/spg/ - Smartphone General - April 1st edition

First for #Diversity

Xiaomi's phones look so nice. I really want to get one but I'm worried about English and long term support on them. Do they get OTA updates often? Also do they work on US carriers out of the box?

Any phones these days which are any different from the standard black touchscreen slab?

Blackberry makes pretty much the only interesting designs these days imo

>>59674668
>Also do they work on US carriers out of the box?
Not really.
Also buggy af OS.

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>http://gizmodo.com/amazons-banning-cheap-unsafe-usb-c-cables-1767928156
how safe is the cable that comes with xiaomeme phones?

>>59674880
Safer than random Amazon ones, nothing to fear from official ones

>>59674670
Fuckin KeyONE delayed until May, anon.

We fukked.

>>59674668
Chinese phones tend to have limited support for US LTE bands. They usually will simply not work at all for Verizon/Sprint since those carriers use CDMA and most chinkphones are GSM only.

If you're using AT&T you want bands 2, 4, 5, 17. You could probably get away with just having 4 and 17 though.

If you're on T-Mobile you want bands 2, 4, 12. 4 being the most important and 12 being important for bigger cities and faster speeds.

The only Xiaomi phone that supports these frequencies is the Mi Note 2.
http://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_note_2-8014.php

You can get other models which just support band 4, which will have limited but usable support for LTE. But it won't be ideal. Most Xiaomi phones dont support band 4 and thus you will not get any LTE service on the device in the US.

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Daily reminder if you don't buy a chinkphone you are a supporter of the jews

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>bricked my Zuk Z2

Hold me guys.

>>59675168
Nice try Xiaomishit shill.

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>>59675191
at least i think it's bricked. stuck on ZUK logo for 10 minutes. can restart into recovery or fastboot but won't launch the OS.

>>59675290
https://zukfans.eu/community/threads/deep-flash-revive-your-zuk-z2-from-hard-brick-state-9008-mode-easily.3504/

https://zukfans.eu/community/threads/solved-stuck-with-twrp-and-fastboot-only-only-twrp-recovery-accessible.5645/

>>59675004
>GSM only
More like MSG amiright?

>>59675653
>>>/r/eddit

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Why is it that Lineage officially supports meme phones like pic related but can't support officially actually popular phones like the Xiaomi Redmi Note 4, the Zuk Z2, the Pixlel phones or the Galaxy S6 (yes it's an Exynos, but there is only one phone for the whole world, how hard can it be when there are tens of millions of users). It doesn't make any sense.

>>59675723
It depends if the kernel sources and drivers are available. Samsung is notoriously hostile to developers (especially with Exynos devices) and refuses to release the required information to port custom ROMs to the S6.

Stuff like the Pixel should have unofficial lineageos already and official should just be a matter of time. The other two will depend on if the manufacturer is releasing the required information to create the port.

>>59674157
>Xiaomi Mi 6
Is that thing legit? Because I would be very disappointed if it was just an April fool.

>>59675723
Exynos are some of the worst CPUs to make roms for. You don't have drivers for anything or nearly anything, and when you do they mostly don't work, so you have to rewrite your own. Even if it's only one phone, it's a colossal endeavor when you don't have the source at all.

More about that: https://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-exynos-and-aosp-explained-a-story-of-betrayal/

>>59675824
pic might be mi mix lite or something if it's real. mi 6 will probably be a more conventional looking phone

just ordered a zuk z2 pro. sold my oneplusone so this will be a nice upgrade. did i do good?

>KEYone delayed

Fucking Samsung Reeeeee

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I just preordered a Galaxy S8 Plus as an upgrade from Nexus 6 (2014). N6 was feeling kinda sluggish since it update to 7.0. AT&T got them on display today and it was pretty sexy. They tried to sell me the wireless charger for $69 but I found it on eBay for $8 lol. It also came with the new VR as a preorder bonus. Might be cool.

How much of an upgrade will this be from my N6?

why are people buying samsung flagships in the current year

Why do I always have the urge to buy the latest flagships when in fact a mid tier phone is perfectly capable of delivering what I require?

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>>59674157
Is it good /g/?

>>59676603
Because Samsung owna like 95% of the mobile OLED market. Do you like shitty screens or something?

>>59676515
>N6 was feeling kinda sluggish since it update to 7.0
When will they learn? It's Android, it was always sluggish, the lag was always there, and you either don't get updates at all or they turn your phone into a potato. And for some reason you guys expect it to change.

My 5s is still as fast as ever on 10.3.

>>59676515
>They tried to sell me the wireless charger for $69 but I found it on eBay for $8
Your phone's going to explode, I guarantee it

>>59676755
>it was always sluggish, the lag was always there

Except it wasn't always sluggish.

>>59676737
{{no.no}}

>>59676515

>They tried to sell me the wireless charger for $69 but I found it on eBay for $8 lol.

Please don't blame Samsung if you're dealing with battery issues or it ends up exploding

>>59676837
I was talking about Android in general, since even the flagship devices of every generation stutter here and there.

I dunno man, the only real advantage of Android for me was the ease of rooting and system-wide adblocking, maybe the openness of the FS as well if it's your cup of tea.

Other than that, the functionality is identical, and your device gets all the updates for 3+ years.

>>59676734
Cause you're a consumerist whore

>>59676737
no

wait for KEYone

>>59676515
>>59676515
>N6 was feeling kinda sluggish since it update to 7.0. AT&T
It's pretty normal since this comes with the CIA botnet

God I cannot wait to sell my piece of shit iPhone 7+ 256GB phone for a fucking Pixel 2. Jesus Christ I hate this piece of shit locked down piece of technology.

Why is Apple such shit?

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So i'm starting to get left behind on the mobile phone game.

Right now I have a BlackBerry Q10. It's a fantastic phone for texting, email and business. it's still pretty damn fast too. However the small screen is starting to annoy me. Also hardly any apps exist for it. I know I can sideload Android apps. The thing is that some of them work well and others don't. So I'd rather just upgrade to a phone where the apps are native.

This is where I'm not sure what to do. I've had Android phones before and they're okay. But i've always wondered what it would be like to have an iPhone. I've never owned an Apple product in my entire life and I've never been bothered by it. But a lot of my friends use iMessage and I feel so left out by not being able to use it too.

TL;DR: Should I upgrade to an Android phone or an iPhone? If Android, which one?

looking to upgrade from the Note 3.

I love this thing but the charging port is starting to get very picky on what angle the charging cord is used at.

I wish I could keep this thing forever, hell I might even buy another Note 3. I just can't get rid of this thing.

Well, last thread someone recommended the Pixel XL, but I heard it was shit, so whats the deal? I don't really use google's services and I don't want bloatware on my phone.

I also don't care for fingerprint scanner/face detection or waterproof shit, since I've literally never dropped anything ever of mine.

>>59677165
Well if you want to try an iphone they are known for having great resell value.

How long does gearbest usually take for processing orders? It's been a week and still processing.

I just want my zuk...

>>59677370
>gaybeast
Cancel and order from Ibuygou or banggood .

I wanted to get a device to browse the internet and listen to music/anime on the bus ride to class. I know you guys might be a little biased, but looking at my options, <$50, seems tablets have really dropped out of decent production and laptops around this are a joke, so was looking into getting a smartphone but without the dataplan and without the actual phone part.

>>59677681

not the best thing, but it could work. It has expandable memory so you can quickly load your stuff onto it.

https://www.amazon.com/BLU-Advance-5-0-Unlocked-Smartphone/dp/B018IZ0SWI/ref=sr_1_3?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1490995859&sr=1-3&keywords=blu+phone

Should I buy a nokia 6 /g/? looks bretty good bang for buck

>>59677638
Not him, but how long does bg take to process? I bought a Le Max 2 from them yesterday with a screen protector, and the protector has already shipped while the phone is still processing.

>>59674157
>http://www.gizchina.com/2017/03/31/xiaomi-mi-6-leaked-photos-appear-looks-beautiful/
>oh hey guys those pics aren't real but whatever!

Can we please start archiving articles? No need to give those shitfucks clicks.

>>59677847
if you want a 5.5" phone, sure

>>59677370
took me 13 days from order date until it reached my doorstep. i payed with a credit card and had to verify my identity before they dispatched the order. it took 5-6 days before the tracking number started working, then around 5 more days until the phone reached my country. then 2 more days to reach my house.

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Think it's worth upgrading my trusty old(well, ancient really) HTC Desire HD to Android 4.3.1 or something along those lines?

I love the little guy and I don't have any need to buy a new phone, but I thought it might be fun to get some extra functionality out of it. If only because almost no apps are supporting 2.3 these days. Even if I could easily run it.

It's rooted and running an old version of Cyanogenmod I installed a few years ago now.

Best way to install GApps/services/Play store etc?

I'm rooted if that helps.

>>59677638
Tried cancelling. They gave me a tracking number about 45 minutes after I sent the email.

The fuck?

>>59677964
http://opengapps.org/

>>59678005
Probably fake. check 17track.net

They'll say it's already shipped so you can't cancel.

>>59677847
w2c?

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>>59678005
The tracking number is for their international shipping firm Netherlands Post NL. Check the tracking number here (it should start with "R" I think): http://www.postnl.post/

If it says "pre-advised", then the package is on it's way to Netherlands Post's shipping chain and will be trackable there later.

PS: when my package said "dispatched", I actually got a picture of the package and the country code. Pic related.

>>59677035
Have you tried the Pixel phones? They're seriously fast and the touch latency work they did is no joke.

>>59678013
thanks lad. should i pick ARM or ARM64 if i'm on a Zuk Z2?

>>59676737
Slow piece of shit on top of being gimped by SD808, shitty keyboard compared to any other BlackBerrrys, build quality issues, unlocked version is GSM only, and no Nougat timeline/still on Marshmallow (does still get monthly security patches as soon as they're available however). Wait for the Keyone, even at $200-something I don't think you want the Priv.

>>59677681
Prepaid Moto G4 Play, $49.64 from Walmart
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Verizon-Moto-G-Play-Prepaid-Smartphone/53970798

If you could only choose between the standard moto g5 or a g4 plus, which one and why?
(Both with the same price, 2gb of ram and 32gb of storage)

>>59678480
having owned a G4 Plus, I'd go with the G5.

the G4+ got seriously hot when charging, and maybe it was just my unit, but the adaptive brightness was whack.

The G5 will get updates for longer (probably? hard to tell with Lenovo), and the fingerprint reader doesn't look as bad as that stranger square one on the G4 (plus it has gesture support). Also, it has removable battery and the 625 should give you pretty good battery life, though I never found the battery on the G4 to be that bad.

If I were you I'd spring for the 4GB version on either model if you can swing it.

>>59678533
OK, disregard the processor talk in my post, just found out the normal G5 doesn't have the 625

the other points should remain though

>>59678560
The 617 in the G4 was infamous for overheating. The base G5 has a Snapdragon 430, which isn't high end but it is cool and efficient and should be plenty fast for everyday use.

The fact that it won't have to throttle down from heat should mean better and more consistent performance as well.

>>59678560
>>59678585
Thanks lads!
Just a question, how sturdy is it? I currently have a dying moto g3 (rip headphone jack) and durability concerns me

Broke my BV5000 blackview phone.

searching for a rugged phone. Advice?

>>59677139
Why buy the most expensive iPhone if you're not even sure you'll like it?

What is the best phone to get on Verizon that isn't Verizon locked and isn't the Pixel?

New to Android. How do I un-botnet my phone?

>>59678881
Outside of the Pixel, you have the Nexus 6P, Moto X Pure, Moto G4, and Moto G5 Plus

So I'm running Superman ROM on my S7 Edge (I know, I fell for the edge meme, laugh at me) with superstock kernel.

Is there any other good stuff I can install to make my phone faster / improve battery life? I saw some mods and tweaks that claim to do that, but considering I have a debloated ROM, will I actually benefit from any of them? If so, any recommendations?

>>59678949
root and install Pajeet OS

>>59678949
>un-botnetting Android
kek

>>59677954
It's always better to update, damn you're really out of the security updates and all, how's it holding up?

>>59679014
that needs to be a thing. complete with a poo emoji with a dot on its forehead and a sacred cow.

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Anyone have any tutorials, information or downloadables on phone hacking and things correlating with how to find out specifics on entities hacking ones phone. Im looking for the most intensive information possible.

TL;DR

Phone hacking and reverse engineering.

>>59679014
Which one is Pajeet OS?

>>59679204
He probably meant Lineage OS.

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Used Galaxy S7 for $400 CAD or a new OnePlus 3T for $700 CAD?

>>59674157
Looking to upgrade from my old 2013 Moto X. Should I go Android or try an iPhone? And if Android which should I go for?

>>59679371
Also if I get an Android I'm looking for expandable storage and swapable battery. Also I'm looking for a good camera.

>>59674157
Guys, I need help. My Z1 Compact is dying one issue at a time, I'm on my 5th battery because 2 came pre-fucked and I'm starting to think that this replacement one is on the broken side too. Long story short: looking for a new phone.

Budget is 200-400€. Good developer support is a must, I don't wanna replace my phone for a while and I love custom ROMs.
I'd love something on the smaller side, but I've already went through compact options and I'd like to avoid both Sony and galaxy A5.
Please no AMOLED screens, I've developed a silly pokemon go habbit and the GUI will burn in in a matter of weeks. Screen doesn't need to be extremely high-res, I'd honestly rather avoid anything over FHD since it just seems pointless.
A good battery is a plus.
Low SAR ratings would be great too, but that's not really common criteria info so I can look into it myself.

My country is Slovenia, anything that generally works in Europe should be fine.

>>59679395
Moto G5 satisfies the swappable battery criteria... Not many phones do nowadays afaik tho

>>59679412
Nexus 5x or 6P, you can probably find them for that price

>>59678881
What >>59678954 said, also the moto G4/G4 plus, the upcoming BlackBerry Keyone, unlocked US variant of the LG G5, unlocked US variant of LG V20, unlocked US variant of Samsung S7, and the upcoming unlocked US variant LG G6. You can get them from B&H, Amazon, and (I think) Best Buy.

>>59679482
Honestly you'll never get updates if you get anything else than Pixel>>59678881

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>be on pay and go contract
>month runs out, have zero credit to pay for a new month
>still receiving 4G data

did I hack the system? I'm not contracted to my provider in any way and they can't bill me for this because they have no bank details and I have absolutely no credit to pay for this data

>>59679453
6P is an AMOLED so that's a no-go.. 5X seems promising, but it's been a year and a half since its release, makes me wonder how long it'll still be relevant hardware-wise.. I'll look at some benchmarks. Thanks for suggestions, still accepting ideas if anyone has more.

I need purchasing advice for my mom, she has a Galaxy Note 4 now and wants to stick with a phablet. She likes the S8+ but doesn't like the idea of leasing (TMobile) or the $850 price tag. What are your recommended large phones around $200 that isn't a laggy cheap feeling piece of shit? All she uses her phone for is Twitter so it doesn't have to have any cool features.

>>59679616
mi max

Getting a free v20

Should I sell or keep

>>59679626
I'm in the US btw, is it usable on TMobile out of the box?

>>59679559
Please don't frogpost

>>59679657
idk man I'm not american but I hear that if you want to own a phone there one of the great telecom giants need to specifically grant you the privilege of using one of their phones

seriously though check willmyphonework.net

>>59675168
howd that happen? Im still waiting for mine. Ordered on the 20th. Doubt i'll have it for another 3 weeks(free shipping + canada post = worst case scenario)

>>59679730
it was only soft-bricked. happened because i flashed an incompatible supersu with twrp. i reflashed the rom and did it all over again and it worked just fine. messing around with gapps right now.

>>59679670
Triggered there snowflake?

>>59679696
Found out it won't work on 4G here which pretty much means it doesn't work here

>>59679775
yea it's also 6.44" which is a bit bigger than your average phablet

>>59679554
True although BlackBerry has been very good about monthly android security updates, though they don't seem to care about platform updates so the Priv is still on Marshmallow. In a bizarre twist, the US unlocked S7 is actually getting fewer/slower updates than the carrier-cucked versions.

Any solution to Play Store crashing immediately when you open it? I flashed it with Open GApps and all the other apps work fine except Play Store. Tried wiping dalvik and cache, same issue.

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B&H Photo has the Xperia X for $270 shipped, is this any good? 5" 1080p, SD650, small battery though. Looks like a nice phone though.

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>>59679670

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>>59674157
I used kingroot time ago on my phone (more than one year), and while I've had some doubts for a while I've recently read stories about your data being used in shady-as-fuck shit and whatnot.

So, question: how fucked am I? I don't know how much of a botnet this app is, the Play Store has being notifying me of risks but of course I don't trust Google's opinion on botnets and rooting very much.

>>59679806
Force Stop then Clear the cache on Google Play Services

>>59679835
I wanted it, 650 is a solid hexacore

>>59679951
Follow this up with a reboot

>Still use an S3

Should I kill myself?

>>59679973
Yes.

>>59679929
There may be a way to remove it and replace it with SuperSU. Look into Super Sume.

>>59679951
>>59679964
Tried this now. Same result. Should I just try installing a new Play Store apk from apkmirror?

>>59679929
It apparently is a legit rooting app, but yes, it does store your data with some Chinese authority.

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Just got a G6, in just posting to see if the screenshots have curved corners or not.

>>59680030
Try reflashing your ROM and then flashing gapps immediately afterward, before rebooting. I think sometimes if you flash a ROM, reboot, and try to flash gapps later, it doesn't work.

My Xperia Z3 looks like is going to die soon, so I need to decide something new to get. Price is not an issue as long as it can last me at least 3 years. I live in UK right now, but soon I'll have to go in Japan and Italy for several months, so something that works with the networks there. Waterproof or not shouldn't be an issue, body must not be plastic. Physical keyboard is a huge plus, but not required. Also, high internal storage (at least 64gb) is a must, since the piece of shit I currently have has only 15gb of which only 300-400 mb free, for I have no idea what reason.

I was thinking to just get an iPhone at first, but Android's keyboard is leagues better

LG V20 or Galaxy S7?

Here's a tl;dr
I need a 5.7in or larger display on T-Mobile USA, that can run Twitter

>>59679616

>>59680258
Around $200

>>59680258
LeEco Le Max 2

>>59680336
Thanks senpai

Still thinking about going iPhone. Is there a 4chan app for iOS? Or at least something better than using safari or something

whats the best phone camera? pixel has good low light, but its overpriced

>>59680023
Thanks, my new phone (a Xiaomi Redmi Note 4x) should arrive soon, I think I will try it on this one after that, because I've read there is a relatively big risk of bricking it. Is this true or am I being just paranoid?

>>59680043
Ok, good to know. But do we know exactly what kind of data it sends?

Cell phones give you brain damage and cause cancer.

>>59680336
Just looked into this phone and the software looks pretty garbage, I've never rooted a phone so would it be an easy process to root it and put something another on it?

>>59680582
Proof?

>>59676746
>all of the Samsung flagships use glorious OLED
>yet they're ruined with those disgusting edge screens
>S8 doesn't comes in a flat version

I want to get off of this ride

>>59680588
Check the xda-developers page for the phone and look for guides like unlock bootloader/install twrp/install custom rom. Chinese phones are usually not hard to do if you can follow instructions, and totally worth it.

>>59680632
Thanks man

>>59680582
Being alive will make you die.

>>59680589
Incredible consistency of well designed epidemiological studies over the last 30 years, and low level observations of calcium flux following pulsed field exposure at microwave frequencies.

Reviews to start with:
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0891061815000599
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3780531/
Also:
http://www.bioinitiative.org/

Specifically, look into the effect of pulsed fields at ELF to upper microwave frequencies on calcium flux (activation of voltage gated calcium channels), and subsequent increased NO production and generation of peroxynitrite. Look into decrease in pyramidal cell dendritic arborization, altered synaptogenesis, and decreases spine density in hippocampal neurons. Look into increases in blood brain barrier permeability. Look into decreased fertility (mishapen sperm with damaged DNA), and immune system changes.

A simple google search for "microwave dendritic arborization" will bring up a lot on its own.

>>59680701
Yet I doubt you drive 110 mph down the road whenever you think it'll be fun. It's because there are tangible consequences you can visualize and understand intuitively. It is not the same with slow bodily damage over time.

Cell phone use runs entirely counter to most people's purported value system.

>>59680834
How do you get by without a cell phone anon?

>>59680905
>I have barely anyone to call
>can't get by without a cell phone
These things are amazing, I almost never used the phone part of them.

>>59680905
Pretty easily. If I ever need to communicate with someone, generally, I'll know where they are and I just use a phone in a store or whatever somewhere. Sometimes it's corded, sometimes not. I don't form relationships that need an element of constant connection.

Just think back before you had a cell phone. How did you get by? Watch some old shows from the 50's and 60's, how did they get by and maintain reasonable efficiency? Same deal. Although one thing I do dislike is that phone hardware is unfortunately among the best implementations of modern ARM processors available. Part of me would like something fast, small, and efficient for mobile computing. Though the desire is more of a curious "what if" than any kind of drive. I keep everything I need in my head, I can listen to all my music in my head, all the videos I might want to watch, etc.

Thinkin bout getting the G6 but I'm worried about the bad rep LG has

How true is it?

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Just got my Xiaomeme Note 3 Pro but I'm not seeing how it's gonna achieve the 10h+ SoT I see everyone getting. The battery drain is way higher than I expected but I don't know what to do. This cannot continue.

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Best service provider in the US?

>>59680997
>Just got my Xiaomeme Note 3 Pro but I'm not seeing how it's gonna achieve the 10h+ SoT I see everyone getting. The battery drain is way higher than I expected but I don't know what to do. This cannot continue.
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Próxima vez compra alguma coisa que presta e não esses lixo chineses

In summary, anything that uses microwave frequencies, especially as pulsed fields (digital transmission), ie, cell phones, wifi, bluetooth, smart meters, certain types of radar, activates voltage gated calcium channels yielding deleterious effects.

I'm not keen to go down into a haze of early onset dementia and infertility with the rest of you, but I'm trapped. On some level, I have to absolutely detest all of you. I'm sure you can understand.

>>59681162
None. Choose to not have brain damage for the sake of your little talky doodad. Stand apart from the flow of the herd.

https://www.fairphone.com/en/
Thoughts? Not considering one, just my vegan brother showed it to me.

>>59681192
But you're surrounded by radio and microwaves. Most of the developed world has these devices and many buildings have them too. So whether or not you have them, the waves are going all around you anyway. You're not special because you tell people that they cause damage. You're being damaged already and no amount of soapbox standing will change that.

>>59681237
I literally just said that. Explicitly.

I think you need to get out of the microwaves, Anon.

>>>59681237
>I literally just said that. Explicitly.
>I think you need to get out of the microwaves, Anon.

Please leave, you're making this thread less good.

>>59681267
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>>59681236
I like the idea of it, especially hows its easily repairable. But the specs arent competetive enough to entice me yet,

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>>59681249
>>59681267

>>59681286
>hows its easily repairable
Unlike DNA when its repair machinery fails.

>>59681331
What did he mean by this?

>>59681339
What did he not mean by this.

>>59681331
What are stem cells? Can you just leave already? I can tell who you are by your rancid fucking cancer posts.

>>59681295
Could you just leave? No one cares about cancer and your hippie talk

>>59681363
>Stem cells
Elaborate.

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>>59681377
>has the time to look up effects of microwave frequencies
>can't look up stem cells

>>59681366
No. Belief does not make reality, and the universe is not your slave. You're living a fantasy and I'm going to make sure you know it.

>>59681405
You should read a bit about "stem cells" yourself.

>>59681406
>No. Belief does not make reality, and the universe is not your slave. You're living a fantasy and I'm going to make sure you know it.

Nah

>>59681430
You don't have a choice.

>>59681447
>>59681416
>>59681331
>>59681192
>>59680812
>>59680582

Are you Shareblue?

>>59681494
No.

I'm only the first four.

>>59681494
Huh? What would they gain from that

Posting this from the Moto G5 plus, was very excited to get one so I bought it today. So far, excellent one for the price. I would say it can compete for the /g/ phone of the year. Hell it even has removable battery.

Excellent camera, terrific display and battery, lots of storage, 2/4GB of ram. Crazy phone for only 229$, also Snapdragon 625. I recommend it!

>Buy a Pixel a few months ago
>Feel pretty ok about it, it's not as great as it was hyped up to be but it does what I need it to
>Galaxy S8 gets revealed
>Almost cum in pants when I see that sexy bezel
>Cant stop thinking about how ugly and chunky my Pixel looks now

I know it's shallow, but I want to kill myself for not waiting

>>59681697

I think the pixel looks good. Learn how to be satisfied with what you have and don't be a fag.

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>>59681552
Here's my home screen.

>>59681794
>Telegram
Not even once.

>>59680992
I agree with your description of how people got by in the 50's and 60's, but if you still want to be relevant today, you have to be able to adapt.

Also, listening to music in your head, watching videos in your head? You might need to get that checked out.

>>59676350
Post review when you get it

>>59681865
>but if you still want to be relevant today, you have to be able to adapt.
Adapt, relative to what. And at what cost. You don't simply adapt in the abstract.

>Also, listening to music in your head, watching videos in your head? You might need to get that checked out.
I don't follow.
I don't want to follow.

>>59681794
Gfs prime addition arrived today
Finna set dat sheit up

>>59676515
The touch id on the back is still holding me from buying.

>>59680444
no app, i wish tho

>>59681901
Post glioblastoma MRI shots when you get it.

>>59680997
Something is wake locking your phone

Stop doing things wrong

>>59682040
fugg... That really makes me sad. How hard would it be to make one??

>>59681552
But the G5 plus doesn't have a removable battery.

>>59680812
>Get to outlive my peers because I'm ahead of the curve.
>Don't get to experience perhaps the greatest technological advancements in human history.
I just don't know man.

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How is it the the iphone still mops the floors with any other phone for single core performance?

>>59682238
I think it has to do with the content not being allowed in the app store, though i don't know for sure. Mobile isn't bad desu

>>59682278
Because they control BOTH the hardware and software. That means they can optimize it for maximum performance.

>>59682238
Not allowed in walled garden

Also cannot play webms on iPhones without opening them in an app.

>>59682278
All their phones are dual core only and just have 2 fast cores

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>>59682386
>>59682293
Man... I don't want to sound like an autist but that's really disappointing...

>>59682256
It's not about outliving your peers. You, probably, aside from the development of an aggressive cancer or spontaneous cardiac arrest, don't simply remain fine for years and years and then just drop dead one day. It's a slow decline that you don't readily notice as your brain cells die off, dendritic arborization and spine density decreases, some cells are rendered asynaptic, DNA damage reaches a point where cells are dysfunctional, your blood brain barrier has become permeable and your brain is colonized by various species of fungi, etc. It's a slow wasting death where you lose yourself bit by bit. This shit ain't a fantasy, this is the real world. There is no clean and philosophically pleasing death. Just slowly accumulating damage.

Also, after 3 - 6 generations we very possibly will be incapable of producing viable offspring. That's exactly what happened to mice put in test conditions similar to modern human exposure. They ceased being able to reproduce after a period of a high rate of defective offspring.

You people just don't get it. Ever see the episode of the Twilight Zone, number 12 looks just like you? When she realizes they're incapable of comprehending what she's saying. Very easy to empathize with.

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So what do you guys think of the nextbit robin? Is it good for it's price? Or is it just a meme? I have around 200 dollars right now, but I can strech that to about 250 if it's really worth it. I also want to save moneys. Is it a good deal for $150?

>>59682470
I know that feel, its just as well though, I dont need to be on here at work

>>59682528
I hear it snaps in half like a toy.

>>59682583
All cell phones are toys for overgrown children.

>>59682583
Yeah I heard that too. Its not really a problem for me, but does it have reasonable specs for the price? Its dirt cheap.

>>59682528

Nextbit is now owned by razer, its a DOA product now.

Just setup a G5+, even with only 2GB its nice
Deffo recco

>>59682651
Yes, it's decent. But there are other options.
Moto G5+ is $185 with Prime and ads. And I think the Zuk Z2 non pro is under 200 aswell.

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>need a new phone
>don't get paid until Monday
>whatever I order won't be here until Wednesday if I'm lucky
>current phone is trying its hardest to be completely kill before the weekend is over
This blows.

>>59682748
>Paying to damage your brain and elevate your risk of psychological problems
We should just stick to ethanol for that.

Is the galaxy s8 the greatest phone ever or should I go with xz premium.

>tfw Nexus 6P
Is this what the end game feels like? I've never owned a more comfy phone in my life.

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>>59682802

>>59682870
It's comfy because it provides a short term elevation in frontal norepinephrine secretion, and dopamine secretion in the nucleus accumbens, mesolimbic regions, and broader striatum. Serotonin is generally lowered. Voltage gated calcium channels control gene expression and neurotransmitter release. You literally are physically addicted.

>>59682825
Both probably give the same sort of brain damage. Shouldn't matter too much.

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if that's mi6. xiaomeme really upped their game, no one is going to buy samsung in china. sungook is finished. doa.

>>59682901
Shouldn't you be in a cave somewhere? The internet is killing your brain. And you're kind of a hypocrite for being on here while talking about how modern electronics fuck up our DNA and shit.

I guess
>You literally are physically addicted

>>59674157
Any ausfags recommend a good phone? I know we get shafted on prices, but I'm not against paying more than 1k for something like the pixel XL. Currently on my Z2 with telshit but I think it's on her last legs

Anyone here own an S7 edge? How do you like it over the standard? I can't decide if I want the standard, Edge, or Active.

Anyone use a 6" or larger phone daily? How is that?

>>59682926
>5ft
Keklet.

>>59682955
I'm willing to take some degree of ELF exposure from wiring, occasional exposure to (high voltage) power lines, etc. Other people's dorky wireless shit everywhere, however, is where I draw the line. The internet also isn't killing my brain, though the radiation emitted from most screens isn't too grand on the eyes.

And I take phenibut as a painkiller, which blocks calcium channel activation to some degree. Probably helps a bit.

>>59682926
It's probably the rumored mi mix mini, i doubt the mi6 will look like that

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>mfw I bought Moto Z Play with 3000mAh batt mod

>>59683001
>Anyone use a 6" or larger phone daily? How is that?

I've used the note 4 and 5 that are 5.7" and a galaxy a9 which is 6". They're not uncomfortable, but it mostly depends on what type of clothes you wear, I'm a /fit/zen and while my pants are somewhat tight, they're not skinny jeans either, so if you're a skinny kid and you wear skin tight shite, it might not be so comfy

>>59683016
Then quit being a preachy faggot since you live among people who do the shit you don't like.

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>>59683016

>>59683001
I use a 5.7" phone daily and it's fine, but I have large hands because I'm not a manlet.

>>59683067
Yes. Just slump down into a ball like a trapped animal. Sit down and take it silently while watching decent people that believe they have a future, destroy themselves, and me as well, because I'm a wage slave that ain't goin' anywhere.

What a joke. I rarely mention this unless it comes up, in person. If you were actually secure and not on the defensive internally, you'd realize this and figure what's going on in my head, without being told. Grow up you little pest.

>>59683072
Microwaves pass right through the skull, and that hat is an ungrounded dome. It would act like an antenna and bounce it around inside, increasing exposure. It is worse than useless. lrn2basicphysics

>>59683139
Teach me your ways senpai. I want to live without brain damage too

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>>59683139
> I rarely mention this unless it comes up, in person. If you were actually secure and not on the defensive internally, you'd realize this and figure what's going on in my head

Oh right, I totally forgot. How could I not use my clairvoyance and figure out that about you? HA, FUCK ME RIGHT?

What annoys me is that people are trying to have a discussion about phones and learn but you just chime in with your little shit comments that no one was asking for. And if it was once, it would be okay but you've done it to multiple comments, multiple times and it's annoying to see it like every third comment.

>>59683158
Unfortunately there's not much to teach. Don't use a cell phone, don't have or use wifi in your house (make sure you modem stops emitting entirely, some leave the wifi carrier signal active even when disabled. In this case just wrap the antenna in multiple layers of aluminum foil), reduce exposure as much as possible. If you have a smart meter for your electricity, try to get its wireless module removed. Some people shut off their electricity at the breaker when they sleep, I don't bother. I don't have a routine. If you live in a place with a lot of neighbors, or near a cell tower, power lines, etc, try to go somewhere else. Some people have success with paints that contain graphite, though if there's an emitter within the room, or a source outside a window, again, this will cause the signal to bounce around inside.

Other than that, try to get proper sleep. Good diet, exercise, etc.

I live away from people and there's no cell signal or wifi, but I work using wireless devices everyday. No real choice. I hate it and feel trapped, and I'm sick of interfacing with the false reality other people seem to be living in.

I've been awake at least 38 hours now. I'm leaving soon. Any further questions should come quickly.

>>59683202
>and learn
You kind of need a properly functioning hippocampus for that. You would have a much easier time if you didn't use wireless devices. And I'm going to make damn sure you develop an accurate conception of the nature of your actions, and your everyday.

>>59677165
Roll

>>59683276
lol. You're almost a good troll.
Anything I say I know you'll come back at me with some stupid comment stemming from your inferiority complex. It's obvious that you need to think you know something that other people don't and use that to make yourself feel better. You're just as brain damaged as me, bro. Just because you think you aren't, it doesn't make it so. If you drink water, eat food, breathe, I'm pretty sure your body is fucked beyond your knowledge.

>>59683307
Faggot

Besides the Galaxy are there any other phones on the market that offer water proofing/resistance? I've had smartphones regularly for seven years now and the only ones I've ever broken were from water damage.

>>59683388
iPhone 7
some Xperia phones

>>59683329
>stemming from your inferiority complex
I don't have an inferiority complex, I have an outsider complex, which can include knowledge of inferiority but doesn't contain it as a core structural element. I've lived a very atypical life, still live very differently than anyone I ever meet, and I'm incapable of meaningfully connecting with my environment and other people. At one point this was a mix of protecting other people, thinking I was sparing them a burden, and cowardice. At this point the way I operate and my value system is just too different, at the core there's irreconcilably sharp contrast. Everywhere I look. I don't have any ties and I don't have any lasting place in anything. I haven't for a long time.

You see things better as an outsider, from a detached and alien perspective. Less clutter.

>It's obvious that you need to think
I don't need to anything. I do know more than you. I am more honest than you. And I do care about the truth more than you. If it was different you would've, and should've, shown me different. You didn't, and you won't, because it isn't. And that's just the way it is. I've been studying biochemistry, molecular biology, and pathology, for more than a decade. Most of my drive was to fix my own health problems.

>You're just as brain damaged as me, bro.
Possibly more. Possibly significantly less, in the ways that matter. It's irrelevant. One of us takes care of themselves based on the available data, the other doesn't. That much is inarguable. One of us is wrong and living a fantasy. It's you.

>eat food
My diet is practically engineered, iteratively, over many years. By necessity, and probably better than any other poster in this thread. You included. Feel good Anon, you can go out to eat or buy some garbage at a convenience store if you get hungry. I generally starve until I can go home.

That's that. I have other things to be doing.

>Gear VR is $100
Is it worth it?

>>59683520
lol. Okay you special snowflake autist. Your ego is way too big my man. Life isn't so absolute like you think it is. I never even said you were wrong about anything you said. I just said you were annoying. It's like someone who blurts out how smoking is bad for you and you should stop. Yes we all know but fuck it gets annoying to hear it all the time. So if you could stand being argued with, you would see that I never even said you were wrong. But I guess that's what the autism does to you, gives you hyper fucking focus.

You'll probably die sooner than me because of your hypochondriac, fearful nature. Stress is real and will probably kill you quicker than a phone.

Anyway, get to bed you weirdo. We need to get back to discussing phones here.

>>59682240
I got that backwards then, whoops.

>>59683603
>Stress is real and will probably kill you quicker than a phone.
This is very true. Luckily I'm not a hypochondriac.

>So if you could stand being argued with, you would see that I never even said you were wrong.
Let's not get too lawyerly here, it was heavily and quite naturally implied.

Anyway, remember this conversation if you ever have children and they come out with birth defects. Remembers this when you start to see infertility, spontaneous abortion, and early onset alzheimers / dementia rates rise rapidly in the next 10 - 15 years. You'll be doing some real rethinking about that smoking analogy. Real waste of potential, as always. Guess that's make it a fitting end.

>>59683001
Anyone that holds a 6 inch phone to their face looks like an idiot. Unless their head is huge or something

>>59683638
>>>59683603
>>Stress is real and will probably kill you quicker than a phone.
>This is very true. Luckily I'm not a hypochondriac.
>>So if you could stand being argued with, you would see that I never even said you were wrong.
>Let's not get too lawyerly here, it was heavily and quite naturally implied.
>Anyway, remember this conversation if you ever have children and they come out with birth defects. Remembers this when you start to see infertility, spontaneous abortion, and early onset alzheimers / dementia rates rise rapidly in the next 10 - 15 years. You'll be doing some real rethinking about that smoking analogy. Real waste of potential, as always. Guess that's make it a fitting end.

Shut up autist, let me talk about phones in peace

>>59683679
>>>59683001
>Anyone that holds a 6 inch phone to their face looks like an idiot. Unless their head is huge or something

>things that don't matter

>>59683684
Ever watch the show Columbo?

Oh, and, just one more thing Anon. Just one more thing. Real quick, won't take more than a moment. Thank you sir. Now let's see... Wait a second... what was it.... I'm pretty sure it had something to do with memory. Dendrins... dendrils, ah yes that's right, I recall now. The dendritic spines are altered with exposure to wi-fi and GSM 1800 frequencies, leading to impaired memory. Let me just see if I can dig out...
ah, right where I left em, on my clip board. Here it is.
https://academic.oup.com/toxsci/article/148/2/380/2461689/2-45-GHz-Microwave-Radiation-Impairs-Learning-and
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18031599

Now would you just look at that. Some pretty interesting stuff, and it doesn't look to good for you and your hobby, but I don't know. Something to keep in mind I guess.

>>59674157
Is there a equivalent to eyeleo for phone? A program that locks the phone every 30(or whatever) minutes, for 5 minutes.

>>59683593
I got one with my S7, and while it's a neat toy that's about it. It's a great entry point to VR but there's not much to do in VR at the moment, especially on phones.

>>59678161
huh?

>>59683742
No

>>59683769
He meant: where to cop

>>59683757
What if I mainly just want it for when I >DUDE WEED and watch videos on the weekends? I imagine I could get pretty comfy with it. Refurbished S7 or Refurbished S7 Edge? I don't have time to wait for the S8 to come out and drop S7 prices even more unfortunately.

>>59682300
This. It's genius really. It just works.

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>NEW
>MEME
>CHINK
>PHONE

The Bluboo R1, is supposed to drop this month.

>Helios X30 - 160,000 Antutu score.
>Sony IMX315
>IP68 protection.
>Shock protection.
>Stock Android.
>7,000+ mAh battery.

No word on price, but hopefully it's like $300.

>>59683863
And i'll probably be $350 new and completely unlocked. Fucking chinks making everything better

>>59683879
It honestly nothing new/innovative, but it's pretty much everything I've wanted in a phone.

>>59683863
Wonder what the contacts next to the fingerprint sensor are?

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>Clover using image captchas
>no setting to use text captchas
>mobile site full of ads
save me from this phoneposter hell /g/

Trying to upgrade from a zte v6.
Is the moto g5 good, I really like the fact thst you can use the fingerscan as a home botton/multi task/back.

>>59683940
Been playing with a G5+ 2GB for the past couple of hours
Its pretty good actually

I just downgraded my Moto G3 from Lineage OS 14.1 to CyanogenMod 13.0. Holy shit it's so much better. My phone's last official update was for 6.0, so the Nougat roms are all buggy.

Not much speed difference but right now I'm at 53% battery with 2h40m sot. And my Bluetooth doesn't randomly drop.

S7 or V20? I don't know that I'm honestly gonna use the crap on the top of the V20, but it looks like a nice phone otherwise, also comes in 64gb internal for the same price...

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>>59683910
>not being a good goy
Don't have $20?

>>59682172
>Something is wake locking your phone
Yeah, his dirty brazilian hands

To the people who own a "flagship" phone:

What do you guys even do with your phones that warrants such strong hardware or a huge screen?

I need a new phone and considered buying a Oneplus 3t, but then I only use my phone for making calls, browsing the web and texting. Such a good phone would pretty much be a waste for that, right?

Currently thinking about getting the Huawei P9

Got a S8+ preordered at worst buy. Wish me luck guys

>>59683910
Aren't text captchas worse

>>59680992
You are a saddo. Sour grapes to the max.

>>59684280
I watch a lot of videos and I enjoy when they look nice. I also mostly use my phone for taking videos and pictures so the nicer the camera the better.

>Magpul doesn't make a Bump case for the S7, just the field case
God dammit. I love my bump case on my iPhone. I've dropped my phone countless times onto my gyms parking lot and down my stairs a couple times with my bump case on and no fucks given.

>buy a sub $400 refurbished Galaxy S7 on eBay
Or
>buy a month of H2O wireless and take either the free Galaxy S3 Mini or the free ZTE Compel and wait for the S8 to come out and drop the price of the S7
Which one should I do?

Bought an Oppo R9s lads did I fuck up?

>>59684609
yes. oppo is in conversation about a new flagship

What do you think about WilleyFox Swift. I'm in Poland and would buy it from amazon.de. I would instal LineageOs on it.

Should I just buy an iPhone?

Any of you guys ever use Gazelle or a similar website? They're offering me $55+$20 credit for my iPhone 6 with a fucked screen. Are there any other places to consider? I just want to knock a few dollars off of my next phone.

>>59683910
downgrade to the older version, I did the same after I noticed that I can't bypass the image captchas.

>have always had bulky protective cases on my phones
>finally stopped using them
>now not using a case at all
Fuck this is so much more comfortable to hold.

Whats the smartphone I can get with the best battery life? Preferably on the smaller side of things, no bigger than a Galaxy S4 is preferred.

Only need it for shitposting on 4chan, checking email, banking apps.

Australia.
Budget not an issue

Whats the lightest browser and pdf reader?

>>59685025
I use the built in browser (lineage os) and foxit reader. They work for me.

>have always had bulky protective cases on my phones
>finally stopped using them
>now not using a case at all
Fuck this is so much more comfortable to hold.

location: Germany
want: medium size, decently fast CPU/decent amount of RAM, decent battery life, robust, SD-card slot, USB-C, android OS
don't want: finger print/iris scanner, bloatware, SIM-lock, chink shit
don't care for front-facing camera
price: around 300€, give or take

Samsung Galaxy A3 looks decent, any other suggestions?

>>59676603
They are literally the iPhone for Android.

>>59685049
wileyfox swift 2 plus
bq aquaris x5 plus

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>>59685043
have funds saved for a screen repair

>>59685119
>uk is the most careful with their phones

Rule, Britannia.

>>59685079
that's what marketing department of samsung wants you to think, and it may have been true 5 years ago, but these days other brands like xiaomi, huawei, pixel are doing quite well in terms of quality and they do have premium-priced devices as well

How does one unlock their Xiaomi phones without contacting Xiaomi ? I want to update my Mi4c but i can't do it via the updater and there's a global rom for it on Xiaomi's website

>>59685131
>38<34
Anon, I...

>>59685138
>other brands like xiaomi, huawei, pixel
none of those are sold by the majority of US carriers

>>59685171
you've got to do it but it's easy

http://en.miui.com/unlock/

>>59685206
or try this or something

https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-4c/general/guide-unlocking-mi4c-bl-verification-t3336779

>>59680235
LG V20

>>59683757
Isn't getting it for watching movies and porn worf it?
I heard you can convert movies for it yourself

>>59680599
At least we have the LG G6

>>59685171
Mi4C can be unlocked without contacting xiaomi by using "fastboot oem unlock". I think you need to be on dev rom for it to work, basically you need to use EDL mode to flash one of the roms it works on with and then use the fastboot oem unlock then flash twrp + whatever you want.

LG is pure shiet

>>59684280
Even a $100 phone would be enough for your use

>>59684993
Redmi 4 Pro. 4100mah battery + SD625 = easily +12h SoT

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Hey,

so I just got my Redmi 4A and an LTE/4G data plan with 1gb.

1. Is there a way to force my phone to give open/available WLAN connections a higher priority than using my carrier's internet?
I want to save as much of that 1gb as I can and while I'm at home and have my own WLAN + internet, I wouldn't need my phone to use up my data cap anyway.

2. This question is a bit silly, but still: If you google "pornhub" or other more adult oriented site names, does it give you a direct link to that site (*******.com) or just some related news posts, but never the site itself? Because in my case, the latter happens.

3. Would you recommend a case or a screen protector for the 4a? If so, which one did you get and how is it holding up so far?


Cheers.

>>59684941
which one would that be lad

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>>59685363
Oooo, almost forgot one:

4. I want to finally use WhatsApp, but I need a gmail account first (for the entire app store I guess?). Do you guys use some throwaway gmail account with fictional user data or, if you have one, your real gmail?

Also, won't they link any gmail account I access on my phone directly to my phone number anyway?

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>>59682992
Pls.

>>59685366
2.2 from fdroid.

>>59685049
Might as well get the A5 2017. Faster CPU, more ram and storage. Also check out Honor 8.

>>59685049
>Samsung Galaxy A3
>Samsung

why do this to yourselves?
get an equal or better phone built by the same asian parts, assembles with the same asian hands but for half the price and just buy xiamo.

thank me later.

>>59685470
1.2.11 is still the best version desu

Galaxy S7 available for $399 new
http://www.androidauthority.com/deal-galaxy-s7-unlocked-399-ebay-761010/

>>59685565
>remember the date
>figure it will probably be a joke
>check
>it's not
Please god let the price hold until at least jusr after 7am Monday morning

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>>59685363
>>59685376

Anyone? ;_;

>>59685363
1. WLAN is given priority over mobile data as long as you've connected to it before and it's in your saved networks

2. You might have "safe search" on in Google settings. For me pornhub.com is the first result when searching for "Pornhub"

3. Don't think the Redmi 4A has gorilla glass so I'd use a glass screen protector at least. Don't bother with the plastic film ones, they're shit.

4. I use my real Gmail account for my phone account for convenience but using a throwaway account is fine too. Just remember your account details so you don't get locked out of your phone!

Ordered my moto g5 yesterday can't wait it said on the site it wouldn't be here till the 17 but it did that with my g3 and it was here in like 2 days anyone know why it's gives long delivery dates?

Is it essential for the Moto G4 to get some screen protection/cover?

Currently I have none at all, what I noticed is that on my previous phone my finger would glide better over the screen, with this one not so.

Which ROM for Moto G 2014 titan? On CM13 ATM and had to tweak and hack to get rid of the lag.

>>59680444
You can sideload Clover but you either go with some shady third party signing service, have to resign every week or get a 100 a year dev account.

Currently on a oneplus X, and while it's pretty good, it's a bit slow from time to time and I'm having pretty bad reception in general.
Worth it to pick up a 3T now or should I wait for the 4/5 ?

>>59677165

r4llintg

>>59685760
You only have 1 GB of RAM, try downgrading to KitKat or something.

>>59685858
4 doesn't seem to be that far away, if you want to get a 3T at least get a lightly used 3T right after the 4 drops.

>>59685986
There's no 4

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>>59685979
So recommend an aftermarket kitkat rom, please.

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Guys

Been struggling for hours... I can't install any Roms on my Oukitel K6000 Pro

Well one rom has been installed but I'm stuck in bootloop
I've tried switching back the official rom but I get pic related.

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Fucking finally!

>Moto G4

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>30 Megapixel camera
Disgusting

Why would you NEED a 30 Megapixel camera when Zuk Z2 Pro has a better camera?

Xiaomi shills BTFO.

Will xperia z2 get android 7.0? pls respond

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>>59686266
do your own research you fat lazy american piece of shit

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My 4yo fone is dying and i'm thinking about getting a new one. My mom is a fone merchant and she's shilling this Lenovo K6 Note hard to me, should i get it or is there a better option in that price range? It doesn't even have fast charging from what i see but i have it here with me to check it out, i could just load my shit on it and start using it or wait for a better one. wat do

>>59686507
zuk z2 pro

>>59686266
CyanogenMod 11
Also use Naked Browser

best place to download cracked apk's? I'm looking for ROM Toolbox Pro, paid ES File Explorer etc.

>>59686600
mobilism

>>59686413
Eh, it ain't that great.

>>59687044

>>59687044

>>59687044

>>59679835
Sony has totally gone to shit with their phones recently,
unlike advertised, my z5 compact isn't waterproof and has self cracked its screen.

There is also a site Findpare.com where I found Xiaomi Mi 6 - https://www.findpare.com/compare/smartphones?q=xiaomi - they have prices from many Chinese stores + ratings. Good source.

>>59686388
>buying a Mediatek phone
>buying Oukitel
Wow you sure got memed, my friend. I suggest buying a Xiaomi or Lenovorola like every other poorfag.