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So I've been living under a rock for the past couple of years. I just discovered the Raspberry Pi.
Can we have a Raspberry Pi thread?

These things look amazing
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>>59690184
That must be one massive fucking rock mate
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>>59690184
Clones like the orange PI make the original look like a toy.
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I heard that something better than the Pi came out recently, but I stopped giving a shit a few years ago.
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99% of us buy one and don't have a practical use for it, so it sits in the spare parts bin/closet
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>>59690256
This. The last time I actually used the Pi for anything was making a dirt cheap Linux desktop for an older family member who just wanted to watch YouTube and check their email. Originally I was going to make it a file server for myself, but it's so fucking slow.
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>>59690293
I've heard people use it as sort of a 24/7 torrent box, would it work for that?
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>>59690306
yes if you have a huge sdcard or external powered usb hdd
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>>59690184
>These things look amazing
They really aren't. There were 48 GB RAM Fujitsu servers on Ebay for 100 dollars a couple days ago. You could set up 47 virtual machines and each one would be more powerful and useful than that.
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>>59690306
Eh I guess since its so low power. Problem is that the rpi Ethernet speed shares it's bandwidth with the USB ports.
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>>59690306
It could but the USB ports plus Ethernet are all on a USB hub going to one USB connection, you would be bandwidth starved very quickly
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>>59690256
I can see that. The idea of a 40 dollar computer sounds really cool though. I don't know what I would use it for
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this is how raspberry pifags actually live
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>>59690319
>>59690325
>>59690335

Yeah sounds kinda dumb, saw it on those meme sites you know.

ONE COOL TRICK etc.
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>>59690347
You could always roll your own Kodi box, the clones are better though since you have more leeway on codecs
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>>59690347
literally the only reason to buy one of these is the purpose they were originally made for; if you have a project that requires gpio and you don't want to mess with embedded programming (or if you want to use a scripting language), the raspberry pi can do that. for everything else it's a terrible computer
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Is there any better board for a TV media center with Kodi and Retropie?
I'll probably buy Raspberry pi 3 for that soon, because it should handle 1080p content just fine and will probably get software updates for the next years because of it's popularity.
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So if you get a Pi and a touch display for it, and with the right software you could potentially have a phone, huh?
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>>59690184
Someone have the info graph with like 10 different models that was pretty much shitting on pi?
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pis are great, it's just what they can do is done better either by a cheap used laptop off of ebay (like a thinkpad x200, or t400/500 if you want a displayport connector without a dock) or by a proper microcontroller

what you really should buy a pi for is convenience when using it for the microcontroller side (as >>59690409 points out) or for the extremely small formfactor (at the expense of basically no performance) side

take of instance the typical mail/irc/nas/storage/torrent/etc server, a pi will handle a single instance of these without too much trouble but an older laptop or small form factor computer will do a lot of them a lot better and not be severely bottlenecked at every stage

>>59690203

what a coincidence, because lack of driver and community support make the clones look like toys :^)

on a serious note, please check to make sure what you actually want to do is supported before buying a knockoff to save yourself some headache

>>59690419
>Is there any better board for a TV media center with Kodi and Retropie?

single board? probably not if you want decent longevity but an older used laptop will handle it much better

the first rpi could technically handle 1080p streaming too, it didn't do it well, and the rpi3 wasn't that much of an improvement (although the ui is less prone to lockup)
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>>59690306
I do that but with an Orange Pi and an external 2tb HDD.

It maxes my download and upload just fine, also running an Owncloud instance, Samba NAS and a VPN on it.
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>>59690203
This, the raspis suck dick as opposed to the clones.
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>>59690347
>Be me
>Decide to live out in the woods because society is going to shit
>Buy a cheap plot of land
>Build a shack with solar panels on the roof
>Get PC out of storage
>Play Crysis
>PC draws too much power because it's AMD
>Bluescreens and/or shutsdown
>Buys Raspberry Pi, because I'm not an Intel/Nvidia cuck
>Compute happily ever after on mere 5 Watts of power
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>>59690553
Nice shilling/PR campaign, m8
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>>59690184
>look
wat
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>>59690357

I am so hard right now
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>>59690558
If you are running a VPN from your home won't you just have the same ip?
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>>59690816
One could connect to their home vpn away from home if for instance they had to connect to an open hotspot and wanted to stay secure without using a 3rd party vpn.
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Okay so according to
> http://news.energysage.com/how-much-does-the-average-solar-panel-installation-cost-in-the-u-s/
you can expect about $4/watt through solar panels yeah?
And if the Rasp3 requires 10-12 watts, could I actually power one with just a $50 solar array?
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>>59690323
A Raspberry Pi Zero takes less than 10 watts an hour. The running costs are a lot cheaper for lightweight tasks like DNS adblocking and torrenting (if you're not in a hurry)

>>59690419
Been using a Rpi3 with osmc and Retropie for over a year now. Price/performance couldn't be better.
Whenever I have friends over I stream Youtube music videos to the Pi via the Yatse app. Also great for watching movies from network shares or streaming Twitch and Internetradio.
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>>59690347
I thought so to until I realized even the rpi3 is too weak to do even the most basic of computer things like browsing, torrenting, etc. It can display HD video only through a command line video player like are you fucking kidding me.

The only reason is using the gpio pins or whatever
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>>59690976
>watts an hour
Joules per second per second? I don't like my devices' energy usage accelerating.
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>>59690816
I don't trust wifi hotspots that aren't mine.
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>>59691273
Wh perhaps? I think you get what I mean if you don't have autism.
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>>59690203
>allwinner
>not a toy

ok kid
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>>59690184
If you don't need the GPIO stuff you are better of getting a used thin client or something off ebay.
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>>59690765
>Nice shilling/PR campaign, m8

what am I supposed to be shilling for, exactly? generic laptops and 8 year old thinkpads, and generic small form factor computers?
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>>59690256
I have the bits to make a couple of ntp servers.
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.
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I've had the bits for a couple of years now :/
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>>59690357
That VN is pretty weak.
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>>59690967
Think someone makes a recharging hat for the pi.
So the pi can continue working for a bit when the solars aren't producing much power.
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>seedbox/i2p server on one
>car dashboard on another
>portable handheld smaller than my phone on a pi zero
i don't actually have the last two done completely but bruh
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just got my first pi this week.

NAS and Lakka works fine.
Good stuff to play around.
Ordered all the equipment from ali. so it was just 60 bucks in total (minus the SD card).
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>>59690357
>Trying to simulate your dead wife and daughter
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>>59690553
>because lack of driver and community support make the clones look like toys :^)
NUUR
I love muh fully open hardware orange pi's.
Build a project with them, then once you're happy with them take the board filed and roll your own unit, all drivers and software already taken care of.
> please check to make sure what you actually want to do is supported before buying a knockoff to save yourself some headache
This tho. Friend of mine bought a bunch of boards from kickstarter or something because he thought the specs where amazing, then literally no-one ever released an image for them. He tried rolling his own arch image, but the thing ended up slower than a first gen Pi and all the amazing hardware he bought it for was useless because no drivers.
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>>59690638
My ideal goal, but with a laptop built from a orange pi, a bunch of orange pi's as a server, and a x86 mini-itx build for muh gaymen.
(And a data general nova in the closet if I can manage to find one)
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>>59690967
If you roll your own system you can get it at about 1/1 dollars per watt. I got a 20 pack of 4W cells for $60, that's $3 for a 4W cell that easily powers any pi I throw at it (Plus booster).
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>>59691015
>Install kodi
>More than sufficiant
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>>59690184
>Has problems with h.264 10bit
Only problem i see on it.
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>>59690976
>A Raspberry Pi Zero takes less than 10 watts an hour.
But 47 of them would be 470W, which is considerable. The server would probably draw less.
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>>59690553
>what a coincidence, because lack of driver and community support make the clones look like toys :^)

No, the lack of driver and community support make them less toys than rPi because you actually have to work to use them.

Most of the time anything available for rPi can be ported to one of the (ARM) clones but you need a knowledge of Linux to do it, you need to be able to work out what you need to change to make it work.

rPi are toys because there is massive hand holding and copypaste content for them. Clones are tools because you need to be involved in making what you want work.
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>>59695563
Bullshit, I'm sure the newer ones would handle even h.265 10 bit fine.
My three year old laptop does for god sake.
>>59696004
Bolloks.
Just because you "Need" a 2A 5V adaptor to run the thing doesn't mean it actually draws 10W.
I my tests boards idle at 100mA, or (5V*0.1A=)0.5W, and at most use around 500mA (5V*0.5A=)2.5W.
This whole 2A meme just came in because everyone was trying to run the things off shitty 500mA wall warts and they where dropping like flies.
10 fully utilised Pi's wouldn't use more than 50W, ever. 20 you could power with a fat person slowly pedaling a bicycle.
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>>59696048
Why do I have this weird feeling that you're an Arch or LFS user that solely uses FOSS?
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>>59696048
>Donating to armbian makes you part of the community
lol
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>>59690256
>>59690347
I installed Clementine, connected it with Spotify and use it as a phone controlled home stereo system.
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>>59690184
>So
Why would you even start your sentence with that, redditor?
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>>59690427
>huh
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>>59690967
>Okay so
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>>59690638
>phoneposts
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>>59696088
>or LFS user that solely uses FOSS
That dude is a retard.
Please don't mistake him as a LFSer or FOSSer.
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>>59696088
I use Debian actually but I have used Mandrake, Redhat, Gentoo and Arch in the past.

But my primary OS is Windows.
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>>59690184
It is made for rapid prototyping and interfacing with microcontrollers/IO. It's not a computer nerd's dream it's a DYI cheap electrical engineer's dream.
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What are the /g/ent's opinions on Pi Hole?
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I am very happy with my Raspberry Pi running RetroPie. I can't think of anything else I'd use it for though.
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>>59697636
the input lag is unforgivable
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>>59697683
>input lag

Are you using wireless controllers? I beat LttP on Retropie with a USB controller and didn't notice any input lag.
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>>59697713
>didn't notice any input lag
kek
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Whenever I see a guide on RPi projects, I flip through to see if anything really interesting crops up. So far the only one I've ever seen was an FM transmitter. Everything else is garbage or better handled by an Arduino/Android stick/etc.

Too much hype.
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>>59690256
I have 3 PIs, Pihole ad blocking for the network, torrenting, a Samba share, 3 cameras for surveillance, 2 motion sensors, KODI, a Groupme bot, and Ingress ICE. Planning on getting a Zero to stealth plant on public wifi to move torrenting off my network lol
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>>59697733
people who do interesting projects don't spend all their time writing guides, thats the hype monkeys.
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>>59697742
>lol
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>>59695097
Poor sysadmin. :(
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>>59697747
On the flip side, a hype monkey would be keen to write something up when running across an interesting project. Even as I look through this thread I get the impression that Anons do stuff on Pis just for the sake of it, rather than it being the best platform.
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I just use mine as a NAS and as a tool to gain some familiarity with unix. I have a webserver on it with a landing page as well, but I want to be fully sure my pi is secure enough before actually connecting it to the internet.
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>>59690419
odroidC2. runs well maintained builds of android. dedicated processing for hevc. the ultimate in cheap sbc media centers.
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>>59697781
yep, i've never used the gpios on my pi. It's just a tiny server that i keep on the table by my router that handles my mundane network services. It isn't a pi-focused project, it's just a tiny computer.
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>>59697797
>well maintained builds of android
>android
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99% of pis end up as an emulation machine, HTPC, or pi hole. Nothing wrong with that, but keep that in mind if you don't want one of those three uses.
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>>59697810
...which runs xbmc, smartguy.
>thinks he's safe from the """"""""BOTNET"""""""
bet you run windows or macos.
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>>59697841
android's just a shittier linux, you can disable the botnet and you'll still just have shit. odroid shills are constantly shitting up these threads because all they know is shit.
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>>59697883
recommend me a better sbc as a media center? one that also does netflix and spotify.
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>>59697907
xbmc runs on linux though
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>>59697925
there are android builds. it even runs on my shitty smartphone.
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>>59697951
that's nice, but why would you run android when you could just run linux instead?
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>>59698006
..netflix and spotify.
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>>59698022
but you can do that on linux too
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>>59698037
explain to me how to use netflix on linux without wine or mono
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>>59698061
i thought xbmc had a thing for that, but firefox and the chrom*'s do it too.
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>>59698083
that's a paid service for kodi. and no, the drm framework doesn't run on linux without emulation or wine/mono
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>>59698154
yeah it does, DRM's run on linux for like 2 years but you had to spoof a windows useragent for netflix to play. now it just accepts linux useragents too.

Chrome's always done it.
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>>59690533
I saw it posted recently forgot to save it though
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Why not have a bunch of RPI Zero ($5) each hooked up together? Or RPI Zero W ($10) which has built-in bluetooth and Wi-Fi.
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>>59696077
I said "less than" 10 watts per hour. When had it plugged in with an AC adapter I measured about 3-6W. Never calculated the power draw.
Nowadays I just have it plugged in at my router's USB port, which reduces consumption even further by eliminating one AC adapter.
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>>59698485
because both are utter shit compared to the similarly priced orange pi zero
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>>59698585
shit thats a great idea, why didn't i ever think of that?
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I have two Orange Pi PCs in my cluster so far. They are set up with openmpi for doing work later but for now they are running Asteroids@Home in the meantime.
My final goal is seven and I still need to devise some way to mount them for cooling.
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>>59698961
interesting

I'm thinking about getting some orange pi zeros and trying to teach myself to code some sort of cluster computing system. Ideally I'm thinking it would be cool if I setup some kind of plug and play stackable system where the more you stacked in the cluster the more power and higher quality whatever its doing would be. Does that sound cool?
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>>59690184
Get an orange pi. it's far better hardware for just a little extra bucks.
I did the stupid thing of getting a raspberry pi 3. It works don't get me wrong.
I've had it running 24/7 for the past 3 months as a torrent machine
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>>59699547
I can imagine it working, it could be a bit of a bitch to configure properly though.
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>>59690184

Here is my good old banana pi serving as a trusty seedbox.

Recently hit the 100days uptime milestone.
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>go to uni with raspi zero w
>setup reverse ssh tunnel
>use it for all my /devilish/ stuff
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What are some cool project ideas for an Arduino?
I have a Uno laying around somewhere that I've never used.
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>>59703217
yo dawg lemme snatch your dotfiles.
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Would a Pi 1 B+ be able to run Kodi? At all?
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>>59703323
Really isnt anything special. This is just xfce with some urxvt windows ssh in the banana to make some pretty screenies.

Anyways here you go:
> xfce trueminimalist
https://www.xfce-look.org/content/show.php/True+Minimalist?content=68319

> urxvt colours are relic dark
http://dotshare.it/dots/1039/
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>>59703373
Even my rpi zero is perfectly fine with 1080p@30fps playback. Wont even bother to go above 56C.

Menu is a "tiny bit" choppy tho
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>>59690184
If u want to use it for kodi just buy a Amazon fire stick.
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>>59690553
I agree with your two points
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>>59691015
>hur dur the gpio pins are the point.

Check out codesys, integrated hmi and is we connected, automation for a fraction of the price of a plc.
Biggest nuisance is paying extra for an rtc and there being no retain variables on shutting down.
I am going to get a bbb next.
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I have a raspberry pi zero w for a school project. It cannot even run desktop youtube without the browser crashing. Mobile youtube works a tad bit better.

Surprisingly, Minecraft works pretty well. The pi version, obviously.

I would suggest getting the Orange Pi Zero instead. For the same price, you get 4 cores and still have wifi.
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>>59690335
What if you connected the HDD to some of the Rasperry pins and ran that data through there? Would free up some space for Ethernet
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