UNITY FAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH

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>>59754659
I3 master race.

>>59754659
What do you think the fork that takes over will be called?

>>59754848
GNOME 3

Reasons to use Ubuntu: U̶n̶i̶t̶y̶

Unity 8 is doa. Sad!

#MUGA

Reasons not to use Ubuntu: U̶n̶i̶t̶y̶

>>59754659
It is sad, the only usable, aesthetic and onvenient de is gone.

>>59755224
Are you being sarcastic?

>>59754659
Is it wrong to like the Unity interface?

why left unity behind?

KDE is the only DE that matter anyway.

>not using openbox
shiggy

>>59754659
That's actually really sad. I like Unity and Unity 8 was shaping up to be pretty sweet. Hopefully 18.04 won't just ship with default GNOME and they'll at least implement a global menu a la Unity.

>>59755241
No

>>59755278
>KDE
>mattering
>ever

That was funny

>>59754659
I am saving this for future reference

There are no UI kits or desktop environments on GNU Linux that make a system look consistent. Sad.

Make Ubuntu Great Again

But will Ubuntu have a filepicker?

Unity was nicer than gnome 2bh

Too bad, Gnome is even worse than Unity

>>59756381
>it's so hard to install matching QT and GTK themes
keep crying newfag

>>59755241
Incredibly

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>>59756574

>>59754659
While I didn't like unity, I still think this is bad news.
I loved that canonical threw money at real linux problems and when they fail, it seems like a lot of time and money is wasted.
I thought my next phone would be a ubuntu phone, now kde is more likely.
But they don't sell their own hardware.

>>59756502
Literally prescribing two UI kits to solve the problem of having to install multiple UI kits.
Nice meme

Unity looka way cooler than GNOME and the performance is pretty much the same, so fuck off shill

>>59756651
You realize that on Windows, you have the .net bullshit, gtk, and qt. So you have 3 different themes to maintain if you want consistency instead of 2.

>>59756737
>Unity looka way cooler than GNOME
macfag detected

>I unironically think it looks good to have a gigantic unremovable dock which gets it's aesthetics from fischer price

>>59756609
wtf i love unity now

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>>59756857
>calling other things fisher price when your application menu looks like this

>>59756958
It's not any worse than the application menu on Unity. The primary difference is that on Gnome everything gets the fuck out of your way when you are using the desktop.

>your application launcher
I use krunner in KDE

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>>59757042
>everything gets the fuck out of your way when you are using the desktop
>>59756609

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>>59754659

>>59757042
>The primary difference is that on Gnome everything gets the fuck out of your way when you are using the desktop
Like the xbox hueg titlebars?

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>>59755095
you can't be doa if you never arrive

>>59757080
but 420 dude

>>59756609
yeah, wtf gnome

>>59757114
Gnome devs are retarded, see >>59757080

>>59757061
>>59757084
No matter what DE I use, one of the first things I do is disable window decorations such as borders and the titlebar.

>>59757139
I use gnome3 unfortunately, there's a lot of things wrong with it, but the title-bar is the most obviously ugly and unnecessarily huge piece of shit.

I've used every other DE available and I've always loved how Unity handled title-bars

So then Mir is dead? That means Wayland wins.

>>59757080
soon to come to gnome

>>59757211
2017 year of the Linux desktop

>>59757161
Do you always press two buttons just to drag a window? I think the simple mouse button is enough for that, and window menus are still there.

>>59757080
Unity looks perfect, how the title-bar merges with the task-bar was one of the best things I've ever seen in any DE, absolutely brilliant design, thanks Canonical.

>implying Gnome isn't worse
how the mighty have fallen
anyone remember 8.04? the theme and the applications and ease of use? it shat on windows

>>59757277
I hope this is a good thing, since the developers arent chained by having to support legacy clients they are going to port unity to other distributions aswell, using modern apis.
I also hope there will be a standalone version for unity panel(and titlebars and menus integration) without the huge ass launcher, that pops up even on desktop expo(why even?).

>>59757277
>tfw I really like Unity 7
>dreaded the day Unity 8 would actually ship because it looked like trash
>now they're killing it off for even worse trash

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>>59757182
Gnome shell is flawed by design, plus the devs are pedantic faggots who won't ever listen to the community ideas.
>>59757277
It was really the best design i've seen.

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>>59757312
Yeah Unity was pretty good. Lazy bastards just don't want to deal with it anymore. Hopefully it gets forked into a more stable DE.

I mean doesn't mean I'm leaving cinnamon or MATE on my computers (or an arch base for that matter), but it is a bit distressing. GNOME devs are absolute fucks who would rather take everybody on the ruse cruise of refusing to keep their toolkits consistent.

Oh and add fucking thumbnails.

I bet if everyone started tweeting at canonical they would throw money at the GNOME devs and make them add proper thumbnail support

>>59757363
>throw money at the GNOME devs
>not throwing money to competent developers (KDE)

>>59757480
Ehhhhh can't say I'm into KDE as much as I used to be. I recently gave cinnamon a try and it's basically a GTK KDE imo, and I honestly like it a little more in terms of stability, performance, and just that I use more GTK applications so don't have to play the UI game.

I'm also not big on Dolphin's Ui since I feel like it wastes some space

>>59757363
gnome3 is not fucking developed anymore

>>59754659

>Replacing a GNOME 3 derivative with the master turd itself
Literally who cares, everyone jumped ship already

>>59757606
then why switch?

>>59757850
Canonical will most likely build unity using gnome shell as a basis, much like cinnamon.

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>>59754671
You know it, man

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FUUUUUUG Unity is master race-tier and Gnome is nigger-tier.

WTF are you thinking Ubuntu?

>>59758108
Why dont you like
/g/nome?

Man at least Unity runs fine. Gnome is a pain in the ass to customize, not much less than Unity, and has laggy animations.

>>59754671
this.

>>59755410
KDE 3 was really popular in the past and it still be the 2nd or 3rd most popular.

>We are stuck with garbage gtk and gnome
>If you want qt you have to use KDE
>No Unity 8

Welp, time to buy a mac.

>>59757480
>KDE Developers
>Competent
I would post a longer reply but KWin segfaulted

I just tried out Gnome 3 now and what a pile of dogshit it is. Conclusion: unity is better, faster, more polished. There is less unused space.

Any pics of what it's gonna look like?

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>>59754659

>use the shit gnome 3 + unity
>abandon unity
>still using the shit gnome 3

Whats the fuss about?

Also windows 10 master race and have fun with your half assed environment

>>59760660

Probably gnome but with a ubuntu-esque color scheme(and probably some tweaks).

>>59760702
But we're not using Windows 10

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>>59760723
>Uses GNOME classic mode by default with extensions installed for Unity esque title bars and dock

>Turns out not being much of a difference anyways and /g/ overplayed the effects again
>Because let's be honest Ubuntu Phone was never gonna work

>>59755241
Only on a moral level.

>>59758108

>implying unity is not running over the gnome 3

wew

>>59758108
pic related is me right now
the only way i could install nvidia drivers for gtx 1080 was through unity
tried ubuntugnome and had the generic purple screen/grey screen where you cant switch tty

>>59760349

>buy a mac
>shit DE
>shit lags on DE

wew my friend

>>59760834
>>shit DE
>>shit lags on DE

Yes, you can install GNOME 3 on a mac, but why would you do that?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpl6SO_zKls

>Unity 8 was already 80% functional
>they kill it

I WILL NEVER FORGIVE YOU SHITTLEWORTH

>>59760859
Is he our /Todd Howard/?

>>59760878
/v/ermin don't get to decide

what do i switch to that has support for nvidia gtx 1080? tried fedora 25 and ubuntugnome 16.10 and couldnt get past the grey screen
my install process is
1. take 1080 out, switch mobo to IGP
2. install os in IGP mode where it doesnt even know about the 1080 and doesnt activate nouvaeu
3. install cuda 8 which installs latest drivers
4. shutdown, plug in 1080, switch to gpu, boot

so far this only worked with ubuntu 16.04 unity but im willing to mess with other distros if they can make it work

>>59760899
But I am from /jp/.

>>59760859
Wow, unity 8 would've been dope, even comfier than current unity.

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>unity = crap
>gnome = crap
>kde = bugs
>xfce = screen tearing
>mate = windows 95
>cinnamon = just a shit gnome 3
>i3, bspwm, awesome, etc = much complicated
>go to mac
>shit DE
>lags and more lags on interface
>go to windows
>reboot and more reboots for install a update
>candy crush and other shits on start menu
>inconsistency everywhere

We desktop users are literally fucked!

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>>59760859
Well... It was highly dependent on mir, which is a piece of shit.

>>59760940
The is budgie which will be using QT soon and the developer is really passionate about the project, also it has a sane interface.

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>>59754659
>a future without ubuntu
>sjws destroy debian
>gnu/linux become systemd/fedora

>>59760940
>inconsistency everywhere
Literally this. There is not a single consistent looking desktop environment on any system. I understand that on linux there are different groups of people with different views on the user interface, but on ms windows and macs it is just ridiculous? They get paid for that shit ffs...

>>59760940
>mate = windows 95
>Wish we could turn back time
>To the good old days

>>59755326
>Shiggy
Is it 2014 again?

>>59755326
>using gimped piece of crap
diggity-doo

Wish someone competent could pick this up

>>59761033
>competent
This is a rare thing today. Even rarer than people with money.

>>59760992
>There is not a single consistent looking desktop environment on any system.

Budgie when it's done being ported to qt.

>>59755410
Enjoy your retard devs who keep removing features and refuse to add basic functionality like a fucking thumbnail view in the file picker.

>Unity is finally usable and stable
>lel lets drop it and use SWJnome with its amazing maps and cooking apps instead

Go fuck yourself canonical, seriously, go fuck yourself.

>>59761076
Enjoy the most bloated desktop ever created.

/g/ loved to hate on Unity and now that it's going away it's hot shit? let's get real: Unity ONLY worked on Ubuntu. Mir was ONLY for Ubuntu. By switching to GNOME they are bringing the community together again.

By the way, Ars Technica called Fedora 25 with GNOME the best Linux distro of the year:

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/12/fedora-25-review-the-best-linux-distro-of-2016-arrived-at-the-last-moment/

I personally can't wait for Unity to die.

>>59760960

From your lips to God’s ears, anon. From your lips to God’s ears.

>>59761106
this

>>59761108
This a better option than the gnome 3.

>arstechnica
Pay shill.

>>59757881
can I get your colorscheme?

>>59761141
your a shill

>>59761182
You are a shill of the shills.

Feels good to be a GNOMEfag
Eagerly awaiting all the butthurt comments from people who call GNOME a Fisher-Price DE yet are simultaneously too stupid to use it.

>>59761212
Unity is just a polished version of gnome. Both are shit, but gnome is a bigger pile of shit.

Mate is the only right answer tbqh

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>>59761212
Feels good to be a GNOMEfag
Using a tablet interface in my 27" monitor
Hovering my mouse to the top left (and back again) everytime i switch programs
Wasting precious screen space with retarded title bars
Using 300 extensions to get an usable desktop.

>>59761259
>mate
>TWO taskbars
And you people call gnome a waste of space

>>59761292
>I'm too retarded to edit panels

Stick with gnome, I think it's for the best

>>59754659
GNOME is pure cancer

>>59761292
This is for "productivity".

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Unity will never look this good.

>>59761279
>Using a tablet interface in my 27" monitor
Just because GNOME actually looks like it belongs in the year 2017 doesn't mean it's a "tablet interface"
>Hovering my mouse to the top left (and back again) everytime i switch programs
Literally every taskbar-based DE requires you move your mouse to the edge of the screen to change programs. GNOME is actually superior in this regard because you can press Super to access the overview and keep your mouse in the center of the screen.
>Wasting precious screen space with retarded title bars
Native gnome apps save space. If other devs don't want to follow that example that's their fault.
>Using 300 extensions to get an usable desktop.
Vanilla Gnome is perfectly usable. Just because it's not another Windows 95 clone doesn't mean it's not usable. I myself have very few extensions that aren't aesthetic.

GNOME IDE

I hope this means the Ubuntu devs will bring the good ideas of unity into gnome, and whip the gnome devs back into shape and deal with their retardation

>>59761380
That is supposed to look good?

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>>59761382
- Unnecessary Activities menu makes launching programs and switching between them slower.
- The desktop being demoted from a work area (primary way of launching most used applications) to a picture. (Default settings)
- Task bar demoted to being a list instead of providing fast and easy to use task switching features.
- Big UI with big empty spaces instead of making use of modern, high-resolution displays and using space effectively. (Thick title bars, giant buttons etc.)

Literally mobile os, are you retarded? go back to /pol.

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>>59761396
yeah

>>59756769
Good job being fucking retarded.
It's taken care of for you. You don't have to mess around with themes at all to get the different ui kits on windows looking the same.

>>59761410
It doesn't. It looks like some shitty iPad ripoff

>>59761382
>Literally every taskbar-based DE requires you move your mouse to the edge of the screen to change programs. GNOME is actually superior in this regard because you can press Super to access the overview and keep your mouse in the center of the screen.

No it isn't superior, it's retarded, in any sane interface i can just click in the program i wanna use.

>>59761391
Probably what will happen.

>>59761432
Won't happen, gnome devs will just say NO.

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>>59761427
Apple is the gold standard of UI design. You're actually complimenting GNOME. Thank you.

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What's so bad about the single taskbar, menu icon / window list / indicator icons / clock standard? How deep is the penetration of touch screens in desktops and laptops, and what percentage of people actually use the touchscreen for any significant amount of time?

>>59761404
>Unnecessary Activities menu makes launching programs and switching between them slower.
Super + Type first few letters of program's name + Enter
Literally takes less than a second
>The desktop being demoted from a work area (primary way of launching most used applications) to a picture. (Default settings)
Like I said, it's not a Windows clone. You can even make it work like a traditional desktop if you want to.
>Task bar demoted to being a list instead of providing fast and easy to use task switching features.
Again, Super for task switching. It's even faster than a task bar because you don't have to move your mouse to the edge of the screen.
>Big UI with big empty spaces instead of making use of modern, high-resolution displays and using space effectively. (Thick title bars, giant buttons etc.)
https://blogs.gnome.org/aday/2014/08/27/gnome-design-saving-you-space-since-2009-or-so/

Modern OS != Mobile OS

>>59761430
>in any sane interface i can just click in the program i wanna use.
Sounds like it's you who wants a tablet os

It sounds like, from Shuttleworth's blog post, that it's a cost cutting measure. They can probably let go of most of the people who were involved in UI development.

If there is anyone out there who actually likes Unity, it could always become a real open source project.

>>59761481
Have you ever seen the fedora introduction to gnome shell? It tells you to hover your mouse in the top left corner to switch between programs, it's really inefficient.

And new people are just going to use that way, which is cancer.

>>59761503
No, i don't want gnome 3.

>>59761442
>saying no to Shuttleworth's dollar cock that is Ubuntu

Ubuntu (with Unity) is supposed to be the Linux distro for everyone to use. Gnome is not usable. The average person (like me) will install Ubuntu, see Gnome, and not understand how to use it. "Oh, and I can't see what windows I have open or maximize/minimize them ... that's nice."

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Read the news in Las Vegas tomorrow about my suicide. There is literally no reason to live without Unity. Goodbye.

>>59761536
Hopefully they will modify the gnome shell codebase and build unity on top of that, as it is gnome shell is unusable.

>>59761581
>The average person (like me) will install Ubuntu, see Gnome, and not understand how to use it. "Oh, and I can't see what windows I have open or maximize/minimize them ... that's nice."

Oh i can switch between programs hovering my mouse into the top left corner every single time? Which is a pain in the ass? A-W-E-S-O-M-E.

>>59761566
The whole reason Unity even existed in the first place was because the Gnome developers didn't like the changes Canonical was pushing (like appindicators) and refused to accept them.

>>59761481
>Modern OS != Mobile OS
Then:

Modern OS = Retarded OS

>>59755241
Is it wrong to be gay?

>>59754659
Wait, why? Didn't they just spend like a year developing the 'new' unity? It does look like absolute fucking shit to be fair, feel embarrassed to have donated money to these tards in the past.

>>59761607
there's an extension that's officially supported by the GNOME developers that gives you a Windows-style taskbar at the bottom of your screen, I would bet money that Canonical will enable that by default

>>59761633
The whole concept behind the new Unity was that it would run on the Ubuntu phone as well.

They're tired of pissing away money on projects that have no future. Who knows how many millions Canonical wasted on Mir, Unity, and Ubuntu phone.

>>59761643
It's an extension, which just confirms what i said: Gnome is unusable without extensions. If you are using gnome now i bet 1 bitcoin you are running more than 2 extensions.

>>59761660
this, they are really doing well in cloud with amazon, servers and snappy.
They should focus on a great desktop to push that even more.
the problem is that gnome is useless and broken by design,
Hope they go the cinnamon way and fix it.

So how big of an endeavor would it be to get a universal title bar on Gnome 3?

>>59754659
Whether you like Unity or hate it, I'm pretty sure everyone is glad Mir is finally dead

>>59761664
Gnome shell is a joke.
see
>>59757080

>>59754659
Lol I see MIR being replaced by Wayland soon

why was ubuntu shipping with an engine for making video games?

>>59755241
Yes

Honestly, I don't know which one is worse, gnome or unity.
They both suck.

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2018 Year of Linux on DesktoPFFHAHAHAHAHAH

>>59763499
Not that I really care about the "Year of the Linux Desktop", but long term, this is actually a good thing in that front.
It killed Mir for us.

>>59754659
So, I see you're running GNOME...

>>59757277
You mean "brilliant design, thanks Apple"

Why do distros keep pushing the Garbage ToolKit?

What's wrong with qt/kde?

>muh GNU

But why?
It was so perfect, no more time wasting in customization faggotery. Just getting to work in comfy desktop.

Serious question
Why are there no modern DE's built with GNUstep?
Why do we have only Qt and GTK+?
Granted GNUstep might take forever to support Wayland, but why did it not become popular in the first place?

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>>59761380
Pavel?

>>59754659
I hope they resume their patching GNOME, like typeahead for Nautilus/GTK+... GNOME is so fucking shit without heavy patching

>>59754659
It's cuz tablets ended up being a meme and nobody installs ubuntu on their phone.

>>59757879
Unity was already just a GNOME skin, with Mir support instead of Wayland
Unity is closer to GNOME than Cinnamon is.
No, they are going hardcore GNOME bro
>>59757606
It is still developed what are you talking about?

>>59761412
Ever seen Deluge on windows?

Fuck GTK looks bad on windows.

>if we can't make unity 8 as stable as unity 7 we won't use it by default on the next ubuntu LTS
Unity was shit compared to other DE because of the stability. Compiz was a piece of shit.

>>59760918
unironically install Gentoo

Does that mean they'll use wayland and systemd as well?

Canonical were fucking stupid. Instead of using what already exist, and contribute to those things, they always tried to created their own stuff and always failed to make them good enough.
Shuttleworth is saying people didn't appreciate their work seeing all that as fragmentation instead of innovation, but there were no innovation on their stuff.
>mir
Wayland existed when they started it and it had the functionalities canonical needed (mainly it was for ubuntu touch iirc)
>unity
I'm at work right now, but I can make xfce looks like unity, while taking less resources (bar on the left, menu on the top right, a shitty bar on the top and the windows title bar hidden)
And everything you could do with unity could be made with gnome using extensions or whatever.
And with the time this shit became less stable imo. I tried ubuntu 16.04 and had a "a problem occured, send a report to canonical?" every 5 minutes.


Ubuntu phone was something interesting. I had one and got to say the UI was great, it was fast and the battery life was way better than in android. There were too many bugs tho, and it was annoying and within the time they preferred to add shitty features instead of fixing their shit.

I'm glad they failed at everything. It will result in less fragmentation and things will be able to go on.

>>59764033
make linux hard again

>GNOME is great just install 10 obscure extensions that break with every update and write your own js/css to further personalize it until it looks and works as good as a KDE install that has only undergone point and click customization
>we made it workable for a reason! if you disagree with our design decisions you can change them, easy!
If I wanted to customize shit I'd use a programmer's WM like awesome or sawfish and install what I needed as I needed it.

DEs are supposed to just werk for the average user, not sorta werk for a hipster autist into "new paradigms of desktop interaction"

>>59761382
>>Wasting precious screen space with retarded title bars
>Native gnome apps save space. If other devs don't want to follow that example that's their fault.
What are these native gnome apps I keep hearing about all the time? Never seen one.
>file manager
the native one is a file picker widget at best. So it's dolphin or thunar
>browser
the native one is a nice facebook browser, but forget using it for anything serously, so firefox (or chropera) it is.
>terminal
the native one actually does what it is supposed to, but funny enough, it does not have a native title bar
>editor
Gedit is a joke, so use anything else, tiltlebar hell
>office
same
Shall I go on?

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>>59755241
Not if you are a faggot.

>>59754671
why not xmonad?

>>59754671
Same here. Sway is also coming along nicely.

>>59764312
unironically using unity for all these years. like a fist in your ass for years.

Honestly, this is a sensible move from them. Ubuntu on the desktop would have never made any money. On the server, I can see them having success, a lot of people use Ubuntu Server as their go to.

Sucks for the three people that liked Unity.

Fuck Gnome

>>59764660
Oh, Unity is BTFO now?
I guess I have to defend it. After all, if I didn't contradict the majority, I may as well kill myself.

When is this shit going to stop? If even Canonical themselves can't bear to use this piece of shit UI anymore, certainly the end-user is wise enough to have figured that out.

>>59764686
>If even Canonical themselves can't bear to use this piece of shit UI anymore
I remember a Canonical ad where they showed their offices and nobody even used Ubuntu.

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Unity was persistently buggy because it required Canonical to fuck around with gtk libs with their incompetence.

GNOME is piece of shit where everything is fuckhueg (titlebars alone are like 6 inches) and retarded for customization.

KDE exists and does almost everything right currently as well as has best applications (GNOME still doesn't have a goddamn MS Paint replacement and its picture viewer can't crop and resize holy fuck what the hell man it's been 20 years). I can't stand other desktops than LXDE and KDE anymore.

Gnome looks like shit compared to Unity, desu.

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>>59764605
Sway confirmed for coziest future facing WM.

At that point, why not just use Debian with GNOME?

>>59764686
>When is this shit going to stop?
When gnome and gtk aren't cancer, so probably never. The shittines of gnome 3 lead to creation of unity, mate, cinnamon, budgie, etc. Ubuntu returning to gnome 3 won't make things any better.

THUMBNAILS
FUCKING
WHERE

MERGE THE SOLUTION ALREADY YOU STUPID GNOME DEVS
THIS IS JUST EMBARRASSING AT THIS POINT

>>59764762
You don't need thumbnails, just drag'n'drop from nautilus! We at Gnome know what is better for you!

>>59764731
I like Sway, but if it wants to get more popular, it has to implement like, some fucking menu sliders, a fully integrated graphical settings panel or whatever instead of editing a huge config file and running commands.

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>>59754659
>use Unity for years because usability wise it's the best and most stable DE
>decide to try Gnome for the first time in years a few days ago
>it's still buggy, slow, unstable and completely unusable garbage in general
>Canonical now decides to kill off Unity
>in favor of fucking Gnome
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>59754659
They shot themselves in the foot with that Amazon botnet PR mess

Plus I hate Unity anyway, feels like using babbies first computer, good riddance

>>59757209
Yeah, Mir is kill

>>59760924
/jp/ is the only board not infested by reddit why would you come here

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>mfw the only way Gnome Shell doesn't annoyingly get in your way is by completely hiding the top bar and replacing the Activities menu with a normal dropdown menu
>even then the window title bars are annoyingly huge and consume half of your vertical screen space
>have to manually shrink the regular window bars in CSS
>can't shrink those bullshit combined GTK3 bars
>mfw you have to literally replace all of Gnome to make Gnome usable

Why are all the popular Linux desktop environments shit?

>>59764925
>can't shrink GTK3 bars.

But you're wrong

>>59764935
KDE is good and contrary to popular believe it's actually extremely fast.

>>59764948
>implying

>>59760940
MATE is a bugfest specially when coupled with Ubuntu repos
And it's not quite consistent nowadays, also, GTK3
Budgie seriously looks like the only sane choice in the future, along with just setting up everything yourself and using a tiling wm or CDE/WindowMaker/OpenBox
Maybe lxqt will shape up to be decent, but the Lubuntu team can't fix the clusterfuck that Ubuntu packages are and delayed it again

>>59760972
I wish I saved the CoreOS posts some anon made when the Debian systemd debacle happened
I use Ubuntu and some component of systemd crashes at least once a week

>>59764777
Nautilus IS what you should be using, though IF you are using Gnome.

In the age of 1080p widescreen, it is no longer necessary to cram tiny little 32x32 icons onto a desktop, have a thin little taskbar, etc.
When the screen gets huge, everything else needs to grow accordingly or else your eyes will strain, there's too much information at once, and your brain slows down.

>>59761115
The Gnome team has proved that they are the assholes that broke the community, and they're willing to shit on everything nowadays
Ars is retarded my senpai
>>59761566
The blog post implies that their efforts will move to their cloud products, I doubt the Gnome team will see any money, they might not even get Shuttleworth telling them to do something not total shit

>>59764762
There's a patch waiting to be merged?

>>59764991
We're talking about thumbnails in file-picker dialogues.

>>59764036
Étoile is built on GNUStep iirc

>>59761412
>taken care of for you

By which you mean your shit never matches.

>>59756609
>nice clean and compact
yeah and when was this added?
after more than 5 years of forcing everyone to go back and forth to the top for a menu
and when menu option was added to window/s
>OMG
>biggest news of the month

>>59757080

>1366x768
kys

Will there be thumbnails in the file picker?

>>59765291
No, thumbnails are haram, qt kafirs need not apply.

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>>59765306

>>59765291
No. Just drag and drop from GNOME Files.

>>59757363
>throw money at the GNOME devs
sorry. i don't want my money going to support sjws and / or feminists
reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/22zaa3/the_gnome_foundation_spent_all_their_money_on/

>>59754671
ryzen master race

>>59765332
>reddit is great when it shares my misogynist views

First Apple being open and transparent about FUTURE product plans and even apologising for being shit lately, and now this. Has Hell finally frozen over or something?

>>59765363
Cucks are taking control.

>>59765363
Tim Cuck finally noticed the drawing in the wall and it's trying to not be the company that bursts the tech bubble

>>59760827
Same here with gtx1050 on on the xps15, both Gnome and Cinnamon BTOFd when using nvidia-375 + nvidia-prime.
Unity is still buggy but at least it's usable

Imagine if Ubuntu made MATE default with the 8.04 hardy heron theme

>>59756609
the unified titlebar caused me more trouble than utility when I used it. good example of a feature that sounds nice on paper but is just terrible

>thumbnails

Someone claiming to be compiling GNOME stuff on one of Sir Rossmann's streams last night claimed this over-decade-old issue is finally fixed. Could have just been a troll, of course, but given how Hell is freezing over lately.... who knows....

>>59765351
dont change the subject
>and go back

>>59765455
there has been a patch for a while now from someone on github
>does gnome devs' job for them
>gnome devs refuse to use it

>>59760940
>all DEs are shit, Unity was the only usable one
>We desktop users are literally fucked!
You didn't use any of those DEs and are just repeating /g/ memes, please die in a fire.

shuttleworht just realised they wont ship a working mir ubuntu so he plays his im not apreciated move and switches to gnome for wayland

>>59765291
Dolphin

>>59760992
>. There is not a single consistent looking desktop environment on any system.
Vista is the most consistent OS UX design but the designer isn't around anymore.

>>59754659
This is great!
I fucking hate screen real estate, it's not like I want to see what I'm working on anyway.

Going from Unity to Gnome 3 is like going from a polished turd to a puddle of freshly produced diarrhea.

Calling it: a few years from now, /g/ will say unity was glorious and how Ubuntu went from being best to worst distro after when ditched it.

>>59754671
>not ratpoison
>2 megs of bloat
>fucking why

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Why is gnome 3 the golden standard of the linux desktop all of a sudden?

>>59766133
Well I never really hated Unity's design or theme just how it was forked from an ancient version of GNOME and required Mir which may as well have been proprietary. I think switching to GNOME3 gives them the ability to essentially rewrite Unity using modern code that utilizes free standards like Wayland.

I'm looking forward to an improved Unity, hopefully they don't completely abandon the design.

>>59765455
There have been dozens of patches to fix the issue since 8 years ago or so, maybe some of them date back to 2007 or earlier
Most of them eventually went unsupported and were forgotten, since the Gnome devs give zero fucks about users and have never supported any of them

>>59763977
But anon, Apple has it in a retarded global bar.
>not having a separate bar for each application, merging it with its titlebar.

>>59754659
Ubuntu on suicide watch. GNOME is the biggest pile of trash out there

>>59754671
As a unity user, i still prefer i3

>>59766577
Because it's actually solid and normie friendly. They still have to trim some of the fat though.

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>try using debian with gnome3 a year or so ago on my laptop
>cant do it, gotta go gnome classic
>install xubuntu after a while anyway

>just installed ubuntu on main computer after win7
>unity is maximum comfy

they making a mistake here

>>59754659

This means KDE is dead, all the big distros are GNOME or GNOME based.

KDE suicide watch.

>>59757480

>Calling competent to the developers that created Baloo and Activities.

GTFO.

I can only welcome this desition. GNOME is awesome.

>>59754659
Gnome 3 Sucks

>>59767395
What a fantastic argument you just presented... try presenting some actual substance next time.

>>59767247
What do you mean?

>>59761106
this. when 16.04 fades out and there is no unity-fork, i'm done with ubuntu.

>>59761474
Literally nothing is bad about that. Hence why nobody above the age of 8 actually uses Gnome or Unity, and instead use xfce, cinnamon, mate, lxde, etc.

is i3 good for old low res laptops ?

>>59761106
Development has been stagnant for years on it. Also, it depends on Compiz which, again, has been stagnant for years.

It's a dead project. Move on.

>>59755278
Bloatware

>>59757209
nvidia and amd wont support wayland with proprietary drivers so have fun with the useless open source drivers!

>>59767627
You can use NVIDIA's drivers on Wayland in GNOME 3.24

>>59760941
wayland is a turd that nvidia and amd wont support with proprietary drivers

>>59767627
AMD already supports wayland. Their proprietary kernel module wont because they're not supporting it anymore but AMD shifted all of their devs on the open source drivers. Nvidia's proprietary drivers didn't support it but I believe they do now.

>>59754659
Meet the new shit
>Gnome
Same as the old shit
>Unity

>>59754659
Going back to Windows 10

>>59768135
shill

>>59754659

>Ubuntu now with more screen real-estate.

Still not interested in that pile of dog shitte.

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Can someone explain to me why gnome is good? It seems like the worst de by far, but everyone is using it.

I want to like it, I want to understand, /g/.

>>59769374
>gnome is good
no, see
>>59756609
>>59756958
>>59757080

>>59769374
I hated GNOME when I first tried it but switched over to Fedora with the release of F24 and have been loving both the distro and DE.

GNOME doesn't have that cobbled together feel that other DEs have. Everything feels a lot more integrated and polished. There was thought behind every decision and it makes a point of being distraction-free. Notifications, online account integration, the lockscreen and the like make it feel very modern. The stock apps do exactly what they need to do and nothing more (which is a con) look and work great in GNOME.

A big problem people have with GNOME is that the designers' envisioned workflow won't work for everyone. In that case, there's extensions for everything and all-in-ones like Dash to Dock and Dash to Panel give you more familiar workflows. Install extensions and just make it your own. Shelltile and panel workspace scroll alone makes GNOME the best DE IMO.

People hate on GNOME without giving it a fair chance. The biggest issue is that anything outside of GNOME's stock apps clashes badly with the desktop: Pantheon has the same issue. This is where the wasted vertical space comes from. Any program that wasn't basically made for GNOME, following its design cues and making use of the admittedly half-assed global menu takes up too much space with having a hugeass titlebar on top of a menubar.

A lot of the GNOME hate is just memes and luddites. Try it yourself.

>>59761589
Do a flip

>>59767598
Only if you're a RAMlet

>>59769374
>why gnome is good
It's not. It has managed to stay relevant mostly because of Red Hat's market presence rather than its own merits, but any sane "GNOME" desktop user should be running Cinnamon or MATE instead.

>>59754671
ma nigga

>>59765332
what the fuck