Is Ubuntu kill?

>>59753903
Unity is and always has been a piece of fucking trash. Good riddance.

>>59753903
Y E A R
O F
T H E
L I N U X

Reeeeeeee, I don't like change.

Then again I guess it's nice that this probably kills Mir and we can all go Wayland.

>>59753903
must've realized that ubuntu phone had no chance of ever fucking happening and he doesn't want to spend more money on maintaining their own special snowflake desktop environment
I suppose it's the best thing they can do

>>59753903

>not using Plasma 5

cucks

>>59753903
So when I'm on Ubuntu will I be able to move my mouse to the upper left hand corner and see all my applications running?

Cus thats the best part of Fedora

>>59753903
Gnome 3 is almost as bad as Unity, unless they ship it with dash to dock and various other extensions preinstalled.

Bummer. I actually liked Unity and couldn't stand GNOME.

It's probably easier to make GNOME3 behave the way they want than it is to make Unity8 not shit.

>>59754035
dash to dock is old news, dash to panel is where it's at.

Good. I wish Canonical stopped with this Apple-like NIH syndrome.

>>59753903
>Wow.
>This post will be updated as I sup my coffee and resolve the shock.
Is it so hard to write in a neutral tone without adding your own goddamn comments everywhere?

>>59754045
the entire point is that they'll use a shell that already exists
they don't want to work in the desktop, they want to focus on servers

This is amazing news, it means that Red Hat and Canonical will be joining efforts on making GNOME the best Linux desktop.

Unity 8 looked really cool but this is going to hello the linux ecosystem so much.

I'm starting to get a free software boner.

>>59754073
welcome to 2017

>>59754078
you're a dumbass if you don't think this means that GNOME will get more development.

>>59754017
You mean a hidden task bar? Ubuntu has that.

>>59754111
isn't that shit broken on ubuntu

>>59754100
>https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/04/05/growing-ubuntu-for-cloud-and-iot-rather-than-phone-and-convergence/
>Growing Ubuntu for Cloud and IoT
maybe, but that isn't the reason for this

>>59753903
So Ubuntu will become just another distro....

>>59753903
good
maybe ubuntu will be usable again

>>59753903
>is Ubuntu kill

Anything but. They're making more money than they ever were off of cloud software and are investing more time in making Ubuntu the best server OS instead of the best desktop OS

>>59754119
Well duh. Not only will they help on the desktop, but they're going to be able to focus more on stability and performance, which is already top-notch.

Go away shill

>>59754119
IOT is big for the server market, and they've been losing marketshare of that for a while now.

Why not do it like Firefox does and make unity look like GNOME?

>>59753903
I can't say I'm particularly sad that Unity will be gone but the fact that they're letting someone else develop their DE combined with the fact that they're also dropping Ubuntu Phone makes it obvious that they're in some kind of financial trouble. I could care more though because I won't get into any other Ubuntu flavor soon. I'm completely satisfies with Ubuntu MATE.

>>59754148
why the fuck would I be a shill?

>>59753967
No, It's better than any de with some tuning.

>>59754164
why make a gnome copycat when they can just adopt the entire thing

>>59753903

Just Unity is kill, not Ubuntu

using systemd
using a desktop environment

>>59754166
or they stopped being retards and realized that all the shit they were developing alone was never going to have an ounce of usefulness

I'm actually interested in a non-antiquated stable and easy to use distro. Debian doesn't have some things I need.

>>59754194
meme arrows without the arrows

>>59754176
>t. Someone who's never used cinnamon

Does it mean that MIR is dead?!
Will snap die too?

Does this mean 17.04 won't ship with unity8?

>>59754118
I'm using it right now, I have a hidden taskbar on left side of screen, when I move mouse to left edge of screen it pops out.

>>59754237

Only Mir and Unity. Snap will be continued and is the center of Canonical's focus now with IOT.

I don't know how it will work out for Ubuntu but It sounds like a sane change.
Not having to maintain Unity frees up a lot of money and resources for Canonical.
And we won't have to deal with even more fragmentation between Mir and Wayland.


>>59754100
GNOME3 has already reached end of development.
3.22 was the final major release of Gnome3/gtk3 and gnome devs already work on gnome 4.

>>59754237
Do you have a legit criticism of snaps or are you one of those muh lisp guys that hates things that are easy?

>>59754214
Cinnamon is slow and ugly
MATE is ugly and deprecated
GNOME is shit and bloated
KDE is on life support
Only Xfce reigns

Kneel down to your new rat overlords

>>59754237
Just today some devs were blogging about Xmir and shit, it must been a shock to them
http://gould.cx/ted/blog/2017/04/05/X11-apps-on-Ubuntu-Personal/

There is already a GNOME version of Ubuntu, so I expect a merger.
>>59754243
17.04 will ship with Unity7
>>59754237
Mir is probably dead
Snap isn't

>>59754260
i really wish they would add a taskbar or at least a sane alt-tab switching mechanism

>>59753903
>trashing Mir and Unity 8
Literally laughing out loud

>>59754262
I don't have any criticism for snap, that was just a question.
But I do have a problem with Mir.

>>59754263
funny i installed fedora rawhide with xfce seconds before unity died

>>59754290
>But I do have a problem with Mir.

problem solved

>>59754263
>Xfce is a piece of screen tearing shit that can't even display fonts properly

>>59754260
And while I really wanted Ubuntu Convergence to succeed (mobile/desktop dock is the future of personal computing) it was pretty much wishful thinking.

I'm fairly sure it will take apple to market this idea to normies enough to pick it up.
iOS and android are to well established for anything to threaten it unfortunately.
So again, freeing up resources.

>>59754263
And Unity is worse than all of those

>>59754306
>mobile/desktop dock is the future of personal computing
No.

>>59754263
>MATE is ugly and deprecated
MATE is maximum efficiency and usefulness. It's the perfect DE and it looks quite nice out of the box. No childish eye candy shit like transparency and the task bars are nice and thin to allow for more vertical space.

Xfce is just super sluggish. Not quite as bas as KDE but it's a pain in the ass. Especially the start menu is terrible.

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>>59754305
Oh no, it's retarded

>>59754263
Gnome is beautiful software given to us by our lords and saviors at Red Hat.

>>59754281
>17.04 will ship with Unity7
Yeah, but it comes with Unity8 installed by default and usable at install, at least in beta. I think they may strip Unity 8 from 17.04 at release.

>>59754263
>Cinnamon is slow and ugly
>Compared to unity
Sure it is, buddy

>>59754326
Yes.

>>59753903
>Unity finally dies

This shit has gone on long enough.

Shuttlecuck finally realized Ubuntu will never be a smartphone OS.

>>59754263
>>59754305
both of these are unironically right

To be fair Mir was basically already dead. Unity was likely to support both Wayland and Mir and if you could use either why would you use Mir?

I hope this whole Ubuntu meme dies of soon.

>>59754305

Section "Display"
    Identifier "Card0"
    Driver     "<your shitty driver here>"

    Option "TearFree" "true"

>ugly fonts

pic related

>>59754328
Whiskermenu, faggot

>>59754351

nope they will get even stronger, with a realistic focus now.

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Redhat wins, again

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>>59754355
kek, forgot pic

>>59754073
It's essentially the Ubuntu fansite, what did you fucking expect?

WHAT THE FUCK IT'S REAL

https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/04/05/growing-ubuntu-for-cloud-and-iot-rather-than-phone-and-convergence/

>>59754326
Yes you luddite.

Only thing we lack is a framework that enables popular applications to be used in both touchscreen enabled mobile mode and mouse-and-keyboard driven desktop mode.

A mobile device you put in your pocket that you plug in to a dock enabled with large display, keyboard, mouse, printer and speakers loaded with a decent browser, office suite and basic videoediting/photoediting software covers the personal computing needs of 80%+ of computer users.


Smartphones are more popular than desktop/laptop computers in the 3rd world because they're cheap, small and don't use much power for basic computing needs.

>>59754355
>Whiskermenu
That's what I meant. I only ever used Xfce with Xubuntu and Whiskermenu is standard with that. It's just horribly fugly

>>59754370
Kek. It's true.

>>59754394
the future of computing is terminals connecting to a virtual machine on either a local or cloud server.

>>59754331
Says a retard using autistic OS designed by virgins

>>59754416
And those terminals will be your fucking mobile device that you plug in to a large display with keyboard and mouse in home

>>59754368
I seriously don't know how is this distro the most popular, besides sheer momentum.
There are other distros for retarded people.

>>59754403
>>59754355
Whiskermenu is literally the worst part of Xubuntu. The standard start menu for XFCE is fucking patrician though. Drop down menus just can't be surpassed in terms of usability.

>>59754394
>videoediting
Nigga you go and try rendering the most basic vid on your phone you crazy fuck.

>inb4 april fools

>>59754427

you can hate it as much as you want, it won't change anything

>still not using KDE
lel

>30 minutes later
>still not a sticky

Unity was the only DE I could tolerate.

Back to windows I guess.

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>>59754368
>tfw you will soon be able to have comfy ubuntu lts releases with stable, pure, upstream gnome 3

the only thing keeping me from ubuntu right now is how hacked together unity 7 is and how out of sync they are with gnome

>>59754425
why bother plugging it in? the cost of an ARM device with wifi is so cheap you can just embed it into every device in your home. just have a unified login and you're golden

>>59754428
>not being able to just press Super-Key, type what you want and press enter

>>59754428
Only thing Whiskermenu is good for is the search, especially if you have a shitty memory like I do.

>>59754331
Oh no, it's an ableist piece of shit.

Not him, but you're being a fucking asshole.

1) Stop using "retarded" as an insult. There are good people out there who suffer from retardation. None of them are smart, obviously, but a lot of them are good, and they don't deserve your shit.

2) Stop equating autism to retardation. I'm autistic, but I'm not retarded, you prick. My mom had my IQ tested, it's 138. Is my intellect wasted? You bet it is, because I'm a fucking worthless manchild. But it's still there. If you insist on categorically insulting everyone who has a certain disability, at least get the story straight on which one it is, and don't deliberately conflate dissimilar disorders for rhetorical effect.

Lubuntu toaster master race

>>59754476
Nice pasta, you retarded, autistic faggot

>>59754263
cinnamon is slow but it isn't ugly

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>>59754370
FUCK YEAH
/g/ shills BTFO once again

>>59754476
>I'm autistic
obviously

I liked the sidebar thnig on unity I just hated the menu and the menubar on the top. The theme was pretty nice overall. Shame they're about to ruin all of that with GNOME3's hideous theme

>>59754263
>Forgetting the superior budgie exists

>>59754465
>gnome
>stable
Oxymoron.

>>59754457
>using the most sluggish and broken DE on the market
>"it's soooo customizable!"
>breaks down
>"ahhh well that's just a little bug. happens to every program"
>completely fucks up task bar layout
>"no problem I'm just gonna have to create a new taskbar"
>takes 10 seconds to open the start menu
>"well... uuhhh... my PC is kinda old"
>switching tabs in the start menu feels sluggish
>"those animations are a feature!"
wew lad

There's now literally ZERO REASONS to use Ubuntu.

>>59754476
t. Retard

>>59754507
gnome is extremely stable

>>59754504
Budgie is gimped on anything but Solus, though.

>subjecting yourself to a hobbyist distro

WHAT THE FUCK
AT LONG LAST

LET ME GO PUT THE CHAMPAGNE IN THE FREEZER

AM I BACK TO UBUNTU? AFTER ALMOST 8 YEARS?? AM I GOING BACK? FOR FUCKS SAKE WHAT A FUCKING WASTE OF TIME

>>59754465

If they snap all DEs and use Ubuntu Core you'll always have the latest version

>>59754507
i had more crashes in 4 hours with kde than i have in the past year with gnome

>>59754139
>GNOME3
>usable again
choose one

>>59754523
>stable
>each release breaks theme compatibility

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>>59754514
nice memes lad, too bad has nothing to do with reality

kde was always better than the shitfest of gnome, save the time when the devs went full retard and launched kde4 before it was done

Ubuntu GNOME already exists though. I wonder what the people using Unity will do now?

>>59754550
There is a reason why all major distros use gnome...

>>59754493
>>59754520
I literally just explained this to you. What the fuck is your problem.

>>59754563
bitch and moan for the next 20 years

>>59754557
>calls out a meme
>posts a meme
wew lad

GTK is now the most popular UI toolkit

Wayland is now the standard display protocol

GNOME is now the standard linux desktop

IT'S HAPPENING!!!!

>>59754563
I hope they die

>>59754584
fight meme with meme

>>59754539
what are you using now?

why not just use ubuntu gnome?

is your caps lock key broken?

>>59754586
>GNOME is now the standard linux desktop
just no. fucking bloatware. get rid of transparency effects and animations and it's semi OK

>>59754544
this is literally my dream, i can finally get off fucking arch without giving up new features

>>59754586
>systemd is now the standard init system
:^)

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>>59754563
Unity will be a flavour, GNOME will be the Ubuntu. TOP LEL

>>59754554
Not really
They only finalized the API in 3.20 if I remember correctly

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>>59754586
>tfw shills lost
feels good man

I can't wait for Android to kill off BMI distributions. It's only a matter of time.

>>59754623
Yeah, after being constantly called out for that

>>59754209
where we are going we dont need arrows

>>59754613
What transparency effects?
And you can disable the animations

>>59754539
You're not getting gnome 2 back, we're all stuck with gnome 3 bullshit now.

>>59754618
I wonder if the Unity devs will give up on it or if they'll start removing the dependency on Mir and make it use Wayland compatible stuff

>>59754627
Excellent autocorrect

>>59754641
>I'm here to shitpost and use meme arrows, and I'm all out of meme arrows

>>59754586
GNOME was always the standard.

>>59754640
Writing a CSS theme engine for gtk in C can be tricky

>>59754504
Yeah, Budgie has been pretty good, so far. A shame they keep reinventing the wheel every 3 seconds.

>>59754263

Openbox with some XFCE components is the true master race.

>>59754586
DELET THIS

>>59754063
>stopped with this Apple-like NIH syndrome
To be fair that's the reason Apple is popular, in first place.

>>59754565
Because of Red Hat? I've used Gnome, it's utter shit.

>>59754586
2017 year of the linux desktop

>>59754651
Mate is basically gnome 2 with gtk3 support

Stupid change. Unity runs so much better than gnome on old laptops, the main use for the os. Why not ship it with a riced xfce?

>>59754176

Fuck no I run into random issues with it half the time and have to look for the right driver to avoid it.

Gnome is better.

>>59754586
i lub dis timeline

>>59754600
I went from the cluster fuck of unity
to snow leopard to literally forgetting about computers for a while
then coming back to vidya and win7, and now I have a thinkpad yoga 12 that comes with windows 10
the times of installing every distro are long forgotten, but this news excites me so much
the capslock is used for emphasis

>>59754651
PACK YOUR BAGS HAHA
nah I guess I could go with gnome classic if it still exists

They should have switched to Cinnamon. It was the only true successor to Gnome 2.

>>59754721
It didn't work for Canonical, though.

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Gnome is shit too, only KDE and XFCE is worth using

>>59754498
Ohoho, you're such a funny guy.

Do you even know what it is to be a worthless piece of shit, and wake up every day knowing that's all you'll ever be no matter how hard you try, because there's something fundamentally wrong with you, that you can't change, that's barring you from living up to what would otherwise be your full potential? I'm sick of being a burden on everyone I love. I just want to die, but my mom won't let me.

>>59754730
Xubuntu exists though.

There's a bit too many of these sponsored forks though desu. I kinda wish devs would stop making them and just let the central distro ship with an installer that lets you choose the one you want.

>>59754750
Wrong. Mate is a healthiest gnome2 derivative.

>>59754759
;_;

>>59754757
Just use windows loser.

>>59754727
Unfortunately it's dead.

>>59754757
Oh god this looks so amazing

>>59754781
the*

>>59754756
Not enough money and they lack a reality distortion field.

>>59754759
Anything is possible if you truly want it

>>59754614
What's wrong with Arch?

>>59754759
>I just want to die, but my mom won't let me.
louis ck pls fuck right off

I remember that a long time ago Elementary was pretty exciting

I don't know it's current state
at least on Linux you can install whatever DE that you want on any distro, with more or less good results

but of course it is better that canonical is not wasting any more time in that trash that is unity

>>59754759
>Do you even know what it is to be a worthless piece of shit
Everyone on 4chins knows

>>59754770

That would be a nice idea. Does ubuntu server come without a DTE?

>>59754790
>t. someone who thinks the choice of OS is mainly based on DE

>>59754799
It's dont.

>>59754790
I do because I actually use my desktop for more things than browsing the internet and watching anime. Whenever I do use Linux I usually just go with KDE because it doesn't require a bunch of ricing and shit to be usable.

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>>59753903
>not KDE1
Plebs

>>59754823
Yeah, pretty much thanks for understanding the situation.

>>59754721
popular != good

>>59754820
I believe it has a text based installer that installs a very minimal OS with no DE by default. You can install the DE and stuff through a custom install but you have to deal with aptitude which is sketchy in my experience the other option is installing one post-installation.

>>59754841
>KDE1
>when CDE is now open-source

t. pleb

>>59754817
>Pantheon DE
>written in Vala
Elementary was shit from the start.

>>59754584
Alright, this post triggered me. How the fuck is that image a meme? I don't even use Linux, so I'm impartial.

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>>59754586
All is as it should be

>>59754781
Mate is ugly and obsolete.

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>>59754903
I hope you paid, haha

>>59754807
A simple "no, I don't" would have sufficed. Because that's basically what you just told me.

The kind of spiritual debilitation I'm talking about transcends the childish, magical-thinking notion of "anything is possible if you want it enough." Maybe YOUR psyche works that way, but mine doesn't. Mine is too weak. Mine is autistic.

>>59754906
>swedish masterrace
>dutch masterrace
>cucked
>suicidal

This is like the essence of meme retard,

GNOME Classic is the only thing that matters lads
well that and openrc

>>59754979
>GNOME Classic
Use MATE then.

Give me:
>terminator
>rhythmbox
>crontab
>portage/apt
>epiphany/whatever
like I give a fuck about a DE

>>59754963
Those are memes. How is the image a meme though?

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>>59753903
GNOME 3 is pretty comfy, desu

Plank is better than the default launcher though (pic related)

>>59754954
>I don't know what I want reeeeeee

Maybe you have misdiagnosed schizophrenia? Anyway, kill yourself.

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>>59755014
>a compilation of memes isn't a meme

>>59755006
>rhythmbox
>not Clementine

WHY.jpg

>>59755039
So your computer is a meme cause it displays many memes?

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Liri OS is the future.

>>59753982
This. Finally.

I still remember the good old times

gnome 2.4
gnome-do to launch stuff
firefox in it's prime
terminator
rhythmbox

life was good
social media didn't even exist back then
internet was cool
RSS was everything back then
youtube was made by people and not vevo trash
I miss 2005 internet and tech, to be honest

>>59755055
because it is an amaroK trash clone, a fucking monster
I can give you Banshee If you are into bloat

>>59754038
This. Pretty big shock for the Linux community tbfh

Good. I'm glad Mir died.

>>59754038
>>59755114
Mark pls, go

>>59755063

I hope it becomes an official Ubuntu "flavor", even though I think that flavors will die when they start using Ubuntu Core

I'm not glad Gnome is alive, but I'm glad Mir is dead.

>>59755019
Icons on the right blend in with the background and that dock is not mounted on the left or right.

sharp knees 0/10 would not bang

>>59755160
I don't think they have the manpower to support all those flavors. They already made Ubuntu Budgie an official flavor not long ago.

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GNOME 3 is pretty great. I've always been fond of it. I use it on my desktop, and i3 on my laptop.

>>59755259
>pic
wew
e
w

Why is everyone hating on Gnome? It is great and runs smoothly than any of other existing DE. lol

I'd ignore this if it was only /g/ but reddit is also hating on gnome so I am wondering what the fucking is wrong with you faggots.

Gnome has served me well over past 2 years. What do you faggots do or what to do on your DE?

so will Gnome devs stop being dicks and re-align their release schedule again with Ubuntu's?

Red Hat should also coordinate with Ubuntu to match long supported Gnome versions for RHEL and Ubuntu LTS

>>59753903
Hahaha


Hahahahahahahaha

>>59755317
GNOME 3 is way too bloated compared to GNOME 2. I don't know what the fuck they did to make it like that.

>>59753967
Unity 7 was great. Unity 8 looked like trash though and Mir was a stupid fucking idea. Good riddance.

>>59754799
>>59754651
Use MATE. It is unquestionably under active development, and is extremely stable. I have a machine at work with it that has been online for 330 days, my work desktop has been on over 180 with it.

>>59755343
beggars not choosers

>>59755365
have you used gnome 3 after they released 3.16?

>>59753903
>This post will be updated as I sup my coffee and resolve the shock.
Shouldn't it be sip?

>>59755317
Gnome devs are arrogant idiots and the reason Canonical started Unity
latest example:
>Meanwhile, Gtk 4.0 will not be the final stable API of what we would call 'Gtk 4'. Each 6 months, the new release (Gtk 4.2, Gtk 4.4, Gtk 4.6) will break API and ABI vs. the release that came before it. These incompatible minor versions will not be fully parallel installable; they will use the same pkg-config name and the same header file directory. We will, of course, bump the soname with each new incompatible release — you will be able to run Gtk 4.0 apps alongside Gtk 4.2 and 4.4 apps, but you won’t be able to build them on the same system. This policy fits the model of how most distributions think about libraries and their 'development packages'

>>59755381
>It is unquestionably under active development,
They have not even started working on wayland yet.

>>59755389
He was in shock.

>tfw the year of the Qt desktop will never come

>>59755392
It's GTK3 all over again

>>59755389
>not supping your coffee
Are you even trying?

Mark's post:

https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/04/05/growing-ubuntu-for-cloud-and-iot-rather-than-phone-and-convergence/

>>59754586
>GTK is now the most popular UI toolkit
You made three typos in the word "Qt".

>>59755421
KDE is still the best DE though.

>he doesn't use gnu/xmonad

>>59755438
Unity 8 was supposed to use Qt and now we have the gtk cancer spreading instead.

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>GTK
>Qt
Desktop environment based on wxWidgets never ever.

>>59755431
Guess I'll have to try harder next time

>>59755388
>beggars not choosers
exactly.
if Gnome devs want useful bug reports from the biggest desktop distro by far, they should re-align.
otherwise most bug reports will be from an old version and useless.

>>59755317
I do not like the defaults the devs have set and they basically removed all of the options to change them in the menus and preferences or whatever they call their control panel thing. The devs are clearly targeting people like macfags who are scared of options and I am not interested in what they're selling.

>>59755479
>lubuntu lxqt postponed again

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>>59755499
I'm waiting for a desktop environment based on CLIM.

>>59755063
is that Hawaii?

>>59754654
Did you read the OP? They're completely giving up on it. They're leaving 8 years of work out with the garbage, just like that.

>>59753982
That's what you get for using piece of shit experimental distros like Ubuntu. I've been running Arch with dwm since 2010 and nothing ever changes. It just runs and stays the practically the same except for minor under the hood changes like systemd that don't affect everyday use.

Gnome3 is fucking retarded and unusable without addons that fix absolutely moronic design choices. Hopefully the ubuntu team will make some improvements to it.

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>>59755643
>tfw gnome3 titlebars

>>59755434
>I was wrong on both counts. In the community, our efforts were seen fragmentation not innovation.

Yes, and you contributed to it by making yet another DE and a competing and utterly incompatible display manager. Fucking disgusting cunt.

>>59755643
GNOME 3 has no "moronic design choices". Having the tray hidden in the lower left corner while there's shitloads of whitespace in the panel is perfectly sane. No one needs thumbnails in a file picker. Just drag and drop from Files.

>>59755629
Well, Liri OS is Papyros + Hawaii, so yeah.

>>59754085
>this is going to hello the linux ecosystem so much

>>59753903
FUCK YES
The cancer that is unity is finally fucking dead. Good Lord yes.

I'll still be using Fedora but this is great now. It means year of the Wayland DM. This bringa us closer to having real gpu support for Wayland, and thus bringing us ever closer to the year of the Linux desktop

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>>59755725
>gnome
AHAHAHAH
fucking joke of a DE, shit toolkit and SJW devs.

>>59755725
>having real gpu support for Wayland,
Everything but nvidia's proprietary drivers supports Wayland

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>>59753903
Well that sucks, I absolutely hate gnome and kde. Unity is at least somewhat bearable.

Guess i'm just going to have to stick with xfce in the future.

>>59755762
Novideo fags BTFO

>>59755636
Wayland will deprecate X and all those WMs.
Red Hat's GnomeOS masterplan is now entering the next phase with Canonical giving in.

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smartphones killed a lot of DEs/apps

let me explain my point:
the iPhone got released, suddenly the smartphone market was in full force
everybody even your mother was terrified of desktops disappearing, so all DEs entered a period of identity crisis, to accommodate this new touch/phonelike/apps type of paradigm that looked like the future

examples:
>gnome shell
>windows 8
>osx lion
>firefox

gnome 3 still looks like a really good tablet/touch interface DE

windows 8.... I am still laughing about when they removed the start menu button

osx lion.... using an app launcher that looked like iOS... or worse, the fucking notification center, that even windows 10 now has (totally useless)

firefox hamburguer menu, using floating menus....
tldr: the desktop paradigm is fragmented and trashy as fuck thanks to smartphones

>>59755807
Irrelevant. Then I'll use a wayland implementation of dwm.

>>59755807
>GnomeOS
>not systemdOS

Was systemdOS a B plan?

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the Wikipedia article of Unity jumps almost 4 years of trash versions
hahaha

>>59755830
Obviously it's systemd/Gnome/Linux

>>59755828
bullshit.
wayland by design has a compositor, so the opposite of tiling.

>>59755865
>implying 14.04 wasn't GOAT

>>59755892
>wayland by design has a compositor, so the opposite of tiling.
At last I see.

guys, pls read

>18.04
still one year of cancer ahead

>On 5 April 2017 Mark Shuttleworth announced that work on Unity will end and that Ubuntu 18.04 LTS, year away at that time, will abandon the Unity desktop and employ the GNOME 3 desktop instead, as Canonical moves away from its ambitions to produce a unified cell phone and desktop operating system and concentrates on desktop, cloud computing and Internet of things platforms instead.[
and they will go full gnome shell on that release

PACK YOUR BAGS, NOTHING TO SEE HERE

>>59755397
It is on their roadmap. Even so, that doesn't make the project "dead". A ton of people use MATE, too.

>>59754370
like pottering

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FUCK YOU

Is there any other distro that works with printers?

>>59755892
What about these: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wayland#Window_managers_and_desktop_shells ?

Why can't they build a DE with QT and resort to use GNOME's shitware?

>>59754263
KDE is pretty nice desu ne.

>>59755816
>gnome 3 still looks like a really good tablet/touch interface DE

that's the problem, it looks like it's designed for tablets but it sucks to use on tablets

>>59755969
All of them since all that any Linux distro does about printers is reusing Apple's subsystem.

>>59754263
>GNOME is shit and bloated
Couldn't agree more
t.Gnomecuck

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>>59755969
Slackware works with my two printers. :^)

>>59755761
Is this for real? Are you really trying to imply that unit has more desktop real estate than GNOME? Especially GNOME with extensions?

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>>59755816
Not Apple's fault that everyone wanted to jump in the touch-based DE bandwagon.
And I think even consoles do a better work at attempt to make a consistent minimalist, yet usable, UI. For example, XrossMediaBar was way ahead of its time, and it was scabale enough to be put in TVs, Blu-ray players, consoles, and even handhelds (PSP).

>>59755993
Much of the Linux community dislikes Qt because of their license and their history.

>>59754263
XUBUNTU MASTER RACE

BOW DOWN PEASANTS

>>59755969
I heard Solus is good for printers.

If you don't already have Ubuntu gnome installed you're a retard anyway

>>59756041
go away Kevin

>>59756025
Yes, no matter how much you try to shovel extensions, GNOME shell's design is flawed for a desktop.

>>59753903
good & bad
bad cuz phone market is dominated by complete garbage and there's nothing good. not 1 phone not 1 operating system is good.

and good cuz unity is shit and ubuntu probably wants to start with wayland shit and can't

>>59755942
The tray location is by far the most stupid thing they have done.

>>59755816
To be fair, having an actual button there is pointless. Everyone just slams their mouse into the corner with the icon, so removing the icon but keeping the corner click changed basically nothing.

>>59755993

because mixing and matching qt with gtk leads to a really shitty user experience

>>59756035

which is too bad, I know developing for qt can be shit but it's better than the cancer that is gtk3

>>59756035
It's still objectively better than the GTK cancer.
fucking retarded freetards, they fucked yet another good thing.

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>>59755761
>pic
The reason I fucking despise Gnome
WHY YOU TAKE SO MUCH FUCKING SPACE EVERYWHERE

>>59753903
too bad gnome followed them in that stupid design and now cinamon is the only decent shell

>>59755830
in the words of some Gnome dev
>This of course moves attention away from ‘GNOME’, because people then commit their new fixes to those underlaying systems instead of implementing 100 000 lines of workaround code to ‘GNOME’, I mean I still consider Lennart Poettering a GNOME hacker even though his current work isn’t on anything in the GNOME git repository.

>>59755892
ok but there's still lots of window managers for it

>>59756076
I was saying ditch the whole GTK cancer and go for Qt.
see
>>59756078

>>59754194
breathing

>>59754282
they don't have alt tabbing?
WHAT THE FUCK LOL

what are essential gnome extensions?

>>59756147
Dash to panel

>>59756153
>not dash to dock
shit taste nigger

>>59756104
>I was saying ditch the whole GTK cancer and go for Qt.

ah sorry, I was under the impression you meant build the de with qt but 'resort' to use gtk programs

>>59755942
Use super to change window you idiot
That way you don't have to move your mouse to the edge of the screen and back in order to change window
You idiots make fun of gnome for being a simplified mobile DE yet you're all too stupid to use it properly

So, what are the chances of canonical making gnome not shit or at least giving us some pain-killers for the cancer?

>>59756179
Like the next version of Budgie?

>>59756199
Zero.

>>59753903
WHAT
THE
FUCK

>>59756192

>Forced to use the keyboard to change windows.

>Calls others idiots.

>>59756179
I just hope they keep the same layout and functionality like HUD in a modified gnome shell (like cinnamon at one time)
Gnome shell's layout and design is a joke.

DEs are shit. WMs are shit. Linux is shit for desktop

HOL UP HOL UP
let me for a second, ask a question

what is Unity:
>top bar that shows a menu and the hour
>left bar that shows icons
>glass menu that shows the apps
6 Y E A R S
Y
E
A
R
S

why they took them so long? it looks like something that can be coded in a matter of two weeks TOPS

>>59756199
They're probably going to make it look and behave like Unity.

>>59756300
Can't get worse than it is now.

>>59756199
there's still lots of bad blood between them.
was at a level were upstream Gnome wouldn't accept patches simply because they mentioned 'Canonical'.

>>59756317
Fucking red hat.

>>59756300
Hopefully, gnome shell was unusable from the get go, and the devs don't give a fuck, hey let's include a recipe app!11!!

7 years later. About god damn time.
I switched to mint long ago.

>>59756147
Removable Drive Menu

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>>59754263
>Xfce
No wayland so tearing and shit. Seems like fucking tmux inside pure tty is only good option.

>>59755761
yfw 15 columns 36 rows 1280x800

>>59755190
fuck you man fuck you

>>59755761
>what is pixel saver
Kys

>>59754906
image + text = meme
source: moms on facebook

>>59756056
No, it's just flawed when your screen has only 800 vertical pixels or under.

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>>59756438
>muh gorillion extensions that I need to get a working DE.

>>59756025
It does in fullscreen, at least ootb

>>59754724
still less shit than the other DE/WM

I'll care when fucking anything works with hidpi consistently

And no integer scaling doesn't count, kill yourself

>>59756317
Wasn't that also the reason they created Mir in first place?

>>59753903
Hello Windows 10!

Gnome 3 Sucks!

>>59756660
Gnome 2 was the primary DE, but then gnome 3 came and it was/is shit, so they decided to make unity instead.

>>59756677
shill

>>59756153
>>59754056
>>59753903

I've been coding some new features for dash to panel recently. GNOME is a fucking clusterfuck with hardly no documentation. I hope that Canonical will help with GNOME development.

Also waiting for the day when they fucking finally make it possible to make the panel vertical.

>>59756744
Nope

>>59756843
Which panel specifically?

>>59756890
>dash to panel
>which panel

>>59755670
Absolutely Disgusting.jpg

LINUX IS SAVED

>>59757031
More like it's screwed for at least a few more years.

>>59757076
And nothing of value will be lost.

>>59753903
RIP Unity. We barely knew you.

>>59753903
Gnome hates males and white people

>>59757406
Good

Best news in a while. Mark has swam uphill for years and years, instead of unifying the linux ecosystem they've fucking trashed it with pieces of shit software such as unity and mir.

Now if they'd just scratch that gnome shell shit off their list and go with gnome2/mate, I'd be satisfied. But I'd rather use gnome shell instead of unity erry day.

I switched away from gnome shell when their notification area icons turned out to be in a hideous drawer. Whose fucking brainfart was that?

>>59757406
Just like KDE.

>>59753903
I thought /g/ hated gnome tho?

>>59754255
Which might not pan out, looks like flatpak is doing well. Appimages already work great, but don't have the security.

>>59754006
>C++

>>59757644
>C and CSS

>>59757700
C is a good base and webstandards are easy.

>>59757479
>they've fucking trashed it with pieces of shit software such as unity and mir.
yeah blame canonical and only canonical, ignore the fact that red hat is doing the same fucking thing since forever.

>Ubuntu phone failed
>Ubuntu touch failed
>Ubuntu unity failed
>Mir failed

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Unity was the only good thing Ubuntu had going for it. Ubuntu is going to become the next Phat Linux. Never heard it? Yeah that's what I thought.

>>59758146
It just werx

>>59756176
Wrong. Dash to dock is a meme now. Dash to panel is it's objective successor

>>59756511
Yes, GNOME with extensions is better than unity. Get over it

>>59754038
I kinda liked unity, I like it a lot more than Gnome 3 for sure.

Currently Gnome 2 and E17 are my favorites though

>>59758503
But unity has extensions too.