ITT: things Linux can't do

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Parse source files containing spaces in their filename when using GNU Make.

>>59716299
Play AAA vidya @ 1440p144FPS

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Linuxcucks btfo

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>>59716569

>all these eye cancer unusable interfaces

>>59716299
What does this have to do with the kernel?

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>>59716299
>tfw Linux will never be able to do this
:^)

>>59716610
Welcome to VSTs

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:(

>>59716586
you know linux has VST/LADSPA plugins available for it, too, right?

>>59716785
have fun registering plugins.

>>59717102
what do you mean?

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>>59716299

>>59717163
Overpriced crap.

>>59717192
No one will take you seriously if you use anything else in a professional environment.

It's not like anyone in his right mind would want to use any of the '''''''alternatives''''''' if he had the choice.

>>59716322
A classic GNU one.
>>59716348
>cable simulator spotted
Is that Reason?

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>>59717420
It's an emulation of an ARP 2600 by Arturia

>all this awful VST plugins
why
stop buying into memes and buzzwords

>>59716328

Does Mad Max count? Because that game runs amazingly well under Vulkan.

>>59716299
Visual studio.

>>59716299
It's one of the main reasons I'll be bound to Windows for the foreseeable future. Not for the games, but all the professional audio, video and graphical software that's just not there on Linux. Linux is nice if you like to play with your OS, but beyond that you'll have to do with buggy hobby software.

>>59717163

> Single-Threaded app

DROPPED

>>59716299
Not handle more than 2 CPUs

>>59716629
Hi femanon :3
It's me again ^^

>>59716305
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>>59716391

It actually has a lot of those software synths

Plus it can run bitwig and audacity, which are as good as it gets

>>59717458
>buying

kek

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>>59716299
good joke senpai

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>>59718722
>bitwig and audacity
>as good as it gets

>>59719173
What software is that?

Is it just a spectrogram visualizer, or it also has the editing capabilities of iZotope RX (or even Spectralayers)?

>>59719199
baudline.

[spoiler]it's just an analyzer.[/spoiler]

>>59719236
>it's just an analyzer

So what's the point of posting it in response to someone talking about RX?

It's like someone saying there's no good video editing program on a certain operating system, and someone giving him a video player.

>>59719263
because i didn't read the thread nor looked at OP's picture for more than 2 seconds

bye

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>>59716299
Hi OP, no problem if i post some pasta to add some extra background to the thread for those interested?

Kicad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCG4daPvuVI
Natron
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2MvbfuITT8
Blender
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDRTjzLNK0g
Krita
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raKHHFv4nN8
Krita
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEoJgQAfb5Y
Lightworks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7znIHsyqfm0
Kdenlive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8hO4K7mZG4
Unity3D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4BUcIDdpAM
Opentoonz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGFUtqM8oAs
Godot engine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqumdhqy8Uw
BricsCAD VS Autocad
http://cad.softwareinsider.com/compare/5-10/AutoCAD-vs-BricsCAD
Bricscad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eLM3NrOJms
Freecad Demo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XW0AqKG5zI
Freecad BIM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qmjz6WXyWBY
Freecad & 3D printing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqZeThC38ug
Gimp 2.10 features
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5RIveQypgw
How to install photoshop on wine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-Mo3GTcOQ4
Digikam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnk_VzedqlU
Pixar Film Production
https://youtu.be/JmH4KYcmHOo
Linux art 1
http://www.sylvia-ritter.com/new-gallery/
Linux art 2
http://www.peppercarrot.com/

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>>59716328
It can tho, relevant pasta. Pic not related.

Not him but the no games argument is not true anymore. Windows is the best os for gaming mostly due to most game developers are trained into developing for it with microsoft's closed APIs, so the simple process of porting a game that was developed for windows to any other platform will affect negatively the performance of the game. This with the fact that the marketshare is small compared to windows there's hardly an incentive at the moment to optimize for linux, making look as if the platform were worse for games than windows when in fact to flip the situation you'll need to change the idiosyncrasies on the industry itself.

The fact though is that the situation on linux is not nearly the same than two years ago and now those who prefer linux over windows now can play games on it, helping to break the vicious circle, but still there's a lot of things to do for linux to compete in the gaming side. I anyone wants for this to change i recommend to play the games you can on linux when possible and ask for linux ports.

I notice some people doesn't want's for this to happen but if that the case let me ask (not directed specifically to the person i'm replying): how are any of you benefited in a meaningful way with the current situation? because i consider that keeping the statu quo just to have a tool to win an argument on what OS is better is not a meaningful thing. how having less options and practically being locked to MS products benefits you?

Some links:
https://steamdb.info/linux/
http://store.steampowered.com/search/?category1=998&os=linux
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXr8bqzf45Y
https://www.youtube.com/user/tuxreviews/videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/airspeedmph
https://www.youtube.com/user/Jakejw93/videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/mrdeathjr28/videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWZvwhwT1Sk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9gsu_YWUzE

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>>59716299
;)

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>>59717622
But anon, QT already destroys VS and allows you to create true cross-platform programs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKuuDtEMjpk

>>59719344
they will implement it when linux adds support to thumbnails in the filepicker :^)

>>59717246
Well, no one would use linux in a professional environment if you need productivity and teamwork with people working with a different OS.

I depends on your field. In sciences, yeah you can/will have to use linux. But only if there is a specific software used by your peers. As soon as you begin writing reports/publication/presentation. It's over.
There is no point in trying to change the industry standards, not going to happen. Even the most basic things can go wrong with it. Like sharing reports/ppt and using libreoffice when 99.9% of your department uses Word and Powerpoint. Or making illustration in Inkscape/Gimp when your group works with Adobe. Best way to get behind and get fucked.

On the other hand, it's totally fine to use linux at home for personal projects and such. And IMO that's what linux does best.

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>>59718042
For anything more complex than what calc, google docs, WPS or onlyoffice offers i would rather use either proper database software or something like R but if you must:
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/01/wine-2-0-released-supports-microsoft-office-2013
https://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/crossover/microsoft-office-2013

>>59717163
Go back to your PRINTER ISLAND pleb.

>>59717813
VFIO, faggot.

>>59718722
>not mentioning LMMS and Ardour

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>>59719424
:^)

Also if someone's interested:
https://launchpad.net/~plasmazilla/+archive/ubuntu/releases
It doesn't work on neon at the moment due to the version of Qt tho :( but it should work when neon is updated to qt 5.9 :).

>>59719396
>Mono
>.NET core
>Xamarin
>Unity
Microsoft has been unironically kicking ass in .net cross platforming.

>>59716299
-Edit video
-Edit photos
-3D Animation
-Music production

inb4 MUH BLONDER MUH GIMP MUH LINUCKS MUSIC STUDIO MUH WHATEVER SHITTY VIDEO EDITOR THERE IS

no

>>59716299
>"muh digital audio"
>Not using Superior ANALOG TECHNOLOGY

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>>59716586
>all this audio shit
you have multiple full featured DAWs or trackers, including some commercial ones like Bitwig and some very good free ones like LMMS and Ardour, all with spectrum analyzers and whatever else you might need

you have tons and tons of FX plugins in LV2 format and VST support via wine

you have a pretty fucking solid amp sim called Guitarix that can simulate your entire signal chain

and the entire thing works extremely well together because of JACK2. no other platform makes completely different software tools work together quite as well as JACK does.

they're not as pretty looking because they don't cater to mouth drooling children though, which sadly means most musicians.

you'd know this if you actually spent a minute doing research instead of emptying your figurative bowels all over my beloved GNU image board.

>>59719425
>what is a server

>>59719655
Ok, call me when you can make a program with the default Microsoft tools like WPS on visual studio and you can port it to linux and mac as easy and well integrated as Qt. And no, if you gonna point me to a plugin for using a cross platform language like qt to use it on VS i would rather use an IDE that i can use on any platform (VS is heavy as fuck, i wouldn't use it even if it was available on other platforms without a good reason, jetbrains tools are much better).

>>59717463
how the fuck did that even happen in the first place? everything about the game screams "unfinished, abandoned halfway through, unsupported". the dev and publisher don't give a fuck about it.

and yet it gets post-release Linux support, and later on a pretty fucking good Vulkan port. Just Cause 3 doesn't get this and it's made by the same people, literally.

did Feral Interactive take over the project or something?

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>>59719684
see >>59719301
Also: https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/davinciresolve

>>59719734
I don't know but it's a pretty good thing it happened and there'll be more vulkan ports. The more people supporting vulkan the better for all of us because we'll be able to choose our platform in the future.

>>59719775
I'm not complaining. I even played through the entire game on my Linux HTPC. I'm just puzzled.

My guess is that it was a pilot project and we might see more Avalanche games on Linux in the future.

>>59719796
see >>59719319

>>59719847
Let's hope to see more things like this in the future.

VirtualBox.

>>59719319
>Windows is the best os for gaming mostly due to most game developers are trained into developing for it with microsoft's closed APIs
Or you know, the fact that OpenGL had a weird way of doing object management post-3, or the tons of packaging formats, or that it might get deprecated, not knowing where to publish it before steam existed, etc.

>>59719927
kvm>xen>>>vmware>>>hyper-v>>>>>>>>shit>>>>>>>the twice-digested shit of a shit eating animal>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>virtualbox

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>>59716299
Thumbnails in file picker.

>>59719734
The difference is Mad Max is playable and Just Cause 3 is fucking glitchy trash. They can't make it run right on Playstation. Why would they try to port it?

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>>59720051
???

>>59719727
Mono works just fine for this. As long as the code is written with cross platform in mind everything just werks.
VS is pretty heavy with everything bolted on, but you can exclude pretty much everything except what you want. It's about 170MB with no project loaded, and 250MB with a fairly complex project open, and I'm using Enterprise with everything including the kitchen sink nuget package.

You don't like it. Whatever. I get it. Personally I think qt is a goddamn mess and 90% of things developed in C/C++ should have been developed in a safer language, but those are just my opinions too. The real argument is "can .net do it", and the answer is objectively yes.

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>>59720051
These look like thumbnails to me. What are you talking about?

>file picker

>>59719951
I know what you say but consider the most recent versions of openly are heavily oriented into reducing overhead and improving performance, also it has been shown by valve that opengl can get very good performance of optimized for it so while it's true that the big problem of opengl is being a huge state machine it's not by far the reason of underperforming posts.

>>59720318
Also yeah, windows has been a target for gaming long before windows but that has already explained.

>>59720188
>The real argument is "can .net do it", and the answer is objectively yes.
I know but as I mentioned previously it's a mess. I can say the same, ok you don't like at and for some reason you don't like me considering something that is not csharp better in multi platform and overall better but the real argument actually is: there's as good or better tools than VS available on Linux.

>>59719701
>via wine
I got news for you, there is native support

>>59719501
So, you're suggesting VMming windows, so you can run it on top of linux for no reason whatsoever, except for the extra unnecessary hassle.

Smart thinking.

>>59719516
Maybe he wants to be taken at least somewhat serious.

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>Things Linux can't do

>>59719684
>Instagram whore with failed communications & media study detected

>>59719852
>>59719319
.....wrong......

>>59719927
I don't get it. VirtualBox has full support of Linux as a host and as a guest.
What are you talking about?

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>>59719344
Clover

>>59720495
It can and does, just not as pretty.

btw, you're a bit late to the party:
>>59716660

>>59720474
Running Windows in VM, not installing anything other than what doesn't work in Linux (and thus not polluting the registry) and perhaps even not giving it access to the Internet is different than running Windows on bare metal. Not to mention, the Linux system is still underneath and can be switched to whenever you feel like it.
It's like if you said if I sometimes play games in DOSBOX, I might as well just install FreeDOS on my desktop "and not bother with emulation".

>>59720406
Your argument was it isn't possible, and you tried to move the goal posts into subjective territory. I was trying to point this out in a nice way.

>>59719701
The fact that you you think all RX does is spectral analysis proves you don't actually work with audio professionally. Sorry sweetie, but I have to actually use real tools in my day to day. Your buggy ass freebies don't cut it.

>>59716660
never seen the blue screen in my life

>>59720636
The point is, Linux usually outright screams at you what the problem is so that you can google it.
"Something happened" is just confusing and useless. You're supposed to just trust in Windows' self-repair, which doesn't always work.
Though instead Linux doesn't have many self-repair mechanisms of its own, and those that it has you usually have to explicitly call.

>>59720701
Sister has a laptop
Battery life okay
Shutdown, goes into update
>Africa no power around
Laptop doesn't work anymore

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>>59720759
>windows is updating
>please do not power off or unplug machine
>43%
>hold power button until computer shuts down

>>59720725
>doesn't always work.
i haven't once seen windows self-repair work

>>59720685
Calm down, are you referring to the pic in >>59719396 ? I never said it's not possible but that it's much worse. Again, call me when you can make a program with the default Microsoft tools like wpf and you can just make it work as easy and well integrated as with qt. If the most used tool for creating windows applications were mono and programs with mono worked as well as qt programs across all the platforms you would be right but just look at the few popular non monogame programs like keepass, I looks completely alien outside of windows even if it mostly works fine. In short I don't see a reason why you must be angry but for cross platform development and the tools by itself in General are much better and convenient in qt.

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>>59720838
>Sister in africa
>Doctor in delivering and aiding children
>OS for the people

Yeah, this argument you could use against me and I would suck your dick for it and thank you for de-fibrillating me out of my stupidness.

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>mfw this is now /mu/'s tech support
This is a new low for neo/g/

>>59720686
>b-but my obscure tool for my specific requirements
>h-how could anyone live without it
use whatever you need to. you don't need to justify anything to us.

but don't talk out of your ass. it only makes you look like a stupid cunt.

>>59716660
Trips of truth

>>59721000
>Calm down
You serious m8? I literally never said qt was bad or even worse than WPF in all cases, just that it's a valid competitor and what I personally prefer. You're the one who's asserting C#/.net can't do things it very clearly can do.

>More "you can't do it"
>But it's not as easy even though I've never tried!
Your ignorance is legendary. Porting winforms or GTK# to other platforms is as easy as selecting mono as the framework when you start a project.

>Muh look and feel
Qt apps look weird on Windows too. It's easy to spot the Qt framework in anything. Every framework has this trait, and most devs magnify things by ignoring cross platform UI expectations.


>better and convenient
>I like a thing, that makes a thing better than your thing
This is how religions start. If you've put serious work into both frameworks you'd see they both have advantages and pitfalls, and that they're both capable frameworks.

>>59719424
I've got 3 or so different file managers installed
sometimes I get thumbnails, sometimes I don't
I don't care enough to fix it

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Linux can not bake chocolate chip cookies.

>>59722440
ahem
https://lwn.net/Articles/674877/

>>59719301
Not to crash your party but AutoCAD alternatives on Linux are dog shit.

Also there isn't a single semi decent structural engineering software on Linux.

Gave up on Linux because I can't work on it and didn't want to install a OS just to shit post.

>things Linux can't do
Bloated programs. Like your mom.

>>59720166
chroist you went overboard with that tron legacy sheeit

>>59722537
video link on that page is dead, so here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3DADx5z-XY

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>>59722666
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Fuck GTK3 with a passion though

>>59722409
Doesn't the file picker depend on the toolkit the program used? So if they used gtk instead of qt or whatever you're fucked regardless.

>>59722712
>>59722537
I take my claim back.

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>>59722725

>not using emacs

>>59721916
>You serious m8?
I said because you're accusing me of moving goalposts.

>I literally never said qt was bad or even worse than WPF in all cases, just that it's a valid competitor and what I personally prefer.
That's exactly what i said about qt but you're trying to make it look like i said something different.

>You're the one who's asserting C#/.net can't do things it very clearly can do.
Read my posts again, i said it's worse not that it can't, a very personal opinion.

>Your ignorance is legendary.
Again, calm down if you want to argue. At least i'm pretty sure other people will read my posts as i intended because you're just trying to put words in my mouth.

>Porting winforms or GTK# to other platforms is as easy as selecting mono as the framework when you start a project.
Not saying it's imposible, again i'm saying that is not nearly as convenient. You want me to respect your opinion yet you call me names like ignorant and trying to discredit my opinion with personal attacks.

>Qt apps look weird on Windows too. It's easy to spot the Qt framework in anything.
Again, personal opinion, qt applications can look native on windows and linux, i'm not sure about mac tho.

>Every framework has this trait, and most devs magnify things by ignoring cross platform UI expectations.
Provide examples to understand your point of view clearly.

>This is how religions start.
Again, you want me to respect your opinion but you attack me, THIS is how religions start. Unlike you i'm not trying to discredit you to discredit your opinions, i'm just not agreeing, if that makes you this upset then the one with a religion problem is you.

>If you've put serious work into both frameworks you'd see they both have advantages and pitfalls, and that they're both capable frameworks.
How you know i don't? the fact that i disagree with you makes me an ignorant apparently and that's your only argument.

>>59722774
Yes, there's programs like chrome that detects the environment and implements support for the proper file picker but mostly it depends on the toolkit.

>>59716305
>>59716314
>we got them shiny knobs n shieeeet

>>59724487
Don't worry, the starts are already being aligned.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pUWnVA5_CY

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>>59719796
I don't understand this meme. There are tons of excellent games on Linux. I literally use windows for 2 pirated games I play with my friends and nothing else. The rest I play on linux. Also pic related.

>>59718722

linux is a no-fucking-go for pro audio. no ifs ands or buts about it.

RX and Pro Tools keep me chained to Windows since God knows the Mac versions on top of Excel notes leaves me wanting. I don't know how people actually do this shit on a Mac - there was shit I just could not do. Linux will never even come close to the slightly poor Mac version even, so that's basically piss.