/hsg/ Home Server General

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Anyone got any imagemacros of old homeserver jokes?

Anyone tried running pfsense on an odroid ux4?

>>59689513
>inb4 that one autismo who brags with his workstation shit and shills microsoft garbage like crazy

>>59689513
I'm getting a PC for free soon. It's moderately powerful but dated, it was built for gaymes in 2010 so it will need to upgrade some things such as storage and RAM. I want to turn it into a home server but I'm not entirely sure what I can do with it. What are some neat DIY things to try?

>>59690665
what sort of stuff are you into? Have you tried linux or BSD before?

>>59690972
I really like DIY projects and have a decent level of Linux experience but the furthest I've gotten was unsuccessfully running a CentOS FTP server. Why it didn't work I never fully understood but I got the gist of it.

For what it's worth the machine runs Win7 and I have experience with VMs.

>>59691067
what about getting an FTP server set up then? Then you can cross that off as a sucess. you could use debian which is very easy

>>59691139
how is your hearing, then?

>>59691139
this is so fucking nice

>>59691219
the switch and firewall make more noise than anything else combined by a long shot. and naturally that room is dedicated to that stuff

>ESXi 6.5 on quad core Xeon E3 workstation
>16GB RAM, 120GB SSD
>PfSense and Debian webserver
>Ruckus 7962 AP

I want to get a server to run a couple of Windows guests alongside what I already have running. Any recommendations for a cheap server off eBay or something?

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>>59689513

small enclosed rack with my nas and all the networking shoved under basement stairs. I don't know how all you niggers deal with the noise and the heat leaving this out in the open.

>consumer grade networking

The only thing cheaper than used enterprise gear is used consumer gear.

>>59691092
Sounds like something I'd try.

Would I be able to set it up so that I could use it without a kb&m? Remote or SSH into it?

>>59691712
yes, SSH is the best thing ever!

and im over here using a netbook from 2010 with an external hard-drive as my home server.
nzbget server set to auto download NZBs
use it for streaming media (no transcoding)
CCTV uploads 10MB videos to it.
TV (OTA) recorder/stream

Using the old trust 2500k as a server now that ryzen is out.
2x3TB hdds for my storage, 2x1TB hdds just for seeding.
Running web server, NAS, torrents.

Nothing special at all but it's maddening to see the kind of junk people on here have.

>>59691067
>the furthest I've gotten was unsuccessfully running a CentOS FTP server. Why it didn't work I never fully understood

CentOS <-- problem found.

>>59691139
2005 tier

>>59692160
This. Debian >>>>> RHEL/CentOS/Fedora

i'll never understand people who need a +500w machine running 24/7 to host videos or some torrent box.
its like having a Hummer H2 running 24/7, only to use it in the city on the weekend

>>59692160
>>59692240
What's wrong with CentOS?

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>>59689513

$ neofetch 
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  ,g$$P"     """Y$$.".        OS: Debian GNU/Linux 8.7 (jessie) x86_64 
 ,$$P'              `$$$.     Model: HP t610 WW Thin Client 
',$$P       ,ggs.     `$$b:   Kernel: 3.16.0-4-amd64 
`d$$'     ,$P"'   .    $$$    Uptime: 6 days, 23 hours, 31 minutes 
 $$P      d$'     ,    $$P    Packages: 1271 
 $$:      $$.   -    ,d$$'    Shell: bash 4.3.30 
 $$;      Y$b._   _,d$P'      CPU: AMD G-T56N (2) @ 1.6GHz 
 Y$$.    `.`"Y$$$$P"'         GPU: AMD Radeon HD 6320 
 `$$b      "-.__              Memory: 2102MiB / 7942MiB 
  `Y$$                        Disk (/): 2.9G / 12G (24%) 
   `Y$$.                      Disk (/backup): 71G / 267G (27%) 
     `$$b.                    Disk (/data): 714G / 917G (78%) 
       `Y$$b.                 Disk (/data2): 133G / 193G (69%) 
          `"Y$b._             Disk (/sysexp): 17G / 29G (60%) 
              `"""  

Does the job fine and never gets old.

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>>59692325
here are full specs if anyone gives a shit

>>59691139
What software are you running in the servers?

>>59689579
I don't get the joke

>>59692469
okay

>>59692325
NEVER OBSOLETE

>>59692304
>Yum

>>59692464
3 esxi hosts and 1 that is sitting while i build up the nerve to spend $1000 to fill it up with drives for a 6x6 radi6 nas

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>>59691139
why won't you clean this shit up and move everything into a small rack cabinet?
You'll save A LOT of space that way, and it's gonna look much more professional.

>>59692513
because space isnt an issue and i dont care

>>59691397
>I don't know how all you niggers deal with the noise and the heat leaving this out in the open.
One solution I've seen was putting a duct directly to the outside from the back of the rack to dump all that heat outside. Angle the outside vent downward and put a large commercial-grade fan on the intake so you don't have to worry about water or debris intake.

>>59692513
Why the fuck do you have four WAP/wireless bridges?

>>59692531
Disgusting.
You can also take a shit on one of these servers. It will make no difference to how it looks.

Do you also move around your house naked because "noone is looking" and "I don't care"? Do you even daily take a shower?

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shitty hardware but it werks
> router
> ipv6 tunnel

>>59692592
Do you also move around your house naked because "noone is looking" and "I don't care"
only in the morning
or at night

>>59692625
>SiS
Holy shit.

>>59692680
yep, cannot install gnu/linux without external graphics card

>>59689513
>home server
>not cloud server
D E P R E C A T E D

>>59692469
You were in middle school at the time

>>59692592
why should i give a shit how it looks?

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My little Windows Home Server 2011 box has done me good for a long time now. Currently got around 7.5TB of mixed data. Does all I require without fail. Specs: Opteron-170 2.0 Ghz/4GB Ram/10TB (storage)/1TB (OS/Client Backups).
Currently holding at 7.5TB cause I plan to totally gut and build a new server late this year. Once the data is moved over to the new drives I plan to create a master Archive backup of all existing data ( stored on a single 8TB drive) (I hope Macrum Reflect's high compression rate will allow all 7.5TB to fit on a single 8TB drive) and keep said drive for long term safe keeping. I do have other backups but this will just be extra insurance.

Rack from top to bottom, I don't have pics right now

Ubiquiti UAP-AC-Lite
ZyXEL GS1920-24 (core switch)
2x Ubiquiti ER-X-SFP
2x Old 3com 48 port gigabit managed switch
Dell PowerEdge 2950 with a Xeon E5335 and 18GB RAM running Proxmox
2x Supermicro server with 4GB RAM and a Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600, one running Confluence and Jira
Old desktop PC with quad core AMD and 4GB RAM
MGE UPS, 3000VA

In the back is a APC Zero-U switched and metered PDU
On the other side of the room is a ZyXEL GS1900-10HP switch that connects an ODROID U2, a TV and a laptop (Dell XPS 13 from 2013) running Kodi
Both switches and routers are connected over OM3 fiber, because why not

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recently finished converting a SATA-to-SCSI controller I got for cheap to fit a regular microATX system.

the case/backplane has some nice features like redundant supplies, front LCD/buttons, HDD bay power ctl, LEDs, etc

took a bit of work to reverse engineer all of that, but was a cool project and everything ended up working fine.

in the end I have NAS with 8 SATA bays + 2 internal SATA ports, redundant PSUs and some other cool stuff which cost ~€300 excluding the HDDs.
not that cheap, but was fun to build.

>>59692849
>Middle school

Not a yank m8

Is it worth getting a Xeon E3-12X5 with an iGPU for a Plex media server? I've got five tablets and four smartphones I want to stream movies to and I've heard CPU transcoding isn't efficient enough for more than four 1080p streams

So what can I do with a home server?

Store and access files obviously. And stream those files to different devices, too.

Any other cool uses?

>>59693450
are you planning on streaming to all 4 devices at the same time?

Thinking about building a NAS/seedbox in the near future. Would upgrading the SSD in my main computer to NVMe and installing Infiniband or direct attach copper cards for transferring large files/monthly backups be a waste of money?

>>59693510
Yes.

>>59693491
Gateway, UTM, VPN, FTP, email, OpenSSH/PuTTy, DNS, Active Directory, SQL, render farm, seedbox, VM/VD, or an HTTP/web server

>>59693567
you honestly don't need SSD, but if you want you can get it. no real gain from it.

>>59693567
You're limited by your internet connection, so you'll only benefit from 1 GB/s connections within your own LAN, provided that both the upload and download machines are capable of reading/writing data at 1 GB/s.

>>59693428
whats the eurofag equivalent of middle school, attending mudslime weddings because all your female class mates are being married off?

>>59693621
The computers would be directly connected, with an internet connection on the server for torrenting.

>>59692854
For the sake of appearances. Literally.
Because good looking hardware is pleasing. Because keeping your shit organized is good for you. Because extra space is useful.

>>59693655
Then you're bottlenecked by the slowest storage medium on either end. It takes at least four HDDs in RAID0 or two SATA SSDs to reach 1 GB/s at peak.

>>59693696
the space is not an issue, everything is where it should be, and putting a rack in will do nothing that effect performance.

>>59692869
Me again, when i finally do the whole rebuild/archive backup drive deal it's going to be a real pain in the ass not to mention expensive. Several new 4TB drives for the server, 1 8TB drive for archive purpose, plus I plan to clean up my data. Do a whole folder restructuring job while I'm at it before I run the master backup. But at the end of the day it'll be well worth it. Everything will be good as new for a few more years and my existing data will be well protected. Client Data -> Server -> Primary Backup -> Archive Backup (Last Line of defense)

>>59693491
BOINC

>>59693628
It's called going to primary school or secondary school, also UK isn't euro anymore, article 50 triggered, on the way out burgerman

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>Just setup my home server
>Haven't used HDD's in my main rig for years
>Oh yeah they make noise

Well fuck me where I was gonna put it isn't gonna work

Do you need to buy a dedicated server or can you just make one out of a full tower case?

>>59694455
you can use any computer! that's what I do

cool thread. I need to setup a home server to run deamons and a email service.

what more is there to a server other than a computer that runs all the time?
Any tips for a noob?

>>59694547
Backups!. Raid is good and all but don't use it alone. You'll only wind up getting screwed when one day you go to play some vids and they all got playback errors when you know that at one time they were all fine. Then you have to spend time re ripping them all. If you got backups all you gotta do is restore them and be on your way in far less time. I've found this out the hard way. Also having a UPS to shut down the server in times of power failure would be a good idea to.

>>59694547
Its a computer that runs all the time to do something supporting other computers.

For use at home, figure out how much hardware power you about need to run a linux or bsd and then just buy or design a low power box accordingly.

>>59693585
>Active Directory
Ahh shit, that'd be cool to have.

>>59694547
It don't need high end parts. Make sure that whatever case you use has enough drive bays for current needs plus extra for growth. NAS drives are the only drives for server use. Regular desktop drives are not designed for 24/7 usage or for raid configurations. Plus Nas drives have a longer warranty (3-5yrs) v.s (2 yrs reg desktop). If you have a lot of data your storage requirements will be your core expense cause it's not just for your server storage needs but also for your server backup as well. So for ex you got 9TB of data you need 9tb total drive space + 9TB of backup space to.

Just threw one together with a business class HP tower I got for free. Just picked up two two 3 TB drives and set them up as a Samba share in RAID1. I don't really have an insane amount of things to store. I've been running Alpine on it just to check it out. Sub 100MB RAM usage most of the time although sometimes BusyBox leaves out some command options I use occasionally.

The most interesting thing I've done is set up a pseudo SMTP server on it. I got a huge all in one printer that was getting thrown out, but it only scans to email. It's just a python script that catches the email, strips the attachment and dumps it to a folder on the share.

I've been meaning to set it up so I can point mpd to it.

>>59694849
>It don't need high end parts
This. I've got a Pentium N3700 pulling triple duty as an rsync, SSH, and VPN server. It doesn't skip a beat.

>>59694849
Growth potential is mainly for storage boxes where your hoarding instinct will make it grow anyhow, but to allow this you generally need to buy somewhat more expensive parts (case, mainboard, psu etc) up front.

If you dont need much storage or are going to expand the cloud way you can avoid or defer that expense and just buy a humble small htpc / diy / prepared home nas type storage box at the cost of maybe just a bigger mainboard&psu. Its an alternative to consider.

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Having lots of data is nice and all (I've got like a shit ton of vids, mostly tv shows and whatnot) but keep in mind your backup/restore times. Yes incremental backups don't take long if you do it over time, ex start with 1TB full backup then 1.5TB Inc, 2TB Inc, etc. But say you wind up with 10TB total and your server shits itself (total drive failure, raid rebuild is not an option). Your talking at least a week to do a total restore not taking into account the time to get the server back into service. You quickly realize that GB Ethernet is becoming a bottleneck least when it comes to pushing large data transfers. (Especially when your internal drives have the capacity to do Sata II (3GBs) or Sata III (6GBs). Yes a week is a far cry compared to spending months re ripping movies but still time is money (or so the saying goes)

>>59694849
>NAS drives are the only drives for server use
NAS drives are shit and have an order of magnitude worse unrecoverable errors compared to actual enterprise class disks.

https://www.wdc.com/content/dam/wdc/website/downloadable_assets/eng/spec_data_sheet/2879-800002.pdf

https://www.hgst.com/sites/default/files/resources/US7K4000_ds.pdf

>>59695133
What about partitioning striped/parity disks and doing staggered scheduled back ups of each partition? So let's say that you have multiple 10TB HDDs in a 30TB RAIDZ1 array, there would be 3 10TB partitions you could schedule for back ups at a time rather than attempting to back up the whole disk at once?

And what affect will having an SSD write-through cache for an array have on back-ups?

>>59695206
>SSD write-through cache
You dont understand what write-through means do you?

>>59695243
>Write-through cache is good for applications that write and then re-read data frequently as data is stored in cache and results in low read latency.
Write once, read many
Works best with SMR drives

>>59695288
>Write once, read many
Thats not what write-through is, that would be WORM, and SSDs are not WORM media.

Hey guys, looking for soho servers, was thinking about the power edge 330 from Dell. It has to be manufacturer for warranty, just trying to find something small for AD for maybe 100 users. Any ideas?

>>59695373
>small for AD for maybe 100 users
A VM with 1 core and 1GB RAM.

>>59695348
>http://searchsolidstatestorage.techtarget.com/tip/Problems-with-using-SSDs-for-write-caching-and-how-to-avoid-them
SSDs can be whatever you need them to be. Just because they're better utilized as write-back for outright speed doesn't mean that there aren't other ways you can use them.

>>59695459
>http://searchsolidstatestorage.techtarget.com/tip/Problems-with-using-SSDs-for-write-caching-and-how-to-avoid-them
Your article is retarded and is written by a boomer with a background in marketing who clearly has no idea what he is talking about:

http://www.techtarget.com/contributor/Marc-Staimer

>Just because they're better utilized as write-back for outright speed doesn't mean that there aren't other ways you can use them.
Keep on pretending to be retarded anon

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>>59695538
Wow, you sure showed me

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I recently upgraded my server with a newer board and a quadcore Xeon

Still runs Proxmox, handling my email, owncloud and file services

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>>59695757
...and today I threw the old board into this lovely thing.

Dunno yet what I'm gonna do with this. Maybe backups? Seems a bit of a waste of a server though

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>>59691139
I'm partial to Dell, but I may add an HP to my collection.

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My networking cabinet

contents:
ADSL modem
HP Thin client running pfSense
Zyxel 16-port gigabit switch

>>59692325
>server
>uptime 6 days

LMAOI

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hp gen 8
poweredge 2950 & 2650
cisco & dell FE switch
ssl-vpn

No real use for anything but one of the switches and the gen8, mostly play around with OS's in exsi with the rest and learn about routing/vlans

>>59695391
Is that really all you need for AD? I'm sorry, I haven't used it much, just prepping for a competition where I may need to know pricing and specs for servers

You guys ever used object storage on your servers?
I read about it... Seems like a good idea.

Speed isn't really a concern for me. Just expandability.

>>59696741
Are those fucking Poweredge 1950 III's?

those fuckers are old

>>59696914
>poweredge 2950 & 2650

They still ancient as fuck though, 2950 is 775 socket 2650 has an ati rage card, that tells you how old it is.

No pic but my setup is mostly confined a corner of my basement. Cable WIFi/modem -> 8 port switch-> Server + 2 WDTV Lives + 2 Desktops, & a NAS. Wifi -> 1 laptop, 1 netbook, 1 tablet, 1 smartphone, & Samsung 65" smart TV

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>>59689513
>tfw both servers have dead PSUs
Now I'm down to using an SBC with Fast Ethernet for my external HDD because OS X can't into Btrfs

>>59692837
It's the same thing, in our case.

>>59692160
>>59692240
You shut your whore mouth

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ok so like i don't trust windows and never did. I want to dump all my data and files onto my other computer which i suppose will use a distro of linux and be my file server... my question is: where the fuck do i start? should i just install/setup ssh server and ftp? then just login via ssh or ftp to access my data? i suppose i should also install samba so windows can see the file server on the workgroup...

;_; please help me i really want to learn and understand the correct methods and guides and what not....

www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=2NS-000M-002U0

is it worth buying that for $299 (there's a coupon) if i want something primarily for storage/file sharing but also the occasional multi-hour simulation/code runs? i was hoping for a smaller footprint and something with HS HDDs, but for this price i don't think i would be able to get more than a similar CPU and motherboard. on the flip side, if i do decide to upgrade it i don't think i'd save anything other than the CPU since everything else seems to be cheap.

>>59697813
That's pretty much pmt what I did

>install linux (it was slackware back then)
>ssh naturally
>install samba

ftp isn't useful in my opinion, but samba is.

>>59697813
If you're looking to move away from Windows but are using it while you set up your Lincucks, I'd recommend using WinSCP to move your files over.

>>59697870
>>59697911
thanks, guys i really appreciate the info

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>>59694105
>uk not in Europe
8th Continent of the World everybody.

>>59693628
>US
>Non-white majority within the decade
>throwing shit at other countries

>>59697813
If you want redundancy, practicality, compatibility, and/or ease of use, you want a NAS OS with support for SMB.

The most popular option is FreeNAS because its free, or the proprietary solution of unRAID if you want to mix and match drives of different capacity.

can hot swappable drives be pulled out and re-inserted whenever you want?

>>59698052
>6 hours
>being this assblasted

>>59698130
this is subjective i will try to simplify: short answer = yes | if you basically havea file system without an actually ini or cfg for a specific os then you will be ok. if you want to hotswap a drive to another computer with different hardware specs, you will probably run into issues...

>>59696572
check
>>59692408

>>59692513
ew. "professional"

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How retarded of an idea is it to try to build something like pic related?

Seems all of the storage solutions available on the market are just ridiculously overpriced, I'm not spending a $1000 for an empty enclosure that can hold 4 HDDs.

Does anyone have that image on how to make you own server from old pc? It listed how to run ssh,ftp ecc.

>>59700918
this is retarded, but look at it from other side
you'll learn something new

>>59694105
>UK isn't euro anymore
I don't get what's with brits saying "out there in Europe". UK is part of Europe, you dummies, not a continent by itself.
I live in England and I always hear them saying that. ALWAYS!

>>59701040
fuck off eurotash, we don't want your shit here anymore

>>59701040
Oh dear, you are out of the loop. Here's a funny-looking word for you to look up: "brexit." Here is another word for you to look up, "island."

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>>59700940
This is some next level autism

>>59700918
This is really fucking retarded, if you want to have a proper storage solution you probably want to use some kind of RAID, this shit won't be able to RAID.

pls rate my FreeNAS build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TbydwV

plan to use RAIDZ2, USB stick for the system drive

>>59701052
Typical brit right here. Brits don't want to do any hard physical labour, but they want immigrants out of the UK. Guess what, if we all get deported, it's you brits that need to go around working on greenhouses, cut grass, clean sewers and other hard physical work, 12 hours per day, at minimum wage.
I've talked with brits with some brain left in their heads, and they think the same. They think that if they get rid of foreigners, they're pretty much fucked, since the average brit only wants white collared work and woman stay at home and ask for benefits, while carrying 3 or more children.

Also, if you're going to deport me, get all of the fucking brits occupying Algarve, since every time I go there I pretty much only hear them talking.

>>59701097
European Union and Europe are different things, last time I checked. I think you need to go back to school. But wait, go to a school out of britland, since you only have 11 years of obligatory school, compared to the 12 years in other countries. Every single brit I talked to didn't learn about the industrial revolution, for example, which was a big part of England's history. I had that in school, and I'm from Portugal.

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>>59701120
>murkan wants to deport all mexicans

Wheres my orange juice? YEEEEE HAAAAAEWW FREEDON

>>59700918
a hotswap enclosure that holds 4 3.5'' drives and takes 3 5'25 bays costs about $100

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>>59701099
He was an enterprising lunatic. Had custom Touhou stickers printed for his machines.

I miss him

I get the feeling you guys don't deal in entry-level NAS very often, but would anyone mind handing out some insight for a newfag?
A local place has a sale running until tomorrow, with a Qnap TS-431P on sale for ~25% less than the average price found online. Would that be worth picking up? I've already got 4x2TB drives to fill it with. I don't really need it to do anything fancy, I mostly just want to access my movies and shit from any computer on the network, maybe run a Plex server. Space is at a premium in my place, so the small footprint is attractive, since I could just stick it on a back corner of my desk and forget about it.

>>59701107
>this shit won't be able to RAID
any block storage can be RAIDed. his latency would suck ass though

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>>59701099
sysadmins autism is beyond next level

>>59692240
>Debian
packages from the stone age

>>59701155
He's my idol.

>>59691397
put it in the basement

>>59701140
Kek'd

>>59700918
make a Ceph cluster of raspberry pis, each with a single drive

>>59691345
>ESXI
>not using based open source xen
its like you want to donate your processing power to the CIA

>>59698052
Still in Europe just not in the EU you muppet

>>59701276
They're still in the EU though. Leaving takes a while.

>>59701118
This will be dope shit man. What do you plan on using it for?

>>59700940
>>59701140
>>59701155
>tfw made something off photoshop out of boredom
>people calling you autistic for having a little fun

>>59701297
general purpose storage, DLNA, owncloud, seedbox etc...

>>59701144
Sounds good to me. Plex is pretty good at efficient transcoding. I'm replying a quad core Xeon e3 1220v3 i think and it handle about 5 1080p streams locally. If it is just you watching ut, you can get away with fairly low end hardware.

File sharing is even easier. As long as the mini supports gigabit ethernet it will be fine.

>>59701348
Nice one, I'm replying RAIDZ ATM and it's a dream, snapshots and other clever stuff is fun to explore with

>>59701118
I know its a meme but no ECC?

>>59701097
>implying Europe as a continent did not exist before the EU

>>59701446
ECC is expensive: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xHsQNN

>>59692298
>500w
Talking about 2x200w xeons or some shit?

>>59692592
I would walk around the apartment naked all day if I were alone but also prefer your setup

I have two raspberry pi servers, am I welcome here?

I like windows servers, just cause they work and cause I'm used to windows in general. but I'm not unaware of the sad fact that shit happens and files get damaged due to mostly hardware/power failure and that windows has really no way to combat this fact (before REFS/storage space came along any way). Now Stoage spaces/REFS is supposed to help address this but compared to other solutions it's slow and still when power fails your still screwed potentially. FreeNas is nice but again power failures is still cause for file/system damage. So really the only sure fire way to keep your data intact against both power and hardware failure is to make a master backup and store it offline unplugged and use it one time to do said backup. Keep it for the day when all other backups are lost or damaged. This way the drive (s) will last long time and will not suffer from power spikes/surges/loss. Your data will be safe. In this day and age when an external usb 3/esata enclosure is cheap and you can buy a single 8/10TB drive it makes a lot of since.

>>59701922
of course

>>59701155
>>59700940
ohooo god i fucking love these....

>>59701964
I use this method to. But my master is on a nas that's shut down. current backups are stored on a 3tb external drive.

>>59701964
i do incremental backups to s3. more reliable than a usb drive.

>>59701192
That work, without fail, and are great for a server.
For a desktop? Just run unstable or sid.

>>59701262
I tried using Xen, but it was acting up with pfSense, and ESXi is generally more stable.

>>59702379
>That work, without fail, and are great for a server.
that's nice.
in the real world, you end up using backports or compiling from source, because the feature you need is missing.

>>59702510
Eh, I don't usually need the latest and greatest feature set on my servers that run Debian. I just need them to work.

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Long time in the making. Let me know if you have any questions.

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>>59702696
>orange-pi connected to neighbor's wifi

>>59700940
why did the ((girl)) pee her self?

>>59701107
>a proper storage solution you probably want to use some kind of RAID

>RAID for storage and backup

enjoy your catastrophic data loss
Raid should only be used for performance

>>59701155
Do people in his network know about the autistic anime names in the machines?

>>59702967
WAT?

It's like you don't even know RAID 1, 0+1, 5, 6, 10... even exist...

>>59703066
RAID is not a back-up solution

>>59702967
>>59703066
>>59703072
>>59701107
As someone who has lost a massive archive I had (my controller shit the bed while moving from raid 5 to 6 because 'lol raid 5 rebuilds will fail because disk error!11!one!1'), listen to this man.

If you don't have two entirely unlinked copies of you're data. You are exactly one hardware failure away from not having your data.

>>59702967
>Raid should only be used for performance
or availability.

>>59702882
Her piss bottles were already full.

I just started building my server that has windows server 2016 essesntials. I set up a domain and active directory on it with my gaming desktop. This is my first server and i would like some ideas on what I could do.

>>59703151
>If you don't have two entirely unlinked copies of you're data. You are exactly one hardware failure away from not having your data.
This. In a way I honestly can't understand why people try so hard to get enterprise hardware, ECC and a lot of redundant drives for ZFS on a home server. All that really does in the end is provide you with better availability and some safety against individual drive failure. But if something else fails, like some catastrophic PSU failure, your data can disappear just as easily as it does with no ZFS/RAID at all. Same goes for potential software errors, user errors or malware, all can nuke your data.

If your shit isn't saved in some other place, physically away (and preferably offline) from your main server, it's not really safe. This is a very expensive option of course, in addition to some minimal redundancy on your live machine you also need to at least double up on storage space for the offline copy. Not cheap for a home user.

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any tips on cable management?

>>59704016
I use different colored patch cables for different LANs
>black for anything connected to the gateway server
>blue for the default LAN
>red for management/IPMI LAN
>green for NAS
>fiber for 10Gb backbone
Before connecting and managing them, I always put labels on both ends of the cables so I don't lose track of what wire goes where. I use cheap 5 cent mini airplane luggage tags I bought from Amazon and use small zipties to tie them to each cable. I also cut two silicone washers and hotglue them in place around about an inch away from the terminations and 1/4 of an inch apart to keep the zipties from sliding down the cable.
I've made 1/2 deep cuts on packing foam every 1/4 inch as cable combs. I try to avoid layering too many cables on top of each other in case I have to remove one at a later date. Velcro ties are much better than zipties for the same reason.

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Why am I getting bad read/write performance? I have my serve set up for optimal air cooling but my drives still get bad performance. Pic related its my server

>>59705038
>not all screens are on
>angle of hanging cases is all wrong
>no tinfoil/space blankets anywhere
do you even know anything about computers?

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>>59689513
No pictures of my equipment. I have a couple 1U Dells that are too loud and too old to justify using anymore so I use this old Thinkpad, does everything I need. This lives off the DMZ of my Fortigate.

>>59704223
>I use different colored patch cables for different LANs
That's actually a really good idea.

Yeah storage can get expensive after a while. If all you got is 1TB of core data then it ain't real bad, four 1TB drives @ $50-60 a pop isn't bank breaking. (2 in Raid-1) (2 for separate backup disks) But multiply that out to 7-8-10TB of core data that you cannot replace or it'd take months/years to reproduce then can turn ugly from a cost and management point. And it only gets worse as you expand and expand.

>>59690149
As an Odroid XU4 user, I'm interested.

Actual setup
>ISP provided router
> ASUS RT-AC1200G+
>Odroid XU4 15GB EMMC
>Toshiba 3TB
>Samsung Oldasfuck 500GB

It is my 1st one, so I went Debian 8. Actually a NAS/Seedbox. I'm learning to transmission and to handle debian because I'm a dense learner. Also, I would like to ask.

>If you torrent, makes sense to setup iptables since it will cut you off connections?

>>59705975
I know what you mean. I've got like 7.5TB right now that I know mostly cannot be replaced. The rest would take months to redo (ripped cds/dvds) so fuck that my time is more valuable. I already spent it once doing it. I don't wanna repeat it again. To prevent such massive data loss I plan to have least 3 copies of data. 1 being on my server, 1 being on a shutdown backup device, 1 being stored on external drive (thank god for 8TB drives) which will be kept outside the house (maybe locked in my desk at work, we'll see)

>>59703151
What's the best (and by best I mean cheapest) solution for online backup?

I have around 5TB of data I need to back up. All my important stuff (docs, pics, etc.) is backed up already but I'd like to get my media so I don't have to rip/dl/pirate it all again if I have a failure.

>>59706319
A cheap raid-in-a-box and rsync

>>59706319
incremental backup to backblaze b2

>>59706382
Any reason not to use regular backblaze? Will they get mad if I try to upload 5TB or something?

>>59706422
use the regular backblaze if all your data is on a desktop windows or mac pc and you're not paranoid about encryption

What would I use (linux) to get graphs of my in/out traffic from my server?

it's a seedbox and I was thinking it'd be fun/interesting to watch the MBs uploaded and downloaded.

>>59706709
munin

>>59706709
netdata

>>59706730
>munin
thanks m8!

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posting best server

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>>59706785
and his friend

>>59706785
>"""""server"""""
>uptime 11m

wewlad, kys

>>59706822
none of that

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uptime?

>>59706951
what does it do? nameserver?

>>59701140
I must admit that looks cozy. If I was into some cutesy-putesy stuff and could do something like this, I'd be pretty happy

Not sure about the dragon statue on the right

>>59707003
xen host

>>59706090
bumping for the question.

>If you torrent, makes sense to setup iptables since it will cut you off connections?

>>59707112
unused I assume?

>>59707122
I don't understand the question

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>>59704016

No matter how shit your cable management is, if you document EVERYTHING, it will be way easier to debug later. And you don't need to run to the server if you forgot and need to know what port is connected to what.

I want to buy more network interfaces for my PC to turn it into a server. It has 1 free PCIe x16 slot. Can someone recommend me what to buy?

>>59706785
>>59706809
I literally see you in every thread. You have previously mentioned that you turn off your servers when you aren't using them, which doesn't make them servers.

>>59707676
I will like to set up some iptables rules for just Samba, SSH, Transmission Port and Torrenting. but people connects to random ports unless I'm missing something, openning all ports thourgh iptables would not be the same than no having iptables at all?

Because if I don't open all ports I will be losing connections and therefore speed due to less peers. Am I missing something?

>>59706319
Honestly, I think two different computers (on different breakers) with several large HDDs and you rsync one to the other daily is probably the best.

I tried to get fancy and have a big raid 6 array in my main machine, and then another computer with another raid 6 array in it. Both are using btrfs for raid (take it from me kids, don't use hardware contollers) and they're synced via seafile.

Of course, seafile doesn't just store your files, it puts them into chunks and keeps track of what is where using a mysql database, which you better hope you have if you want your files. And, I had planned to use btrfs to make incremental backups I could go back to if something happened, but I've so far been unable to [spoiler] I think I might be retarded send help [/spoiler]. If anyone has any suggestions that I would appreciate it.

>>59707761
>You have previously mentioned that you turn off your servers when you aren't using them, which doesn't make them servers
Blatantly false. It's not a requirement to always be running to be a server, they're merely normally kept running.

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tfw HP proprietary motherboard and case, it's a fucking mess. I will probably have to build a custom case

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I'm new to running a linux server, I have a few questions:

1. I'm using my server as a seedbox basically, because I share to a windows computer too, does it hurt that I have chmod 777'd all my shared folders? The only port I have forwarded is for qbittorrent. Nobody can get in, right?

2. How can I ssh into my server and run programs locally? I want to control qbittorrent through ssh but it only opens me a session and whenever I terminate the ssh connection it shuts down whatever I opened. now I have to use the qbittorrent web interface which is fine but I'm wondering is there a way to use ssh like a VNC?

>>59707761
i just don't need them and electricity costs
also this>>59707827

>>59707753

Can someone give me an answer? FeelsBadMan

>>59707753
>go ebay
>look for 'intel 4-port nic'

Why do you need more ports though?

>>59707910
1. probably doesn't unless you have guest logins allowed
2. use screen

>>59708180
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA6CC56A8592

>>59707910
>>59708225

tmux is also nice, and you can actually google for information about it.
Try getting any kind of useful information from googling "screen"

>>59708359
try googling man screen

>>59707775
>>59707122
Little bump

>>59708359
You could just do the usual

apt-get install screen

>>59708359
screen ships with a manual and (often) source

you shouldn't be using google

what is the point of a home server like that, what do you guys use it for.
Ive been thinking about getting one but i only know about gaming pc:(

>>59700918
Beyond retarded.
But I would love to see it work if you go ahead with it anyway

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>>59704016
V E L C R O
E
L
C
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I run a laptop-turned GNU/linux server running Trisquel with Nginx

Someone post the cap of that one anon with his fucking NOC.

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>>59707122
>>59707775
Nope, set incoming port(s) to a range of your choice. They will only connect to that port.
Don't randomize incoming ports.
Randomizing outgoing ports is acceptable, but you will need to set up a specific rule for that.

>>59706090
>>59690149
Should be possible. Be prepared for some hacking to get it to work
https://twitter.com/gonzopancho/status/735704319874371584

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Sup, nerds!

>>59709511
hehe cute

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>>59709499
I'm more worried about the throughput of the ux4, pi chokes at around 30mb/s and occasionally locks up

>>59709499
You mean in the transmission options? Because I'm a little derp in networking and I'm having a hard time with the ports.

Following my "logic", I announce my torrents on the port I set up, liets say 53912, then people connect me at ports on my machine related to that request, so if I close input ports on purpose (let's say I just open from 60000-61000), people who reply on or use ports outside of that range, won't be able to connect with me. Am I right? If not, I would like to learn, please.

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>>59709538
Lol, thanks, desu~~`~`~

>>59709546
The pi also has a 100Mbit NIC while XU4 has 1Gbit.
Can't tell you how good it will work, best is to just try.
>>59709569
Transmission listens on incoming connections on 53912 and not on other ports
Others will connect to that port only, so it's safe to close down everything else

>>59709595
So if I set him to listen on a wide range of ports, I will get more connections? Or it is irrelevant? I still don't know why if you search "ports and torrent" you got "open more ports to speed it up" which I don't want to believe at blind sight.

The fact (for adding a little more info) it is that the other day (after a reinstall) I remember that I didn't reactivated my rules, so when I did (I had a stretch range oppened on iptables) my connection went down from 10-12MB to 1-0.5. That's why I'm trying to learn how it works.

>>59709650
Irrelevant. 1 port is fine.

The reason why speeds slowed to a crawl was (probably) because:
Transmission doesn't receive connections from others, but can make them to others.
So it has to find seeders and leechers on itself
Instead of having BOTH others connecting to Transmission and it looking for others to connect to.

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I have ESXi on an old AMD machine but I never turn it on anymore because of the sound and heat it makes. Thinking about getting a gen 7 i5 or i7 NUC when it comes out. Anybody run a NUC server or are they just a horrible meme?

>>59709737
So, if I'm following you right, that means that past an amount of ports opened, I will get no better performance?

>>59709746
NUCC

>>59709746
You'll have to mod some breathing holes on the top and right side panel (from the rear I/O port). Otherwise, it overheats kinda quickly under moderate load.

>>59709758
>1 port open
>can max out a 150/15 Mbps with well populated torrents
1 port.

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Does anyone run a asterix system?
I want to do pic related.
Where do I learn how to?

>>59692592
What's wrong with walking around naked?

>>59709824
Then it is not a port issue, it should be how am I definning my iptables.

If this is the case (I think pretty much is thanks to your help) I would like ask, what the behaviour of a iptables rule without the -m option. I know-m is matching but I really didn't fin anything searching online. So, if you don't mind, what's the difference between this two rules.

iptables -I INPUT 13 -p tcp --dport 52912 -j ACCEPT
iptables -I INPUT 13 -p tcp --dport 52912 -m conntrack --ctstate NEW,RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT

iptables -I OUTPUT 13 -p tcp --sport 52912 -j ACCEPT
iptables -I OUTPUT 13 -p tcp --sport 52912 -m conntrack --ctstate NEW,RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT

Chains would be just INPUT, FORDWARD, OUTPUT with policy DROP. They're not real rules, I use an example of what I've been using.

AMD Sempron 2650, AM1, Kabini, Dual Core, 1.45GHz Clock, 2MB Cache, 25W
would this cpu be good enough for a low power file server?

>>59709930
>I use an example of what I've been using.
It is an example of what I've been using. FFS

>>59709954
With just one 1Gb connection? Yes. With two simulatenous fully saturated connections, yes but both will throttle down to about 700Mb each. Any more and you'll get slightly lower transfer speeds

>>59710015
many connections but all the files stored are less than 1gb and will be accessed infrequently.

>>59710117
Sempron will do fine.

>>59710129
ty anon

>>59701446
>Using ECC with ZFS is a meme

Son, you might be retarded.

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>>59708371
>implying the botnet doesn't know

>>59709954

the only situation I think you'd need processing power in a home server is if you're going to have a media server and do transcoding on the fly

>>59710273
http://jrs-s.net/2015/02/03/will-zfs-and-non-ecc-ram-kill-your-data/
Although, I'd still put ECC in my home server.

>>59701118
You can use AMD hardware if you want to take advantage of ECC on the cheap. It's not smart to use ZFS without ECC.

My web cache proxy and DNS caching server an hero'd the other night due to an unexpected SATA-to-Molex adapter fire.

I need to buy a brand new motherboard and CPU. Any recommendations? There are up to 15 users on the network and I think we're hitting about 6 Gb a day in bandwidth usage (mostly from downloading and streaming)

>>59693975
>helping people

>>59709930
>>59709824
If the fellow anon who was helping me is still there, I would like to know this last thing before keep researching. Thanks in advance.

>>59710429
Maybe try out Ryzen 5 when it comes out, maybe 3. If the price is right and whatever you're using is optimized for extra threads it could work very well. Also ECC support.

>>59710811
>ECC support
Where? I have yet to see an AM4 motherboard with ECC support

>>59710831
I haven't looked into it too much, but I know for sure the arch supports ECC. I guess boards with ECC support will trickle into the market, or maybe introduce ECC support with updates. This article says that there's basically pseudo-ECC support as of now:

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/75030-ecc-memory-amds-ryzen-deep-dive.html

>>59695880
>but I may add an HP to my collection.
don't, hp charges for their remote management stuff, dell's is free

>>59692494
>not using dnf

Might as well try submitting this for consideration by the /g/niuses.

So I have an old Inspiron 910 my dad got me for Christmas (pic related). I managed to break it back in high school when I was a shitty teenager and too stupid to know enough Linux to fix it. It got lost for years, but a few days ago I dug it up and stuck Debian Jessie Standard on it. Grub wouldn't install without Internet for some reason, and since I'm not cleared for direct ethernet access, and only own one USB drive -- the one I had the installer on, and it refuses to support more than one partition for some reason -- I had to jump through some hoops to get the bcm43xx firmware on there to get Internet access to properly install Grub -- and then I had to do the whole thing again, because the installer apparently doesn't clone /lib/firmware -- but once all that was taken care of, it worked pretty well.

The hard drive is only 4GB. Even as minimal as Debian Standard is, it takes up almost half the fucking drive -- that's how small 4GB is. I already have a great laptop, so I'm going to try to use this ancient piece of shit as a webserver -- but due to the severe limitations of my hard drive, I really don't think a database for web application use will reliably fit on it.

The flash drive I used for the install was 128GB. I'm shit at PR, so if I can anticipate that my web apps might develop a small following, but not become popular outside it, then I think 128GB should be enough. Therefore, I would like to move my SQL data directory onto my flash drive. However, when I tried this -- and updated all relevant config files, as far as I know -- I ran into a handful of problems.
1) MySQL wouldn't recognize the correct root password. I don't know how it got changed, but I changed it back using an init script.
2) Once it was changed back, MySQL successfully authenticated me, but then the shell wouldn't start because it couldn't connect to '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock.' Reinstalling didn't fix.
wat do

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>>59712337
>(pic related)
oops

>>59712337
Is there any reason why you have to keep it exactly like it was? You can probably get a 120GB drive for almost nothing nowadays. Like I've literally picked some out of the trash and gotten at least a year out of them.

A USB WiFi card is like $8 so you don't have to jump through firmware hoops.

You could go for an even more minimal install like Alpine or something. The base install is like 150MB.

>>59711350
ilo codes are on the internet, and you can keep re-using the free trial for the storage array code so you just put it on a script to run every 59 days and call it quits

>>59712770
Thanks for the advice.
I decided, fuck it all, I'm dd-ing the liveCD to my hard drive and installing the full OS on my USB.

>>59701460
EU invented europe

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Hello I just got done setting up OpenVPN on my PfSense box but now I cant watch any of my Netflix content. I was reading up and saw that I can't use my VPN because Netflix blocks anyone using a VPN. I just want to set a rule to push all traffic going to Netflix through my ISP. I have tried 2 list that I found online but I still get blocked. Does anyone here have a good list I can use or a better solution. I mean it would be nice if Netflix just publicized there list of IP if they are going to go out and block VPN users. That way they could just go in and fix this themselves but they don't and make this hard for the end user.

pic related its my lan rules and part of my Netflix Aliases.

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>>59713622
>liveCD on hard drive
>full OS on USB
KEK

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>>59689579
can i get into mordor?

Daemons running:
Docker
Firewalld
OpenVPN
NGinX
Containers running:
Znc
Headphones
Vnc server
Transmission
Plex
Minecraft
Couchpotato

Vm's
Windows 7 with VGA X2 passthrough. For gaming on the network.
Debian for devops
CentOS for testing
Windows Server 2012 R2 for studies

I like my comfy setup. All running from my old rig. FX8350 16Gb ram and crossfire 7970Ghz.
Having acces to all my shit from anywhere has really positively impacted my productivity

>>59713751
Please tell me that is not a spanned volume...

>>59689513
Recommend me a new case so I can slim up my closet server. I want to keep my mATX mobo and CPU because they're old, but rock-solid. Main goal is to get smaller while still keeping room for at least two HDDs and an optical drive.

I know that slim mATX cases exist. I just want to see /g/'s recommendations or experiences as I browse on my own.

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>>59713890
not a local device

>>59689513
Haven't updated this image in a while. Took new images and what not.

>>59714250
Why do you run DE's on your servers?

>>59714307
I'm lazy and prefer to configure them through RDP and RAM is cheap.

>>59714326
>RDP on linux
Oh man that's stupid.
VNC not good enough for you?

>>59714345
RDP works just fine.

>>59714345
Unless you run it through an SSH tunnel, VNC has massive security flaws. I don't know about RDP,, but pretty much anything is a better alternative to VNC

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What do i need to do to get started at setupping a home server

>>59714376
Of course you would run vnc to supplement ssh. This way you don't need to run X.org.

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>>59700940
what the fuck am i looking at? what is the point of having multiple machines running such low specs like lucifer and satan, etc... are these machines for redundancy?

>>59701140
I miss the one kid who bought the huge rack he couldn't fit into his house - he didn't even have the 3phase power for it all iirc

>>59714433
A little bit of time, a spare computer, and a lot of autism.

>>59707910
fork the process from the terminal by using & at the end of the command but i do not know how qbittorrent handles that. or you could run transmission or anything that lets you daemonize the program.

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guys I have a poe phone that I don't want someone to disconnect and plug a computer into to get access to the network. should I get a poe managed switch to prevent this?

>>59713876
how do i into this stuff?

Anyone running extremely low powered shit? My landlord is becoming anal about the electricity bills and I have to abandon my current home server (2x Xeon E5450)

Deciding if I should bite the bullet with a C2750..since im doing VM and samba and appservers

what's a good rackmount case for EATX? I'm going to be putting my desktop's guts into my rack for exclusively remote usage only
it's got 2 h60's in it, so it's kind of limited to that rosewill 4u one

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>>59714733
>buy used UPS ($50)
>figure the batteries are going to be bad anyway, and it'd be better to get fresh new batteries
>test out batteries
>entire 48v pack reads as 13v
>decide to plug it in to see if it will at least run
>it's got some strange circular plug I've never seen before
>model range includes 120v and 240v models
>can't tell if it's 120v and 240v
>ghetto rig adapter to plug into wall
>only light that comes on is for service failure

>>59701155
all my machines have silly meme names and I mapped them all in a shitty libreoffice draw document

>>59706319

seconding this >>59706382
I only have a few GB of actual important data anyway, it's all burned to disks every week

>>59707761
>which doesn't make them servers.
that's literally why wake on LAN exists

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>>59715745
If it's a huge circular plug it's 240v. Does it look like this?

>>59710343
ECC ddr3 is plentiful and cheap
used enterprise hardware that uses ecc ddr3 is the same
there's really no reason not to have ecc

>>59715795
it looks like that, but the plug has "125V 30A" printed on it
I don't have it near me so I can't get a picture of it

Other than tasks that you really want to run locally, like file storage, what is the purpose of cumbersome home servers?
You can rent a low-end VPS for like $5

>>59692555
>general use
>guests
>honeypot
>cp machine/TOR-at-router-level

>>59715795
what is this unholy beast?

>>59715813
In that case you need to run it on 120V but on a separate breaker, thats where the 30A parts comes in. Try to pull 30A through a breaker that has a bunch of stuff on it and you will blow shit up at worse, or trip the breaker at best. If you want to run some wire for a separate breaker for the plug you can get an appropriate wall socket for a few bucks online. Then again if it's too much work I'd just get another UPS, but most higher end stuff will have weird plugs
>>59715832
The plug is a locking style connector to prevent it to come off, which makes sense for a UPS. It's robust and very unlikely to come off accidentally.