/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

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>>59775641
First

Any owners of x230's around to help me out?

>>59775782
If you state your proble,

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>>59775641
4th for GOAT ThinkPad

>>59775789
I need someone with a x230's to download sharpkeys and screen shot what you get in there by default. I accidentally removed the ? nd / key that is near the space bar

>>59775824
Actually, I just realized that if my keyboard is not English standard even that might not work for me... I have a portuguese keyboard, with "ç" and stuffs

ThinkPad Retro when?

I'm looking for a laptop to replave my sandy bridge laptop. Mainly looking to get a smaller size/weight to take with me everyday to college.
Currently looking at 3 options
1 - second hand x230. Afraid the screen will be too small to be comfortable, but size is GOAT. Perfomance is not that much of an improvement, and battery might be shit. About 300€
2 - Get a Clevo from a local retailer. 14", 1080p, recent hardware. Build quality will be much worse than thinkpad, but it'll be enough i'd say. No clue about battery. About 640€
3 - Buy a new T470. Would have to buy from lenovo directly, would be about 1200€.

leaning towards 2, seems the best compromise of price, new hardware, and decent specs

>>59776301
I got the x230 for college and it's freaking awesome, got a great deal on it. The small screen was never a problem for me.

>>59776015
When everyone in /tpg/ stops buying new thinkpads and start protesting against lel-no-vo.

>>59776373
I generally use and IDE, or a text editor with 2 tabs/1Tab + Docs, that's why I'm afraid

>>59776402
well, you won't be able to open all of that at once, but it can handle that easy. before i got myself a nice tab manager i was running an ide, discord, spotify, and like 20 or 30 tabs at once, and that is with 4gb ram...

>>59776676
i meant you won't be able to have all of those on the screen at once*

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>tfw bought a x200 and librebooted it to replace my old laptop
>works fine
>be poor
>need money for school
>realize that I have all the equipment to libreboot more and sell them

I just bid on two more x200's. Hope I'm not being stupid here.

>>59776402
I've gotten by for a fair while with the same resolution doing similar shit. i3 helps a lot. You can pick up old monitors for next to nothing anyway so that'll help for productivity at home.

>>59776708
If you get an 'ugly' X200's, you could always sell the motherboard as libreboot ready.

>>59776301
Be sure to see if you could get a student discount.
That makes MBPs popular in college.

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I need advice on which thinkpad is a better option.
Both are a T460p but the problem is the next:
One comes with a i5 6440HQ and in this option I can upgrade it to 8gb RAM crucial and a 275GB crucial.

The last option is with a i7 6820HQ and a 940mx 2GB. but I can't upgrade it to 8gb ram and a SSD because I don't have the money. I have time to the next week. If I choose the i7 one, I would have to upgrade it in my country and it will be very expensive.

Any advice would be of much help

PD:Sorry for my english

T460 or T460s?

>>59777135
cant you get the i7 one and upgrade it in like three months?


>>59777374
T460s

>>59777502

maybe, I really don't know because, now I don't have any money income and in my country shits like RAM and especially SSD are fucking expensive.

I tought i will get for the i5 one.

I need it for CAD and photoshop

Just bought one of these x220s, how'd I do?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-X220-12-5-034-Laptop-Core-i5-2540M-8GB-128GB-SSD-Windows-10-ProBacklit-WIFI-/222269929117?rsta=en_US(en_US)&cnac=US&mail=sys&e=op&unp_tpcid=email-receipt-auction-payment&ppid=PPX000608&calf=c052a20e940da&calc=c052a20e940da&pgrp=main:email&unptid=4d8c9f0a-1b50-11e7-a9af-8cdcd4b6ee30&mchn=em&t=&s=ci&page=main:email&cal=c052a20e940da&cust=

>>59777000
>If you get an 'ugly' X200's

The guy on ebay has pretty good pictures. I think they look ok.

If worse come to worst, the one I already have is fairly pristine. I can live with a beater.

Please tell me you all give the machines a thorough clean upon receiving it.

>>59778131
I buy all parts new with refurbished motherboard and assemble the machine myself.

Hello. I've been a Thinkpad owner/ user for two years now, but I only just realized the extent of a hardware feature, I guess.

The mute mutton on this fucking thing, I always thought it was unreliable. It just occurred to me to ask about it in /tpg/ though, so I checked to make sure it wasn't working. Turns out it works, but it only mutes the hardware speakers, and changing volume with the keys unmutes it.

So until now I just thought the mute key never worked, or worked randomly. Turns out as long as I don't adjust the volume with the laptop volume keys, I could unplug my headphones with porn playing at max volume and no noise would play, provided it's hardware muted. Pretty neat m8s...

>>59778136

Isn't that incredibly expensive, especially for older machines with less common parts? Don't get me wrong, I'd do it if I had the cash with a couple of every T4/W5/X2-10-20-30 machine. How common are chink parts leaking into eBay disguised as originals? Is anything shipping from China basically fake?

>>59778148
Agreed. I always use my volume mute button. I'd hate to "upgrade" to a laptop without one. Hell there's even a microphone mute button but I have no idea if it works or not. I've never seen it light up but it could just be a Linux issue.

>>59778177
There are no "fake" parts, just made by different OEMs, there may be a few different LCD models for same Thinkpad, with matte/glossy finish, TN/IPS and so on, but parts like plastic palmrests, lids and magnesium bases are all genuine. The main thing is non-original battery packs, the main concern is uncertain cell manufacturer and capacity and different stickers.

>>59778108
you got swindled, my dude

>>59778215

I thought only Lenovo made things for ThinkPads and anything else was a knockoff. I know displays can have different suppliers for the same line of machine but I wouldn't guess it would be the same for body panels and such. What models have you built from parts so far?

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>>59775641
is it worth getting one of those expresscard adapter to usb 3.0 for my x220t?

>>59778268
Not really

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>>59778268
Hello Chang
Seriously if it isn't this guy selling his cheap chink shit, it's the lenovo shills who keep mentioning those newer thinkpads **50, **60, **70
Just fuck off you asian shits

>>59778316
>People who can afford machines without outdated hardware are shills
How's that DVD drive and USB 2 for you anon

>>59777374
I have the t460 and kinda wish I got the 460s. I mainly got the 460 because the ram is easier to upgrade and it has a removable battery. The 460s is lighter and has somewhat better materials and I thought it wasn't worth the 300$ more. But the display is a lot better for the 460s. Really depends on what you want and how much money you want to spend

>>59778330

Not him but, 'outdated' is relative. If send letters a lot and I have a functioning IBM ThinkPad from 1994 that still works and connects to a printer I can still use it to write letters.

>>59778261
Motherboards are designed and manufactured by Wistron corporation, many keyboards in early 2000's were made by Chicony (real thing is there are not so many keyboard switch manufacturers even today, this is why every laptop looks like macbook air knock-off with island-style keys), some case designs for low-end IBM Thinkpads were manufactured by Asus and joint-company with LG for Korean market.
If you take off your laptop and look at molded parts closer, you will see manufacturer stickers, stamps and press-molded labels indicating their origin.

>>59778330
You really don't understand the appeal of ThinkPads. Buying them new is fucking retarded since the gooks overprice them. Businesses buy them in bulk at a discount, and then sell them on secondhand. If you buy newer model thinkpads, this general isn't for you

>>59778347
>>59777374
reminder to call out the lenovo shills who try to trick anons from this general into buying new laptops

>>59778354

Thank you for that information, I didn't have much of a clue about any of that.

>>59778378

I always have to check I read right when I see someone apparently asking about or using a T/W/X *40. Surely, nobody can be THAT dumb, being in /tpg/ and going for the worst ThinkPads ever created which were even ditched by Lenovo themselves. I will never have any interest in ThinkPads past the x30 models.

>>59778404
right. It's widely lauded as the worst ThinkPad of all time yet somehow there are at least three anons a week buying these machines on fucking /tpg/ no less and claiming they are good.

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>>59778316
which guy are you talking about?
>wish lenovo would put in a better panel on their thinkpads

>>59778367
I buy it from a campus store it's like 30-40% cheaper

I'm thinking of getting a laptop to Skype with my parents, how does this look bros?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/222464542673

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>>59778489

>a laptop
>for skype

>>59778489
get a tablet you nigger

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Picked this up from craigslist yesterday for $210, anyone used a x230T before? How much are the generic 6-cell battery nowhere days? I'm loving this laptop so far.

What's your distro recomendations for T420s? I've tried a few so far, mint, ubuntu, debian, etc. I have Arch on my home PC but not sure if I want it on my laptop.

Rule #1 of /tpg/: don't buy a used Thinkpad, unless you're really poor. They're old, ugly, and don't have dedicated graphics which are essential for most modern work (not only games, the whole GPGPU thingy doesn't work with shitty Intel Graphics). Go for a Macbook Pro if you have the money (or for a refurbished Macbook Air if you want to go cheap-Mac-route, they're like 700$ from Apple and are like new), or check out some HP/ASUS/Dell, you should find something pretty good around 400 $ if you're lucky in the new market. Just avoid Lenovo, they're not to be trusted since they put malware on a BIOS level. Old thinkpads are still ok though as a very cheap option.

>>59778954
I'm perfectly happy with Chakra on my memepads

>>59778954
LXLE, fastest one for crap machines

>>59778616
Problem is, all tablets kinda suck rn except iPad Pro. It's also true that skype doesn't require that good of a tablet

>>59778954
If you don't want Arch, you can always try Manjaro

>>59778436
Retards gonna retard.
Lenovo stopped being reliable after the x230, fuck those chinkpads and their malware botnet boot

>>59778489
It has quite a good camera for the money.
But even a T410 will be enough (if you don't mind the noise it makes).

Are you guys serious when you talk about Arch? I'd rather use my OS than serve it, some guys at my college were obsessed by setting up Arch since our first year, while I just went with Ubuntu or Debian and only did the little customizations I needed to work properly, and as a result I'm about to graduate while they spent 3 years just making their system usable without actually using it.

>>59779047
>T410
>For Skype
>Good camera
REEEEEEEEEEEEE

There's no way to remove stickers from an older ThinkPad without having the discolored spots left over, right? I don't want to fuck around with getting another palm rest.

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I also have a T61p I leave at my folks place.

Just picked up the T410 and T420 for $5 each, the T410 works fine and needs a screen replacement which I will then use to replace my daily x200.

While the T420 I think may have just had a lcd controller problem I think in testing it I blew out some fuses for the backlight on the MB.

>>59779146

>Just picked up the T410 and T420 for $5 each
>$5 each

WHERE DO YOU FUCKS FIND THIS SHIT

>>59779146
Never seen so much bloat in the same pic

Is there any think pad that can handle games at least on medium setting? I have e540 from work, but its whack.

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>>59778131
Not that concerned with it much.

>>59778108
I wish I sold you a computer for that much lol

>>59778954
LXLE on my T430s, love it

>>59779146
Nice deal, at the recycling center we work at, its $8 for a laptop w/ a good screen, I think we get 50 cents per pound on scrap laptops (broken lcd).
>got a S31 at work for $2
>boss was just happy we survived heart surgury
>I was fucking surprised someone tossed an S31

>>59779184
IT auctions, gotta fight the neck beards, get in close and bid on shit, the auctions are far and few between, I got 3 thinkpads in a mystery pile for $15, also bought an powerpc all in one imac for $15. A pile of 4 i5 2400s went for $30, 1st gen core 2 duo mac books went for $20 each, an entire table of ibm core 2 quad era dual xeons rack mounts and hdd redundancy stuff (probs worth like 800 all up) went for like 60 bucks.

On guy even bought an entire table with boxes of routers, probably over 100 in total for $10.

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>>59779225

>Never seen so much bloat in the same pic

Never seen Stallman from the neck down then.

>>59779242

This shit doesn't happen in the UK. What state are you in?

>>59779255
>>59779225
desu that's our office/my garage, its generally pretty tidy and minimal, but that day devolved into fixing the computers so everyone brought their junk in to try and fix for the day.

>>59779269
QLD, Australia.

>>59779284
Where abouts in QLD? I'm up north..

>>59778954
elementary, it works flawlessly

>>59776676
I know performance wise it'll handle it, my main concern is just the screen size
>>59777000
Lenovo doesn't sell directly to public here, and even with discounts an MBP is still 1400€

>>59779390
Brisbane, where up north?

>>59779475
Townsville, haven't really heard of any massive sales like that. I'm going back to Sydney for easter though.

>>59778624
If by generic you mean non-OEM, then make sure you keep in mind that you'll need to mod the bios for them to work properly.

>>59779284
>>59779475
Are you talking about the markets that Buy IT Back run? I've picked up a couple bargains there.

>>59780181
Yeh, on the days they auction off shit that doesn't sell.

>>59778108
Pretty OK when you consider the SSD and RAM. Even if it is just a cheap SSD, that would be about 50-80 dollars by itself, and the RAM would be about the same. A grade would imply that this computer is visually flawless, no dings, no scratches, no worn off coating.

>>59780273
>Even if it is just a cheap SSD, that would be about 50-80 dollars by itself, and the RAM would be about the same.
haha what

>>59780257
Fair enough, I've never stuck around for the auctions since I'm usually happy with the initial prices anyway and there's never anything left that I want. Even as it is it's a nuisance to get anything respectable given you have to race a small army of neckbeards to get to things first, I kind of wish they'd just go back to running sales more regularly.

W500 y/n?

>>59780347
Haha that's the prices new SSDs and 8GB RAM kits go for. Might find a cheap RAM kit on ebay, but you won't find a good new SSD for less than 50 dollars. As a package deal, that laptop seems ok.

>>59780347
Just checked newegg for you. Cheapest 128GB SSD is 45 dollars, cheapest 4GB RAM module is 25 dollars. That laptop has at least 70-95 dollars in upgrades. And it is supposed to be A grade (scratch free, no dents, no marks).

>>59780451
it's not A grade, look again

the ssd is probably a sataII beat up intel from 2012, most likely 320 series

where I am I can get a 8GB module for roughly $35. who the fuck buys new ddr3 ram?

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What thinkpad have the easiest HDD/SSD swap?
I have several 32GB SSD, and want to install different OS on each one, kinda like how RPi behave with different SD cards.

>>59779060
Rome wasn't built in a day desu

If you're not down to tinker with it as a hobby then that's fine and you should use something else.

I enjoyed it in a some fucked up way so I'm rewarded with a machine that is as perfectly suited for my work and leisure as is possible

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>>59780726
Any one with an ultrabay.

>>59780726
They'll all kind of work- the normal slot would work fine for this, you just wouldn't screw the drives into the caddy, it'd still be a secure fit without them. The problem is that the cover only stays on with a screw. Getting a ultrabay HDD caddy would probably be ideal, it's easy enough to eject and you don't necessarily need screws. Though if you weren't using screws then you might want a spacer to fill the gap in the caddy just prevent the drive sliding in it, even if it's unlikely to happen.

>>59780726
Anything with an Ultrabay like the Ivy and earlier T/W series for tool free swapping
Otherwise, most models are 1 screw access to drive bay though you'll want some spare sleds unless you want to change 4 screws every time

For the latter case, bear in mind that SATA connectors were designed with a limited wear life

>>59780797
Does it support booting from that?

>>59780815
If it can boot from the DVD drive, it should be able to boot off a SSD in the same bay.

>>59780814
I see.
The does it allow swapping while the OS is running?

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Hey I posted the tail end of last thread. Anyone ever hack a x220 keyboard onto the x230? I'm gonna do it either way, but was seeing if anyone here had a horror story to tell me before I order the keyboard.

Anyone here had to take their laptop apart and apply some new thermal paste?
I decided to bring my Acer 5755g up to date with Windows 10 and after a fresh reinstall and updates its still idling at 60 degrees+, going as high as 90 under some load.
I had to put a new battery in too since my old one just wouldnt hold any charge at all. (Why I stopped using it in the first place, well except for Windows 8 constantly freezing without a BSOD. So I knew I had to do a reinstall at some point)

I know it used to run hot anyway, but it was never quite this hot.

>>59775641
Is there any thinkpad that has maybe a 2gb dedicated gpu thats also slim and portable?

>>59781027
Would consider other brands as well

>>59779060
I haven't tried Arch yet but I spent about 70 hours playing Skyrim and at least 100 modding it, so there's people like me who enjoy this kind of thing.

>>59780991
>upgrade to Windows 10
Why would you do that
>from Windows 8
WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT?

>>59780861
The process of putting a **20 keyboard in a **30 machine is well documented here http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Install_Classic_Keyboard_on_xx30_Series_ThinkPads

Is it worth going for the 2000M Quadro in the W520? I'm trying to find the best combination + price I can afford, and from what I understand the GPU can't be upgraded later on.

>>59780647
People that care about warranties. Get a bad stick? just RMA it. You don't get that with ebay. Even if you get a used SSD from ebay, the prices on those can be rather stiff. Either you have one already from an old build, or you get a new one.

Looks like most of the marks on that laptop can be cleaned off. Even if you did find a cheaper x220 on ebay, the prices for a b-grade one is also pretty high, especially when you consider that many of them come without hdds, ram, chargers, or have worn keyboards and chipped off corners. 200 dollars is ok for a complete package, even if it does have a few marks that may or may not be dirt. I can't see any obvious cracks or defects on it.

Could find one cheaper locally, but the selection is worse, and you might have to wait for a long time to get one. Around these parts they're harder to find, and once you find one in good shape, they're sold for about 200 dollars with an i3.

Location: Angola (the country)
Price range: 300$
Size range: up to 14"
Performance requirements: an intel
Other requirements: good battery life


Yeah, maybe some know where I can buy one for cheap.

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>>59776015
Already did.

>>59781289
Ebay bro

T420 or T430 is right around your budget, if you only use it as facebook machine just get T410.

>>59781433
I don't think Ebay will do. Shipping is overpriced and if by chance I find a local seller it will by an overpriced piece of shit. Probably.

>>59781726
Wait for next e-waste cargo ship from America, or try looking for local used pc shops.

>>59780854
Yes

>>59781184
Depends on how badly you need it. The performance difference is fairly substantial though it'll run hotter and if it's combined with an i7 extreme, probably almost housefire tier if you run it under full load lel

>>59781785
>yes
Just eject the tray then swap the new SSD?
Won't corrupt the files on the SSD?
Do I need to install some applications for that?

>>59781815
Follow good practice of unmounting the drive of course. It is designed with hot swapping in mind after all. Though I guess if you have something as delicate as an OS, it might hate you for it just because
Unless you mean swapping while an OS booted from the ultrabay drive is hot swapped, in which case obviously no

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Just got my first ThinkPad -- an X230! Threw in a 9-cell, an SSD, 16GB of RAM, an IPS display, an AC7260 for WiFi, a new FPR, and a X220 keyboard and palmrest. Also flashed it with coreboot+grub2 payload, because why not.

>>59780861
It's pretty effortless, but you might want to order an X220 palmrest (like I did) if you don't want to file down the nubs on the keyboard. I didn't tape the two pins on the keyboard connector, and it seems to work fine so far too, with no visible damage.

You just have to swap in the keyboard (and optionally, palmrest), compile the modded EC firmware, flash it and you're done.

Is libreboot a meme or does it actually have any advantage over stock, assuming I'm planning on installing Linux once I decide on a distro?

I don't particularly care about the open-sourceness of bioses, but if it's actually more stable or has more customisation or things like that then I'd find it useful.

>>59781979
Thanks.
I guess I'll make the HDD the daily driver, then set the booting order of the DVD drive to be first.
That way it will boot from the caddy first.

>>59782113
In terms of practical advantages, perhaps a faster boot -- a sub-10-second boot from button press to desktop is possible with something like (core/libre)boot and grub2 payload

Are there any Thinkpads that do not use PWM to control the screen brightness?

I bought an X230 as a sort of side-grade from my T500 (still use the former because 1920x1200), mainly use the X230 on the go. But I find whenever I turn down the brightness on the screen, after a little while I get a horrible headache and my eyes really hurt. I looked this up and found a lot of sensitive users have the same issue due to the very low PWM refresh rate. My T500 has no such issue since the backlight is CCFL. So to avoid the strain, I have to keep the X230 on maximum brightness all the time, which hurts battery life and is frankly pointless.

I hear the new X1 Carbon doesn't have this problem, but are there any others aside from ancient models? Why does Lenovo even do this? Is it cheaper than using an LED backlight that dims properly?

I have a 750Ti lying around and I want it to use with my x220

Any good cheap adapters?

So I started looking at X series models last night. An anon told me I could get one with a 1920x1080 resolution. What X series models with a resolution above 720p are recommended?

What is the most powerful thinkpad I could buy that still has that classic thinkpad feel?

>>59782949

Fuck. i meant to say above the 1366x768 resolution.

>>59782960
Transnote

>>59782065
Nice, how much did it all cost though

Guys I've been getting lots of mixed signals, can the w/t500 share a battery with the t400? Also do they share the same ultrabay battery

Is there a comprehensive guide on the differences between all the different thinkpad models?

>>59783391
W5xx 15 inch workstations
T5xx 15 inch standard laptops
T4xx 14 inch standard laptops
X2xx 12 inch ultra portable

Xx00 last core 2 laptops
Xx10 first Gen core i series
Xx20 second Gen core i series
Xx30 third Gen core i series

X230 with 4gb ram and i7 3520m for £300 in mint condition a good deal?

>>59782913
exp gdc beast v8.0 is the only one at a reasonable price ($50ish). some people reported stability issues, while most users haven't had any. i wonder how many of those problems might've been caused by odd card/psu/laptop combos rather than the adapter itself. like, a shit atx psu, overpowered card, shitbox laptop with a flaky mpcie port, etc. my exp gdc v8/750 ti/dell da2 psu/x220 works great

>>59783504
Where does T61 fall in that?

>>59783516
I have little knowledge of the market but I got a grade B X220 of an equivalent tier for £150. Obviously I'd expect the newer model to be more expensive but I can see listings around the £200 range.

Now obviously yours is in mint condition but then you have to decide whether you're ok with spending £50-£100 just for good condition.

I tried converting over to Linux but I still find myself using Windows from time to time. I originally swapped out the 160gb hard drive in my T400 for an SSD, but I am wondering if it is possible to get a hard drive caddy to house the original Windows drive and then select which OS to use on boot (with Linux on the SSD and Windows on the ultrabay)

>>59783516
i got my x230 i5-3320m 8gb 128gb SSD for £150, was pretty much mint condition also.

the i7 apparently runs hotter and drains the battery faster, so maybe consider that too

>>59783713
You don't need two drives to dual boot.

>>59783524
What's the port you used? express card slot for x220?

Do you have to use an external monitor?

I'm waiting for a super cheap rx 460 sale

>>59784017
I know that. My issue is that neither of the drives are really big enough to make partitioning worthwhile (120 GB and 160 GB). I want to keep the existing SSD, which is 100% dedicated to Linux, and add the original hard drive (which still has the Windows 7 installation on it and is sitting in a drawer) in an Ultrabay setup. I am wondering if this can be done seamlessly or if I will need to keep changing the boot order in the BIOS.

>>59783540
15 inch 4:3 standard laptop, t61p is the workstation variant but the graphics chips tend to die

>>59784286
Some are 16:10 wide-screen tho

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>>59783540
>tfw a 4:3 T61 came to work today
It's going to join the T430s

can you mod a full hd ips screen on the t530???

>>59783540
14" and 15" standard laptop
T61p is W series equivalent

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>change thermal paste on x220
>boot
>graphics fucked up

Did I break it?

>>59786087
These graphics look fantastic

>>59786087
Its just the nightmare vision goggles No worries.

>>59786193
>>59786204
Pls help

>>59786244
Try reseating the display connection.

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>>59786204
>>59786244

>>59786244
you fucked up

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thoughts on the toshiba portege z30?

>>59786314
kys

>>59786378
You kill yourself, this isn't solely a thinkpad thread you sperg.

>>59786314
Never met a Toshiba that wasnt shit.

>>59786435
My 1998 laptop running Windows98 and still going strong today says otherwise.

>>59786435
portege is their business line, I've never tried one but they look really nice. I was just wondering if anyone here has used them before I get one. I could get a free z30.

>>59783524

I haven't played games since my converting all my PC's to servers, but friends want me to play games like overwatch, CS, minecraft, and rocketleague.

Think a X220 with a GTX460 can handle this?

>>59780406

I thought so, the 1 year warranty is also good since i don't really want to get all diy in case something fails

>>59786435
my shitty l450 that lasted 5 years of extremely heavy use says otherwise

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>>59782065
Thanks anon, I already saw the tutorial I just wanted to hear it from a person that it's as easy as described. Ordering now because I miss Dem nice shortcuts.

>>59786466
>minecraft

I got that to work on a 2007 low-end pink vaio with like a 1GHz pentium or some shit, and no GPU to speak of (I'm not even sure if it came with integrated graphics).

Granted I was limited to 2 chunks draw distance and the framerate would dip if I looked at too many things at once, but point is your X220 should be just fine. Unless you want to run modded, that thing can make my 4660k lag depending on what I'm trying to build.

>CS
GO? Source? Again, some games are older than others.
Since I believe CS:GO uses the Source engine (correct me if I'm wrong), it should probably be fine.

>Rocket league
Ok I have no idea because it's such a small game but it's also relatively new. I never tried it on low-end hardware, so I have literally no idea how well optimised it is. You might need to turn the graphics down for a 460.

>Overwatch
I would highly doubt that, it's a recent game built to be pretty and fancy rather than compatible with 7 year old ultraportable laptops. You might find yourself struggling both on the CPU and GPU end to be honest.

>>59786484
I'm guessing an ebay seller wont be that helpful in 11 months if something stops working. But maybe he's sitting on a pile of replacement parts and will just send over any part you report as broken. Hard to tell if they will honor their warranty, since I doubt you can change your feedback after 11 months.

There might be local businesses that sell off-lease business laptops, but the ones that do that here usually sell laptops like the X220 for 350-400 dollars.

Ok so, I've already decided on a W500 for general use, but what I want now is quite the opposite of a W-series.

I tend to be quite a lot on the road/ away with work so I need something
>tiny, light, something you can throw around
>dirt cheap
>can decently run youtube via chrome on linux
>decent soundboard if possible (main use would be listening to music)
>battery life (so either availability of replacement batteries or hackability of standard ones, I can replace the 18650 cell myself granted there's no problems with the chip making my life hard)
I'm not really interested in any "tablet" capabilities.

Any opinions deebly abbregiated :DDD

>>59786864
Have you considered an mp3 player? An order of magnitude cheaper than almost any laptop, correspondingly smaller and lighter, can get thrown around.

The only downside is that depending on the model, youtube might be awkward or outright impossible. So for this to work you'd need to be able to pre-download your music. If that's not an option, then take a look at the X series - even the X200 should be good enough to play videos in a browser, although I have no idea how good its sound is.

>>59787069
Well that's the thing, I want something like a media player, but, in laptop form. Else I'd have gotten a tablet. Plus you can't really shitpost on 4chan from an mp3 player.

>>59787141
>You can't shitpost on 4chan from an mp3 player
You'd be surprised. I posted a few shitposts from my 3DS of all things.

Anyway, yeah, consider an X200 or so. There are older, smaller models, and you could set up youtube-dl to listen to youtube music without having to load the bloated website, but again sound is probably gonna be shit and it's also more of a hassle. Plus buying a 7 year old (or so) laptop has its risks, now if you go for a 10+ year old laptop you're that much more likely to have various parts of it die on you.

>>59786466
>>59786576
Oh yeah also
>1366*768, 12 inches
I mean you CAN play games on it, but...

For those of you running coreboot did you have any problem installing or booting windows with native graphics init?

>>59783087
I reckon somewhere around $350 to $400 USD

>>59775641
Sup /g/. I was wandering around this board to get ideas for my new laptop (thanks burglars for breaking into my apartment and stealing my Asus X201E: it was shit, but I liked it), when I saw this general's title and I remembered seeing my Orbital Mechanics lecturer, an engineer that I respect a lot, with a ThinkPad, so I stopped by.

After I read the OP I went on ebay and I discovered the T420 and the X220, the ones you suggest, are sold for less than €300, which is insane, since similarly priced new laptops on amazon have shittier specs.

However these ThinkPads are five years old used machines, so I was really wondering what's the deal with ThinkPads.

Is it actually a safe choice to buy used or reconditioned ThinkPads? Also, why suggesting such old machines: wouldn't it be better to spend more and buy newer ones?

Thanks.

>>59782065
>w in a 9-cell, an SSD, 16GB of RAM, an IPS display, an AC7260 for WiFi, a
how did you get the ac7260 to work? Thought these had a whitelist

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>heatsink on the """""refurbished""""" X230t I bought in December starting to sound like a leafblower
>idling in the high 50s/low 60s
>finally fan starts making a horrible grinding noise
>bite the bullet, buy a new heatsink
>start teardown
>screws holding down the Bluetooth and WiFi cards completely stripped
>can't take out motherboard without taking out those two screws
>Lenovo """""engineering"""""
>furious because either the refurb company stripped them putting the mobo back in, or didn't take the mobo out for inspection at all
>can't decide which is worse
>put it aside for a couple weeks
>spend $30 on a pair of "screw extracting pliers"
>actually works
>remove old heatsink
>thermal paste nightmare
>looks like that MSI webm
>dustier than a 90 year old woman's vagina
>clean it up
>install new heatsink
>put it back together
>just now booted it back up
>still idling in the high 50s

>>59787887
holy shit, sounds awful. this is probably the most fitting use of that image I've seen

>>59787758
Just get one you pussy

>>59787885
the whitelist is in the BIOS, and I'm using coreboot so there's no whitelist anymore

>>59788125
oh i see, is it an easy process to flash? I have an x230 already with the keyboard mod and would love to have ac wifi. Btw I highly recommend you isolate those 2 pins on the keyboard as over time it can cause damage. Its not something you'll notice straight away.

>>59788141
it's a little bit of a pain in the ass to flash -- you'll need an SPI flasher and a SOIC-8 clip. I used a Raspberry Pi I had lying about and bought a Pomona 5250 clip, but once you flash the correct bits you'll be able to flash it again from your OS.

You'd have to compile coreboot (might take a few tries to get everything working just the way you want), (optionally) take a backup of your 4MiB BIOS ROM chip and flash the ROM chip with your coreboot image. If you want to be able to flash coreboot from your OS after that, you'd also want to dump your 8MiB IFD/ME/GBE ROM chip and unlock the flash descriptor. I'd recommend that if you want to save yourself the hassle when you change something else in the future.

Anyway, coreboot should generally work fine out of the box, but resume from S3 suspend resulted in the LVDS screen not turning on -- I had to use the VGABIOS binary blob out of my BIOS instead of native graphics init (uncheck Devices > Use native graphics init, then check Devices > Run VGA Option ROMs).

Also, thanks for the heads up about the keyboard, I'll go tape up those pins. A brand new keyboard would only cost me around $22 USD though, so I'm not particularly concerned

>>59787758
That's the entire point of ThinkPads: their build quality is so good that you can comfortably buy used and most of the time it will work great.

Of course as with anything there's a risk that it won't work great, or won't work at all, so it's always worth taking reasonable precautions that would allow you to return the product if faulty (so, for instance, a shady deal on gumtree or something is worth worrying about). Most places offer some sort of buyer protection, though, so it shouldn't be too much of a problem.

>>59784074
>>59786466
>>59786576

>What's the port you used? express card slot for x220?
expresscard. you'd have to take off the palmrest and remove wifi for the mpcie port
>Do you have to use an external monitor?
i don't need to since optimus switching on my nvidia card can pipe the video back to the internal screen. external screen has better performance though since it doesn't saturate the pcie lane as much
>I'm waiting for a super cheap rx 460 sale
amd cards won't work very well on the internal screen. i think there's some hacky bullshit you can do but it's not as smooth as with optimus switching

>overwatch, minecraft
i've gotten overwatch to run 60 fps at medium on an external screen, 30 fps at high on the internal screen (1366x768). minecraft 60 fps with default settings on the internal screen
>GTX460 can handle this?
not sure. using a 750 ti

>>59788322
GTX460 is like easily 50-70% less powerful than the 750. That's three generations and an architecture switch or two.

I want:
-Extremely good battery life. Stable underclocking/undervolting
-Robust design, must last AT LEAST five years of constant 24/7 usage
-Easy maintenance (no soldered CPU, can easily remove crap like bluetooth or the microphone, applying thermal paste is not a torture)
-Good IPS screen
-No serious design problems like the T60's heat issues
-Powerful enough for random web browsing, Youtube crap, taking notes, coding stuff... Not gonna play heavyweight games on that
-Very good *nix/*BSD support

Recommendations?
-

>>59788473
a31p

how rare/expensive are good condition T60/T60p's? Want one but don't know what price is right to settle on/what condition to go for

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After 6 years, I have just upgraded from a T420 to the new X1 Carbon. Got it for a 1/3 off. Seems pretty dank so far.

>>59788514
The only ones worth getting have the flexview display and they are quite expensive as they are hard to come by especially in good condition. The ones with the TN screens can be had for quite cheap though. I wouldn't recommend one for this reason, unless you really really want a 4:3 laptop.

>>59788544
well that's embarrassing

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how plausible would it be to make a new case for an old thinpad with a 3d printer? Has anybody done this before?

Just bought a refurb top spec 440p I'm very excited for my first thinkpad

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>>59787887
lol what the fuck? my 3630qm idles at 60, right now.

i like it quiet.

>>59788573
just print your shit on the library, holy shit, stop wasting money you mong.

>>59788661

How/why?

>>59788725
i dont understand your question..

how? thermal grizzly thermal paste, throttlestop management of C6 state and tpfancontrol i modified to my liking.

why? i prefer it to be quiet when im using my laptop, unless im doing something cpu intensive i dont want my shit to overheat

I cannot for the life of me find and x230 or x240 with a 1920x1080 display. Where the fuck are they? Should I just settle for the lower display one?

>>59788829
x230 never came with a 1080 display

>>59787887
>laptop
>low temps ever

select uno.

even mac fags buying an aluminium block that is supposedly acting like one big heatsink throttles to fuck from the heat as soon as you open a web browser.

>>59788480
anon pls

So, what's better, refurbished X220 with 4GB RAM, 2.5GHz Core i5, 320GB HDD and a 1-year warranty from the seller for $215, or an used X220 with 4GB RAM and 128GB SSD for $230?

>>59788829
>>59788847
You could mod a X230 with a 1080p display, but it's rather ugly in that it uses the dock eDP lanes to drive the display and leaves the LVDS lanes for the internal monitor disconnected.

>>59788868
I'd personally pick the refurb one, provided that it's in better condition and the only differences are the ones you've stated.

You can easily snag a 128GB SSD for dirt cheap anyway.

>>59788881

Is x230 the model to buy right now?

>>59788891
do you think the X220 would be great for the requirements I listed here >>59788473 ?


Some anons recommended me that one in an earlier thread.

>>59788858

Expecting idle temps lower than 60 is not unreasonable.

>>59788934
bruh, if i turn the fan from 2 to 5 ill hit 52c at idle

going from 5 to 7 ill idle at 44c

its just too noisy

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I always see this thread up and am wondering if I should get one for school. Or is this thread just run by pajeet and a few shills?

Sell me on think pads.

>>59775641
Will the T430 70+ battery work on the T420? Seriously, anyone can help? The lenovo website is retarded.

>>59788958
Some of us are legit into this notebook and like it for the reasons stated in the post. There are some memesters, tho.

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>>59788958

>cheap
>reliable
>built like a brick shithouse
>can actually do work on them if something goes wrong unlike just about every other laptop out there, parts are also cheap and plentiful
>hipster cred

Why the fuck wouldn't you buy one?

>>59788958
>Sell me on think pads
why would i want to do so? i really dont give two fucks if you get one or not. its your choice, its your money. teach yourself and figure this shit out, faggot

>>59780991
>/tpg/
>business laptops general
>acer
>its a bland laptop, that makes it a business laptop
>shit build quality, like any other budget laptop
Not surprised, get a Travelmate next time.

>>59781184
I was quite surprised with a 1000m GPU
honestly a QC i7 is great though, I recommend that.
Don't upgrade unless you want to do a full gut on it, because it doesn't have an MXM GPU like rival W Elitebooks or Precision do

>>59781326
>look at me, I post the same photo over and over again
Honestly it feel like bragging rights now.

>>59786466
I play Overwatch with a desktop ivy i7 and GTX 680, it feels its not good enough on high settings.

>>59787758
ThinkPads and other business bought laptops bask in the second hand market because the people selling them do not have any sentimental or monetary value towards them. Most places charge the original owners to zero the drives out and remove their 'old' IT equipment.
This is why i5/i7 business laptops are a lot cheaper than their consumer counterparts.
The seller isn't the owner, the difference is that they just want to make profit rather than trying to get as much value from their machine when bought new.

>>59788934
>Expecting idle temps lower than 60 is not unreasonable.
on that particular model and cpu maybe, my shit is 42C idle

>>59788958
>Sell me on think pads.
shithead OP didnt include the usual description

>Used machines are plentiful and cheap.
>Excellent keyboards - tactile feel and quiet.
>Great durability: chassis uses a magnesium rollcage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels.
>Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing in the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.


>>59788991
yes

>>59788925
>Extremely good battery life. Stable underclocking/undervolting
Battery life should be decent, although I'm not sure if you can really underclock Core i CPUs. Maybe with Throttlestop or something.

>Robust design, must last AT LEAST five years of constant 24/7 usage
It's built pretty well, so I guess so

>Easy maintenance (no soldered CPU, can easily remove crap like bluetooth or the microphone, applying thermal paste is not a torture)
CPU's soldered to the mobo. Bluetooth board is easily removable (just one screw), microphone is on the board with the inward-facing LEDs though so that might be harder. Thermal paste might be a little bit of the pain, but it's still easy to tear the X230 apart so I reckon it's the same with the X220.

>Good IPS screen
You can install one if yours doesn't come with one.

>No serious design problems like the T60's heat issues
Not sure about this.

>Powerful enough for random web browsing, Youtube crap, taking notes, coding stuff... Not gonna play heavyweight games on that
Sure, Sandy Bridge is still rather capable.

>Very good *nix/*BSD support
Probably

>>59788918
Not sure about you, but IMO it's one of the last good models by Lenovo before they shat it up even more. Built rather well, although if the keyboard isn't to your liking you can swap it out with a classic keyboard.

>>59787887
>tfw I've only had an overheating issue on an asus core 2 duo gaming laptop after all these years
2 years of flipping random laptops at a company and this laptop is the first one that ive encountered with dry brittle thermal paste

>>59788473
8770w, M6800, P50 or P70

>>59788544
nice anon, is that the X1C4? you did well
I liked my X1C3 minus the lid flex, 4K display was a bit much for it imo

>>59788573
I plan on scanning some computers, specifically caddies and rear I/O covers

>>59788599
Hope you like it, sadly the*40 series are flawed with the clickpad, a regular touchpad swap might be for you. I personally was susprised by the performance my intel GPU T440p did

>>59788868
The SSD unit is such a fucking better deal
$15 for a year warranty
just swap the HDD for a GOAT ssd and if it gives you shit, swap it back and return

>>59788918
2570p has a socketed CPU but no mSATA
it cant do quadcore CPUs last time i checked

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I bought a new replacement battery for my thinkpad T61p. I wanted to get a 7800mAh (9 cell) and the one I had was 5200mAh. They are claiming that because of this difference I bought the wrong model. Does the capacity of the battery affect the compatibility? The voltage is the same on each battery at 10.8V.

>>59789141
Yea I heard about the weird trackpad but it didnt deter me enough to stop me buying it - hopefully i dont mind it. Otherwise, I've heard you can drop a 450 trackpad in fairly easily?

>>59775641
fuck the guy saying the t540p is flimsy, it's sturdier than my x200.

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>>59789235
>fuck the guy saying the t540p is flimsy

>>59778624
>no optical disk drives detected

how long have you been on /g/?

>>59789227
>Does the capacity of the battery affect the compatibility?
No

Should I sell my x240 and buy an x230?

Pretty sure this is the only way to fix my jet engine fan noise issue.

>>59789305
I thought so, I'm writing a strongly worded email to them.

>>59789309
dude just get a 14" or 15" one if you're autistic (like me) about fan noise.

>>59779864
The EC, not the BIOS. https://github.com/hamishcoleman/thinkpad-ec

>>59783516
>>59783516

You know what mint condition means right? Mint condition means 'fresh out of the factory packaging' condition. I think people here have some real low standards or just don't notice things, but I assure you, it's not mint condition if it's an i7 and going for £300.

I found two Craigslist. The first an X220 i5 for $150. The second a T420 i7 for $170. Which is the better choice? Thank you in advance.

>>59788692

Are you mentally retarded? He's talking about 3D printing plastic parts for a laptop, not printing fucking paper you stupid cunt. Jesus Christ.

Holy fuck all I want is the option for a FHD display in a T470, Lenovo you autistic fucks how is it available in every store besides the US one?

REEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>59789234
Removing the keyboard on T440/s/p is slightly more difficult than other TPs but yeah, you can replace it, not too costly IMo and fairly easy

I didnt liek it on the T440p but it was useable on the Helix. idk why

>>59789295
>implying /g/ needs internal disk drives

>>59789309
it wont lol

>>59789530
Oh I don't know
Because either laptop can have from 2 to 16GB RAM and that can play a big fucking difference.

the X220 is probably a better deal
unless an i7 sounds better, its most likely not a fucking quadcore.
At least you can sell the T420's i7 after you buy a qm i7

>>59789798
swap one in, faggot.

>>59789934
T420 has 8GB. X220 has 4GB.
It's a dual core i7.

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I got a new thinkpad!

X230, i53220m, 4GB (to be upgraded to 8GB), 500GB HDD (to be upgradded to a 256gb SSD). Case is smashed a bit but I'm getting a replacement in the mail.

>>59790086
get the 420
blaze it nigga

>>59789934
I would if they weren't notorious for whitelisting hardware and getting screens from ten billion different manufacturers which ends up giving you power management issues if you chose a screen that's the wrong model

>>59776015
when somebody kickstarts one

Who has the oldest shitposting Thinkpad here?

I often post from my X40. Anybody running anything earlier? It does the job without breaking a sweat which leads me to believe that an X30 could too if one could tolerate a more stately pace of browsing on image-heavy pages.

>>59789280
that's fucking chink ass shit

>>59778476
.... that's beautiful.....

>>59790544
I wish I still had my X31...

It was OK but I'd really rather X60.

I just won a t60 in good condition for $30.00 on ebay. Lets see if it works when I get it.

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So..I just replaced the screen on my t420 with the alienware panel (glossy).

It has much nicer colours, the jump in resolution is nice. The viewing angles are better (but still poor). I would recommend it all in all. I have to say that working on the t420 was not as easy as I expected.

All the videos on youtube about it were quite shitty, I ended up referring to the t420 manual which was quite good.

>>59791146
>jump in resolution
you need a special cable/converter for that? also I heard something weird like it doesnt have screwholes or something like that, it's that true?

>>59791146
>I have to say that working on the t420 was not as easy as I expected.
Did you need to change to the HD+ cable or something? Otherwise in terms of only the screen replacement it's about as easy as it gets.

>>59791220
Because I had the 768p panel I had to change it from a HD cable to a HD+ cable I got from some chinese seller on ebay.

Had no issues with screwholes, the screen itself was straightforward.

>>59791227
I found removing the palm rest difficult. It was really stiff and felt like I had to 'force' it out. Replacing just the panel would have been easy, that is true.

>>59789798
why do you want the t470 though? it's literally the t460 with USB-C and +400$

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>>59791254
>I found removing the palm rest difficult
thats why you should use these plastic thingies

Anyone ever consider doing this with the original unibody macbooks?

All aluminum frame, c2d, capable of removing disk drive for another ssd, world class trackpad, replaceable keyboard, battery, $100.

>>59791564
Never heard of them. I just used a cheap plastic 'spudger' and a screwdriver to pry it, which did not use well.

I assume next time I want to pull it out it will come out easier.

>>59791591
>fragile, too few cooling vents, zero spill protection
why?

>>59775641
I just ordered my first thinkpad, a T470 with an IPS FHD display and the 72whr rear battery, planning on upgrading the 4GB ram to 8 once it arrives, and somewhere down the line I'll throw in an SSD, for $660 burger bucks how did I do?

I got a Samsung QX412-S01DE as a handmedown from my bro with win10 already on it. Problem is after an update was forced down my throat, keyboard doesnt fuckin work. or Rather some keys work half the time but register a completely diffrent key than the one pressed. i alrdy tried updating and reinstalling keyboard drivers but that didnt work. Please help me here. im fucking typing this with the onscreen keyboard, and ive got class monday.

>>59791591
>Anyone ever consider doing this
I don't know what 'this' means but every old macbook I've seen looks like shit, all scratched and dented and so on. thinkpads have this black polycarbonate whatever its called and you can't really notice the wear and tear - if there's any wear and tear that is, because you're comparing business laptops mostly used in office environments, with facebook machines used by teenagers and xanax soccer moms.

>>59791713
>>59791672
>>59791659
>>59791642
>>59791591
>>59791564
>>59791301
>>59791254
>>59791227
>>59791220
>>59791146
>>59790678
>>59790671
>>59790574
>>59790551
Would this be ok to throw in the T470 I have on the way? https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820242126&ignorebbr=1

>>59788266
anon how much for you to build me a ballin x230?

>>59791779
>the lelnovo shill is back
We only like old secondhand thinkpads here Huang

>>59791998
$150 and a blindfold handjob

>>59792021
is the blindfold for you or the other person?

>>59790574
ya. The guy is still accepting orders if you live in china. either buy one of their modded ones or send yours in for the mod. Good thing one of my friend is working there and I might be able to ask him for help. Though is it really a good upgrade from my x220t (2520m) to a T430 with i7...

>>59791998
I found chinks who do it for dosh on facebook. Check out the X330, they put a 2k 12.5" IPS screen in an X230. They also make what they call an X62 which is an X61 with a custom mobo to allow for 5th gen i7 processor and updated screen and shit. Kind of expensive though.

>>59792110
for me because I'm not gay

>>59790116
>>New thinkpad
>>case is smashed

>>59792353
>>59792145
That what I'm thinking of getting. The guy said both the t430 and x230 uses a 2k ips panels that are rated 100% sRGB. I really want a quality screen for my photo editing work. He was talking about the idea of putting a 4k panel onto a x250.

>>59792353
I wonder should I just give up my thinkpad keyboards and get an xps 15...

How do I disassemble the nipple?

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if I got one of these for my t420, how would I power it?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004578NQW
can I just get one of these and some splitters to get it to work?

Is there a way to disable the 3-key rollover warning beep on thinkpads?

cheapest thinkpad with dvd drive?

Any of you guys want a thinkpad x60t 1400x1050 for sale?

http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=123486

>>59793202
$50?

>>59792806
a PSU from a pewter.

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Where did you buy your x220 IPS screen from? I bought a "T1" one from Aliexpress and it was just a B3 with a T1 sticker on (the B3 sticker was underneath). I wouldn't have minded if it wasn't defective. Aliexpress didn't want to pay me back so I got screwed for like $65.
I'm looking for a reliable supplier so this will not happen again.

>>59793202
>complete broken POS
>pls buy gies.

>>59793603
contact your bank, or your CC company. Visa and mastercard both have guarantees against BS like that.

>>59793603
Ebay only, and only if the listing explicitly states 'exact model' and doesn't feature the 'compatible' buzzword.

Anything else and you always run the risk of getting older revision panels with newer stickers or even worse, awful junk from other manufacturers.

>>59793186
W701ds

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The sound on my T420 stopped working.
I think it's the sound chip fault.
Is there some small USB external sound card with mic/headphone combo that replace it? Or should I get Sound Expresscard?

>>59789141
So you're telling me to go for the $215 offer because of the 1-year warranty and a HDD or for the $230 offer with an SSD?

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>buy x200
>first notebook ever
>first thing to do when it arrives: clean it and clean the screen
>screen is actually crystal clear
>nice.jpeg
>stays like this for a week
>start taking it to my internship
>first fucking day
>fucking bitch slides her goddamned moist finger in the screen
>every single fucking day one retard does this
>die internally every time
>fucking absolute disgust when come home to the screen looking like an abstract paiting

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Which of the original IBM thinkpads are actually worth getting (and why)?

>>59794324
>his internship doesn't provide him with company laptop
Shit, son, I'm a filthy second worlder and I'm laughing at you.

>>59788544
>KC
ach bernd..

>>59794364
first off is not really an internship, it is a junior enterprise, its a global movement of companies associated with colleges, non-profitable, run entirely by students. they cover various fields, depending on the college. in my case, its administration and what we do is business consulting

yeah nobody gets paid shit (only 4h/day though), but its a hell of a experience, been there for bit more than 1 month and already made a project of business diagnosis, went to meetings with clients and even made a fucking outdoor for our company

bottom line is, my company is not rich, they can't offer notebooks but we have desktops there but they are shitty so few people bring their notebooks

x220 with i5 or x220 with i7 ?

>>59789798
the FHD screens are available for the T470 now in US I just checked

>>59791301
It's actually $179 more expensive for the T470 as I configured it for the bottom end

Is USB-C worth $179???? Is this USB-C thing a meme, I'm thinking of getting the T460 and then waiting to see what happens with the retro

Is there anything before the T460 that is comparable speed wise and battery life wise

Any tips for cleaning the speakers of the T420? I've tried compressed air and using electrical tape to get the particles out of the holes in the speakers, but some are too deep.

I'm assuming that to install an mSata SSD, I need to follow the instructions on page 74 of this https://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub/pc/pccbbs/mobiles_pdf/0a60739_04.pdf, correct?

>>59795061
USB-C is basically USB 3.1, so USB 3 but faster. Unless you want to be booting from an external SSD or something, it's basically a meme.

It also has a different connector. Literally get a $5 adapter and you're set. In the long run standardisation of USB-C is nice because the connector is much better than standard USB-A, but that literally has zero bearing on your current laptop purchase.

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>>59775641
I need an affordable future proof thinkpad for internet surfing (shitposting) and watching vietnamese cartoons in 1080p if possible. I am not really technologically savvy and a yuropoor, just so you know. Pls help

>>59795485
t420
or x220 if you are going to use it with external display.

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So I bought my first thinkpad from a local store. Less expensive than ebay stuff. A fine T430. I get to use the red clitoris in the middle of the keyboard. I mean, how the fuck is this useful ?

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what's this for?

>>59795955
Probably an expresscard slot.

>>59795792
not going to use an external display yet, maybe in the future since I will mostly use it at home anyways

are there more aesthetic models? I like the /g/ look, but I would like it to be a bit more like the t440+ models. Is there anything?

>>59795955
54mm ExpressCard slot
Use it for USB3 expansion cards, eGPUs and a whole bunch of other things
It's basically a slot for a shrunken PCIe x1 card

>>59795464
Thanks anon, I guess it' good the industry is going this way but it's prob not worth it to pay $180 for 1 single port

Is there a good adapter or hub out htere

>>59796099
t450s/t460s depending on how much you are willing to spam, you can also go ham and buy a t470s

>>59796110
That sounds very useful, what kind of "other things" are in the "whole bunch"?

>>59796144
https://www.amazon.com/Lemeng-USB3-0-Connector-Converter-Adapter/dp/B01ABTHI7C/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1491667409&sr=8-4&keywords=usb+c+to+usb+3+adapter

Second result on amazon, after the exact same thing but the other way around.

They're piss-cheap and super-simple so don't worry much about it. Besides there aren't that many devices which use USB-C male exclusively yet - smartphones have migrated to usb-c female from micro-usb, so more devices are starting to use the male, but you probably won't find yourself in a situation to need this adapter any time soon. For instance, almost all memory sticks which have a usb-c connector also have a traditional usb-a connector.

>>59780347
>haha what
Where are you guys buying cheap RAM and SSD upgrades for these?

What's the best price to performance for RAM and SSD now? Best brands?

Im 'looking at getting a T460

>>59796241
Cursory glance through Amazon brings up TV tuners, video capture cards, SATA expansion cards, remote controls, wireless adapters and SD/eMMC/FireWire adapters
There's probably more out there

>>59796290
Nice

>>59791301
>it's literally the t460 with USB-C and +400$
>>59795061
>>59795464

It's not USB-C but Thunderbolt 3.
It replaces the Display Port.

I'm not 100% sure but I think it can also charge over USB-C, and if so that could be a big plus if you share workplaces with others using USB-C charging.

Worth $179 though? I don't know, It depends how rich you are but I would say probably not unless you plan to use it for a very long time.

>>59796110
>USB3 expansion cards
how's this?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-USB-3-0-54mm-3-Port-Express-Card-Adapter-Expresscard-for-Laptop-FL1100-Chip-/252598722173?hash=item3ad00e9e7d:g:fJsAAOSwo4pYCzjT

>>59796199
t450s is about 800 yurobux in Germoney
I want to spend like 500 max, t450 seems to be available for about 500 if lucky
btw I don't need a slim model, I like it T H I C C and boxy, t420 is just too much for me

>>59792757
Bump
Do i just yank it out?

>>59796488
7h later and you still haven't figured it out? It's amazing that you even found this place.

Yes, just pull.

>>59796532
>Yes, just pull.
I'm afraid I'll break it

>>59796337
What the fuck were they thinking with this USB-C Thunderbolt idea

what are normal temperatures for a t420? I recently changed the cooling paste and it'always around 55 celsius when browsing or something shooting to 70 degrees celsius under some load and reaching mid 80's when doing some heavier stuff. Did I fuck up the cooling paste or is this normal?

>>59797314
Nope, idle is somewhat okay but you shouldn't be reaching 80c without some heavy load.

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>>59795865
wtf did I just read?

how is the clit useful? not having to be constantly switching your hands between keyboard and mouse

>>59797436
yeah I that's what I feared. guess I'll have to open it up again. thanks

T460s or x1 carbon
what buy?

>>59797757
t420s + 16gb ram + 2ssd + ultrabay battery + egpu

>>59797757
X1.. pref an i7

>>59797314
you clearly did something wrong when changing the paste, I haven't changed mine since forever and it idles at 39-43c, browsing 48, and during the heaviest 100 percent load I've never seen it go past 74. you should reseat the heatsink and make sure turbo boost is disabled.

>>59798243
Same for my t420s. Went up to 90c when I'm running Photoshop and illustrator together. There was a windows update waiting and after I did the update, it went down to around 70c. Guess I'll need to do a repaste. Just replaced the mobo a few days ago

>>59775641
t450 or t440?

>>59796629
It pops right off.

>>59795431
Self-bump

I know it's a pretty stupid question but I've literally never opened a laptop before. I don't want to fuck up because I completely misread something obvious.

>>59792537
New to me sperglord. Just picked up the new case and changed it. Now I just need to pick up some epoxy to fix the broken screen lid.

>>59799706
Not sure if you need to remove the keyboard, but you need to remove the palmrest at least. Then the slot is right there on the right side

>>59799871
Alright, at least I was looking in the right place. I'll figure out the rest as I go, cheers mate

>>59775641
>look up the 2570p
>can put quadcore i7
>no whitelist so I can just put ac wifi and it'll werk!
>esata
>cheaper than x230
>can't be modded to use the ips display of the x series

REEEEEEEEEE


why !!!!!!!!

the 2570p was looking very good until the screen bit.

>>59799903
It's hard to fail, I switched out my wlan card the other day (which sits right next to it), took me under 5 min

>>59795365
warm soapy water, then toothbrush, then cleaning putty.

I never got it fully clean though

Hey guys I have a Yoga Pro 2
Recently the coating in the space between the keys has been getting scratched off
Anyone know of any coating to fix or anything similar?
Thanks

>>59800291
Thats what you get for buying anything besides
x/w/p/t series faggot.

>>59800291
Holy fuck, are they that bad? That's hilarious

>>59800291
go fuck your mother to death cancer weebo underage shit

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redpill me on the dell e6440.

apparently, it's the only haswell business laptop with a socketed cpu and newer versions can use a fhd ips panels.

is it the secret goat? considering the x40 and x50 series were trash

New thread:
>>59800603

>>59800461
>>59800449
>>59800449
>>59800447
are u guys okay?

>>59796241
There exist blueprints for 3d-printable sd card holders you can use to physically store sd cards in them.