KSPRO UMPC

>>59700896
Nice try bby

>>59700896
>750 eurobucks
wtf?

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>>59700896
not this shit again

>>59700982
get cucked europoor

>>59700984
OP here, I actually backed the project with $450 to get the Android version asap

>>59700896
no linux though

I'll stick to my Thinkpads, no thank you.

>>59700896
ARM CPU running Windows?
what does it mean? Will you be able to run x86-64 programs for win?

>>59700896
>4G
Finally

>>59701513
Emulation.

>>59700896
But why? Just stick to running x86 code on x86 processors you fuck, the performance penalty won't be worth it. Use an E3950 or something.

>>59701571
Face it, it's an Android device. The Windows version will suck major balls but with Android it's gonna be unreal. Windows isn't good on screens that small anyways.

>>59700896
but can it run GNU/Linux? i dont want a windows only device.

>>59701963
or a android only device with a locked bootloader

>>59700896
>8.2"
>2560x1440
why

>>59700896
>winblows
you mean the ARM one with x86 translation support?
Are we talking about this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_GlGglbu1U

>>59700896
>no Linux support
you almost had me

>ARM
DOA
O
A

>>59702020
>android
>not linux

>>59701987
Why not? More pixels = better

>>59702078
Better for what?
more pixels = more power consumption
>more iGPU processing = even more power consumption
more scaling and other useless processing = extra power consumption

the more power it consumes the less mobile and usable it is.

>>59702115
It's an ARM CPU. Power comsumption is low and the battery is powerful enough to make for 12 hours of use. A higher pixel density leads to clear text and scaling isn't that bad, especially on Android. Who is gonna use the Windows version anyways?

>>59702155
can you tell 1080p and 1440p apart at 8"?
Seems like a waste on most accounts.
1080p seems to be pushing it too.

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Really like the modular design and features of the pyra dragonbox, too bad it is underpowered as fuck.

https://sketchfab.com/models/9e707ed157f94ed498cdf002974ea135

>>59700896
>indiegogo.com

Do you enjoy being scammed OP? I don't.

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>>59702155
But I want 20 hours instead of 12 hours of use.
>leads to clear text and scaling
are you autistic? It's a 8" screen. Without a magnifier you will NEVER spot a difference between 1080p and 1440p.
Why not make it 2160p?

The biggest problem with these is that they come with a 16:9 screen. On most devices I wouldn't care but this thing is so small that more lines of text would really matter.

>>59702538
(You)

You know what's the difference between Coolest cooler and this? At least CC had a working prototype.

>>59702489
>Without a magnifier you will NEVER spot a difference between 1080p and 1440p

>says anon after jerking off to anime on his 1440p smartphone.

>>59702489
>1440p
>p

>>59702646
I got a 720p smartphone, you dumb slut.
And unlike you I don't have the need of jerking off to porn. This is where my boyfriend comes in.

>ARM
dropped

>>59702646
This. Higher resolutions than 1080p should be the standard by now. Jesus Chist, it's 2000+17. There's no justification for anything lower than 4k on the desktop or 1440p on a mobile device. Though I have to admit I'd rather have the standard at 2560x1600.

>>59702703
>Jesus Chist, it's 2000+17
And we still got the same technology to store power, aka liion/lipo batteries.
Until this changes we have to be careful with throwing all these useless gimmicks into every device, unless you're satisfied with 10 hours battery life, which is absolutely pathetic.

>>59702736
That's not how it works. If we stick with lower resolutions but good battery life with current technology there would be no reason to further develop battery technology.

Ansonsten resolution greater than 1600x1200 was a mistake

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>>59702771
>t. someone who owns a 1600x1200 screen and is too poor to get anything higher resolution that would be objectively and subjectively superior

>>59702765
>there would be no reason to further develop battery technology.
I sure wish I could use my smartphone for days on a single charge (like my old phones) instead of differences in pixel density you can't even see

>>59702697
That's why you broke your cellphone screen.

>>59702765
but I don't want bigger screens. I want better battery life.
Deal with it. This is what normal people choose.

>>59700896
Windows 10 is free on devices under 10", why is it 150$ more ?

>>59700896
It's ARM

It's not a UMPC

>>59700896
Why do people who discuss a GPD product get called shills, though they are even talking about it's flaws and saying it's a very niche product and not for everyone.

When this thread here is obviously an actual shill focusing on selling a product?

>>59700896
>Windows on an ARM CPU emulating x86
>Android
I'll pass

>>59704405
Since when is x86 a requirement for a computer to qualify as a PC? Is this the early 90s when the term "IBM compatible PC" was a thing?

>>59705229
Ok, then my smartphone and tablet are UMPCs.

>>59705229
There is no official definition for a UMPC.
But the term was coined by Microsoft and Intel collaboration for their x86 based small PCs.

So from then on, only x86 based small computers have been called UMPC.
Things like the ARM based OpenPandora are just considered handhelds or PDAs.

The idea of UMPC is way older and only x86 machines where called ultra portables from where UMPC continued on.
The rest where always called something on the lines of PDAs.

>>59705260
I didn't say UMPC, I said PC. A literal PC as in personal computer.

>>59700896
How is it running windows if it isn't X86?

>>59705274
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_10
look at the platforms section

>>59705260
To add to that:
Microsoft actually did have a specification for manufacturers who wanted their products to be UMPCs, it required it to be smaller than 7 inches, have a x86 based processor and be able to run Windows if needed.

>>59705272
No? What a dumb question is that.
PC as in Personal Computer counts for any computer.
PC as in PC Compatible is only for x86.

>>59705274
Emulation. I don't know if the whole OS is x86 or if it's an ARM OS with x86 emulation (like Windows NT on Alpha) but either way I expect it to be shit

>>59700994
Sucker!

You won't get shit.

>>59705292
>PC as in Personal Computer counts for any computer.
Bullshit. It doesn't count for super computers and it certainly doesn't count for embedded systems which make up the majority of the computer market.

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>>59700896
>The UMPC that has been promised for decades but not delivered until now
But it's not even x86? I want a UMPC, then I want a x86 device obviously....
Even the Pocket would be a better idea and that is not even appealing and just a ruined change.

>>59705284
>>59705295
So is it fully compatible with X86 programs?

Will it run dorf fort?

>>59705322
Are you slightly retarded? He was obviously talking about computers like desktops and laptops.
If it's a super computer or embedded system, then it already has it's own category it belong to.

>>59705350
The term "any computer" does certainly not refer to desktops and laptops exclusively. "any computer" literally means anything that has a CPU.

>>59705413
Because you are being an autistic fuck who just has to shitpost, if you would have kept reading the discussion you would obviously understand that the talk wasn't just about any computer.

>>59705322
>>59705413
any compact computer for individual use*
Happy?

>>59700896
that's not a UMPC

>BTFO GPD.
at least GPD shit is actual UMPC

>>59700896
But can you install gentoo in it?

>>59707033
Why?

>>59705431
>t. someone who believes percise language isn't the foundation of civilization
idiot

>>59707217
Actually no.

>>59700896
ah yes

indie no no

>>59707258
Kek

>>59705292
>PC as in PC Compatible is only for x86.
Not all x86 machines are PC compatibles, there's a list of retarded obsolete specs to have

>>59707309
But all PC Compatibles are x86.

Why did you even bring this up?

>>59707217
The illiterate have always shaped civilization, sadly.
Even now.

>>59707333
trivia

>>59707309
>not all fish are herring
>but all herring are fish
we don't even have PC compatible hardware on sale anymore, most new EFI solutions don't even support legacy mode anymore

>Snapdragon
Dropped.

>>59702703
>I am legitimately mentally handicapped

>>59702703
What has year 2000 to do with it?
I was running a higher resolution than full HD in 2000.

>>59707371
Soon the time of the SJWs will begin

>>59700896
It doesn't even look like you can close it without fucking the screen on that render.

>>59707614
It's just bait to cash in anyways.

Such thing would not even pass in Kickstarter

>>59702306
Are there any news on when it's coming out? It's been a freaking decade or so since the Pandora.

>>59707824
Hasn't the Pyra been out for quite some time?

>>59700994
>backing a project
HAHAHAHAHAH

>>59700896
>If we fall short of our $300K target a full refund will be issued and we will learn from the experience and try again
dropped

>>59701513
In short, no.

>>59707824
>>59707842
No.

Pyra is "in development".
It's a ridiculous project, it's hardware has outdated several times turning its development.
They want 600 eur for the base model.

The developers working on the Pyra are very much amateurs, they are always nagging on other companies who bring out similar products with even better specs for cheaper while getting nowhere with their own.

>>59707888
The worst part is that they will most likely get the goal and just fuck off with the money.

>>59707999
They are ok with that because they want this to be the last device they make. I don't actually mind if they take a long time to perfect the shell, after all, it's the last one ever, and from now they will only release SoC upgrades. Besides it's running a custom OS with software written specifically for it isn't it? It's not that bad.

And yes, this is like a 1-man project isn't it? I'm fairly sure most of the rest of the people involved are just contractors and volunteers.

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>>59700896

So they're developing a tablet with a keyboard, and they want $450 for it

welp

>>59708148
Doesn't change the fact that it's a failure.

>>59708148
Kek.

EvilDragon is now selling GPD Wins with a huge profit to fund himself.
Even though he was sure the product will fail when it was announced.

>>59708187
>dat pic
Thank God we at least still have AMD

>>59708305
Well that guy just reeks of autism, but I don't judge the product by who makes it.

>>59709615
>I don't judge the product by who makes it
If it was just a person in a team I wouldn't either, but a single person doing the whole project, I'm not sure that he will always make the right decision.

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>>59700896
I feel sorry for the people working for this company, already knowing this device will fail.

>Snapdragon
No
I don't want to be fucked by no drivers and needing to stay in some old ass version full of security holes

>>59709656
He definitely could end up fucking something up. But AFAIK he's only the project manager, all the real work is done by contractors, so what he could fucked up is shipping, or the selling process and delivery (which, if I recall, was a massive fuck up for the Pandora, and some people didn't received theirs for like a year or 2).

One can only hope I guess, hope that he learned from his mistakes and doesn't go full autismo or something, it's not like I pre-ordered one anyways, but the community is very nice and dedicated, I believe they have a lot of crossover with the GPD Win community, since it's just people who want small UMPCs, so for their sake I hope everything goes right.

And anyhow, I guess it's a good sign that he's willing to admit that he was wrong about the GPD meme, and not take it as a threat to his project, rather than throwing a tantrum or something like that.

No trackpoint buttons, no buy.

>>59709804
Pandora community really was nice, but Pyra just seems a dead end.
Obviously it would be good to have more of that kind of devices, even though the Pandora/Pyra aren't considered UMPCs and more just Linux handhelds, even by their own fans.

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>>59700896
Will this be better than a laptop?

>The answer is no.

>>59709884
I just went into their site to see what's up and they've been posting updates rather frequently, apparently they "think" they will start shipping this year, but there does seem to be a lot of people, at least on the forums.

I'm not sure how realistic this is, but whatshisface said in an interview that it could be possible, later down the line, to upgrade the Pyra with an x86 compatible CPU. Tho he said it as if someone else was going to make it, he hopes that third parties will be making CPU upgrades for the system, which to me seems rather unlikely.

>>59700896
are they both snapdragons?

>>59709896
Is many better than laptop for size. Very very good.
Just need credit card information.

>>59700896
>indiegogo
Enjoy getting scammed.

>>59701870
Probably

>>59702489
it's completely standard. in 2017 you're supposed to put a QHD on a <6" screen phone now or the reviewers won't call it premium.

i agree with you though

>>59709896
Where size matters it will be. Where power matters you shouldn't be using a laptop anyway.