Gamers Nexus exposed as shills and shit "reviewer"

>>59736463
i don't speak spanish

>>59736463
didn't they literally put duct tape between the ssd and the cooler? who would have guessed it would overheat?

>>59736503
Yep, more or less. Also it turns out that GN never bothered to test actual transfer speeds. Now that some real reviewers did that, it turns out that .m2 heat shields do in fact prevent throttling, as expected.

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>>59736463
>Inb4 autistic screeching.

>>59736463
How can you fuck up that badly and get away with it?
Literally only shills will defend GN after this. Computerbase.de has always been rock solid, this just shows GN to be the shills they always were.

>>59736578
>Also it turns out that GN never bothered to test actual transfer speeds.
Audible kek. Youtube """""""""""tech""""""""""" channels.

>>59736463
>Youtube
>"Gamers"

It was already confirmed shit before he even opened his mouth.

>>59738207
that algorithm, gotta get your views.

>>59738032
thats amazing pic

But isn't he the most thorough and scientific tester on youtube with large articles dedicated to testing?

Are you telling me I've been lied to?

I think I need a minute to think about my lifes decisions.

Never trust a Redditor.

>>59736463
The minute GN gives people numbers they don't like, suddenly he's a shill.

GN doesn't even get a pile of hardware every month like Linus or other big channels.

Lots of the testing is done with hardware they purchased themselves.

He didn't do anything wrong.

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>>59736463
>article is in arabic

>>59736463
>https://www.computerbase.de/2017-04/m.2-ssd-kuehler-test/
Fuck off Mohammed with your shitty language. Go back to worshiping a pedo.

>>59736479
That's french, you should be able to understand at least some of it if you speak spanish like you claim.

>>59739010
>He didn't do anything wrong.
Yes he did. He claims to represent a review site and gave his readers wrong information because instead of actually testing the product he half arsed it and bashed it instead. The MSI shield helps. See page 2.

>>59739010
Linus is a flagrant shill

GN appears to simply be incompetent.

>>59739290
>everyone's a shill
>everyone's incompetent

k

>>59739290
>implying Linus isn't equally as incompetent
His main target audience is ~14 years olds and he fucks up even at this level.
Come on anon.

>>59739384
well, yeah

>>59736479
This site alone is worth learning spanish for.

>>59738032
Needs a little salazar studio in the background screeching too.

>>59739236
His tests showed the shield was bullshit
1 other test doesn't disprove his tests
I'll trust the goofy man over random websites

>>59739290
>Everyone I don't like is a shill

>>59739874

One of the oldest, most trusted German review sites is now some random site and less trustworthy then a faggot who started making youtube videos after posting on reddit.

Kill yourself.

>>59739931
>most trusted German review
Based on what?

>>59740517

Based on their track record.

>>59739640
Don't screech to me or my son ever again.

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>>59736479
>>59739092
>Americans

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>>59739640
Here you go anon.

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>>59738032

>>59738032
>in reality reviewers were told to exclusively test at higher resolutions and keep it under 100hz

>>59741092

According to shaggy dog.

>>59741110
>According to jay, shaggy dog, and that bald metal head
He supplied the emails too

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>>59741052
$0.05 has been deposited into your account.

>>59741122

And Paul's hardware punked them all.

>>59741122
Link ?

>>59741149
Not an argument
>>59741160
Source

>>59740956
fuck salazar studio, what a fucking faggot

>>59741204
I don't hate him because I'm an AMad fanboy
I hate him cause he's actually fucking stupid

wasn't gamers nexus that site that had free steam games or some shit

I'm not a fucking worthless german so I don't know

>>59741190

https://youtu.be/IKGJshXgOwU

4 minute mark.

>>59741221
I have no brand loyalty. I hate him because he's a retard as well. He made a video about his "triumph" over recording video game footage on a pc as if everyone else was in the dark on the subject. He's the biggest dipshit on youtube.

>>59741314

Doesn't he claim to be in school as an electrical engineer?

>>59741288
AMD supplied a list of games to test that show Ryzen performing Atleast decently If reviewers are going to test 1080p

That's even more shady that just telling people to test at 4k

>>59741342

Are you fucking dumb?

>>59741329
He claims to be a bio chemical engineer; then when it suits him he thinks that makes him open to talk about electrical and mechanical engineering and normies that don't know bio chemical is for retards will eat it up and take it as the gospel truth
It's like a phsychiatrist trying to tell you about brain surgery

>>59741367

Jesus fucking Christ.

What a faggot.

>>59741360
It's literally
"Okayyyyyy if you have to test at 1080p Atleast use these games that we found work well"

>>59741388

How dare they suggest games that give their hardware positive results! Where do they get off on trying to sell me anything?

I fucking hate AMD now!

>>59736479
>>59739034
>>59739053
>>59739092
Dumbshits, it ends in .de
>https://www.computerbase.de
>computerbase.de
>.de

Obviously it's from Denmark, making the language Finnish.

>>59741410
>it's ok when AMD does it
Literally imagine the backlash if Nvidia or Intel told people to test with specific games that work well on their hardware

>>59741288
AMD also asked Paul to test at different resolutions, not just at 1080p. Don't see anything wrong with that. As for the list, everyone does that. No hardware manufacturer is a sinless angel.

>>59741430

They fucking do you dumb fuck.

Nvidia goes so far as to demanding the same catch phrase in article headlines. "1060 is the sweet spot for 1080!"

They even demand testers emphasize DX11 performance and games that are heavily single threaded Anno 2205 and Metro Last Light.

Kill. Your. Self.

>>59741468
Source

>>59741410
>>59741430
Why are either of you loyal to ANY of these heartless, greedy corporations? Holy fuck like just buy pc parts that actually work as intended and stop arguing about it. Gook A makes X, Gook B makes Y. Both of them are probably lying to you, why would you even think about blindly trusting a gook in the first place? Try waiting like a week or two for your shitty pc parts before you buy them so you can gauge ACTUAL RESPONSES from regular people who aren't youtube shills.

>>59741480

We are just going to play dumb now that it suits your agenda?

>>59741503
I don't have any brand loyalty what so ever I'm just pointing out the double stabdard

>>59741430
Sort of a false equivalency there. Nvidia has their code in games that intentionally cripples performance on AMD cards whereas AMD code in games boosts performance on AMD card.

>>59741192
>Not an arguement
tu quoque

>>59741426
>>59736479
>>59739092
>Legendary German site about reviews

>/g/nu does not know it

>>59741519

Not just AMD, AMD tech explicitly enables optimizations for the whole industry to use. Not just their precious silicon.

>>59741519
>Le it's always someone else's fault
>it's nvidia they cripple performance for AMD
>it's Intel they Cripple performance for AMD
>it's widows they cripple performance for AMD
>theys all against us mang

Everyone so underage here they don't remember hawx.exe vs hawX.exe?

>>59741586
Not him but enjoy your Nividia Gimpworks™ my friend!

>>59741513
Good. You've earned a (you).

>>59741605
That was nothing compared to super tessellated underground (invisible) oceans.

>>59741586

Nvidia:
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/834905/real-reason-why-witcher-3-hairworks-reduces-fps/

Intel:
http://www.agner.org/optimize/blog/read.php?i=49

>Such conspiracy

>>59741660
Literally akin to the people who think bush did 9/11

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>>59741519
>the code is evil huehue
i guess it's not enough to pretend that nvidia is telling companies to intentionally over tessellate objects/things not visible

not like i've seen proof for intentional crippling
so far it just looks like amd is performing worse in the shit nvidia performs better
which in turn leads to nvidia promoting the usage of the stuff it performs better with
just like amd promotes shit12 and vulkan

>>59741679

If you don't want to read the links at least say so before you get blasted by a horse cock up your faggot ass and post some bullshit like that.

>>59741686
>pretend that nvidia is telling companies to intentionally over tessellate objects/things not visible
>not like i've seen proof

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYL07c74Jr4

itt: angry amd shills

>>59741660
if the intel compiler is so evil
why does amd not have one seeing how they are so much superiour?
no bait i'm serious
why doesn't amd make their own compiler?

>>59741761
Because AMD contributes to GCC/llvm and they're both fine compilers?

>>59741742
are you literally retarded?
the pic i posted is exactly referring to that issue

and i still have not seen any proof that shows how nvidia is telling companies to do such

>>59741788

What's in their blackbox .dlls?

>>59741784
why are people bothered by the intel compiler then?
i'm certain there are tons of shitty compilers so why is intels so important as to sue because of it?

>>59741686
Gimping PubicWorks and underwater tessellation running in a blackbox.

Disabling physx when an amd card is detected.

Not anti-competitive at all.

>>59741814
Because every game under the sun uses ICC

>>59741836

Nearly every consumer level software is compiled by ICC.

But there is no monopoly.

>>59741814
Linux and other UNIXes, everything is compiled with GCC and something with clang, 1800X Ryzen is neck-to-neck with a 6950X

Windows, everything compiled with ICC, 1800X Ryzen competes with a 6900K that's generally some 20% slower than a 6950X


Now, this is either.
Windows being shit.
Or Intel's compiler being Intel.

I'm more inclined to the latter since Intel did get fined for abusing their compiler against AMD years ago.

>>59741756

Why aren't you angry, anon?

You've just witnessed the technological equivalent of the 1970s Detroit Auto maker malaise era of shit for higher premiums then the greedy automakers ever could imagine.

Now you're seeing the slow lumbering apathetic giant GM (Intel) trying to change course while Honda (ARM) and Toyota (AMD) eat it's fucking lunch with smaller, faster, more fuel efficient cars (CPUs).

Why would you want to go back to that shitty era?

>>59741811
nonfree garbage
but that's not worth being discussed as long as one can't look into it

more importantly the more realistic thing is that crytek/some person working for them acted independently
but sure
blackbox dlls are at fault

>>59741834
nothing of which you mentioned is a fault of nvidia at least not as far as you can proove

hairworks is just an option a shitty demanding option but an option nontheless

the tessellation shit is completely the fault of the dev after all that shit doesn't magically appear ingame just cause it's added

so i guess if devs are doing shit and there are options your card can't deal with as well then nvidia is evil

wait a min i'm gonna start crying because of nvidia can't into async and amd is now gimping nvidia by promoting the usage of async

>>59741092
literally fucking wrong they said test it at any res you want but asked to test at higher res too for their 4k and qhd customers

>>59740956
>>59738032

I made this pic glad to see somebody using my OC.

>>59741836
>>59741878
>>59741917
that looks like badshit insane collusion
what's the reason for using icc over gcc
or for that matter how would amd perform when compared between ICC and GCC?
it's hard to imagine that everyone is just using ICC because fuck amd

>>59741937

>wait a min i'm gonna start crying because of nvidia can't into async and amd is now gimping nvidia by promoting the usage of async

>
the tessellation shit is completely the fault of the dev after all that shit doesn't magically appear ingame just cause it's added

It's a good thing the 480 has so much better tesselation. It's just a shame Nvidia can't do async compute like AMD with out making another "Thermi".

>>59741971
>what's the reason for X
Money, brought to you by the same company that give away atom chips for free to muscle out ARM chips from the market

Also a company with a 16 billion USD revenue per quarter, so plenty of money there.

>>59741971

Where do you want to fucking start man? Market position? Intel is the dominant market for nearly all consumer level software to run on.

How about despite it's bias it's a damn good compiler that's fast and easy? And makes compiling days worth of code so much faster?

That still doesn't change the effect on non-intel chips.

>>59741997
oh
so the tessellation is a nonissue?
wonderful

> It's just a shame Nvidia can't do async compute like AMD with out making another "Thermi"

>buying a new gpu from nvidia
it's a shame though not surprising imo

>>59742048

All it took to make it a non-issue was a major architectural overhaul, sure.

So once again, AMD with the superior product, but smaller market share gets held back by a corrupt industry.

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>>59741939
that's all nice and well

but they sound retarded nonetheless when explicitly asking for gpu bottlenecks

>>59742080
how so?
they improved their product so wheres the holding back?

for all it matters they could have turned of tessellation in driver to make it a nonissue that was an option from the beginning as far as i remember

>>59742085
Maybe they believe there are better places to test CPU only performance than 800x600 games? Like... CPU benchmarks?

>>59742085

How dare they show its competitive with the best CPUs.

>>59742111

Async makes a difference, yes or no?

If the answer is yes, why aren't we seeing more of it? Is it Nvidias market share?

If the answer is no, then why does it perform so poorly on Nvidia processors when even small amounts of specially scheduled async compute are used?

>>59742114
i fully agree
stop focusing on gaymes

>>59742118
>competetive
a 1ghz atom will be competetive with a 7700k when the cpu is not being used dipshit

it's a worthless comparison if you want to show competivness then show it in a proper way

>>59742162
>a 1ghz atom will be competetive with a 7700k when the cpu is not being used dipshit

What corelets actually believe!

>>59742153
as far as i can tell it does make a difference

because it is a dx12/vulkan feature and we have barely any of those games

and no it's not nvidias marketshare if it were that we wouldn't have any games for dx12/vulkan

>>59742178
He's not wrong, if the CPU is waiting for I/O to finish its slog, then the CPU doesn't matter.

>>59736463
>https://www.computerbase.de/2017-04/m.2-ssd-kuehler-test/
Got a post in American and not 3rd world scribble?

>>59742188

Now we have established that in order for AMD to adapt they have to change their hardware.

But as long as Nvidia can throw their weight around, they don't have to do shit and update their hardware to meet the changing needs of software.

Just so we are clear on your double standard.

>>59740931
>Implying

>>59742253

>3rd largest manufacturing base in the world
>Singlehandedly holding the European Union aloft economically

Fat fuck Americuck can't even be bothered to use babel fish translation

>>59742253
America doesn't even have an official language you living fat roll

>>59742283
>>59742288
So no 1st world source?

>>59736479
.de

Germany in German deutschland

I wonder what language this is, I don't like living in America my compatriots are fucking retarded cucks who let trump take their fucking rights.

>>59742324

How many keys do you push with your fingers at one time?

Do you need to use one of those "planck" keyboards with gigantic keys or something?

Because only fat fucks ask to be spoon fed.

>>59742368
Asking for a 1st world source is not being spoonfed.

>>5974225
so amd getting async means nvidia does not have to update their hardware?
double standard?
what the fuck are you talking about
nvidia is objectively worse here
they have to update their hardware

>>59742220

Great, then a shitty Athlon is awesome at 4k. No need for a 8 core Ryzen.

You just saved me a ton of money!

>>59736463

>talk about gamernexus
>post link for a ssd review in other site

>>59742395
See >>59736463

First World post.

>>59742432
I see no USA based website.

>>59742409
>want an amazing gaming build?
>want to play a 4K?
>don't fret you can safe up to 200$ on a cpu
>how you ask?
>it's simple
>our new intel quadK gaming cpu line runs at amazin 1000MEGA hertz
>for the low low price of 50$ you can get the gaming performance of a cpu worth 1000$

>>59742406

It ain't coming with Volta.

So when should we expect Nvidia to finally join the async compute race instead of pimping DX11?

AMD did it in a single generation.

Because we haven't even begun to see what DX12 can do. Vulkan is the closest and the performance is off the charts, well, on AMD hardware anyways.

>>59742471
as soon as it has more than a handful games?
that would be my guess

don't misunderstand me i am not defending their retarded lack of development

i just don't see a reason for them to move up yet

and who knows they might do it with the next gen that would honestly be a perfect excuse for not increasing the performance of the gpu in general

>our GTX1180 is over 50% better *(in dx12 with async) than the 1080
and in reality it would be like 5 or so%

Nvidia's DX11 drivers are interesting, they intercept drawcalls and throw threads over the cores, this can only be done with a software scheduler, of course unless you implement the same feature in hardware, but that would be pretty pointless since it needs per-game optimization.

>>59742673
It can probably be done with a FPGA, and kept updated.

>>59736463
What in the holy hell are you on about?

>>59742859
How about you read the rest of the thread, you stupid fucking nigger?

>>59742458
USA is third world now.

>>59743100
Everything that's infected with mexicans, spics, niggers, mudskins and faggots is third world.

>>59742928
Not sifting through 90% shit posting

>>59742545

Fuck you for being so fucking apathetic and simple.

Nvidia is holding the entire industry hostage because they refuse to adapt their hardware to the new software.

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=nvidia-vlk-madmax&num=3

>>59741971
ICC can be faster than GCC on really few cases, while GCC van beat ICC on some cases, ICC used to be quite faster 15 years ago
Nowadays it's management forcing people to use it because they paid for it years ago, along with classic Intel bribes
Even Apple uses LLVM/Clang instead of ICC
Microsoft's compiler works well too but it's Windows only

>>59736463
>bored look on face
>clearly doesn't want to be there
>voice just screams "i dont give a fuck"
>long smelly hippy hair disheveled just like the reviews
I have no fucking clue how this group got as popular as it did, i guess shilling nonstop works

>>59741955
lul nice dude that this pic is cringey af tho xD

>>59738032
KEK

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>>59736503
>https://www.computerbase.de/2017-04/m.2-ssd-kuehler-test/
wait... what?
What the fuck is wrong with these "gamers nexus" guys? What do they have against SanDisk to create such a farce?

What is their agenda? Is it just to cause controversy to get more people funding their Patreon? That is it, isn't it? And it's working.
What do we do?

>>59738909
DigitalFoundry is probably the only good well known one.

>>59747830
In English, that is. There is obvious computebase.de

>>59740956
Salazar Studio is the biggest uninformed shill faggot of them all.

I bet he really doesn't do it on purpose, and he's really just one of those morons that's so full of himself that he can't realize how stupid he really is.

It's Sagay, isn't it?
S a l a z a r
S a g a y

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>>59747822
>>59736463
>>59738032
You people have serious issues, seek help

Friendly reminder: Please do not say you want others to get cancer. That's a death threat. Thank you.

>>59747986

>>59738032
Somehow I feel this image file size it's too big.

where is that png optimization guy when we need him

>>59741532
Missing the joke this hard. Blatantly obvious they are being cheeky cunts.

So after reading this meandering yopic. Grease hippy purposely sabotaged a review because he had previously said they were useless and had to prove himself right? FinalSolutionBase.de does objective test and fires shots?

Why is this important? Why are people taking a youtube personality's opinion as an objective fact in the first place? Why is some GaymersNexusgate shit on /g/?

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>>59747904
You're not reading it right Steve.

>>59738032
Topkek

>>59747904
> MSI had criticized for the first tests of the M.2 Shield that sensors between coolers and components to be cooled on the SSD act as an isolator between both elements - in view of the small components on M.2 SSDs this is a comprehensible argument.
>Temperature measurements on the top of a cooler are also insufficient, as they can not show the temperature of the SSD components themselves. For this reason, a simple, but very meaningful variable is recorded: the time interval between the beginning of a load phase for the mass storage device and its first throttling.
>The Samsung 950 Pro reaches a maximum read rate of almost 2,300 MB / s in the test system. This is maintained for over a minute before the SSD starts to throttle with reaching 74 ° C. The data rate drops to a good 1,700 MB / s and drops to about 1,400 MB / s when the temperature reaches 75 ° C. Even warmer the SSD is not - to prevent this, breaks the transmission rate partial to below 1,200 MB / s. Thus the 950 Pro works in the worst case only about half as fast as at the beginning of the load phase. Nothing more: already before the first throttling, the SSD has already read a proud 170 GB.

Nope. They disagree. They just also note that other cooling solutions are even better and call Gamers Nexus out on it.

STEVE MISINTERPRETS DATA AGAIN. WHAT A FUCKING SHOCKER.

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>>59742256
>the other guy got BTFO so hard he stopped replying

>>59741605
What was this?

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>>59736463
>>59747904
>https://www.computerbase.de/2017-04/m.2-ssd-kuehler-test/
>He couldn't even be bothered to read the summary
OPINION DISCARDED

>>59738909
reddit is full of half truths than outright lying

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>>59742409
>>59742460

Good on you for being right for once AMDrone.

>>59748679
Giggle it

>>59748705
How can you use something called "hellfire" without adequate thermal management?

>>59741742
Holy shit the wood planks one. wtf.

If those people aren't being told to gimp performance for "non-approved" graphics cards with that shit, then there needs to be some developer that was fired for that and blacklisted from the industry.

>>59741971
gcc windows compiler isn't quite as good... Or did that change? 10 years ago you'd get like 5% more performance on AMD with ICC and like 20-30% more with Intel with ICC, with some exceptions where the way a program was written GCC could compile it with 4 complex instructions per cycle for AMD.
Right?

>>59749197

You should at least show CPU scaling with Doom and Vulkan. So we can at least see what actual performance DX12 is capable of when it isn't being hobbled by Nvidia.

>>59749454
Average CPU utilization needs to be on all benchmarks to begin with.

There's no reason it's not. It's just one number to add to the end of the bar or what the fuck ever.
Lazy clueless shittard """""technology review professionals"""

>>59749467

But it takes time and is so hard swapping CPUs. Aren't these youtube influencers under enough duress from AMD fan harrassment when they benchmark the wrong things?

>>59747904

I can't be bothered to search for the GN review, but didn't he say the heat shield performed worse than with no heatsink? Because those graphs aren't related to it at all.

>>59749294
Tried. Pretty hard to google shit when the only thing I know is that there is a difference between hawx and hawX

>>59749660
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/news/video/amd-nvidia-spat-msaa-cheating-hawx-2/
Literally startpaged " hawx.exe amd"

>>59741510
Not him, but if you reference something like that, give a source.

>>59742220
>>59742114
>>59741939
It's marketing you dipshits. I personally never saw 4k, or 2k and don't care for games so I dont know how low end processors perform there. And what even more illiterate normies could think? this way everyone knows that intel=amd at high res.

>>59738032
This pic is completely retarded because Gamers Nexus did test at 1440p

AMD fags are so delusional it's hilarious

>>59747822
>gaymernexuz
>pc hardware journalism
>journalism
Who would have thought (((they))) would ever do such a thing...

>>59749596
Pretty sure he's talking about data transfer rates there

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>>59739034
>>59739053
kek

>>59741955
No I did, stop trying to take credit for my work.

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>>59742348

Awww sweetie it will be ok.

Its pretty fucking amazing that you got trolled that badly and proceed to write your SJW blog about muh Trump.

Your containment board on reddit is the other way.

>>59747986
Get cancer, but I hope it doesn't metastasize

Better?

ShintelsNexus BTFO

>>59747904

This is how you know he just got bent the fuck over.

"It's the same as our results isn't it? I'm just a simple boy who don't know nuffin."

>>59752424
did any of you even read the original article? Both of them show a slow down in data rates with the shield because it's making the SSD hotter than a real/proper heat sink

"We’re hitting 93.6C versus 89.6C when under load. That’s enough to start entering throttle territory for some SSDs, meaning you potentially lose some performance to keep the thing under control. The controller temperature and its internal sensor placed by Kingston is measuring about 4C higher idle, and 4-5C higher under load."

http://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/2781-msi-m2-heat-shield-increases-temperatures