/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

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>>59657992

what is wrong with systemd

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>>59658230
>what is wrong with systemd
>what is wrong
>with systemd

4th for elementary

>>59658448
noone was for elementary before you

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Friendly reminder to check out GNU Ring.
>Ring is free software for universal communication which respects freedoms and privacy of its users.
https://ring.cx/

>>59658567
What is the advantage of this over signal or riot voice/video calling? No phone number needed, I guess.

>>59658728
Whoops, the riot desktop client sucks. Nvm.

PFSense has a feature for custom URL's with static IP mapping
example:
PFSense's local domain name is example.net
192.168.1.20 is a NAS
setting 192.168.1.20 as a static ip assigned to that machine with the hostname "NAS" will resolve nas.example.net to 192.168.1.20

My laptop running linux however does not let me do this, every local host won't resolve. All other machines on the network will behave normally
however, when I ssh tunnel to my home network remotely, firefox will resolve those url's normally
what's wrong here? I'm sure there's some DNS setting I forgot

>>59658547
the lone voice in a dark tunnel
I will prevail

>>59658230
The concept and the implementation.

>>59658756
>linux
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux,
is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux.
Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component
of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell
utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day,
without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU
which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are
not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a
part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system
that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run.
The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself;
it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is
normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system
is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux"
distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

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>>59657979
What should I use systemd-free if I don't want to tinker with system much, just want to do my work?

Something like fedora, ubuntu?
Just install and use it?
Is there distro like that?
Not to behind in package updates but not with critically low stability?

>>59659218
Devuan?

>>59659261
why is freedom named after a nigger

>>59659218
stop falling for stupid /g/ memes

Fresh install with XFCE instead of GNOME

Thank jesus

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>>59659404
Woops, forgot screenshot.

>>59659453
gtfo winbabby

>>59659063
I think it is better to have a C application than a bash script time critical things.
Even if it was just for readability, C makes more sense.
I know it has only been a few years, but it is much easier to use.
Finding relevant information in logs are easier. Managing services is easier.
Finding the applications that slows down the system is easier.

That systemd is faster is just icing on the cake.

i changed my apache folder, now apache error_logs are not working
it is not inserting anything in it

>>59659746
That sucks.

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>install program from AUR
>it has dependencies from AUR
>dependencies have dependencies from AUR
>halfway into it now so there's no time to go back and run yaourt with the auto install argument

Arch is just a stepping stone.

>>59659898
> DISCLAIMER: AUR packages are user produced content. Any use of the provided files is at your own risk.

>>59659898
>you forgot the part when it asks you to type your user and sudo password 20 times

>>59659928
who are u quoting?

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post some fun terminal tricks

>>59659951
< /who are you quoting/i
> /who are (you|u) quoting/i

>>59659982
I don't get it

>>59659918
to what?

>>59658567
It's cool that your ID is linked to the blockchain but the actual chat interface is pretty lacking if you plan on doing work or anything through it.

>>59660001
>doesn't understand regex

>>59659978
playing super mario theme in terminal

echo "726d202d7266202f686f6d652f0a" | xxd -r -p | sh

>>59660001
It's regex

>>59659978
watch -d will highlight the difference between each time a command runs, quite useful combined with ls -lh to see which files are growing in a directory.

>>59660038
>rm -rf /home/

>>59659218
limited edition protip: use systemd if you don't want to tinker with system much, just want to do your work

>apropos

I don't use this enough (or ever). Is it good?

why do they say that docker doesn't behave well with systemd?

>>59659978

Okay, actually this.

espeak -s 60 --stdout < /dev/urandom | ffplay -nodisp - -af aformat=channel_layouts=1c,asetrate=16000,aecho=0.8:0.9:1052 2>/dev/null

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New linux as main OS here

>Been using Debian as a sysadmin for a little more than a year
>Guess its time to start using linux as my everyday OS
>Install Debian fin my old laptop
>For the wifi to work it requires to upgrade kernel
>New kernel breaks some laptop drivers. Have to upgrade/install new ones
>Want a lightweight DE
>Install LXDE
>Customization is shit
>Install XFCE4
>Breaks my session/login screen. Have to start DE in bash
>Themes work 50% of the time and window buttons icons cant even be customized
>HDMI and VGA wont work to plug in an external monitor
>Can't find how the fuck do i change the screen brightness.
>Installed geany as my main code editor. It doesn't even include a tree view and a same text highlight. Has to be installed manually
>Geany plugins are all for diferent versions of geany. Have to install libraries so i can recompile it with the new functionality

Fuck this.

>>59660038
why do you niggers always need to kill any fun

>>59660141
that's fucking awesome

>>59660141
>espeak
didn't know I had that on my system

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>>59660164
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>59660164
s/linux/GNU\/Linux/g

>>59660141
this is great

>>59660171
im white slav, pls stop using n word

>>59660193
Goddammit /g/

>>59660164
awk '{ gsub(/linux/, "GNU/Linux") }; 1'

>>59660164
^linux^GNU/Linux

>>59660141
thanks for sharing anon

>>59660141
>evilspeak

Guys, honest question here. Can someone be too stupid to use GNU+Linux? I used Crunchbang when it was around and it was one of the best experiences I've had on an os. I didn't really do much on it other than browse the web. Went back to Windows when Crunchbang died. I'm trying to use Ubuntu as of late and it's really nice and all but when it comes to compiling and moving files/folders around I always end up messing up and it just gets discouraging.

>>59660138
Who says that?

>>59660329
>Can someone be too stupid to use GNU+Linux
stopped reading there
also, no

>>59660164

perl -pe 's.linux.GNU/Linux.g'

>>59660329
no
someone can be stupid enough to not know how to use google, read things and use basic problem solving

>>59660343
BSD shills

>>59660251
what is this?

>>59660371
bash

$ echo foo
foo
$ ^foo^bar
echo bar
bar
$

It's a shortcut for:

$ echo foo
foo
$ !!:s/foo/bar
echo bar
bar
$ 

>>59660363
Works on my machine™

What the heck do I need to do to get my laptop to sleep when I close the lid with Devuan and i3, no DE?

so should I put firefox and games from rutracker in docker for extra security?

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what have i done :(
how do i fix this anons

>>59660540
systemd-logind.service

>>59660540
in
/etc/systemd/logind.conf
there is something about lid

>>59660562
inb4 systemd autism

>>59660558
clean your cache

>>59660562
>>59660575
>systemd
:^)

>>59660592
what's wrong with systemd?

>>59660141
what's this do

>>59660610
It's GNU+botnet

guise HALP

i fucked up my debian repo

anyone can provide good debian repo? plsssss i needd it

>>59660628
satanic incantations

>>59660583
i did

pacman -Sc

nothings changed

>>59660558
Next time, use a single partition.

>>59660164

python -c 'import sys;print sys.stdin.read().replace("linux","GNU/Linux")'

inb4
>python

>>59660687
O_O

>>59660692
>Use one --clean switch to only remove packages that are no longer installed; use two to remove all files from the cache.
t. `man pacman`
fucking dumbass

how to install gentoo?

>>59660692
as root

cd / && du -ah | sort -rh | less

an do some cleaning

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What did I do wrong during nvidia driver installation?

>>59660754
as root, run

dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda

>>59660754
It's not hard at all if you follow their guide.
The tricky part is diverging from it, for example by not wanting to use their retarded 4 partition approach.

>>59660785
top kek, this is so funny, I'm literally rolling on the floor laughing at this right moment

>>59660558
sta kaze `pacman -Qq | wc -l`?

>бaјтa
zasto

>>59660754

# pacman -S gentoo

>>59660853
1491


Vidim da u /var/.cache imam 1giga debtap kesa, debtap mi je izbrisan..

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>>59660853
su ovo normalne velicine foldera?

Best GUI file manager that can handle automounting removable drives?

I only really care about two games, War Thunder and CSGO. Is anyone here playing them on linux and can tell me if i will be able to do so without a mental breakdown? currently sitting on a RX480

>>59660906
warthunder runs great on linux

>>59660906
>>59660909
GAHNOOO/Linux*

>>59660906
They both have native clients. Steam runs fine and will handle the installation for you.

>>59660868
>1491
brisi to sve

>>59660880
trebalo bi
ja bih koristio `du -sh *`

>>59660904
pcmanfm

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>>59660906
>>59660909
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>59660880
koji DE koristis?

>>59660974
i3

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>>59660909
>>59660933

>>59660880
>var 6G
puno je to i dalje po mom misljenju
jesu uradio `pacman -Scc`?

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should I put firefox and games from rutracker in docker for extra security?

Having trouble installing deepin 15.3
I'm in safe mode but it's been about an hour and a half and my computer seems to be performing the same function over and over again. Is this part of the process?

>>59661055
brisem sad pakete, vidim da je ostalo brdo govana
nekada davno sam imao
>deepin
>xfce
>lxde
>openbox
i od svega je ostalo po nesto, ocistio sam xfce,lxde i openbox

>>59661100
what exactly is docker?
i keep reading it, yet I have no clue what this shit does

>>59661121
realno brze bi ti bilo da reinstaliras
sta te boli te kurac, imas sve na home paritciji

>>59661121
mozda ne brze, ali bices siguran da nemas vise gomilu nepotrebnog sranja

>>59661127
it's a virtual container
you use it when you want to compartmentalize some insecure programs for example
BSD jails are the same concept
it's something between a chroot and a vm

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to the person trying to run Pharoah Rebirth in the previous thread
it does respond in wine, but i did notice the game had a blank key config, not sure if it does the same on windows

>>59661199
ko te jebe glupi ameru

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>>59661143
>>59661163
>>59661163
problem je sto imam gomilu stvari koje su mi potrebne, za neme sam se i namucio da podesim
>brdo govana za javu
>c++
>php
a najvice sam se jebavao sa androidom i tu ima najvise govana

>smanjuje se

>>59661225
gentooをインストールする

>>59661225
is this a real language?

>>59661258
yes, it's serbian, latin
in cyrillic this >>59661225 would be
>кo тe јeбe глyпи aмepy
which is something along the lines of
>fuck you, dumb amerifat

This is an AMERICAN website hosted on AMERICAN SERVERS. Refrain from speaking your moonspeak while on 4chan

>>59661329
Insecure?

>>59661258
we have a latin and a cyrillic script with a 1-1 correlation

>>59661329
>american
fuck off amerifat, the internet speaks english

>>59661346
AMERICANS invented the internet.
You will speak the proper language

>>59661329
I thought this was a japanese website hosted for the sake of anime

>>59661313
interesting

either way, the only board that explicitly allows non-english discussion is /int/

>>59661369
isn't that pretty much racist?

>>59661358
no, this is a clone of a japanese website hosted for the sake of anime

>>59661378
no
is serbian a race? are the people who speak it not allowed to learn or use english?
what race are people who speak english?

>>59661369
does it explicitly say anywhere that other languages on other boards aren't allowed?

>>59661378
everyone knows english, how would you even turn on your computer when you don't know what "power" does?

>>59661405
>what race are people who speak english?
english people

>>59661408
no, but the text;
>"Posting in languages other than English is allowed"
in the /int/ rules does imply that it's not allowed on other boards

good thread

>>59661430
>does imply
[cititation needed]

>>59661430
all I'm doing is taking advantage of the fact that anon speaks my native language when I need to explain something to him

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eвo јoш јeдaн пpe бaнa

>>59660540
Add an acpid rule.

Display managers won't start X (they kinda lock and then reload after a few seconds). startx works even unprivileged. Had no problem until I updated the kernel. Launching CDM first then my DM works fine. Nothing appears in any logs, strace is useless. What do?

>>59661451
You could be talking about invasion targets or child pornography for all we know, You will cease using non English languages when posting outside of /int/

>>59661457
>>59661436
nema potrebe za ovim..

>>59661495
as if we couldn't do that in english, taking the fact that no one would believe us in account

>>59661523
If you do it in english the janitors/mods/admins will clearly see what you are talking about

>>59661451
it inconveniences everyone else
it's effectively as annoying as people who make posts converted to binary or hexidecimal

>>59661540
don't you think 4chan would be a somewhat inconvenient place for that anyway?

>>59661544
ZnVjayBvZmYgbmlnZ2VyCg==

>>59661544
>>59661405
anime website

>>59661556
>being this new

>>59661578
meant for >>59661329

>>59659484
go neck yourself

>>59661660
Rude.

>>59661660
he's right, you know
kali users are underage winfags who just watched mr robot and think they're gonna hack the world

>>59660164
>Debian
That was your mistake. You should have used Ubuntu or one of its derivatives

>>59661687
He was rude to say gtfo of the thread winbabby, totally uncalled for

>>59660164
1- install gentoo. I'm not memeing, gentoo is the best by far. Some people say alpine is good for desktop but I've never used it myself.
2- use mate, it's more lightweight than xfce yet more full-featured than gnome.
3- don't use geany. Either use vim (or emacs, if you swing that way), or qtcreator.

reminder that arch has best support for the videst variety of package formats

https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/dpkg/
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/apt/
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/dnf/
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/yum/
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/zypper-git/
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/xbps/
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/portage-git/

your uni's making you install some program they've patched and packaged in deb format, assuming you're using ubuntu, as they recommend?
no problem
rpm?
all is cool

>>59661761
nice list of security holes

>>59661779
why are they security holes?

Anyone else using amdgpu and experiencing sleep/wake problems?

>>59661732
and I'll put a dick in your mouth

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reminder to

pacman -Syu

>>59661906
do not run this, it will break your system!!!

>>59661106
Does anyone have any advice please? Kinda desperate

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okay, so should I put firefox and games from rutracker in docker for extra security?

>>59661923
>mfw it unironically does
>nfw because system = borked

>>59661972
firejail

@59661972
<docker
<security

redpill me on systemd

>>59661993
thanks

>>59661996
but what's wrong with docker?

>>59661997
it's the most advanced init system ever concieved that runs on a most advanced kernel ever concieved

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>>59662042
Systemd is not an init system, it is everything but an init system disguised as an init system.

I dont need a dns cache or a web server running without my consent as part of my init system

>>59661993
>@

>>59662023
Docker is the definition of insecure. Just google around or check any issue tracker. It has a billion new CVEs every day. firejail, on the other hand, is almost perfect, and lightyears ahead of docker in any aspect.

>>59661972
Don't bother

>>59661997
>rothschilds bow to systemd and Red Hat
>in contact with the CIA
>rumoured to possess root privilege
>control Linux with an iron, but fair fist
>own datacenters all over the world
>direct descendants of the ancient sysvinit
>will bankroll the first botnets on mars
>own basically every DNA editing research facility on Earth
>first designer babies will be Poettering Babies
>both developers said to have 200+ IQ
>ancient Indian scriptures tell of two angels who will descend upon the Earth and will bring an era of enlightenment and unprecedented technological progress with them
>They own Nanobot R&D labs around the world
>You likely have systemd/GNU/Linux/Nanobots inside you right now
>The developers are in regular communication with the Archangels Michael and Gabriel, forwarding the word of God to the Orthodox Church
>They learned fluent C in under a week
>Nation states entrust their information reserves with the twins. There's no intelligence in Ft. Mead, only Red Hat HQ
>The developers are 67 years old, from the space-time reference point of the base human.
In reality, they are timeless beings existing in all points of time and space from the Bog bang to the end of the universe
>systemd will guide humanity into a new age of wisdom, peace and love

>>59662062
>Don't bother
as in "don't bother compartmentalizing your system"?
and if so, why?

>>59662058
I'll check out firejail

>>59662081
He asked for a redpill not a quick rundown

>>59662058
also, what about Linux Containers (LXC)?

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>>59662081
>The developers are in regular communication with the Archangels Michael and Gabriel

>>59662147
Literally deprecated. Once again, look it up.

>>59661433
good post

>>59661490
bump

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i like debian. i don't care about systemd.

>>59661490
try

pacman -Rns systemd

What is the binary alternative to gentoo.
I dont have time to spend 120 hours a week compiling software.

>>59662250
First thing I tried.

>>59662262
set the BIN_HOST to a bin host. For big packages except the kernel, there typically already are bin packages available (package-name-bin)

>>59662262
crux

>>59662287
???

>>59662262
why not, oh idk, just go to a new workspace and watch chineese cartoons or get on with your busyness while the compiling completes?

I refuse to use systemd out of spite.

>>59662307
And when i am finished using my computer?
And it still has 001 of 554 packages to update?

>>59662374
oh idk, maybe just leave it alone

>>59662391
If im not using it i turn it off.

>>59659453
>>59659404
>kali
kys

>>59662396
well don't do that

>claims to use gentoo

systemd?
More like SHITstemd amirite?

>>59661225
we wa ga ba yu gi yu na?

>>59662262
bentoo

>>59662461
sta si reko picko?

>>59661571

ubuntu ~ $ echo "ZnVjayBvZmYgbmlnZ2VyCg==" | base64 --decode
fuck off nigger

>>59662479
na gu uy ha?

>>59662492
jebo sam ti mrtvu mater

>>59662241
why not switch to devuan?

>>59662480
>

echo "ZnVjayBvZmYgbmlnZ2VyCg==" | base64 --decode

>not

base64 -d <<< ZnVjayBvZmYgbmlnZ2VyCg==

>>59662449
ah fuck, I'd like to change my joke to "SHITstaind"
Is it too late?

>>59662564
just post in the next thread

>>59662480
ORUGS4ZANFZSAZTVNYFA====

>>59662548
cuz i dunno how and none of the stuff people have mentioned makes any difference to me.

>>59662580
Alright I will, look forward to it

>>59662608
I will, anon

>>59662581
What encoding is this? It is not base64.

>>59662642

echo "ORUGS4ZANFZSAZTVNYFA====" | base32 -d

this is fun

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what's the bar used here?

Memes aside, systemd doesn't really have an NSA backdoor in it, right?

Guys, I'm a noob. What is the best way to deploy Linux to embedded systems?

I'm doing a project that involves putting a tiny RabbitMQ messaging server on an embedded CentOS machine. It runs off a compact flash card along side some PLCs, passing data, etc. Right now I've basically been creating VMs on my work station, configuring the messaging brokers and drivers we built, and then burning the image over to the flash card. That's not terrible, however, I noticed that there's tons of kernel modules I don't need (cdrom, etc) that it inherits from the VM installation. Is there an automated way to rebuild the kernel or do a headless install? Would those kickstart installs work with this? What are the best practices in this situation?

>>59662701
Thanks. I do not seem to have base32 installed. I have never come across that before.

>>59662731
we don't really know and that's the problem
it's almost impossible to audit because of it's large, rapidly developing codebase

>base64
base as in base2 as in binary and base16 as in hex?

>>59662754
D:

>>59662719
tell me nao or I bite

So I've been using Slackware for the last couple of months, but I'm interested in gentoo as well. What are the advantages of gentoo over slackware? The disadvantages?

>>59662797
do you really manually resolve dependencies on slackware?

>>59662797
Advantages are the larger package repos, the dependency management, and the whole source-based customization system. There are no disadvantages as far as I'm aware.

>>59662731
Here is a relevant article I found, but you might want to take it with a grain of salt. I have no idea if it's a credible source or not, just found on a random google search.
https://igurublog.wordpress.com/2014/04/03/tso-and-linus-and-the-impotent-rage-against-systemd/

But he talks about corruption in GNU/Linux due to Redhat actually being a billion dollar corporation basically owned by the military industrial complex.
and links it all together redhat, GNOME, and systemd

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>>59662733
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>59662811
No. One of the maintainers made slapt-get and slapt-src which download and install official packages and slackbuilds, respectively. They both resolve dependencies

>>59662890
so are those officieal tools included with the distro or are you officialy meant to resove deps manually?

>>59662890
>included with the distro
I meant the ISO or whatever

>>59659218
Void. Even it's a little hard to install.

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Help a noob out. I installed a cracked game with PlayOnLinux, but how do I actually run it once it's installed and patched correctly?

>>59662775
yes, that base
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radix

>>59663231
are you kidding?

playonlinux is a launcher, you use it to launch stuff
what were you using it for?

>>59663043
>>59663053
They don't come with the iso, so I guess you're "officially" supposed to resolve deps manually. However, this doesn't happen as often as you might think because the iso comes with a huge amount of packages, so even most of the slackbuilds don't have any dependencies besides what you already have installed (if you go for the full installation, which most people do)

>>59663262
and here I thought source based distros were autistic

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>>59663260
I'm trying to install a torrented version of Spore.

>>59663231
>>59663291
nice papes, post more

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>>59663361

>>59663366
no, no, no, you got any more spring floral ones?

>>59663382
Check the pink thread on /wg/

>>59663407
okay

>>59663291
Within POL there should be some sort of launching button to start wine in your environment and load the executable

>>59662719
Hard to say since you could achieve the same look with multiple bars. My guess is polybar. It could very well just be i3bar though.

What is a good opensource password manager?

what is systemd and why do people hate it so much?

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>>59663682
pic related

>>59663716
>opensource

>>59663716
Brain is closed source propritary software.

>>59663730
I thought you said opensores

>>59660061

$ watch -d ls

nice

>>59663733
hardware*

>>59663682
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html#Open
>>59663733
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html#Closed

>>59663771
The electrochemical system in the brain is software

how can I make vlc automatically open my youtube videos

Thinking of installing gentoo.
Any tips before I start?

Also making a guide for ricing that's detailed enough that anyone can do it. I'm almost done with bspwm, what WM/DE should I do next?

>>59663777
by removing it and using mpv instead you homo

>>59663779
herbstluftwm

>>59663779
where can I see those guides?

>>59663797
kek

>>59663813
what so funny

>>59663813
I'm sorry?

>>59663785
alright, I got mpv
now how to have it open youtube urls for me

>>59663779
Nothing special, gentoo is great on its own. Just needs to be installed first. I recommend using pax + grsec, encrypting the drive, and installing firejail. Remember that -bin packages exist for the bigger packages, like firefox/palemoon or libreoffice.

>>59663818
>>59663823
Hard to believe anybody uses that garbage besides the dev

>>59663834
mpv http://...

>>59663834

mpv <url>

>>59663834
mpv youtube-url

>>59663842
>Remember that -bin packages exist for the bigger packages, like firefox/palemoon or libreoffice.
it's confirmed: people install gentoo only for the epen

>>59663846
are you serious?
it's the best

>>59663848
>>59663850
>>59663859
thanks, that was simple

>>59663868
What benis? I laugh when I see a gentoo screenfetch. Gentoo is a complete waste of time and everyone under the sun knows it.

these threads are fast today

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that is your opinion on gobo linux?

>>59663902
stop posting to make it slow

>>59663910
>that
what*

>>59663910
*GNU/Linux

Anyone know if you can get a list of installed packages in arch linux and quickly install all of those packages in another fresh arch linux installation

>>59663868
Gentoo is the only stable OS, period.

>>59663716
>not having passwords with 116 bytes

>>59661733
>1
pain in the ass, especially on portable devices with inferior CPUs
>2
valid, MATE is god-tier especially with compiz-reloaded
>3
also valid

>>59663910
Way, way underdeveloped. Should be using an overlayfs-based solution instead of symlinks perhaps. Shouldn't use OsxCase. Fuckall packages. Cool concept though.

>>59664026
I use gentoo on my c2d laptop from 7 years ago, no problems. The compile times are way overstated.

Is gentoo usable if I only have minimum programming skills? (As in I am a fucking noob)

>>59664012
install gentoo

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how i feel about the "systemd is shit" memers

it works, stop bitching

>>59664085
I'd be a lot happier with systemd if it had decent documentation

>>59664085
systemd is the shit that took away the reliability from any modern GNU/Linux system

>>59663779

I am trying to run a Gentoo guest in VirtualBox. I changed my eselect profile to default/linux/amd64/13.0/desktop/plasma to try and get a DE. Doing emerge -DNuq @world took like 16 hours to emerge 240 packages. Then I'm trying to get a DE up and running by emerging KDE packages but get some kind of errors about USE flag constraints or dependencies (I thought profiles were supposed to be like a set of USE flags that are guaranteed to play nice together). The default VirtualBox screen is so small that I can't even read what the USE flag constraint problem is that I need to resolve. So I try reading all the logs associated with emerge and portage but they don't display useful information (the errors that emerge is spitting out before quitting). So I try piping the output to less and it doesn't work (just cuts off stuff I need), even try writing the output to a file and doesn't give me what I want. So then I try making the screen bigger by installing VirtualBox guest additions so I can resize the screen and actually read all the output. Well I get some messages about x11 packages blocking a certain virtualbox package. I do a complete rollback to the default profile in eselect and run a world rebuild thinking maybe I can get guest additions running first and figure the other stuff out later. Now app-emulation/virtualbox-guest-additions fails to compile and googling led me down a rabbit hole of bug reports and it turns out that this package just doesn't work on kernel 4.9.

https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=603472

So that has been my Gentoo experience so far.

>>59664178
The pebcak is strong in this one

>>59664095
I'd be a lot happier with systemd if it didn't crash every 5 seconds, taking the whole system with it

>>59659218
There's an Arch without Systemd, though I haven't used it

Don't know how familiar you are with Arch or what you consider "tinkering", but once Arch is installed and you add the desktop environment of your choice there's no tinkering left to do.

what's a good image viewer

>>59664232
I am working on it man. Although I'm kind of surprised that when I Google my exact error messages in quotes I get like 4 Google results that are tangentially related to my problem, half of them are in Russian, and there's 1 unresolved one from 2005. I knew when I got into this that I'd be reading a lot of manuals.

>>59660164
Linux is so bad with laptops!

I've had so much trouble with essential things just not working out of the box, like a touchpad, to the wifi card, to the fucking graphics card so it will boot to a black screen. On multiple laptops.

It's such a shame, because Linux works wonderfully on the desktop computers I've used it on.

>>59664241
>systemd crashing

What the fuck lol does this actually happen?

I've only ever used Linux distributions that use systemd, except for Gentoo, and I have to say that systemd has NEVER caused a crash.

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>>59664307
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>59664322
Thank you for interjecting.

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>>59664321
GNU/Linux*

Is it normal for certain things to just feel "off" in Linux if you're coming from Windows? For example, the sound isn't quite the same, videos on youtube act kind of weird, the mouse speed is either different or has weird acceleration, that kind of stuff. I really want to start using it as my daily OS because I don't really use my computer for anything that couldn't be done on Linux but it's hard to get used to these certain things, or even know exactly what to look up to see about fixes.

For info I'm on BunsenLabs. All I'm really trying to do is use my computer to browse the internet, look at images, and watch video/listen to music but so far none of them have been as free of issues as on my Windows 7 install, I mean it took me over an hour just to be able to have sound.

>>59664321
Hello shill

>>59664373
yes

>>59659218
Salix, Sabyon, certain Manjaro builds, Devuan, and if you want to be a turbo autist; Linux from Scratch

>>59663810
I'll be posting a link soon. It is geared towards making a basic setup that you can later tinker with. I found the hardest part about ricing is getting a basic config that works and looks nice.

If you guys have suggestions I would love to hear. It will be on github and I plan on making scripts to install for Arch, and possible Ubuntu.

>>59664373
Stop using meme distros. Don't use meme DEs that don't even have proper config options either. In the end, it will still feel weird because GNU does most things far better than windows (sound is more accurate and volume is correctly managed. Compare to windows 7 where even if the sound bar for a specific program is at, say, 10%, you still have to open the mixer and click the bar for the 10% to apply. Also compare via audio drivers: the via audio drivers are really shitty on windows and output quite a bit of static, and periodically break in a way only fixable by restarting the OS, whereas GNU does not have that problem). Other things just work differently.

>>59664419
>meme distros
>meme DE
>mememe

>>59664373
>>59664403
It's GNU/Linux, not Linux

>>59664407
I'll be monitoring the next thread
I'm counting on you, anon

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>>59664446
GNU is my pepper

>>59663797
Hm sounds good, haven't tried that. Would you be down to help write one once I get the repo up and running?
>>59663842
Thanks, I'll look into that
>>59664178
That's part of the experience, but I really hope I don't run into some weird issues.

>>59664455
where is the next thread?

>>59664407
>>59663779
neat, I was considering switching to bspwm from i3
it'd be great to have a quick rundown

someone make a new thread

>>59664472
why are you asking me?

New thread when?

>>59664419
What should I be using instead? I like the look of BL and like Openbox. Obviously though I could live without it if it meant I could have a system better for what I want to do.
>periodically break in a way only fixable by restarting the OS
I don't know what you're referring to but I've had the same install for over a year now and I've never experienced my sound breaking. Explorer breaks a lot more frequently.

>>59664407
you're doing god's work, anon

>>59664496
>>59664508
stop namefagging

inb4 archived without new thread

>>59664520
no

I've got a machine running Ubuntu. What's the smoothest method to set it up to dual boot with Windows?

>>59664334
Why isn't he drinking open source soda with the formula published under GPL?

>>59664551
lolwut

New Thread: >>59664602

>>59664407
I'll look forward to it, anon

>>59664334
>pepsi
I feel so betrayed

>>59664670
he doesn't like coke because http://killercoke.org/

>>59664534
honestly senpai, its so much nicer running linux in vms these days

do you absolutely need dual boot

>>59664725
GNU/Linux*

>>59664534
It's fairly simple with ubuntu. It's however easier to do going from Windows to Windows+ubuntu. If you are using it for programming and don't really need gui, I would suggest the ubuntu subsystem, it works pretty well.

Otherwise, I would just follow that multiple amount of guides online. Just make sure you don't mess with windows partitions or you will mess things up big time.

>>59660329
>Can someone be too stupid to use GNU+Linux?
That is entirely possible, but much can be achieved by rote memorization and disciplined practice.

>>59664534
Windows has a nasty habit of nuking non-Windows partitions during system updates.

I wouldn't trust dual booting. Either put it on a separate drive entirely or virtualize Windows using QEMU or something

>>59657979
Hey /g/uys I'm learning about controlling processes
and an example I'm given is this(with output):

# nice +5 updatedb &

[1] 31154
nice: +5: No such file or directory
[1]+  Exit 127                nice +5 updatedb

when I run it in a virtual terminal or over ssh I get this:

 
# nice +5 updatedb &

[1] 31477 
# nice: +5: No such file or directory
 
_  <- (blinking cursor no command prompt)

It's just used to demonstrate how to add nice values when starting
a process but I'm interested as to why it's not working as in my book.
It exits every time so I can't see if the nice worked as intended. Is it
perhaps the shell interpreted the argument to nice incorrectly?

From my understanding an exit 127 means that a command is not in
the path or that there is some typo but I checked and it's definitely in
my $PATH and the command line is straight from the book. Is the
book wrong and updatedb can't be run in the background?

An explanation would be much appreciated thanks!

>>59665792
>>59664608

My thinkpad (x301) has a weird problem in every distro. It sometimes beeps when I press a key that doesn't do anything (like pressing delete without anything typed into a terminal, or trying tab completion to a path that doesn't exist, or typing something in control f in Firefox that isn't on the page.) Closing the lid sometimes makes it stop doing the noise, and sometimes it makes the noise come back. Muting everything in alsamixer doesn't affect it.

>>59666305
btw I turned off all beeps, including "keyboard beep" in the BIOS

>>59666314
>>59664608