RIP FireFox

>not everyone uses it so its dead!!!

the autistic reddi.t consumerism really shows through out this board

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>>59795108
Less users == Less revenue for Mozilla == Less programmers == Shittier browser

You seem to be too stupid to be on this board. May I suggest you take your stupid ass back to plebbit since you clearly came from there, baka.

The only point in FF was ublock origin and umatrix for autists

>>59795270
>The only point in FF was ublock origin and umatrix for autists
Doesn't Chrome version work just as well?

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How did Microsoft fuck up IE so much?

>a lower percentage of more users
It has more users now than ever before.

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I think that's outdated. This shows that they're at 11.8%. Still pretty low, though.
https://www.netmarketshare.com/browser-market-share.aspx

>>59795155
works on my machine, I use an older fork anyway

>>59795360
>>59795094
It's because the herds of morons saw a bunch of Chrome ads and decided to get it. They don't care about all the spying.

I block Chrome users from my sites.

>>59795430
>I block Chrome users from my sites.
blocking >90% of users... kek
you're a fucking hipster then. kek.

>>59795470
I don't care if low-IQ people don't use my site.

>>59795474
low IQ people use a slower browser and waste their life away waiting.

can't buy your time back.

Firecuck/SJW users are the dumbest of them all.

>>59795474
Clearly ur site iz fer fgts

>>59795474
pls post a link to some evidence that chrome users are lower IQ than everyone else

>>59795094
Who gives a shit about market share? I'm going to keep using Firefox until other browsers stop being more shit than Firefox.

>>59795430
its because firefox is shit. lackluster support for emerging html5 functions, slow as shit, still a single process, filled with useless junk.

At the end of the day, chrome is bloated, but it's fast and offers about as good customization as firefox will, once the lockdown completes. and critically - it's fast and reliable.

>>59795155
But Firefox doesn't make money from users...
Right?
Firefox is not botnet, right?

>>59795528
Funny, I've never experienced any of the problems you describe when using Firefox. Maybe it's because I'm not a moron who downloads every bit of malware I come across.

>but Chrome will be customizable one day! honest!
No, it won't. It will always be a shitty botnet browser that won't let you install anything that harms Google's interests.

Correct me if i am wrong, but hasnt FF had single process only not that long ago? I had to install Nightly and turn on multiprocessing and it crashed regularly. And I am a 50+ tabs kind of guy so I just sticked with Chrome as a main browser.

>>59795517
>Who gives a shit about market share?
another retard who thinks developers don't cost money.

you're retarded, right?

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>>59795430

>>59795557
Edge is genuinely good

Google are a bunch of cucks that try at every single turn to switch you to chrome though. It's hilarious and annoying at the same time.

>>59795591
ah yes, it must be slow because I've downloaded every malware out there. Thanks for the explanation

>>59795657
You'd be surprised. Most Chrome users think malware is actually good software helping them. You probably don't even realize you're infected.

>>59795094
It was dead years ago.

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Once Mozilla kills off XUL, what will all you firecucks do? KYS? kek.

There's no point in using Fireshit once XUL addons are dead and Mozilla gives you "chrome-light" web extensions.

>>59795766
Decent extensions are literally the only reason to use firefox. Once they kill that, they have zero advantage over chrome.

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Not really, Firefox is the second most popular desktop browser.

>>59795796
>d most popular
LOL... the diff between #1 and #2 is HUGGGE. even illiterate can tell firefox is dead.

>>59795812
If firefox is dead then so is everything else, you may as well eat shit millions of flies can't be wrong.

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>>59795796
>not even twice as many users as IE, a dead browser

>>59795307
Yes, even funnier is that ublock and umatrix are chrome extensions that were ported to firefox.

Uninstalled Firefox months ago, now using chromium. I refuse to use software from a company ran by cucks and feminists

>>59795320
They didn't, in the beginning google paid people to bundle chrome in to installers and called it "ad/app partners" or something dumb like that, what the essentially did was use malware tactics to not only install chrome but set it as default on windows machines.

>>59795855
Chromium is Google, and they're just as SJW-happy as Mozilla.

i was a hardcore firefox fanboy for 10 years

but i can't do it anymore, they fucked everything up

SJW ruin fucking everything

i use Chrome now out of spite

>>59795879
just now: http://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/08/google-accuse-underpaying-female-workers.html

>>59795898
No you weren't a firefox fanboy. A firefox fanboy will never use chrome. Firefox is about FOSS.

>>59795628
>Google are a bunch of cucks that try at every single turn to switch you to chrome though
Because Microsoft isn't trying to force Edge on you?

>>59795918
>force
>it's installed with the OS because the OS needs to come with a web browser
>implying its reasonable for an OS to ship without a web browser


Listen to yourself, fuck.

>>59795907
he didnt say he was foss fanboy you fucking faggot

>>59795094
This is fake.

>>59795938
Microsoft showed that it was reasonable to let the user choose a browser at OS install time with some European versions of XP. There's no excuse now.

>>59795962
SO he wasn't a firefox fanboy. Firefox is not just a browser. It's a FOSS browser.

>>59795766
Already moved onto chrome because of this. No reason to use a shittier chrome-like at that point.

What would be faster on a Linux laptop (Core Duo 1.2ghz, 2gb RAM), Firefox or Chromium?

>>59796013
lynx

>>59795766
>we are the champions
Dear Dog, their are hit the sky.

>>59796013

browser() {
    wget $1 -q -O - | less
}

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>>59795973
>agreeing with EU cuckery
>let's throw a menu in the user's face at government gunpoint

neck yourself. if someone really wants to use a different browser, microsoft doesn't stop them from doing so.

I use Brave on my phone and desktop now.

Is the new for me

>>59795155
>Less users == Less revenue for Mozilla == Less programmers == Shittier browser

Your equation doesn't explain Microsoft browsers being shit forever.

>>59796084
fuck off back to plebbit.

>>59796095
>i.e is a good browser
Why, /pol/?

>>59795094
I use it because chorme's add-ons aren't good enough. Mainly the addon to download youtube videos and to have multiple rows of tabs.

>>59795094
The site is completely inaccurate and should not be taken seriously.

>>59796427
>I use it because chorme's add-ons aren't good enough. Mainly the addon to download youtube videos and to have multiple rows of tabs.
in few months time, you 'll be forced to lose those addons. wat then?

>firefox is killing all vertical tabs addons
>chrome will never get vertical tabs
There's no where to go.

>>59795597
e10s had been stable for like 2 years now
A lot of legacy plugins aren't compatible with e10s though, and Mozilla trashing devs discourages their development

>>59795766
I will stay on ESR 52, then probably migrate to Palemoon, surf, Qutebrowser or something similar

>>59796676
>migrate to Palemoon, surf, Qutebrowser or something similar
Enjoy not ever getting timely security updates and getting pownd by fucking script kiddies that hack some site you go to.

>>59796699
A lot of people will migrate to one of those, pretty much every power user will, thus development will speed up a lot
Also, Palemoon receives security updates faster than Fx, the others are WebKit based so they receive the same updates as Chrome
>>59796684
What's up with mods purging this old and eternal tradition nowadays? I've been noticing this a lot lately
They're killing anything slightly related to politics, it's slightly nice though

>>59796806
>A lot of people will migrate to one of those, pretty much every power user will
You're delusional.

And completely wrong about sec updates. Palemoon often lags 3-4 weeks behind FF.

>>59795094
>no one centralized browser is never cause for concern

>>59796836
>everyone will just stay on Firefox shitty Chrome edition or migrate to Chrome!! 11!!!
sure senpai

Redpill me on Brave guys. It's fast but I can't even rearrange my fav bookmars or open it in a separate window, let alone enable a vpn plug-in.

>>59795094
firefox is slow as fuck

>>59796938
This is true, i'm a hardcore firefox fanboy but even I get annoyed by how slow this browser is. Not even oc'd i7 4790k can keep up.

>>59795094
Yeah it's the only browser not owned by a marketing company.

>>59795430
People who voluntarily use Google anything and functional retards.

>ie still at 12+%
yummy

>>59797000
last time I checked, Safari's not owned by a marketing company.

>>59797046
People who voluntarily use Google anything and functional retards what? You forgot the rest of your sentence pumpkin

Mozilla ignored people's needs. Mozilla is self-righteous and makes bad decisions against people's needs. This is the sin of Mozilla. Firefox is slow to use and trying to cut down features. Mozilla want to be chrome. just wants That.

>>59795094
That's a big slice of "other".

They only check Firefox 51 and 52. I still have 50 on my laptop f.e. because I just don't feel like updating everything all the time; and that's coming from an update junkie, so expect plenty of non-tech people to have older versions too. Those are now considered "other" too. And how about FF forks? Do they count as firefox or their own browser?

Get some better data, this is useless.

>>59797152
>I DON'T LIKE THIS DATA BECAUSE IT PUTS MY BROWSER IN A BAD LIGHT, GET DATA I LIKE
kek.. all that butthurt.

>>59796806
>the others are WebKit based so they receive the same updates as Chrome

Chrome doesn't use WebKit anymore. Apple maintains it.

>>59795984
GNU IceCat is, retard.

>>59796910
It's just a shitty Chromium. Remove it.

>>59795867
they are still doing it

>>59795094
Who honestly uses Memoryfox these days instead of one of the many vastly superior forks?

>>59795492
Can't buy information about yourself from botnet back.

>>59797334
>Can't buy information about yourself from botnet back.
I can always use adblockers and tracker blockers. also, ungoogled chromium.

>>59797305
Can you name me a good one and by good i mean one that isn't palemoon or waterfox because i used both of those and they're fucking memes

>>59797384
Ungoogled chromium is pain in the ass to use though. What if I want the line between being a securefag and wanting to browse the web seamlessly?

>>59797412
It takes some 10 min to setup addons. After that, you don't have to touch it and can just copy folders around if you ever use different machines, OSes.

>>59796644
They goal is browser.html where tabs are vertical.

>>59797412
Midori.

>>59796806
>Also, Palemoon receives security updates faster than Fx
How is this possible?

>>59797478
Hasn't had an update since August 2015

>>59797495
>How is this possible?
Palemoon is from an alternate universe where they can time travel.

>>59797478
It's dead, Jim!

>>59797469
What did he mean by this?

>>59797541
>>59797508
Who fucking cares, why would you want an update for a webkit browser?

>>59797186
He's right, you know very well your average user doesn't know much. There's loads of people on windows XP with far older versions of the browser

>>59797556
CVEs

>>59795108
First your candidate lost, now your browser lost.

>>59797553
Firefox is gonna replace Gecko with Servo and browser interface to browser.html.

>>59795557
edge needs ublock, umatrix, lastpass and https everywhere, Any browser without those extensions is useless.

>>59796041
so edgy.

>>59795094
It's slow as fuck and bloated with unnecessary features. Who wants to use it unless you're a fedora tipper?

>>59797591
>browser interface to browser.html.
Source? This is news to me
>>59797607
>not using SmartHTTPS

>>59797692
>SmartHTTPS
How is better than HTTPS Everywhere?

>>59797706
Not a bloated pos and checks dynamically for HTTPS rather than relying on some retarded db.

standard firefox devours ram, chrome devours ram and information, seamonkey and palemoon barely have any compatibility with most extensions and IE is out of the question
is there a single browser that isn't shit?

>>59797692
> Source? This is news to me
Just google it, it's browser for servo engine, current one is depending on XUL. They don't want to port firefox to gtk4 and later.

>>59797766
get better ram so you can use chromium or firefox
you worthless piece of shit

>>59797743
>>59797706
And it's webextension.

>>59797779
not everyone is an american with disposable income up the ass, anon
plus, chromium is not only tied to jewgle, but i can't find a single installer for it that doesn't make my antivirus screech

>>59796953
works fine on my athlon ii x3 450.

aka. stop lying

>>59797774
Damn It looks slow and bloated

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>>59797186
>I posted shit data to piss people off.

>>59797825
>american
not even
am a proud eurofag from debtland, you fucking poorfag
>tied to jewgle
I said Chromium, not Chrome
>can't find a single installer that doesn't make my antivirus screech
https://chromium.woolyss.com/
don't worry anon, the russian ransomware won't encrypt your files
also
>antivirus
>signature-based fuckshit
why the fuck

>>59795094
>ie11 wiping the floor with ff
kek

>>59797894
>shit data
https://www.netmarketshare.com/browser-market-share.aspx?qprid=2&qpcustomd=0

>>59795094
What a useless graph.
A pie chart sort of makes sense if you want to visualize a split in usage, but when you use such a tool, you have to adapt the data so you can display something meaningful.

The entire point of a graph is to convey information and this graph fails on every level.

When you gather information like this, you don't have a third of the data marked as "unknown".
And if it is hard to track, you simplify the data when you make such a graph.

Don't they teach children how to make a graph in burgerland?
Or is this such a specialized skill that is reserved for those who get a degree?

I don't really care much about who uses what browser, but that graph is so offensive.
If a student handed that to me, I would not just fail them, I would make them rethink their desire to get a degree.

>>59795094

honestly doesnt matter, it's good news actually. Less browser engines = more unified browser features.
I see zero problems with this. Chrome is open source as well, so if you ever disagree with anything they do - just fork it.
It's literally no problem, Google doesnt even make it that hard to do.
Competition means that sometimes people and companies lose and go under. This is perfectly fine.

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>>59795766
Mozilla is developing new APIs so that most add-ons can be ported.
Death of XUL will ultimately be good for Firefox.

>>59798574
>Two or more races
I love when racists failed to understand the diversity of reality.

>>59798494
>it's good news actually. Less browser engines = more unified browser features
It's Internet Explorer all over again. I don't know how you faggots can defend that. Probably too young to remember what it actually was like when IE had like 90 % marketshare.

>>59798574
If that's true then why have all the major addon devs quit?

>>59795320
Have you ever used IE 5 or 6?

>>59795474
I have a PhD and I use chrome. Fuck you

>>59795766
No wonder why they're going downhill.

>>59798791
PhD in shitposting maybe

>>59798634
Google is a "good" company for most younglings.

>>59798574
isn't hiring people on the basis of race or gender, you know, kinda bigoted? why does anyone support these racist sexist pigs?

>>59795094
I am firefox user, I know nothing about chrome, does chrome have customisation options and addon equivalent of firefox? I might switch but I use allot of addons and if same features arent available on chrome then I wont.

ITT: chrome subhumans

>>59799122
Customization: 0.
Addons: Very similar.
Just make sure you get Chromium instead of Google Chrome. The latter is severe botnet. (actually Chrome's main issue is its aggressive disk cache system that wears out hard drives)
>>59799192
kys

>>59795094
Jewgle Chrome is becoming the new IE6

>>59799024
Because "you can't be racist against white people"
I did an interview for $5 with some sociology students and they asked me about diversity quotas, and I explained to them the definition of racism being "unique treatment based on the color of skin, either positive or negative", and then said those quotas are inherently racist.

They really did not like that answer.

>>59799556
things that never happened

>>59795796
>>59795360
>>59795320
God, this is no good. Dont people realize the danger of giving one company all the marketshare? Google is quietly becoming whatMicrosoft was back in 90's-early 00's, only that now its way worse and there is even less privacy.

>>59799596
>Dont people realize the danger of giving one company all the marketshare?
You act like people sit at home, and consciously decide whom to give their marketshare instead of deciding which program to use.

>>59795907
>Firefox is about FOSS.
and FOSS is a SJW infested whorehouse.

the fems and betas will take FOSS down and all that sail in it.

>>59795972
report fake news to google...

>>59799652
Yeah, I know I'm asking too much from the average joe thinking they should try diff browsers instead of just using the one in vogue or the one that is installed by default in their device.

>>59799792
Normies use Chrome because their open pages, saved passwords and bookmarks follow them to their phone from their PC.

It's an excellent feature that all browsers should aim to copy.

>>59799864
>saved passwords and bookmarks follow them to their phone from their PC.

That doesnt seem any dangerous. At all.

>>59799864
Firefox does that, too, though.

>>59799924
Not if it's properly encrypted.

>>59797586
what is this even supposed to mean?

They're losing marketshare, but that can happen if your numbers hold steady while the market expands, so no biggie.

>>59800172
To use sync with chrome, you need to create a personal password specifically for encrypting/decrypting your synced data.

>>59799596
google;s the most dangerous company today.

>>59795094
Wrong. Firefox 51+52 are under 8%.
Firefox 45 ESR is still maintained and used, especially on conservative corporate systems.

>>59795094
cyberfox is better

>>59803175
>cyberfox
Never heard of it so I looked it up... LOL... just another dead browser.

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That's odd... why does traffic on my site look like this?

It's a shame because slowkit and everything based on it is trash

Explain to me how Chrome beat Firefox.

>>59803284
You run an autist site

>>59795094
>Others
>29.38%

What

>>59803295
>Explain to me how Chrome beat Firefox.
Google spent their money and developer time on Chrome while Firefox spent their money on SJW programs and hiring a """diverse""" developer workforce full of unqualified retards of various shades of black and brown.

>>59795155
*fewer
*fewer
You seem to be too stupid to be on this board.

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Low marketshare isn't necessarily bad, Opera rode at 1% for over a decade and was the best browser.

>>59797495
The Palemoon dev is an autistic furry and pushes builds ASAP, Mozilla takes their sweet time
>>59797791
HTTPS Everywhere is webextensiom
Doesn't fix the bloat though

>>59799516
>(actually Chrome's main issue is its aggressive disk cache system that wears out hard drives)
I had already read about that and moved my Chrome cache from my SSD to HDD to avoid 'wearing' the SSD. Now I wonder if it isn't actually wearing my HDD more. What should I do?

>>59797607
>Lastpass
Passwords saved by a third-party website that has been proven to have multiple vulnerabilities.

Firefox mobile have extension support so there's that. It's overal nicer than Chrome in my phone.

>>59795320
They didn't. Chrome just came along and worked better than IE ever did.

>>59795833
>If firefox is dead then so is everything else

Yeah. What's your point?

>>59804042
>Opera rode at 1% for over a decade and was the best browser

Then it died because it had so few users and they couldn't afford to keep developing Presto. Now it's just a rebranded Chrome with a free Chinese botnet.

>isn't necessarily bad

>>59804837
>then it died
Yeah, after nearly 20 fucking years

I'm sick of firefox and hate that it isn't the browser or movement that it was in 2004 but there is literally nothing else.

>>59804883
And? It's still dead. Firefox will be as well in the not too distant future and all you'll have is a choice between Google's throbbing botcock or Apple's. You sit there and comfort yourself with the fact that Opera once existed though.

>>59804951
And if Opera did it for 20 years I see no reason Fx can't last another 20.

>>59795155
Less programmers = better browser

It's when you hire a bunch of fucking programmers right out of College that they want to change shit instead of spending 2 months fixing a single bug. I don't need the menu bar to be hidden in some sore of Hamburger button.

>>59804999
you've obviously never worked for a software company. stay in school kid.

>>59804139
> HTTPS Everywhere is webextensiom
Not on AMO, only if you install from chrome store.

>>59795094
HOW DO I DOWNLOAD OTHER BROWSER. IT SEEMS TO BE 2ND MOST POPULAR

>>59795094
Still the most popular foss browser that dosent force the 16gb ram meme on you.

>>59803295
Google is an advertising company. They massively advertise their browser on their own sites (Google, YouTube) and use malware tactics (bundle Chrome with other software).

>>59808779
google is malware itself.
if you use windows you'll see that persistent google installer background process plus their ad revenue is not as big as their metadata spying revenue.

>>59808761
that doesn't mean much now.

>>59797586
What?

>>59795766
I'll switch to a branch because Firefox is open source :^)

>ITT fag trust analytic websites blocked by most Firefox users
good show. old chap

>>59810177
>blocked by most Firefox users
sure thing.

>>59797607
>lastpass
lmao

>tfw opera even now is still the browser

>>59795094

Is CHromium counted as Chrome or in Other?

>>59810456
Chrome of course.

>>59810456
They use the same user agent, so they're counted as the same thing

>>59810484
>>59810500

Redpill me on Chromium, is it as good as anons say? Is it free from google spyware?

>>59810518
it has less. if you don't want google spyware, you should look into these:

ungoogled chromium
yandex browser
vivaldi

all these are based off chromoium but don't have google shit in them. yandex even has built-in encrypted DNS.

>>59810518
>Is it free from google spyware?
It has some features that contact google, like search prediction in the omnibar and maintaining a malware domains list, but you can turn them all off. Nothing really more than Firefox does.
You can also use ungoogled-chromium or apply the ungoogled-chromium patches to a more recent source if you don't want it to contact google ever.

They brought this on themselves by trying to be a shitty Chrome clone. They should have stuck to the power user market.

I'm honestly surprised they still have 8% left.

>>59800468
>that can happen if your numbers hold steady while the market expands
Which is not what is happening here.

>>59810559
>yandex browser
has Russian spyware instead.
Pretty sure Vivaldi has some spyware too, but I’m not sure about this one.

>>59795320
It was always bad, better alternatives just came.

>>59795430
>implying they are interested in your furry posting blog

>>59810762
>has Russian spyware instead.
are you from russia? if not, you should use it. why? because the country you;re from probably has no way of accessing that data. there isn't a single US or EU judge that can request your data from Yandex.

>>59795320
It didn't keep up with the times. It brought extension support too late with Edge.

Also yeah it was slow as shit already.

>>59810968
We’re currently running the elections in my country (France), and the candidate highest in polls (Le Pen) is unofficially supported by Russia.
So no.
(Well, I’ll soon leave this country anyway)

>>59795094
Still better than Chrome.

>>59811063
We are fucked m8

>>59811063
>is unofficially supported by Russia.
you're an idiot. she's not supported by anyone. watch less CIA news, Mohammed.

https://wikileaks.org/cia-france-elections-2012/

>>59812046
>hurr durr, she’s not supported in 2017 by Russia, look at this document about the 2012 elections which is surely relevant since absolutely nothing can change in 5 years

>>59812167
>muh Putin
What makes you think that Putin has the power to influence an election in Western Europe, Chaim? He barely has control over ex-USSR countries. Stop gurgling state sponsored propaganda designed to shame everyone who opposes EU cuckery as a foreign agent.

>>59812167
you're a fucking idiot. russia has the budget 1000th of what US has. if anyone's manipulating, it's the US.

why the fuck do you think your country's been overrun by 3rd world black people and muslims? did russia do that to you? are they driving those trucks in Nice?

you're a motherfucking idiot. your country's done yet you're repeating MUH PUTIN bullshit that CIA feeds you.

kys so some Muhammed doesn't have to.

>>59795094
Their biggest mistake was gerri g rid of theathe as and now plugins. I mean what is the point if using it now that it is a woruse chrome clone?

>>59795094
>It's basically dead at this point... Cause for concern?
more like cause for celebration. firefox is a dead project more concerned with activism than a quality product. it should die and make space for real browser projects like brave.

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>>59795094
I strongly think that's a cause for concern. That's not because I use Firefox much anymore, I don't. It's quite frankly a slow pile of junk.

I remember when Seamonkey forked off to become phoenix then firebird and then firefox. Back then it was all about making a lean fast browser. At some point the Firefox Corporation decided to focus on adding bloat while removing useful features. Then they moved on to ignore development of the browser all together in order to focus on SJW bullshit.

These are reasons why I would be happy to see Firefox die. There is, however, a reason why I am not happy with this: It basically leaves Google with a monopoly on browsers - specially on the GNU/Linux platform. Remember, there is no GNU/Linux Internet Explorer or Safari. The usable alternatives are/were Chrome/Chromium or Firefox (Firefox isn't much of an alternative anymore, though, too slow and bloated).

>>59795492
>Firecuck/SJW users are the dumbest of them all.
To be fair a lot of us (like me) started using Firefox long, long before they went all SJW. And I still use it for some specific things.

>>59795528
>its because firefox is shit. lackluster support for emerging html5 functions, slow as shit, still a single process, filled with useless junk.
To anyone trying to deny this, it's absolutely true and you can easily check it out for yourself.

Firefox has a feature called "profiles" where you can have one browser profile for home and one for work. Start firefox and open two windows and run something JavaScript-intensive in both. Now try starting one firefox --ProfileManager instance with one profile and another one with another profile. This will spawn two unique Firefox processes (with different settings etc). Try running two windows like that side by side with the same intensive JavaScript. The difference is HUGE.