>2017 >not using Debian as your primary OS what's

>>59759330
I do you fucking nigger now leave me alone

Because fedora is better for me in every way.

Still I don't have any distribution installed currently. I just don't have the time anymore. I can't google for hours until I fix a problem if one occurs and it lacks my entertainment life. I used to have time several years ago and it's fun to mess with. I ran multiple game servers on a vps. But now I finished my school and I have a job that takes 10 hours of my day with two hours minimum for traveling. I'm in a serious relationship and I'm having a baby next month on the 4th. I just don't have time anymore and when I do have time I'd rather play games with my friends without compatibility issues nor worse frames in the games I do play.

Sorry but unitonically I grew up so I don't have time anymore.

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>>59759375
>Because fedora is better for me in every way.


>Still I don't have any distribution installed currently. I just don't have the time anymore. I can't google for hours until I fix a problem if one occurs and it lacks my entertainment life. I used to have time several years ago and it's fun to mess with. I ran multiple game servers on a vps. But now I finished my school and I have a job that takes 10 hours of my day with two hours minimum for traveling. I'm in a serious relationship and I'm having a baby next month on the 4th. I just don't have time anymore and when I do have time I'd rather play games with my friends without compatibility issues nor worse frames in the games I do play.

>Sorry but unitonically I grew up so I don't have time anymore.

>systemd

>>59759330
Systemd
Community is cancer
Spaghetti package dependecy hell
Overrun by SJWs

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>>59759330
i do tho. getting some ram and an ssd soon. gonna be comfy af.

>>59759684
>>>/r/unixporn

>>59759684
This. Everything but the 'systemd is bad' meme

>>59759684
>community is cancer

why?

>>59759330
I prefer OS X and OpenBSD

Debian is best


IS BEST

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>>59759330
>not using Debian as your primary OS

Do you think I am dumb? Of course I'm using Debian as my primary OS.

>>59759330
What gnu/linux options are there that don't use systemd?
I'm a debian guy but drink /g/'s flavoraid and now I hate systemd

>>59760073
There's that Devuan distro (fork of Debian without systemd). Some other choices would Gentoo or Void linux. I believe Manjaro supports OpenRC.

>>59759659
>not systemd

>>59760096
>binary logs

>>59760116
>brainlet thinks binary logging isn't useful
This is very shocking. :^)

>>59760222
>binary logs should be the default
lel

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>>59760238
>The most efficient option shouldn't be a default option.

>>59759330
>Literally use sid as my main os
It's not bad

>>59760265
>forcing users to use your own crappy tool to read logs by default

>>59760280
Lmao, that was uncalled for, nobody is FORCING you to install anything.

>>59759330
>2017
>still using Virign Beta Version code
Get a load of this pleb

>>59759341
is your country white ?
are you as white as an Argentine ?

>>59759375
jesus christ get a blog

>>59759375
>relationship
>in
jej

>>59760511
Jesus Christ get a gf

>>59760320
That's rape m8

>>59759330
Because it fucking sucks dick for desktop use and it makes all my videos look like shit. You faggots meme that Arch sucks and breaks constantly but I don't see why you would use anything else for your personal system, it does what I want it to better than the stable distros like Debian. No screen tearing, no stuttering, it's as good as Windows video playback.

I use it for server, but I can't imagine using it as desktop over openSUSE.

>tfw I can't get GNOME to work

I'm bored with MATE, and Cinnamon is buggy.

>>59760490
Argentine is white, it literally translates as "White country for white people. No niggers allowed and will be shot on sight.".

>>59759330
Fedora exists.

>>59760921
Have you tried using sid or stretch? It's a rolling release

Using Arch

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>>59761176

>>59761159
That's what I was using, and it still just didn't play nice with my hardware.

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>>59759330
fedora is better

>>59760222
>using the smiley with the carat nose

>>59761045
t. Der Chicanen

>>59761225
you know shit about programming
go back to ubuntu 1.6.7

>>59759330
linux mint 18.1 64-bit cinnamon flavor is mine

>>59759330
I have a AMD Radeon graphics card which may be not supported by Ubuntu 16.04.
What should I do? Will upgrading to Ubuntu 16.10 or downgrading to 14.04 solve the issue? If yes, will it work as good as the graphics card works on Windows? Also will have to configure my computer or will the system work perfectly after upgrading or downgrading?

Am I damaging my computer by not using a OS supporting the graphics card?
Also my laptop takes like ~50 seconds to boot? Is that because of the incompatible graphics card?

>>59761260
>programming
Sorry autismo, I have a real job, I'm proud of not being a programmer. I just use my computer a lot, and Debian doesn't work the way I want it to. So I use Arch.

>>59760921
Plebian : the post

>>59759330
I like Windows 10 and Fedora better.

>>59761273
being a NEET doesn´t count as a real job,
You ain't fooling no one , Ahmed

>>59759330

>debian

No thanks!

>>59761270
I use Debian with an AMD Radeon 6800. No prob. Tried Ubuntu 16.04 but that shit wouldn't work with my graphic card.

>>59761306
>mad

>>59761333
whatever helps you to sleep better , Jose
you have to go back

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>>59761354

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>>59761273

>>59761315
I thought that Ubuntu had the widest support out of all Linux distributions because of sheer popularity of it.

>>59759330

Because I use Windows.

>>59759659
>>systemd
Devuan

>>59759330
Pacman > anything else.

>>59759330
apt is fucking retarded

>>59762182
>not using aptitude

>>59761216
not an argument

I use arch for the AUR, makes it super easy to install my shit.

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pacman and the AUR, sorry and also fuck off with your SJW devs

>>59759330
laptop screen was dim. no brightness controls anywhere.

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>>59759330
I use bug free & patched Debian.

>>59759330
I like some updated software once in a while.

because debain is slow as fuck and barely works. i'd rather be an archfag.

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>>59763062

>>59762328
It also makes it super easy to break your shit, ya fuckin doofus.

>>59759330
>2017
>Still not using pure µkernel multiserver architecture.

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>>59762952
linux 3.10 you might better off be using bug free and patched picrelated.

>>59759330
Not a lesbian. Sorry.

>>59759330
Which desktop environment is best?

>>59759330
i use ubuntu because some tasks I'd rather do with a GUI.

>>59762952

noice.

>>59763430
>GUI

Faggot

>>59763413
KDE sounds nice. Too bad I can't find it for Mint 18.1.

>>59763413
i3

because I use a laptop

The way debian ensures stability makes sense for servers, but not for desktops, so desktop users tend to perceive it as just outdated, and no more stable than arch.

Debian decides a program is stable when it goes a long period of time without severe bugs. For this to be an accurate indicator of stability, a program has to be used by a lot of people for a long time.

Server users generally all use and rely on the same set of programs. Apache, nginx, sftp, ssh, the base system etc, and when something does break they're inclined to file a bug report ASAP because they either have no other options, or would have to do some serious migration to use another option, and they are very, VERY cooperative with bug reports on average. Because of this, server software on debian is well tested, well maintained, and generall reliable.

However, desktop users are not like that. They use a wider selection of software and genuinely need very little of it. When a desktop user runs into a problem they're more apt to just install an alternative program and hope that one works, and if that doesn't work, go up or down a few versions (and then say "sid/testing is stable!") or switch distros because /home was on its own partition. And why would they feel bad about not reporting a bug that can be solved by using a different program, or a different dsitro? "Debian is just shit, anyone who uses it deserves what they get!". So, desktop software often passes through debian's system basically untested and just as buggy as it used to be.

>>59759330
Because I use gentoo.

Debian Sid as my primary OS with unattended-upgrades every 6 hours.

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>>59759330
>what's your excuse pleb?

>>59761392
fake news

Because they fuck with all of the packages for no god damn reason other than they're full of themselves. They disabled the ability to use extensions in chromium for fucks sake.

autistic package maintainer fucking around with upstream just for the hell of it

>>59763413
bspwm because autism

>>59759330
Because I'm on Arch. Sometimes I wake up late at night and cry because I miss apt-get.

I found Arch :3

>>59759330

It's not easy to install it. And why aren't there flavor dvd images like xubuntu, kubuntu?

>>59765539
>apt-get
use /usr/bin/apt

systemd

Never thought I'd say this, but I switched from Linux to Windows Enterprise and I couldn't be more satisfied. I really wished I got rid of Linux a long time ago. Windows and macOS are the only systems of worth. Linux is just a programmer's tool and for servers. This is what it has become.

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>>59759330

>2017
>not using windows xp as your primary OS

what's your excuse pleb?

>>59759330
I use Ubuntu Gnome

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ubuntu gnome is the patrician choice

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>>59765643
>2017
>using windows XP
oh shit what are you doing?

>>59763202
>Using arch
>not being able to fix your shit
?

>>59765564
>not easy to install it
>step by step installation wizard that my grandma can follow

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>>59759330

>>59762952
>using a server OS for a home desktop
why?

I'm using FreeBSD as my primary OS

>>59768922
how the fuck does your 4chan look like that?

>>59769904
install gentoo

>>59759330
none, i use debian! le(s)bian to be precisely (lxde + debian)

>>59768922
>Packages: 2502
what the fuck are you doing

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>>59759330
>uses plebian
>calls us pleb

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I use Arch Linux
>mfw running pacman -Syu

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>not using Debian as your primary OS

But I am, though.

>>59770209
alias update='sudo apt update && sudo apt -y upgrade'

Works just fine.

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>>59770335

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I use Ubuntu GNOME. I used to use Debian as my main OS, but it just requires too much configuration with home folder encryption and fonts.

>>59759330
Because Ubuntu offers everything Debian does and more.

I'd kill myself too if I had to use a Distro with ancient packages.

>>59770360
If it is critical for you to have the bleeding edge, then Arch (or Debian unstable) might really be better.

But I am using debian and now that 9.0 is just around the corner theres literally no excuse
Upgraded to stretch last week, everything went better than expected and had 0 problems so far, even plasma 5 works gr8

>>59770469
I already am running arch
I mostly like it for the better package selection and the wiki

>>59759330
Because it offers nothing that makes it worth using over Ubuntu

>>59759684
>Systemd
SysVinit is supported for the next 3 years senpai

>Community is cancer
Elaborate

>Spaghetti package dependecy hell
Okay this happens rarely

>Overrun by SJWs

True but only matters if you're a dev

>>59759893
same

>>59760031
Exherbo > Gentoo/Funtoo > Debian/Ubuntu Minimal/Void > Arch > Fedora

>>59770449
>what is debian stretch
btw, it way more stable than any *buntu and/or arch

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>>59759375

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If Debian is so great explain this bullshit, I dare you.
http://vk5tu.livejournal.com/44539.html

>>59759330
The guy who made this killed himself. It's cursed.

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>>59773088
>actually fucking true
CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP.
holy shit

>>59759727
>leddit

>>59773267
It's for a completely different reason

>>59759330
but I do

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>>59759330
>pleb
>debian
>primary os

>>59759702
>1440x900
Absolutely disgusting

>>59759330
Dude lmao backports or compiling shit yourself if you want to use software less than like 18 fucking months old

>>59761392
I really don't get this meme that Arch is somehow broken or difficult to use. Being handicapped must be tough :(

>>59773691
You can't really say that without knowing the screen's size

>>59759845
Because dumb memesters can't imagine anything that is not on either extreme: SJW Heaven or pol/arch forums.

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>>59769721
I can host my home OS in a VM and use a laptop for shitposting.
GPU passthrough for home station/vidya.

CentOS is a mad solid base for actual work & everything else when you leverage it properly.

>>59759375
I hate to break it to you but I think you've already passed your prime in life. You should consider a painless method of ending your life now.

>>59759684
>Community is cancer
That's common in every single distro.

Because I use Ubuntu ;)

>>59777284
Debian is more cancer than most.

I swear every other day I run into bugs that has been reported 13+ years ago and still not fixed.

Because there are minimalists for whom it's a simple life and there are minimalists for whom it's a masochistic fetish. Making Debian work for the average user is strongly for the latter type. That's just not me.

>>59759330
why would i use something with a pms logo

>>59777537
You misspelled "arch".

Because arch is better


check em

>>59759330
Got a yoga 2 13, can't get the WiFi working. Only reason I'm on Ubuntu and not Debian.

>>59759330
don'y get me wrong its a good solid and stable os, but...

1. endorsed by sjw, muh white programmer privilege

2. package management is bad.

example: when installing hyperv-daemons package the hyper-v daemons wont work, because you have to write your own scritps which get input from the daemon and outputs dhcp and dns conf. pretty simple but why didn't packagers include those 2 simple scripts? according to documentation its the job of packager to include these scripts

..some parts of to OS seem too sloppy for me

i use debian at work as its the "standard there"

previos workplace had RHEL shit, and it was way better

i even replaced my home printserver and nfs with rhel and all my vm's run on rhel now

i'ts just way more solid for me at least

Isn't arch better ?

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>>59773267
guess debian isnt so stable

>>59759330
fucked up cdrecord pkging for all relevant software and distros for YEARS

Is debian good for shitty computers? I gotta a old one, I'm using win 10 and this shit is very slow...

Because I'm using Manjaro.

What you faggs think about Xubuntu XFCE?

>>59779581
It's a little gay.

>>59779581
It's great for watching your gay porn

>>59759330
Because it's based on the Linux kernel which is utter crap.

>>59762952
https://github.com/CentOS/CentOS-Dockerfiles/blob/master/wordpress/centos7/Dockerfile

>bugfree
>patched
>downloading arbitrary code over http and running it
Anon..

>>59759684
> systemd
> biggest community
> most packages
> so easy to use even SJWs are using it
> won't use because ego

>>59761216
> she's having an orgasm

arch haters btfo
including me

>>59765104
kek, well done

>>59765104
gonna file a search complaint and how offensive and debianphobic google is

>>59759330
>New millennium
>Not writing your own software in basic
>Using pc with more than 64kb of memory


Get good kid

I use Debian as my Windows 10 VM desktop host.

>>59770449
I wouldn't kill myself but would hate myself for having to fix something I use every day after an unstable update.

>>59762370
Can someone elaborate how SJWs have (supposedly) gotten their hands on Debian?

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>>59759330
>ring 3
>bloatware
Is this a question?

>>59759330
>outdated packages
>inane packaging despite better knowledge of the actual softwares devs
>logo is a warped brush of an unfree software
>bistro name is debian despite the fact that the name should be "" by now

Gotta play wow cos i fukin gay

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>>59780694
did you really just call fucking DEBIAN bloatware?