestly believe gnome sends PR to shill here? It's just gnome fags pissing on ubuntu users cause they can and it's funny for then. Hell, some these guys probably don't even use gnome, they just get off on baiting idiots like you.

>>59826746

2%

>>59827404
I'd reply with LMAO cat again but I'm too lazy to open photoshop.

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>>59827177
Just accept that Canonical will never approach the stature of Red Hat in the Linux community. You just dont have top enough talent. Dont be a sore loser, Mark.

>>59827289
Oh no, you're an illiterate third-worlder aren't you?
Alright I'll spell it out for you:
There is no way you can say unity has more users than gnome OR gnome has more users than unity because there is no accurate way to measure either userbase.
The linux mint thing was tongue-in-cheek mockery of the idiocy of your prior post.

>>59827424
Good, because you're not a very good troll.

>>59826516
-ery piece of shit?
Yeah, it is.

>>59827440
Ubuntu is the driving force behind Linux' success. The early versions brought new users en masse.

>>59827249
>removing toolbars from the program itself

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>>59826800
Ofc

>>59827483
All Canonical ever contributed was repackaging Debian, and you've been bested there by Mint for ages anyway. The things you tried to contribute upstream (upstart, mir, unity) were all bested by far higher quality Red Hat stuff (systemd, wayland, gnome). You're pretty much a joke in the free software community at this point.

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>>59827177
There's a GNOME plugin to fix that problem and make the windows more like unity.

>>59827311
KDE is an unforgivably disgusting DE

Budgie QT will finally get KDE autists to shut the fuck up once a decent DE is made with QT

>>59827311
>using ancient screenshots
Did you just switch from shilling Windows to shilling Gnome?

It's muttered xdddd

>>59826717
It looks like shit. I admit though, it still looks better than the ones you have listed and of course better than tiled squares meme. Unity is still a winner in a beauty and convenience contest.

>>59827615
>Mint
Sure Mint is great, I heard Mint users absolutely love this DE... all three of them.

>upstart
How dare they didn't make use of kernel features that came years later. At least they didn't use snake oil shit like "socket activation" to get users to use it. In retrospect, many people would have looked at upstart differently if they knew what was coming from Poettering.

>mir
No one has seen it, no one knows.

>unity
Most popular Linux DE.

>systemd
Shit

>wayland
Intel

>gnome
Pure shit

>>59827584
>implying all windows 10 versions in every region is equal

Even enterprise crap have "play and explore" in start menu and shitty store, but that's all

>>59827732
>No one has seen it, no one knows.
Used by touch.
>Intel
And Samsung. It can be great.

>>59827732
Maybe your lack of impulse control is why Red Hat has the only viable Enterprise Linux while all Canonical has is Ubuntu Phone (kek)

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>>59826516
>applications menu
>pig disgusting app icons

Install Lumina.

Install Deepin

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>>59827016
MS are supposedly updating their UI later this year. I like the look of it, but

>MS

I mean, they only just let the user have a blank start menu so customize it to their liking.

>>59828009
>I mean, they only just let the user have a blank start menu so customize it to their liking.
they did? holy fuck finally

>>59828009
looks like a gnome rip off but with even more wasted space.

>>59826516
INSTALL SOLUS

>>59826762

>has an already tiny screen
>leaves a huge empty space because it "looks good" gimping his own experience
>pretending to work like that to appear smart

What a loser.

>>59828019
Yeah the Creators Update tweaked it very slightly, no more all apps being visible.

>>59828057
The massive space at the top is a little weird. I don't know how actual programs will look other than a slight change to the title bar.

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>>59827177
how about showing the situation on an actual computer screen?

The problems are as follows:
Libreoffice's interface is a complete disaster. It's beyond saving, it needs to be rethought and redone from scratch. Toolbars, sidebars, file menus, settings - it's all literally unusable.
Actually, that goes for all open-source office programs, see Gnumeric and it's toolbars.
Libreoffice doesn't make use of Gnome's AppMenu.
Gnome 3 doesn't offer you to shove application's File menu into AppMenu. Or to put File menu into the window's title bar and make it appear on hover, since it's not going to be populated with useful things anyway (because libreoffice devs don't give a shit about gtkheaderbar, or design and usability in general). Or to make File menu appear on hover right next to the running app name on top bar. No extensions, no hacks, nothing.

>>59826717
I expected nothing less from a GNOME supporter

>>59828143
>software needs to adhere to Gnome's standard and not vice versa
Gnome in a nutshell

>>59828182
GNU is the standard operating system, anon.

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>>59828083
Done :^)

>>59827461
>accurate way to measure either userbase.

First, I never claimed that there was a 100% accurate way of measuring anything, but you have to be either a retard or a shill to ignore that there are indications that tell us which DE's are the most popular and which aren't.


>Anyone can change their de to anything else on any linux distro

Yeah, because statistically we know most people do that right, faggot?

I am pretty sure the average joe intermediately installs the GNOME desktop, after an Ubuntu install like this delusional faggot is implying.

>>59828057
God I want to curb stomp every single Gnome fanboy.

Gnome literally ripped off everyone and every new iOS / Windows whatever release you dumb mongs come out of the woodwork and claim people stealing from Gnome. How fucking dense can people be?

>>59828009
dat titlebar padding tho holy shit

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>>59827883
you're right the applications menu is a meme

Paper Icons are GOAT, kys

>>59828217
>installs GNOME variant
>complains about GNOME

>>59828288
>complains about GNOME
I'm the OP

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>>59828083

>>59826779
>>59828217
>using the smiley with a carat nose

>>59828315
It's called circumflex, you retard.

>>59826871
what extensions are you using?

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>>59828295

>>59827300
Except KDE has it's own problems it is a fucking mess and it would give OCD to a normal person after 20 minutes of usage.

The other DE's you mentioned are old, meant for computer with low resources.

Unity was the only modern desktop environment that offered you sane defaults (unlike GNOME) and didn't required you to waste your time configuring stuff like KDE.

It worked out of the box. But now it is dead. Yeah you can still use it but there are no security patches and Unity 8 development is over.

I gonna install Windows now, my linux adventure over, at least on the desktop.

>>59828498
I've been trying different DEs in a VM, nothing comes even close to Unity, don't get me wrong I'm not ditching Linux desktop just yet but it's sad there is nothing left.

>>59828533
>nothing comes even close to Unity
but GNOME is better

>>59828536
Nice one.

>>59828536
>0.05 cents have been deposited to your Red Hat Employee Banking Account

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>>59828536
AHAHAAHAH
that's it, i'm done with the Linux community cancer.

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>>59828567
>>59828579
>>59828591
looks perfect to me
>>59828282
>>59826516

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>>59828598
>y-yes goys, you must only use GNOME approved software to get a consistent look.

>>59828591
>Linux community cancer.

This whole Unity stuff really opened my eyes about the Linux Community: it turns out it is not this magical place of people collaborating together to build good open software, but rather it is full of politics, power struggles and double standards.

Now that Red Hat has eliminated his most powerful competitor on the desktop, they have practically 100% control of the Linux desktop, Gnome is sponsored by Red Hat, they also own systemd, SELinux and most of the underlying components of your Linux system.

It is not really different from Windows or OS X where one company owns everything. Now do I trust Red Hat? Well I trust them as much as I trust Microsoft. So in the end for me it is a matter of convenience and Windows wins there by far.

The funny part is that Free Software murdered Ubuntu.

>>59828710
>Two panels
Absolutely disgusting

Anything works in gnome with those extensions (dash-to-panel and pixel saver)

It is not hard to make GNOME perfect if you aren't retarded

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>>59828202
Don't start with this shit again.
Linux is an OS.
Linux is an OS.
Linux is an OS.

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>>59828710
literally this

>>59828828
That's every community dude.
Developer stuff might be slightly worse because it's a bunch of under-socialized egomaniacs, but in general every community in life is dominated by normie politics, egos, etc.

>>59828834
>muh extension will fix major design flaws made by pedantic and incompetent devs.
Pathetic.
>>59828828
True, it baffles me how freetards shit over SystemD but love GNOME.
Desktop Linux is going dark really fast.

>>59828834
>It is not hard to make GNOME perfect
>no global menu
>no locally integrated menu
>this >>59828887
It is impossible to make GNOM even usable.

>>59828887
>>59828710
>global menu
>poor man's osx

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>>59828916
>proven wrong
>b-but le evil applel invented it!!1!
Freetards everyone

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>>59828421

>>59829012
Not even an apple invention. And Ubuntu unity did it better.

>>59829059
Unity approach was really reasonable, use existing GUI toolkits and export the menus into the top/title bar, instead of gnome's retarded approach (hamburgers menus yay1!!!!1xD).

>>59829134
Yeah, so fucking retarded:
>okay guys, menus are kind of ugly and we can't add another 32px to our oversized title bars, so what can we do about it?
>as we are copying iOS, we should just add hamburgers
>but menus have so many options, how are we supposed to put that all behind a single hamburger?
>umh... just remove options until it fits into a single context menu

Advanced UIX design at the Gnome HQ

>>59829403
And these dumb fucks can do as they wish since Canonical is out of the desktop game.
If nothing changes for the better I can say goodbye to desktop Linux.

>>59828828
>tfw Mark realized too late about this

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>>59827311
>screenshot from KDE4 which's last update was in 2014
>split directory space
although that's a good thing, you using it in your argument is stupid
>literally every panel enabled

>making an argument while providing a pic where the counterpart STILL looks more functional that what you're arguing for

just give up.

>>59829710
actually that looks like KDE3

>>59829710
>Funtoo
Other side of the wall for you.

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>>59829784
What else would make me do this?

>>59828895
>Extension will fix major design flaws
Well... Yes. Exactly. Explaining to me how it's an extension isn't an argument.

>>59829812
The issue is that your shitty extensions are javascript scripts.

>>59829812
Extensions are supposed to provide customization/extra features, not to provide basic features because the devs are incompetent and have a clear policy of never listening to the users.

>>59827440
>pottyring
>talent
>pulseaudio
>systemd

most of this autists shit is incomplete at best. at worst, it's a total clusterfuck.

>>59829830
>your extensions are written in a language I don't like
this is the worst argument I've ever seen on this board
>>59829839
>Explaining to me how it's an extension isn't an argument
what about this didn't you understand?

>>59828905
>no global menu
Superkey + (Type whatever)
It's the same thing, anon. I use Unity and Gnome. Gnome is slightly better.Unity just didn't have the resources to compete. You may not like Gnome Foundations practices, but to deny Unity and Gnome are very similar, is just retarded.

>>59829964
You have no idea what a global menu is.

>>59829958
in a shitty, bloated, inefficient scripting language that definitely isn't meant to be relied on for your whole graphical environment.

>>59827177
It really stimulates my neurons.

>>59828226
>indications that tell us which DE's are the most popular and which aren't
And those indications tell us that gnome-shell and unity are probably the most used distros and that it's impossible to distinguish which userbase is higher.
Debian and fedora both use gnome as their default, and there are plenty of gnome users on distros like arch and suse.
Ubuntu is the only distro to ship unity and whatever usage counter you are looking at, is it including *ubuntus as well?
Going by that, whichever DE is used more is highly contested.

>I am pretty sure the average joe intermediately installs the GNOME desktop, after an Ubuntu install like this delusional faggot is implying.
I'm not implying anything of the sort, you projecting little shit. I was pointing out issues associated with DE usage analysis. Btw, only with ubuntu can you say most of its users use unity, because of all the "remixes". Other distros don't do that.

>>59826797
No wonder you used your phone to record your screen earlier, given how laggy that piece of shit garbage is.

>>59826800
It is, but you can block them.

>>59827635
show it to us

>>59828828

true

>>59827615
>quality Red Hat stuff (systemd, wayland, gnome)

Thank you for making me laugh

>>59828828
/g/ is pretty shit, and most of its users are underage retards who spout shit to bait others, but this is probably the most ignorant comment in this thread.

>>59831402
he's right though, to a point

I'd say Canonical died due to their own ego. Everything they've done for almost 7 year straight now is copy the work of others a do a worse job at it

>>59826516
She's getting away, OP.

>>59830442
name a better linux development organization

I thought not

>>59826561
fpbp

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>>59834708
I also use custom css

https://pastebin.com/raw/0hrvRvS8

put that in ~/.theme/themeName/gnome-shell/gnome-shell.css

also see pic for how to customize gnome

>>59826800
>People who don't own windows 10 insist its real
>People who do own and use windows 10 say they've never seen it.

You decide.

>>59826516
>GNOME is clutt-

GNOME was never cluttered. The problem with GNOME is that it has very limited customizability, deliberately, by design.

The developers of GNOME couldn't figure out how to develop the customizability options well -- so they simply assumed that it's not possible to provide customizability without confusing the user. It's a conclusion that only untalented developers would reach.

>>59827104
>Normies
>Potential Linux users
Linux is the only thing in the world that would have 4chan as the number one install base to shill

Maybe anime too, but that's it

>1366x768

lmao

>>59829731
was dolphin a thing in kde3?

i think it's 4 themed like 3

>>59835029
>The problem with GNOME is that it has very limited customizability, deliberately, by design.

wrong

>>59835029
>>59835288
forgot webm

see webm >>59834742

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>not using i3

>>59834978
Nobody unironically owns Windows 10. Those that claim to are shills paid by Microsoft that probably run 7.

>>59835288
ORLY? Then answer me this:

How do you change the font that is used in GNOME shell's top bar? There is one correct answer and it's not editing some js files by hand.

>>59828143
WPS, probably spyware though

>>59827190
What do you say is the best starter book?

Go Bootcamp
or
Introducing Go

>>59828828
>It is not really different from Windows or OS X where one company owns everything.
K brb off forking Windows :-)

ITS LITERALLY NOT CLOSE TO THE SAME THING YOU HUGE FAGGOT

OR, just use Ubuntu MATE.

Problem solved.

All we need now is a Wayland compositor...

>>59826516
GNOME is great and all but if you're at all concerned with screen space or productivity then i3wm is the clear choice. It's what separates the linux babbys from the real men

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>>59834742
What the fuck. How have I not heard of the CSS thingies until now?

>>59826587

>the size of them title bars.

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>de

>>59835127
>There are people who complain about GNOME at this resolution
Top fucking kek

>>59835379
Dconf-editor

>>59835554
the one by caleb doxey

>>59828828
You got trolled by paid shills.

Microsoft pays people to come into FOSS communities and cause in-fighting.

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>>59836187
I know, I realized I forgot to rice the terminal before bragging about it

>>59839575
>Trolling people with autism
That's not nice anon

>>59827177
>It really makes you think how after the news of Mark killing Unity, we suddenly have all these threads shilling the Unity desktop.
Before the announcement every Unity thread would have

>Amazon
>Unity

and the standard Xubuntu/Mate shills. It's only after the announcement that defending Unity suddenly became popular because /g/ is contrarian just for the sake of being so. Can confirm: I'm a pre-kill Unity shill.

The facts are that Unity is shit technology-wise and performance-wise. Functionality-wise it's the best DE if only because it's basically macOS done better. Unity will only survive when someone announces a Unity fork that runs on Wayland but everyone is fighting Wayland because memes and the (unpaid) open-source community is resistant to change.

>>59830337
Not that guy, but:

https://github.com/lestcape/Global-AppMenu

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>Window's is clutt-

>>59840873
A blue screen would have been more appropriate

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>>59841673

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I would otherwise like to use GNOME but it is too laggy. Being laggy is unacceptable, my machine isn't the highest end but it isn't very old (i3, intel graphix)

I switched to xfce. It is ok.

>>59841752
What version of GNOME did you have installed? It's not laggy for me, and having to also configure a secondary compositor for xfce just fucking blows

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install 9wm NIBBA

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>>59839576
>the size of them title bars

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kawaii!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

>>59842346
3.22 I think? Whatever Fedora 25 has.

>>59826516
looking at that wallpaper makes me nauseas

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>>59841752
>le anime girl on bottom right

>>59843542
What's the problem?

>>59842963
>Kino makes plebs sick
And the world is right today

>>59826871

Good taste in music.

>>59837755
kill yourself ben

>>59837755
>autism