Why the fuck does windows use Alt+F4 to close apps

>>59703045
>twisting your wrist like a retard
What? I just twist my thumb and hit F4 with my middle finger
In any case I tend to use ctrl+w far more often

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>>59703045

>>59703045
You could use both hands to use that combo too.

>apps

FUCKING FAGGOT GIT THE FUCK OUT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>59703045
https://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/One-Dev-Minute/One-Dev-Question-with-Raymond-Chen-Why-AltF4-Closes-a-Window

Cmd+Q master race

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>>59703275
apps, short for applications, which is terminology that pre-dates i-things.

Learn some history, faggot.

It would be a fucking disaster if you can close programs by hitting some easy to hit key combination. This way there's almost no chance that you hit it by accident.

>>59703275
It's common shorthand for application. Drop the autism.

>>59703294
That doesn't answer why it's F4 specifically.

>>59703045
How about you use both hands you inbred faggot spic nigger kike faggot retard?

>>59703314
It is only because Q/quit are English-specific and even then, the position of q would change with alternate keyboard layouts.

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>>59703069
>What? I just twist my thumb and hit F4 with my middle finger
exactly, which makes this a thinly veiled troll thread

>>59703339
So why F4 instead of F1 or F2 or something? Your comment isn't enough to change my statement.

>>59703357
Maybe they were already taken?

>>59703045
Use Autohotkey and reassign it to Ctrl+Q, faglord.

>>59703336

Other hand is either on mouse, or busy jerking off to pictures of you mom

>>59703294
>>59703335
the last comment does

>>59703739

How do Mac and Linux users solve this? Mac is cmd+w / cmd+q, while linux is crtl+w / ctrl+q

What do those OSes do in other locales?

>>59703739
>You don't translate function keys, so it's a safe place to put stuff
No, again, that only tells why it's a function key, not why it's F4 specifically.

>>59703771
the assignment at the time was arbitrary. it could have just as easily been F9. you're talking about a throw of the dice that occurred 25 years ago. the rest is history.

Who CTRL+W master race here?

>>59703294
Alt+Esc would have been better then, that chink doesn't know shit.

>>59703045
Exactly so it is difficult to use, so you don't accidentally close a window.

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>>59703294
>the function keys don't go anywhere
except they literally do. also, when microsoft invented alt+a4 in the mid eighties, cold war was on, chinese keyboards weren't invented and it was even illegal to export computer equipment to the eastern bloc, so that's the most stupid excuse ever

i'm glad i haven't used that shit since Windows 2000

>>59703926
alt+esc seems even better than ctrl+w

>apps

>>59703275
I was talking about PuTTY you autistic retard

why does ctrl+esc open the start menu when the windows key does the same thing and it's right next to ctrl

>>59704812
Legacy maybe. But have you try ctrl+shift+esc?

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>>59703045
>windows
Gnome, KDE and Xfce. probably others too.
i don't mind it. at least you could never hit it accidentally, unlike the (ctrl + q) "exit all windows without warning" fuckery on firefox