Firefox is dying

How did Firefox go down so fast?

>>59659957
take a look at their homepage for clues.

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/

>>59659933
Get your wallets out and donate!!!

>>59659957
They went full sjw

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Check out Firefox market share on mobile... jesus.

>>59659957
They abandoned their core users.

OP is a
F
aggot

>>59660016
>tfw only use firefox on mobile because mobile chrome doesn't let me use extensions

>>59659957
Phones started outnumbering computers, and you don't use Firefox on phones.

>>59659957
That's what happens when you go full SJW instead of working on the browser itself. I switched to Chromium after more than 10 years using Firefox with no regrets.

i only use chrome on mobile because firefox doesnt have autofill natively. and the extension never works for me.

I'm still using firefox why would I ever want to use chrome

Firefox works just fine.

I also want to use as little google products as I can get away with (outside of android phones).

>>59660016
Their mobile app is shit, it feels sluggish even on high ends and uses more ram than Chrome.

>>59660016
If chrome let me block ads on mobile I'd use it

>>59660046
t. Mad firecucks user

>>59660121
I get nasty fps issues with 30fps videos on firefox, and every "fix" has done nothinf

>>59659957
They didn't - you're getting memed at

Its simply because they're not advertising (as opposed to Google's advertising to the extent of forcing it in some installers and on the frontpage of Google) which means that all the expansion in the currently-expanding market goes to Chrome. They're merely farming the inflation of PC and phone users, while Firefox remains constant, which may make it look like it's "shrinking" when compared to Chrome

>>59659957
The real issue that people here are ignoring is the CEO replacement, I don't know why people are just saying "SJW". Brendan Eich actually understood why the browser had been successful: resource friendly, and pro modification/development. All of the recent idiotic additions to the browser in recent years have slowed it down completely, made it hog resources, and cause it to crash every fucking day.

They had a good user base but they wanted Google Chrome's retarded userbase, but instead they lost their own.

>>59660181
Firefox mobile player is a fucking joke. Why do I need to wait it download half the video to play?

>>59660093
I use

>>59660246
The CEO bullshit is included in "SJW". Firing a good worker due his political views is beyond retarded.

>>59660093
OP's image is for desktops only.

>>59660156
Just use adaway you cuck.

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F

>>59659993
Niggers, literally worse than atomic bombs

I switched when they started removing features or forcing hello and pocket shit.

Cyberfox was the only save haven and that project died a couple weeks ago too.

Maybe icecat has improved since the last time I used it.

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>>59659993

You know that the Firefox development team has their heads up their asses when they think they need to start incrementing major version numbers faster to stay competitive with Google.

>>59659993
>niggers
>pajeets
>something between a man and a woman
What the fuck Mozilla

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>>59659933
F

Who gives a shit about market share, every other browser is still worse than Firefox, especially Chrome. I've been using Nightly for years without any problems

I use firefox for phone porn browsing with ublock origin

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>>59659933
F

>>59660305
Thanks for the free info cuck

>>59660418

infopleb

What I want to know is how Google got normies to start using Chrome.

>>59660462
cuck

>>59660532
Because the sites that normies use 90% of the time, Google and YouTube, are plastered with "This site runs better on Chrome!" ads. You literally get like 3 different ads for installing Chrome when you go on YouTube without Adblock.

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>>59660532
And afterwards you start to get spammed with "pls install chrome its faster lol :^)". Proceed to make a huge mainstream meme that Chrome is """"faster"""" and they'll proceed to recommend it to eachother like they're spreading the plague. While Firefox remains that tryhard browser that only "those weird guys who rebel against the mainstream" install

>>59660532
If you are not using a Chrome based browser google.com will nag you about how it is faster and you should download it. At least it used to do that

>>59660532
Google is a massive advertising company. They advertise it on Google. It comes pre-installed on all Android phones. It comes bundled with other software. It really isn't a surprise.

>>59660568
>>59660569
>>59660582
>>59660588
I tried to get people to use Firefox for like a decade, back in the IE6/7 days when Firefox was several times faster and websites worked a lot better.
Even if I installed it for them, set it to their default browser, they would still click that happy little 'e'

>chrome spawns 30 100mb processes
>firefox remains under 1-2gb unless I lurk more and have 100 4chan tabs open

>>59660641
Yep, as I said, most people believe that the sole reason one even bothers using Firefox is because they're rebelling against the mainstream, and since they don't consider themselves such people, they simply revert to what the mainstream uses. Their thought process is basically "but I'm fine on IE or Chrome why should I bother using Firefox???" while branding any claim that its invading your privacy as "schizo tinfoil conspiracy", and if proven wrong, "I got nothing to hide so I have no problem OK??"

Overpopulation was a mistake

All this tells us is that Firefox users are smart enough to spoof their user agent.

>>59660004
As Google did? So what?

>>59660740
Letting normies use computers was a mistake. We should have kept it where you had to spend hundreds for a few MB of hard drive space and RAM was measured in KB.

I've stopped using Firefox since I saw feminist messages on the start page, I'm using chromium now.

>>59660698
ramlet

>letting pajeets and sjw cunts anywhere near management
This is your lesson.

>>59660133
It's not sluggish for me and I'm on a shitphone from 2011 (Droid4).

Only issue I have is that there is no customization ability. It's just Chrome + some addons like uBlock

>>59661010
>being so triggered by feminists that you voluntarily use inferior software

>>59660121
Use Waterfox. Much better.

>>59659933
Firefox is the mpv of browsers. What do you expect to happen in a world where MPC-HC exists?

>>59661161
I tried to use mpv, while it has decent video quality with
profile=opengl-hq
video-sync=display-resample

Its just fucking horrible, the keybinds are shit, the ui is shit, the shit is shit, the documentation is open source shit

shits just shit yo, MPC-HC does all it does, but better.

>>59661068
>Waterfox
Did they fix the problem with constant hiccups and freezes? I'm using a version from like 2015 and every time I try updating to the new version it's still shit so I have to re-downgrade.

>>59659993
I don't see a white man. Where are all the white men at?

>>59660532
They made a better browser that actually looks like a better browser.
IE6 vs Firefox, Firefox looked like IE6. Firefox performed around 12% better so nerds installed it. Chrome vs Firefox, Chrome was around 300% better with 50% more screen real estate. Everyone could notice what the lack of toolbars and tabs on top could do. You notice later the speed and lack of memory leaks.

>>59661065
Using free software is about ideas, I chose to use Firefox not because it was better but because it was open source, now I chose to not use software that supports ideas I don't.

>>59661250
they're doing the actual programming and working on their own destruction.

I need a browser that's just chrome without the stupid toblerone tabs that hide everything if you have too many. I'm grown up and don't care about open sores, botnet, or ricing anymore.

>>59661383
>luk at mi im a returd that dunt uze fierycat with tabby trees!
>Im specul

>>59661017
it's only a problem on my laptop(s)

>>59659993
>https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/
to the shitter it goes

>>59661383
Fucking this.
The only browser that I started to like more is MS Edge - it's fast and light, but it has two serious defects - it doesn't support webm normally and when you quickly click and move from one tab to another it pulls out one of the tab into a separate window - it fucking pisses me off and I stopped using it.
If they fix it - I would stick with MS Edge instead of Chrome.

>>59660121
>why would I ever want to use chrome
This. How can anyone on /g/ use this?

I've been using Firefox since ye olde Opera was laid to rest, and I don't have anything bad to say about it. I don't even remember it crashing on GNU/Linux or Windows since I started using it full time. I don't rice it and shit it up with extensions (just two) so maybe that's why?

>>59660004
better full sjw than full botnet

>>59659933
>SJW shoved down your throat every day
>botnet that can be solved by using a VPN

REALLY MAKES ME THINK!

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They replaced the inventor of javascript Brendan Eich with some random black trannies and lesbians. if you still use FF you're a cuck.

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Fake news, botnetmonkey.

>>59661503
>>59660121

because ff is the least secure browser (google it) made by nigger tranny transexual binary faggots.

also google Brendan Eich.

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>>59661657
>better full sjw than full botnet
there is no difference, those that support sjw are unwittingly supporters of the botnet

>>59661721
>>59661739
>Do you remember the name Brendan Eich?

>If you’re internet savvy, you know him as the creator of JavaScript, the ubiquitous programming language, and you know him as the co-founder of Mozilla, which developed the Firefox browser.

>Eich was forced to resign as the CEO of Mozilla in 2014 because he committed the cardinal sin of donating $1,000 to California’s Proposition 8 in 2008. (Proposition 8 was the pro-family bill that limited marriage to the union of one man and one woman.)

>Eich took the same position as did incoming President Obama and the majority of Californians who voted.

This is why I don't use FireFox. Fuck those guys. He got booted from his own creation but a bunch of SJW cunts. That's fucked up.

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>>59659993

What's the best FOSS browser

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I miss opera

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>>59661838
>Brendan Eich?
furries and pedos like you should enjoy the free firecuck browser. go back to le reddit, faggot.

>>59661852
what are you on about?

>>59661879
dont spread your anime cancer here, f/a/ggot.
general rule here is that pedos are not welcomed.

>>59661894
I never posted anime you faggot.

>complaining about anime
>on 4chan
You have to go back.

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>>59661894
fuck off back to plebbit and never come back

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>>59661894
back to plebbit

They diverted all their time to writing new and crazier ways of being offended into the CoC instead of, you know, making a functioning browser.

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>>59661943
>when your code of conduct has more commits than your codebase

>>59661894
Why do faggots like you come here and think the entire board culture should change based on your opinion? I don't watch anime either but I know enough to know this entire website is weebshit that became mainstream and the oldest memes are fucking anime shit.

>>59659993
The personal beliefs of the developers do not affect the code, you fucking insecure fags.

>>59661739
>>59661766
In what world does this make Chrome and google's dick down your throat a viable alternative?

>>59659993
Holy shit that ugly pink banner with a green fucking call to action at the top. Who the fuck thought that was a good idea?

Also:
> No fucking mention of firefox at first glance, except in the very top right corner, in white text that doesn't stand out, on a green button that doesn't stand out as a call to action
> No ability to navigate the image background carousel, so even if you were interested in something they had up, you can't go back to it without it waiting a full cycle
> White text without borders on top of images that have varying brightness, which causes the text to go from kind of readable to not readable at all
>That text is two sentences, one of which isn't a complete sentence, the other of which is a run-on sentence
>Holy shit, almost every sentence on this page is a run-on sentence
> 3 sections down, finally firefox, with no explanation of what it is or why you would want to use it

WHY

>>59661828

Chromium

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*blocks your path*

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>>59659933
Another day, another anti-Firefox shill thread

>>59660569
Most people have three to four browsers installed on their computers.

It is usually in this order:
Chrome
Firefox
Edge
Internet Explorer

or on older Windows computers:
Chrome, Firefox, Internet Explorer

On various Apple computers: Chrome, Firefox, Safari

I've seen this a LOT. People generally have backup browsers for whatever reason. Maybe it's because some websites are fucking trash with Chrome.

>>59661977
>only two browsers exist

Anyway, lesser SJW > greater SJW. I use Opera because chinks are based on will only sell my data to advertisers who will never use it against me. Plus free VPN.

You could download Brave to support Brendan who got cucked big time but sadly his browser's UI is shit.

Ungoogled chromium is also a fine alternative.

>>59662010
>BLACKED casting

>>59659957
Incompetent management and shit marketing (Just like AMD:^)

>>59659993
Press S to spit on grave

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>>59659933
I never liked Firefox anyway.
We all know the true king of browsers:

>demonizing and alienating white people who make up 90% of the people who actually install 3rd party browsers didn't work out for them

Who would've guessed.

>>59660093
I do. But it crashes occasionally.

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>>59662040
I'm paranoid about Chromium.
One does not simply ungoogle what has been googled. One does not simply unmicrosoft what has been microsofted.

>>59662117
*microsaft

>>59660016
>Opera mini higher than ff
They should neck themselves.

>>59662133
opera mini used to be the only mobile browser desu

>>59662103
You know that the percentage of gays in the white population isn't any lower than any other ethnicity, and that Google wasn't against gay marriage either?

>>59660246
>made it hog resources, and cause it to crash every fucking day.
what the fuck are you talking about?

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>>59662143
Yeah, there are non-gay Firefox users out there, somewhere!

>>59662144
mine has started crashing and freezing a few seconds regularly

52.0 improved the freezing I think, and even made hwaccel work again without looping the same few frames of videos over and over until restarted

but it still sucks

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>>59659993
Jesus fucking Christ

I'm going back to chrome

normies have shown their true color huh

>Under a new five-year strategic partnership announced today, Yahoo Search will become the default search experience for Firefox in the U.S.
FireFox hasn't been for the consumers in years. They sold out and got rid of the last man that was capable of stopping them

>>59660133
i still have it on my phone as chrome seems to fuck up sometimes. quick example off the top of my head, when dota release new patch notes and have animations in the websites, chrome doesn't display them but firefox does

>>59661766
>pro-family
That's rich.
>>59661766
>He got booted from his own creation but a bunch of SJW cunts
Were they really the cunts? It sounds like he was the cunt from the start. He didn't just have a bad opinion but he also funded a bad cause. Nice one, jackass.

Besides, is it wrong for Mozilla to want to preserve its good reputation? That is, of course, why Breitbart encourage Milo Yiannopoulos to resign. He was shitting on their reputation by representing himself as pedophilic. It doesn't matter in this case if he was or not: the reputation of Breitbart was at stake (which is absurd in itself as Breitbart is little more than a tabloid but I digress).

>>59661828
>>59661986
It's not good

>>59659933
That site is inaccurate as fuck. Stop shilling it.

>>59662162
Not sure what kind of setup you're using but have you considered that it just might be only you?
I for one think a sample depth of "one" is hardly representative for all of the FF installations out there.

>>59662280
>your private political beliefs should get you fired
Fuck off. I am so fucking glad Trump won and put you snowflakes in place.

>>59662274
That's the problem with Google.
Everyone wants to resist it, and have their own thing, but you just can't make anything better than google search.

You can only tolerate so much mediocrity in exchange for freedom.

>>59662316
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1318404

>>59662295
True, but it's the best you can get at the moment

>>59662335
Meanwhile, in Washington D.C., a fully Republican controlled government under President Trump passes a bill that allows ISPs to sell your browsing history to your employers.

>>59662040
Desu Brave.
Downloaded it but its kind of buggy.

>>59662343
Basically. Yeah it's great to resist monopolies and shit, but there's no competition to Google. I'm just happy Google isn't complete dicks to consumers.

>>59662358
Wrong. They can only use that information for advertisement which is how it's been for years. You fell for fake (((news))).

>>59659993
how does this even happen?

>>59661973
>developers

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>>59661010

>>59662415
>it's okay if I ignore the problem!

who /palememe/ here?

>>59661010
*Tips fedora*

>>59662523
*tips bull*

>>59662280
Found the MIDF

>>59662280
>funded a bad cause
Poo pushing poofta detected

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>>59662358
This is what millenials actually believe.

>>59662103
Do you really think that just because you're a triggered special snowflake then everybody else stopped using it for the same reasons? What's high school like?

Why can't /g/ use tech meme magick to put a trump-alike as mozilla's CEO?

>>59662547
Why are you so obsessed with cucking? Is that some projection I sense?

>>59662574
Ah, the death cry of the liberal. My cup overfloweth with your tears.

>>59662562
>This is what millenials actually believe.
Because it's true and no amount of contra-posting alt-truth is going to alter that fact.

>>59661409
no add-ons are worth using Firefox for anymore, it's fubar

Good, fuck them and all their telemetry shit, it's essentially the Windows 10 of browsers.

>>59662633
Rich coming from the people who starts crying and shitting their diapers just because a company doesn't agree with their politics

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steve klabnik... manager of Rust and employee of Mozilla.

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>>59662562
She's short, ugly, and has the fingers of a future landwhale

>>59662654
Except it's not true. From your own liberal source:

http://www.vox.com/new-money/2017/3/29/15107110/republican-isp-data-privacy
>one thing it has accomplished is rolling back internet privacy regulations passed in the waning days of the Obama administration.

>The regulations, if they had gone into effect, would have prohibited internet service providers from selling information about your online activities to advertisers.

>The good news is that nothing is going to change right away. The Obama regulations weren’t scheduled to take effect until later this year, so the Republican bill simply preserves the status quo, which allows ISPs to sell customer data to advertisers. And while the law currently allows ISPs to do this, most aren’t currently doing it.

Literally NOTHING changed. The only thing that changed was that something that wasn't happening could now happen but most likely still won't happen. You fell for fake news buddy.

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>>59659993
>>59659957

i used firefox for years over IE ofc then i used it until chrome got extensions and i was gone

theres no reason to use fireshit in 2017 lmfao. Its slow. Its garbage but thats not a big deal.

What should put everyone over the edge is that its such a fucking sjw infested piece of shit browser that NEEDS to die ASAP.

>>59662080
Internet Explorer

>>59662727
Stop being such a special snowflake, do you need a safe space?

>>59662760
Jew Klabnik is advocating violence yet SJWs fired Eich for not supporting gay marriage.

>>59659957

Chrome is bundled with a lot of installers with a little propaganda message. Most people don't care what browser they use, Chrome is just an easy choice to make when it's forced on you.

>>59661973
Clearly it does considering the company has been in freefall ever since prioritizing SJW garbage over actual skill. They made their CEO resign, fuck em.

>>59662799
Obama administration passed a law that prevented something that wasn't happening from happening and this would have gone into effect late 2017. Trump administration repealed said law that prevented something that wasn't happening from happening. Said something that wasn't happening still isn't happening and most likely will not happen because of other reasons.

The news has spun this into something that wasn't happening is now happening and this is like totally bad and you should hate Trump because of it.

>>59662736
I feel like you are just lashing out for your own insecurities

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>>59662799
>earning more money than ever thanks to SJW bullshit
>supporting cutting edge technologies that even Google adopt
>anon still thinks it's "freefall"

>>59662846
calm down freud

>>59662799
>They made their CEO resign
Being a cuckservative in SF isn't the best idea as a CEO. As you can see, Brave is an utter lawsuit inducing bullshit, so you didn't lost much with him.

>>59662873
go outside and see normal people more often

>>59662884
Not him but do you realize he was poking funs at neckbeards with that image?

>>59662884
I'm better with paranormal people like you.

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>>59659993

>>59662780
Stop the fucking presses, "SJWs" are consistent with their politics and can choose to fire whoever they want from a privately owned company

>>59662799
Firefox has been in freefall since Google started hardcore shilling Chrome back in 2011 you dipshit

>>59662992
>it's okay to fire people based on discrimination
>unless it's because of their sex, gender, sexual orientation, color or race you bigot!

>>59662693
try the nightly, its friggin good son desu senpai famalam fa

>>59662948
I do not think neckbeards are that selfaware

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>>59662799
Eich resigned in April 2014. Notice it was in free fall loooooong before that.

Failfox was never good. Chrome took over from the start because it's objectively better.

Firefox is slow as fuck, but it's also not botnet. That said, I still use Firefox because it's what comes with Fedora by default and I have too many workstations to waste time migrating to something else.

>>59662972
Then why don't you use it?

>>59663026
Fuck chrome

>>59663019
Now you're the one who seems like lashing out for his own insecurities, anon. Why all that negativity and overdefensiveness for a joke?

>>59663015
>it's okay to fire people based on discrimination
Could you repeat that in English?

>>59663044
>ignore their argument
>focus on how they said it instead
liberals everyone

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>>59662992
>reeeeee leave my sjw browser alone!

If not Firefox, what will I use?

>>59663073
I don't even know what you're trying to say you retard, how do you fire someone "based on discrimination"? Do you mean because of discrimination? And fun fact, you can fire whoever you want for whatever reason you want from a privately owned company. Are you cucks really so thin skinned that you need to be protected under law for defending "family values"?

>>59663102
TempleOS

>>59663112
Just let them keep saying retarded shit.
It will make them less likely to breed anyway.

>>59659933
Good, firefox sucks. I stopped using it shortly after chrome came out because it was a superior browser and still is.

>>59663086
I'm not 14 so why would I care about muh SJWs boogeyman instead of which browser is better than the other? Chrome will always be shittier than Firefox until they fix their tab management, which isn't going to happen any time soon.

>>59663143
>SJWs boogeyman
buttmad SJW cuckold is trying to minimize the damage. kek

>>59663112
>I don't even know what you're trying to say you retard
>how do you fire someone "based on discrimination"?
>Do you mean because of discrimination?
So you do know what I mean and you just chose to nitpick one word out of autism. Ugh, can you not appropriate my word usage?

>And fun fact, you can fire whoever you want for whatever reason you want from a privately owned company
Except when it's done against muslims, right?
http://www.denverpost.com/2016/08/04/cargill-muslim-workers-colorado-labor-department/

Then it's bigoted shit and they deserve to sue the company for being racist assholes! UGH!

>>59663143
>firefox
>good
>better than chrome
>like sjws
Honestly people like this just need to go back to
>>>/r/lgbt

>>59663155
Why are you so obsessed with cucking, Tyrone?

>>59663188
are you a top or bottom?

>>59663157
Yup, you can fire whoever you want for whatever reason you want, just be prepared to face the consequences if you hire a bunch of Somalians who can't even read or speak English.

>Except when it's done against muslims, right?
Why would I give a shit? I'm not a Murrifat

>>59663247
I'm anything you want me to be bby ;)

Is there any lightweight browser that isn't a flavor of chrome or firefox that just werks? I don't need all the fancy pants features just want something that displays web pages correctly and doesn't use too much resources.

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>>59663261
>Yup, you can fire whoever you want for whatever reason you want
>e-e-except for muslims! and gays!

https://mic.com/articles/121496/one-map-shows-where-you-can-still-be-fired-for-being-gay-in-2015#.mzpzS1TAZ

>hehe n-not American!
Go ahead. Tell me what country you're from so I can expose your hypocrisy you fucking parasite.

>>59663268
I knew you took it in the ass. kek.

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here we go. These gaymergater threads needed this.

>>59663340
If someone has a pithier way of saying it, the edit window's still open.

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>>59663293
>Yup, you can fire whoever you want for whatever reason you want
Doesn't mean you won't face legal repercussions. But keep it up, if you cry hard enough then I'm sure your precious little government will start legally protect your feelings just because you think the gays are icky

>Go ahead. Tell me what country you're from so I can expose your hypocrisy you fucking parasite.
Pic related

>>59663365
>Doesn't mean you won't face legal repercussions.
That's the entire point you idiot. God you're dumb.

>it's only okay to make you face legal repercussions if you fire liberals!
That's your logic.

>>59663294
Only when it's your big black fat cock, Tyrone <3

>>59661894
>complains about anime on 4chan
>can't spell "faggot"

You are Sonic 06.

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>>59663365
>>59663261
>>59663112
>>59663188
>>59663268
>>59663383
>>59663340

>>59663380
Sorry, when did "I think the gays are icky" become a race, gender, sexuality or religion? I must've missed that memo.

>>59660121
Just get iridium, it's great. All the performance without the botnet, I switched from firefox, no regrets.

Except no damn auto scroll on linux, kinda salty about it, also the locations of the tabs opening is weird and inconsistent. I can live with that though.

>>59663425
>it's okay to discriminate against opinions
>not okay to discriminate against race, gender, sexuality or religion

>>59663143
>Chrome is shittier than Firefox
Looks like you're wrong, otherwise more people wouldn't be using IE.

>>59661065
V8 engine is so much better than gecko, I don't even understand how firefox is still competing.

>>59663459
Acting to empower government discrimination is not "an opinion."

>>59663462
>v8: JavaScript engine
>Gecko: web rendering engine

How are you even comparing the two?

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>>59662039
>Cyberfox
>Firefox
>Vivaldi
>edge
>Internet Explorer
Edge and ie simply because they come pre-installed and can't be removed without fucking everything up.
Also, if I can ever perform complete rice of chrome as easily as I can Firefox, maybe I'll use it.

>>59663365
>>59663425
Gays are not icky, they are mentally ill.

>>59663476
>it's okay to discriminate against people who discriminate against others
Is it okay for republicans to fire SJWs that hate white males?

>>59663459
>it's okay to discriminate against opinions
Of course it is you fucking retard, or do you want people to be able to sue because they don't like chocolate cake and that was the only thing they served at coffee break? And you're a big boy, I'm sure you can figure out for yourself why you don't need a law to protect the majority from the minority.

>>59663489
Only if they actively speak on it. Hate speech is hate speech regardless of who it is aimed at.

>>59663489
SJWs aren't discriminating against white males. "Not bowing to the patriarchy" is not "discrimination." You seem confused on this point.

>>59663488
Good, so then discrimination against gays is discrimination against the disabled instead of sexuality minorities. Not exactly helping your case.

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>>59663491
>take phrase out of context
>I win!

>>59663499
Well at least you aren't completely dogshit crazy.

>>59663504
pic related turd

Fuck me I dont wanna switch to 10 different processes using 40k ram each.

>>59663516
Manveer is clearly insane, and likely should be treated like all racists (by being ignored) but he was also let go from the company far before the release of Andromeda.

>>59663516
How is it taken out of context? That's literally what you said, that you shouldn't be allowed to discriminate against opinions. Where do you draw the line?

>>59659933
It's not the fact that FF is dying that bothers me; it's that the market is now entirely random versions of Webkit, all with wildly different levels of standards support.

Which means that now you need 1-10 mbyte of javascript polyfills if you want to reliably use any html standard introduced after 2008.

>>59660156
Use Brave instead

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>>59663504
What did zir mean by this?

>>59663552
No I was poking wholes in the logic of the following:

>it's okay to discriminate against opinions
>not okay to discriminate against race, gender, sexuality or religion

It's all or nothing. You don't get to cherry pick what's okay to discriminate against or not. By opinion, I was referring to political belief. Not spouting nonsense. You can't say it's not okay to discriminate against one subset, but then say it's okay to discriminate against another you hypocrite. All or nothing.

>inb4 pedophile, criminals, rapists, etc
Don't be stupid. A rep. is none of those.

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>>59659993
What the fuck is this color choice? Pink and green with a little black and red? Jesus Christ for a company that is supposed to be internet savvy, that color choice is fucking abhorrent.

>>59663512
>Not exactly helping your case.
That is where you are wrong. Mentally ill people does not know what is good for them and they have a distorted worldview by default. This would exclude you from academia (because you don't want to lose your welfare), politics (because nobody will listen to you) and many other cool things that should happen.

>>59663554
once FF dies, you'll need few less.

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So progressive!

>>59663587
Protecting the rights of others means protecting them from those who would take them away. There is no equality in tyranny, so tyrants are put down.

>>59663587
>You don't get to cherry pick what's okay to discriminate against or not
Again, of course you do, where do you draw the line otherwise? A law against discrimination wouldn't fill any purpose otherwise.

>You can't say it's not okay to discriminate against one subset, but then say it's okay to discriminate against another you hypocrite. All or nothing.
Okay, you shouldn't be allowed to discriminate against people who don't like chocolate cake. That's my political belief.

>>59663651
Yes! Fuck white men! SLAAAAY QUEEEEEN!

>>59663652
>where do you draw the line otherwise
Apparently the law is drawn where liberals want to draw it.

>Okay, you shouldn't be allowed to discriminate against people who don't like chocolate cake. That's my political belief.
Get half of America to agree with you and we'll make it happen.

>>59663599
>This would exclude you from academia (because you don't want to lose your welfare), politics (because nobody will listen to you) and many other cool things that should happen.
You might want to look up what high functioning and low functioning means

>>59663652
>draw the line
Hypocrite, it is only ok when you agree with it. Go fuck yourself trotskie.

>>59659993
did they get (((infiltrated))) or something holyfuck

>>59659933
she deserved it though.

>get more and more money
>browser gets worse and worse

it's impressive how inept mozilla is.

less market share = less government spying effort. Cool!

>>59663685
>Apparently the law is drawn where liberals want to draw it.
Yup, it's only liberals who actually passed third grade and knows what the words majority and minority means.

>Get half of America to agree with you and we'll make it happen.
I'm willing to bet that more than half of America believes in "traditional marriage"

>>59663688
My medic told me I am able to work for being a low functioning diarrhexual and a high functioning brokenbonexual. My schizophrenic friend told me space aliens exist, I have to agree with him otherwise I am discriminating against the disabled people.

>>59663685
>WAAAAH, IT'S NOT ABOUT ME!
Mhmm. You're a self-absorbed child. You didn't think the world was going to turn on your biased little fee fees, did you?

>>59663732
>I'm willing to bet that more than half of America believes in "traditional marriage"
Yep. And discriminating against half of America is perfectly fine to liberals. But discriminating against 1% of America isn't.

Really makes me think.

>>59663738
Not an argument.

>>59663761
It becomes an argument in the moment you act out on your hypocrisy though. You have spouted nonsense and wanted the world to abide by it and act righteous. Say shit, get hit.

>>59663736
You'd think people who advocate eugenics would actually have even a basic understanding of science, but apparently not

>>59659993
>???
>???
>???
>???
The future is here.

>>59663783
The fuck are you talking about?

>>59663710
>it's impressive how inept mozilla is.
They have ONE PRODUCT to work on yet their ONE PRODUCT is total fucking shit and the worst performing browser on the market.

Indeed, it's impressive how stupid these people are.

>>59663634
>whites being murdered and expropriated
>XDDDD luk we inetnet nao
JUST

>when /pol/lution ruin a thread

>>59663761
In order to not have tyranny you have to stop the tyrants. That's not "oppression."

>>59663888
>tyrants are people who disagree with me politically
Could have just said so from the start.

>>59663431
How's Iridium with streaming sites? I tried using Chromium, but there were some proprietary conflicts with stuff like Amazon Prime video and shit like that.

>>59663821
/g/ is autism central. Autists are prone to Nice Guyism, which generally devolves into the angry meninist.

>>59663761
Almost like you can't discriminate against opinions... Weird...

>Yep. And discriminating against half of America is perfectly fine to liberals.
I know right, the republican president, the majority republican congress and the majority republican senate are such liberal crybabies, ugh!

And just so we're up to snuff here, you're crying about it being discrimination that people don't agree with what more than half of what the American population, the American president, the American congress and the American senate think about an opinion that can be changed, but it's bad that you aren't allowed to discriminate the 1% for something they can't (generally) change?

>>59663905
>heterosexuals can join in a legally binding contract with each other
>homosexuals are denied the right to join in a legally binding contract with each other because heterosexuals want to feel special about their contract and they outnumber them

"THE HOMOSEXUALS ARE BEING TYRANTS ASKING FOR THE SAME RIGHTS!"

No wonder you guys need the government to protect your feefees if you think it's discrimination that there's people who don't agree with what more than half of the countries population and the US government thinks

>>59663935
Never said anything. I said you either fairly put up anti-discrimination values or you don't put any at all. Only saying it's bad to discriminate against things as according to your own political beliefs is hypocritical. Not everyone shares your opinion cupcake.

>>59663963
Nice strawman.

>>59663975
You think denying the tyranny of the large percentage of heterosexuals is "oppression." You're too dumb to recognize that it's they who want to oppress.
Gay marriage does not take away heterosexual marriage. Heterosexuals want to take away gay marriage. Guess which is the oppression of the other?

>>59663975
The anti discrimination values are fair because you can't discriminate against opinions. The entire purpose of discrimination laws is to protect the minority from the majority. Do you understand or do I have to talk even slower and bring my vocabulary down to a five year olds level?

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>>59659933
>implying hundreds of neckbeards won't be pulling the source into text editors and rage forking the fuck out of it
You obviously don't know anything about the free and open source software community.

>>59663998
Marriage isn't a right.

>it's my belief that marriage is a union against man and woman not man and man
>this is tyranny!
Seriously? Call it something else and make the same thing. You don't have to have marriage which has traditionally been man and woman. Let them have their tradition if they want it. Is it okay to go to an Islamic tradition and demand our woman not wear hijabs?

>>59664008
So if republicans became the minority would it suddenly stop being okay to discriminate against them?

>>59663791
Surprise motherfucker, it works the same way when it comes to what is alive and what is not, talk about science.

>>59663651
freedom of speech is equal to being a tyrant, you cant act with violence against free speech

>>59662743
Stupid frogposters

>>59659933
This is kind of sad, and also alarming

Chrome is taking over. Soon, there will be no competition, and Google will be able to get away with whatever it wants

We have to do something

Everyone all together let's install gentoo and use vivaldi only with no javascript and no flash who's with me

>>59664059
How would it stop when it has never started? Being gay/black/a woman/a downie/a muslim/etc etc isn't a "political belief", saying that "marriage is a union against man and woman not man and man" is. And right now you can't be discriminated against for being a republican or democrat, unless emperor Trump wants to change that with how thin skinned you babies are.

>>59664059
>Marriage isn't a right.
It's the law, though. We have these little things called the First and Fourteenth Amendments which prohibit the establishment of religion (so you can't call one religious group supreme and discriminate against all others) and unequal treatment under the law.

>>59663112
>can't understand basic English.
Shit man you must be well down the ideological k-hole.

>>59664140
>complete ignores my argument

>Being gay/black/a woman/a downie/a muslim/etc etc isn't a "political belief", saying that "marriage is a union against man and woman not man and man" is.
>saying that "marriage is a union against man and woman not man and man" is.
No. Marriage has historically been a union of man and woman and came from religion. Wanting to change that is a political opinion.

Stop ignoring my arguments:
>Is it okay to go to an Islamic community and demand our woman not wear hijabs?

>>59664161
Relevance? If anything that's worse for making a religious ceremony have to accept gays despite this violating their religion.

>>59664134

Chrome has basically won. I don't really like it but I recommend it to anyone because it's just better for people who browse the web 'casually'

>>59660016
Why is Chrome higher than Safari? Most smartphone users have iphones. Why wouldn't they just use the default browser?

>>59664059
>Call it something else and make the same thing.
It isn't the same thing unless it is the same thing. People will use any distinction they can as grounds to discriminate. People even use the color of a person's skin, if you can believe it! You'd think that "being human" would be enough for everyone to treat each other equally, but apparently not.

>>59659957
they were slow to get better.
I switched to chrome fucking years ago I think with browser 22 or 28 was the last time I used it.

chrome could handle multimedia, firefox was a stuttering mess that was slow as fuck to boot.

I gave up a good deal of customizability, really wish I could turn material off as its so fucking shit, but the overall experience with chrome is better... sadly now I need to get 32gb of ram because chrome eats it like nothing else.

>>59664200
So by your logic you should be okay with white people appropriating the culture's of minorities, yes?

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>>59659993
That really does explain things, doesn't it.

>>59664174
The United States has incorporated secular marriage into its legal structure, and it cannot discriminate. To say two consenting adult heterosexuals can enter into this legally binding contract but two consenting adult homosexuals cannot is discriminating against homosexuals by denying them the same privilege as everyone else.

Their marriage does not oppress heterosexuals who are against it, it is the heterosexuals who are against it who want to oppress homosexuals.

>>59664174
Your arguments have already been picked apart, you're saying that it has to be "all or nothing" when there's shit all that says it has to be like that and the line has to be drawn somewhere. Right now it's being drawn at things you can't change versus things you can change.

>No. Marriage has historically been a union of man and woman and came from religion
Sorry bub but marriage existed in ancient Greece and Rome. Jesus didn't invent society as we know it today.

>Wanting to change that is a political opinion.
How convenient that whatever you believe is just the way things are and not political at all. Newsflash: everything is political

>Is it okay to go to an Islamic community and demand our woman not wear hijabs?
If it becomes the law like gay marriage is, then sure.

>>59664297
Nope. Just call it something else. There's no reason you need to use the term "marriage" which is a Christian tradition. You're stomping on the rights of traditional Christians. Call it something else and give it the same rights.

>>59664306
>Your arguments have already been picked apart
Not an argument.

>line has to be drawn somewhere.
Which is where your political beliefs lie conveniently. Imagine that!

>Right now it's being drawn at things you can't change versus things you can change.
Not an argument.

>Sorry bub but marriage existed in ancient Greece and Rome.
That's fine. We're not Greece or Rome.

>How convenient that whatever you believe is just the way things are and not political at all. Newsflash: everything is political
Wrong.

>If it becomes the law like gay marriage is, then sure.
>appeal to law
Not an argument.

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>>59661894

>>59664341
>There's no reason you need to use the term "marriage" which is a Christian tradition.
It's put into law that way. The only way to prohibit gays from marriage is to deny everyone marriage.

>>59664377
So you're not okay with any discrimination, correct? Except if it's discriminating against political beliefs that don't agree with yours such as how this chain got started.

Do you not see your hypocrisy?

>you can't discriminate against gays!
>you can discriminate against conservative values!
What?

>>59664341
>the term "marriage" which is a Christian tradition

>marry (v.)
>c. 1300, "to give (offspring) in marriage," from Old French marier "to get married; to marry off, give in marriage; to bring together in marriage," from Latin maritare "to wed, marry, give in marriage" (source of Italian maritare, Spanish and Portuguese maridar), from maritus (n.) "married man, husband," of uncertain origin, originally a past participle, perhaps ultimately from "provided with a *mari," a young woman, from PIE root *mari- "young wife, young woman," akin to *meryo- "young man" (source of Sanskrit marya- "young man, suitor").

>>59664420
>muh dictionary proves tradition wrong
Fuck all traditions of every culture and religion because the dictionary says otherwise, right?

>n-no only christians...

>>59660016
>firefox
>download picture
>clear internet history
>picture is removed from my downloads

yup, firefox is sure trash on mobile

>>59664436
What's your point, even? Why do you want to make out marriage as a strictly Christian tradition? Literally every non-modern culture has a tradition of man/woman marriage.

>>59664452
My point is it's so convenient of the left to say things like this:

>being against gay marriage is tyranny and oppression!
>being against conservative values is good and should be encouraged!
It's hypocrisy.

>>59664485
>>being against gay marriage is tyranny and oppression!
>>being against conservative values is good and should be encouraged!
>It's hypocrisy.
I agree, but how is your case helped by making the term "marriage" into something it isn't?

>>59664498
Honestly I've forgotten why I was making that point. I think it was a callback and how a lot of liberals are fine with alienating christian tradition but don't want muslim tradition touched, even when it violates the rights of women and children.

>>59664438
Can confirm. Still use it since it has adblock though.

>>59663408
I might actually fap to this later

>>59660821
Google is smart enough to not fire people based on their political views.

Does anyone here remember when Firefox 4.0 was released?

>>59663932
Those aren't autists, those are just retards. Autists aren't self-aware.
Retards != autists (true)

>>59664415
Stopping tyrants is not tyranny, no matter how much they like being tyrants and don't want to stop.

>>59664625
i thought it was doing well back then

>>59664630
>discriminating against gays is tyranny
>discriminating against people who don't share my political beliefs isn't
The hypocrisy of the liberal.

>>59664658
You don't understand equality, and think that giving a tyrant freedom to enslave another is the same as being free from slavery.

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After having read the thread you all come across as retards.

kys

>>59664691
After having read your post, you come across as literally having down syndrome.

>>59664689
Not an argument.

>>59664727
Try this:
You want the freedom to have your stuff and shitpost on the internet.
I have lots of guns. I'm feeling like shooting you and taking your stuff.

Is stopping me "oppression"? I said I want to do it, and to stop me is prevent me from what I want to do. You're taking away muh freedom. If you believe in freedom, I should have the freedom to shoot you, no? To say you can have your freedom and I can't have mine is the greatest hypocrisy.

>>59664807
False equivalence.

>>59664825
The difficulty you're having is in detecting who has the power over others. You think that having sufficient power to remove someone else's oppressive power is the same as oppressing them. So we need some examples that illustrate that THIS IS NOT THE CASE.

>>59660036
THIS. They started gutting addons and customizability and integrating shit that almost no one wants (pocket, firefox hello). Firefox has always had a good power user market share due to it being a relatively simple web browser with a billion addons so you could customize it to your liking but with this recent trend of producing whole environments instead of products (eg Microsoft with onedrive and windows 10 and Microsoft music or whatever and even some open source products like how GNOME calls Nautilus GNOME files now) lots of open source projects are trying to create environments instead of creating technically superior software with tons of customizability.

Killed a vast amount of their plugins with the new UI. Wasn't a good start since the plugins was the main attraction for users and Devs.

>>59664844
>le power meme
Racism = bigotry + oppression right?

>Reeeeee chrome uses too much ram

Just download more ram dipshits

>>59664880
It's meaningless without power.

I use firefox on my netbook, desktop, and android phone...

Whats a good alternative thats ultra-ultra light, but still has adblock, video-download-helper(or equiv, so i can download all my porn from streaming sites) and mail extensions? I can *REALLY* feel my netbook struggling with firefox(some sites literally take 60+ seconds to load, and give me warnings about scripts failing to load)

Update 52.0.x broke the embedded pdf reader. It's the last straw, my company is moving everything to Chrome.

>>59664904
Yeah, fuck white people and fuck Drumpf

To be honest, edge has taken a great leap in to more js based application platforms. If a company like Firefox were to go that route they'd earn so much respect for the sheer speed and usability.

>>59664943
Fuck women too. With their majority of the population.

>>59664943
It's whites who have used their power over the government to have it oppress others and sent privilege their way. And you think stopping them is "oppression" LOL.

>>59664197
Because most smartphone users don't have iPhones.

>>59664904
Yeah, those poor powerless africans who tortured that white kid? Totally not racist.

The hoards of africans literally murdering white farmers in south africa and Zimbabwe? They're just misguided.

I wonder if these revisionist SJW idiots realize their patronizing downplaying of any action a black person does(denying them "full agency" in their marxist retard-speak) is a great example of them being legitimately racist in the most overt way(denying them the responsibility every adult human has... Instead treating them like a dog with brain damage who just dosent know any better than to not shit on the carpet/brutally murder and rape white women)

>>59664983
>no other race of people have oppressed others besides whites
(You)

>>59664997
And? Do you live in Zimbabwe?

>>59664983
How is the government oppressing non-whites?

>>59664983
yeah, like affirmative action... Whites who are interested in their own best racist interests would TOTALLY put up huge racist road blocks for their fellow whites...

There is institutional racism in our society. The institutions blatantly oppose white straight men. You can balk at that or try to laugh it off, but apply for any govt position in the west and near the end you'll have to check a box that asks if you qualify as a "diversity hire". Wonder why that needs to be asked... Wonder if them expressly saying they want to have a diverse workforce works in my(a white guy) favor.

>>59665028
Guilty until proved innocent ring a bell?

>>59659993
Holy fuck, this is just a browser. Who cares how retarded they are on (((social issues)))

>>59665046
Sure. It applies no matter your race. What's your point?

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>>59664807
What the fuck nigger and I thought you were merely baiting, you actually believe this shit and you are derailing this thread with your nonsense.
Go back to >>>/pol/, society can fuck itself for all I care, including you.

You guys are retarded. At least Mozilla fought to protect our internet freedoms by trying to stop DRM and anti-free standards into the W3 standard. That is good enough to use and continue supporting Mozilla.

>>59665041
> "We white conservatives totally aren't racist! See these liberals over there?"

>>59665023
what does that matter? You're the one arguing blacks are too stupid and powerless to have power to be racist. Zimbabwe, Chicago, South africa, Louisiana, etc... all prove that is hilariously not the case. I mean they might be stupid(boils down to the individual) but thanks you retards like you, even Oprah or Obama are poor weak oppressed minions of the white nationalist patriarchy... Regardless of how much political power or wealth they amass. They'll always be the 'house negro' to you, and thus are absolved of anything they do... Because *YOU* think everyone else is racist(look in the mirror)...

>>59665051
Many care looking at those stats. I don't mind a company having opposing political views. But when they effect others (like getting fired over political views) that's a little too far.

>>59665064
Guilty until proved innocent applies to whites? Pretty sure we've implemented innocent until proven guilty. It's quite nice.

>>59665085
No. That's the implementation by the UN's human rights. Applies to all humans by all partaking nations. Though American constitution doesn't align with some areas of these rights so they dismiss them for constitutional rights.

>>59665081
Tell me how blacks in Zimbabwe have power over the laws of the United States.

>>59665073
I'm not a conservative. I'm a gay white moderate(I WAS a liberal up until about 2011... Then the SJW BS pushed me to the center. I am more disgusted by the shit most fags and hippies say than what the typical far right winger says.)

>>59663700
The old CEO got fired for donating to an anti-gay marriage organization.

>>59665106
>center
You're completely self-centered. That's full on conservative.

>>59665106
Not too far from myself. Bisexual white male classical liberal (not new age progressivism cancerous liberal). Issue is the political stage has drifted so far left. That anything that was once central left is now seen to be right winged.

>>59665102
>Hurrr, i only have american-centric view! I *LITERALLY* can not understand the world exists outside of the borders!!!

Also, again, Chicago, Louisiana, Detroit... Go ask some whites how they feel about living there... Or how them taking issue with it and leaving(called 'white flight') is somehow atributed to racism.. How the FUCK can someone make that claim and not feel fucking ridiculous. Are whites indebt to the incoming rush of blacks, to deal with their BS and keep their own property nice so the neighboring communities are sought after by other people?(but if thats the case, its called "gentrification"! Theres no fucking winning when you have SJW's and entitled blacks)

>>59665116
Based off a half dozen posts on /g/, dealing directly with identiy politics? Heres a newsflash for you: I consider you a shitty person based off your positions on that issue too! My assessment of that is based off a general understanding of whats fair... not being in debt to another person based off our racial difference(which btw, makes you a racist in the literal sense)

>>59660070
>gotta be able to access sad panda somehow on my phone

>>59665069
>society can fuck itself for all I care
very edgy, watch out senpai

>>59665127
>liberal
>faggot
>attention whore
top kek

>>59665196
Semi-faggot. Get it right.

>>59665174
Everyone's a racist, moron. The only question is whether you have the tools to recognize it and counter it. If you don't, that's when you get called "a racist" as you're actually embodying racial bias.

>>59665238
>denial
you enjoy shoving things in your butt, you're a faggot

>>59665327
And i enjoy shoving it in a cunt too. I'm not denying that I'm fine with taking though. Denial? Denied.

>>59665338
still a faggot, probably pedophile too

>>59665377
When you assume you make an ass of u and me.

>>59665388
definitely a faggot keke

>>59665416
Still not insulting.

>>59665317
If you have ANY tools that cause harm or discomfort to others than your racism has consequences.

Me calling a random black person a Nigger has less impact than, say, 3 black guys gang raping a girl and slashing her face up... according to reasonable people. To garbage like you, they're poor manipulated negro's who dont know better, and thus victims of systemic racism that pushed them to rape and mutilate that woman.

Take a few moments and reflect on your ideology. Clue into the fact that you're far more racist than the KKK. The KKK hated black people because of what they did or how they looked, or whatever BS reason. YOU on the other hand deny them their humanity. You dont even acknowledge their own free-will or sentience....

>>59665082
They laid off people in favor of hiring cheaper pajeets, justifying it with social justice to look progressive.

The only meaning of these stats is that Chrome took FF's share, and the reason it that Chrome is Google's product. It's called competition.

>>59665485
Yea so it's a nonissue. The justification for firing the CEO though was the donations to anti gay marriage orgs though.

>>59665499
Well, yeah, that's social climate in the US of A, if you haven't noticed yet.

>>59665446
>If you have ANY tools that cause harm or discomfort to others than your racism has consequences.
A range of self-absorption has to be allowed because you cannot trust others to look out for yourself as well as you can. It only really becomes an issue when individuals congregate as a group and decide to hold off trying to oppress each other while they oppress someone else, or when one person has an excessive concentration of power and so their excesses cannot be restrained or avoided.

>Me calling a random black person a Nigger has less impact than, say, 3 black guys gang raping a girl and slashing her face up... according to reasonable people. To garbage like you, they're poor manipulated negro's who dont know better, and thus victims of systemic racism that pushed them to rape and mutilate that woman.

You, and 60% of the population call them a nigger. You, and 60% of the population - who have concentrated 99% of the power unto themselves - deny them a job. You, and 60% of the population who have concentrated 99% of the power unto themselves -- deny them loans for housing. You, and 60% of the population who have concentrated 99% of the power unto themselves - leave them no opportunity but criminality. You, and 60% of the population who have concentrated 99% of the power unto themselves - then deride them for not abiding by your laws. You, and 60% of the population who have concentrated 99% of the power unto themselves, tell them to go back home and stop complaining when they protest their conditions, even though you do nothing but complain and you fully expect immediate action for YOUR every little grievance.

Get rid of the institutionalized racism, THEN you can complain. You don't get to use their reactions to your oppression to justify your oppression.

>>59663963
>they outnumber them
but thats pretty much it, isnt it

if 90% of the population of planet Htrae were pedophiles, suddenly your 10yo daughter gets home from school saying shes getting married tomorrow with the janitor, so they can have sex (in this reality sex is illegal for singles), you cant do shit, even though your personal beliefs tell you she's not mature enough to make such decision, you also can't held her at home because she's considered an adult at 10yo and that would be false imprisonment.

but i digress, good thing we leave on planet Earth instead, where children aren't allowed on most societies to make some life changing decisions, not even if parents were to endorse it, its simply not an option... unless its cutting their dicks.

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>>59665922
Good thing for you, somebody tried and failed horribly. Despite his fuck ups, he is still the only nigger worth of respect because he has done awesome shit, like telling the UN to fuck off.
Not in America or Europe though, you are all welfare queens.

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>>59661973
>fullscreen the page on 1080p monitor
>still don't see anything about Firefox
I bet people see a page full of diversity, think they went to the wrong website, and leave.