Can we have a mature discussion about Xfce and KDE? Pros and

I sacrifice some of the quality of life stuff in exchange for the lower resource usage I can get with xfce.

I like the look of Qt more, but use XFCE for stability and customizability.

>>59723316
it depends on the computer specs and personal preference.

xfce
>great for ricing
>great on low spec computers
>low performance in general

KDE
>Looks nice
>high performance
>Can rice or just not care

granted theres more but I don't know to much about kde or xfce other than those

>>59723348
>>59723415
I get it. I am considering going back to xfce but i was always irritated by the shitty file manager and tray icons that look shitty and inconsistent..

>>59723463
I'm pretty happy using Numix with Paper icons. I can live with the imperfections.

XFCE is nice. Very basic, works, light on resources.

Not sure why you're hung up on looks as it can be tweaked.

>>59723348
>>59723450
>>59723539
I dont get you people. You always use the argument that Xfce is lighter on resources. How much are we talking about here? Hundreds of MB of RAM? It cant be that much, just cant.

>>59723450
>KDE looks nice
not at all

>>59723584
I count tens of MB when it comes to system resource usage. I've got old and modest hardware, so I need what I keep available for task usage.

>>59723316
Both are great but I prefer KDE because of krunner, dolphin and Qt.

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>>59723707
But it does.

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This is a full KDE installation on Arch running on an X201
GNOME would run at 2.5 gigs on idle and would constantly overheat the machine.
So fucking glad its fully stable, you can also disable all the bullshit animations and whatnot, so it's basically a more modern XFCE at this point.
I don't even need to run a separate compositor!

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>>59724963
Oh, and gnome would give me like 40 minutes of battery if I was lucky
Meanwhile on KDE I'm easily sitting through 3 hour lectures with no issue

I'm on XFCE and I want to kill myself the tearing is so bad on NVIDIA. I can either:
>use Intel and everything runs like shit but is tear-free
>use NVIDIA and everything runs amazing but if I move a window fast enough literally half of it can be torn
Fucking shit

>>59725032
install the latest drivers and enable the forcefullcompositionpipeline option

>>59725032
try Manjaro Xfce , not trolling

XFCE has been my favorite desktop environment like since the day I first tried it. Everything I need from desktop environment without extra bullshit.

KDE has gotten so much better with version 5, holy shit.
It's running buttery smooth with all eyecandy and blur enabled on my piece of shit laptop. It also looks great and just works without having to rice or configure anything.

thoughts on bungie or whatever its called? it looks nice, minmialist which I need.

Also, why the fuck if I have barebones xfce4 it comes with fucking xburner or some shit to burn discs. I even dont have a cd drive.

>>59723316
kde neon vs kubuntu?
why the fuck the neckbeards have to create so much similar projects.

>>59723584
200MB on boot
700MB on Google Chrome
1.75GB Two Chromes one with two tabs and a video playing

>>59725032
compton?

>>59725225
and thats on xfce? wtf

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>>59725256
yes! KDE a shit resource whore
GNOME3 a useful resource hog
Budgie is retro gnome and hogs
XFCE is lightweight and can be used as anything

>>59725292
so how much does KDE takes on boot and with chrome?

>>59725292
What about MATE?

>>59725209
neon, it's a layer of more up to date packages made because kubuntu became embarrassingly bad

xfce4 is deprecated long time ago.

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>>59725429
I get very low memory usage with XFCE and i like it more than plasma, less windows-y

>>59723316
I like XFCE because their logo is a cute mouse.

>>59725429
>>59725460
Didnt mean to reply my bad

>>59725307
I haven't run it in a while but here's what I remember
>800MB on boot
>1.25GB Chrome
>2GB Two Chromes two tabs and a video
>>59725353
take my XFCE numbers and add around 50-100MB
>>59725439
recently updated to 14.13 and actively developing you fuck.

>>59725479
>actively developing you fuck.
post their dev schedule if you dare

>>59725487
>Xfce isn't being rewritten from scratch every two years
>hurr deprecated

>>59725460
showing your memory usage means nothing while a browser is running

>>59725516
Aye check on the right screen, that's my usage just after a restart. Htop is showing current usage with Dropbox, spotify and firefox with 4 tabs

>>59725516
>>59725557
Meant on the left my bad

>>59725504
>rewritten from scratch
ahhahah source on this

>>59725479
wrong.

I'm a long time GNU/Linux user and I believe I know what I'm talking about. XFCE has been abondoned long time ago is and is filled with security holes and just deprecated software.

Considering /g/ is very aware of botnet dangers, I'm amazed anyone uses anything than GNOME desktop. If you don't, then xfce is the last DE to use for the mentioned reasons.

XFCE is deprecated and I consider it harmful.

>>59725487
i don't but goddamn dude, a recent release shows activity and lack of inactivity. I do admit that the team was ded for like 3~ish years
>>59725681
show me security holes and deprecated software on XFCE?
>suggest GNOME to avoid botnet
nvm this was bait and I fell for it.

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>>59725681
thats not just bait, its blasphemy

shame on you fampai

KDE is super buggy garbage.

>>59725706
>show me security holes and deprecated software on XFCE?
learn how to read code, kiddo. I doubt you even know how to code, using that shiny atom BROWSER as a text editor won't help you much.

enjoy your de from 1996, malware, and no modern updates. if people don't want an advice, then they can't be saved anyway. probably you're one of those kids who disable selinux the first thing because it's too complicated. go and cry to your mother nigger because life is tought.\

**vim user since december 1991**

Honestly I think it's insane that people call KDE bloated even if it does use more RAM than a lot of other desktop environments. Mine uses 350MB RAM on boot (with the file indexing service enabled and Yakuake running on startup). This is still far less than Windows or OS X. Additionally, unless your machine really truly does not have enough RAM, using more is frequently better. There are many things in programming where you literally have to pick between RAM heavy or CPU heavy operations. I would far rather the software I use be heavier on the RAM in exchange for being lighter on the CPU for any given task being performed unless I have insufficient RAM to begin with.

>>59723316
Kde it's bloated xfce not that much. But i wouldn't dare to sacrifice the ease of use of xfce just for some eye candy and neither will use something as minimal as jus the window manager and other light weight apps, turns pretty annoying in the long run.

>>59723316
>What do you choose?
MATE because:
-Gahnoum 2 was a comfy
-Lightweight if you want it to be
-Can use fancy effects with compiz if you want it to use them
-Fairy rice-friendly
-Lots of themes, including aesthetic 2004-tier ones

>>59726014
>But i wouldn't dare to sacrifice the ease of use of xfce just for some eye candy
Real users disable all the animations anyways. The only thing my compositor is turned on for is transparency, because I actually find it to be useful/practical to adjust the transparency of a window with keyboard shortcuts. I've tried using Xfce on several occasions, but always find myself going back to KDE.

>>59723707
Since plasma 5 it's IMHO the best looking DE OOTB.

>>59725971
>>59726014
Kde used to be bloated back in the plasma 4 (kde 4) days and i considered it a, while well featured, a heavy environment. It also has a lot to do with how the distro packages it, for example kununtu ships a lot of bullshit by default which is largely related to the project KDE PIM (which includes akonadi). Since i started to use KDE neon my perception changed completely. Neon only ships what is necessary by default takes only around ~400MB at start for me which is a lot less than windows or unity, also it is in general lightweight with the cpu usage and KWIN takes good advantage of the GPU. To this day i definitely consider that plasma 5 is definitely not bloated.

>>59726265
use your distro of choice's minimal plasma 5 metapackage and it's great, less than <200mb ram with working everything

Until recently, I was using KDE on a shitty Dell Latitude D620 with a core 2 duo 2GHz processor and 2GB RAM. Ran smoothly.

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>>59726376
KDE runs poorly for me on older hardware. I was using swap just to run a browser

This is just with 4 tabs in /g/, if I open youtube it'll take up 1200mb or so

>>59726517
how are you so fucking dumb to conflate the DE with firefox shittery

>>59726549
im pointing it out from a usability perspective on lower end hardware

or 200mb XFCE at boot vs 800mb+ KDE, you autistic prick

>>59726690
install your distro correctly, kde uses 150mb on my shit core 2 duo

>>59723463
You can install other file managers like Dolphin or Caja. You can use whatever file manager tickles your fancy, you dumbass.

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>>59723316
For some reason KDE has a reputation for customizability, but it is nowhere near as custimizable and modular as XFCE. I can't do with KDE what I do with XFCE.

>>59725681
By your logic, Debian Stable (Jessie) is riddled with security holes because it uses old software. You're a tard. You have to go back Pajeet.

>>59723316
Use LXQt

>>59725681
https://wiki.xfce.org/releng/4.14/roadmap

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>>59725896
How long you've used vim is not an argument

my issue with XFCE is lightlocker. Full screen videos don't stop the damn screensaver. I disabled it and now I don't have to worry. Of course, I can't lock the screen anymore either. Fuuuck.

>>59728231
Just use xscreensaver, gnome-screensaver, xlock, or slock.

>>59728231
You can use an alternative to lightlocker. What's with all the tards on /g/ today?

>>59728284
>>59728314
s-sorry. Been using Xubuntu for a couple years, just only started watching videos on it.

>>59728231
I don't have this issue in Fedora. What distro are you using?

>>59728429
Xubuntu 16.04. It's a known issue with no solution. Just installed xscreensaver instead.

>>59727617
>For some reason KDE has a reputation for customizability, but it is nowhere near as custimizable and modular as XFCE. I can't do with KDE what I do with XFCE.
Care to provide some example? not trying to contradict you, i'm just curious because i feel i can practically change anything on KDE.

>1970+47
>Using a DE

What is Ubuntu's Unity based on? It runs pretty fucking smooth on my shitty laptop.

Also, xfce runs awesomely smooth. It never crashes/lags and has low resource usage.

Stop having this fucking thread every day. Try them out yourself and CHOOSE THE FUCKING SOFTWARE THAT ALLOWS YOU TO BE MOST PRODUCTIVE IN YOUR OWN WAY. STOP ARGUING YOU GODDAMN AUTISTS.

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>>59723415
>>59723450
>>59723539
>>59724963
>>59725147
>>59725465
>>59725460
>>59725479
It's Xfce actually. Not XFCE. This thread is full of morons.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xfce

KDE is good out of the box and you can easily change every details.
Xfce can be good but you must rice it to not have eye cancer

>>59729269
/End of thread

>>59725061
Already on latest with that enabled

>>59725247
Already on it. Not helping but looks good.

>>59725061
X Server settings say "Currently synced to display: Unknown" with no option for VSync

>>59725971
>This is still far less than Windows or OS X
My Windows 7 install uses ~180MB and xfce uses 160MB. Stop deluding yourself.

>>59726549
>>59726517
Pale moon doesn't have this problem ;-)

>>59725896
is xfce really deprecated?

>>59732944
No. It had an update not too long ago.

The reason it's development isn't as active, according to it's developers, is that they see it as being generally pretty much mature software.

>>59733049
lol what a bunch of lazy amateur fucks

you never proclaim that for your own software, you wait other people to say that

>>59733071
Those were my words honestly. They essentially said they don't really know what to change/add.

I don't really know either. It's fucking great.

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>>59725896
>>59733071
>being this upset that xfce just werks

>>59725225
>>59725479
What does running chrome have to do with the DE? That's chrome behaviour and shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence as DE resource usage. It's the kernels job to clean up memory.

>>59733158
???
It works as a measure to compare RAM management. Xfce is lightweight and holds all of Chrome's bloat fine but KDE is heavier and still holds it but has more RAM usage because it is heavier and uses ram cache www.linuxatemyram.com/
>>59733122
this guy gets it

>>59724874
Looks bad lol

KDE is literally the worst de on Linux. Xfce is one of the best.

>muh lightweight xfce
>broken widgets
>outdated
>retarded WM
>no configuration
XFECES

>>59734235
>It works as a measure to compare RAM management.
It doesn't. The hell has a DE to do with RAM management? You act like they influence how chrome and co rape your available ram like whores. Even your own link debunks your claim. Seriously, get some more ram you cheap fuck. It only needs around 200MB more than your barebones DE and gives so much more in return that you wouldn't need your useless ramhogs like compton, conky and all the other bloated bash/python scripts you need to have in memory to get basic functionality.

>>59734622
Can you provide specific examples of each of these please? I'm sure the developers would be interested in any problems you have with their software.

Please be as specific as possible.

>>59725292
>Budgie is retro gnome and hogs

Have you tested it at all? in my shitty computer Budgie has a better performance than xfce.

>>59734842
Not him but they ran about the same on my machine. Xfce was better in the end because of it's more matured features. Budgie still needs a lot of time.

>had to use kubuntu with KDE 5 today
>crashed in minutes

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>>59723316
Because its fucking sexy. Unlike KDE.

>>59734623
mate im not getting more RAM if what I have works. >The hell has a DE to do with RAM management?
maybe its the entire fucking desktop and the environment where the program runs, just maybe you fucktard.
>It only needs around 200MB more than your barebones DE and gives so much more in return that you wouldn't need your useless ramhogs like compton, conky and all the other bloated bash/python scripts you need to have in memory to get basic functionality.

thats exactly my fucking point you dolt why should my DE consume more than half a GB on boot? XFCE works and does the same thing for half the RAM
>>59734842
It had similar ram usage to GNOME 2 which isn''t bad and its very snappy. I just don't like it that much

>>59727700
>LXQt

Seconded. Eagerly waiting for it to get stable enough to be rolled into Lubuntu, get me off of LXDE.

Although I do everything in a terminal window anyway. Firefox is the only thing I need a bitmap display for, everything else could be done on a VT100.

>>59734730
>Lightweight
If you need resources that badly, while wanting GUI, then there's JWM or LXDE.
>Broken widgets
Technically it's not Xfce devs fault.
Still, for example the weather widget, it's no longer been supported.
Clipman, copying characters like emoji would break it.
>outdated
No significant features were added recently.
For example KDE introduced KDE connect.
Thunar as well haven't seen any improvement recently, and crashes when transferring large files.
>WM
This is application dependent.
Mostly seen with mpv, for example scaling the window and such.
>Configuration
Comparing to other DE, while xfce is highly customizable it lacks basic configuration tools, for example adding a printer, or setting up a joypad.
Although it's the only DE I found that emulate the mouse movement with the joystick d-pad OOTB.

>>59735140
You must understand that many of those issues are not problems with the DE itself right?

I would like to know more about this problem with thunar though. How large of transfers are you doing and are you able to replicate it with regularity? I transfer hundreds of gb all the time without a hiccup so this is new to me.

>>59735063
>maybe its the entire fucking desktop and the environment where the program runs, just maybe you fucktard.
But it doesn't manage anything ram related from thrid party programs. You are the one claiming chrome stats are somehow relevant in a DE comparison. You can start thousands of programs as much as you like and the DE will still not magically consume more ram.
>>59735063
>XFCE works and does the same thing for half the RAM
It doesn't at all, you have to replace many components of it to make it barely comparable to kde. windowmanager,filemanager, panel and quicklauncher. Also you have to let some mail programs running in the background to get some sort of notification that you got mail, some shared calender functionality is of course also missing in xfce so you have to run a separate program for that too. All this is somehow standard in kde with just a shy amount of 200MB more than your "fully functional" DE.

>>59735234
Are you one of the devs?
>thunar
I can reproduce it 98% of the time, mainly happens when the number of files is over 100 and involves external storage media.
I thought maybe the device went to sleep, though it was USB flash drive but it wasn't the case.

How does xfce compare to KDE for ricing? Are there even any differences?

>>59729309
X F C E
F
C
E

xfce is gtk based and has many more themes than kde available for it. You will definitely find something that will look amazing and you can do what you want with the panel, but that part is the same for kde. Seriously, kde only has arc and breeze recolours, pretty lame if you ask me. If you want to make your own custom styles then you need to know css for xfce/gtk and you need to know svg for kde widgets, panel and windeco.

>>59735281
>>59735436
that was for you

>>59723463
>I get it. I am considering going back to xfce but i was always irritated by the shitty file manager and tray icons that look shitty and inconsistent..

Just use MATE. It's like XFCE but better

>>59735281
Why are people comparing the two? One is a bloated mess and the other is generally sleek and reaching feature maturity. As for UI customization (fuck the word ricing) I'd say xfce is better.

>>59735276
Not one of the devs just concerned and try my best to take an active role in the software I use and enjoy. Have you brought the issue up with the devs?

>>59735457
Not really. Xfce is better imo.

>>59735281
KDE has many more custom high quality widgets available than xfce. Just take a look at store.kde.org and look for the plasma 5 extensions category.

>>59735140
Thunar 1.6.11 is the latest, try it.
https://blog.xfce.org/

Personally I moved to pcmanfm, it offers a few more features

>>59735479
>shitty file manager
>screen tearing
>still stuck at GTK2

How's that better?

>>59735461
>bloated
What hardware you use?
Most hardware even old one are enough to run KDE with no issues.

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>>59735457
Mate is just a poor imitation of Xfce

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ROX is the superior desktop

>>59735461
>Have you brought the issue up with the devs?
No, also I just discovered something.
If you change the open windows location in the menu panel, it would cause some icons to "disappear"

>>59723316
But you can have kwin on xfce ...

>>59735038
What icons?

>>59735633
https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3521

Ten years and they still couldn't implement that shit

>>59735542
You don't keep up too much do you?

>shitty file manager
If you have an issue with a particular piece of software that is bundled with Xfce you can replace it or take the issue up with the people who maintain that software. Xfce values it's user's choice. That's one of the reasons I like the DE.

>screen tearing
This has been fixed as far as I know. I don't have issues with tearing at all.

>GTK2
Development is slow, but it will be completely ported to GTK3 by 4.14

So what now?

>>59735750
>take the issue up with the people who maintain that software

see >>59735707

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>>59723316
KDE
>best wacom support
>wacom on multiple monitor
>krunner, clipboard, sticky notes
>qtcurve
>can be max riced
>bugs/breaks easily after new update
>gets fixed immediately

Xfce
>how to change black panel since day 1
>tar.gz manual customisation unlike kde 'get new ...' or via git
>changing fonts is a chore, ricing is painful
>low ram than plasma but not as low as IceWM

>>59735829
Maybe I should try KAOS then?

>>59735829
What's that you use for weather? conky?

>>59735829
>how to change black panel since day 1
What do you mean?

>changing fonts is a chore, ricing is painful
It's not? Also if you're screenshot is your definition of "ricing" then I really don't think you're much of an authority on the matter.

>>59723316
XFCE
pros: Everything
cons: screen tear (don't even bother with that Compton bullshit. doesn't work for me)

KDE
pros: aesthetic, tightly integrated
cons: fuck huge, tightly integrated

>>59735829
Did you try the breeze deco? It allows custom rules too and I find it to look nicer than oxygen without titlebar.

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>>59735860
kaos got me into plasma but kaos lack 32-bit support and I couldn't install wine so I switched to arch.

>>59735877
plasma5-applets-weather-widget

>>59735893
main panel is always black

>It's not? Also if you're screenshot is your definition of "ricing" then I really don't think you're much of an authority on the matter.
I could easily make new color schemes and qtcurve<3

>>59736080
Too bad there is no gtk3 support. You are basically forced to arc and breeze if you want everything to look consistent.

>children have easter holiday
>/g/ suddenly turns into "muh xfce ricing" shitfest

Summer is early this year!

>>59736187
Ricing is better than smartphone/ryzen vs intel/build my gayming pc threads.

>>59736187
>>59736228
Not even a ricefag and I agree with this, Anything that's not consumerist cancer is welcome on this shit board.

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Xfce is comfy

That's all that matters to me senpaitachi

>>59736080
>lack 32-bit support
Why would you want 32 bit?
>I couldn't install wine
What was the problem?

>>59736365
You really like grey don't you?

>>59736420
I needed a neutral color that wasn't white or black and that pretty much left me with grey...

Also I was originally trying for a retro type vibe but have largely moved on from that.

KDE is the best DE.
They throw so much shit at the wall, some of it sticks.
If you want some feature, it is probably in KDE.
They generally have the best applications.
Take dolphin as an example.
It is a file manager like most other file managers. It starts in configure mode, so users are drawn to making it look like they want. The terminal is not just launched, it is a part of the file manager, anyone who have ever used either will know that is a good idea.
When you want to add a script to context menus, you can make it as integrated as you want to, with easy config files to control when the option should appear and how it should look.

>>59736496
Sounds like quite a bit of unnecessary stuff if I'm too be honest with you.

Also every kde screenshot I've ever seen had been ugly to me. Every single one.

>>59736401
I think they fixed the wine problem already. Some programming stuff I did before needed 32-bit libraries.

>>59736080
>WINE

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>>59735271
>It doesn't at all, you have to replace many components of it to make it barely comparable to kde. windowmanager,filemanager, panel and quicklauncher. Also you have to let some mail programs running in the background to get some sort of notification that you got mail, some shared calender functionality is of course also missing in xfce so you have to run a separate program for that too. All this is somehow standard in kde with just a shy amount of 200MB more than your "fully functional" DE.

that is the biggest sack of shit I have ever witnessed. Have you used modern Xfce? You LITERALLY only need to disable xfwm comp and install compton. Anything after that is your fault
>But it doesn't manage anything ram related from thrid party programs. You are the one claiming chrome stats are somehow relevant in a DE comparison. You can start thousands of programs as much as you like and the DE will still not magically consume more ram.
>RAM managing has exceptions for third parties
jesus christ you're fucking dumb holy shit, different DEs handle third party apps differently you fucking cunt. I did those chrome starts fo you to see that it may be caching some things on the RAM.

KDE shills should just fuck off with their rip-off ToysRus DE where the fucking clock can't be adjusted to not have huge padding or huge fonts. Call me when Plasma is as flexible as Xfce
>>59735281
Xfce for sure it has support for almost all themes. I'd suggest Paper Icons and Adapta
>>59735521
you are really bad at shilling, at least make yourself convincing

>>59735436
thisthisthis

>>59736861
Any good icons where you can pick the color of folders?

>>59735457
>lacks proper applets
>better
>uses more ram
>better
>>59735750
>Xfce values it's user's choice. That's one of the reasons I like the DE.
this so much, you can replace literally anything
>>59736945
I think Yltra Flat does that
>>59736365
this is nice if you remove the moe
>>59735660
and pull in half the K desktop with it. KDE is like GNOME but even worse.

>>59736984
Moe makes the desktop anon.

>>59736984
>>uses more ram

And less CPU

>>59729309
I figured someone would catch that. Thanks for the correction, and thanks for not being a dick about it.

>>59736861
>that is the biggest sack of shit I have ever witnessed. Have you used modern Xfce? You LITERALLY only need to disable xfwm comp and install compton. Anything after that is your fault
But you only end up with no features instead. How can you compare DE resource usage if you don't even have feature parity? Apples and Oranges, friend.

>>59736861
>jesus christ you're fucking dumb holy shit, different DEs handle third party apps differently you fucking cunt. I did those chrome starts fo you to see that it may be caching some things on the RAM.
My friend, you should take a look at how caching actually works and who's responsible for it.
Protip: It's not the DE and it also gets overwritten as soon as it's needed without any sort of delay or lag. The only thing kde can cache is its own programs.

>>59735521
>>59735436
All me by the way :^)

>>59736861
>Call me when Plasma is as flexible as Xfce
Oh? Please show me three different panels build with xfce libraries that provide different feature set than the standard one. Doesn't exist? Then how about 4 different docks build with xfce libraries that of course respect your panel settings and integration? Perhaps you can show me 4 different volume mixers and media controllers build on xfce libraries.
Talking about flexible my ass. You even need third party shit that needs to be loaded into ram just to get something different form the norm.
The only thing xfce has going for it the whisker menu everything else is better placed in a proper tiling wm.

>>59737009
>caring about either

what the fuck is this 1995

the only metric that matters is how well it runs

>>59737086
they all run like shit commpared to kde fyi

xfce
>lightweight
>customizable
>settings menus are missing a lot of features that I'd want

kde
>customizable
>looks like a better version of windows 10 GUI
>settings menus have everything I want
>somewhat buggy (font rendering breaks sometimes, the screen doesn't refresh occasionally when windows crash)
>easy to restart when it breaks

>>59735140
LXDE is shit though

XFCE panel crashes when rendering emojis.

>>59737163
>xfce
>>lightweight

XFCE is a middleweight DE

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kde looks pretty good desu

>>59737218
That's a feature though. Normie removal.

>>59737284
Kek

Also, no, that's disgusting.

>>59737218
Why the fuck do you want emojis in your panel?

>>59725896
>i remember the month and year I first used a specific text editor

>>59737317
Happens when opening a file that contains emoji character, or opening a link that do.

>>59737352
Give me an example so I can try to replicate it.

>>59737371
This link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlftd4h7N-U
>inb4 ASMR

>>59723316
Lxde plus I3 because I like my DE to treat me like I know what I'm doing

>>59723316
KWin is the better WM than XFWM. The effects are cooler and gives it more of the earlier windows feeling than the crapfest known as GNOME.

>>59737401
Hmmm. Doesn't crash or anything to mine. What font are you using to display unicode characters?

>>59736365
Can I please get icon pack used, font used and which XFCE window boarders + which theme do you use? Thanks a lot senpai

>>59737463
https://github.com/eosrei/EmojiOne-Color-Font

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>>59737427
>The effects are cooler and gives it more of the earlier windows feeling

This is the average KDE user right here folks.

>>59737481
Windows 7 had the greatest out of the box experience of any operating system, KDE is the closest GNU/Linux ever got to that experience.

>>59735687
Seconded.

>>59737478
Okay yeah, that's disgusting as fuck, but all judgement aside I don't really know what to tell you. I believe I may just be using font awesome for unicode, I can't remember. I've certainly never had a panel crash...

>>59737472
Paper icons (Really don't like them. Looking for a replacement)
Custom Numix theme using a program called Oomox
Xfwm theme is completely custom
Font is lucida grande and terminus

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>>59737495
>Windows 7 had the greatest out of the box experience of any operating system

OpenSuse blows it out of the water

>>59737538
>disgusting
It's the ony font i found that renders most of the emoji.

>>59737495
>have to install countless drivers
>change tons of retarded defaults
>have to install a browser, editor, archiver, etc. that isn't completely awful

>>59737557
Funny enough you picked OpenSuse, it has the best KDE integration of any other distro.

>>59735829
>>low ram than plasma but not as low as IceWM
How fucking low is xfce? Because KDE only uses ~400MB on my system.

>>59737495
>Windows 7 had the greatest out of the box experience of any operating system
>known file type extensions are hidden by default
>hidden files/folders can only be globally enabled or disabled
>spending hours online searching for drivers and software
>LAN drivers never seem to work out of the box
Linux is better out of the box, if you use a decent distro

>>59737577
Word

Never really cared about rendering them so I don't know.

Kde and xfce are wonderful desktop environments that each have their own pros and cons.

Kde is a feature packed fancy desktop that has a gui tool for almost every occasion, looks beautiful, and includes a very capable composting window manager

Xfce on the other hand is a light weight, functional, minimal reliable great little desktop environment with its own very modular application set that doesn't disappoint

>>59737626
200mb here

>>59737651
>Never really cared about rendering them so I don't know.
If your boss communicate with emoji you would care.

>>59737675
I am my boss

>>59737675
>your boss communicate with emoji
Who the fuck uses emoji and gets into a management position?

>>59724874
>almost edgy dark
Supreme choice my friend.

>>59723450
>xfce
>low performance
Wot

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LXQt!
Make them all dead
NOW! Please?!

>>59738143
>RAM

Who gives a shit, CPU usage matters more

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>>59738143
>RAM
in 2017
>>59738164
>CPU
in 2017

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>>59738179
>Simpsons
in 2017

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>>59738196
>thinking simpsons ever be non relevant
Why dont you go be nigger jew faggot someplace else?

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>>59737707
>doesn't communicate with emoji
fired

>>59735687
>>59737501
Hedera.

>>59735038
Dude, Hedera was MADE for kde and its applications and looks exactly like that on it.

>>59738196
>bashing simpson viewers
fuck you, stefan

>>59723348
Im the exact opposite. I like the quality of life stuff and therefore use kde.. It's more demanding than xfce but still faster than expected.

>>59725971
>Additionally, unless your machine really truly does not have enough RAM, using more is frequently better.
The point is that there's no reason for a gui to use hundreds of mb, it's a sign of lazy and incompetent devs.

>>59736861
>that is the biggest sack of shit I have ever witnessed. Have you used modern Xfce? You LITERALLY only need to disable xfwm comp and install compton. Anything after that is your fault

Even the latest xfce will have UI tearing with compton.
It's a problem that they still haven't fixed.

>>59739045
???
works on all three of my laptops. stop lying kde shill
>>59737083
What features do I need according to you?
>>59737083
>Protip: It's not the DE and it also gets overwritten as soon as it's needed without any sort of delay or lag. The only thing kde can cache is its own programs.
k
>>59737083
>Oh? Please show me three different panels build with xfce libraries that provide different feature set than the standard one. Doesn't exist? Then how about 4 different docks build with xfce libraries that of course respect your panel settings and integration? Perhaps you can show me 4 different volume mixers and media controllers build on xfce libraries.
>Talking about flexible my ass. You even need third party shit that needs to be loaded into ram just to get something different form the norm.
>The only thing xfce has going for it the whisker menu everything else is better placed in a proper tiling wm.
what the fuck? can you show me any of that built on KDE libraries that don't pull in half the fucking desktop? Thought so.
>You even need third party shit that needs to be loaded into ram just to get something different form the norm.
wrong, you can disable everything you like, lost funcionality is up to you.

I just like qt and qt software. I think most of the kde software is more powerful than it's gtk analogues. I also think KDE is more of power user based. Anyway, If stability is everything that I need for a certain job, I'd pick xfce.

>>59724874
okurwa polak robak. jeczcze na gentoo.
>>59723316

i like KDE cuz its configurable (widgets everywhere etc) and I just love clipper

btw why u dont like gnome?

>>59737056
To be fair it used to be proper to call it XFCE but after major rewrites it no longer stands for the same thing.

>The name "Xfce" originally stood for "XForms Common Environment", but since that time Xfce has been rewritten twice and no longer uses the XForms toolkit. The name survived, but it is no longer capitalized as "XFCE", but rather as "Xfce". The developers' current stance is that the initialism no longer stands for anything specific.

>>59724874
>gentoo
>wojtek
>wszystko czarne
>wykopek
wypierdalaj

>ITT : Werks on my machine xDDD lolololo X--D

Wow I got through this thread without distrohopping.

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love my xfce, the only issue i had with kde was with dolphin and playing video files over my network from my nas. I could browse the files but no matter what I tried, it would always try to copy the file locally before playing. And when I gave the player (mpv or vlc) the direct path, it still failed to play.

Works flawlessly on xfce

>>59737401
works fine for me on xfce m8

>>59726517
Mac Mini?

>>59736945
numix with numix-folder, a program to switch folder colours