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Is there 128 bits technology in the works?

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Is there 128 bits technology in the works?
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>>59726745
lol,no
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>>59726745
lol,yes
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Who would ever need it.
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>>59726745
CERN already has it, you just don't know about it

>>59726786
you won't ever need it. It's for them.
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[GO]
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Developers haven't even maxed out 32 bit yet so what's the point. Hell, even 16 bit is still viable in a lot of cases.
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>>59726745
128 and 256 bit architectures exist, even 512.

High end GPU architectures are 256 or 512 bit
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>>59726803
this guy
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>>59726745
The architectures exist, there's just absolutely no reason to use it. Making pointers absolutely enormous so you can address more an 16 exabytes of RAM is totally useless for almost all computing currently done (possibly all? I'm not sure).
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>>59726786
Who would ever need 64-bit?
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>>59726850
Servers to properly address their 256GB RAM
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You can order them right now but the urls are so large you need a 128bit compatible browser/machine already to place the orders.
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>>59726850
The expansion in RAM capability with increasing address length is massively exponential, just because some people didn't see the need for 64 bit coming doesn't make 128 bit less insane.
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>>59726800
lol, what are you talking about!
64 is only twice as many as 32. I don't want my 2017 computers limited to only twice as many addresses and registry space as a computer from the fucking 60s. It's ridiculous how slowly this has progressed! Other components are BILLIONS of times faster, but we're stuck with CPUs that handle twice the bits. We should be at 3GB architecture by now, but instead the industry just twiddles their thumbs.
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>>59726903
this is bait right, please let this be bait
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>>59726800
fucking idiot.

maybe they haven't really for individual programs, but have fun doing any sort of multitasking with 4gb or less of ram. And no, notepad and calculator doesn't count
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>>59726941
Moor's law says that computers double every 2 years. So why did it take 50 years for CPU architecture to double?

Btw: I know this graph looks like it's increasing by set amounts, but it's because it's on a log scale.
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>>59726745
My hard drive is 500gig. Who the fuck still uses bits?
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>>59726941
excessive use of exclamation marks, of course it's not serious
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already here but 0 application

we dont have hardware efficient enough
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>>59727067
Moore's law is not an actual law but a theory
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>>59727262
Yeah. That's the only problem with that post.
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>>59727067
> So why did it take 50 years for CPU architecture to double?
8086 is 16-bit
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>>59727067
because the need for higher cpu architecture isn't really there yet. Like, why do they still put 150-200hp 4-cylinder engines in cars when engine architecture has quintupled? Because its a waste when most roads dont accommodate higher speeds
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>>59726745
There is 128 bits technology inside your computer right now.
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>>59726951
>I need more than 4 GB of ram in 2017 so I can run 180 MB js/electron based shitware like Slack
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RISCV-128.

But there isn't a use for 128-bit CPUs yet.

>>59726850

Advantage for 64-bit CPUs far exceeds the mere advantages of an expanded address space, due to the changes made for both Intel and ARM's transition to 64-bit. More registers, guaranteed SIMD instructions, and a few other benefits, depending on which ISA you're talking about.
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128-bit would have uses for speeding mathematical programs, but not much else. 64-bit is pretty much perfect.
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>>59726850
crysis
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>>59726850
4gibibytes of memory
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>>59726803
Word length and memory addressing my man. 128bits could address more memory than there are stars in the galaxy. 256? More memory than there are atoms in the whole universe.
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>>59727067
I'm still hoping this isn't bait and you aren't this retarded.
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Lets just look at the numbers

32 bit addressing:
2^32 = 4.294.967.296bit / 8 = 536.870.921 byte / 1.000.000.000 = 0.536 gb
64 bit addressing:
2^64 = 18.446.744.073.709.551.616bit / 8 = 2.305.843.009.213.693.952byte / 1.000.000.000 = 2.305.843.009,21 gb

now tell me, do you think we need to address more than 2.305.843.009,21 gb of data any time soon?
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>>59730477
>wasting your address space on memory

In my architecture, the first of an address are the IPv6 address of the computer containing the device you want to address.
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SSE
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In principle, a 64-bit microprocessor can address 16 EiBs (16 × 10246 = 264 = 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 bytes, or about 18.4 exabytes).
> tfw fell for the 16EB meme
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We've had it for decades.
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>>59727067
Moor's law is also full of shit you retard. The rate that computing technology improves is declining over time.
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>>59735098

>Moor's law

t. alberto barbosa
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>>59733801
In this sense we had 128 bits since MMX, right?
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>>59735098
in b4 quantum computers more than make up for all the delay of last years
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Yeah sure, in the year 642600.

The road plan for 128bit memory is fairly extensive.
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>>59726850
My 8GBs of memory needs it
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>>59726745
We already have 512b internal data networks for cache lines and SIMD systems with 128-512b total register widths.

There's just no near-term need for 128b integer math, 128b floating point (outside a very small number of scientific simulations) or 128b address spaces.
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>>59726745
yes
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/X86_Assembly/SSE
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>>59735141
Nope, mmx uses 64bit-sized registers.
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>>59726745
Wasn't ZFS 128? It's been around since the mid 2000s. Are you just not paying attention?
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>>59726847
>the only reason to have a larger word size is to get more memory
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>>59728412
It's funny hearing people talk like that about crysis now. It's almost nothing to run these days.
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>>59726850
kys you're self my man
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>>59726745
NASA and CERN have them for very very precise and memory intensive calculations. Otherwise there's simply no need
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>>59726847
>>59726786
>>59726800

>open mandelbrot
>zoom in
>hit max
>sure wish I had 128-bit
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>>59726745
there's no need for 128b architecture for an average customer. twice as many bits to take care of and twice as much memory being used
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>>59728327
These are just general architecture and ISA improvements and have not much to do with a change from 32 to 64 bits.
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>>59728425
Just use PAE :^)
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>>59736482
> looking at thing famous for appearing as basically the same at ever zoom level.
> annoyed that you can only zoom in a few million times to see something that would, again, be the exact same fucking thing except twisted slightly differently

/g/, everybody.
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>>59736722
verdun stella
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>>59728412

I kek'd
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>>59727067
They're talking about transistors and logic gates lol
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>>59726745
We've had 128 bit technology since '99, anon.
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>>59726850
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>>59726903
>>59727067
you don't seem to understand powers of two. going from 32 to 64 bits doesn't double the number of values you can represent, it multiplies it by 2^32. 32 bits can represent 4 billion values, 64 bits can represent 18 quintillion.
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>>59726745
There is literally no need for it at the moment. The only real benefit we would get in the near future would be more registers.
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>>59733678
a computer is addressing bytes, not bits, you shouldn't divide by 8
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>>59736482
Just use multiple precision integers then. It's dead fucking simple
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