/pcbg/ - PC Building General

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It's not working. It's top of the line, games running at 144fps, it looks great but I'm still not happy. I was happier researching it because I had something to do. Why is it so hard to not hate every second of your life? I really thought the computer would make me happy

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7cjXNN

For 3D modelling/rendering and gaming

Going X370 for extra sata/usb. Don't care for all the gaymen stuff on this one, but it's the best I could find compared to the ASRock Taichi which still doesn't fucking exist. Placeholder ram, still looking at compatibility.

Mobo is still the major variable. Thoughts?

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>>59788897
If you're bored, learn C and ASM and build your own operating system from scratch. Welcome to hobbyist programming.

>>59789098
What do you 3d model, anon?

Also, you need a storage device.

>>59788897
>Buys new GPU
>benchmark a few games with old GPU
>pop in new one
>benchmark first game
>'yup... it's faster'
>back to not-playing-any-videogames

>>59789168
stuff. Not much to show for yet. Got plenty of storage already.

>>59789196
But, I mean what area of modelling. Organics, sculpting, lowpoly, hardsurface, subdivision/high-poly. If you're new, go make a polycount account.

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>>59789190
>have 760 it plays all the games i never open just fine
>miserable want to die
>buy 1060
>oh man this is so sick
>spend days overclocking and benching, run into nvidia jewery
>6 months go by
>miserable
>buy 980ti hybrid for $350
>spend weeks tweaking the bios overclocking and benching
>miserable again

uhhh i guess its open loop time

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Which one should I get?

Hitachi seems to have a lower failure rate, and is cheaper per memory. It looks like a no brainer, but I'm curious why people like WD more here?

>>59789512
trust your brain

>>59789586
My brain says "I have no idea what I'm doing and just saw a meme image with failure rates"

>>59789632
Do you have any legitimate use for more than a terbyte? I'm a heavy user, use about 800gb of bandwidth a month, tons of games and media, programs, etc on my PC and yet a 500gb ssd and old 500gb hdd are sufficient for me because I have no problem deleting shit when I'm done with it. I would get the Hitachi as long as it's not a refurb or anything and if you need more storage in the future grab a second one and raid0 it.

>>59789669
Movie storage, game storage, picture backups from my other devices, audio files.

I've been on this same 750GB HDD for several years now and while I manage, I could easily fill up 2TB. I use an external hard drive right now to store all my movies, so it'd most likely be more of that.

I'm just more concerned about which manufacturer is more reliable and if anyone has any experience with either.

from previous thread.

>>59789408
>You have this idea that there's all sorts of shit you can put in those PCI slots, but there just isn't. 99.99% of people only put a single GPU in one of them and that's it. There's a small handful that might add a sound card.
Most mATX cases are bland and look like ass. It's why I started looking at mid-tower cases in the first place. This is the other case I was considering.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811353080&ignorebbr=1

>You'll also likely replace your motherboard when it comes time to upgrade since LGA1151 is an EoL socket.
fair enough, but how much longer would I have to wait for that to happen?

>Which is why I originally said you might want to wait and spend an extra $100 for one of the upcoming Ryzen APUs (Ryzen with integrated graphics) since that'll be way better and way more upgradeable, but they aren't out yet and will cost a bit more.
Would prefer to stay Intel.

My friend asked me to build him a PC for gaming. He doesn't plan on doing any overclocking but asked it to be relatively beefy. How does this look?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qvBmvV

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>still contemplating if I have to upgrade my fury x
>only play ffxiv on 4K

Is the RX 500 series going to be a big leap or the usual incremental change? I'm about to pull the trigger on an RX480 8GB because all the main stores are clearing out their stock at pretty decent discounts.

>>59790074
500's are going to be a refresh with 5% difference at best. If you see a cheap price on a rx480 go for it.

How would I go about shopping for full water cooling loops? Ekwb is too expensive.

>>59788897
join a teamspeak anon and make friends.

>>59789893
That case is shit. Thing is hideous and will be extremely cheaply made at that price... but it's big right? lel

Anyway, there's nothing wrong with mid towers but all that other guy is saying is you're just short changing yourself in terms of portability and price if you have no use for all that space.

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>>59788897
>tfw have cash to upgrade my pc
>tfw can't pull trigger because afraid of regretting so much money on vidya

Im still on a athlon x4 640 someone put me out of my misery

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>>59789190
>had a GT 9600 since the fucking launch
>"oh wow these things aren't running very well, I should really upgrade"
>do so
>turns out the upgrade means jack shit because I was being bottlenecked by my CPU in the first place
>>59790158
eyy

>>59789495
Eternal suffering, mental problems perceived to be in the physical, get some help

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I want to upgrade the graphic card and be done with for maybe ~2 years.

Suggestions?

Is there any possibility of /g/ helping me figure out a good build? I just don't know enough about all the different CPUs, mobos, ram, and GPUs to not make a mistake on my purchase.
I'm looking at an ATX or mATX build with 8gb of ram, a decent CPU (quad core is fine, more is better if price fits), and a GPU that beats my current GTX 760. I don't really care about overclocking or aesthetic of the internals too much, if that matters.
My current budget is about $800-$900 USD.

Could you /g/entooman help out a poor brainlet like me?

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>>59790179
>>59790158
ha ha

Country:Mexico.

RX460 or GTX 1050Ti?

>>59790500
ti

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>>59790323
Enjoy.

>>59790927
Why not changing the ram to 8gb and switching to 8gb rx480?

Hows Ashes of singularity on the CPU? Am I looking at i5 7600k/ whatever Ryzen equiv is and a 1060 6gb/rx480?

>>59790957
~60fps at 1080p on like high graphics or so.

>>59790940
No real difference between RX480 4gb and 8gb.

>>59789196
I hope your not modeling just so you can buy the Ryzen meme

How much is a RX 480 worth second hand? Also should AMD cards be bought second hand off ebay? I heard that bitcoin miners usually run the hell out of them before trying to pawn them off.

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>>59790970
>No real difference

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RX500 benchmarks

https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/radeon-rx-550-570-and-580-3dmark-performance.html

https://www.techpowerup.com/232129/amds-rx-580-570-and-rx-550-specifications-and-3d-mark-results-leak

>>59791933
>rx 550
For what purpose?

Also is a R9 380x still worth buying in 2017 second-hand for $100?

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>>59788897
>I-I'll get a PC when the Ryzen's released (this was probably 2 years ago)
>fast forward to now and still using an almost 5 year old "ultra"book
>going to Just Wait™ for Zen 2 because it's surely be more refined by then
>don't even know why I read about PC stuff when I'm so reluctant to spend

>>59788897
Same thing happens with cameras, trying to resist the urge to buy a new lens or external flash, haven't been out shooting in months.

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Holy shit, with all the shills i cant even decide whether to get intel or ryzen.

Here is what i have in mind so far.

>cpu
Ryzen 1600
>mobo
Ab350-m gigabyte gaming 3
>ram
8gb 2x 3200 mhz
>gpu
1060 6gb oc (already purchased)
>psu
Seasonic m2ii 520w
>case
Silencio 365

Or

>locked i7 7700
>cheap mobo
>cheap ram
>cheap everyrhing

I will be gaming/videoediting/recording/streaming with the pc.

Who should i trust, the pajeet or the goys..

>>59792760
Whichever is cheaper desu. Both CPU's are great choices.

>video games console assembly general

>>59792901
Why else would you need a PC you dumb cuck?

>>59790158
You can try justifying it by using the PC for other things, like video editing or whatever

>>59793035
work, study, art creation, crypto mining and more

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>>59793221
>crypto mining

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my first build

>>59792760
gee maybe you should wait until they're out or something

>>59788162
>Otherwise get an i5/r5
I was under the impression i5s are not a reasonable choice, the core:threads ratio compared to r5s

>>59793381
Looks k. Consider going RX 480 or 1060 6GB, since there's small price difference and performance is much higher

>>59793381
>not even waiting those few days for Ryzen 5 to see if it's worth it

>>59793381

>ded CPU

lol

>>59793551
calm down, i'm buying it next month these are just the best parts i can currently buy in my country within my budget

>>59793381
the only 6GB 1060 that are within my budget are made by Palit and Inno3D. are their card good?

I found a single ram stick 16 gb being cheaper than 2 8 sticks here locally. Should I go for it even though no dual channel? I only game on it.

>>59793526
see
>>59793717

Would a g4560 bottleneck an rx480?

>>59793758
>Would a g4560 bottleneck an rx480?

No, why would it?

>>59793772
Wrong. It depends on the game, try playing it with GTA V and you'll see.

>>59793743
Anyone?

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I can't decide between these two builds, help me out.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PdQVyf
or
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/696XNN

>>59793933
You need to install gentoo

>>59788897
SEND IT TO MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I just got a new video card and I didn't expect it to be so wide. It comes out much, much further than the lip of the bracket, so when I plug in the PCIe power connector I almost can't close my case. I can close my case, but the wires have to bend quite a lot.

I'd like a neater solution. Is there a place other than ebay where I can find a PCIe 6 pin right angle adapter? Ebay does have one, but it's $15 and I don't know anything about its quality.

If a mobo has onboard video, would I be be able to use that to boot the OS on a Ryzen build while I wait for my GPU, or is that only for the BIOS?

Ryzen 1600X for sale early.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA24G5HG7964&cm_re=ryzen_5-_-9SIA24G5HG7964-_-Product

>>59794332
I don't even know if you can use the video output to get into the bios. Ryzen definitely doesn't have an integrated GPU. I believe the motherboards have video output for future APUs.

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>>59790927
God bless. Have a rare Pepe

>>59794379
>Ryzen definitely doesn't have an integrated GPU. I believe the motherboards have video output for future APUs.
This is correct. Sorry, igpu wanting dude, but you're SOL. Do you not have some old card sitting around you can use in the meantime? Literally anything pcie will do.

>>59794789
Ah, might have to just get a 480. Was hoping to wait for the 500 series to see if prices went down.

>G.Skill TridentZ seems to be the go to RAM for Ryzen right now.
>Fucking six foot (45mm) high heat spreaders.
Can someone recommend a cooler that's not going to interfere with these things?

>>59794830
Noctua Nh-15s i believe has enough clearance

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>have no idea if my MIR made it to asus or not

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>Bought a wrong parts for my PC (DDR3 instead of DDR4) for $110
>Want to send it back to get refund
>They'll take 15% for "processing fee" excluding shipping

Meanwhile I was able to sell it on ebay for $130

>>59794877
Looks g...
>£70
Oof. A bit rich for my blood, matey.

>>59794963
Cryorig M9a or H7 both respect the 'keep-out zone' so should clear anything on a board that's built to spec. £25 and £45 respectively.

Scythe Mugen 5's asymmetric design will give you more than enough clearance. Under 45 bongbux.

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What's a good CPU+motherboard for a NAS serving 4 people and capable of at least two 5 Gbps connections?

>>59795139
Bear in mind you'll have to send away for AM4 compatible fixings for these and you'll need proof of purchase. Free, but enjoy having your system sitting there unusable until they get around to mailing your kit out if you're going for a Ryzen that doesn't ship with a stock cooler.

Any recommendations for something that does AM4 straight out of the box?

>>59795227
>have to send away for AM4 compatible fixings
kek <-- This one
kek
kek
kek

AMD loses again.

>>59788162
Is there any good gpu that has a decent FP64 performance? Not those 1/32 crap.

>>59788897
Install Gentoo

>>59788162
FX8350, stock cooler (40C under load)
EVGA GTX1060 6GB
ASUS M5 A79
8GB DDR3 @1333 (upgrading to 2133 16gb next week)
1x 1TB WD blue
1x300GB seagate old shit hdd
24" ASUS monitor


runs what i need just fine but shit is the cpu fan loud as fuck

>>59795573
should say i just upgraded from
A-10 6800k
PNY GTX 750 1GB
same ram
FM2-A75MA-E35
same hdds
32"tv 1366x768 max res

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1st time builder. UK. use for playing H1Z1 and rainbow six.

Is there a difference between the £17 Artic Freezer and the £52 Noctua NH-U14S?

Is the Noctua really more premium? Am I shooting myself in the foot by scrimping out on the cooler?

>>59788162
my build for gaming(all new):
>i5-6600k $180
>GamerForce Captain 240 ex
>Msi B150m arctic $75
>16gb ddr4 ballistix white $ 80
>Msi Gtx 1070 aero $375
>standard evga 500w psu $30
>Diypc white case $25
>WD 1tb blue $50
Should i buy an ssd?

>>59795652
paid $75 for the cooler

>>59788897
sell it and build another computer.

>>59795573
Poorfag as fuck
Invest $50 into a noctua cooler which will be quiet as fuck

>>59795640
>Unlocked 7700K and Z270 board
>gtx1060
Poorfag with richag aspirations confirmed.

Looking to upgrade my FX-8350 since I have a bit of spare cash right now.

Would it be better to go for the R7 1700 or R5 1600x?
I use my computer mostly for gaming/programming but I do like to multitask a lot.

>>59793440
It's true. OP is a faggot.

>>59795652
>>59795661
>K psu
>B mobo
Why

>>59795813
R5 1600 looking good but wait for proper benchmarks. Not knowing your usage it's probably fine. Better to spend more money on good memory.

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>>59795652
>6600k
>MSI B150 board
>shit house PSU

>>59795652
>Unlocked i5 with muh meme AIO cooler
>On a fucking B150
>Shitty blower-cooled 1070
Nice b8 m8. Top quality stuff. On the offchance that this is real: Kill yourself desu senpai.

Stupid question here. Does Prime95 normally make temps rise and fall?

The CPU temp is 33C at idle, then it goes up to 50C when I start Prime95. Then it gradually goes up to 73C, then it goes back down to 57C. This repeats every 10 mins or so.

>>59795652
Holy shit. Everything about this build. Literally everything. You don't need an SSD, you need a noose. Here's your (You) mate.

>>59795885
That is a stupid question. Your CPU is probably reaching it's thermal threshold and throttling to reduce temperature. 73c is way too hot for most processors.

>>59789919
It's not super beefy but he'll still be able to manage 60fps at 1080p just fine for most games on med-high settings.

>>59795945
Over 73c*

>>59795885
Yes. It's a stress test. It will stress your cpu by giving it a huge workload and that causes it to heat up.

>>59795946
Mid to High? What games won't run at 1080/60 maxed on that system?

ok guys. entry level setup here. Thoughts?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/F4gwZ8

>>59796048
Real good, I just don't really get what this is intended for. You planning on putting a video card in later?

>>59796076
Yes. Video card at a later date. I already have the WD HDD from a previous computer. I just threw it in there to check compatibility, just to be on the safe side.

>>59796150
All gravy. Test those HDD sectors if it's 5~ years old.

>>59789919
I'm glad I don't have '''''''''friends''''''''' like you.

>>59796048
My thoughts are you could get an SSD in there for the same cost without really sacrificing anything: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XVBbD8

>>59795797

no point upgrading the gpu unless you have a 4k monitor. I take it you can't advise on the best cooler to proceed with?

>>59796176
HDD is less than a year old.
Computer will be used for light gaming and video editing. The editing is never anything professional, just me dicking around for fun. I never do hardcore gaming, but I may add the Video card when I want to play GTAV

>>59796190
I considered adding an SSD, but I don't want to have to reinstall windows.

Should I get the 7700k or wait for the next gen of cpu?

>>59796018
I know it's a stress test. I think the other anon was right, 73C is too high for this CPU, although according to the spec sheet Tcase max is 71C so I wouldn't think that a 73C core temp is "way too hot".

Are i5 CPUs designed to throttle when core temps are that close to Tcase? I would think that logically Tcase would be slightly lower than core temps.

>>59796278
Not really at that temp. Could be the motherboard.

>>59796226
>Thinks just dropping a Windows install in to a completely different system isn't going to cause all kinds of niggling pains in the arse.
>Thinks the hour, tops, spent reinstalling and getting shit back together is worse than living with running everything from a cheapshit mechanical drive.
Oh-fucking-kay then, mate. Your funeral.

>>59796242
What circumstances?

>>59796242
Have an answer about as useful as your question: HURFDURF.

>>59796226
Windows is not really a plug and play operating system mate. Even if you get it working by re-doing the Windows bootloader that's a retarded idea.

>>59796242
you know next gen is going to be 5% increase, so why wait

>>59796333
Gaymen and some other stuff.
I really want an 8 cores cpu. Why are Intel such jews.

>>59796376
Who knows my dude. But get a 1700.

>>59796376
It's a shame there's no 8c/16t CPUs around that perform on par with that 7700K in most uses and murder it in heavily threaded stuff, amirite? OH WAIT...

>>59793743
Anyone?

>>59796391
>>59796405
But /g/ told me the 1700 costs as much and performs worst for muh games.
Can the non x be oc?
Does it have good matx mobos?

>>59793743
Was going to answer you, then saw you replying to your own post like an attention hungry faglord rather than having a modicum of patience. You're on your own, pal.

>>59796431
Yes. 1700 actually gets decent overclocking on stock cooler. X just means it comes with higher clock out of the box. To my knowledge no limits on the current Ryzen CPUs.

>>59796446
That post is almost four hours old and your response is cringe-worthy as fuck honestly.

>>59796463
>Still 'bumping' a question that would take all of 30 seconds to answer on google
>Four hours later.

>>59796446
B8
>>59796497
A lot of questions that are asked here can be answered through Google but people come here for a reason.

>>59796324
>>59796358
Alright, so wipe that drive completely clean, add an SSD, and install windows fresh on the new system would make more sense.
alright. first build so I din't know that. Thanks for the advice.

>>59796519
You can keep the stuff on the mechanical if there're things you want on there. Doesn't have to be reformatted or anything, just don't use it as your boot drive, and feel free to delete all of the system stuff off of there.

>>59796519
SSD meme isn't that important. Definitely better for budget than a spinny spin spinner but if you're trying to save money and you already have the drive, don't worry, especially if you're going to buy a 120GB and just use it for Windows and a few applications.

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sup /g/
Wich one of these most likely to run my corsair vengeance lpx 2x16 at 3200? I know about upcoming bios update, but wich one is a better buy?

>>59796760
Who knows at this point. Gigabyte is the better buy because it doesn't look euphoric.

>>59788162
msi x370 krait gaming + r5 1600

good upgrade from 4670k?

really just hung up on the mobo.

>>59796781
Well yeah but there are reports on taichi running 2x16gb at 3200 already and anus crosshair seems to have best support. Gigabyte looks like a good choice to overclock so even if my ram only goes by 2933 i can get to 3000 or more probably.

>>59796519
>>59796623
updated build:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NRw6d6

There's nothing on that HDD I need to save. Was just hoping I could save the windows installation.

>>59796675
I've heard people rave about how fast SSDs are. My new laptop uses a hybrid drive, which I suppose means a cross between SSD and HDD.

Well, regardless, wouldn't making the SSD the boot drive make everything faster?

And a related question. How would I go about wiping the HDD. googling it now, but insight appreciated

>>59796783
Not really a "good upgrade" unless you're desperate for more CPU performance.

>>59796845
No. It would make booting Windows, copying files and loading application within the SSD faster. Yes your PC will boot in seconds. Your choice if that's worth the extra money for a low end build.

>>59796887
so any programs installed into the windows operating system would boot up faster, right?
And when turning on, it would boot in seconds?

Are RAM sticks specced for different frequencies physically different or are they just artificially set down to run slower for market segmentation? As in is it possible to buy cheaper RAM and then overclocking it yourself like with processors and graphics cards?

>>59796860
i understand. giving this to my brother while i upgrade, since his g3258 is woefully inadequate.

no recs on mobo? deciding between the x370 krait or the asrock x370 killer if it helps.

also, is there any 'sweet spot' for speed when it comes to ram? was looking at 2666-3000mhz sticks.

>>59797126
Could you try that post again?

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sup /g/

I intend to use this pc for gaming & not much else.

Missing from the list is:
>power supply ANTEC TRUEPOWER 650 Ook >RAM CORSAIR CMT16GX3M4X2133C9

I do not intend to overclock my cpu, hence my choice for the i5.

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>>59797126

What type of monitor is currently cheaper in the long run, GSync or Freesync? The price point of the 480 vs 1060 has hit the point of not making much of a difference but I'm thinking of replacing my monitor down the line so that would make a difference. I'm on standard 1080p/60hz but might look at 1440p/144hz for CSGO later.

>>59797166

If you're not overclocking then why are you spending €100 on watercooling? Just get a 212 for €20 or even use the stock.

>>59797166
You chose an overclocking mobo with a non overclocking cpu. Also that mobo is for SkyLake and it requires a bios update in order to work with Kabylake cpus (i5 7500)

>>59797166
>actuele prijs
>subtotaal
fucking dutch

>>59797166
Overclocking doesn't matter. Paying that much for 4 threads is dumb, especially for the sort of gaming performance i'm guessing you want with the 1070.

>>59797182
Do it. CS:GO on 144hz is a dream.

>>59797182
I don't really get what you mean "in the long run", do you mean when you'll have to replace the video card in the future? Freesync monitors are usually significantly cheaper if you can't get a deal and no one can predict what's going to happen 5 years with video cards so not really any worthwhile answer. Talking out of my ass, freesynch will probably have better long term support for future cards.

>>59792760
>editing, recording, streaming

Ryzen 1700 is the best option, as for 1600, no clue yet. Not a shill or anything, but Ryzen destroys in those subjects. Undisputable fact (for now).

Simply put, the law of the CPU land is this:
>ONLY/mainly gaming? Intel
>Editing, recording, streaming? AMD

Ryzen isn't shit on gaming by the way, far from it. It is clearly outmatched by its Intel counterparts, but not to the point that shitposters want you to believe. Look up some benchmarks and see for youself. And then add on the domination from editing, recording, streaming by Ryzen and you'll see that this choice is actually a lot more interesting than you thought.

The main issue with Ryzen is the motherboards. Apparently AMD rushed Mobo makers and their was quite a few reports of bricking when using the BIOS. Not sure if they got their shit together and those are things of the past, but don't be shocked if you have to get it replaced.

what does native means in this qvl list?
http://download.gigabyte.ru/memory/mb_memory_ga-z270x-gaming-k7.pdf
i have the CMK32GX4M2B3200C16, does that mean i can run it at 2133mhz without xmp profile and up to 3200 with it?

>>59797166
>i5 in 2017
>Muh meme AIO cooler on a locked CPU
>Z170 board for a locked Kaby Lake

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>>59797260
>replying to posts from 8 hours ago

>>59797253

I'm talking about like the next year, I want a graphics card right now but might not get a monitor for a year or so.

>>59797197

I did not know it was an overclocking mobo. I chose it because it fitted my RAM which is DDR3 and also because it fits the CPU i chose and also supports the newest CPUS if i wanted to upgrade it later.

Do you know of an alternative I could use that's not an overclocking mobo + supports my DDR3 RAM?

>>59797210

It may not surprise you that I'm not that adept at this shit. Can you elaborate a bit more on your point? You're suggesting that I get an 8 thread CPU instead?

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>>59797323
>relplies didn't really answer anon's post
>someone might also have similar question
>give answer
>person reads answer before posting and give answer the the original post

It's not rocket science anon.

>>59797364
Unless you can guarantee your board has the appropriately upgraded BIOS to accept a Kaby Lake CPU (or you have the means to do this yourself) then you need to stay away from skylake boards. Which means you're SOL in terms of using your old DDR3.

>>59797364
If you're only buying the CPU and motherboard because you already have DDR3 RAM, you're shooting yourself in the foot for one of the cheapest components in your build. That i5 is total shit compared to current processors at a lower price point. Get Ryzen.

>>59797378
>person reads answer before posting and give answer the the original post

Oh so you're just a total newfag then?

What's the best way to erase an SSD drive of all content? Just want to drive to be clean so I can put all my games on it.

>>59797472
>>59797472

Thx for your input.

My assumption was: I thought Ryzens weren't ideal for gaming because they have way more cores than intel, but they have a lower clock speed?
Nowadays most games work with 2-4cores max while the others are idling. So for the future it might be great to have more cores, but for games in the forseeable future this will not be required. So why invest in that many cores? The ryzen is also 150 Eurobux more expensive.

The cores of the i5 i wanted to buy are clocked higher than the Ryzen cores, no?

It's highly possible there are some errors in my reasoning, but that is how I understand it currently.

>>59797364
Would put you together a build if you lived in the civilised world and I could use pcpp for it. I would almost certainly wait for Ryzen 5 at this point. But... If you insist on going i5 then:
>i5 with stock cooler, literally no need for the AIO meme, especially here
>Cheapest B250 4-RAM-slot board that meets your needs. You gain nothing by going H270 or Z270 here. Getting a 100 series skylake board just to use your RAM is asking for a huge ball-ache if you don't know what you're doing.
>Cheapest decent 2400+mhz 2x8GB kit
>That 1070 seems expensive - look at whether you can find another dual-fan board for a better price.
>The 850 evo is muy gud and your case is inoffensive, gg

>>59797633
Ryzen 5 is quad core/eight thread. Still waiting for proper benchmarks but should have more consistent, faster performance than that i5 and will cost about 215 euro on launch.

>>59797685
For the 1600*

>>59796964

Its the opposite I think. Sticks like 3600+ are OCed, so there is binning involved. Highet hz sticks are better binned OCed sticks, (as far as I know). You can try to OC lower sticks but of they did oc well they would have been sold as higher freq RAM anyway.

I found a single ram stick 16 gb being cheaper than 2 8 sticks here locally. Should I go for it even though no dual channel? I only play games

>>59797633
The original post said he wanted to do recording, editing, streaming, and gaming. Ryzen 1700 (he said 1600 was his interest by the way, not out yet so no one even knows it's potential, which is why I use 1700) is what he should be getting. If you only want to play video games only, by all means get Intel, but if you want to do those other things at a MUCH better performance and play video games at somewhat less performance less than an Intel, Ryzen wins hands down.

>>59797705
YMMV on this one. I've had success running sticks a fair bit higher than they were officially clocked in the past. Had some '2400mhz' G.Skill stuff running at 2800mhz for ages now without a hitch.

Don't count on it if you've got a certain performance target in mind but it's worth pushing things a bit and seeing what happens.

>>59797685

OK

>>59797665

Say I follow your advice and buy some DDR4 RAM (16GB preferably), which (kabylake) motherboard could you recommend? (I like ASUS personally)

>>59797777

I don't recall saying i wanted to record/stream/etc.

I just want to do gaming + watch movies. So for those needs, you agree that the i5 is a decent CPU?

Is 8GB of RAM low end now or are games just unoptimized pieces of shit? I've noticed many new releases are using 100% of my RAM and start stuttering like crazy.

>>59797744
Depends on the workload. Assuming you're using the system PURELY for gaming then you're not likely to see a real-world difference between single and dual channel on Intel or previous gen AMD stuff - I don't know if this holds true for Ryzen. The big exception here would be if you were using an igpu but I'm assuming you're not because muh gaming.

That said, I'd still generally go dual channel unless I was getting the single stick for a song. If the budget's so tight that it's going to make a difference I might be inclined to go for an 8GB stick, put the money in to improving something elsewhere, and add a second stick at a later date.

>>59790222
An RX470 4GB would be fine.

Wait for RX500 and get an 8GB of it or the RX480 if yo want to spend more.

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>>59788162
well, i did it.

Can anyone find reviews on this version of the MSI 1060? It's a single fan which I'm guessing is the same as their regular version but just in smaller form? It's currently the cheapest 1060 6gb I can find in Europe.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/msi-geforce-gtx-1060-gt-oc-single-fan-6144mb-gddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-33c-ms.html

>>59798260

What are you doing with 24gb of RAM?

>>59798313
the 8gb is for my brothers i3-6100 build.

>>59798260
>well, i did it.
In the process of planning a Ryzen build here. Is that RAM confirmed to be the holy grail single rank samsung b-die stuff?

>>59798328
doubtful. either skhynix or crucial if my research is correct.

>>59798214
If I got the 16gb stick and then added a 4gb stick, would dual channel work in this case?

I need to upgrade both my GPU and CPU

CPU is i7 2600K and GPU is GTX 580

mobo is socket 1155

what are the hottest meme components these days? Don't wanna go for the most expensive things, just the best bang for the buck

>>59798295
Don't know about that one, but their ITX form factor 1070 reviewed very well across the board, and matched most of the the full size cards in terms of performance/temps/noise. Just wasn't much overhead to push the clocks. Was considering it when I was looking at building an ITX system but since ITX boards for Ryzen are NEVER FUCKING COMING JESUS CHRIST WOULD YOU HURRY UP then I resigned myself to a mATX build and looked elsewhere.

>>59791956
>rx 550
>For what purpose?
Idk. Fury X performance at 1080p for less money?

>>59798537

Cool. I'm not that bothered about the form factor, I have a full tower. It's just tempting since it's a pretty good price.

>>59792760
If you do video editing and encoding, you should get the 1700.

The 1600 CPU encoding might look better than the 7700k dedicated encoder, but you're going to get a much bigger performance hit with it compared to the 1700.

It sounds like you should be getting a cheaper GPU.
You're spending so much for a 1060 6GB when you're not going to be recording at 100+fps in overwatch so why do you need over 60-90fps in games?
You should be locking games to a reasonable FPS for that game when recording unless you're a pro gamer that needs 144+ fps in R6 Siege, which the 1060 isn't going to handle either.

>>59798448
budget is 500€ btw

>>59798570
How attached are you to going nvidia?

If money's tight I'd look very seriously at the RX480. General consensus around here is that they're closely tied enough to go for whichever you can get cheaper. As a britbong I know an rx480 can be had for less than that £209, a LOT less if you go 4GB and for 1080p that's no real handicap.

>>59795405
What is decent FP64?

For Vega it should be exactly half the FP32. So 6.25TFLOPS.

>>59795652
>>59797166
please don't waste people's time with bait when they're trying to help people with builds.

>>59796814
Does the Gigabyte not have an external clock generator?
Anyway it seems like Asus has gotten their BIOS more fixed up. People have been reporting 3200 on it recently. (People were getting 3200 on launch with the ASRock taichi)

>>59796845
Build looks good, but I'd just spend the $40 more for a 525GB SSD instead of the 120gb+1tb ssd and hdd.
And I'd get a smaller mATX case that puts the PSU up top but flipped like the Silverstone TJ08 or the PSU up front. You have a fuckton of drive bays that you're never going to use with that configuration.

>>59797182
What are you asking? GSync costs more money.
They do the same thing.
More monitors support Freesync because it's free.
Freesync2 is backwards compatible with Freesync.

>>59797623
Repeating overwriting every part of it at random.
But even then there is probably a way to recover it.

What 1070/1080 should I absolutely avoid?

>>59798908
All of them until Vega drops desu senpai. :3c

>>59798935
I don't care about AMD baka desu senpai and 1070s are going down to like 320

Any consensus on which mATX B350 board is actually worth buying at this point?

>>59798201
Lots of games are approaching 8GB usage, many in the 6GB range, while you have other software on your PC using up RAM unless you manage to close everything out.
8GB is enough. 16GB is the max most should consider unless they know they use more.

>>59798325
>the 8gb is for my brothers i3-6100 build.
I'm sorry your brother is retarded

>>59798328
Apparently Geil is pretty good, and was on sale the other day. Just check ram capat list for the mobo you're getting.

>>59798448
>i7-2600k
What's wrong with it? You can just overclock to like 4.5ghz to get better performance than a 5ghz 7600k on average.
Just upgrade your GPU to an RX470 or wait for the RX500 series and get an RX480 or RX580 then.

If you really must upgrade CPU, idk, 1600 or 1600X?
It sounds like you'd be better off using your budget to get a 480+GB SSD instead.

>>59798570
Are you talking about that small 1070 that keeps going on sale around $325? Even then I think that's too much money for a 1070.
Assuming RX580 custom OC models that are 1450-1500mhz are in the $250 range, you're talking about 50% more money for not a big performance increase.

Either wait and get an RX580 if you think the RX480 isn't good enough, or wait for the 1070 refresh for 1070 prices to drop and see if the new models are more worth the money on Nvidia's end as well.

>>59798908
ASUS because their support is awful.
EVGA if you want something that performs better than reference PCB, unless you want them for their good warranty and step-up program.
>>59798972
1070 still isn't worth it at $320, as stated above.

>>59798996
ASRock's only one out, MSI Mortar, Gigabyte Gaming 3, and ASUS Prime are all good.
Pretty much only need to avoid the MSI Gaming, MSI Tomahawk, and the Gigabyte DH3 (both which seem like they were supposed to be A320 chipsets)

>>59798972
General advice is grab a dual-fan, non-reference design with decent support. Which manufacturers offer 'decent support' is going to depend on where you are and, frankly, who you ask.

>>59799080
Fan diameter matters.
Single 120mm fan is better than 2 80mm.
2 92mm is okay.

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I won a $3k PC from AMD, any idea what the parts are? they said it may take up to 60 days to receive it, by then the RX 500 series and even Vega (rumored May) will be out.

They said I won a computer set, I'm not sure if that means monitor, keyboard, mouse, etc. included with it, I know the CPU is going to be the 1800x since it's their highest model and makes sense for a $3k build

Can anybody guess what parts? I'm highly skeptical

>>59799064
>ASRock's only one out, MSI Mortar
Thank you, that helps. I'd about narrowed it down to one of these after trawling through forums and looking at other people's experiences, figuring out who was having genuine problems and who didn't know their arse from a hole in the ground, etc.

>>59799064
would an i7 2600K be able to handle a 1070 just fine?

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>>59799140
Yeah
I'm probably getting the MSI mortar myself for the better audio.

Or I might just get a sound card and get the ASRock or Gaming 3. Or Prime. Fuck.

I still haven't decided on a case...
I like this one, but the airflow isn't great. Just 2 120mm fan bottom intake, 1 120mm outtake.

I also bought a M12II PSU to put in a build with old parts to sell...
but now I'm thinking maybe I'll get a new SFX PSU for myself.

>>59799236
Yes, a 2600k overclocked to 4-4.5ghz should not drop below like 90fps except on games that are just horribly optimized and known for barely running over 60fps like Civilization VI.

A 2600k is still better than the 7600k. 2600k had hyperthreading, and 7600k does not.

>>59799064
>I'm sorry your brother is retarded
kek. it was cheap, and all he plays is csgo anyway

>>59799271
Oh, if it was that sale for $88 earlier, that's alright.
Otherwise a G4560 is 95% the same for only $60.

>>59799064
>EVGA if you want something that performs better than reference PCB, unless you want them for their good warranty and step-up program.
Did they ever fix needing fucking thermal pads on their cards? Everyone says they have great performance and support but there's no point if the card is BLAZING HOTTT

>>59799064
>1070 still isn't worth it at $320, as stated above.
I heard the 580 isn't going to be that much of a bigger difference to the 480 though. I'd like to get a 1070 or 1080 if I can find it low enough and upgrade to 1440p.

>>59799361
this was back in december. got it for $90 iirc. the ram i got back then was pretty shitty, so decided to upgrade.

>>59795885
Figured out my problem. Prime95 causes temps to cycle depending on FFT size. Blend mode causes temps to rise and fall at regular intervals. Small FFT mode causes constant high temps.

Who is the best mobo manufacturer?

Is there such a thing as a monitor that doesn't suck? I thought the LG UltraFines that Apple released came close, but they don't work on PCs, and no other manufacturer I know is making a comparable high-ppi display.

>>59799729
They're all the same. Seriously, I have yet to see any motherboard maker this generation have any more problems than the others. ASRock, ASUS, Biostar, ECS, EVGA, Gigabyte, MSI, and Supermicro have been rather above average with their reliability. It's their BIOS and features that sets them apart.

>>59799935
What about Dell

>>59799438
>I heard the 580 isn't going to be that much of a bigger difference to the 480 though
It's a significant upgrade for presumably the same money.
The RX480 is already even on average with games with the 1060, and beats it by almost 10% on average in DX12/Vulkan 1440p.
Now it's going to be 6-15% ahead of the 1060, depending on the test case, instead

I don't know why that wouldn't be worth waiting 2 weeks for. It's a free performance upgrade if you wait.
Also, the XFR GTR RX480 might go on sale finally, which is a super good card but currently hard to justify its price.

>>59799438
A pack of thermal pads is like $7 and

>>59799729
Overall? ASRock. You can't go wrong with them. They pretty much don't make a bad board.
Or do you make who makes the actual best and most expensive boards?

>>59799935
The expensive Dell Ultrasharps and some others are good.

>>59800000
>>59800000
>>59800000
>>59800000
>>59800000
sick get brah
dell sucks

>>59799935
>>59800000
To be honest, though, even Dell doesn't match up in terms of pixel density. The LG displays are 4K at 21" and 5K at 27".

>>59800014
>I don't know why that wouldn't be worth waiting 2 weeks for. It's a free performance upgrade if you wait.
I already have a 480.

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>>59800134
>meme OS
>meme CPU
>meme GPU

0/10

>>59800129
I didn't see that you already had an RX480. I'm confused. I thought this was in regards to someone considering a 1060.

1070 isn't enough of an upgrade to justify its cost. I'd wait for the 1070 and 1080 refreshes and Vega to drive costs down or to get something that's better for the same money.

>>59800134
Looks good. How'd you snag the cheap G4620?

>>59800215
Apologies. I bought the 480 several months ago but recently came into a little money and was hoping to go to 1440p for a 1070.

Also I've had issues with the 480 the entire time so it's been a bit of a thorn in my side. Figured going NVIDIA might make my luck better.

Need some help with fan positioning. So currently I have an exhaust fan at the back, an intake fan at the front, and a exhaust fan at the bottom of my PSU. But the issue I'm having is that I can only position my CPU intake fan such that it's right in front of the exhaust fan at the back. Would I be better served by just making my fans at the back of the case be intake while making the fan at the front an exhaust and then adding another exhaust fan at the top?

>>59800209
My meme performance is pretty great too
>>59800215
G4620 and motherboard were $140 in combo on ebay. Took me a good week of constantly searching to find this deal.

So when I build my PC, do I install my GPU before turning the system on for the first time, or should i plug my monitor into the mobo and then install windows and then turn it off after and put the GPU in and plug my monitor into the GPU itself?

>>59800295
Plug everything in.

>>59800318
So just go all at once and plug the monitor into the card itself from the start?

>>59800295
Put in CPU/cooler and RAM first, and boot to BIOS to make sure everything runs.

>>59800338
Put all of the computing partaroos together all at once and toggle the power to the | position.

>>59800349
If you want to make sure everything runs, plug everything in. If it all the hardware works then there sure be no problem. There's no reason to boot to bios and play footies with your components.

Does anyone have a quick guide or infographic on how to fine tune windows 10? I heard some guys talking in an earlier thread about turning off certain features and making it all nice and functional. I've only used Win 10 on school computers and I use windows 7 now but I'm upgrading for my new rig.

And what's the difference between the Home and Pro versions? Is it worth the extra $40 for the pro version if you just want to play games and browse the internet?

>>59800428
Are you going to purchase Windows?

>>59800258
The 1440p performance of the RX480 and 1070 are going to be even more similar...
GCN scales better with resolution than any Nvidia arch.
Just see how much you can reasonably overclock the RX480 and it should do fine at 1440p.

But what issues are you having? Did you RMA it?

>>59800428
LTSB.

>>59798788

If my interest was literally just gaming I'd have bought a 480 4gb for about £160 months ago and be done with it. My problem is that I'm a professional editor so I would value going NVIDIA to have the CUDA help in the Adobe suite. I know AMD works perfectly fine but the support is slightly better for NVIDIA.

>>59799064
>Are you talking about that small 1070 that keeps going on sale around $325?

No it's a 1060. It's $250 but considering Europe has import duties and the pound has been destroyed recently it's a pretty good price. For comparison the small 1070 you're talking about is about $490 here.

I get Windows 10 Education free through my university.

That version isn't fucked too much, is it? Looks bretty good :PP on the Wikipedia comparison charts.

>>59799114

Surely there's a spec sheet in the competition? Check the terms & conditions, it should have it listed there.

>>59798874
>Build looks good, but I'd just spend the $40 more for a 525GB SSD instead of the 120gb+1tb ssd and hdd.
>And I'd get a smaller mATX case that puts the PSU up top but flipped like the Silverstone TJ08 or the PSU up front. You have a fuckton of drive bays that you're never going to use with that configuration.
I realize this. I plan to eventually reuse the case for a build to replace this setup in the future, which WILL use water cooling (taking advantage of the spot up top for one). You can remove a lot of the bays. I'm not thinking about right now, but future builds as well. I like the build so far, even with the 120gb SSD.

>>59800502
Yeah, I pirated this version of windows 7 and I want to go legit now that i can afford it.

>>59800428
Anther cuck nearly falls in to the ol' 'paying full price for Windows' trap, lads
https://www.kinguin.net/category/19429/windows-10-professional-oem-key/

Or just do the KMS hack and get it for free.

>>59800562

Just get a key for Windows 10, there's no need to pay the full retail price. Even if you want to purchase it to be legit that's fine but no one actually pays full retail for Windows.

>>59800519
>But what issues are you having?
Driver crashes both on desktop and in games. I think somebody else said they had the same issue recently. Small crashes on desktop where the screen will black out for 2-4 seconds then resume, and crashing in game.

I've also gotten BSOD's with a VIDEO_TRD message when I was fiddling with drivers and rolling back to test if older ones worked. I haven't exhausted EVERY driver, but it seems like anything from 16.12 up to the latest 17.4 give me issues.

I'm on W10 LTSB (Pirated)
i5-6600k
ASUS Z170-AR
RX 480 8GB

Did a Memtest already, too.

>Did you RMA it?
Yeah, and they gave me back the same S/N card so I assume nothing was physically wrong with it. Plugged it back in and got the same issues.


I do have enough cash to reasonably get a 1080 too, but I figured I'd go for a 1070 and then add more RAM to my system.

>>59800562
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/accessibility/windows10upgrade

>>59799114
I bet it'll include a monitor and keyboard and stuff, though that will count as part of the $3k. I mean, imagine if some normie won and just got the tower, he/she would be pissed and cause a big controversy over it.

Hopefully it's their latest and greatest shit, I mean this is essentially free publicity so it makes sense that they would try and give you the best they can, and then have you go online and tell everyone how great AMD and their products are.

$280 6700k vs $310 7700k

wh-which one /g/?

>>59789512
if you want a hard drive for performance get a WD black. if you want reliability get the hitachi. but if you really care about reliability you would buy two of the same drive and then mirror them anyway.

>>59800623
Want Windows 7? 6700k.
Want BLEEDING EDGE GAYMEN and other shit like Netflix at 4K? 7700k.

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>>59800589
>>59800592
>>59800601
haha, yeah boy I'm sure glad I checked here first and didn't but it...

jeeze, how dumb would it be if I just paid full price...

haha...

>>59800640
well technically it was $270 for the 6700k.

but m-muh state tax.

I think I'll go with the 6700k, it's only 6% less than the 7700k. D-Do you think it'll work with a Z270 board?

>>59800014
I meant who is the most reliable. I googled this, came up with gigabyte. Went on amazon, b250 has like 4 power phases, no heatsinks.
I thought you had to have many phases to deliver stable current to the course. And heatsinks not to melt the mosfets. This looks poor to me

>>59800673
Can't you flash the Z270 boards to work with Skylake? I think you need a CPU to boot them in the first place, though.

>>59800623
Are you going to be doing anything other than playing games? If no just get a Pentium.

>>59800673

Yeah the 6700 is Skylake which the z270 supports no problem. Might be overkill unless you're overclocking a lot.

>>59800697

Shouldn't need to flash the bios. I needed to flash my Z170 for Kaby Lake but Skylake is supported as standard on both.

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>>59800697
I thought that was only if you were using Kabylake on a Z170.

>>59800700
I use Photoshoppu

>>59800707
Th-Thanks

>>59800725
Oh, I had it the other way around.
I shoulda bought a Z270 for my Skylake then.

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current setup
>gigabyte z97p-d3
>i7-4790 @3.6ghz
>gtx 770 2gb
>16gb ddr3 ram
>thermaltake urban (s71?)

should i upgrade some of these components, or get a new rig and keep this as a backup/streaming pc?

my budget is up to 2000€ (without peripherals). i'd mainly use it for gaming and multimedia with some 2d design work mixed in. i'm in europe (serbia) if that makes any difference.

any suggestions on what to get? i'm a little out of the loop when it comes to hardware.

W2c cheap HDDs?
Also any cheap used 27" monitor?

>>59800764
For what it's worth you're not missing out on anything much, and since 1151's on its way out anyway you'll have to change boards next time around regardless.

Looks like the ASUS Prime B350 Plus is getting quick updates. I'll probably wait until 0605 is no longer in beta, currently on 0513...

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>>59800812

>>59800779
just a little side note: i would like the ability to plug in as many monitors as possible into this machine (4-5), and an internal capture card... maybe dedicated soundcard too? i'm not entirely clear on whether or not i'll need one with some of the other gear i'm getting (Behringer X1832 USB mixer and Behringer Multicom Pro-XL MDX4600 4-Ch Compressor)

>>59800783
>W2c cheap HDDs?
Amazon has 1Tb Western Digital blue HDDs for like $50.

>>59800826
Have you ever used that many monitors before? I could see someone using 2 or maybe 3 monitors, but 4-5? That's a bit crazy.

http://www.strawpoll.me/12705083

>>59800865
Just go for the one that has a decent build/features and as few bugs as possible.

>280 front rad
>good airflow
>sound dampening
>around 100$
is there any other option than the phanteks p400s ?

>>59800843
i've been using 3 for a while now, and now i'm getting another (my first 144hz screen, for gaming)... and a cintiq for drawing, which is kind of like another monitor. i'll probably get rid of something, but it would be nice to have the option to keep them all if i find a way to make it work.

I'm looking for a replacement laptop processor, and can't seem to find it on amazon, ebay, or newegg.

Where are some good places to find laptop processors?

>>59800925
https://www.aliexpress.com/

>>59800945
>https://www.aliexpress.com/
Any general advice for buying from here? What to look for in sellers?

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>tfw samsung b revision g.skill 16gb 3600 cl16 for $149
>running at 3733 cl14

>>59800980
Most of the sellers are big recycling companies that get their shit from western businesses. You'll get a legitimate product about 99% of the time. It might be weird but I've have more luck with chink sellers than I've had with Ebay. Just make sure to read the listing very carefully that you're getting exactly what you need.

what are peoples favorite ITX or mATX case here?

Debating on going down from ATX. I like fractal's stuff, but the design is the same on all their stuff. I've been staring at my current one for 6-7 years now so looking for change of scenery

>>59801089
Here you go mate. You're welcome.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/lian-li-pc-y6b-odyssey-yacht-mini-itx-case-black-ca-74h-ll.html

>>59801051
Huh. Well I guess I'm going to give it a try then. Here's to hoping it all goes well. Thanks senpai.

noob question, but do you have to plug your monitor into the GPU to use it for games and stuff? If you just plug it into the mobo will games still utilize the GPU or does that bypass it or something?

>>59788162
>Simple design is simple but not simple
Is that an actual ad?

>>59801267

Yes it has to be plugged directly into the GPU. If you run any cable from the motherboard it will be using the integrated graphics on your CPU.

>>59801174

If I ever win enough money to say "fuck it" I'll absolutely be using that case. I love how terrible it is.

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>>59789495
Wouldn't happen to be selling that puppy refurbished would you? Also what model maybe?

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>>59800000

>>59801392
Make sure to get every combination of lighting LEDs on as many parts as possible to make it shine a rainbow cacophony of colors and then shitpost it all over /v/ as the epitome of PC gaming.

>>59788162
>Pentium G4560

sorry but its going for $80 in the US where its in stock, which is currently amazon

the actual $50 price tag is currently a facade by SuperBiz which hasnt had it in stock for over a month but pcpartpicker keeps pulling its pricing data

even if you wait a few weeks for B&H (their restock eta) or others to get it in stock they're all within $10 of the G4600 which is faster overall and might as well just get that

SuperBiz has no ETA listed and hasnt for over a month

>>59801435
Not to be a dick but trying to arrange a purchase on 4chan is retarded. I'm going to try to charge you the same prices they're going for on ebay anyway. I do actually have to sell the 760 and 1060 and my old ram but yeah

How often do you guys pull off your CPU cooler and reapply thermal paste?

>>59801633
Never, because I don't fall for dumb memes.

>>59801633
I haven't yet so far but it should be good for at LEAST 1 year unless doing heavy overclocking.

>>59793717

Buy Palit.

Also where do you live?

>>59801633
this >>59801674
also, depends on the quality of the thermal paste
quality stuff like the Arctic MK-4 should last longer than some cheapskate birdshit paste

>>59801633
You could be a man and use your hand, and reapply it every time you fap for free thermal paste.

best mid tower with front rad support ?

How good is G4560 + 1060?

>>59801776
not very
>dual core
>any year after 2012

>>59801795
What happened to
>2017
>Using more than 2 cores

>>59801776
>only 2 cores

Sorry, I'm not a homosexual.

>>59801763
Evolv ATX

>>59801776
Only gaymes? Good
Anything more? Less than average

>>59801633

Every tuesday

>Pentium is a meme

https://novabench.com/view/1226854

>>59801763
Fractal Define <insert your preference here>. Take your pick, they're all great.

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better than a scorpio for the same price :^)

If I overclocked a g4560 or i3 6100 with a rx 470, would it prevent bottlenecking?

>>59800531
>No it's a 1060. It's $250 but considering Europe has import duties and the pound has been destroyed recently it's a pretty good price
You mean it's 250 euros.
You can get an RX470 for 170 euros.

This myth about the 1060 being the same as the RX480 in the UK and Europe isn't true except in maybe like the Ukraine and countries that don't actually use the euro.
You're just doing a shitty job looking, it seems to me, as people post cheap pound/euro RX470s and RX480s in here all the time.

>>59801976
Give link please

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FUCK, HELP ME MAKE UP MY MIND!

G4560 + 1060

OR

i5 + 1080

OR

Ryzen 5 + RX480

>>59802009
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sGHBJV

>>59802013
Ryzen 5 + RX480 hands down.

>>59800556
You can fit water cooling in the Silverstone TJ08, PS07, Jonsbo VR2, and other 20liter-ish cases fine.
In the case of those Silverstone ones, you just need to use the top optical bays for HDDs and SSDs and put the reservoir and pump where the drive bays are, assuming your GPU isn't bigger than 240mm (which most of them aren't now days)
In the case of the VR2, you just have to use an SFX short PSU and then you have lots of room beneath it for water cooling shit.

Bottom mount PSUs do make more sense for water cooling, as you have all that base in the bottom middle and bottom front in front of it, but that is still usually not optimal.

>>59800595
Card instability will cause driver crashes.
>they gave me back the same S/N card so I assume nothing was physically wrong with it
They probably just assumed it works since they plugged it in and it booted with video. You're just getting a shitty warranty service. Press them about it more.
Which manufacturer is it, anyway?

>>59800623
$280 is good for a 6700k. Plus the savings you'd spend on delidding. Go for it.

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>>59802013
>i5 + 1080

What's a good, mature mouse with a right click, left click, mouse wheel (and mouse wheel button), and a couple of extra buttons?

All this shit lights up in 1 million different colors, has a bunch of edges on it, or has a gigantic razer logo slapped on it.

>>59802067
>Which manufacturer is it, anyway?
It's an MSI. I'm presuming it's a driver issue, since it was fine a few months ago, unless some component failed within that timeframe.

I was going to badger them though since I don't want to wait another 2 weeks for it to reach CA and then come back to me.

>>59800685
The Gigabyte Gaming 3 only has 4 phase VRMs?
Are you sure?
Number of phases doesn't tell the whole story, too, even if true. Reviews for it seem good.

>>59800779
CPU is fine, you probably know this already. Though you could OC it to at least 4ghz.
Your GPU is garbage, though. Even an RX470 4gb would be a big upgrade.

>>59800900
There are lots of options.
Literally google "front 280 rad cases". Check image results if you want something besides forum posts.
There are some nice options with 280mm side radiators, too. I like those if you aren't looking for side glass/window.
Or go 200mm instead of being a pussy.

>>59802013
WHAT ARE YOU USING YOUR PC FOR?

Games: Pentium + AMD graphics
Anything more: Ryzen5/i5 + AMD graphics
Diminishing returns: Ryzen7/i7 + Nvidia

>>59801985
Can't overclock these processors. They are locked.

Also, neither of them should bottleneck the RX 470, anyway.

>>59802083
http://www.ebay.com/itm/301097663281

>>59802027
Needed better motherboard
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RWwh8K

>>59802140
I'M USING IT FOR GAYMEN

>>59801776
Overpriced when you'll be CPU bottlenecked in most cases.

You're better off getting a better CPU like a Ryzen5 with a cheaper GPU like the RX470.

>>59801976
That's going to be CPU bottlenecked but.. yeah I guess.

>>59802140
This is accurate except an i5 is a waste of money.

>>59802108
Yeah,

>>59802083
Yeah idk why they're fucking you around. They should send you a new card and refurbish yours.

>>59802083
Anything steel series. Just don't get the Rival with those stupid rubber side pads that wear down.

>>59802141
Those will bottleneck in GTAV, plenty of multiplayer games, and so on.

>>59802228
>Those will bottleneck in GTAV, plenty of multiplayer games, and so on.
how much performance do you expect from that hardware in GTA V anyway

>>59788162
Ok guys I'm from Chile and I'm thinkig into buy this computer and modify it
https://www.pcfactory.cl/producto/21367-LIQ.-.ONE-149i.Intel.Core.i7-4790..8GB..2TB..DVDRW
Which cost about 518 dollars and add and change some hardware...
or
directly buy this one
https://www.pcfactory.cl/producto/21362-LIQ.-.GAMER-33i.Intel.Core.i7-4790K..Geforce.GTX970..16GB..SSD120GB..2TB..DVDRW
Which cost 1070 dollars.

What do you suggest, purchase the pc ready or think in the upgradeable one?

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>>59802326
I'm just saying you'll drop under 30fps in plenty of games, let alone 60.
Spend a little more, though, and Ryzen5+R9 fury is really good for 1440p. Or 4k if 30fps is good enough.

also...
>>59800900
>needing a big hur dur case for water cooling.

>>59789190
I feel like this is me. Dont even know why I buy discrete cards anymore.

>>59802371
just buy the components individually man, it will always be cheaper to do that. Even if you can only buy 1 part a month, it'll end up being a way better PC for way less money than something pre-built.

>>59802371
>What do you suggest, purchase the pc ready or think in the upgradeable one?
Neither. Build your own and get the parts you actually want, famalam.

>>59802371
none of those look spicy enough for Chile

Anyone have any recommendations for an internal bluray reader/writer?

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Hey guys, to starts thanks for looking/help. Prices in Canadabucks.

Pic related is my workstation/gaymen build.
Justifications:
Got the Corsair because I want to OC the 1700 and have it running for a bit while compiling/encoding/training.
AsRock Taichi for that sweet PState OCing, solid BIOS options, good power delivery, plenty I/O, not to gaymy look. Might pick it up from the US, after conversion and shipping I'd being saving $30, IF it doesn't get checked at the border.
SSD is whatever, good price per/G here, decent size, I have 2 more SSDs from old PC.
Cheapest RX480 8G. Placeholder until Vega. Vega looks very good for deep learning shit I'm getting into.
RAM is the cheapest 14CAS 3200. I would ideally want 32G but current prices are extortion. Would rather get this ram for dual use now and pick up a couple 16G ECC RAM sticks later on.
I don't know much about cases but I hear good things about the Phanteks P400S. Was also thinking about the NZXT S340 Elite. Not sure I like the Fractal stuff.
I don't know anything about power supplies other than SeaSonic and EVGA make decent ones. I know its enough, but I'm leaning to a 650+, I might want to run two Vegas for muh deep learning.

The final thing is a new monitor. I really want an IPS higher hz monitor. Have a couple at school and they are fucking nice to work on. I would also like freesync for games. There is no 1080p monitor that has those specs unfortunately, so I just chose the Asus MG279Q. I know Nixeus has a new monitor coming out with the same specs as the Asus, I'm hoping its cheaper, so I'd wait for that.

So yeah thanks again for looking. If you got some recommendations I'd like the hear them.

>>59802689
Get a Noctua NH-D15, I don't know where you're buying your stuff but it's cheaper then a h115i, and probably better. Rest looks fine to me.

>>59802067
>you just need to use the top optical bays for HDDs and SSDs and put the reservoir and pump where the drive bays are,
Not happening. Reusing the optical drive from previous computer and adding in an SD card reader in the second slot. There was a reason I went with a case with 2 5.25" drive bays

>>59802751
>Physical media
>2017
What the fuck are you doing that involves using SD cards so often you want to defile your case with some 5.25" sack of shit? Don't even get me started on still using optical media...

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>>59802830
>not using physical media in [current year]
>not having a optical drive

>>59789512
Hitachi all the way.

>>59802830
>not having an optical drive for retro gaming

>>59802830
>>59802918
aside from retro gaming, I have a hobby of video editing. mainly for shits and giggles, but an SD card reader and an optical drive work wonders.

>128GB of DDR3 1666MHz for 144 dollars
holy shit time to dive

>>59803030
There is literally no point in having over 32 gigs of RAM and there never will be in your lifetime.

>>59803179
>literally
literally kill yourself my man

>>59803222
you mean unironically?

>>59803179
>There is literally no point in having over 32 gigs of RAM and there never will be in your lifetime.
That is unless you have a server or a workstation, which pretty much means nobody on /g/.