Why aren't you using Arch ?

>>59742053
I am though

I have a life.

>>59742053
Because fuck Arch and it's anti-user devs and bloat: https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2015-July/039443.html
No, I won't use a distro that make decisions based on developer convenience and passes it along to the user.

>>59742053
Cause I'm not a fat hipster

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I am.

Why should I when Manjaro exists?

I don't want it to take effort for an OS work on my system. The point of the OS is to let me do work, not be the work itself.

>>59742053
I don't want to configure my system, I just want it to work.

>>59742064
>>59742108
how many pounds overweight are you?

>>59742122
literally the only reason to use arch over manjaro is for the /g/ points
I still use arch though

>>59742229
a couple

What would it offer me over Ubuntu?

>>59742053
I want my compter to actually work, there are literally no benefits to using Arch.

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I am though.

>>59742229
You tell me, 52kg/170cm.

>>59742254
no bugs

>>59742295
What's the deal with the banding and weird artifacts on the car?

>>59742333
>mom xorg broke again

>>59742053
IMO arch is cool for a home desktop. Running arch on a server or work station is fucking nuts though.

I use Antergos because Arch is actually pretty great but has an installer from 1994.

>>59742362
>Running arch on a server or work station is fucking nuts though.

It makes for a comfy home server with the lts kernel though.

>>59742350
I poorly edited it in GIMP because I was lazy. I don't look at it enough to care.

>>59742350
wow dude. you bought a 4chan pass?

>>59742377
Why does that deter you from using arch?
Oh wait, you are too stupid to even use an installer from 1994

>>59742653
he a rich nigga

>>59742053
xbps > pacman

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>>59742722
I'm an Arch user and do not endorse this name-calling. We are a distribution of peace.

>>59742053
i am using arch

the real question is should i install gnome3 or kde? shitty dinosaur DEs like xfce need not apply

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>>59742053
>Why aren't you using Arch ?- 28 posts and 3 image replies shown.
I'm not poor.

>>59742822
>sits on /g/ all day
>doesn't even think i3 is worth mentioning

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>>59742053
But I am :P

>>59742726
4chan pass is only $20 a year, I actually have 2.

>>59743510
Do cats even like ham?

>>59742813
*Arch user explodes*

>>59742053
Not ready to jump in yet

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I might not be a traditional elitist Arch faggot but I genuinly like the Arch. You have the AUR, the wiki, a good packet manager and so forth. I feel like even though not everything works out of the box and things sometimes break, the good documentation makes things very fixable with minimal effort.

>>59742053
because it's a worthless pile of shit

>>59743648
>the Arch
don't know what happened there

In all seriousness...

To everyone who wants to use Arch but finds it a PITA to install:
Install Antergos.

It's literally Arch, with:
* A GUI for installation (which includes a few DEs by default)
* 1 extra repository

It's literally Arch without the cancer.

>>59743648
True.

Hey, what is it that people use to get that nice-looking terminal?
Not baiting, just genuinely interested.

>>59742083
>No, I won't use [something] that make decisions based on developer convenience and passes it along to the user.
That would include C, and most of GNU as well

>>59744229
All those "benefits" you listed are literal cancer though. This is coming from a Noobuntu user.

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>>59744229
Why when you could just install Arch?

>>59743683
what about
>packet manager

I've been using Fedora for about 6 months now and I really don't have a reason to switch.
I also use my computer for school, so I want something that just werks; I don't want to login to my laptop and have to fix something right off the bat. I may install Arch at some point because of the AUR and "How much better than pacman is than yum/dnf" but not right now.

>>59744623
>>59744229

>>59744229
antergos has pre-installed bloat like ubuntu
use arch-anywhere

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>>59742053
but I am

>>59744229
It took me one guide and three installs after fucking up arch to understand everything going on in arch install. This is coming straight off windows to Linux. Arch is easy and i can choose so much.

>>59744708
What bloatware specifically?

>>59744735
the bootloader setup is the biggest gotcha that can happen mostly.

>>59742229
I use arch too!

>how many pounds overweight are you?
1.473m/41kg

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>>59742053
i am, until november :^)

>>59744790
You’re planning quite ahead, why the change?

>>59744790
why, because arch is phasing out i686 support?

I used linux once in all my life but i run away from that because i had to enter my shitty password every two seconds. I was thinking to switch to manjaro, i was just wondering if i will have lots of troubles and if it's personalizable as arch is? What would you say?

>>59744660
When I move over to Arch, I'll probably go with Antergos. I've tried it in a VM and it's so fucking convenient to install.

>>59744904
Why do you want to use Manjaro? I'm not trying to troll you or anything I'm just curious.

How can you spot an Arch user? Don't worry, they'll be sure to let you know.

Hey Arch niggers maybe you didn't read the question posed by OP. He asked why you're not using Arch, not for a fucking Arch user roll call. Nobody cares that you use some timesink OS.

>>59744918
Because i heard about the aur repository (which i have almost no idea of what it is but people say it's "superior" to others), also i like when a os is highly personalizable and i don't want to use ubuntu because sounds to me like what Samsung android roms are in comparison to Cyanogenmod ones?

>>59744468
This is a botnet.

>>59745007
Why do you want to use Manjaro over regular Arch though? If you're intimidated by the installation there are graphical installers available for Arch like >>59744468

I don't really see any reason for someone to use something like Manjaro or Antergos.

>>59745013
How?

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>>59744904
>not using the NOPASSWD directive in the sudoers file

>>59745086
le troll
ignore

>>59745072
because in this right moment i have time to install an os with a graphical installer but i would try to get things done well if i had to install Arch, and i would easily lose 6 hours.
Also i don't even know if i'll be able to appreciate arch at all? so i wanna just try

>>59745007
Not him, but
>the AUR
the way the AUR and Arch repos work is that the Arch repos usually have a good amount of packages, but the AUR has way more user-submitted packages.
> personalizability
The same DE over multiple distros will have the same amount of customizability, but some distros favor certain DEs so that DE will be less buggy and will likely perform better out of the box.

Because I prefer to use an operating system developed by individuals capable of rational thought.

>>59745086
Check the forums kiddo.
>>59745097
Enjoy your botnet nigger.

>>59745106
Arch anywhere is what you want. It's a GUI installer except in the end you wind up with actual Arch and not a derivative.

>>59745126
>kiddo
>nigger
def not le troll, will take your unsubstantiated comment as fact and uninstall right now

>>59745126
Why can't you just say here?

>>59745149
Ok. Then what? I don't know how to use linux in general.

>>59744975
lol
underrated post

Because I'm installing Gentoo and am struggling at setting up X (black screen)

>>59745165
Read the Arch wiki and a few simple command line tutorials. The arch wiki is the best linux documentation on the web honest.

It's really not that hard.

>>59745209
K anon, you convinced me. Guess i'll try thanks

>>59745209
Oh, just another thing. Is arch good on laptops? i ll probably get a new one soon

>>59745270
Yeah I've been using it on my Toshiba Satellite for about 2 years now without issues.

>>59745007
do you even own a computer?

>>59745322
Yeah? windows 10 on it.

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Because Solus is so much better

>>59742053
I tried to install it once but it failed with some cryptic error message. Went back to ubuntu because it just works.

>>59745347
Shut up Kevin we're discussing mature distros ITT.

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>>59742077

spbp

>>59742053

Because i use Windows

>>59742053
Today I decided to set up a Linux Vm, after thinking for a while I decided to use arch, installation went smoothly then I got to the GUI part, I selected the badgie desktop evrioment and l something (Forgot name) login screen and after I typed root username and password it remained on the login screen, I knew what was wrong, probably a syntax fuck up in one of the files but I had spent so much time I didn't want to start over, so I did what any arch Linux enthusiast with common sense would do. Say fuck it and install fucking Ubuntu.

>>59744733
>close button right above the file menue.

For what purpose? To fuck with users causing them to accidentally close out of things?

>>59745370
>start over
what
just literally boot back into the live disk/usb, mount back your drives and edit your display manager's config file

>>59742053
Because I have a job.

>>59745007
aur has lots of user submitted software recipes (or binaries where source is not available), yes anyone can just build from source themselves and many times is the right thing to do but the aur simplifies that and more importantly will apply any arch useful or specific compile flags, configs, etc.

>>59745358
>Mature
Arch is a more mature than it's users at least

>>59745496
would you please define "user submitted recipe" to a windows fag?

>>59745370

Can confirm. I've used Arch as my main OS for years. Getting the system up and running is the quickest of any distro I've ever used. Getting the GUI up.... it seems like something always fucks up. The wiki is awesome for some things and complete shit after the base system is installed.

>>59745574
normally on linux, when building from source, you have to
find what the dependencies ares
download the dependencies
compile the dependencies
What compile flags do i need?
install the dependencies
where do they need to install?
now you compile the program you wanted
what compile flags do i need??
install the program
where does the program need to be installed?

aur hands you a script that does all that in basically 1 execution.

>>59745642
ooh. nice.

>>59744244
I use termite because if you use compton with it you can use transparency which looks nice with i3

>>59745953
see
>>59744263

Just fucking stop

>>59742053
Because kernel updates are a bitch for nvidia drivers and certain filesystem modules breaking.
AUR is a nice feature, but not worth the hassle for me personally

>>59742122
I don't trust distros that are "based off of" the main ones. In that spirit, fuck Mint and fuck Antergos and fuck all the other thousands of Arch or Debian based clones that keep popping up.

Stick to the main ones like Debian, Arch, Gentoo, etc. The rest are just memes slapped together by very unprofessional devs.

>>59742295
What's that visualizer, anon? or is it just your wallpaper?

because...

my university wifi which i regrettably am forced to be on (too much money being received to stop staying here) prohibits me from installing it. WPA 2 enterprise requires a web login and im not experienced enough to set up a wpa_supplicant

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>>59742053

>still using proprietary software

I don't have the time to allow myself for the pleasure of optimizing, configuring and ricing a distro, I'm already 100% occupied with other things and also I go to gym 3 times a week and spend time with my gf.

>>59746847
People use manjaro because they want to be a part of a hip crowd but also want everything to work out of the box. It's is great at first, then 6 months down the road you'll run `pacman -Syu` and get a fucked up version of a driver, and you won't know what to do because there's no graphical installation wizard to fix your problem. You HAVE to know what's on your system to maintain an arch installation, and manjaro is designed to deprive you of that, under the false pretense that you can maintain the installation without knowing what's going on.

If you want an up to date linux distro that works out of the box just track debian unstable.

ran arch for a long time

switched to ubuntu cause it has sane defaults and a 5 min install

arch is bloat, install alpine

>>59748006
I have a gf too, along with work and studies.
>inb4 muh priorities

>>59742122
because it's a hobyist project?

>>59742353
stop living in the past
it's 2017

>>59743617
>xorg explodes

>>59744708
or ubuntu's network installer

>>59745270
pacman -S tlp

>>59745953
use st with compton-trans -c 90

>>59742108
that's a big cooler.

>>59748735
4u

>>59748700
arch is a hobbyist project

>>59742053
Because I am happy enough with Xubuntu+i3WM for the time being and don't care much for ricing. A quick install with minimal bloat that does the job is satisfactory.

I dislike the rolling release style, don't want to play whack-a-mole with annoying bugs emerging with bleeding edge updates frequently.

Rolling release sounds really good if I want the latest and greatest as soon as possible but not much crosses my mind besides perhaps QEMU supporting more than 4 USB devices being passed through, and Wayland introducing GPU hot-swapping.

Negative points aside, being able to install precisely the software I want without having to hunt down redundant software I do not use after each major update sounds appealing.

If I ever start drowning in back-ports and kernel patches to get my shit running, I will consider some variant of it, perhaps manjaro that everyone has been talking about since it is quicker and easier to setup apparently.

>>59748912
>many people appointed to do job when they can
>usually withing a time frame
>many more people backing parts here and there
maybe as in a toy you get to play with
but as a project no

>manjaro
>one guy
>a few other irrelevant guys
>"hobbyist project" literary posted on the website
i didnt post it to be mean
but to remind something people gloss over

>>59749455
>systemd

>openrc version

>>59749566
>slide topic bc im uncomfortable

anyway would you like to explain your point
since you obviously got btfo on the last one

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>>59749673
That was my only post.

Well, one of the two is systemd and the other features an openrc option.

>>59742053
I am using it on my laptop, as a hobby/learning thing mostly. Wouldn't want to have it on my desktop, but it works great on the laptop.

Only problem is that I got lazy once I got it installed and am still using stock GUI and shit. Also, things like Steam , Bluetooth, etc don't work all that great.

>>59750221
both "feature" it
but you mean a pre made iso dont you

>>59742053
Because I'm using Gentoo and it's better in every way.

Because Parabola exists.

>>59750565
Not really, arch is "You can still use it, it's just becoming increasing more difficult at a
pretty steady pace."
> https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2015-July/039443.html

>>59742053
>mom, cancel my meetings

>>59750563
What the fuck is a "stock gui" in Arch, liar.

cause it sounds like ass in my language and i get bullied when i say i use ass linux

>>59750964
I really think this was the intention of the makers..

>It's a german distro

>>59742053
Because I did my time with Gentoo, and I'm happy with Linux Mint.

>>59750975
You mean Canadian

>>59750989
>Like Wernher von Braun was an American :^)
jk
I thought it was german, must be netrunner of something I'm confusing.

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>>59742303
WTF? That's literally me.

>>59742053
To inteligant