Did i get ripped off?

>>59658101
If you have to ask then the answer is always yes.

Fat fuck

>>59658101
I can't help but lel seeing that
So this is how you make money

Holy shit 85 an hour? I'm in the wrong line of work

>disabled automatic sleep mode

What? Why?

>>59658165
you don't want your SSD's disks stopping do you? it takes time for them to start up again so it's slower

they forgot to download more ram op

>>59658187
I doubt it matters. Besides if it doesn't sleep it just drains battery quicker

Everything they said about capacitors is 100% BS. They're either using the wrong words to describe something they did or they just made it all up to add filler to the invoice.

>>59658101
>manually drained capacitor
kek

85 an hour is very cheap labor
you got ripped off because you paid someone to fix your own shit

>diagnosed slow hard drive.
This takes a trained professional , putting those $$ to work op

>>59658101
>Drained capacitor
He what.

>>59658233
lol this faggot has never even seen a capacitor

>$25 tax
lmao how is life in commiefornia?

>>59658261
capacitors have electricity stored in them retard
whens something fucks up usually a capacitor has to be drained
this only takes about half a second to do though

>>59658101
300 fucking USD. LMAO.

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>>59658101
no op you did good :^)

>>59658275
What the FUCK did he mean by this.

>>59658101
> manually drained capacitor

Wat?

Why the fuck why did you not install the SSD yourself? Also, what kind of fucking fix is "disabled sleep state"?

I don't think this is you, but the guy who got this DID get ripped off.

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>>59658101
>This really drains my capacitors

>>59658275
I know, but, why?

>>59658101
yes

I think the worst part is that they actually replaced the ssd, but they managed to clone his old one. Wouldn't that mean that the one that got replaced was actually functional?

>>59658101
what capacitor? where? $85!!!!! you could've just bought the damned drive and plugged it in yourself! I would go back and ask what fucking capacitor they are speaking of.

Forgetting to drain capacitors is what causes infections.

>>59658302
kek

>>59658101
>Did i get ripped off?
f you don't know how to do simple shit, the answer is no.

Gig gud faggit

>>59658275

You realize a capacitor a) does not hold the charge very long b) cannot hold more charge than the specs anyway.

How the fuck does this make a difference and if the capcitor is broken (very real possibility, but somehow I doubt these guys did anything even related to capacitors) how does "draining" it as oppoed to replacing the component help.?

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>>59658275
Ok fucktard but at what point does he actually repair the problem with the sleep state? All he does is disable automatic sleep mode. He'd need to replace the bad cap. Which obviously didn't happen so he paid the guy $170 to clone a HDD to SSD and disable sleep mode.

>tfw i wiped and reinstalled windows, installed a second storage drive for him, and wrote a 2 page readme for a computer illiterate and only made 50 bucks

>niggers don't drain their capacitors weekly
does /g/ even know anything about computers?

>>59658317
I think they cloned an HDD on to the SSD

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>>59658101
Someone send this to Louis.

>>59658160
Well, its not like the tech's get that. They are probably paid like 20 an hour, or less.

>>59658349
I helped a guy plug in his wireless keyboard and mouse, and connect his iPhone to his home wifi and got paid $20.

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>>59658352
I'm gonna drain my capacitors inside ur mom u cheeky shit.

>>59658367
You got hustled son, I would've charged at least $40

HAHAHAHAH THEY INSTALLED A HARD DRIVE AND MADE UP BS LOL
>this is standard business practice

>>59658101
I'm curious, what brand of SSD did they install, OP. I bet they made a profit off that as well.

>>59658385
>in america

>>59658379
Wait shit, he did actually end up giving me $40 now that I recall

>>59658371
I bet you are the kind of shitposter that thinks Nvidia is gimping drivers
maybe you should try draining your capacitors before benchmarking

>tfw it would be illegal to do this sort of shit here
I'd be a fucking millionaire if I lived in the Land of the Free.

>>59658425
driver gimping is not a meme

>>59658425
Newfag here, how do you drain capacitors

>inb4 lurk more

>>59658446
It could soon be illegal here if someone wise enough challenged them in some civil suit or something.

>>59658451
this. do they literally use a voltage meter on each capacitor like louis rossmann?

>manually drain capacitors

Do capacitors not drain themselves when power is not supplied?

>>59658261
When you don't discharge a capacitor in a power supply, it can easily electrocute you, as they are usually charged with 110V/220V and take days in discharging because no load to discharge them.

So you discharge them with a little resistor to operate on the power supply.

>>59658467
Yeah, but that would only result in banning the draining of capacitors. Not ripping off customers.
USA USA USA

>>59658473
They slowly lose charge over time. There are quick drains in CRT capacitors because they have the potential to fucking kill you.

>>59658101
>240 gib ssd
>$99
>all of that bullshit "technical" rhetoric
>$300 for everything
sounds like a great deal, for the tech support that is. As for you OP, congratulations for being technically illiterate and funding these people.

>>59658524
storage drives are not power supplies, retard

>>59658101
By the way,
>Incorrect voltages on a capacitor
They were messing in your power supply for some reason.

>Diagnosed slow hard drive
Smells like bullshit.

Welp, it's your money so I don't care.

>>59658473
No. The power has nowhere to go and thus slowly dissipates. But this shit is dumb, just put a resistor to it and it drains in a second. Not worth more than 5 bucks tops.

>>59658349
I charge $15 for that.

>>59658562
>They slowly lose charge over time
If you consider a second or two slow, then OK.

>>59658603
You're not getting paid enough.

>>59658579
It would make no sense to have the capacitors manually discharged then.

Yes, you could have easily googled or had a tech savy friend complete the work. You could have spent $0.

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>tfw forgot to drain my capacitors

>>59658615
I am from a third world country to.

>Incorrect voltages on a capacitor
A super quick drain, but worse of they didn't actually fix the problem, something overcharged that cap. unless they're just making it up.

>Diagnosed slow hard drive
Something they probably do on all hdd machines, just to get to sell a ssd and add another hour of labour or two. Obviously not the problem with the machine, they really should ask you first before demanding you pay.

Basically, pretty much all computer repairs are con artists in this way.

>>59658594
>Not worth more than 5 bucks tops.

Resister $0.05.
Where to put the resistor? $200.00

If the computer can sleep now, or not, you got a good repair.

I would have charged $175.

Everyone else can just fuck off.

>>59658639
Thank god that software audit is not a thing here.

>>59658101
You can't buy ssd youself?

>>59658608
No. A big capacitor can hold on to a charge for several hours. Aside from that, it's always safe practice to make sure it's drained first. Respect electricity.

>>59658661
>Where to put the resistor? $200.00
No.

> diagnosed incorrect voltages on a capactior
> manually drained capacitor
W H A T D I D H E M E A N B Y T H I S ?

>>59658627
or be a good friend and at least buy him a pizza for doing it

>>59658799
or u could be cheap and make bean stew for him or give him the succ

This is why you look for freelance computer techs, he would have charged you like $100 for labor.

>>59658770
>>59658294
Capacitors store voltage even after disconnected from power. They will slowly leak the voltage out over time due to imperfect conditions.

Fuck off and stop samefagging your stupid /tv/ meme.

>>59658261
He unplugged the computer and pressed the power button a few times to get rid of the remaining charge. That's worth 89 an hour.

I charge 89 an hour for a simple clone job like that. Everything before the actual cloning just seems like techno mumbo jumpbo desu. Remember that I might only be paid 15 bucks an hour, but that 89 dollars covers the time I stand around doing nothing in between customers as well. + My employer have to cover losses made through sales, electricity, and insurance.

>>59658961
You don't seem like a dumbfuck, what's stopping you from becoming self employed?

>>59658101
>(((Diagnosed))) slow hard drive

Op here.
Laptop is at least alot faster now.
Everything is super snappy.

Use to take 4 minutes to boot, now its like 30 seconds max.

>>59658101
So, what did they do? Held the power button down for a moment while unplugged and sold you an ssd you didn't ask for?

>>59658101
How large was your original drive?

>>59659101
30 seconds is still long with an ssd.

>>59658101
You could have just bought a new lappy

>>59658258
>85 an hour is very cheap labor
Not really, plenty of smaller shops survive just fine on ~$25-40 an hour.

>>59659160
750gb

And holding down power button did nothing. Battery was internal so i couldn't unplug it.

>>59659176
If it's Windows it depends how much he's bogged it down. If it's Mac or Linux then it's definitely still pretty long.

>>59658101
Big time.

>>59659302
>Battery was internal so i couldn't unplug it.
Jesus.

Take the fucking back off, and unplug it there you complete idiot. How do you function in life? What kind of low-paying job do you do?

>>59658160
I make double that

>>59659330
Your company does.*

>>59658981
I don't want to deal with customers on my own. Especially private individuals. The kind of abuse they can throw your way for daring to charge as little as 20 dollars for 15-30 minutes of your time is soul crushing.

Maybe dealing with businesses is better.

>>59658472
literally just short them with a screwdriver ffs

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>>59658101
oh my fucking god. you paid 170$ for a hard drive swap. literally one of the most basic things...you didnt even get to choose your hard drive i bet either

>>59658165
Hibernate fucks with SSD's longevity, because it constantly reads and writes

>>59658101
>bad sleep state
>incorrect voltages on a capacitor
>manually drained capacitor
>disabled automatic sleep mode
yeah you fucked up

>>59659391
hibernate != sleep

>>59658472
the "pro" way is to give them a load, like a lightbulb or led, but you can just short them with anything basically.

>>59659391
He said sleep not hibernate

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>>59658961
>He unplugged the computer and pressed the power button a few times to get rid of the remaining charge.
>That's worth 89 an hour.
kek

>>59659391
Longevity isn't really a big concern with modern SSDs in normal use.

>>59658160
those niggers barely get any work though

does anyone even fucking use hibernate? hell i barely use sleep, only on laptop when i shut the lid

i literally don't see the point when your pc boots in 5 seconds. hibernate is such a pain in the ass and comes with all kinds of trouble

>>59659390
Not to mention that the SSD was probably lying in a pile of junk from other "repairs".

>>59659302
>>59659322
SATA is designed to be hotplugged. Your system might not be able to deal if you replace the drive while it is turned on, but nothing bad should happen. Replacing a drive while the computer is turned on, but still having your battery hooked up is a total non-issue.

Lots of computers today are sold with drive bays that are easy to access, but the battery itself isn't easy to remove.

>>59659441
because they're lazy niggers.

>>59659357
I'm a consultant, so sure my company does? which is just me?

>>59658294
he doesn't know what he's talking about

>>59659438
If you hibernate every day, or multiple times per day, you will write significantly more data to the drive than with normal use.

>>59658649
>unless they're just making it up
exactly.

According to this invoice they determined that one of the hundreds of capacitors in the machine had an "incorrect voltage" before even disassembling the computer, and then they drained it (presumably by shorting it with pliers, lol) and considered it fixed.

1) If there was actually a capacitor at an incorrect voltage then something else had to be wrong to get that capacitor to the point where it was.
2) It would require fairly deep knowledge of the specifics of the motherboard to know whether each capacitor was operating within its expected limits. (This goes beyond just checking the component specs, you'd have to know the purpose of each one in the system as a whole.)

In short like I said here >>59658233 it's all BS they're just using to fill the invoice. Nobody is going to waste hours testing individual components on a motherboard, and anyone saying they do here is either trolling or ripping other people off with the same type of language.

>manually drained capacity
Someone wrote this down.
Fucking priceless.

>>59659493
http://techreport.com/review/27436/the-ssd-endurance-experiment-two-freaking-petabytes
At least if that article is to be believed, even cheap SSDs should last hundreds of terabytes written. So writing few tens of gigabytes extra per day should have negligible impact.

>>59659583
capacitor*
Fuck, I should not write while I am laughing.

>>59659493
Throw away the SSD from 2008.

>>59659600
>So writing few tens of gigabytes extra per day should have negligible impact.

20GB x 365 = 7.3TB.

>>59659621
But it still works because I disabled hibernation!

>>59659441
maybe if they lowered their prices, they would.

>>59659633
Literally one percent of the endurance.

>>59658275
85 an hour to drain a cap
goddam
this really activates my almonds

>>59659633
>7.3 Terabytes per year.
>SSD's should last hundreds of terabytes written

200TB / 7.3 TB per year = 27.39 years

>>59658233
correctamundo

no service manual will give you any details about what voltages should appear on which capacitor and it's not like computer repair technician baboons would know how to reverse engineer a circuit
bullshit in its purest form

>>59658881
>they will leak voltage
kill yourself you uneducated mongrel

>>59659600
>>59659633
>>59659694
I knew some retard who couldnt do math would fall for this. lel

it seems hard to be in a computer repair business.

either the work is way too fucking easy and you're basically scamming old ladies and retards.

or the rare occasion it's impossibly hard that you need a degree in comp engineering to decipher, AND you need to order some obscure part that's like 1mm big.

>>59659672
>one percent
And? You think killing your drives lifespan by one perfect a year is a good thing? Just don't do it. There's literally no reason to subject your SSD to that.

>>59659694
You're also using your drive alongside that. It's a big waste that serves no purpose.

>>59659728
It's true.

>>59659742
>either the work is way too fucking easy and you're basically scamming old ladies and retards.
ive always wondered what a fair price for shit like this is.

it doesnt seem worth 90 an hour but its not worth 10 an hour either considering how little work you get even if your prices are dirt cheap.

>>59659742
barely anyone does component level computer repair and even those that do mostly repair the same things most of the time
there is no such thing as obscure components on computer hardware

>>59659778
yeah i have been thinking about running a repair ad in the newspaper, but figuring out price is difficult.

i can fix most shit, but i also don't want to be the guy that has to tell them they need 200$ in parts to fix it.

i would 30$ish an hour is fair, but eh

>>59659763
>And? You think killing your drives lifespan by one perfect a year is a good thing?
It's a completely and utterly irrelevant thing. Either way the drive will fail for other reasons far before endurance becomes an issue.

>>59659763
>significantly reducing convenience for the sake of slightly improving your drive's life expectancy
how about no

>It's true.
what's true?

>>59659808
yeah fair point, but even louis has to order a bunch of boards just for 1 style of computer, (Apple)

I can't imagine doing just a full on pc shop, ordering different screens and boards for hundreds of models. That's probably why no one does it.

>>59659846
how is hibernation even that convenient, it works like shit on all different computers i've tried it on. it's no better than just rebooting.

>>59659844
What you're doing is equivalent of going into your garage, grabbing a hammer and taking a few good whacks at a support beam and saying: "Look, this thing could take ten thousand hits before it'd fail, there's nothing wrong with me doing this". It's stupid and disrespectful to your hardware.

>>59659846
Explain to me how hibernation is convenient with a SSD.

>what is
That capacitors leak voltage. Every.Single. One. It's referred to as voltage drop in the electrical industry of which I am apart of.

>>59659883
I put my computer into sleep and it automatically goes into hibernation when it is left like that for more than an hour or two
I can then just boot it back up and continue where I left

>>59658539
it makes me sad how accurate this is

>>59659954
Sleep != hibernation retard. Sleeping your SSD is perfectly fine.

>>59659883
>>59659922
I don't know what shitty hardware you've been using, but hibernating is pretty damn convenient if you can't just put your computer to sleep(or want the battery to last longer, for instance). It takes about as long as booting, except when it's done you already have all the shit you were doing last time open and ready to use. How is that not infinitely more convenient than rebooting?

>>59658589
>client complains that transfers run ~12MB/s
>his wife's new laptop transfers things up to ~250MB/s
>diagnosis: he's running a 5400rpm LAPTOP DRIVE
>>>"Diagnosed: Slow Drive"

>>59659922
capacitors leak charge, you retarded dipshit, the voltage drops as a result of that
the same way a dam can leak water and not water level

you don't work in the electronics industry and you never will
voltage drop is something completely different

kindly fuck off

>>59659985
By your own argument, you should never sleep your computer because it causes wear on the battery.

>drained capacitor
Lmao thats like saying
>manually unscrewed 4 ssd case screws

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>>59659985
read my post again, the whole thing

>>59659742
>scamming old ladies and retards.
Not really. If you can't do something and you pay someone who can do it easily, you're getting a valuable service.

>>59660048
this, most people can't make mortar mix or even properly lay down a brick with a trowel so I get paid to do that.

So, $300 for unplugging the battery for a few seconds and upgrading hdd to ssd.

And sleep mode can cause issues with some computers where it fails to turn on randomly.

And this seattle area were the work was done.

>>59659990
>but hibernating is pretty damn convenient if you can't just put your computer to sleep
When would this ever happen? You can hibernate it but not sleep it? Name a single time this scenario happens naturally.

>or want the battery to last longer, for instance
Then plug it in you tool. If you aren't going to use your laptop for so long that it would die in sleep mode, then just fucking plug it in. You're talking days of non-use.

>How is that not infinitely more convenient than rebooting?
That's not the argument. The argument is why hibernate instead of sleep. The only argument is power saving but that's a non-issue with modern laptops and periods of < several days of non-use on battery.

>>59660022
>capacitors leak charge
There is no such thing as "charge". There's voltage, ampacity and resistance. Charge is a very informal term for voltage.

Your childish grammar suggests I'm wasting my time on you, however.

>>59660027
It causes less wear on your battery then non-stop use.

>>59660090
>It causes less wear on your battery then non-stop use.
More than hibernating it. AND your battery is almost guaranteed to die faster than the SSD.

>>59660109
Your battery is also cheaper than a SSD and doesn't contain your data. Upgrading your battery is something you will have to do no matter what if you plan on using your laptop for a long time. Upgrading your SSD is not something you plan to do. It's something you can transfer to your next laptop when it has reached EOL.

>>59660090
>When would this ever happen?
When you run low on battery and the system hibernates to save your work.

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>>59660090
>There is no such thing as "charge". There's voltage, ampacity and resistance. Charge is a very informal term for voltage.

There's someone who might want to have a word with you.

>>59660159
Do you feel in charge?

>>59660143
The amount of time this happens is insignificant next to daily unnecessary hibernation. Obviously, having hibernation as a last resort if your battery somehow drains itself to less than 5% is a good thing to have. But over-reliance on this instead of proper charging is poor practice.

>>59660159
I'm sorry sir but your archaic word choice is no longer relevant in the electrical industry.

>>59658881
Capacitors don't store voltage. They store charge. And they don't "leak voltage" over time due to imperfect conditions. Outside of capacitors used for signal conditioning, the majority of capacitors are used to add local 'temporary' storage capacity close to each IC's power rail so that large spikes in current draw do not pull down the pin (as there is a finite conductance between the pin and the power supply).

It basically filters out voltage spikes by absorbing current spikes.

So saying a capacitor is at the wrong voltage and must be drained to 'fix' a problem is fucking nonsensical. Unless the capacitor is part of a weird active feedback circuit that latched itself to a bad state, it is very unlikely "draining" the capacitor did anything.

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>>59660090
>There is no such thing as "charge". There's voltage, ampacity and resistance. Charge is a very informal term for voltage.

>>59658101
Shit, this reminds me I should drain my capacitors

>>59660090
>There's voltage, ampacity and resistance. Charge is a very informal term for voltage.

There is no such thing as voltage, amapacity and resistance. These are very informal terms for electromagnetic fields and electromagnetic-phonon based scattering.

Your childish grammar suggest I'm wasting my time on you, however.

>>59660197
>>59660205
>Capacitors don't store voltage. They store charge

There is no such thing as charge. That's an improper word for voltage.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leakage_(electronics)
>And they don't "leak voltage" over time due to imperfect conditions
>Another contributor to leakage from a capacitor is from the undesired imperfection of some dielectric materials used in capacitors, also known as dielectric leakage.

There is no such thing as charge in the electrical industry. Consult an OHM's law chart.

>>59658101
Not really. You should have been able to clone your hard drive onto a ssd it would have costed you $60 instead of $295. But you probably lack the knowledge or multi-meter to check capacitors. If you had a blow capacitor it would have probably prevented you from cloning you system in the first place.

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>>59660247
>There is no such thing as charge in the electrical industry.

I mean, this isn't a great troll but it did at least get me to do some Google image searches.

>Ripped?

Rapped.

fix'd.

>>59660247
I'm not even sure you're baiting now. Is it possible that you're that stupid?

>tfw you pay 300 USD for a 240gb ssd

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>>59660247
>There is no such thing as charge in th...

That's weird... this incredibly common circuit methodology in IC design uses voltage-charge...

Hmm...

>>thinking.gif

I know you learned how resistors work from a trade school but some of us here went to the big boy universities Okay?

You are out of your league kid.

Try to explain transmission line reflections in terms of ohm's law you cuck.

Try to explain how base potential modulation in BJT's creates gain with ohm's law you cuck?

"""Electrical Industry"""

Electricians are not engineers.

>tfw forgot to both drain my capacitators AND activate my almonds

send help

>>59660287
>>59660319
It's true. That's just informal usage. Saying it doesn't make you wrong, but correcting proper terms with informal terms isn't true. I'll educate you:

Voltage is the potential
Current is the flow
Resistance is the medium

When you pass voltage through a medium you get your current. How much current you get depends on the resistance of the medium, measured in OHMs. At no point in time, is the word charge the proper use for any of this.

A laptop charger, for example, doesn't pass charge to your battery. It merely supplies DC power. A capacitor holds on to a charge, in that it has been charged with current, but when it dissipates this "charge" it isn't improper to say this is a voltage leak. It isn't improper to say it is a current leak either.

>>59660348
I don't care. I'm talking electrical terms. And engineers making up their own words to deal with things that already have words and saying "no my word is correct!" doesn't interest me. You guys came after us, you use our words or not. But don't correct us.

>>59659808
>retard attempts to fix his own laptop, probably to repaste it
>he loses some screws
>power jack flexes the board enough that one component is intermittently making contact
>I manage to find the problem and fix it
>decide to clean the nasty fucker too
>manage to short the keyboard so some keys don't work
>it's a shittastic disposable with the keyboard fused to the bezel
>I don't get paid because dude is a faggot
He was a brony and even had some brony fanfic open in the browser. He did a shitty job of repasting and even got pissed when I updated the video drivers. Choose your customers carefully.

>>59659863
They just order them as they need them.

>>59660378

You troll for no reason. Everyone knows we are just holograms now.

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>>59660378
>retarded sparky thinks he understands electricity
kek

>diagnosed bad sleep state

>>59659101
That's because you just switched from a HDD to an SSD. That's literally where 100% of your speed gains came from.

For the record my computer goes from off to the home screen in about two seconds, as should any with the operating system installed on a modern SSD.

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>>59660378
>I'll educate you

Son, you just stepped into the wrong neighborhood.

But seriously, you sound like you got through the first third of an EE101 class and then gave up.

>diagnosed unupdated firefox
>cloned the hard drive to a new HDD
>updated firefox

>>59660470
Bu..Bu...But my.. my .. maih ohms law!!!

>>59660450
Yeah, retarded sparky who makes more than you without having student debt loans. Go draw with your crayons limp-wrist.

>>59660470
That's not an argument. Saying charge is more correct than terms like voltage and ampacity is flat out wrong. I say I'm charging shit all the time, but if someone were to autistically describe the process they're doing in proper terms, I wouldn't say "no you're wrong!". That's what engineers do I gather?

>>59660492
I make 125K a year and I am not even out of school yet. I work 5 hours a day on average.

This is also how car mechanics earn their money.

>>59660505
Yeh and I make 200k a year on my first day on the job 4 hours a day.

>>59660492
>student debts
>implying I live in fatfuckistan
too stupid to go to college and learn engineering, sparky boy?

>>59660525
Not sure how it works in Europe, but we make more than EE's over here.

EEs usually make like 80k in the city, unless they're brilliant and lucky, a union inside wireman will pull 80k even in the middle of nowhere. I'm about 100 miles from San Francisco where they make 65/h + benefits and pension. No student loans.

>>59660525
I am an American and went to a public university for my undergrad. Zero loans because my parents actually planned for college.

Sparky clearly is a self made man. He taught himself how to read ohm's law charts and everything!

I bet he even built a radio kit once.

We should elect him President.

>>59660159

Wrong. Voltage means that there's a difference of potential between two points, while charge depends on the amount of electrons. You can calculate how many electrons would fit in the plates of the capacitor and their charge, and that's independent of whether if there's a difference of potential in relation to some other place in a circuit or not. Kill yourself.

>>59660142
I would like to see these 6 18650 batteries that are cheaper than 50€ SSD. Thanks.

>>59660549
>being this mad your fucking college books explained things to you like a toddler

>>59660564
http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/111780246704?lpid=82&chn=ps&ul_noapp=true

Literally googled. Not sure if that's what you're looking for though.

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>>59660225

>>59658101
How could they clone the drive if it was bad?

>>59660551
Wrong. Many elementary particles have charge and the amount of charge stored in a capacitor is directly proportional to the potential difference... err voltage across the plates. Kill yourself.

>>59660602
Who says it was bad? Maybe it was just slower than the SSD.

>>59660581
>implying my college professors didn't teach from a set of lecture notes

One of them invented the modern ADC - but you don't really understand what that means. (Hint: It uses a charge based circuit!)

>>59660603
When you say amount of charge stored in a capacitor do you even know what you're fucking saying?? Do you think charge is some magical term for electricity that can't be describe in some other fucking fashion?

This whole charge vs. voltage/current/whatever shit is just semantics from people with different word preferences. Literally sparky vs. engineer.

>>59660090
>There's voltage, ampacity

What?

Is there also no temperature or wind, only Fahrenheitage and Beauforticity?

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>>59660492

WE WARNED YOU

>>59660644
I agree with you. The point was people corrected my word choice with a different word choice.

If I said: temperature is a measurement of heat.

It's true. And so is saying heat is the "how fast atoms are moving". That's also true. But if I say "The temperature is rising because the atoms around me are moving faster" and someone yells "No it's because it's getting hotter"... Fuck that person in the ass.

>>59660640
No. I am saying that Q=CV doesn't require Q to be solely electrons.

Plasmas for example have both negative and positive ions that form currents. You can find the capacitance between clouds of ions if you wanted by deriving the capacitive relationship from Maxwell's equations.

This might be hard for you and sparky to grok because both of you seem to lack any charge based neural activity...

>>59660640
>This whole charge vs. voltage/current/whatever shit is just semantics from people with different word preferences. Literally sparky vs. engineer.

Let's say you have two capacitors that are rated for a maximum of 10V and 1A. One capacitor is specified to have a capacitance of 10uF and the other is 100uF.

You apply 5VDC across their terminals and wait for them to reach a steady state.

Both capacitors are now at 5V and can attain the same current (A) when attached to a load.

What unit would you use to quantify the difference between the capacitors in this state?

(Hint: the answer is charge, the unit is coulomb.)

If you didn't have any capabilities to clone the drive yourself, than you probably had no other choice.

I bet all he did was pull the bad drive, throw it in a dock with the good replacement drive, and clone the old onto the new, give you the new with your computer back.

I highly doubt anything he said about voltages and capacitors actually happened. especially to "diagnose the slow drive"

he just cloned your drive onto an ssd and gave it back because it was pretty much guaranteed to be faster than what you had

btw a sata dock that can clone drives costs like 20 bucks max

>>59658160
No you're not. $85 an hour is low. Hell, mechanics typically bill at that rate or higher. I work at an MSP and we bill $150 per hour. I take around $40 per hour gross from that.

>>59660776
Listen, when talking in electrical terms: Current is the flow of electrons. It's not the flow of plasma. If you're talking about rivers, current is a flow of water. Saying I'm wrong for my electrical term usage because it could mean something else in a different usage is just plain dumb.

>>59660815
Nobody cares engineer. Charge is a made up word. Electricity is the flow of electrons, not the flow of "charges". If anything, a capacitor dissipating electrons should be called a current leak really. Saying it dissipates charge is correct informally, or perhaps to your professor, but seeing how charge doesn't have a formal definition in my field I'll tell you to fuck off. It's a current leak.

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>>59660859
>charge doesn't have a formal definition in my field

Maybe someday you'll do more than scratch the surface :)

Good luck in your journey!

>>59660859
>Literally Can't Even

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>>59660899
>>59660901
Not an argument. Go argue semantics somewhere else you little virgins.

>>59658661
Who the fuck cares? Honestly go back to redd!t you freshman faggot. Cause like what, your daddy complimented you on your computer skills when you knew how to torrent his favorite movie? You thought you were cool because you put together a computer when you were 14? Wow dude, I bet all your siblings came to you for help when it came to building lego. Oh and don't even get me started on how mature you must have felt as a kid when you posted on forums pandering to unhygienic men on welfare. Christ, I bet you even looked up some programming tutorials while in highschool; must have felt like a real champ with that pirated version of visual studio open along with your first hello world program typed up inside. I bet everyone thought you were real smart, so it's odd about how mediocre your grades were; must be the system that's broken and that grades aren't important in the real world. But hey, somehow you managed to get into college! What's this? You know how to use vim now? Wow you're so cool, knowing how to type stuff into that terminal thing like hackers do. Man I wish I were like you! I bet you even have some snarky comment stowed away in your artillery ready to be used whenever a prominent figure in tech is mentioned. Oh you heard the name Stallman? You say he hasn't done anything relevant since emacs and then quote that interjection you read on /g/? Haha, you're so witty! What's this now? You even attended one of his seminars but don't remember anything he said but have an sd card filled with his pics you've taken? You're an absolute madman haha! It's okay, I bet he didn't say anything interesting anyway, it's not like you don't understand it. He's just an extremist lol! Oh man you're so good at tech! I wish I were so cool like you.
Go strangle yourself with a cat5 you faggot.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leakage_(electronics)
>In electronics, leakage may refer to a gradual loss of energy from a charged capacitor.
Energy is the form of electrons. What do you call a flow of electrons? Not charge. A flow of electrons is electricity and when electricity passes through a medium what is it called? Current! So it's a current leak, right?

>It is a result of the dielectric material not being a perfect insulator and having some non-zero conductivity, allowing a leakage current to flow, slowly discharging the capacitor
Yes, it is a current leak! The insulator is imperfect, like I said earlier, and thus it leaks current! It doesn't leak charge you complete fucking idiots and it doesn't dissipate charge either according to this article.

>b-b-but Wikipedia!

Thank god for citations, huh?


http://www.electronics-tutorials.
ws/capacitor/cap_3.html
>4. Leakage Current

>The dielectric used inside the capacitor to separate the conductive plates is not a perfect insulator resulting in a very small current flowing or “leaking”

How many sources can I find?

http://jeelabs
org/2012/04/07/trying-to-measure-capacitor-leakage/
>Capacitors have a “leakage current”, i.e. when you charge them up fully, the leakage current will cause them to slowly lose that charge.

Why can't I hold all these citations? Fuck off and LARP as a professional somewhere else you retarded cunts. Never question an actual professional:

>>59660901
>>59660899
>>59660815
>>59660776

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>>59661033
>Never question an actual professional

You sound upset.

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>>59661132
>get completely and utterly btfo
>y-you sound upset

Im so confused on what is going on here...
Why can't I just get help discharging my capacitors?

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>>59661157
Yeah. I'm really broken up that you can't understand words and get super angry in your confusion. Please be nicer next time :(

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>>59661194
>y-you're still wrong despite having multiple sources that say my opinion is wrong
Could have said from the start you're a fedora tipping "I must always be right!" faggot. Thanks for the laughs bud.

>>59659281
Not really, 125 is average, 225/hr is professional grade billing.

t. a DC area consultant

>>59661186
Because charges don't exist any more!

>>59661186
Lick your fingers and touch the pins. Electrons will take the path of least resistance, which is your saliva and won't harm your fingers.

>>59661228
>>59661194
>neither thinks they're wrong
>neither thinks they're a faggot
>on 4chan
you're both faggots. but please, keep arguing for our amusement.

>>59661263
No silly. Your saliva will simply hold on to the charge and dissipate it to your fingers thus electrocuting you.

>>59658101
just 9% taxes? what the fuck

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>>59661228
Why can't you just accept the fact that you "utterly BTFO" an entire profession by refusing to understand a word and move on? Why do you have to keep bullying me? :(

>>59661275
It's true, I'm an utterly wrong faggot on 4chan.

I must admit though it's pretty entertaining he went through the effort of trying to find and post sources trying to prove that this doesn't exist: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_charge
And so angry about it!

>>59661275
Nah. I'm factually correct.

http://www.murata.com/en-us/support/faqs/products/capacitor/mlcc/char/0003
>The insulation resistance of a monolithic ceramic capacitor represents the ratio between the applied voltage and the leakage current
>leakage current

>Leakage current is a constant current flowing after a certain period of time when the influence of absorption current diminishes.

It's literally a current leak. Anyone who says the correct term is "charge dissipating" is speaking in normie terms and shouldn't correct educational/industrial ones.

>>59661194
Like this guy.

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>>59661322
Minnesota sales tax rate is 6.875% to 8.375% depending on the county you're in. But not all services are taxable and there is no tax on clothing

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>>59661367
damn USA

>>59661356
From your own source:

>The most common charge carriers are the positively charged proton and the negatively charged electron. The movement of any of these charged particles constitutes an electric current.

>At the opposite extreme, if one looks at the microscopic situation, one sees there are many ways of carrying an electric current, including: a flow of electrons; a flow of electron "holes" that act like positive particles; and both negative and positive particles (ions or other charged particles) flowing in opposite directions in an electrolytic solution or a plasma.

>The total electric charge of an isolated system remains constant regardless of changes within the system itself. This law is inherent to all processes known to physics and can be derived in a local form from gauge invariance of the wave function. The conservation of charge results in the charge-current continuity equation.

loving every laugh

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>>59658261
He turned off the power and charged him $85 for doing so

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>>59661413
Look, it's simple. The concept of electric charge only exists if you believe in it. Do you believe?

Maybe the true charge is the friends we made along the way.

Also, bonus points to you for thinking I'm actually reading anything I'm posting.

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>unplugged battery
>held the power button
>installed an SSD
>???
>$300 please

>>59661423
You have to turn the power switch in the back off and hit the power button again to fully drain them though.

>>59661452
>bonus points to you for thinking I'm actually reading anything I'm posting.
Believe me, buddy, I never thought you were capable of reading any of that stuff. Go log off and play with your legos now. You're dismissed.

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>>59661469
>computer slow
>hdd 5 years old
>take it to repair shop
>he turns it off
>puts in a ssd
>wow it runs so fast now!

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>>59661498
Yay! Maybe someday I'll be able to sit at the cool kids table! But who needs that when you have these sweet-ass legos?

>>59661572
Do you read the text of your posts as well?

I mean not to be pedantic.

>>59658221
He's meming you mate, SSDs don't have disks.

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>>59661729

>>59661981
I feel like three people are responding to you. Just to make you feel better.

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>>59662002
OH FUCK

I mean... ksldjflkashfokewhfioawehfoiewhioweyfaokewhfodsfawefwefew

>>59662002
It's at least two. >>59661670 wasn't me.

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>>59660859
>Charge is a made up wo-
This is literally physics, retard

>>59662822
Nobody cares engineer. Go play with your crayons.

>>59658160
I work in a shop like this. I make $11/hour. We charge $75

>>59662870
You've literally been proven wrong here: >>59661413, >>59661364 and >>59661033 and now your only defense is to take my words out of context and apply then to a different application completely. Of course charge isn't actually a made up word. It's in the dictionary and has an actual meaning. But a current leakage isn't defined as a "charge leakage". That's a made up phrase. Maybe I should have said phrase to please you, pedantic fuck.

>>59662918
meant for:
>>59662822

>>59662870
>>59662918
Is... is he arguing with himself now?

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>>59662938
>s-samefag!
End your life.

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>>59662998

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>>59658880
>>59658981
>>59658880
>>59660073

Fuck off retard

>>59660090
>You can hibernate it but not sleep it?
just in case youre confusing what hibernate is:
its a complete shutting off, but the RAM state is saved to disk.
you can remove the battery, disassemble the computer...

>If you aren't going to use your laptop for so long that it would die in sleep mode,
>Then plug it in you tool
if battery is getting low and you cant recharge, you always save your work ofc

if youre going AFK at friday night to only continue work on sunday morning, youre not sure the battery can hold, would you sleep it and plug? that would leave battery 100% for 3 days, no good; so you either shut off or hibernate.

by whats the point of shutting off instead of hibernating, just to have to open all the programs, docs, browser tabs, and scroll positions you were working with?

hibernate is not slow as powering on like other anon said, its just the same 3~10s to bootloader, then its as much it takes to read your used RAM from disk (say 2GB at 120MB/s) +8s, depending on your configs a fresh OS initialization could take a minute,

so youre too autistic to wait 20s once per day in the morning to start using your computer, or 1 minute if shutoff, so you leave it sleeping every night, every weekend, when its stored inside your airport briefcase, accumulating heat while surrounded in cloth, i seriously dont get your reasoning.

i even go as far as to take power cord off a while before i finish using for the day, so when i AFK its hibernating at around 40-70, so that it does spend 10h at 95-100% every fucking day for 4 years, 4y old battery still lasts with 60% hours it did brand new

in fact, when at home i plug it thru my lead battery nobreak, and remove laptop battery at 50% so it doesnt become

a new original battery would probably cost about the same as the nobreak, but i would have switched lithium batteries twice by now, and i can use the no break as protection for the desktop as well, since its a weak lead battery just to avoid power cuts

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>manually drained capacitor

>>59663035
hello r3ddit

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>>59659317
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>59663940
>that would leave battery 100% for 3 days, no good
Why?

> i seriously dont get your reasoning.
This is about SSD wellness, not waiting.

>>59658101

Absolutely. I lol'd at the note being listed as a $0 item. Like as if they would actually charge for that too, but they're "cutting you a break"

>>59658101
hahahahahahahaha

>>59660850
This
I was billing 99 an HR and making 35

>>59660850
American wages are so overblown.
Thanks god I can fix pretty much everything myself, or have friends that can do something for me in exchange for computer services.

>>59658122
What are you talking about dipshit.

>>59658101
Only $85 sounds about right for that level of work. I don't know why they fiddled with the caps though.

My repair rates are $75 for the first hour and $25 for each subsequent hour of work performed. No charge for a 15 minute fix.

>>59664192
It takes about half an hour to fix that shit so your grand total comes to about 40 bucks. 40 bucks to repair your dumb ass cracking the screen is more than fair.

>Manually drained capacitor

>>59658101
You paid $300 for some cuck to install a $12 HDD for you? Get the fuck off /g/.

>>59658881
>capacitors store voltage
you should probably finish school before posting

>>59664489
You should probably drink some bleach, shit for brains.

>>59664489
Yeah, they store "charge", right? kek

Voltage is just the potential between the points. Negative to positive. If you touch a capacitor, the voltage will "push" the current through your skin and give your dumb ass a nice shock.

>>59664511
Capacitors store charge on either plate kek

>>59664557
yes they do store charge kek, that's literally how they work, charge on two separated plates

>>59664558
>Capacitors store charge
kekekekekekeekek

/g/ should just stick to software. The money you guys start blurting about hardware you make asses of yourselves.

>>59658344
Eh, some capacitors can hold charge for quite a long time, especially if the circuit is designed in such a way that it cannot be drained by components when power is removed.
It's part of the reason why they say not to open PSUs or CRT monitors even after they are unplugged.

However a laptop doesn't have such big capacitors inside it and they're all going to be system voltages from around 20v down to 1.5v.


It looks like he just wanted to write more stuff to justify the two hour work time to replace a drive.

>>59664598
Voltage isn't real, friendo, it's a measure of energy per unit charge

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor
>A capacitor is a passive two-terminal electrical component that stores electrical energy in an electric field

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_energy
>This energy is supplied by the combination of electric current and electric potential that is delivered by the circuit.

Current = Amps
Potential = Volts

In order for there to be current, the voltage must pass through a medium.

>>59664638
>voltage isn't real
Okay dumb ass.

>>59658608
>If you consider a second or two slow, then OK.
If capacitors lost their charge in a second or two then they would be useless. The whole point of them is to hold charge. Not forever, but even your batteries will discharge over time if they aren't used.

It's hugely reliant on the circuit design, if the power will be drained by components after the power source is disconnected. Most circuits aren't designed in such a way because components, like computer chips, can do funny things if power unexpectedly drops, so they stop drawing power before the power source is removed. You'll mostly only find the discharge resistors on larger capacitors for mains power sources.

>>59659505
>1) If there was actually a capacitor at an incorrect voltage then something else had to be wrong to get that capacitor to the point where it was
Yeah, incorrect voltage on a capacitor would mean incorrect voltage on the circuit the capacitor is on which would mean every component on that circuit would be receiving the incorrect voltage.

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>>59664643

>Charges are made u...

""The first principle is that you must not fool yourself — and you are the easiest person to fool.""
- A guy who 'came after'

>>59664685
>hold charge
Got this keeps triggering me. Capacitors store energy.

Capacitor: "a passive two-terminal electrical component used to store electrical energy temporarily in an electric field."

>>59664781
Look. Many things can be explained using different words.
Don't get so triggered.

>>59664771
cou·lomb
ˈko͞oˌläm,ˈko͞oˌlōm/Submit
nounPHYSICS
the SI unit of electric charge, equal to the quantity of electricity conveyed in one second by a current of one ampere.

Last time I checked "holding a charge" doesn't mean sending current dumb ass. You're wrong. Just fuck off.

>>59664643
Voltage is a unit, a measurement of things that actually exist, charge and energy

You know, that famous identity V = E / Q

And potential is actually energy, but for most applications involving electricity it is more convenient to work in terms of voltage instead of having to understand charge, and the behaviour of electric fields

And how did it make it all the way to Wikipedia and forget to even read the article, capacitors store charge on one plate and an opposing charge which forms on the other, with an electric field between them, voltage is a measurement of the potential energy across the field

Saying a capacitor stores voltage is like saying a lake stores gallons

>>59664872
It is more like specifying the depth of the lake. The number of charges in the lake would be the gallons. The overall capacity would be the number of gallons per meter (of depth).

>>59664872
And saying a capacitor stores charge is like saying a lake stores liquid.

If you're going to correct someone pedantically, do it right. It stores electrical energy. And like the other guy saying "it doesn't leak voltage it leaks charge". Be correct when you correct someone else. It leaks current.

>only I can be pedantic!
Seriously stop this shit. Stop correcting people needlessly when you know what they meant, especially when your correction isn't completely correct either.

>>59658362
>>59660850
>>59662908
Where the hell does all the money go?

>>59664984
Real estate. Overhead (hourly gets paid standing around doing nothing when there's no customers). Utility bills. Owner needs to get paid, too.

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>>59658349
Tfw the company I work for minimum charges $600 just for me to show up on a job site.
I've walked in and out in under 15mins (sometimes doing nothing) and people still get charged full pull.
Apply yourself, establish a decent reputation and you'll make good $.

>>59658101
lmbo @ draining the capacitor.

All caps are drained by design when you power off.

>>59665032
>All caps are drained by design when you power off.
/g/ in a nutshell.

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>>59658165
It's to stop capacitors from drowning in incorrect voltages.

Disabling sleep mode drains your capacitors automatically.

>>59659409
Achkctually, windows does hybrid mode by default. Meaning sleep will also make a ram dump eventually.

>>59659391
The writes are far too tiny to cause any noticeable wear-and-tear. Roughly 1/4 of RAM size (it compresses well) is written on hibernate.

>>59658275
>>59658294
>>59658347

>Add "drained capacitors" to make you look like you did something important.

>>59658101
Bad sleep states
Somehow it's related to a charged capacitor?? Wtf

>>59665119
Curious. Why would you want to regularly write
~10gb a day on a limited write life of the SSD?

It's a small amount, but if you have a SSD for 10 years or so, it adds up (to the tune of 35.6tb for 10gb a day)

>>59665170
I burn through at least 25gb daily because I torrent a fuck ton of blu rays and porn.

>>59665170
Depends on the size of SSD. Most cheapo SSDs are rated for 10k writes, hiend ones for 100k.

Meaning, after you write SSD_Size * 10,000, the SSD is kill.

Why I deem hibernate writes insignificant is that 3Gb of writes is not that much (I have 16GB RAM), when all writes for the day amount to ~50Gb with light usage (casual browsing, compiling stuff and such).

>>59665268
Yeah that's proper use though. Adding 10gb to that for no reason just seems like a waste.

>>59658275
Draining a capacitor is very rarely a repair solution itself; whatever caused the high voltage itself is the problem. So yeah, the OP has been ripped off.

>>59659401
>incorrect voltages on a capacitor
>manually drained capacitor

That's total bullshit.

Do you guys not regularly check your MOBO's capacitors? Fuck no wonder this board is so shit lately.

>>59665292
It reduces lifespan, but only slightly. If you want to significantly extend life of your SSD, disable browser caches, disable automatic updates, disable windows logging, put temp folder on ramdisk ...

That said, it makes a bit of sense to disable it if your laptop is connected to AC power. If its on battery, hibernate is crucial.

>>59660859
>but seeing how charge doesn't have a formal definition in my field I'll tell you to fuck off.

Well in electronics, charge DOES have a formal definition.

>>59665359
Yeah and it doesn't mean what you faggots keep saying it means so fuck off and stop responding.

source or gtfo

>>59665354
eh too much loss of convenience. turning off hibernation doesn't do shit to me since it pretty much stays plugged in 24/7

>>59658101
>In-Store Repair Labor Fee
>quantity 2.0
How can you have 2 of those?

>>59664020
>battery 100% for 3 days, no good
>Why?
lithium batteries lose capacity over time, but its much accelerated by heat and by leaving it at near 0% or near 100%

>>59664020
>This is about SSD wellness, not waiting.
ohh, right, you meant like these two guys here

>>59665170
>It's a small amount, but if you have a SSD for 10 years or so, it adds up
>>59665402
>plugged in 24/7

what about the addedd wear of having it electrified for 10h while youre sleeping/etc?
or if SDD sleep does wear it, what about the addedd wear on everything else for that time (alright probably none), or even the addedd electricity cost, youre sleeping off battery, but those 10% wasted batteries will still convert to an extra 20W/h daily (10% x 10Ah x 19v) daily or what,,, $3/year? in 10y you could buy 1/2 new SSD

and then the extra batt cycles will cost you a new battery earlier for sure

could it not easily financially surpass the slightly earlier loss of a $100 SSD ?

... wait i got it, plug an external usb plate hdd, hybernate to it, plug it into you identical laptop at the office and wake up, hahahah

>>59662908
As do I. I make 10 an hour and we charge 100

>>59667247
I know heat and 0% will do it but I haven't seen sauce on leaving it at 100%.

>what about the addedd wear of having it electrified for 10h while youre sleeping/etc
Again, have seen zero evidence that leaving your laptop is bad for any of its parts.

>electricity costs
Pennies.

> extra 20W/h daily (10% x 10Ah x 19v)
That's not how it works. When it's fully charged it doesn't continue to put in power.


I'm going to ask that you start posting sources for your baseless claims.

>>59658101
>I held in the power button to release static
>I took out the HD and cloned it, bringing over existing software issues
>I changed power settings

Wew, at my shop this would have been £55 labour and the SSD around £70~

We would have backed up files and rebuilt fresh for you.. Lol. You got ripped big time.

>>59658160
I get billed to customers at $150/hr for custom feature implementation and testing.

I sure as shit don't earn $150/hr from it myself though.

>>59658425
haha you got fucking rek'd faggot and can't even come up with with a proper comeback unlike your mom who always has cum coming back outta her ass.

>>59658205
kek

>>59658101
You got Fucked!

>>59658278
I paid for a brand new laptop with quad core LESS

>>59658302
underrated

No.

If you ask others to do work for you, they will charge you for labor.

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>>59658101
You could have just bought a new chromebook or something instead.

I bet they gave you the most garbage SSD they could used from another person's laptop. Bet they will give your "diagnosed slow" hdd to the next sucker who comes in.

>>59667214

2 hours, you tard.

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>>59658101
>>59658122
> Not draining your capacitor

> mfw

>>59658275
My balls needs to be drained, not CAPACITORS in a fucking computer. This is like activated almonds for IT, for fucks' sake.

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>>59658101
quick! someone send this pic to Rossmann.

>>59658101
FUCK me i do this for free because it takes no effort other than waiting for HDD to copy to SSD

>>59669756
He actually got a good price for the work they've done.

>set one windows setting
>put new ssd in
>run clonezilla/fucking anything linux based
>clone disk, resize new partition to fill space
>remove old ssd
done

it'd take about 5 minutes not including the time it spends running by itself cloning the disk (aka, 5 minutes actual work)

>>59658101

The list of shit they did is bullshit but price wise, you weren't ripped off if $85/h is what they told you.

You had a shit 5400RPM laptop drive, the time between the tech getting your PC, cloning that slow ass drive, assemble and paper work would have been over an hour anyway, even 1 hour 3 minutes leads to a 2 hour bill.

You probably got reamed hard on that SSD though, it's probably some $30 chink shit.

>>59669927
man, i want a job where i get paid for the time it takes to clone disks
99% of the time you're not doing anything

>>59658101
I am saving this problem description for my own use.
Decent price but it could be worse.

>>59658101
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>59658101
Yes the computer had absolutelly no hardware problem.

>drained capacitor
If he didn't mean draining the electrolytic fluid in a capacitor then that's just him beefing up the description of what he has done.
He charged you the price of the SSD to change the SSD and change an option in (presumably) windows.

Very much ripped off. But that's what you should expect when you ask for computer repair so perhaps you weren't ripped off as much as you might think. It's just a bad deal to begin with.

>>59658344
Capacitors will hold a charge for 100,000+ years, as long as conditions are optimal.

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>>59658101
>capitalism

>>59658101
pffffft hahahahaha

>>59658275
Capacitors are drained by removing the laptop battery and holding down the power button for 10 seconds

KEK