Gamer Nexus back at Ryzen again

>>59724771

Let me know when someone competent runs their tests.

Depends on what boards they tested on, some people did test on multiple motherboards, and some had significant increases in performance, and i think gigabyte's actually had less performance.

A video is a pretty inefficient way of displaying benchmark results. Just give us an image with the graphs on it you retard.

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>>59724771

>>59724771
amd's microcode update for bios is out in may.. and was announced a month ago

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>>59724813

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>>59724771
>Gamer Nexus

A la basura

AMD retards don't care about facts.

You should know it by now.

>>59724789
Who's more competent? They're the only one that do a well documented research.

>>59724878
AdoredTV

08/15 Pajeet YT-techchannel

t.Red team

>>59724862

There is no alternative facts.

>>59724771
A BIOS update let me get from CL 15 to CL11 on my RAM

>Gamer Nexus
Isn't this that crybaby from 2 weeks ago?


>also seriously watching any YT channel with the word 'GAMER' in the name

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from the GN article

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>>59724955
You fucktard have no clue.

It's a legit site which also features YT videos.

Instead you redtards think AdoredTV is seriously neutral.

Braindamage is real amongst your kind.

>>59724955
>crybaby
wut?

>>59724955
It's Gamers Nexus retard

>>59724878

How about somebody who knows how to act like a fucking professional, instead of playing recorded conversations?

How about someone who doesn't feel his ego is more important then the data and has to add his pointless color commentary about shit instead of letting the viewer examine the results?

I can be the most thorough junk collector too, but I'm still collecting junk.

His testing is now officially garbage in, garbage out.

>>59724991
They're both shit, this being a whinny hippie while the other is a fat Scotsman .

Youtube celebs are fucking worthless, and you can shove them up your easily impressed ass.

>>59724980
Wouldn't it be nice of him to throw in the 7700K and 6900K data from Ryzens launch too?

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>>59724955
Hi i am an eater, i eat everyday.

>>59724991


No one thinks adored is neutral. But then no one is disproving him or his points either.

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>>59725015
His results are the closest to the real world, no bias or whatsoever.
> inb4 HOLY FUCK I GOT 300FPS BOOST WITH A BIOS UPDATE GIVE ME VIEWS PLEASE chanel.

Pic related is GTA V, this game benefits more from RAM speeds apparently.

>>59724997
Something something he got "threatened" and "nearly emotionally raped" by some guy on the internet and threw a massive fit.

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>>59725031
He did
> pic related
read the article, it's pretty good.
http://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/2865-ryzen-revisit-ram-overclock-windows-update-efi-updates

>>59725055
Wow, you should sic /jp/ on him, he'd probably kill himself.

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INTEL ON SUICIDE WATCH
> SHUT IT DOWN
> DON'T REVIEW THE 1800X!!!!!!

>testing while BIOSes are still in flux and updates come every few days

What a waste of time, the result now will be worthless in a week.
And then worthless a week after that BIOS update because AMD is releasing their AGESA update.

>>59724771
>see comment by GN in the OP

Then see
>>59724980
From his very own shitty review.

Is this guy legit fucking retarded? Is someone else doing this for him and he doesn't know? Split personality?

>>59725234
that improvement came from a game update, you huge faggot.

>>59725318
What game besides DOTA and Ashes had an update for Ryzen?

>>59724822
makes sense that drake listeners and nvidia owners would both be jewish.

>>59724903
yea the bios updates fix the fucking overclocking and huge improvements on ram.. coming soon in may too
and that'll be the only performance microcode update that we're getting (may)

but bios just fixes all of what we can change.. it doesn't magically add performance yet

>>59725342
officially? none.

>>59725375
It's going to be a very gradual performance gain over time

>>59725363
better a jew than getting cucked by low fps

>>59725375
MSI and ASUS have been releasing on launch day BIOS updates daily, there's wildly different performance results on them, especially on ASUS ones.

The ones impacted less by performance are the ASrock mobos.

>>59724980
That is from the TWW getting a patch as well.

Nice 20% increase from the combination of win update and game update, though.

How does that compare to the 7700k and 6900k?

>>59725048
>>59725087
>i7-7700K @ 5.1 GHz

You either need an absurd cooling solution or win the silicone lottery to hit this kind of number. Maybe both.

>>59725448
>>59725087
nvm I see it now.

So it beats the 7700k in minimum frames now. Nice.
Thanks for posting.

>>59724771
you must be from the special snowflake class.
fyi most mainboards dont let you clock ram higher then 2133mhz without bios update.
the last updates i got for my mobo allowed me to clock from 2133 to 2933mhz.

the bios literly doesnt work with higher speeds.
LITERLY DOESNT WORK.

now you shit here that bios updates dont improve performance.

please have a sphincter infarct you brain dead retard. if you want to shill at least find real problems and point them out.

When is Pinnacle Ridge/zen2? Most of these bugs should be fixed by then, and I'll have enough money for a whole new system around September.

>>59724771
>it's not the bios
>it's the thing the bios update allowed
>gaymursnexus is never wrong

>>59725469
>I have one shitty board
>but I know how most AM4 boards work

This is the first I've heard this. I've instead of heard almost everyone with a B350 or X370 getting at least 2800, though 3200 less common.

>>59725509
Explains why 80% of launch day reviewers were done with 2133/2400MHz memory.

>>59725318
>that improvement came from a game update
Except that's unconfirmed, and the Warhammer patch mentioned nothing about improving Ryzen performance.

>>59725509
>shitty board
asus prime x370 pro

thats how they rolled out the x370 chipset bios and the ram compatibility was bad to say it mildy in the begining the last several bios updates made some improvements there but still it doesnt "just work".

>>59725528
Yes. day 1.

Now that's not the case. B350 boards did take longer to get updates, but most of them seem to have them.

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The situation sure improved over day one.

Too bad all these faggots are testing gaming with the updates, not any multithreaded workloads like handbrake.

>>59725548
the b350 boards get the same firmware updates from upstream amd and these are the same that go into the x370 bios's.

>>59725566
Yes. They basically test them out first on X370 ones so they get updates quicker, then when they're more stable they get released for B350 ones as well.

I've heard of many people with many different B350 boards whether it's Gigabyte, ASRock, MSI, or Asus, all getting 2800 or 3200 fine.

>>59725565
>Tomb Raider

Wasn't that like 40% slower on Ryzen on day 1?

>>59725045
HUB has blown adored tv the fuck out twice in a row now. First with the 2500k vs fx 8370 benches and also the one where adored tv claims Nvidia are humping ryzen and that a fury x will make ryzen look better.

Adored tv is a paid shill amd affiliate and even does giveaways for amd on Twitter.

>AMD subhumans before release of Ryzen
>Gamernexus is most reliable reviewer of AMD products
>AMD subhumans after the release of Ryzen
>LOL STOP LINKING THIS SHILL

AMD niggers should put down.

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>>59725607

>>59725617

You're welcome to try.

>>59725599
With DX12 it still mostly is.

DX12 on Nvidia with Ryzen drops performance like 30-40%.
It's a problem with Nvidia's DX12 driver.

The Fury X roughly matches the Titan X Pascal in DX12 games with Ryzen, that's how bad Nvidia's DX12 driver is especially on Ryzen.

>>59725607
>HUB has blown adored tv the fuck out twice in a row now.
Lmfao no he didn't. If you believe that, you know as little about what you're talking about as HUB does.
AdoredTv is bias as shit and gets quiet a bit wrong, but not as completely full of shit and wrong as HUB is.

HUB dude is such an idiot he had no idea what was going on in those other videos nor how to reproduce them like tons of others have.

>IntelNexus

kek

>>59724771
>He still tests using Nvidia GPU's and shitty DX12 API drivers

dismissed

>>59725607
Fucking this. Adored once again was proven to be a fraud and liar.

>>59725631
https://youtu.be/nLRCK7RfbUg

Nope. I'd believe video evidence over some random spreadsheet someone made up on the net.

You all better stop talking shit on Steve, or else.

>>59725755
>I believe what I want, thanks

Ok.

>>59725755
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmLtww8SMpE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTJi_gLyXQQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBf2lvfKkxA

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>>59725755
Great evidence of Nvidia's driver being shit and their GPU sitting on its ass doing nothing?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oi14tOZ_-kg
GamersNexus was talking about testing multitasking while gaming, too.

But it kind of blows my mind that Steve seems so wishy-washy about the idea that some people would, wow, actually have two monitors. Especially people spending $1200+ on a PC.
I thought that shit was common? Am I just one of the 1%?

>>59725783
>I'd believe video evidence!!!

>>59725786
How come both companies have an Asian CEO but only one has awful drivers anymore?

>>59725786
What has this got to do with the fact adored tv claimed a fury x would be better than a 1070 on ryzen because of apparent "Nvidia ryzen gimping"?

>>59725796
Nvidia's DX11 drivers are fine, in fact they're great.


Their DX12 ones are fucking garbage, and actually lower performance than their DX11 ones in most titles.

>Overclocks a 'golden' sample 7700K to 5.1Ghz.
>Does not use the most common 4.8Ghz a 7700K every 7700K owner can expect.
>Uses Nvidia hardware only and completely ignores AMD GPU's on Ryzen because 'muh bottlencks' when Nvidia's API is the biggest fucking bottleneck out there.

I've had enough of these asswipe shill 'reviewers'.

>>59725783
>a RX 470 beating a GTX 1060 on DX12
Yeah, nvidia's drivers are just fine. Ryzen is still shit. Nothing to see here.

>>59725783
What am I looking at here? I can't see anything irregular

>>59725809
every graph has a stock 7700K you bastard

>>59725805
You're obviously not following the topic.

Nvidia's DX12 drivers can't use more than 4 cores, this gimps both Ryzen and the 6900k

While their DX11 drivers can use more than that, due to a very interesting piece of technology they have implemented.

I have nothing to say about Adored, I don't watch his shit.

>>59725835
that doesnt refute anything he greentexted

>>59725819
In a perfect world without shitty APIs and shitty pajeet developers, the 470 would be slightly more powerful than a 1060 from a pure hardware resource perspective.

>>59725851
>Nvidia's DX12 drivers can't use more than 4 cores

How do you know this? Has anyone reputable like anandtech confirmed this or is it the regular speculation based on some random scenario in a game babble?

>>59725869
1. It's not hard to hit 5GHz on any 7700K, no need for cpu lottery
2. Who even cares? Overclocked Ryzen can't even com close to the stock 7700K anyways
3. It's AMD's fault for not being able to get higher clock speeds

>>59725808
AMD DX11 drivers are fine, too.

They're actually overall lower CPU overhead than Nvidia's DX11 drivers, and the difference in performance comes from that the scheduling is done on the GPU itself after the instructions are sent.

AMD GPUs favor instructions sent as a stream constantly, not in chunks every few MS, which is what happens when multiple cores are sending instructions that get sent at different times.

AMD could split it up in their DX11 driver but... it'd be higher CPU usage overall to shave off fractions of a MS due to the overhead of so many threads doing little work.
It works for Nvidia because their DX11 drivers does A LOT more work that the hardware scheduler itself does for AMD.

>>59725834
You don't see how shit DX12 with an Nvidia GPU is running on Ryzen while the AMD GPU outperforms that in both DX11 and DX12

>>59725926
>1. It's not hard to hit 5GHz on any 7700K, no need for cpu lottery
5.0 isn't 5.1.

5.1 is something around a 20% chance at reasonable voltage.
A little over 50% hit 5.0

It's pretty shilly to include a 7700k at 5.1 as what most people can expect of their overclocked results. 4.8, maybe 4.9, is what everyone can hit.

>>59725087

What the fuck is this pic?

See 1700X OC 3,9 b693 vs b970: it's 101 vs 115 1% low and 137 vs 152 AVG. It means that there is almost no reason to fuck around with SMT.

OP-pic is misleading: of course there might be only mild improvements if you are willing to cut MT performance or rebott each time before running a game but most people would not want that.

>>59725927
>They're actually overall lower CPU overhead than Nvidia's DX11 drivers

Digital foundry proved this to be false when they tested the rx 480 vs GTX 1060 on the new Pentium. In games where the rx 480 would lead with an i7 it would crumble with the Pentium whereas the 1060 barely dropped any fps. They even said it was the amd dx11 driver straight up.

>>59725944
I get your point, but why complain about 100MHz? That CPU is probably less than 1% faster than s 5GHz 7700K, which is pretty common.

All this goes to show is that most tech reviewers are incompetent and only interested in click bait.

>>59725983
They're already arguing 5 FPS blows Ryzen TFO, of course they're going to try a completely unrealistic OC for most people to try and get that extra edge so the teeny little bar graph looks that much longer.

>>59725983
How common is it without an AIO and/or delid job?

>>59725464
>So it beats the 7700k in minimum frames now. Nice.
The overclocked 1700x and fancy ram beats the STOCK 7700k in min frames only.
>nice
>nice
?????

>>59725956
> fucking around SMT
> ever
The human eye can't see those extra 2 fps

>>59725944
Its pretty shilly to include a 1700 at 4ghz when most people can't get anything more than 3.8 on all cores and anything more requires a truckload of power with a lot of instability. Most people a far as I've seen keep the 1700 at 3.8 on all cores.

>>59724771
the bios updates allow for higher clocks on memory
you fucking moron

>>59725964
It's not the driver it's the way AMD works vs Nvidia in loading tasks onto each core. There was a video from a developer explaining it posted yesterday but I can't be bothered finding it.

Vulkan and to a degree DX12 removes this issue but Nvidia are in no hurry to allow DX12 not Vulkan to take over for obvious reasons.

>>59725964
No. They did not prove it false. It's due to the game engines in most games.

AMD's DX11 driver makes the overall load on one thread higher, which means a game needs to separate its render thread from the main thread which most don't but they SHOULD do.
Nvidia's will however use more TOTAL CPU usage by a very large margin, but it's distributed over multiple threads.

>>59726003
what did you expect from an AMD subhuman?

>>59726003
Because if you have a min and max frame too far apart you get a fucking stutterfest due to latency between each frame. I'd rather play a game at a stead 60-80 fps than a gam at 45-110 fps.

>>59726039
Nothing really. All AMDrones need to fucking die.

>>59726016
They didn't include the 1700 at 4ghz you dumb faggot.
It's at 3.9 which everyone can achieve. That's the exact reason the 7700k should be at 4.8 or 4.9 as well.

So Ryzen went from 30% slower in games to 5% slower in a month?


Yikes, I can see why some are getting nervous

>>59726064
Lets be frank here, you can achieve any clock as long as you're comfortable with the voltage required.
Both 7700k and 1700

>>59726057
Amdrones are like the feminists of the gpu/cpu industry. They claim everything is trying to oppress them and keep them down and that everything is a conspiracy against them because they think they're superior.

The only community more cancerous is the sony fanboys.

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>>59724878
>well documented research

Who /techdeals/ here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFfcv6H5yxY&t=1549s
He's pretty good in discussing Ryzen.
Also with AdoredTV: what about his https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tfTZjugDeg&t=263s
video?
I think Ryzen is great with gaming as long as RAM speeds are higher (for now).
Optimization is rolling out and it has gotten better.

>>59725809
>OMG REE they overclocked the 7700k to high! CLEARLY SHILL TACTICS
>why does it matter? The stock 7700k results are included which still beat the ryzens
>This refutes NOTHING!
Except your central point bucko.

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>>59726064
Are you stupid?

believing anything Steve Burke says. Even Ryan Shrout is jelly of how much intel dick the fabulous hair dude took since Ryzen's launch.

>>59726098
find a better research on this, faggot.

>>59726039
To deny all facts and keep moving from one excuse to other excuse. Also very selective perception.

>>59725055
That's Joker tho

>>59726096
while green and blue fanboys are simply faggots. They just bend over and take the raping, but they tend to whine when it isn't rough enough.

>>59726165
I'm pretty sure joker is an and shill. He comments about how much he loves watching the other amd shill adored tv, games benchmarks which he got called out on by numerous YouTubers and also sells amd merch.

>>59726165
I don't know who that is, I'm talking about the dude who threw a hissy fit about some alleged death threats.

>>59726200
Amd* shill

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>all these AMD cucks shit all over GN because he didn't give their processor a good review

kek

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>>59726042
>Because if you have a min and max frame too far apart you get a fucking stutterfest
Ohhhh nooo, what ever will I do, I just went from 3000 frames per second to 1000 frames per second thats a drop of 2000 frames, or 2/3rds! This suttery piece of shit intel!
Mean while my ryzen is a stable 80-85 fps, I pitty plebs that have to put up with intels sutterfest.

>>59726119
Except Tech deals is a huge AyyMD shill.

>>59726130
On the old update
>Are you stupid?

>>59726200
He just got caught lying, his Ryzen 7's were getting better performance than the 7700K on gaymen

He literally underclocked the 7700k and said it was overclocked to 5GHz

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>>59726238
>DEATH """"THREATS""""

>>59726263
Nope, that "caught lying" was disproven. The retard aussie or whatever that claimed it with his bullshit misleading "proof" video apologized.

America will always be the best.

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i never really liked gamers nexus all that much. he states to much of his own opinion as fact. i mean, i can tolerate someone shilling their opinion as fact, every now and then and backed up by good evidence, but gamer nexus does it far to often. they could at least be more open, and more skeptical about their own opinion. its good to be confident, but they're too confident.

linus might be a raging idiot, but at least he doesn't come off to confident most of the time. he just comes off as an idiot. which is why i think so many people like him. easy to relate. and when he is to confident, it creates degree of a shitstorm. people don't like arrogant assholes. which is what gamer nexus comes off.

he could start by getting a haircut and dressing decently. instead of looking like a hippy homeless man. but wait, let me guess, their super duper special methodologies show people don't admire well dressed individuals anymore than shitstain homeless people?

>pic related
gamers nexus

>>59726214
He didn't though. He was pointing out how pathetic amdrones are because he showed and proved that ryzen gaming performance was shit at the time. Funny how everyone called him an Intel shill till all the other reviewers confirmed his findings. They must feel like right idiots now. Well that or they're still deluded and are probably in the process of sending death threats to every reviewer who doesn't show ryzen to be better than the 7700k at gaming.

>>59726243
Once all the optimizations are in a RX470 + R1600 will be raping a 6700K + GTX1060 (6GB) combo. AMD gamers will be enjoying smooth gameplay and multitasking whilst Intel+Nvidia fags will be complainiung about their games + Twitch streams being a stutterfest.

>>59724771
What a fucking failure Ryzen is. 6 years and this is the best AMD could come up with? Intel wasn't even competing with them anymore and they still have much better products, AMD is absolutely pathetic. GN's video also proves that that sewer dwelling pajeet MindBlank Tech was full of shit with his ram speed benchmarks, the actual improvements with faster ram are actually completely marginal. As much as AMD shills might say otherwise, Ryzen will never match the 7700k, let alone beat it.

>>59726238
> sender name: fuck you
top kek

>>59726258
What are you trying to say? Old bios' are better now?

>>59726294
>in the future my wildest dreams will come true
Great, call me back when that ACTUALLY happens! I Don't give a shit if you think being an AMD fanboy will give you a spot next to jesus in the after life because you say so.

>>59726140
Top shit is still shit

>>59726294
Who in the year 2017 doesn't use the hardware encoder on their gpu to stream? Even chicks do that now and they all own Nvidia.

Has anyone bothered to FUCKING TEST SOMETHING LIKE HANDBRAKE OR VEGAS MOVIE STUDIO WITH FASTER MEMORY AND NEWER BIOS INSTEAD OF SHITTY GAMES!?

>>59726297
Kill yourself.

>>59726345
Chinks*

>>59726289
>They must feel like right idiots now.
AMD shills and fanboys feeling like idiots?
Are you kidding me? One is payed to push a narrative, the other is delusional and denies reality. I can't imagine a situation where AMD drones would not be blaming everything else but themselves.

>>59726294
> just wait for the optimizations guys!
> It will surpass Nvidia and Intel
> you just have to wait a little longer!

>>59726238
> because he didn't give their processor a good review
I doubt such a massive faggot like yourself would believe this, but theater reviews and processor reviews are not quite the same.

>>59726349
Add in h264/h265 to that too.

>>59726006

136 vs 154 is 10% increase for example. It's all about the brand wars. I personally only play CS1.6 and zero is the only amount of fucks I would give to 10% of performance increase because I now have E8500.

It is pleasing to see that SMT is sorted out with BIOS update. Personally I do not think that there will be any improvements before compilers and software is optimised - hey, Intel has a whole book on optimisation, they did not make it out of faggotry. This would be another improvement for something what is already a cake for me.

>>59726285
>gamers nexus. he states to much of his own opinion as fact.
Yes, exactly.

Then he whines about
>but we wrote so much!!!!!!!!!!!! spent so much time! you better accept it!

Their testing is largely pretty alright, but they inject too much (shit) opinion and do introduce bias in what exactly they test, which you can really see in the reluctance to do multi monitor tests which is a far better test of a CPU.

>>59724771
>/g/ was implying BIOS updates would DRASTICALLY improve Ryzen performance
Literally never ever, retard. What was said is that BIOS updates will enable faster memory to be used and thus improve performance.

>what really makes the difference is RAM clock speeds
OH LOOK, ISN'T THAT AMAZING, IT HAPPENED.

>>59726368
A RX480 is already going toe to toe with a GTX1060 after optimizations. The same will happen with Ryzen and when Vega comes along Ryzen + Vega is going to rape your mother with a 20" horsecock.

>>59726407
AMD is literally releasing microcode a update that will improve performance you stupid fag.

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>>59726408
>A RX480 is already going toe to toe with a GTX1060
My sides.

>>59726345
>Who in the year 2017 doesn't use the hardware encoder on their gpu to stream?
People who want a good quality stream, you shill moron.

GPU encoding is far worse quality at a given bitrate and streaming services only take a maximum bitrate so you need the best quality you can get at that given benchmark.

The encoding quality of the 1700 or 6900k at the Twitch max bitrate pretty much looks like a 95 quality jpeg while the fucking GPU encoders look like a 40 quality jpeg.
If you put the two side by side, even a moron like you should be able to tell the difference, but you've never looked for the difference and are making assumptions that leads you spouting dumb nonsense.

>>59726434
>just wait™

>>59726408
> RX480 is """already"""'going toe to toe with the 1060
But wasn't that supposed to happen from day 1? I don't get it, also, do you really believe it will REALLY surpass the 1060? really?

>>59726435
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sa7HWQzk_EQ

Stick it on Ryzen and I bet it's even faster.

>>59726349
No, only /v/ here.

>>59726461
>it doesn't count because it wasn't better on day 1 drivers and games!!!!!!
>dont you know what everyone does is get a new midrage GPU the moment a better one comes out so being better in the long term doesn't matter?!??!?!!?
>the 7970 and Fury are the worst cards ever!!!!!

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>>59724771

based gamers nexus BTFOing the poojets

>>59726476
> ignore all the games where the 1060 does better
> see this shitty f1 game? it's faster on amd, therefore AMD is faster
> just wait for the optimizations

>>59726437
>The encoding quality of the 1700 or 6900k at the Twitch max bitrate pretty much looks like a 95 quality jpeg while the fucking GPU encoders look like a 40 quality jpeg.
Are you trying to shill to people who don't have any experience in the field, or what is your plan exactly?

>>59726461
http://youtu.be/UQcq9PetoqA?t=383

>>59726504
BTFOing what poojets? Who are "the poojets" here?

Because they showed significant performance increases after just a month in their analysis there.

>>59726519
>>59726550
But the RX480 does better on average as of months ago and cherry picking proves nothing, when you test dozens of games and average them, including many Nvidia gimpworks games.
And in 1440p, the advantage for the RX480 is even greater.

That said, if all you play are games that you know are better on the 1060 like Overwatch or ME:Andromeda, then yeah get the 1060, duh.
But if you don't know what you'll be playing, or you'll play a lot, the RX480 8GB is obviously better if it's the same price or cheaper. And you can generally get RX470 4GBs in any country for the best performance/$, especially so in the USA.

What's also not arguable is how much better its DX12 and Vulkan performance is.
Do you think more future games are going to be on DX12/Vulkan, or still on DX11 and OpenGL? Because currently a bunch of old games, even ones from all the way back to 2015 and earlier, are getting Vulkan updates so they can sell them on Linux.

God. Why does everyone have to fucking shill? Why can't someone just get the best thing for their money, whether that's one brand or the other?

>32 posters
>134 replies
Ahhh, so I see how it is, eh?

>>59726437
Why are you so asshurt? Even Radeon themselves said their h.265 encoders in Polaris have much better quality at lower bitrates compared to the older encoders. There's literally no reason to pay $500 or more for muh extra coars for streaming when modern gpu encoding looks crisp enough already.

>>59726460
>c-cannonlake is just around the corner!

Nice projecting, shill.

>>59726550
Note: I said 'toe to toe' not beat. Some wins on each GPU but the RX480 is working pretty much the same overall.

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>>59726582
But the 1060 is better value for my money

>>59726582
> comparing the rx480 8GB to the 1060 3GB
TOP KEK

>>59726583
> 4 posts per ip
what's the matter? It's a fucking discussion

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>No tech reviewers outside a few foreign outliers will test Ryzen + Fury X just to see how it fares. Foreigners are dismissed because English speaking plebs are ignorant racist cunts.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

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>>59726550
What a fucking disaster the RX480 is.

Steve here from GN.

We don't hate AMD.. It's only hard to recommend them when Intel and Nvidia are simply superior in every arena. Doesn't matter if its pure performance, power efficiency, or price. Not only does Intel and Nvidia offer at least one of those points, they offer all of them. They provide the best bang for your buck because of that.

AMD might meet those criteria, but they don't offer anything that meets all of them at the same time. And that puts them into a hard spot. They become a niche provider. Ultimately we are called GAMERS nexus. So gaming comes first. I will admit, they might provide more than enough performance for games and fantastic everything else performance, they don't top the charts in games. They might top the charts in something like workstation, professional scenarios, but sadly that's not games. Even if the difference is 5%-10%, or 1 or 2 fps, when it comes to gamers, they want the best. And that be Intel + Nvidia.

>>59726632
But HUB did in multiple games and still found the 1070 to be way better

>>59726611
Making shit up. We are referring to the 6GB GTX1060. Nobody but idiots and fanboys buy the 3GB.

>>59726585
>Why are you so asshurt? Even Radeon themselves said their h.265 encoders in Polaris have much better quality at lower bitrates compared to the older encoders.
Compared to the OLDER GPU ENCODERS you dumb fuck.
It's still inferior to CPU encoding.

I'm assmad because /g/ is full of retards like you that spout shit they don't understand.

>>59726642
JIDF in full force

>>59726642
and I'm Jim from AdoredTV. Fuck orf ye hippie gobshite.

>>59726611
How was >>59726582 comparing the 8GB to the 3GB?
I don't see that anywhere in that post.

>>59726630
>4 posts per ip
>Unironically believing this is accurate
Kek.

>>59726630
>it's fucking samefagging

fix'd

>>59725015
>How about somebody who knows how to act like a fucking professional, instead of playing recorded conversations?
kek, stay mad AMDtard

This guy is pure shill

>>59726716
He's as good as Linus.

>>59726684
>>59726679
Very mature of you. You really got me. Actually, no. Our testing proves it. AMD has nothing that competes in the high end GPU department and the 1060 still comes out in the lead over the 480. The 480 might be impressive in a few, select DX12 titles, but the gap between it and the 1060 is smaller than the overall gap between the two in DX11.

The 7700K is the same. It might fall behind in multi-tasking and general workflow, but when it comes to games, it simply dominates. Even against intel's own HEDT platform. We would recommend Ryzen the same way we recommend Intel's HEDT, but its hard to when Ryzen even lags behind it in gaming. So we go as far and recommend Broadwell-e over Ryzen for those who need general, workstation, profession usage but also want to game. The 6900K might be $1,000, but those serious about multi-tasking will gladly spend it. Ryzen doesn't fit any niche at all.

>>59726727
So, he is utter shit with high quality production?

>>59726727
Linus to successful to be a shill, he a fanboy at most

http://www.windowscentral.com/amd-rx-480-vs-nvidia-gtx-1060#bench

>>59726727
Was that supposed to be a compliment?

This place has really turned to /v/, e-celeb junk everywhere, 99% of these youtube retards wouldn't know what a XOR function is if you asked them, how can anyone take what these faggots say seriously?

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>>59726750
Post tits with timestamp or GTFO

>>59726750
Let's see your virgin bitchtits fuccboi

>>59726750
Post your tittay(s), faggot.

>>59726673
What the fuck are you are you talking about? That's what I said you idiot. There is no reason to buy an expensive cpu when modern gpu offer much better quality at lower bitrates than before which makes them a good enough choice for streaming. You think everyone on twitch has a 16 core cpu and titan x sli? Most of them will be using peasant tier pc's for their mobas with low end gpu.

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>>59726642

Jesus, you people are really insecure.

>>59726820
I'm breaking that AES256 on your butt real fast, prepare yourself.

>>59726750
>The 6900K might be $1,000, but those serious about multi-tasking will gladly spend it.
This such a bullshit statement I don't even know where to start.

>>59726833
>bullshit statement

It's called trolling, anon.

>>59726833
Maybe you should start by not taking the bait.

>>59726807
You can't read.

The
>improved GPU video encoding
is still inferior to CPU video encoding.

>You think everyone on twitch has a 16 core cpu and titan x sli
Yes, virtually all the top streamers with high picture quality streams, and all the major tournaments, have a dedicated encoding machine, a 6900k, or Ryzen 7. Yes, they do. You didn't know that? Why the fuck are you arguing with me, then, when you don't know what the fuck you're talking about?
Yes, not all streamers have those rigs. Their stream quality looks much worse, which was the fucking point you retard.

Please get a haircut and I might consider listening to your shitty voice.

>>59726833
>This such a bullshit statement I don't even know where to start.
Well, it isn't. If you absolutely need eight cores for your application, but also still care about gaming, the 6900K is going to be worth it. It's 50 / 50 with Ryzen in multi-tasking scenarios, and select single threaded professional applications, but the gap when Ryzen leads, isn't that big. It also offers quad channel memory so it provides the best possible memory performance out of any platform for heavy memory sensitive workflows and most importantly, it consistently leads Ryzen in gaming. Every scenario where the 6900K leads the 7700k, guess who's below the 7700K? Let alone 6700K? That's right, Ryzen. Even the humble six core 6800K leads Ryzen in gaming.

So if every minute counts because time truly equals money in your world, and you want to game, the high entry level price tag to the 6900K is well worth it. And if you need that little extra multi-tasking performance, such as streamers or amateur encoding, rendering, extra, but don't want the price of a 6900k, a 6800K is a better value than even the $300 1700. I'm sorry, but Ryzen doesn't fit any niche what-so-ever. There are better options.

>>59726893
Nope and nope.

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>>59726945
Please stop.

>>59725422
no they haven't
I have asus rog and it's had two bios updates so far, dipshit
I ordered mine february 23rd

>>59726642
based Steve

Holy shit, stutter lakelets are getting BTFO by Ryzen's smooth frame pacing. The R5 vs i5 matchup is going to be a massacre.

>>59727041
>this meme again

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>>59726945
>getting a $1000 CPU for gaming

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>>59726991
You can see for yourself with our own reviews.
>http://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/2865-ryzen-revisit-ram-overclock-windows-update-efi-updates/page-5
>http://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/2822-amd-ryzen-r7-1800x-review-premiere-blender-fps-benchmarks/page-7
You can also see it from:
>http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_ryzen_7_1800x_processor_review,18.html
And many more by a simple Google. Guru3d I linked shows even the 6800K defeating the 1800x in most games. Even in DX12.

>>59727064
Just check the benches. The 7600k keeps up at the averages with the (heavily) overclocked 1700x but clearly struggles in the 1% and 0.1% worst FPS departments.

>>59727041
> R5
Literally broken R7's, if they only could overclock higher than the aborted brothers, but no, a fucking quad-core Ryzen will barely hit 4GHz

>>59726642
>It's only hard
he's hard for intel dick.

>They provide the best bang
see, I keep saying he loves to bend over for intel and nvidia dick

>AMD might meet those criteria, but they don't offer anything
and AMD refuses to pay him. Poor lad.

>want the best. And that be Intel + Nvidia.
one to keep the mouth busy, another for the asshole. gotcha.

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>>59726945
>but the gap when Ryzen leads, isn't that big
>when Ryzen leads, isn't that big
>isn't that big

>>59727101
We don't really know that for sure. If two shitty cores are disabled and 6 good ones remain, there is technically no reason they can't hit the same 3.9/4.0 GHz wall.

>>59726684
mindshare him Jim.

>201 replies / 40 posters

Shill thread general.

>>59727089
>Even in DX12.
>in DX12.
>in DX12 were the Nvidia driver fucks it up and leaves the CPU 30% utilized and the GPU only half utilized
geeeeeeeeee noooo waaaayyyy
hoooowwww caaaannn that beeeee ommmgggg

>>p59725786

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>>59727089
So this is the power of 6900k

>>59727089
That's a day 1 review.

>>59727110
So Ryzen is better at storing your CP and for terrorists? Fucking disgusting!

>>59727084
It seems like you have a reading comprehension problem. I never said to get it for gaming. If you read what I wrote, the 7700K is the champion for gaming but rather the 6900K is the champion for those who seek superior multi-tasking workflow performance over the 7700K, but superior gaming performance over Ryzen. If you need just better multi-tasking performance, such as amateurs, not professionals, but still seek the best possible gaming performance, the 6800K is the King. Better multi-task than 7700K, but superior gaming performance over Ryzen.

>>59726750
I can't hear ya. I think the two cocks in your mouth are making it difficult to understand.

>>59727146
7700k, 6900k and 1800X BTFO BY AN I5

>>59727146
> 7600K faster than 7700K
totally legit guys!

>>59726945
>Even the humble six core 6800K leads Ryzen in gaming.
>humble $400 CPU with humble ~$250 mobo

>>59726945
>Well, it isn't. If you absolutely need eight cores for your application, but also still care about gaming, the 6900K
this level of blatant shilling. I'm starting to believe that it's really him. Even our ordinary idiots aren't that retarded.

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>>59727146
Well you highlighted a 1400p benchmark. 1440p that doesn't suffer CPU bottlenecks as 1080p does to highlight CPU performance
pic related, the 6800K defeating the 1800X. Even a 8350 will be on the heels of a 7700K in high resolutions like 4K because at 1440p and higher, you are GPU bound, not CPU. Yes, its even faster than the 6900K thanks to its higher frequency over the 6900K. Broadwell still has superior single threaded gaming performance over Ryzen.

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>tfw 4790k @ 4.5

>>59727206
The vast majority of users, not just gamers, still don't require eight threads, let alone sixteen. If you do, absolutely do, you most likely will be a professional where $1,000 would be a drop in the bucket. Let alone, the type of work you do, will allow you to easily, quickly, recoup that investment. That's why I state amateur, because those seeking a $300 - $400 eight core will most likely not be professionals. If that's you, a non professional who simply messes around with things like virtual machines for fun, but still CARE about getting the best possible gaming performance, something along the lines of a 6800K would be better suited. A 6800K will more than be enough to easily handle things like virtual machines with its twelve threads just fine but also give you the best possible gaming performance. Better gaming performance than Ryzen.

>>59727213
Ryzen has been shown to have problems with Far Cry Primal. Should probably be tossed out in the short term as a valid benchmarking game until it gets figured out (if it gets figured out.)

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>>59727274
>if it gets figured out.
Well isn't that the problem with Ryzen? You're at the mercy of developers. It will always be a "waiting" game with Ryzen.

>>59727273
People don't require 8 cores, because there is no software that meets the demand, there is no software that meets the demand, because consumers don't own the hardware.

It's almost like, software devs build software for hardware or something.

>>59727293
>Well isn't that the problem with Ryzen? You're at the mercy of developers. It will always be a "waiting" game with Ryzen.

Let's see, is a software problem, hardware problem?
Let me think on that one for a day or two.

>>59727293
I suppose, but in the meantime you've saved tens if not hundreds of dollars vs. a comparable X99 based platform when factoring in cooling and motherboard costs.

I'm not saying Ryzen is for everyone but from a value standpoint, what the hell even comes close from intel? If you think the 7700k is aimed at the same exact market segment then you're just wrong.

Regardless of AMD's stupid last minute gaymer marketing, Ryzen 7 is just a very good all-around workhorse. Intel is forcing consumers into one or two different boxes with HEDT existing. AMD is offering 85-90% of both worlds for a very reasonable cost.

>>59727230
>tfw 4690k @ 4.4

feels good man. this thing is solid for 1440p 60fps with my 1070. it will last a good few more years yet.

>>59727273
damn guise, a real live shill.

>>59727374
>60FPS

You don't play at 144Hz? What are you retarded?

>>59727374
> haslel
enjoy you're firehouses

>>59727325
The fact that a Piledriver chip beats the Ryzen chip should tell you something

>>59727388
Maybe he doesn't care about cawadoody and its ilk, because outside of FPS high refresh panels can't really justify their price.

>>59727310
If that was the case developers would have started to push out games like candy that supported eight cores or more starting with bulldozer. but it never happened. But wait! We have already had processors with eight threads since 2009. i7's. And yet, only now, eight years later, have we been starting to get games that could support eight threads. Meanwhile people have been buying eight threaded capable processors for eight years.

Developers would only have programed for eight threads if the application actually benefited from it. If the game ran 60+fps with just two - four threads, then why program for eight? The only reason why lately we have seen an increase in thread count for games has been because of the slow down in single threaded performance. Something that AMD themselves with the release of Ryzen has shown they too cannot tackle as Ryzen falls in line somewhere between Haswell and Broadwell level of single threaded performance in games.

I don't mean to knock Ryzen's single threaded performance. There is a reason why I always add gaming after I mention its single threaded performance and that's because it depends on the single threaded workload. In workstation type programs, Ryzen's single threaded performance rivals Kaby. In others, it barely surpasses Haswell. There must be instructions in games that Ryzen just isn't as efficient as Intel is really what i truly believe is at fault. Not the interlink between the two quad cores in Ryzen, but some instruction set that games commonly use that slow it down.

By the time where its common for games to scale to sixteen and above threads, Ryzen will be antiquated, along with Kaby and Broadwell-E. Even right now the amount that can you can count with a single hand. Two - three years from now it might take both hands and possibly a foot. Nothing to write home about and three years from now, Ryzen, along with Kaby, will be old news.

>>59727293
That game is better on AMD GPU's with DX12. But all the tech reviewers only test with Nvidia's API so it makes both DX11 and DX12 look bad for Ryzen. Nice smokescreen.

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>>59727362
>Ryzen 7 is just a very good all-around workhorse

>>59727273
>The vast majority of users, not just gamers, still don't require eight threads, let alone sixteen. If you do, absolutely do, you most likely will be a professional where $1,000 would be a drop in the bucket

you don't need 8c/16t you pleb. and if you, make sure to buy intel. because their cores are so awesome that they cost twice as much. lol, what are you, poor?

that's what you said.

>most likely will be a professional where $1,000 would be a drop in the bucket
only retarded people would dare say such nonsense out loud. Or shills, paid to do it. Which one are you, I wonder...

>>59727424
It tells me that Nvidia's driver gimps the results. It could not be more obvious.

>>59727424
It also beats a 6900k

I guess Bulldozer was just that much better than Broadwell-E released 5 years later, Intel literally BTFO

>>59727433
bulldozer never had any significant share in PC gaming, 20% at max, why would you do special game for bulldozer that nobody would care about?
also games did start pushing 2core and 4core games ever since C2D and C2Q.

>>59727407
i'm using a shitty cheap cooler and it never really goes above 55/60 even when under full load. that's cool enough for me.

>>59727293
In what universe is an FX chip going to be faster than an i7 extreme or 1800X? that benchmark is complete BS

>>59726829

Are you coming on to me?

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>>59727463
Gordon Frohman doesn't know shit about CPUs, get the h*ck out of here, kid.

Why has nobody tested Ryzen with a Fury X vs a GTX 1070? REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

>>59727539
Pretty sure Hardware Unboxed did a 295x2/1070 Ryzen comparison. Not a Fury but it was still interesting.

>>59727563
295x2 was to emulate rx480 in crossfire.

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It's really interesting how garbage Windows is, it literally take Windows 10 times the clock cycles to do SpawnThread()

>>59727573
Fuck off poo, Linux is shit

>>59727573
>>59727599
that reminds me, let's try to summon Wendell too.

>>59725607
>>59725735
Here's his response and why you're wrong -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFBKFz9n2hc

>>59727474
The amount of four threaded games that came out before Nehalem you could count with both hands. It wasn't until Sandy where it was semi-common for games that utilized four threads and not until Haswell where it was common place. Two threads was fairly common by the time Nehalem launched and that was five years after the first dual core CPU's landed.

Your also implying Ryzen will take off and take a large portion of the pie away from Intel. It won't. Consoles? Yeah, at most, eight threads... A year and a half, two years from now when the successor of Ryzen has launched and Intel releases Cannonlake.

Your rehetoic was the same rhetoric people spewed about Bulldozer. And by the time it happened, Bulldozer was irreverent outside the diehard fanboy base because even truthful fanboys admitted defeat with that rhetoric. All of this has happened before, and will happen again.

Ultimatly its simple. You care only about gaming? Kaby. Your not a professional but need more multi-threaded power than Kaby, but still care about gaming? Broadwell-e with a 6800K. You are a professional and need superior multi-threaded power than Kaby, but still care about gaming? Broadwell-e with a 6900k. Don't care about gaming? Ryzen. You game, but don't care about best possible performance? Ryzen.

>>59727632
He'd probably call this thread inane like RMS would, I don't think he cares about gaming at all.
Probably for good reason, if I had that much hardware as he had, I wouldn't care either.

>>59727644
Yes, with sandy 2core and 4core was more common, and thus software was made to accommodate that. that was my point and nothing else, everything else you are talking about is bollox.

>>59727640
This. Hardware Unboxed was completely blown the fuck out and actually didn't even understand (and probably still doesn't) the point AdoredTV was making initially.

>>59727644

Those six core i7s are going to make you feel foolish.

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>>59727644
Great compute performance there folks, that $1000, $250 motherboards and 250W loads, and 4 channel memory is really worth it.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-7-1800x-cpu,4951-10.html

>>59727730
Tom's staged benchmarks aren't valid, they're known AMD shills

>>59727682
Your point has flaws. i7 where still hugely popular for Intel. i5's did outsell, but that didn't mean i7's didn't sell well. They did. Extremely well. Even AMD pumped out six core phenom ii's that were surprisingly successful in the budget gamer arena because back then, they offered excellent performance for their price. Better than Intel in the same price bracket. More than four threaded processors where common. Very common from 2009 onward.

>>59727644
goddamnit, you are the cancer in the industry.

>>59727762
Nice alternate reality, Shlomo.

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>>59727762
you wat nigga?
really?

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>>59727762
I guess benchmarks from a dude who's been selling servers for the last 2 decades don't count too.

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>>59727762
really?

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>>59727815

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>>59727762

>>59727730
Like others, you failed at reading comprehension.
>You are a professional and need superior multi-threaded power than Kaby, but still care about gaming? Broadwell-e with a 6900k.
>Kaby
I've always implied, and stated, against Kaby for multi-threaded performance but still require the BEST possible GAMING performance. Have I made that clear now? I have stated countless times, just recently again earlier, that Broadwell-e vs Ryzen professional workflow are truly 50 / 50 with each other. For a pure professional workflow only scenario Ryzen is the best possible performance as it provides you the same, or better Broadwell-e performance for a fraction of the price. Even in single threaded professional workflow. But for whatever reason, when it comes to gaming, its single threaded performance has a regression and falls in line somewhere between Haswell and Broadwell. Which is why, like I already stated earlier, I believe its a instruction set issue. Not some of the more common theories spewed about such as scheduling due to the interlink speed between each quad core in Ryzen, but rather a common instruction set used in gaming that hurts Ryzens gaming performance.

>>59724955
No he does good reviews

What do you have against gamers?

The fact is that Ryzen is kicking Intels but. Only a bunch of retarded gaming fags are trying to make you believe otherwise. Go back to living in your parents basement playing with your Exbox dweebs..

>>59727847
It's not a instruction set issue because DOTA, Warhammer and Ashes have pushed patches specifically for Ryzen's unique CPU topology and gained massive performance increases, other games will follow suit, not all of them, but enough to significantly close the gap which was over 20% at launch to something under 10% which is now.

>>59727762
You mean the same AMD shills that recommended a Presshot over K8?

Holy shit this is some grade SSS+ delusion

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>>59727887
>Dota 2
It didn't. All it did was fix minimum frames due to scheduling conflicts.
>Warhammer
No where in Warhammers patch notes mentioned Ryzen performance improvements.
>Ashes
Some odd reason, only in the benchmark. People on /r/AMD subreddited even admitted lower than excepted performance in the actual game.

And regardless, iirc, Broadwell-e still is faster in all those titles. As you can see, even with a fully patch Ashes with the Ryzen update.

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>>59727310
>WELL JEE GOLLY WHAT DO YA NEED A DUAL CORE PROCESSOR FOR?

>WHAT IN TARNATION DO YOU NEED 4 GIGBABYTE HARD DRIVE FOR? HOW WILL YOU FILL IT UP?

>A WHOLE GIG OF RAM? ARE YOU INSANE? THAT'S OVERKILL!

>>59727859
no he doesn't.

He's another idiot who has no idea the fuck he's talking about but happens to have a somewhat popular youtube channel. Pretty sure he got a surplus of 50k subs after his Ryzen review, with intel fanboys flocking to him just to spite AMD fanboys. He'll ride that wave until he gets to 500k, no one gives a damn to ethics when it gets you more subs, and now that he found this easy way of stirring clicky bait polemics and tending the flames for fanboy wars, he won't let it go so easily. He'll probably double down his stance for team green and blue for the foreseable future.

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>>59727762

>>59724845
They should really order it by the lows not the average.

Of course all these game cpu graphs show is that outside of competition twitch gaming, pretty much any 4+ thread processor is good enough for now.

>>59728007
Again AotS is not a huge jump because they were still testing on Nvidia with gimped API. Until Vega comes along we cannot truly assess Ryzen's performance because Nvidia are a huge fuck up.

>>59727859
No he shit, 30sec running on some alley to test GTA V, seriously

>>59727859

>overblowing 1-5% performance difference in games way the fuck out of proportion
>playing down on benchmarks any oldfag would recognize, you know cpu centric ones
>forgetting the platform costs, foucusing cost comparisons on kaby lake and literally hiding the costs for intel hedt under his 11 thousand words.

great job, senpai.

>>59727293
>100fps
What the fuck. I've seen Ryzen averaging like 180 with 2 RX480s in this game.

How is it Ryzen's fault that Nvidia driver is shit?

>>59727762
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>59724886
He's actually a swedcuck

Wait /g/ unironically likes this retard now?

He's a fucking clown, breaks hardware all the time

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>>59728143
And this brings me back to my other point: >>59727293

But really, I have no connection to Gamers Nexus (really, should this come as a surprise?). I'm a troll, a happy 1800X troll. I did it because I wanted to make a point. Don't over hyper Ryzen beyond what it is. A good solid processor that's truly highly competitive against Intel.

A point I made in post: >>59726642
>they might provide more than enough performance for games and fantastic everything else performanc
Just be honest about Ryzen. It doesn't top the charts, but its also not terrible. Not even close to being bad. It's actually great. Unlike Bulldozer, Ryzen not only is capable of 60fps+ at ultra settings at 1080 at release, not only 100fps, but actually gets over 110fps+ at release. Bulldozer couldn't even obtain solid 60 at release. Bulldozer was an absolute failure of epic proportions, but Ryzen isn't. Not even close.

Ryzen is the best price to performance all-around processor on the market right now. You can't go wrong with a 1700 overclocked to 3.8ghz for the price. Excellent gaming performance with amazing everything else that rivals Intel HEDT platform. But market, hype it, as that. Don't blow its expectations out of the water in gaming. It's only going to hurt AMD in the end. Be truthful, its not top of the charts in gaming, but its close but everywhere else it shines and offers overall a better experience.

>>59728348
was this you?
>>59727762

really wanna know.

>>59726284
Could you show where did he apologize?

I love what shitty tech reviewers benchmarking methodology leads to.
This is great.
>>59727472

>>59728418
no, it wasn't.

>>59727762
>>59727806
>>59727815
>>59727826
>>59727845
>>59728085
You guys don't get it.

Anon's making a joke about how Tom's Hardware have been one of the top Intel shills that vaguely tries to feign credibility for like 15 years straight.
They'd recommend a Pentium 3 over a Thunderbird.

That's what makes it so funny.

>>59728007
GN tested without AoS update.

>>59728590
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd,198-10.html
kek they didn't strictly say it, but that conclusion.... very little good, and a whole slew of "could be" problems even though they very quietly say its great. they really tried to bend over backwards and promote the P3 at the end of the conclusion.
>you might want to wait! cause... but... intel might be force to lower prices of the P3!

>>59728687
they did. one without, one with it.

>>59726586
Daily reminder
>mobile 10nm cannonlakes will perform worse than their 14 nm counterparts

>>59726642
>in every area
wew lad, ever seen openSSL?

>>59726750
were your parents related like before they got married?

>>59727146
the $1100 cpu is worth it - steve

>>59728772

Will it break 3.5Ghz clockspeed do you think?

>>59728895
No. Mobile only.

Coffeelake will be 14nm and will bring 6 core on mainstream socket.

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The minute GN gives them numbers they don't like, suddenly he's a shill.
AMD fags are a cancer.

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>>59724771
NEW AMD HATE THREAD
>>59729398
>>59729398
>>59729398

>>59728707
>http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd,198-10.html
LMAO holy shit.

I mean I gave cursory glances to Tom's Hardware when I was a kid and built my first PC. So I remember their shilling...
But this is too poignant.

>fully able to compete against Intel's Pentium III
Yeah. It completely blew it the fuck out, and blew out the P4 followup as well, both in absolute performance and performance-price.
>The bad news about Thunderbird is the fact that current owners of Athlon systems will face problems to upgrade to the new AMD-CPU
Uhuh. And I'm sure as a tech analysis you see the P3 has hit a performance barrier, know the P4 is coming, and the P4 won't be the same socket, don't you, Tom?
>until finally 'Willamette' will start the performance race again.
Except it didn't. A 1.33ghz Tbird next year was about 30% more powerful than a 1.4ghz Pentium4 while being about 35% cheaper. Twice the performance for the price.

>>59727293
Kill yourself, shill.

>>59727230
ma nigga...

best upgrade CPU ever

>>59728348
Don't listen to this Ryzen shill, get Intel and don't look back.
Here is the philosophy of waitfags:
>you have 2 bottles of milk in your fridge, one is old one is new.
>drink the old one first, in the meantime the new one becomes old
>now buy a new bottle of milk, and repeat
They get cheap shitty components over and over rather than buying a new top-of-the-line component and using it for 5 years.
And they're always defending their meme component, invalidating benchmarks, and swearing the next model will btfo intel
>protip: it never has, and it never will

>>59725015
>How about somebody who knows how to act like a fucking professional, instead of playing recorded conversations?
>
>How about someone who doesn't feel his ego is more important then the data and has to add his pointless color commentary about shit instead of letting the viewer examine the results?

All irrelevant. Point out legitimate criticisms his methodology or his results and I'll care.

>>59726042
adaptive frame syncing tech does a lot to alleviate the problems that causes.

>>59724771

>Steve Burke: Ryzen won't get better
>Ryzen gets better when game devs optimize (31%!!!!)
>Steve Burke: EFI BIOS DIDN'T HELP BUY INTEL

pathetic, any youtube channel with the word "Gamer" in it is shit by default

>>59729819
1800X beats the 6900K in pretty much everything for less than half the price, keep crying shill

>>59726969
Keep trying to pretend shitty ASIC's are anywhere close to x264 dumb shill

>>59727155
SHA1 isn't encryption dumb shill

>>59730390
The BIOS and Windows updates have bumped it up enough to crush the 6900k even harder. rofl.
In some regards it was close. Now virtually the only thing it's worse in is not having quad channel memory or as much memory support, and AVX2.

>>59725087

>CPU benchmark on a fucking video game

Doesn't the retard Steve Burke understand that you use a GPU to game on? Ryzen doesn't have an iGPU so how the fuck did he get those numbers if the CPU itself cannot display to a monitor? You need a GPU for that


i fucking hate this buzzfeed tier clickbait idiot

>>59725607

>First with the 2500k vs fx 8370

which he was proven WRONG on in adored latest video. HUB was referring to other sites, and adored checked the other sites that the 8370 was indeed beating the 2500k. see the video again.

you cannot trust the major review sites anymore man, they are shit.

>>59725087
their numbers are freaking retarded every time, nobody has those numbers
it's like they test in most undemanding parts of the game, like menu or global map

>>59727640
>>59727720

this is correct. facts stated in videos and multiple sources.

>>59730633
>Doesn't the retard Steve Burke understand that you use a GPU to game on?

you are the one retarded

>>59727188
guru3d doesn't include minimums
6900K is better for gaming than 7700K because it feels better
same way 1700

i5 and lower is stutterfest

>>59730724
At least the G4560 is cheap as shit and justifies sometimes being a stutterfest.

The i5-7400, i5-7600k, and shit like that have no excuse for how much they cost.

>>59730743
1400 hits right in the middle of the market between those two

>>59725453
Intel always sends golden samples to influencers.

>>59730756
AMD did the same with 1700
hardocp could OC AMD sample to 4.0
and 4 CPU they bought for testing got stuck at 3.9, at reasonable voltages

>>59726642
>power efficiency
You know thats a lie steve

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>>59730423
>lying this hard
Back to india

I love all the Ryzen drama circulating youtube atm. All the review fags are at eachothers' throats with the anti-AMD camp trying to prove the pro-AMD camp as liars or frauds or whathaveyou (and vice versa) while disingenuously presenting the benchmarks of others. It's so pathetically personal and petty. They're all a bunch of schoolgirls.

>>59726642
>says the guy that uses CUDA for "bideo" encoding

no wonder your videos look like shit, read up on the subject

>>59730788
can you count?
>7 games
>3 for 6900K
>4 for 1800x
>pretty
>much
>everything

>>59730789
War, war never changes.
It was even worse then, now it's just more visible.

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>>59726344
>my rebuttal is shitposting

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>>59730809
The 6900k is clearly superior
Can't you see hitman and shadow of mordor?

>>59730753
1400 will surely be better in a few games even, like The Witcher 3, that use HT well.

>>59730861
clocks are low, at 3.8 sure(apparently it can go there)
not at stock

>>59730876
All ryzen chips should be able to hit 3.7-3.8

>>59730876
That reminds me, GN will surely compare it to 7600K at 4.7 or other bullshit.

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>>59730788
>lying this hard
Back to Israel
>>59730852

>>59730876
Clocks Are fine. A stock 7700 which is 3.8/4.2Ghz outperforms a 4.8Ghz 7600k in Witcher 3 by about 25%.

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>>59730900
Which is ridiculous all things considered

>>59730920
>he unironically supports terrorists
libtard

>>59730900
Won't matter if they compare it to a 5.1Ghz 7600k if they test a good assortment of games instead of cherrypicking the few that don't utilize HT/SMT.

And I mean few. The vast majority of games benefit from it as of the past few years. Even 3 years ago it was like 50% of games. The past year it's been closer to 90% of AAA games.
see: >>59730920

>>59730920
The 7700k overclock there would surely be more around 170/160 if not for the GPU bottleneck.

That's why tards think the 7600k == 7700k. They see GPU bottlenecked """"benchmarks"" that are even worse than that.

>>59730963
>titan x at 50% utilization at 720p
>295x2 at 100% utilization at 720p
>50% fps difference

when will this meme die? it's not 2001 anymore

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Come on intelfags, beat this.

>>59724771
>fucking bored looking cunt reading shit
>looks like he doesn't want to be there
>nasty ass hair
just fuck off with this shit.
>>59724789
this serisously.

>>59724771
Is this the same clown who said that high core count CPUs aren't necessary because all of it can be done on a GPU faster?

Seriously, that's some grade A ignorance.