/gcg/ - graphic card general

Should I replace my gigabyte 970 g1 for a sapphire 480 8gb nitro?

>>59795428
>yfw amd cant blow the 980ti, 1070, 1080, titan x pascal, 1080ti, titan Xp, quadro p6000, gp100 and laptop cards

>>59795462
Nah, thats not a big upgrade. Oc your 970

Buying Titan Xp

Not waiting for Volta, or wait full pascal chip

>>59795462
if you're on something higher than 1080p, yes
otherwise it's not an upgrade

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>>59795533
>>59795579
OK thanks, i was tempted by that 8gb vs my 3,5gb (bought it 1 week before whole 3,5gb thing came out)

>>59795720
Don't worry about that, the human eye can't see more than 3.5GB anyways.

EVGA 1070, SC or FTW? FTW has more pins and power phases but i heard it really doesn't make that much of a difference when overclocking.

>>59796092
FTW2

>>59796092
Nvidia locked the voltage mod/bio of pascal so all the cards are almost the same, get the cheaper

>>59796092
More phases just means a better chance of getting stable results when overclocking so in a perfect world where they're equally good cards then the one with more phases can be pushed further. Overclocking is still a bet though, and if you're really unlucky in the silicon lottery more phases won't do shit for you.

>>59795428
>>ryzen 1700/1800 are not gaymen cpu
>graphic cardgeneral
Shit thread by nvidiot. Not even surprised.

>>59796561
hello raja!!!!11!!!1!

am such big fan!1

when is vega?!??

>>59796590
Hello plebbit! Enjoying 4chan's anonymity? :D

>>59796653
so gooooood!!1 <3333333333

it's not better than doing my gf tho hehe ;-D

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>>59795429
dat a big gpu

>>59795428
I'm just waiting for Navi. No need to hurry.

>>59797811
kinda this, navi/volta are down the road, I don't feel like upgrading my 1080p 60hz monitor quite yet.

>>59796092
Don't get EVGA Pascals, they are all fucked. Haven't you heard? The VRMs are literally exploding form heat.

>>59797634
Who is this semen succubus?

>>59797897
They fixed that a while ago my man. They even sent thermal pads for free for anyone who requested them.

>>59797931
>They fixed that a while ago my man.
No guarantee you'll get a fixed model unless there's a revision number on the box and you'll check it.
>They even sent thermal pads for free for anyone who requested them.
Are you implying they've redeemed themselves and are OK?

>>59795462
literally 5-10% differnce in performance in most games

Besides aesthetics what the fuck is the point of backplates?

Going from a 7850 1gb card, should I buy a gtx 970 from eBay for $170 or wait for the rx 470 4gb to go on sale from $110-$160(with rebate) in the future. I play only modded warband and maybe bannerlord in the future.

>>59798075
Cooling.

>>59798112
But that is bullshit. They're just another heatsink but without actual cooling.

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>>59797811
This.
>mfw cute, small GPUs on a MCM to scale up
>mfw possible 7nm
>mfw even cheaper when yields on small chips will be better

>>59798103
470

>>59798103
the 470 is already faster than the 970 and better in every way

>>59798075
they hold the pcb so it wont sag, with these massive modern heatsinks on them, technically they should improve cooling, but they really dont,

>>59798221
>>59798261
OK

>>59798261
its around same performance, but yet 8gb 470 is like 20-30$ more expensive then 970, nowadays, and like i said performance is literally the same, if you plan to use your card for few years atleast in the future 470 is better buy right now, unless you can get 970 for like 140$, but it might be worth it.

will vega be good?

>>59798334
No.

>>59795428
I waited for Vega because the 1080 was formerly a ripoff, but because of the price drop, I'll be pulling the trigger on one or the other within a few days of Vega's release.

>>59798334
between 1080 and 1080ti

>>59798334
Depends on the price. It's confirmed fuckhuge and has HBM2, so it can't be that cheap.

>>59798334
why do you think amd is taking such long time? its obvious amd didnt expect such huge leap in performance for 1070/80 and now 1080ti. Remember 1070/80 is literally using 300mm die, meaning its actually cheap as fuck for nvidia to produce it, its not slighty bigger than amd polaris. Technically nvidia could drop the price of 1080 to like 400$ and 280$ for for 1070, and Vega would be DOA. And Nvidia would still make huge buck.

>>59798151
7nm will make 2160p60 possible on mid-range hardware. Possibly before 2020.

>>59798334
Not faster than Ti

https://videocardz.com/67275/amd-vega-spotted-with-4096-cores-and-8gb-2048-bit-memory

>>59798373
500mm die + hbm2, and amd fans expect it to cost lower than 500$... there is a reason nvidia didnt use hbm2, they still want to make profits and hbm is overrated, like we saw with fury x vs 980ti.

>>59798324
What about the 4gb rx 470, is there that big of a gap in performace from the 8gb model? I only play on 1280 x 1024, but would go to 1080 when my current monitor dies.

>>59798436
there is, 4gb uses slower memory like 6600mhz, and 8gb model uses 7000mhz or 8000mhz, depends on manufacturer.
Though if you can find 4gb model with faster memory, it will likely perform exactly the same as 8gb at 1080p.

>>59797957
>>>59797931
>>They fixed that a while ago my man.
>No guarantee you'll get a fixed model unless there's a revision number on the box and you'll check it.
>>They even sent thermal pads for free for anyone who requested them.
>Are you implying they've redeemed themselves and are OK?

I updated my vbios + installed the thermal pad myself and couldnt be happier with my EVGA ftw acx 3.0 since I bought it for cheap cuz le housefire meme scare the original buyer.

>>59795756
Kek

>>59795533
Firepro W9100 > I think all but the top tier quadro

When do we get new display adapter cards?
If like to buy a bunch of GT 1010's
Something <25w
Just enough for high res video

>>59798513
>housefirepro

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>>59798513
not even close

>got a 3.5GB meme for 100 dollars
>can't find a single fucking game that will go over 60% GPU usage on average for 75 FPS
what in the fuck

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>>59798513
>>59798557

bad pic

>>59798562
its performance rival 470/80 for 100 its a steal

>>59797907
Another example of how much easier women have it in life
https://www.instagram.com/emilyhelenbarry/

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>>59795428
>>scorpio costs more than $600

>>59795548
Coffee Delake- 2018?
V-V-Volta- 2018?
>intel
>just wait™

>>59798538
rx 550 coming out for $75 or less I imagine
Rx 560 is targeted at $99

>>59798750
Worst

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidthier/2017/04/07/analysts-microsofts-xbox-scorpio-could-cost-more-than-700/#49b5da2a1aeb

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/tech/gaming/600163/Microsoft-Xbox-Project-Scorpio-700-console-4K-Specs-PS4-Pro

http://www.valuewalk.com/2017/04/xbox-project-scorpio-specs/

$700

>>59798291
Has anyone actually ever seen a board sag? I've had some fucking heavy boards without backplates and not a single one of them ever sagged, though to be fair i never had the same board for more than 2 years.

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>mfw I got an XFX GTR XXX 8GB RX 480 for £180

>>59798830
My gf's GTX 770 sags like crazy, I'm amazed it still works.

>>59798852
Her tits sag you say?

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I come before you, /g/, humble and naked.
Having just acquired a screen capable of 4K@60hz, the old warhorse 290X is getting lame. As in, it cannot output those numbers any more.
Are these new Nvidias there yet? I was even considering the Titan Xp but in a sudden moment of clarity decided to ask here first.
Rumours of Vega seem positive and I don't mind waiting if need be.

>>59798889
No single card is 100% 2160p60 capable. Meaning there are games that will make even the Titan Xp neck itself when running on their max settings at 4K.
Sure, the 1080Ti/Titan Xp/other Titan XP can run a good amount of games at minimum 60fps at 2160p, but they are not at a sweet spot, like e.g. the GTX 1080 or 1070 is at 1080p (i.e. literally crushing everything).

VEGA in no way will do more at 2160p than the Titan Xp or 1080Ti can. Ever.

Best wait for Volta (if there is actually a die shrink to 12nm with Volta, then you got some hope) or run some SLI setup with dual GTX 1080s or better (minding always the potential microstuttering and bad scaling scenarios).

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>>59798990
Got it- Thank you for your answer. Volta it is then; and I lose nothing by at least waiting for it. You changed the world tonight.

>>59798990
Hell there are games that bring even the 1080 at 1080p below 60 at max settings

>>59799111
Thank you.
>>59799174
Arma 3 *cough*

I'm pretty sure my crappy AMD died during a lightning storm the other day. I first thought the recurring black screen of death was due to the drivers but after a fresh install of Windows and going through several different driver versions the same issue keeps occurring.

Should I ditch AMD and move over to nVidia? I'm looking at the GTX 1050 as it's around my price range.

>>59798839
Post OCs.

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>>59799641
If you are living in a thunder prone area, consider buying a surge protection.

Regards, someone who fried a semi-new 1300€ laptop plugged in a shitty ungrounded 0.50¢ socket when a frigging 0.80¢ fan in the same socket went BZZZZ hard and blew the fuse

>>59795720
run games at sub 4gb settings, I still have a 280X 3gb, its not be all end all, so you can get by till vega comes, then get a 4gb vega card to replace it as the hbm as chache looks like its real and not just a meme, meaning when a game asks for 16gb, you are playing it, though maybe not at 16gb actual ram speeds, but also not the current .5gb makes the gpu go to sub 10 fps speeds either.

>>59799940
Maybe I'm retarded but the thing still sort of works. It is connected to my motherboard and I have a HDMI cable connected to the AMD card (device manager says generic VGA installed) but whenever I install the drivers needed for the card my computer won't load past the splash screen.

>>59799829
More interested in undervolting for quietness and coolness. Currently got core at 1300 MHz @ 1070 mV, VRAM at 2100 MHz @ 925 mV. Load temps are low 60s with 50% fan speed (barely audible).

>>59799641
>Should I ditch AMD and move over to nVidia?
Ditch memes and buy whatever you can get for the best price:performance ratio

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>Paying over$300 for a graphic card
>not expecting to get cucked
>needing to sell it in time before people catch on
retards selling to retards

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>>59800825
>having to change card every few years because you cheap out

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>>59800825
>>59800960
both of you shitters tell me if I wait for Vega/VolTa/Shitfuck Bestest Edition or buy something now

>>59801034
Just buy a Titan Xp :^)

>>59798738
Jesus, I hope her DNA is being harvested & used to make more top tier babies for the future.

>>59801088
But which Titan Xp :^)

>>59800960
This, my GTX-780Ti has worked swimmingly for its "since release" life.

I'm waiting to see what Vega / Volta looks like and what they try to price it at, before I swap it out.

>>59798738

100k followers for having a standard face but A+ tits. Not a bad life desu.

>>59798839

Link?

>>59798990
can the ultra settings meme die already? for 99% of the time, you can adjust the settings to high and some to even medium with little to no visual difference.

Vega's probably going to release in June/July somewhere, right?

>>59801390
How am i going to brag if i don't go ultra every single time?

>>59801390
can the little to no visual difference meme die already
maxed out means maxed out
excluding antialiasing, though, since at 2160p and on a typical 27'' monitor, the pixel density makes the need for antialiasing absolutely redundant
also
>reshade mods

>>59801401
I think it was pushed back to August.

new fag here
How long is the life span of a typical gfx card? two/three years?

http://instinct.radeon.com/en-us/the-potential-disruptiveness-of-amds-open-source-deep-learning-strategy/
Oh look, they are actually going to compete with CUDA. About fucking time.

>>59801456
Depends on your expectations, if you want the best of the best, state of the art graphics in 4k you'll have to change every year or two. I've been using a gtx 570 and i don't minded playing on medium settings in 1080p. I'd tell you you're better off buying a higher end card if you want to keep it longer.

>>59801456
If you're talking about physical lifespan then way longer than that.

>>59801456

Depends on what tier you start out on and what resolution you want to play at. If you're happy with 1080p a midrange card (like a 480 or 1060) will be fine for at least three, possibly four with tweaks, years. If you want 4k even a 1080 will be outstripped in a year or two.

If you mean actual lifespan (as in when it dies) rather than ability to keep up with graphics then almost all cards are pretty good at surviving for a decade. If it doesn't die in the first few weeks you're set.

>>59801487
>>59801501
>>59801547
Thanks dudes, I'm looking at a GTX 1050 ti as it's seems to have good reviews and has a solid price range.

Does the manufacturer have an impact on the card? Is Zotac for instance more reliable than Gigabyte?

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whats the cheapest CPU i could pair with the 1080 for gaming?

>>59801588
R5 1400, or whatever cheapest KL i5 there is.

>>59801585
>Does the manufacturer have an impact on the card?
In this generation of cards, barely. Go for the ones with better reviews and better customer service.

>>59801588
Get an i7 or ryzen you cheap bastard

>>59801585

The chipsets and card themselves are almost always identical (some will OC cards). The major differences come in the cooling, particularly the temps the cards hit and how loud the fans can get. Some can have bad coil whine too. Have a look at reviews for that specific aftermarket model.

>>59801588
Ryzen R5 and a B350 motherboard

Is $180 a good price for an asus rx 480 4gb?

>>59801893
>4gb
eh
not really

>>59801893
It's a very good price, but you may want to wait for the Polaris refresh coming soon that will probably be the same price. I believe this month.

>>59798990
>VEGA in no way will do more at 2160p than the Titan Xp or 1080Ti can. Ever.

It seems that Nvidia is at least hedging against the possibility with their 1080 price drops, and the 1080 Ti's price is not very much above the launch price of Fiji/Fury X.

Pascal cards are just rewarmed servings of Maxwell, whereas Vega is presumed to be an actual architectural overhaul of GCN for once.

Doing my usual fresh install of Windows, of course, and I'm wondering what files I can delete before installing Nvidia drivers.

I know that the telemetry folder can fuck off. I know that the nodejs, I believe, files can be deleted. Anything else?

Does anyone have an example? I LITERALLY just want the video card drivers. I don't care about audio drivers or anything else.

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>been having rare GPU crashes ever since I got my GTX 970
>only been happening on newer intensive games at Ultra settings, probably just unoptimized games or the settings are too much for the GPU
>decide to play on High settings instead for those games
>play MW2
>GPU crashes as well
Ok what the fuck? Is MW2 unoptimized as well or is my GPU this fucking broken?

>>59803862
Try doing a clean reinstall of your drivers, otherwise it seems you got really fucked by the silicon lottery.

>>59795720
Sell your 970 meme and go to 1070 for roughly the same expense as the 480

What fucking 1080 should I buy?
People say EVGA, but their cards are a lottery to overheat.
People say ASUS or MSI but say that their customer support is awful.
People say Zotac is hit or miss, and nobody say shit about Gigabyte/PNY.

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>>59803996
Heres some anons opinion i screencapped, brother bought a gygabyte 1070 and it seems to work fine.

>>59803996
>EVGA, but their cards are a lottery to overheat.
That hasn't been true for a while now.
>ASUS or MSI but say that their customer support is awful.
Only true for ASUS, MSI is fine.
>Zotac is hit or miss, and nobody say shit about Gigabyte/PNY.
All three are fine.

>>59803996
>>59804017
>>59804021
>no inno3d
wow

>>59798830
The trick to prevent sag is to tighten the slot screw with a screwdriver. Thumbscrews have ruined everything.

>>59804021
I'm still wary of the EVGA cards. I'm sure some are fine, but having to install thermal pads to fix heating issues just feels worrying to me.

Considering the MSI Gaming X since it's down to 490 after rebate on Newegg, DUKE model is around the same.

I hear the Zotac Extreme Amp is great, but it's probably just a bit too bulky for my case. Mini is $490. They also have a 1070 for $320 which is tempting to just save the rest and buy more RAM and a new HDD.

Meanwhile, the PNY 1080 is 445~ but I don't hear a lot about them.

It's hard to make a decision because a lot of this shit just comes down to luck and customer service if you have an issue.

>>59803996
PNY is the sole retail board partner of quadro cards I had a reference 670 by them and it was pretty ok

>>59796092
>EVGA
Never again

>>59804083
Does that help that much? I have to use a screwdriver on my slot screws anyway because they're impossible to turn by hand, but isn't most of the weight still on the center of the card?

>>59798738
>Another example of how much easier women have it in life

Don't blame women for having it easy when it's thirsty niggas that are the ones enabling them.

>>59798584
It seems oddly competitive in more than half those tests. Much more than it should be, no?

>>59799641
>>59799940
Get a decent PSU that has built in surge protection, too.

>>59801401
>>59801444
Should be May. The fuck, august?

They've literally already been making them but they have millions of dollars of orders to fill for enterprise first while they work on drivers for consumers.

>>59801893
Not really when you can often find RX470 4GB for $110-$130.
That's much cheap for an only like 7-9% performance loss.

>>59804495
nog detected

>>59803996
Any other opinions on these? Also looking, waiting on the refreshed 1080's.

>>59795429
They didn't even bother giving it it's own shroud

PSA: the latest AMD drivers (17.4.1) are preventing my HD7950 from entering the lowest power state. This is probably because they enabled WattMan for Tahiti cards too and it couldn't read all the values for Pstates, so I rolled back to 17.2.1 and everything works again.

If you have a Tahiti/Pitcairn card and you installed the latest drivers I suggest checking, but maybe I'm the only poorfag that bothers with new drivers on old cards

>>59805780
my 380 has the same GPU Taihiti I'll have a check in the morning btw didn't notice much at all just a small bump in FPS.
On 17.4.1 was for the new mass effect game

If your having that problem try 17.3.1 its far More stable for your card IMO.

Hi /g/

I plan to buy a new graphics card in May, and could use some advice.

Is there any chance Vega will be out by then? Or shall I just go with a 1080? I only play world of warcraft 2560x1440@144hz

>>59798146
>They're just another heatsink but without actual cooling.
A heatsink with passive cooling is better than no heatsink at all. You're a dumb cunt for not knowing.

>>59795428
Fury X could get over 5000 in Firestrike Ultra

The Titan XP managed 8k (barely)

We're moving so fast guyz

>>59805780
Thanks for the heads up. Just updated today and picked the stable (17.2.1) over the latest (17.4.1). On a Tahiti R9 280X.

>>59808361
I mean you're basically saying the past two years was a fabrication refinement and an overclock. Yeah 50% is big increase but it was all clockspeed!

They won't even be able to go the next fab without annhilating clock speeds to below 1Ghz thus we'll need TWENTY FIVE BILLION transistors just to increase performance a little.

We're looking at the best vidya for a while

>>59795428
> are not gaymen cpu
It's more than that.
There's still no evidence R5 can be unlocked, so it's probably better to jump on R7 train once mITX boards are here.

>>59805780
Huh. My 480 freezes in FH3 on 4K (and only there), infamous 'colorful hang', wonder if there's a fix in that version.

>>59808478
IDK about unlocking cores but the multiplier is open

Any good deals on 470/480?

>>59808521
Yea they're around $180-200 burger bucks all the time. Just wait around for the brand and version to if it's not around that price already. All the best versions of the 480 have been on sale or around this price already. You could even pickup a R9 Fury for $230 dollars which is an even better deal.

>>59808423
>We're looking at the best vidya for a while
You say that, yet Vega is looking like a pretty huge leap forward.

Double the fp16 performance (most shader ops can be done at fp16 even though the graphics APIs derp and defaults to fp32 on anything anyway)

Extremely fast memory that acts almost like cache, where VRAM can essentially sit in system RAM.

>>59808478
>There's still no evidence R5 can be unlocked
Other than that people have already overclocked 1400s and 1600s, and AMD explicitly said they're all unlocked and they only require an "unlocked" motherboard to overclock?

I'd think they'd drop again when the RX500s come out.

>>59803996
Palit or Gainward. They have the best cooling solutions.

>>59803996
EVGA cards are safe now. Everything shipped after november last year comes modded and patched. The others are all okay, though i've heard gigabyte's pascal boards often come with terrible coil whine, which is shitty because i never had any problem with their cards.

>>59801276
Used brah. Still got over 2.5 years of warranty left though.

>>59798830
Even ny rx 470 has some saggage

Is the GTX 1050 better or worse than the Radeon HD7850? I'm thinking about replacing the gaymen PC I built back in 2013 with something like the Dell XPS 15 that I can just dock when I'm at home because I don't really play vidya all that often anymore, and when I do it's usually esports titles.

My Radeon HD 7770 is glitching out and for some reason performance in Borderlands 2 on Linux is terrible with it. What should I replace it with? I don't do a whole lot of gaming.

My CPU is an Athlon 860k overclocked to 4.2GHz, and I have 16GB of DDR3 1600. I use Antergos with KDE as my main OS, and I haven't loaded Windows in months.

>>59809472
>GTX 1050 better or worse than the Radeon HD7850
About the same.

>>59809546
RX460/470 or Nvidia 1050/1050Ti, can't remember if AMD or Nvidia is better suited for Loonix

>>59809565
I was considering something like one of those cards, I just don't know what has better Linux driver support between AMD and NV.

>>59809585
Seems like AMD has better open source drivers but Nvidia is better for gaymen with its proprietary drivers. I'd probably go for the RX460 just for the low power comsumption but it's probably going to perform just about the same as the 7770 in games.

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>TFW you bought a 1050ti and not scrape a few more dollars for a 470

NOVIDEOED.COM

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>>59809687
>yfw the 470 regularly go one sale now for $110-$130 when the much worse 1050ti is $140+

>>59809614
If the RX460 can use AMDGPU than that might help a fair bit. I'm stuck using the old Radeon drivers on my 7770, because I loaded AMDGPU up once and it absolutely tanked my performance in TF2. I was getting 30FPS in the fucking menus.

I'm not very big on supporting Nvidia, and from my experience AMD's proprietary drivers made it a hassle to do things like upgrade X or my kernel, or even compile a custom gaming branch of WINE. I'm not sure if NV's proprietary drivers are like this too, but I've heard their open source drivers are useless.

should i get the fx 480 now or wait for vega
I don't want to spend too much

>>59803862
Having settings cranked should never crash your drivers. Check to see if the card is getting too hot or not enough voltage

Does more power phases helps overclocking pascals at all? Every board benchmark i check is pretty much the same regardless.

>>59810451

If your bugdet is 480 territory vega is most likely going to be above it. Polaris will seemingly get rebranded for the 500 series.

>>59810890

Pascal (and maxwell) cannot into voltage so phases mean nothing on those chips. On those architectures that can take voltage abuse (like hawaii, kepler and to a lesser extent polaris) phasing matters.

>>59810890

>>59796224

>>59808821
Aren't these not even available in the US? Why the fuck would they do that?

>>59809145
I'd only get a EVGA card if it went on decent enough sale. 1080 prices seem to be up and down right now.

Is triple fan a necessity for pascals? It seems like complete overkill to me.

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>Get to pick between two terrible games if i buy a 1080
>Can't even sell them

>>59813662
You can sell them to people with a 1060, 1070, 1080 or 1080 Ti. Anybody can redeem the codes with one of those cards.

>>59813708
Wait really? I thought they were locked specifically to your board or some shit like that.

>>59813765
No, you just need GoyForce Experience installed and a valid card. The end result is a uPlay code.

>>59801105
>doesn't know titan Xp is Nvidia's latest titan
>doesn't know that titan XP is what people refer to as the 'old' titan so they could easily tell it is a Titan X-Pascal

I want to be a lich just to bring you back from the dead so you can kys in literally every way conceivable.

Is there really a difference in temps/noise between dual and tri-fan 1080's?

>>59814189
Only on full load. Dual fan is quieter, but around 2 or 3 degrees hotter. Honestly though tri-fan isn't necessary for pascals, they're really efficient cards.

>>59795462
>gigabyte 970 g1 for a sapphire 480 8gb
No, absolutely not. Those cards have close to identical performance in the vast majority of games and they perform similarly for many other tasks too.

I recently upgraded from a Radeon 7850 2GB to a RX 470 8GB. That's actually an upgrade of about 110% increase in raw performance. This wasn't primarily why I bought it, though, I needed more GPU RAM for some specific things but still, that's an actual upgrade. Going from 970 g1 to RX 480 isn't.

Is a 1070 a good upgrade from a 770? My 770 is the 2gb version and the lack of vram has been breaking my legs lately.

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>>59814272
Thank badooski. Makes me feel alright with my MSI 1080 I got for dirt cheap £550 upon pre-order.

>mfw plebs spent over £650 for pretty much same performance

>>59798839
>tfw i got a asus strix rx 480 8gb for $180

>>59798103
I used the exact same card as you except it was the 2GB version of the 7850 and bought almost the exact card you're looking at, RX 470 8GB.

If you've had the 7850 this long then you should probably also go for the RX 470 8GB version. I was running out of GPU RAM with some specific things on the 7850. GPU RAM will be used a lot more in the future, Chrome/Chromium already supports using the GPU for a whole lot of things. I turned these on in chrome://flags and Chromium will easily use 2GB of video memory with a few open windows. A nice thing about most RX 470's (I have the MSI one) is that they idle around 45C and you can safely have the fans off below 55C (or 60C according to MSI, I turn them on at 55).

>>59798261
>the 470 is already faster than the 970
No, those are pretty much identical in performance.

>>59798334
>will vega be good?
I doubt it will. AMD will most likely take on NVidia on price/performance. My guess is that it won't take on nvidia's $1000+ offerings but it will probably give you more bang for the buck at the performance it'll offer.

>>59798384
>Technically nvidia could drop the price of 1080 to like 400$
They won't, not unless AMD delivers something absolutely awesome and not just a bit better price/performance. Intel didn't drop their prices when Ryzen arrived.

>>59798429
>hbm is overrated
It's really got a lot of great potential but it requires the entire toolchain to be designed to take advantage of it. Game engines aren't really made to feed hbm2 memory fast enough.

>>59798436
>What about the 4gb rx 470, is there that big of a gap in performace from the 8gb model?
There is absolutely zero gap in performance. A CPU with 8 GB memory doesn't compute faster with 64 GB either. Buying the 8GB version is still a good idea because you can fill that memory with things.

>>59796590

>>59796700

>giving AMD till the end of this month to show a release date for vega
>if they don't i will buy a 1080
>1 week later vega will come out
>will have a card both faster and cost less than a 1080
fucking AMD i'm so close to turning back into a full nvidia shill.

>>59814890

>>59814867
>>59814886
>>59814900
Cut that out

>>59798112
>>59808245
In some cases they can actually insulate the GPU and can cause it to get hotter (heat from back of VRMs and chip)

Is Aorus the best 1080?

>>59815749
Every 1080 is the best 1080 unless it explodes.

>>59814694

It's a huge upgrade

>>59815749
Literally doesn't matter. Even the cheaper ones like the Palit JetStream are almost completely silent and reach Pascal's max overclock. Overbuilt "high end" cards are more snake oil than ever with how little power cards like the 1080 use.

>>59795428
Is the 1050ti as good as a rx 460/470/480?

>>59816449
It's not about power, dumdum, it's about quality.

>>59816491


It's about 1.25x better than 460

The 470 is 1.5x better than the 1050ti

Unless you're concerned about muh power usage or have a sff pc with a shite PSU, the 470 is better than it in EVERYWAY
>>59816589

>owning a GPU at all
>not using integrated graphics
LMAO

>>59818384
XDDDDD

GIGABYTE GTX 1060 Windforce OC, is it any good?

Is there a program I can download to track the performance of my graphics card? I want to know if I'm using my card to its full potential, and if it's time for an upgrade.

Fuck it, I'm waiting for navi for that sweet 7nm

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FUCK YEA EVGA STEP UP APPROVED SECOND 1080TI COMING IN HOT HERES HOW I FUCKING FEEL RIGHT NOW

THATS POWER SON

>>59819338
>EVGA STEP UP
Man i did not know about that. Thats pretty fucking cool.

>>59819384
It's awesome, and why I choose EVGA whenever I can. Nothing like getting a new GPU 9 months later for $150, 1080 FTW -> ICX upgrade -> 1080ti.

/shill

>>59795756
Underrated

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I have a 200 dollar budget. Currently using a gta 760. I want to die with my shitty frames in PUBG. Can anyone give me a couple card names as a start to look at?

Just found out that if you open Ryzen Master even to just take a look it automatically disabled XFR and Precision Boost leading to a 7.% loss in performance. I wonder how many tech reviewers did that before testing at stock.

>>59820533
RX 470 or GTX 1050ti

If you save another $30-60 you can move up to a 1060 6GB or RX 480. Solid 60 at 1080 for a while.

>>59820753
Don't be an asshole and recommend the 1050Ti to people who aren't doing mITX builds.

The RX470 is cheaper and 40-50% better.

>>59804826

Trump voter noted.

>>59808821
they are the cheapest shit build, its a hit or miss, better just get sapphire or msi

Thinking about jumping back to Green team and plopping down some dosh for a 1080 Ti (likely for Gigabyte AORUS or Gaming design). Mind you that I'm coming from an R9 390 and currently run in 1080p. Just looking to futureproof a bit while ensuring that when I want to make the jump to 1440p+, I'll already be ready. CPU is a 6600K at ~4ghz on air.

Am I reaching to far, or a reasonable upgrade looking forward? Also sick of >waiting for Vega

>>59822324
thats not a big improvement

>>59822324
>vidya card
>futureproof
the fuck why? you're paying out your ass for a higher tier model. buying way beyond the point of diminishing returns is retarded.

>bought a 1060 6gb
Did I get meme'd on?

>under 200 eurocoins

which gpu is it?

>>59795428
>>nvidia mobile gpus have the same performance than desktop gpus and even faster (1070)

Lets see it i call bullshit

>>59824806
Well, not /exactly/ the same, but they're pretty damn close.

https://youtu.be/SFwTJEa4eBE

>>59824806
He is right, they have the same spect and speed clock

I have a reference RX 480 and it reaches upto 87 °C under load (and 50 °C idle). What can I do to keep it cool and not throttle? I live in a hellhole and ambient temp is over 40°C these days.

>>59826167
>What can I do to keep it cool and not throttle? I live in a hellhole and ambient temp is over 40°C these days.
Nothing unless you're willing to water cool it.

>>59826188
Ok, how much will that cost? Where should I look?

>ryzen 1700/1800 are not gaymen cpu

will this shitty meme ever stop
99% of the time you will be gpu bound if you're playing on 1080p or 4k ultra settings/60fps lock which you should because 144hz is a case of greatly diminishing returns

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Is it safe to buy an EVGA 1080 nowadays or are they still going up in flames?

>>59826379
Unless you're buying from some really old stock for whatever reason then they're safe.

>>59826228
Kek

>>59826228
More than it would be to sell it and upgrade to a card that doesn't need fucking water cooling.

>>59826465
Are the ones called ACX okay? I thought they recalled them to upgrade them to ICX and thermal pad them.

>>59795428
>ryzen 1700/1800 are not gaymen cpu
what is this memery

games are made for CPUs not the other way around

>>59826279
1700/1800 are not gaymen cpus because you get 290 fps instead of 295 fps on 720p, goy

>>59795429
>super expensive titan
>better than 2 midrange cards in sli
Jesus Fucking christ did nvidiots just give up on the spin?

>>59827936
To be fair, the 1070 was better than the last titan.

>>59795428
Over clocked 1700 beat out anything but curent Gen i7 (which costs 100 AUD more) and still has 4 cores left over.

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pls tell me what i need to run the latest games on ultra at 1440p

>>59827964
60 fps 1070
144 fps 1080 or ti if it's high end unoptimized garbage

>>59827606
They didn't recall shit. The whole thing is a bit blown out of proportion and there's only one really fuzzy vid about the VRMs blowing up.

Nevertheless they acknowledged the problem, but you either have to do the ""upgrade"" yourself (at least they'll send you the pads) or send it in and possibly wait a couple of days for them to do it.

The problem only really occurred under ridiculous load with Furmark, but then again you would think that the card would thermal throttle or something to prevent itself from blowing up. Furmark is unrealistic game load but there's always the odd chance of a game dev fucking up and fully stressing the GPU by mistake.

The pads would've cost them 10 cents per card or something but they cheaped out, but what has it got them? Lots of negative PR, cost of replacing cards and sending out free pads. Backfired on their asses.

They made a new one (ICX instead of ACX) which is objectively better but is about $100 more expensive (both for the 1070 and the 1080) and has some useless shit (like 11 sensors). But the ICX (minus the bullshit sensors) is what the ACX should have been in the first place.
So EVGA won't get any money from me at least for this graphics card generation, even though they "fixed" it.

under 10nm when?

>>59827936
In what universe do you live in where 1070s are mid range? The 1060 is midrange.

>>59828139
Yeah. Everybody rants about how good their service and reliability is, but I'm really hesitant to buy a 1070/80 from them because of it. Not to mention that their cards aren't any less expensive than competitors, even after the issues.

>>59799450
I know A3 is a shoddy game, but isn't that issue more tied to the CPU because the Arma community is retarded and thinks more players = more fun and that 30FPS is acceptable. On single player, it's not that GPU intensive - A3 isn't even a good looking game.

>>59813787
FUKK :DDDD
I could have sell the game.

>>59828139
>The whole thing is a bit blown out of proportion and there's only one really fuzzy vid about the VRMs blowing up.
This.

Also, pretty much every ACX board is coming with the extra thermal pads installed and bios patched now.

>>59828735
Is there any reason to go for the ACX ones though? What do you get by going EVGA for 1070 or 1080 outside of their customer support?

Any reason not to get a Zotac or Asus one?

Currently got a GTX 670, should i just get an RX 470?
I have a 180€ budget.

>>59828785
Save more and get a 480 senpai

>>59827964
Depends what you mean by latest games. My RX 480 can run lots of new games at high or very high settings at 1440p above 60 FPS. I'm sure with others it'd struggle a lot.

This is just a test. ignore this post, it has nothing to do to with you. Any further inquiries will result in harm that will come your way, stop this actor tom cruise.

>>59827936
Where is vega?

>>59832041
Dropping in 5 minutes.

>>59828185
Was literally thinking the same shit, maybe bait not too sure.

>>59822324
A 390 is still really powerful for 1080p.
Why would you not wait for Vega/Volta/Navi?

>CPU is a 6600k
Your CPU is already bottlenecking the 390, dumbass.

>>59826167
Get an Artic Accelero cooler. I think some of the cheaper ones are only $40.

>>59828785
Yes. 470 is the best performance/$

>>59832041
May probably.

Convince me to not buy the EVGA ICX SC2

>>59834709
If you buy that then you're gay.

>>59834767
Yeah but will I be gay and satisfied?
Or should I go apeshit and blow another $140 on the 1080ti SC2?

>>59827936
>now fury x is a midrange card XDDDDDD

>>59797634
4u

>>59835275
I'm fairly certain R9 Fury outperforms even the new Titan Xp at 4K in virtually any DX12/Vulkan game that supports crossfire.

And 2 of them costs less than half as much as one Titan Xp.

>>59798075
Constant cooling/heating causes any platic material to deform in some ways. Which is why older high end cards starting from the radeon 6 series and nvidia gtx4 series you see them curved in some angles after years of usage.

Unless you have your gpu in standing instead of side inserted postition then very rare such thing occurs.

>>59801444
>reshade mods

Like adding shit tons of stickers, table fans and wings to a nice car oh and some eurobeat.

>>59832748

390 guy here. As I sit and consider it, I probably will sit out until another generation (or at least the rest of the year) to see what's coming.

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>MSI 1080 TI Gaming X still not in stock

>>59795429
>RX570 and 580
And I'm still here laughing my ass off and loving my Fury!

>>59822324
>CPU is a 6600K at ~4ghz on air.
What a waste. You should easily be able to hit 4.4~4.5 with that CPU on air.

Also if you're still on 1080p/60hz then there's literally no reason for you to upgrade from a 390 as that's still plenty powerful. You could even upgrade to 1440p/60hz and still be fine.

>>59836548
Fury x is on pair with the 980ti. The 1070 is way faster than 980ti. How the fuck fury x with 4 GB hbmeme can beat the new titan Xp?

>>59839638
Can you not read?
I said 2 of them.

GCN in general, and especially the Fury, is extremely good at 4k. Better than you'd expect based on its 1080p performance.

Like in Wildlands it goes from being 10% behind the 1070 at 1080p, to 5% behind the 1070.
And you can buy 2 R9 Furys almost for the cost of 1 1070.
And it does this despite GR Wildlands using 6.5GB of VRAM at 4k ultra and the R9 Fury only having 4GB

>>59795428
Why isn't there another brand for gpu ? :(

>>59839748
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Performance_Analysis/Ghost_Recon_Wildlands/5.html here's a source. Thought my numbers might have been up so went to double check.

But nope, that's accurate. In this Nvidia optimized game, 2 R9 Fury should be roughly equal to the new Titan Xp at 4K.
In a DX12 game, it should shit on it, just like the Radeon Pro Duo shit on the Titan XP.

>>59839764
Apple is working on making their own GPU. :^)

>>59839748
>>59839764
So...two fury will be faster than two 1070?

Okayyyyyyy

>>59840157
>So...two fury will be faster than two 1070
At 4k? Yes.

Retard.

>>59840238
No, just stop

>>59840251
u

>>59814959
stfu nigger ill rape you bitch ass homie nigger

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>>59840238
1.9x the fury x fps @ 4k and the fury is still slower

>inb4 aos

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_1070_2_way_sli_review,1.html

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>>59840375
Even @ 5k

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>>59840391
And dx12 games

>>59840375

>>59839769

>>59801444
>maxed out means maxed out
not everyone is willing to shill out 5000$ to brag with their epenis, some of us are responsible folk who still want to enjoy our games at reasonable graphical settings with reasonable frames. It won't kill them if they include high or medium settings in their benchmarks.

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>>59840405
TW (and BF1) aren't real DX12 games.
You know that, as a self-proclaimed expert in cherry picking benchmarks

>>59840391
>shadow of mordor

Who the fuck uses a bargin bin game from 3 years ago as a benchmark?

>>59796092
ZOTAC AMP EXTREME

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>>59795429
My single 1070 is faster than 1070s in sli

>>59796224
This guy assumed this based in his aio strapped to a 1060 by the way
He's just salty his 1060 isn't 3GHz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t18QbBdPK-8

sony on suicide watch.
nvidia gsync deprecated because all the mainstream tv will get freesync instead.

Current rig has a 980 and i7 4790 (non k) tempted to upgrade for improved performance on my 4K 60Hz monitor with freesync and HTC Vive HMD.
I think my CPU might bottleneck slightly on the 1080 Ti so I'd loose some performance and don't intend to upgrade my CPU just yet.

I run windows in a VM and pass the GPU through to it, Nvidia was fucking with Qemu (because of businesses undercutting Quadro by buying the cheaper gaming cards for their VMs) so I am worried they would release a driver that would break my current GPU passthrough setup.

Waiting a month on Vega sounds like a better option for me at this point, 1300AUD (980USD equivalent) for a 1080Ti here sounds absurd when compared to ~$700 in the US likely because it crosses the 1000AUD limit and gets taxed heavily by customs.
AMD is generally cheaper here, hoping it will be priced more sensibly around the 1080's current price point under 1000AUD, considering it is HBM2 I won't hold my hopes up Fury X was a fucking disaster here. Just need it to hold steady around 60Hz at 4K resolution with new releases, if 1080 Ti bottlenecks slightly I might end up better off performance per dollar wise with Vega depending on its price.

>>59842910
Uhhh the 4790 is not going to bottleneck 60hz. Where the fuck do you get that idea?

You just need a good GPU. Vega will almost surely be better at 4K.

>>59843115
I didn't do thorough research and it wasn't mentioned explicitly that it wasn't the case for 4K 60Hz, but it makes sense CPU would have to work harder to push 144fps even if at 1080p.

>Vega will almost surely be better at 4K
I saw it running Doom 4k ultra preset hovering around 60~65fps on stock settings if the footage is to be believed.
That would be sufficient, saw a benchmark of the same game running on a 980 which averaged around 37fps. so around 23fps gain would be something I can easily notice.

Being able to utilize freesync on my monitor as well sounds appealing. It all boils down to price now.

>>59843322
>I didn't do thorough research and it wasn't mentioned explicitly that it wasn't the case for 4K 60Hz, but it makes sense CPU would have to work harder to push 144fps even if at 1080p.
The CPU doesn't care how many pixels are on the screen.

1080p @ 60fps is usually exactly the same work for the CPU as 4K @ 60fps.

All you need is a better GPU.
>I saw it running Doom 4k ultra preset hovering around 60~65fps on stock settings if the footage is to be believed.
That was with it underclocked and on Fiji 1.2 drivers. It will do much better than that when it actually comes out and gets final consumer ref clocks.

Is there any point in having 4k or should I just stay at 1080p?

>>59844564
4K is a fucking meme, its completely pointless unless you have some huge ass screen.

>>59844803
You're a moron.

People sit very close to their pc monitors meaning they benefit from 4k.

On tv screens the screen has to be much bigger because people tend to sit much further away from it

>>59845482
What are the difference with 4k on a 13 in screen vs a 32 inch, or even a 60 inch screen when sitting like a foot away?

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