>Terminal emulator built on electron Why https://hyper.is/

It's the future man

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this needs to stop

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>javascript text editor
>javascript terminal

What's the next step in their master plan?

Only exists on Mac right now, because only Mactoddlers could think this is a good idea

>Shell for google
Why

http://goo.sh

>>59710335
https://facebook.github.io/react-native/

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>>59710402
Man, it'd be great if somebody built a functional-reactive native application SDK to compete with Qt or GTK that wasn't made in FUCKING JAVASCRIPT

>>59710356
They've got downloads for Windows and Linux

>>59710450
I think Qt is pretty good honestly

I can kind of understand atom, but how the fuck does a terminal emulator benefit from this?

>>59710460
Oh, I opened the website on my phone, and only the 32-bit column displayed. They can't even use JS, CSS, and HTML to make a proper mobile site

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>>59710593
Just checked this. Holy fuck that's good.

https://github.com/zeit/hyper

wew lad this is disgusting

>>59710122
WE NEED MORE BLOAT!

>>59710593
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

that explains why they use that for their program then.. they're incapable of learning anything else

>>59710335
>javascript OS

>>59710122
>Welcome to Hyper.app!
Ok
>A terminal emulator 100% based on JavaScript, HTML and CSS
Jesus_Christ_How_Horrifying.jpg

>>59710639
>8 core cpu 16 thread
>$330
>time to re-write every program using javascript

>>59710683
Pretty much. Can't leave anything go to waste.

>>59710680
>Welcome to Hyper.app!
>.app
Jesus_Christ_How_Horrifying.png

dammit what's wrong with just the regular terminal

>>59710769
not modern enough

>>59710505
g will never like qt because of how bloated it is, also gtk is better

>>59710769
Doesn't consume enough needless resources

>>59710769
>can't use CSS to style xterm
>can't write Javascript plugins for urxvt
enjoy your shitty, non-extensible terminals

I will say it would be nice if there was a cross platform terminal. Iterm2 is by far the best, but it's OS X only. I'd fucking pay for it if it were cross platform.

Anyway, though, why fucking JavaScript? Have these people ever programmed in any other language?

Mmmh it might have some potential for uploading to some websites and pentest the shit out of them?

>>59710335
JavaScript interpreter embedded into the kernel.

Lost it at the plugin animations. Looking forward to the rpm release.

But yes, scary precedent set by text editors. Urxvt chugs at times when I'm dealing with my server so I shudder to think how this performs.

>>59710935
>gtk is better
said by not a single informed person ever

>>59711186
It is less bloated tho

>>59711122
JS is THE meme hipster language of this decade

>>59710935

>gtk is better

t.gtkcuck

>>59710769
you can open files larger than 2mb with it
they had to fix that

>>59710672
Nothing's stopping you from that.
You can already do device drivers in JS.
I bet with a little assembly to bootstrap everything, a kernel in JS wouldn't be too far off.

>>59710122
wtf I love js now

>>59711122
Because it's easy to do crossplat. You guys talk shit, but if you're looking to make a program quickly, and make it look good, and be crossplat, electron is your best bet. Try doing a unified program design in anything else. It's either a pain in the ass, or looks like shit. You want a better framework? Build it, faggots.

>>59711833
>electron is your best bet
Qt has had plenty of commercial success, Electron is just a meme at this point

>>59711912
Qt is bloated, and hideous.

>>59711833
JavaFX

>>59711943
How many programs have you made or worked on in Qt, GTK, or Electron?

>>59711943
A Qt app using every module available is still much, much more lightweight than any shitheap that bundles Chromium. Most Qt apps only need a few components and weigh less than 15MB with memory usage just a little higher than native.

Neat.

But I started htop in it a few hours ago and now it has locked up.

Into the literal trash it goes.

>>59710122
disgusting

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>>59710122
what's wrong with iTerm2? i mean, is there a valid reason to move from iTerm to Hyper?

It's an electron abomination.

However it does manage to be cross platform and properly renders font ligatures. Not sure why so few terminal emulators can manage either of those things.

>>59713400
It won't let your computer's resources go to waste

i always wanted a rich text tyle terminal, not like this though... not like this.

>meanwhile nobody is developing a virtual terminal with KMS, libinput and many other goodies that are only in X terminals without using X.org
>meanwhile nobody wants to at least improve the shitty VT subsystem in Linux

>>59713961
fuck logic

>>59713961
w3m or whatever ranger uses is pretty neat.

>>59714011
Could be more neat if the terminal at least had proper hardware acceleration
>tfw systemd-console is dead
>tfw kmscon was absorbed by systemd and is dead
>tfw fbterm is dead and has a horrible privilege scalation bug
Well, probaby I should write it.

>>59714049
>Well, probaby I should write it.
That's the spirit anon, can't be waiting for others to do something forever

>>59714049
yeah i really would like a richtext terminal.
kinda like something that runs webkit, you could have all kinds of fancy screens for it.

not sure anyone really wnats that though, the purests wouldn't want it, and hipsters would just make regular webkit apps.

i mean imagine something like gdb running in a terminal being able to look as flashy as visual studio. no limits on fixed font sizes, and 256 color, and half broken italic/bold

>>59714068
Probably that will be nice, but I'm talking more about some quirks in the Linux console (the shit what we see outside X) that bothers me most.
I still can't believe how crappy is the VT subsystem, even with all the pampering that Linux recibes.

>>59710335
JavaScript JavaScript interpreter

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https://github.com/zeit/hyper/releases/download/1.2.0/hyper-1.3.1-x86_64-linux.AppImage

>>59710335
You're forgetting
>javascript DE
It's already a thing. GNOME shell is javascript

>>59711500
>A little assembly
You mean like an entire JS interpreter in assembly?

>>59710635
https://github.com/zeit/hyper/issues/474
Kek

>>59710122
>60 replies
>nobody has built it
Hold my bag I'll be right back.

>>59711336
>it's less bloated

So Linux 0.01 is the best version because it is less "bloated"?

>>59714101
Probably because no one uses it.
People either run X or just ssh in.

I mean, it does get used some times, but not enough to care about it

>>59714228
Yes

>>59710122
>Why
Because we can

>>59714229
term emulators have to emulated the VT too though, no?

There's a shitload of legacy cruft in there.

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>>59710122
>>59714180
Done AMA

>>59714242
>There's a shitload of legacy cruft In there
Such as? Just curious.

>>59714229
>no one uses it
Actually lots of sysadmins use it but they just don't care as you say.

>>59710935
you spelled wxwidgets wrong senpai

>>59710935
Licence and hard to static link tbqh
should I use wxwidgets?

>>59714279
i haven't look into in a long time, maybe the other anon complaing about VT can help, but basically as far I know, the linux VT has to have the ability to emulate like dozens and dozens of old terminals that no one has ever even heard of.

>>59714351
Sounds like it can't really be helped

>>59714351
Apart of that, I understand that the Linux virtual terminal makes really difficult doing multiseating

>>59710672
https://www.windows93.net/

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>>59714273

>>59714443
it's pretty standard for electron apps to not give a shit about the conventions of the platform it's running on. web app designers are convinced they know better than DEs that have existed for 20-40 years

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For what purpose?

>>59714563
Holy shit that amount of pajeet

>>59714563
god damn i hate computers

>>59714166
It's like that adage of how many web developers does it take to fix simething. Seemingly more than are in this issue thread.

it is shit. clearly unuseable shit. i cant image a usecase for it. whenever i should show a clusterfuck i link to this.

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>>59710122
>>59714443
>>59714563
g-guys, it's a web browser too

>>59715535
wtf I hate it now

>>59715570
Why did you like it before?

>>59715578
Read >>59711740 and then >>59715570.

>>59710505
I hate that its standard c++

>>59712394
>use discord-electron
>uses more memory than having chromium open with discord in 1 tab

>>59710639
>meanwhile, at Hyper HQ...
>build app in nothing but JS
>"werks on my machine"
>$4000 iMac/Dell XPS with Nvidia graphics, SSD, 32GB RAM, and gigabit internet
>git push --force
>"hurr durr fuck it ship it guise *pounds beer*"

>>59710935
Just put the logic into its own library and use each OS's fancy UI toolkits to give each platform release its own unique brand identity.

>>59710122
inb4 endless "plugin" bloat and 20% cpu usage to keep the cursor blinking

>>59715770
Qt can already do that

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Is this real life?

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>>59715751
I-is this even possible?

>>59715972
LOL

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>>59716001

>>59710335
Crashing the kernel with no survivors.

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>>59710285
the sad thing is it can't, most programmers these days are too stupid

>>59716046
tavis omandy 0 day (((GOYIMSCRIPT))) terminal to kernel when?

Does it have ssh plugin? i hate fucking pputty
t. winpajeet

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>>59713909
We already have Terminology

>>59714127
The gnome shell is written in C. The extensions are written in javascript.

>>59716257
sauce on 4men, even though the name is gay

4term is better

>>59716356
That's actually the "new" name.
https://github.com/shitsux/4term

Haven't touched it in years, so probably won't work anymore.

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>>59710122
>Download Hyper for Windows

>>59715972
you'll get one renderer process per tab or whatever the fuck it calls them (every cef browser instance gets a separate render process)

the browser-side JS environment lives in them, too

It's a really good terminal though. I use it and it's really smooth and very easily customizable with easy to install and use plugins. I know you manbabies like to overcomplicate shit with your Arch bullshit, but we productive people who use superior software and hardware made by Apple need fast and simple to use software.

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>>59713961
Temple OS has fucking 3D graphics in the terminal and text editor.
The Linux community should feel ashamed.

>>59710335
Javascript javascript compiler

>>59714131
Maybe it's a good idea... maybe hipster will learn to code drivers

>63,72 MB

How comes with continuously improving hardware the software is getting more and more shitty?

>>59716621
>he doesn't know

https://github.com/jterrace/js.js/

>>59716532
How does it compare to iterm2? I don't, make the most out of iterm2, but i do very heavily use the quake console drop down setup, as well as the split right and split down keyboard shortcuts, and the command broadcasting. My terminal must support all of those.

I am interested in this if only for cross platform, especiallly since there isn't a Windows terminal that comes close to iterm2.

I hope that one day we can detect if a foetus will turn out to be a JS memer so we can start aborting them.

Looks like hyper is slow as fuck:

https://youtu.be/O3lL68UpduI

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>>59716578
Terry A Davis is a genius with divine intellect what do you expect.
No body in the Linux community can compete.
I mean they probably doesn't even know what a random number is for fucks sake.

>>59710335
that game was epic

>>59710122
Use this one senpai
https://github.com/meh/cancer

>>59717279
What is a random number?

>>59716578
>>59717279
Go back to your stupid livestream.

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>>59717300
NIST makes the standards for all Laboratory science. They use a platinum kilogram to calibrate gas pumps and shit. The whitest of the white scientists. They don't use stupid shitty random numbers on their website. They're a national research institution so if they fucked up all the scientists would be wrong. They're the whitest of the white scientists, they use fucking platinum kilograms. You think when you go to the NIST website they use some cheesy fucking garbage random number? No, they are the whitest of the white scientists, it is the fucking platinum kilogram of random numbers that you get. Or else all their measurements would be wrong, all the meters would be off, and the gas pumps wouldn't be calibrated. You think the whitest of the white scientists who calibrate gas pumps with a fucking platinum kilogram would fuck up their random numbers?That's what you get on NIST's website, I'm sure they're niggers and they can't understand cybersecurity, but also lottery ping pong balls are real random numbers. The state lottery puts 6 random numbers on their website every 24 hours. You can bet that the state lottery has better security than NIST, of course.

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>>59717300
Why would the whitest of the white scientists fuck up a static web page? How are the whitest of the white scientists going to do worse than the state lottery? All they're doing is hosting a fuckin webpage with random numbers. On their website is the fucking phone number of the fucking director of the fucking beacon. If you wanna talk to Rene Peralta you can talk to her at nist.gov. Tell her to check the random number cause you don't trust the fuckin random number on the fuckin website. Anyone can hack the state lottery website, it's easy. Of course. You can't trust the random numbers because it's so easy to hack with a man in the middle. You gotta check your lottery numbers every 3 or 4 days just to get around the man in the middle, cause we all know they put men in the middle. We all know that the state lottery can't fuckin do random numbers but it's obvious that the whitest of the white research scientists in the scientsts, there's no way the whitest of the whitest fuckin scientists in the world, could make a random number static FUCKIN web page? You think you have to see the fuckin balls, man? You have to see the fuckin ping pong balls? You don't trust the whitest of the white scientists at NIST? Fucking niggers with their monkey brains cannot comprehend what a random number made by white scientists is. They have to see the fuckin ping pong balls because they don't trust the men in the middle. They don't trust the whitest of the white scientists. I'm tired of these fucking monkey niggers. FUCK THEM.

>>59717382
>>59717399
What is a random number?

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>>59717410
>What is a random number?
Fucking niggers with their monkey brains cannot comprehend what a random number made by white scientists is.

>>59717423
What is a random number?

>>59710335
self-hosting js interpreter

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>>59715972
>gpu accelerated terminal

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>>59711111
Wasted quints

>>59715972
holy shit

>>59710122
What have computers become?
Is this what we want?

>>59710122
why do people use electron, a perfectly good cross platform app framework for shit that it is least suited for?

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angery

>>59717839

Same reason people make 3D games in Java, I guess:

They're retarded.

>>59710122
Idk about JavaScript but I like the idea of being able to easily style it with css.

Sounds like you can make it pretty fancy.

>>59717856
What's retarded about that?
All the resource-intensive shit gets done by C libraries and GPU.

>>59717876

> MUUH CSS COLORS FADE ROUNDED DESIGN MAYMAY XDDD

KILL YOURSELF

>>59717878
See >>59715972
Takes about three cores to display a goddamn terminal. No way that could be deemed acceptable.

>>59717895
It was in response to "3D games in Java",
which is nothing like using a web browser for a terminal.

>>59716283
https://github.com/GNOME?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=gnome-shell&type=&language=

>>59717915
Ah.

Well, you'd have to concur that there bare almost no 3d games written in Java despite large developer base. I can't point out a particular problem with making 3D games on Java, but something does seem to be off.

>>59717894

>Not wanting a plain and simple solution to fonts/colors/etc

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>>59710703
>>59710680
*.app is OS X/macOS extension denoting application bundle and its perfectly valid to use it in this context because that's how you execute and access them from shell.
Fucking uninformed lin/wincucks

>>59718001

>mac

you know you have to be 18 to use this site, right?

>>59711833
You have Java with JavaFX for UI that you can also style with CSS and it destroys every single shitty Electron/JS program.
JS belongs in the browser and only meme hipster web fags who only ever used JS try to use it for desktop and backed applications.

>>59710997
>>59713889
>>59712394
>>59715644


If your computer can't handle the amount of memory consumption used by hyper, maybe your computer is an old piece of shit and you're a poor fag


Seriously. What's the point of having a tower with 32gb of ram and not willing to spare a measly bit of memory for a program?


Cancer

>>59718105
0/10

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>>59718023
Can you even see the light from that deep rabbit hole you're in?

>>59718119
Some people don't want to be minimalists. People will always find a way to screech autistically over something other people willingly choose to use.

>B..But on much shitty PC I can't afford to use any spare ram

>Yeah but on my pc I can, so deal with it
>Ramlets

>>59714563
looks like its designed for windows 10 users. no sane person will use that.

>>59718200
Umm no sweetie. This isn't the 80s , everyone who's going to college or is getting taught Cs and programming is learning with JavaScript etc.


This is the terminal of the new generation. Get over it.


Quit being upset that your shitty term probably hasn't been updated since it's been released.

>>59718253
jesus fucking christ.

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>>59718253

>>59718332
>Nod an argubent

But hey, feel free to use your default xterm or cmd on Windex.

Maybe you can add the logo of your current os along with some of your specs into your terminal, make a million threads showing it off.


That's about the only thing you ramlets use your terminals for anyway.


I'll be fucking your waifu after I blow her mind by showing her my hyper term.

>>59716666
That's the last thing I want.
>keyboard lags when typing with high wpm

>>59710672
https://node-os.com/

>>59718253
I know this is bait,
but I've learned with Racket (functional), C, C++, Java (user interfaces) in uni

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>>59718404

>>59715618
C++11/14 is a good language

>>59711500

> Async malloc

Hyper is shit. And it's not just shit because it's JS/Electron and slow as shit. It actually works like shit as a terminal. I couldn't find any redeeming qualities about it when I tried it.

>>59718572
Can't wait to install hyper term when I get home.

>>59718777
The 70s called, they said they want their low mem ramlets back.

>>59718820
RAM is irrelevant when Hyper just doesn't work.

>>59717284
my childhood

>>59718105
Using all that ram invariably means barely anything can fit in CPU cache, which means the application will be slower executing than an application which is more efficient with its memory. Juddering and pegging a modern cpu core when the UI updates is not a good thing.

>>59718105
I have a custom built i7-6700K tower. Lack of power is not the issue. It's the misuse of said power.

A terminal eating shitloads of memory and keeping 3+ cores busy is a lot like a Prius burning through gas at the same rate as a Hummer. Nobody would tolerate such a shitty vehicle.

>>59716164
you beat me m8 *tips fedora*

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Which one is not like the others?

>>59719982
no point in using it if it can't even display ncmpcpp properly.

>>59710335
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/adrien-thierry/nectarjs-compile-javascript-for-and-from-any-devic
25gb javascript compiler as a service.
>Compiler As A Service is the best way to provide you a light and powerful tool. NectarJS' heart is currently weighing more than 25GB while the NectarJS' client less than 3MB.

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>>59710935

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>>59717279
>they
>doesn't